What If The Dinosaurs Hadn't Died Off?

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  • What if dinosaurs have survived the asteroid impact? Could we have seen a shared dino-mammal ecology, or even intelligent dinosaurs?
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    What If The Dinosaurs Hadn't Died Off?
    Episode 452; June 20, 2024
    Written, Narrated & Produced by: Isaac Arthur
    Editors:
    Donagh Broderick
    Jessica Swenson
    Lukas Konecny
    Music Courtesy of Epidemic Sound Epidemic Sound epidemicsound.com/creator
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  • @KevinRoboticsEDU
    @KevinRoboticsEDU Місяць тому +73

    Last winter I visited the Dinosaur Resource Center in Colorado. They told me how most dinosaur species have only ever been identified by their teeth (usually the hardest bones in any animal.) A lot of the skeletons we saw on display were the result of 3D scanning what bones we COULD find to extrapolate the shapes of those missing (i.e. mirroring the left arm to make the right.) Most of their exhibits are at least partially 3D printed, and they sometimes color-code the filament so visitors can identify which pieces weren't unearthed naturally.

    • @mikescholz6429
      @mikescholz6429 Місяць тому +2

      Jurassic Park 3 in 2001 was probably the first time a large number of people were exposed to 3D printing.

    • @nickkorkodylas5005
      @nickkorkodylas5005 9 днів тому

      Vast majority of dino teeth fossil are considered undiagnostic for below subfamily status and therefore labeled as nomina dubia. The number of valid dinos species known only from dental remains can be counted in one had.

  • @michaelporzio7384
    @michaelporzio7384 Місяць тому +174

    What do you call a Dinosaur from Houston? Tyrannosaurus Tex.

    • @skateboardingjesus4006
      @skateboardingjesus4006 Місяць тому +13

      Isaac's joke should have been,
      "What do you call a dinosaur demolition derby"?
      "Tyrannosaurus Wrecks".

    • @sailornaut-2014
      @sailornaut-2014 Місяць тому +11

      What do you call Dinosaur food in Texas?
      Texanosaurus Mex

    • @floridaman4073
      @floridaman4073 Місяць тому +4

      Tex-Rex

    • @wesleyhoward5599
      @wesleyhoward5599 Місяць тому +5

      Someone needs to ask Chat GPT what it would be like if Isaac Arthur went into standup comedy.

    • @morwickchesterham3875
      @morwickchesterham3875 Місяць тому +5

      What do you call a female dino from Lesbos, Greece... who hunts other female dinos, and eats them? A Lesboraptor.

  • @Pasha-dd7te
    @Pasha-dd7te Місяць тому +51

    Surprised, Dinotopia wasn't mentioned.

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 Місяць тому +37

    Harry Harrison wrote an interesting sci-fi series called the "Eden Trilogy" that explores the scenario of the K-T meteor never hitting, and a dinosaur species achieving sentience and advanced technology through chemistry and biology rather than mechanical or electrical. And they have to deal with isolated humans who have only made it to the hunter-gather stage. It is a well thought out "what if" alternate history :)

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Місяць тому +5

      If that's the author of Stainless Steel Rat and Deathworld fame, then I have always called him Garry Garrison and never knew it spelled like that... woops😅

    • @BooksRebound
      @BooksRebound Місяць тому +4

      Oh cool. I was thinking of the K'Chain Che'Malle from Malazan Book of the Fallen. It's an epic fantasy series about the Malazan Empire and it's wars and their effect on the people caught up in them. It's incredible. The best and largest epic fantasy I've ever read (and I've read a lot).
      But the world has 4 founding races: Jaghut, Imass, Assail, and the K'Chain. K'Chain are hyper intelligent dinosaurs that built massive cities and have gravity manipulation magic. They don't feature THAT much in the series cause they were driven nearly to extinction like 300 000yrs ago when they had a civil war between the K'Chain Che'Malle and K'Chain Nahruk, then the survivors got clapped when the Tiste invaded this world due to their own civil war between Mother Dark and Father Light back in their own world.
      If you like epic fantasy and enjoy a challenging read that doesn't spoon feed you every little detail, I highly recommend Malazan. It's like this beautiful puzzle to figure out, and it has the best characters and the most devastating deaths I've read in fiction. If you think the Red Wedding was bad, just you wait lol.

    • @b.g.5869
      @b.g.5869 Місяць тому +1

      Achieving sentience? Do you honestly think dinosaurs lacked sentience? It isn't necessary to have human type intelligence in order to be considered "sentient".
      Sentience simply means possessing some degree of awareness.
      Dinosaurs were vertebrates with brains similar to birds and alligators; it would be absurd to imagine they were not sentient.

    • @ravenlord4
      @ravenlord4 Місяць тому +2

      @@b.g.5869 Thank you PETA, and re-read the ENTIRE sentence. And try context rather than cherry picking next time. Cheers, and have a better day, and throw another steak on the barbie 😄😆😂

    • @BooksRebound
      @BooksRebound Місяць тому

      @@b.g.5869 you know what they meant...

