…And for all the richest and most successful merchants life inevitably became rather dull, they began to imagine that this was therefore the fault of the worlds they’d settled on. None of them was entirely satisfactory: either the climate wasn’t quite right in the later part of the afternoon, or the day was half an hour too long, or the sea was exactly the wrong shade of pink. And thus were created the conditions for a staggering new form of specialist industry: custom-made luxury planet building.
Find a planet with liquid water on its surface. Simple as inoculating with plankton. Could imagine first plankton bloom, spreading across the planet. Paradise planet ugh, paradise shelter possible. Someday sure someday. I've read that book.
this kind of concept always boils down to from which side you see the swan: the graceful glide over the water from above or the frantic paddling of the feet from below.
I'm sure some terrorist organization would want to mess with @deker0954's plans or at least make their job more aggravating. Then there are the regular intoxicated jerks that want to annoy others.
One of the biggest mistakes of the Star Wars movies is NOT having scenes on Alderaan so that we could see what it was like for all of the movies that took place before it was destroyed (Rogue One, Solo, and the prequel trilogy).
@@Zurroundit was stupid for emperor Palpatine to destroy Alderaan wasting all those people and resources. Alderaan is the only other planet than Naboo that is a earth like planet which is the best environment for humans.
@@tylersoto7465 Instead he could have contacted the leadership on that planet and told them to watch while he destroys ANOTHER planet in that star system than after destroying that planet tell them in no uncertain terms that their world will be destroyed too if they disobey his empire in any way. For example imagine if a galactic military force made us watch MARS get destroyed then warn us that Earth is next if we disobey any of their orders.
@@AchtungGefahr sorry, I meant the words he said. not the photos, the photos might be from Switzerland. I'm just saying not all Georgian and Romanian villagers think of their home as a paradise even though it matches the description well.
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This is by far my favorite scifi theme. Humans with technologically enabled superpowers, imune do disease and untouchable by feral animals living in utopian paradise worlds, flying over waterfalls and beaches, floating islands and all sorts of wonderful things. Does anybody has book recommendations about something like this?
@@miguelatkinson i haven't considered much of Buddhism beyond critical analysis of why it's wrong. So since it's not true it's ultimately irrelevant. But i also don't know about said purelands, given they're not central to the apologetical issues, so you're welcome to summarize it
Some of Iain M Banks Culture novels deal with a somewhat Utopian interstellar civilization run largely by machines and has many alien citizens participating. But not everyone chooses to stay and all are free to do what they will within broad limits. There are also many human worlds outside of the culture. Some books I guess are about circumstances raised by living with it or making contact with unknown beings on unknown worlds. I'm on my second novel and am going by what I have learned about the series. They say you don't really have to read them in order and are generally stand alone novels with different takes on the Culture. Later books might be better understood from reading earlier ones? But he's a literate author and a skilled storyteller who didn't always write in the SF genre. Research a little about the series and his notes on the Culture and try a couple or three.
Hearing Issac describe paradise while I'm working on a Monday morning is kinda hard. I'd *SO MUCH* rather be where he's talking about than where I am, and I like my job for the most part.
A NEW LIFE AWAITS YOU IN THE OFFWORLD COLONIES! THE CHANCE TO BEGIN AGAIN IN A GOLDEN LAND OF OPPORTUNITY AND ADVENTURE! Seriously, this sounds like a perfect setting for the beginning of a terrifying horror movie...
Mister arthur when isaac asimov wrote these books The number representing a billion was a thousand times larger than it is now.. Somewhere in time.. They changed it to mean a thousand million instead of a million million❗️
Paradise for me is the perfect massage The body becomes so relaxed that the brain tries to fall asleep, but the massage applies just enough pressure on the body to prevent that, locking you in a state of not quite sleeping yet not quite awake; you are aware of your surroundings, but the senses are dulled, you do not think, but are still very much a conscious being experiencing the stimuli around you, time loses meaning, minutes feel like hours, yet the entire experience is over in a heartbeat I have had many massages in my life, but have only obtained this nirvana once, though most have gotten close and were still enjoyable experiences
@@narxes Agreed, but tbh It would be very hard for a 4X game to contain even just half of concepts Isaac covers in his videos. SFIA made me aware of the unfathomable scale real interstellar civilisations would have
I agree with your conclusion. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is very true, especially with regard to this subject. I am fairly sure what I call paradise will not be paradise for a fairly large group of people and vice versa. Also I would appreciate a regular change in surrounding and weather or things would get boring fairly soon.
