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Žižek on the Lacanian Real
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Žižek discusses the Lacanian Real as a purely formal category.
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Looking for the real is like looking for the dark with a flashlight.....
The real is the obstacle itself, and the condition of possibility
I now have enough Lacan to understand what zizek is saying here. Prior knowledge as the condition of its own reality, the gateway to the idea and concept discussed.
Ii’s just natural for some concepts to be defined tautologically if they can only be understood by and within a whole network or system of concepts.
Systems require axioms
Lao Tzu in Dao de ching describes Real as sth you cannot describe, you can only find it's manifestations and it's run everything in universe. He was before you.
Lo real para Lacan es buscar a un gato negro con los ojos cerrados en un cuarto obscuro. Es la forma en se presenta el mundo como obstaculo para conocerlo. Pero a la vez, tenemos nada de punto de referencia para poder pasar el obstáculo, sin estar perdidos. Yo creo que lo real para los humanos es la ausencia de lenguaje. Es decir, nada que podamos conocer
Where can we find the full interview?
We’ll upload all the clips eventually
@@ZizekandSoOn Great, thanks!
Did you upload the clip or are you able to indicate the reference or source?
Not well explained, on a pretense that its impossible to explain well. Note the same circular logics.
Couldn't the Real be defined as nature-as-such, nature in itself? IOW the entire realm of "what happens" behind and before and beyond any attempts to symbolize or contextualize it?
It 'could' if it helps you to understand it, but attempting to define the Real (positively) is in and of itself a problem.
Perhaps it would line up with the Hard Problem of Consciousness. Is this why Zizek is so interested in quantum physics?
In some sense that is what the Real is, it is that indefinite background to our experience which exerts a pressure on us. However you fall in the trap of trying to define the real. The idea that there is such a thing as nature-in-itself is but a concept, and as such it isn’t what the Real is (since the real is what isn’t and can’t be symbolized!)
How can you define nature as such, what is that 'as such' and what is 'nature'. Once you start trying to describe or explain or define you are subject to symbolization, you are inherently moving away and away from the real.
psychoanalysis can't conceive of a relation to the Outside