  • @83shaunam
    @83shaunam Місяць тому +9

    My cat usually pays zero attention to the TV, but he watched this video with rapt attention for a solid 20 minutes. Lol

    • @shoutingfactory3694
      @shoutingfactory3694 День тому

      Had he been for a procedure? The one time my cat watched a program with rapt attention, he was high as a kite having recently been sedated for an ultrasound lol

  • @LuDux
    @LuDux Місяць тому +23

    There's this short story: aliens make a stop on moon for minor repairs and in free time zoologists visit Earth where they witness fight between dinosaur and humanoid. They kill dinosaur, spread anti-dinosaur virus and leave.
    But it was dinosaurs shooting movie about evil humanoids

  • @0cujo0
    @0cujo0 Місяць тому +45

    They had a documentary about this - It was called the Flintstones

    • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
      @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Місяць тому +3

      Good content! 😂
      And also Denver the Last Dinosaur.

    • @4Fixerdave
      @4Fixerdave Місяць тому +2

      I think the Flintstones was a documentary about our future. You know, when we de-extinct some dinos and the AI then decides we aren't smart enough to play with technology. Yeah, we're never going to make the Jetsons... no flying cars for us. Nope.

    • @bobinthewest8559
      @bobinthewest8559 Місяць тому +2

      @@4Fixerdave…
      Look at our roads, traffic and accident statistics.
      Do you REALLY want flying cars???

    • @4Fixerdave
      @4Fixerdave Місяць тому +1

      @@bobinthewest8559 Yeah... that's EXACTLY what the AI is going to say. You.... you PEOPLE.... no fly for you. You get pedal power and that's it. ;)
      Sigh... we'll probably be better off.

    • @shawn092182
      @shawn092182 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@4Fixerdave A flying car did exist in the Flintstones. Barney invented one.

  • @kataseiko
    @kataseiko Місяць тому +26

    If you look at birds, larger doesn't always mean more intelligent. If you make a crow bigger, it doesn't automatically become more intelligent. An emu or a nandu is about as tall as we are, and while there's some intelligence in there, they are easily outwitted by crows.

    • @TheWhitefisher
      @TheWhitefisher Місяць тому +2

      If you make a crow bigger you don't get a ratite; you get a bigger corvid, like a raven, which is smarter. You're correct that overall size doesn't correlate with intelligence but your reasoning takes a wrong turn in that comparing two very different groups of birds doesn't mean anything.

  • @andrewstrongman305
    @andrewstrongman305 Місяць тому +6

    The primary reasons no (therapod) dinosaur could have evolved a humanoid body are that they were already bipedal, their shoulders were not adapted for climbing or swinging, and they could not pronate their wrists (required for climbing without claws).

  • @joshuaperry4112
    @joshuaperry4112 Місяць тому +4

    How to you console a hungry T Rex?
    A-pat-asaurus on their back and There-Therapod.

  • @rjoshb
    @rjoshb Місяць тому +7

    As a geologist that likes to S-Post I need to say that this was when flowering plants first started to flourish. I think the dinosaurs all sneezed to death from hay fever.

    • @octoscorpion2506
      @octoscorpion2506 Місяць тому +2

      Most people don't realise how badly allergies can affect you. There were many days of suffering that made me wish I was 💀. I like your hypothesis.

  • @karatekan2182
    @karatekan2182 Місяць тому +14

    The idea that dinosaurs had less advanced thermoregulation than modern mammals is looking increasingly less likely. Numerous dinosaur fossils have been discovered in areas that would have been very close to the poles, which even with the warmer climate would imply the ability to survive extremely harsh winters.
    Additionally, like birds, dinosaur physiology might have even presented advantages in terms of thermoregulation. Air sacs and pneumaticized bones enable birds to have much greater respiratory capacity than mammals, and appear to have been common even in large dinosaurs, like titanosaurs.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Місяць тому

      First of dinosaurs didn't extinct. They literally are birds. Dinosaurs in fact look closer to them then the lizards.

    • @karatekan2182
      @karatekan2182 Місяць тому

      @@TheRezro “Dinosaurs” weren’t birds, birds are descendants of certain dinosaurs.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Місяць тому

      @@karatekan2182 It is literally the same argument like that humans aren't monkeys.