Imagine a planet where the fields are always spring, the woodlands are always autumn, the beach and coast is always summer, and the beer is always winter cold.
Your opening describes Cape Breton Island in Canada. I live there now and begrudge having to leave for anytime. Paradise exists on earth, but only in isolated situations for particular periods of time. Global warming is making this place even better. Our summer temps are typically around 27°C for the hot period. Winter temps are typically around zero to -10°C. I find the winters are the best, offering vast vistas of snow covered landscapes from the ocean up into the highlands. Our rivers teem with fish and encounters with wildlife are frequent. A great place to visit, but you will want to stay... forever!😁
@@monkeyfist.348yea some winters are brutal (-22*F) which I enjoy but spring summer and fall are excellent! I love traveling Canada being so close to Quebec, I’ll look into your area! :)
If we don't destroy ourselves, then eventually we will make Earth a paradise. We will make every place we reach to a paradise. With some problems along the way.... I think Octavia Butler was right when she said: *_It is the destiny of Earthlife to take root among the stars._*
Here in Japan, I can already buy off-the-shelf air conditioners that track two people in a room and apply customized heat or cooling settings to their location by directed fans. Few years back they made a ton of TV ads to sell them. Occasionally still see one.
*Starts strumming a Guns "N Roses songs* "Take me down to the Paradise Planet, where the grass is green and the woman are pretty. Oh, will you please take me home."
One of the late Richard Hatch's book sequels to Battlestar Galactica was titled "Paradis" which of course is "Paradise" minus the final letter or an "almost paradise". Reminds me of the song Almost Paradise which is on my music playlist. Some of the characters in that book wanted to give up the search for Earth and just stay on Paradis while others wanted to continue their quest to find Earth (even though Earth was not as nice a place).
27:30 Yep, Trantor, if I recall correctly, was a planet on which every square mile (apart from the emperor's palace and grounds) was covered miles deep in city, even deep into the ground and spreading out into the continental shelf under the ocean, with the staggering population of 40 billion, feed by food imported from 20 agricultural worlds . . . 40 billion? Er, must have been the old British billion (a million million), and Trantor must have had a really small total land area.
I lived in Hawaii for 18 months, corporate America for 25 years, returned to the UK for 5 and I'm now looking at the former eastern block for the freedom a less "developed" country offers. When unification is required and legislated, what happens to those of us who do not wish to be unified, nor to compel others to do so?
I used to have a book on writing SF. Tropes and things to avoid. Naming conventions. And when to break them. One comment l specifically remember was from Jerry Pournelle. It went something like "it was raining on Mongo last Tuesday". Planets with atmosphers have weather. Weather is variable. Even a paradise like say Tahiti isn't a paradise all the time.
We ruined some of the most beautiful island places on Earth with atomic testing, greedy developers stack houses on top of each other pitting neighbors against each other. I have no doubt human vice would repeat this cycle off planet as well.
Every version of paradise sounds like some version of Earth. Can there be an exception to this? There might be people for whom a paradise world is Hoth or Arrakis. I'm rather fond of deserts myself.
Paradise is a Persian word for Walled Garden and conceys the idea of Eden but cultivated and protected. In contrast to wilderness, which is uncultivated nature. A garden is cultivated / domesticated nature
The more you describe the definition of 'paradise planet' the more I thought it sounded like purgatory. Then again, I'm also the problem solver who asks "how are you getting all the materials and labor to support and maintain all this?'
My humble note is that the meaning of paradise should be about intelligent beings rather than environment. Posthumans will construct environment according to their needs. More to say, I believe their meaning of 'comfort' should much differ from what we're using now.
Hmm, cool rooms with individual tracked infrared heat lamps... I wonder what the math is on energy efficiency? It sounds like a good idea. Now, what about microwaves instead? Which would also give you a great way to reheat your tea and snack, as well as deal with guest who have overstayed their welcome...
Just imagine a portion of humanity says forget stars and just make hollowed out astroids into ecosystem sized ships designed to be self sustaining as much as possible and just roaming the galaxy slowly but surely.
please do an episode on extreme sports in the era of space travel, like surfing on different planets and moons or alien tidal bores or even oceans out of different liquids.. etc
Earth is a paradise. Humans keep destroying it. If we find another paradise planet, what will keep us from doing the same, now that we have a "backup"?😢
My paradise planet would probably not have that town full of people. If there's other folks on my perfect world, they're all at least a continent away... and even that may be too close.