    • @karatekan2182
      @karatekan2182 Місяць тому

      @@TheRezro …We aren’t monkeys, we are apes

    • @formes2388
      @formes2388 Місяць тому +4

      @@TheRezro Humans are NOT monkeys. That is a full stop truth. The last common ancestor for modern humans and monkey's died off some 25 million years ago. The last common ancestor for gorilla's - is something like 15 million years ago, and the last common ancestor for chimps is something like 8 million years ago.
      Humans, ARE categorized as Great Apes, we are NOT monkeys.
      We good with that? Good.
      This being said: While Avian species find ancestry back to that of dinosaurs, they themselves are typically NOT dinosaurs. They are not a fossilized reptile - by nature of still being alive, and largely... not fossilized. They are not outdated, nor obsolete (by fact they are still in existence). More to the point - Dinosaurs typically refer to creatures that existed from ~252 million years ago, to about ~66 million years ago.
      If you want old, still in existence species the list is something like: Horsehow crap, jellyfish and... maybe sharks? In terms of a species - sharks first evolved something like 380-420 million years ago.

  • @TipSheikh
    @TipSheikh Місяць тому +26

    Thank you for all the work you and the team do on videos; i watch them to fall asleep... then three videos later am still awake. I appreciate the thought-provoking entertainment.

  • @Moishe555
    @Moishe555 Місяць тому +3

    Isaac, in a previous episode you mentioned a book by author Nivens called 'Bowl of Heaven' where space faring humans come across a dyson sphere like ship which is inhabited by evolved Dinosaurs which communicate with changing the color of their feathers. This trilogy got me into a whole new world of books. This reminded of that idea, and I want to thank you for giving me food for my imagination.

  • @projectarduino2295
    @projectarduino2295 Місяць тому +7

    T-Rex moon landing would be like: “One big step for a t-Rex, and, uh, a bigger leap for t-Rex kind.”

  • @wanderingron2063
    @wanderingron2063 Місяць тому +50

    Lmao author that was the worst dad joke ever 😂😂😂

  • @mathewdruggan8877
    @mathewdruggan8877 Місяць тому +4

    Boy does this episode bring back some memories Isaac. Many moons when I attended elementary school in Columbus I did my 3rd grade science fair project on the impact hypothesis and connected it with use of nuclear weapons detonated far enough out in sequential "shells" around the earth to deflect them. I ended up getting 2nd place as it was deemed "science fiction" and not actual science ... at the time 😂. The person I lost out 1st place had made a cast with bottle caps all over the cast to allow for someone to poke and prod their mending limb in case they needed to scratch an itch 😒

  • @stoop25
    @stoop25 Місяць тому +28

    They had over 100 million years to get their shit together. They missed their chance.

    • @SomeKindaSpy
      @SomeKindaSpy 18 днів тому

      I know it's a joke, but this isn't how evolution works. There's a difference between needing intelligence to exist and intelligence giving an advantage to survival. Humans ended up getting the former and got "lucky" when our resources ran out early on (from hunting mega fauna and over eating it) and we had to get smarter or go extinct. We lucked out hard in fact when that one perfect mutation got us the brains we needed.

  • @yamsyamsevolution9712
    @yamsyamsevolution9712 Місяць тому +33

    I think it would have been much easier to hack computers if the dinosaurs hadn’t gone extinct. There is no way a Tyrannosaurus rex would have a complicated password with those arms.

    • @lukehahn4489
      @lukehahn4489 Місяць тому +1

      clearly you do not know the Sleestak

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Місяць тому +2

      Dinosaurs literally didn't extinct. They fly outside my window.

  • @roberthofmann8403
    @roberthofmann8403 Місяць тому +8

    I would love to see Gandalf vs Palpatine.

  • @JamieAlice92
    @JamieAlice92 Місяць тому +11

    What do you call a dinosaur that lifts?
    Tyrannosaurus Pecs.

    • @kovi-kovi-viko
      @kovi-kovi-viko Місяць тому

      You see, this is one of those moments where I wish I didn't have nightmares. I should've seen it coming, but now? I'll be getting a face full of muscle in my sleep...

  • @Kura-Kekoa
    @Kura-Kekoa Місяць тому +61

    What do you call a dinosaur accident?
    Not covered by my insurance.

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Місяць тому +3

    Rex probably hunted in groups but I wouldn't necessarily say they were hunting in packs. Based on isotope ratios, T. Rex of different age were going after different kinds of prey. Something that would not make sense if their kids were getting an allowance rather than having their own job.

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Місяць тому +5

    I dare you to tell a cassowary to his face that dinosaurs are extinct!

  • @delveling
    @delveling Місяць тому +2

    The Flintstones was my favourite version of dinos and humans living together :)

  • @aspiratedaloha2946
    @aspiratedaloha2946 Місяць тому +14

    Drinking and snacking

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 Місяць тому +22

    This reminds me of the Silurian hypotesis that was explored in Star Trek: Voyager with the Voths or even the Dinosaurs from Rick and Morty.

    • @jamesanddanielthiel
      @jamesanddanielthiel Місяць тому +1

      that very thing just entered my mind as well.

    • @notmyproblem88
      @notmyproblem88 Місяць тому +8

      then, of course, there were the....Silurians in Doctor Who

    • @Cylle
      @Cylle Місяць тому +3

      I loved that Star Trek episode :)

    • @michealnelsonauthor
      @michealnelsonauthor Місяць тому +3

      …as Issac Said in the episode you didn’t watch?

    • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
      @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Місяць тому +3

      Doctor Who, Start Trek and tons of other sites and movies have explored it. Not to mention graphic novels, novels, short stories and games.
      I wonder why shows never use other clades apart from theropoda dinosaurs.
      What if almost all tetrapods have died off long ago and only one of our non-ancesteal synapsids clade, or extinct early Triassic archosaur out even just amphibians have survived and hundreds of millions years later earth world be totally unrecognizable.
      And we would meet an intelligent species from that alternate Earth? Like a support different and extremely alien (from our POV) Neanderthal Parallax by Sawyer type of situation? Without a real chance to understand the others psychology or language.
      That would be awesome.

  • @meeponinthbit3466
    @meeponinthbit3466 Місяць тому +269

    Click-bait title here... Us nerds all know they evolved into delicious chickens and stuff.

    • @murderedcarrot9684
      @murderedcarrot9684 Місяць тому +17

      A couple of lucky survivors did.

    • @sagethelemur
      @sagethelemur Місяць тому +8

      mmmmm chicken

    • @uncleanunicorn4571
      @uncleanunicorn4571 Місяць тому +5

      Best we can do for a modern t.Rex.

    • @dingo4530
      @dingo4530 Місяць тому +24

      I just realized dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets are kind of an evolution joke

    • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
      @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Місяць тому +4

      And extinct non-avian dinasurs also tasted kinda like chicken and fowl (and somewhat between them and alligators) according to some studies on the taste of various extinct non avian clades.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard Місяць тому +4

    People for the ethical treatment of Dinosaurs protest against the use of Bazookas for Dino-Hunting.
    Or at least they did before a T Rex ate them.

  • @locust334
    @locust334 Місяць тому

    Love this one Isaac, I started here but have learned so much at event horizon. I appreciate both you guys more then you will ever know. Kindest Regards

  • @10aDowningStreet
    @10aDowningStreet Місяць тому +10

    KFC wouldn't exist without dinosaurs and meteors.

    • @cosmictreason2242
      @cosmictreason2242 Місяць тому +1

      This comment is accidentally true but the logic is wrong lol. At face value it's true even though the world is 6000 years old

    • @tomtom7955
      @tomtom7955 Місяць тому

      idk if its true but i always heard kfc made it big in ww2 , something about the japs liking the secret herbs and spices , it help conceal the the fact their chicken was spoiled. it tasted better than horse meat.

  • @wstavis3135
    @wstavis3135 Місяць тому

    I loved that your Nebula screen capture showed Up and Atom. She's another one of my favorite creators on UA-cam.

  • @efraim3364
    @efraim3364 Місяць тому +12

    Star Trek: Voyager had an episode about this

    • @sp00n
      @sp00n Місяць тому +6

      As mentioned in the video

    • @paulsmart4672
      @paulsmart4672 Місяць тому

      Huge missed opportunity to add a dinosaur paleontologist to the cast.
      What were you even doing, writers?

  • @tattoohick
    @tattoohick Місяць тому

    Very impressive video !!!!! Keep up the good work bud

  • @marsar1775
    @marsar1775 Місяць тому +2

    i saw that joke in the intro coming a mile away and couldnt do anything to avoid it
    much like the asteroid

  • @SomeKindaSpy
    @SomeKindaSpy Місяць тому +2

    There is a fantastic speculative evolutionary project by C.M. Koseman and Simon Roy called "Dinosauroids" where they explored this very topic. Basically: asteroid did not happen, but heavy climate change and some die offs did. Some mammals evolved to fill the ecological niches, but most niches still belonged to the remnant dinosaur species; in particular dromaeosaurids, pterosaurs, and some ornithomimidae. Ecological pressures caused a group of troodontids to evolve that heavily resembled crow or raven-like therapods into something analogous to early human-like intelligence but with a bird-like twist.

  • @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579
    @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579 Місяць тому

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @JVDAWG1
    @JVDAWG1 Місяць тому +4

    Anyone else remember the Animorphs Megamorphs book where the Animorphs are transported back in time when two alien species warred on earth and one of them uses an asteroid to destroy the other? And Tobias let it happen without warning the peaceful species so that history would not be changed.

    • @LT.dans_new_legs
      @LT.dans_new_legs Місяць тому +1

      Nah I don't remember I never read the books

  • @rodclark4960
    @rodclark4960 Місяць тому +6

    So excited for this

  • @Mattropolis97
    @Mattropolis97 Місяць тому +2

    I’m in the army now but I wish I could’ve had you with me on deployment in Iraq last year just to hear you talk about things like this

  • @francescocarlini7613
    @francescocarlini7613 Місяць тому +4

    How awesome would it be if the Star Trek Universe had whole empires of Voth-descended dinosaurs (including the Gorn) who fought catastrophic galactic wars against the Progenitors when they first arrived from another galaxy. The Progenitors of course seeded thousands of planets with humanoid life (or maybe they were big into uplifting) in the hope that the newer humanoids would continue their genocidal war against the dinosaurs.
    I guess somewhere in the parallel dimensions of Star Trek that could be what happened...