You do know what Earthlings do when finding what corresponds to your description of paradise, don't you? They look for the spot that would be best to defend and build a city.
Even Paradise becomes blase. Human beings require challenge and adversety, stimulation and change. In that sense I believe that existence within this Universe IS Paradise
You are close to ✝️. Keep digging. This world is cursed but retains its originally good aspects, only muted or corrupted. It is possible to have meaningful challenge without the presence of the curse. That's what ✝️s Have to look forward to
Paradise is subjective ... it's more about a frame of mind than an actual setting. That said, living as a beggar on the streets of Mogadishu would require more than 'a positive attitude' to be anyone's idea of 'Paradise'.
If you mean a dynamic and diverse predator/prey driven ecology, sure, but humanity is afraid to be strong, and is working to wipe out all things sharp of tooth and claw...
I too like Brin. If you are friends could you ask his opinion on PE Rowe. I think you may know Rowe too?? At least he has credited you with many of his ideas. I think Brin and Rowe have similar styles and I wonder if Brin has listened to Rowe's audiobooks here on UA-cam, and what he thinks of him.
I think regardless of what we find, there won't be such thing as a true paradise world, but we will most likely find planets with paradise zones within it. You can technically make a seaside resort on a desert planet so long as said desert planet has at least one sea ;3
My order for Asimov's books (if tied on a number then read in any order, example: I, Robot, and Foundation first book, both are entries into the universe, but it doesn't matter which one is first, just as long as they're read first. 1. I, Robot, Foundation (first book) 2. Foundation and Empire (second) 3. Second Foundation (third of the original trilogy) 4. Galactic Empire Trilogy - in any order, only Pebble in the Sky is necessary for the continuity. 5. Caves of Steel 6. The Naked Sun 7. Robots of Dawn 8. Foundation's Edge (sequel 1) 9. Foundation and Earth (sequel 2) 10. Robots and Empire 11. Prelude to Foundation 12. Forward the Foundation The reason I suggest this non-Chronological order of the books is because there are massive spoilers that won't mean anything if you read them in Chronological order, but will be very rewarding if you read them in this order - this also mostly matches the publication order, so things are less jarring stylistically - as Asimov's early writing is well plotted, but characters are contrived and emotionally dry cogs at best, but there's a jump in quality going into Caves of Steel (characters still contrived, but much more emotionally engaging), and another jump in quality going into Robots of Dawn, and IMO his last books are also his finest written, most organic (which is a bit ironic since these are prequels, and they literally end where the original Foundation begins, the end is already set in stone), and most emotionally engaging. Also, read all these books before watching the Apple+/Sony series, because HOLY HELL does that spoil a lot from all over. If you watch just a few episodes, already some of the biggest twists from late in the series are spoiled. But it's not like the show runner (guy who wrote the Blade films, co-wrote the Dark Knight, and also show runner for Sandman) broke it on purpose, he kind of had to in order for things to make sense, because the books are incredibly tunnel visioned - by that I mean they focus mostly on the conversations of a select few, while a TV show sort of demands world building and a universe to exist in. But yeah, there are a lot of plot lines that (due to the tunnel vision) the reader won't know about until way later in the book series, but that the TV viewer will see as part of the wider world. Other than that, the characters in the Foundation TV series are quite a bit different, much more fleshed-out and 3 dimensional than their book counter-parts (minus certain ones from the prequels that didn't appear in the original books - because the prequel characters simply were way more fleshed out in the books than those in the original trilogy). So, if you read all the books, the TV series isn't just a reprint, but like a remake for film that re-vamps and reorganizes the information into a more chronological approach. One way to put it is that the show and the books are two different retellings of the same story which differ significantly in their style and structure - and while the books don't spoil the show, the show definitely spoils the books. But, I suggest putting the show off for similar reasons to why I suggest not to read the books chronologically, big spoilers. I'll also note that the Imperial Court in the show plays a MUCH bigger role, and takes on the role of many of the other roles in the story, many of the scenes that take place in Anacreon, for example, take place on Trantor. But, what they do with the Emperor is very interesting, and really demonstrates the cause of stagnation in the Empire. Asimov was inspired by the stagnation of the Imperial court and the developments on the periphery leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire between the eras of Theodosius and Justinian, and beyond - except he sort of combined the Roman and Byzantine courts, while maintaining equivalents for the break-away powers led by other forces - such as the Sub-Roman Britons, the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Franks, Burgundians, Vandals, and Berbers - who all took command of various parts of the Empire, ruling as something like the Dominions of the British Empire to rebel states (some integrated in the Empire like the Franks, Visigoths, and Ostrogoths, others mostly independent, like the Vandals). This all appears in the show and books, but looking at it from different angles.