    • @sp00n
      @sp00n Місяць тому +2

      Nice idea. Although I think they never really mentioned the Progenitors after that episode again, and never built up on that huge revelation, and I also haven't heard that the Gorn are connected to the dinosaurs at all.

  • @pll3827
    @pll3827 Місяць тому +2

    I remember someone asking Paradox for a dinosaur Earth spawn option in Stellaris and they said it is unlikely as it would make the invade Earth achievement even more difficult to achieve. A pity.

  • @stingyblue8189
    @stingyblue8189 Місяць тому +1

    The Voth, from Voyager’s “Distant Origin” episode, were fascinating. I don’t know how you didn’t like that episode. Dinosaurs evolving into higher life forms; traveling the galaxy; and flying in city ships at transwarp speeds. It would be interesting to see other orders of animals evolve into sentient beings. Look at what happened on Xindus: insects, reptiles, birds, sloths, whales, and primates all evolved into sentient beings who travelled through space. I think we could’ve learned to coexist without the assistance of any sphere builders.

  • @prophetofthesingularity
    @prophetofthesingularity Місяць тому +2

    They did not completely die off, Birds are dinosaurs.
    Ravens are extremely smart and I think that a 10,000 lb walking Raven would have been pretty terrifying so we might have never evolved past ground squirrels if this extinction event did not happen.

    • @badabing3391
      @badabing3391 Місяць тому

      its weird that tyrannosaurs were both the most intelligent megatherapod and the most robust.

  • @JohnTaylor-bb5xg
    @JohnTaylor-bb5xg Місяць тому

    Nice episode. Thanks!

  • @Dadderall73
    @Dadderall73 28 днів тому

    This title had me instantly. After reading West of Eden and the Quintaglio Ascension Trilogies I’m hooked on the idea

  • @anthonybachler9526
    @anthonybachler9526 Місяць тому +1

    ISRU - making stuff and supplies out of local stuff and supplies. You know, like we do here on earth.

  • @alexandercross9081
    @alexandercross9081 Місяць тому +8

    🎵🎶Here I come, drop your jaws to the floor. I'm riding on the mighty laser shooting dinosaur. Here I come, can you hear him roar?🎵🎶

    • @MalachiCo0
      @MalachiCo0 Місяць тому +1

      I see you are a man of culture as well

    • @alexandercross9081
      @alexandercross9081 Місяць тому

      @@MalachiCo0 indeed

    • @netherportals
      @netherportals Місяць тому

      Speaking of jaws i bet isaac got in situ from his dental app

    • @feartheoldblood
      @feartheoldblood Місяць тому +1

      Open the door, get on the floor. Everybody do the dinosaur.

    • @alexandercross9081
      @alexandercross9081 Місяць тому

      @feartheoldblood yours may have mine at the disadvantage what with yours being a classic, but it cannot compete with a monster from the acient times developed in Tokyo.

  • @jrasealexander5480
    @jrasealexander5480 27 днів тому

    Did you officially coin the term "Killamajigs" Arthur? 🤔 Cause i just unabashedly love that.😄

  • @PopCultureCat
    @PopCultureCat Місяць тому +1

    Woaaaa! This channel always delivers. I had *never* thought of the Chicxulub impactor as an alien planet killer to reset our evolution (for whatever unfathomable reason planetkiller aliens might have, I heard something about an expressroad). Did Ancient Aliens do this one?

  • @MsGaloreNails
    @MsGaloreNails 23 дні тому

    The funny thing is I remember an episode of Star Trek voyager. Where chicotae got abducted by dinosaur aliens who could talk, and they had spaceships, and they would not believe him when he said that their ancestors came from earth and fled earth before destruction

  • @robertgraybeard3750
    @robertgraybeard3750 Місяць тому

    at 1:13 the boundary layer has an elevated level of iridium but there are also elevated levels of other heavy metals including osmium, indium, platinum, gold, etc., etc.

  • @knallpistolen
    @knallpistolen Місяць тому

    Happy Arthur's Day!

  • @rebeccawinter472
    @rebeccawinter472 Місяць тому +1

    Robert Sawyer wrote a great trilogy about dinosaurs that were rescued by aliens from Earth proper to the KT extinction and developed intelligence. The Quintaglio Ascention.
    It’s a fun read to look at their culture and society. A good pairing with/contrast to his Hominids series.

  • @empireempire3545
    @empireempire3545 Місяць тому +40

    I would like to point out that Dinosaurs did not die off - not completely. The ones who survived we call birds : D Including my beloved parrots! *SQAWK*!

    • @dazza8389
      @dazza8389 Місяць тому +3

      Crocodiles still alive & well

    • @batatanna
      @batatanna Місяць тому +9

      ​@@dazza8389 crocodiles aren't dinosaurs tho, they're reptiles and are much older than dinosaurs

    • @thewaywardgrape3838
      @thewaywardgrape3838 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@dazza8389 A common misconception; Crocodiles aren't classed as Dinosaurs. They share a common ancestor, yet aren't Dinosaurs.

    • @iivin4233
      @iivin4233 Місяць тому

      ​@batatanna This is technically not true and technically true.
      Both crocodiles and birds branch off of "archosauria". Crocodiles derive from "psuedosuchia" which is one of the branches of "archosauria".
      Both dinosaur and crocodile family lines start in the same place in other words, along with more complexity that I don't want to burden everyone with.

    • @batatanna
      @batatanna Місяць тому +1

      @@iivin4233 having a common ancestor doesn't mean they're in the same category tho, it's true to say humans are boned fish than crocodiles are dinosaurs.

  • @wesleymiller6674
    @wesleymiller6674 25 днів тому +1

    I oftenly wonder how the earth would be by now in alternate timelines. It would be fascinating to see how many things--culture, religion, languages, video games, fashion, their own speculation about life on other planets, etc--would be if dinosaurs or other species evolved into intelligence.

  • @KatieWierzbicki-ib2ib
    @KatieWierzbicki-ib2ib Місяць тому

    Your videos and all of your content is absolutely amazing and appreciated 💗 that you for all the research and work you do to make this info easy for me to understand and follow along. I know I can trust your content cause some of the science based channels similar to yours are mostly nonsense click bait type of channels😡
    Thank you so much!

  • @robertlathe2165
    @robertlathe2165 Місяць тому

    Author and scientist, Thomas P. Hopp, wrote "Dinosaur Wars" series to cover the concept of intelligent dinosaurs. Interesting storyline and series. Well thought-out.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ Місяць тому +1

    For the dinosaurs to not die off, we'd need the Himalayan Uplift to not happen. The cooling trend from that killed their domination more surely than the comet and Deccan volcanos that one-twoed them

  • @Readinganddifference
    @Readinganddifference Місяць тому +1

    Omg I cannot wait for August!

  • @Jesse-zk9ge
    @Jesse-zk9ge Місяць тому +1

    I like the idea that dinosaurs could got into space. You know in the old Outer Limits series. They actually came up with a really neat avian alien humanoid. The episodes called Second Chance. It's actually one of my favorite Outer Limits episodes.👍✌

  • @NIKIOKADA
    @NIKIOKADA Місяць тому +6

    Thanks!

  • @orbitalostrich2629
    @orbitalostrich2629 Місяць тому

    This reminded me of the Astrosaurs series of books I read as a kid. Now that's some good nostalgia

    • @floridaman4073
      @floridaman4073 Місяць тому

      It was a let down as a kid when I learned Humans and Dinosaurs didn’t exist together.

  • @Phoenix10_UK
    @Phoenix10_UK 20 днів тому

    Another great video and interesting concept. When I think about how far we as a species have come with our technological advancements in such a short time.
    It's intriguing to contemplate, had they survived and continued for millions of years to the current day. What sort of civilization they would have created? Would they have technology we can only at present dream of?
    If we lived alongside them what would that world be like, would they be our protectors and teachers trying to assist us on our own journey? Teaching us about the wonders of the universe through there multi million year wisdom?

  • @nicolasolton
    @nicolasolton Місяць тому +1

    I read a story many years ago about this topic, it was called "Toolmakers Koan" by John Mcloughlin.

  • @UltimatePerfection
    @UltimatePerfection 11 днів тому

    28:02 It's important to note that the grabby aliens scenario is not the only one that could happen even if dinos get into the space. For example, they may not be hell bent on space colonization and be perfectly satisfied with having just few colonies that just prevent them from going completely extinct. Additionally, there might be a treaty that prevents colonizing already occupied systems and we simply don't have data to know how common life in the universe is.

  • @rmeddy
    @rmeddy Місяць тому

    26:49 Wow , you brought back memories with that Mass Effect Dinosaur comic, it's a parody of an old SMBC comic iirc

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe Місяць тому

      Why am I thinking about mordinsorus wrex

  • @samt6885
    @samt6885 Місяць тому +1

    Very punny, Isaac! I would love to hear more puns!

  • @Tiredjungle13
    @Tiredjungle13 Місяць тому

    The star trek episide about this was one of my favorites, also one of the first ever seen.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Місяць тому +2

    Dinosaurs are always interesting.

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 27 днів тому +1

    The New Dinosaurs by Dougal Dixon is a fun read with lots of realistic pictures.