Before I even start to start to watch: "what a great subject" xx. Much love from me. More brains 🧠 needed. Instant like or thumbs up from me. Kind regards:11:11.
The term "Paradise Planets" is utterly ridiculous because paradise is subjective. To some, endless cities with night clubs and restaurants they can visit each night is paradise, whilst to others, white sandy beaches and tropical palm trees, warm shallow seas and a perfectly controlled and predictable climate would be, and to each the opposite would be hell.
I don't see why it would be ridiculous. Both solutions would be paradise planets, only to part of the population. As you say it's subjective, so anyone can use the term for whatever they want. Or maybe you're reacting to the fact that "paradise" is often meant to be universal, like in the game Stellaris. Or, well, in religions...
Buddy you're pretty much in your beginning description you pretty much described where I live in Oregon. Which actually would be Baker County. At the base of the sister mountains, near the border between Oregon and Idaho. Honest to God I'm not lying, I swear the only thing missing here is some fairytale creatures like fairies and Dragons.
Imagine a world whose paradise cycle was controlled by a machine. And the negative low cycle became so bad that the world-over ten thousand years, and after some revolution that cut them off from elsewhere in the galaxy-gains a philosophy of apocalypse that is constantly twisted every time it happens and records are passed down. A story following heroes trying to stop the planet ‘dying’, only to learn that it’s not dying, just following orders that it has followed before and will follow again long after they are gone-unless they do something that could permanently leave their world a desolate nightmare.
Augmented reality will made habitability liveable. Effectively we'll have goggles that will allow us to navigate the external physical world, but it will add additional superfluous things to sitate our basic humanistic needs. Barren rocks will appear with moss etc, the sky will be blue, birds may appear that don't really exist etc. We'd be living a dream, like the matrix.
…And for all the richest and most successful merchants life inevitably became rather dull, they began to imagine that this was therefore the fault of the worlds they’d settled on. None of them was entirely satisfactory: either the climate wasn’t quite right in the later part of the afternoon, or the day was half an hour too long, or the sea was exactly the wrong shade of pink.
And thus were created the conditions for a staggering new form of specialist industry: custom-made luxury planet building.
exactly!!
Indeed!
Find a planet with liquid water on its surface. Simple as inoculating with plankton.
Could imagine first plankton bloom, spreading across the planet.
Paradise planet ugh, paradise shelter possible. Someday sure someday. I've read that book.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
Magrathia
this kind of concept always boils down to from which side you see the swan: the graceful glide over the water from above or the frantic paddling of the feet from below.
What about the side that honks?
Diversity of environments conditions and cultures so that one can "vote with one's feet" as it were.
This remind my Risa in Star Trek, what was initially presented as paradise, if you ignore risk of loosing organs.
One man's paradise is another man's full time maintenance job.
Sounds like money💸💸💸
I'll tend the planetary defense network. Hobbiton can go about it's business.
"it's a small world, until you have to clean it"
I'm sure some terrorist organization would want to mess with @deker0954's plans or at least make their job more aggravating. Then there are the regular intoxicated jerks that want to annoy others.
@@PeterKnaggeI'm the Housekeeper and I approve this message 😂
A breathable atmosphere with no mosquitoes!
No insects, except butterflies.
A world where all insects are replaced by tiny fluffy cat-like mammals.
Landscape around where you live to invite dragonflies. They murder mosquitos by the hundreds.
Happy Father's Day, Isaac! Thank you for many many hours of entertainment, education, and sleep-aid!
Thank you, and you're very welcome :)
Lol in germany fathers day was on 9th may
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Germany has nine mays 😮😮😮😮
JK…
I know you meant “the ninth OF may”, lol
@@bobinthewest8559 i laughed tbh
I still remember the day I visited Alderaan. Good thing I took pictures.