  • @BuckROCKGROIN
    @BuckROCKGROIN Місяць тому +3

    Sauropsids lacked the laminal pallium of synapsids, which severely limited the quantity of cytologically distinct cortical areas in the pallium and therefore their intellect. See "Could theropod dinosaurs have evolved to a human level of intelligence?"

    • @simonehudspeth861
      @simonehudspeth861 Місяць тому

      dude dude i graduated collage already dont give me flash backs like that lol mr. vocabulary

    • @nosuchperson284
      @nosuchperson284 Місяць тому

      But given another 65 million years new species may have evolved overcoming those limitations. Especially once their higher levels of oxygen in the atmosphere began to decrease forcing changes.

    • @BuckROCKGROIN
      @BuckROCKGROIN Місяць тому +1

      @@nosuchperson284 astronomically unlikely. Sauropsid cognitive evolution was already at a severe disadvantage with only a nuclear pallium to work with, and even with the advantage of a laminal pallium human sapience is a single outlier resulting from a freak sequence of adaptations that were already highly improbable individually. Evolution doesn't favor intellect.

    • @thomasrdiehl
      @thomasrdiehl Місяць тому

      The existence of corvids proves this to be mere synapsid make-belief.

    • @NeutroniousTemp
      @NeutroniousTemp Місяць тому

      @@BuckROCKGROIN Human success is dopamine
      humans have the highest concentration and volume of dopamine in their brains ma dude

  • @andrewcole4843
    @andrewcole4843 Місяць тому +1

    The Turtledove series where saurians got into space before being wiped out on earth and thus rule another planetary empire that invades earth. Jack Vance's sci fi version of two rival human tribes making a comeback using specially bred combinations of dinosaur breeds to wage war only to have the winner attacked by a dinosaur space invasion....great genre.

  • @craigwright8216
    @craigwright8216 22 дні тому +1

    I can guarantee you if the dinosaurs were still around they won't be as big as they was because the oxygen was double back then.

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 27 днів тому +1

    As a representative of the Yilane, I take exception to this episode!
    For further reference, please read the excellent trio of historical novels by Harry Harrison:
    West of Eden
    Winter in Eden
    Return to Eden.

  • @bradpotts1747
    @bradpotts1747 Місяць тому

    hey was that story with the bird aliens preserved on their planets moon part of a plotline or playlist like some of your other slow boat stories? as short as it was, it was really good?

  • @hazonku
    @hazonku Місяць тому

    That last bit reminded me of Jack Horner's dino chicken project. The genes are all there, they just need to be flipped back on and according to the research already done they totally can be.

  • @michaellee6489
    @michaellee6489 Місяць тому +1

    Yeah imagine Noah trying to board 2 of every dinosaur...

  • @DaSwellian-vd3sc
    @DaSwellian-vd3sc 26 днів тому

    Star Trek Voyager deals with this concept in season 3 episode 23 'Distant Origin'! Dinosaurs evolved, to become space faring beings, millions of years ahead of humanity. Awesome episode. 🖖🏾

  • @Bunker278
    @Bunker278 Місяць тому +1

    "kill-a-ma-jig"... I'm so using that.

  • @LaikaLycanthrope
    @LaikaLycanthrope Місяць тому

    Big critters also tend to reproduce more slowly than small ones, and have fewer babies per pregnancy.

  • @aphaileeja
    @aphaileeja Місяць тому +1

    What if dinosaurs were just genetically engineered guard dogs for ancient rich people's acreage?

  • @SirHeinzbond
    @SirHeinzbond Місяць тому

    when i was a kid, i went once to a holiday/house sitting for relatives with my parents, and after i had done reading my books, i looked at the books that were there, and first book was west of eden / harry harrison and second rendezvous with 31/439 Arthur C Clarke, and i was into Sci -Fi and What if.... i think i know what you are thinking about the later, the first one would be interesting, especially with all that notion of an non fire and non/less metallic technology....

  • @larrysouthern5098
    @larrysouthern5098 Місяць тому +1

    There are probably plenty of dinosaurs on other planets in the universe..and we had better hope they never find us..

  • @mitchellminer9597
    @mitchellminer9597 Місяць тому +1

    I have an hypothesis that dinosaurs overall were weakened by the invention of flight by a few species. Before flight, dino diseases spread at the walking pace of a sick sauropod, and other dinos could see and avoid.
    After flight, a bird could pick an infested parasite off a sick T-Rex, and be halfway across the continent before falling in front of a hungry Utahraptor.

    • @duckpotat9818
      @duckpotat9818 Місяць тому

      Pterosaurs evolved flight some 220 million years ago, dinosaurs (birds and relatives) doing so wouldnt have made any difference. Not to mention insects, we know of dozens of insect spread diseases, none primarily by birds, not even in cattle where it would be obvious if an enterprising parasite evolved to hitchhike oxpeckers.

  • @mikeyhuntsman568
    @mikeyhuntsman568 23 дні тому

    Excellent content and thank you, thank you so much for voicing your videos yourself. Too many AI voice vids out there.

  • @jmcenanly1
    @jmcenanly1 Місяць тому

    @ 26:20 I remember that the Voyager crew determined that the Voth had evolved from Parasaurolophus, A plant eating dinosaur that preferred to go around on four feet.

    • @stingyblue8189
      @stingyblue8189 Місяць тому

      No, it was Eryops which was carnivorous and similar to the Dimetrodon just without the sail on its back. Then, the next closest ancestor was the Hadrosaur which was a bipedal herbivore.

  • @kiikaala
    @kiikaala Місяць тому

    Thanks for the dinosaur addition to my collection of dad jokes!

  • @mikescholz6429
    @mikescholz6429 Місяць тому

    I’m going to keep pushing my theory that the great pyramid was built by velociraptors until it catches on.

  • @netherportals
    @netherportals Місяць тому +1

    Chronos trigger taught me all I need to know, the fan game of fire filled in everything I didn't need to know. Dinoids just want food and love, in that order

    • @feartheoldblood
      @feartheoldblood Місяць тому

      Had lavos not destroyed their species then they'd more than likely have killed it shortly after making landfall. Reptites were extremely formidable. All the more terrifying is the notion that any world could be host to a world ending parasite and they'd never even know, to our knowledge that lavos was the only one ever to be killed but even then it was not destroyed, thus dream devourer.

  • @jasonGamesMaster
    @jasonGamesMaster Місяць тому +1

    Really missed an opportunity to show Sonic & Knuckles when you talked about hedgehogs and enchidnas, lol

  • @SamSchott1
    @SamSchott1 Годину тому

    I favor the dinosaur extinction theory put forward by Gary Larson as illustrated in The Far Side.

  • @iamlrrrruleroftheplanetomi1799
    @iamlrrrruleroftheplanetomi1799 29 днів тому

    Makes me miss that show Dinosaurs from the early 90s lol

  • @evacuatedspace6946
    @evacuatedspace6946 Місяць тому +1

    You forgot about Dr Who's Silurians.

  • @mbarrow360
    @mbarrow360 Місяць тому

    They would have developed interesting biological changes like perhaps thermoregulation and mammalian reproductive gestation

  • @swainscheps
    @swainscheps Місяць тому

    What’s more revealing here is that dinosaurs were around for 200m years and didn’t get smarter, nor did brain-size increase. You’d think variation would have provided one species or another to get more brain matter, providing some evolutionary advantage - (serving better pattern recognition, more fine-tuned muscle control, communication, heightened senses) - it all makes me wonder about what evidence of progress toward intelligence would have looked like (could we detect increasingly complex social behavior? Primitive tool usage?)
    Btw - IA- I am a once-every now-and-then viewer- it’s been a while since I watched a video. Just wanted to say: you sound great …(not that it ever affected the quality of your content) - but I can definitely hear a ton of progress since I was last here, which wasn’t too long after your tongue surgery iirc. Keep up the good work.

  • @JustOneAsbesto
    @JustOneAsbesto Місяць тому

    0:50 I have... SO many questions for that animator. Wow.

  • @erniemajor
    @erniemajor 24 дні тому

    Their main concern , as with all (non human) creatures would have been to reproduce. They would only be fighting pursuant to mating, or finding food. Mindless aggression 'for fun' or to show off is apparently mostly a human pastime.

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 Місяць тому +3

    There's a certain discussion about if dinosaurs or even birds could actually evolve into sentient beings.
    While many of these creatures shows or have shown sign of such development, a recent study demonstrated how the reproductive system of birds and dinosaurs is actually an obstacle for that achievement.
    It was said infact that the fact these creatures have to mature closed inside an egg, such egg constrict the dimensions of the brain itself. So with a minor skull capacity and relative inferior number of nervous cells interconnections that are at the very (material) base of intelligence.

    • @necrogenisis
      @necrogenisis Місяць тому +2

      Link to the study? Archosaurs as a rule have denser neurons than mammals, and neuron numbers might often be correlated to intelligence, but higher neuron counts don't necessarily equate to higher intelligence when studying non-mammals.
      Also, the word used here should be "sapient"; most of these animals are sentient already. Some avians, like corvids, could easily be considered "pre-sapient" or "proto-sapient" int their development.

    • @BuckROCKGROIN
      @BuckROCKGROIN Місяць тому

      I want to see that study too

  • @seanhewitt603
    @seanhewitt603 Місяць тому

    I am curious about all the crude oil deposits in the oceanic crust that has been subducted into the earth's mantle. There must be some... Effects that we have yet to relate to the presence of so many hydrocarbon deposits, and their interaction with metal oxides and silicon oxides...