One of the biggest mistakes of the Star Wars movies is NOT having scenes on Alderaan so that we could see what it was like for all of the movies that took place before it was destroyed (Rogue One, Solo, and the prequel trilogy).
@@Zurroundit was stupid for emperor Palpatine to destroy Alderaan wasting all those people and resources. Alderaan is the only other planet than Naboo that is a earth like planet which is the best environment for humans.
Looking for love in Alderaan places?
@@JCDenton2097 Planetmaxing.
@@tylersoto7465 Instead he could have contacted the leadership on that planet and told them to watch while he destroys ANOTHER planet in that star system than after destroying that planet tell them in no uncertain terms that their world will be destroyed too if they disobey his empire in any way. For example imagine if a galactic military force made us watch MARS get destroyed then warn us that Earth is next if we disobey any of their orders.
I love how the shots of paradise are from Switzerland.
my bet is more on a village in Romania or Georgia. Switzerland has too much snow.
@@DominikPlaylists im pretty sure I’ve been to that place, definitely Switzerland. We don’t always have snow, rather global warming….
@@AchtungGefahr sorry, I meant the words he said. not the photos, the photos might be from Switzerland. I'm just saying not all Georgian and Romanian villagers think of their home as a paradise even though it matches the description well.
This is by far my favorite scifi theme. Humans with technologically enabled superpowers, imune do disease and untouchable by feral animals living in utopian paradise worlds, flying over waterfalls and beaches, floating islands and all sorts of wonderful things. Does anybody has book recommendations about something like this?
Genesis 1-2 and Revelation 21, hehe
Dancers at the end of time by Michael Moorcock. Not utopian by any means, but still relevant, I think.
@cosmicreason2242 have you considered the purelands of pureland buddhism
@@miguelatkinson i haven't considered much of Buddhism beyond critical analysis of why it's wrong. So since it's not true it's ultimately irrelevant. But i also don't know about said purelands, given they're not central to the apologetical issues, so you're welcome to summarize it
Some of Iain M Banks Culture novels deal with a somewhat Utopian interstellar civilization run largely by machines and has many alien citizens participating. But not everyone chooses to stay and all are free to do what they will within broad limits. There are also many human worlds outside of the culture. Some books I guess are about circumstances raised by living with it or making contact with unknown beings on unknown worlds.
I'm on my second novel and am going by what I have learned about the series. They say you don't really have to read them in order and are generally stand alone novels with different takes on the Culture. Later books might be better understood from reading earlier ones?
But he's a literate author and a skilled storyteller who didn't always write in the SF genre.
Research a little about the series and his notes on the Culture and try a couple or three.
Hearing Issac describe paradise while I'm working on a Monday morning is kinda hard. I'd *SO MUCH* rather be where he's talking about than where I am, and I like my job for the most part.
A NEW LIFE AWAITS YOU IN THE OFFWORLD COLONIES! THE CHANCE TO BEGIN AGAIN IN A GOLDEN LAND OF OPPORTUNITY AND ADVENTURE!
Seriously, this sounds like a perfect setting for the beginning of a terrifying horror movie...
Don't go. It's a trap!
Rest in peace Anita Gale. Thank you for your many contributions to the Space Program and for being an inspiration to us all. Ad Astra.
Mister arthur when isaac asimov wrote these books The number representing a billion was a thousand times larger than it is now.. Somewhere in time.. They changed it to mean a thousand million instead of a million million❗️
Paradise for me is the perfect massage
The body becomes so relaxed that the brain tries to fall asleep, but the massage applies just enough pressure on the body to prevent that, locking you in a state of not quite sleeping yet not quite awake; you are aware of your surroundings, but the senses are dulled, you do not think, but are still very much a conscious being experiencing the stimuli around you, time loses meaning, minutes feel like hours, yet the entire experience is over in a heartbeat
I have had many massages in my life, but have only obtained this nirvana once, though most have gotten close and were still enjoyable experiences
Stellaris Gaia World explanation:
+ resort world decision
+ Organic Paradise from the Rogue Servitors.
bro theres a narrator mod with isaacs voice
@@narxes Agreed, but tbh It would be very hard for a 4X game to contain even just half of concepts Isaac covers in his videos. SFIA made me aware of the unfathomable scale real interstellar civilisations would have
had the same thought lol
I agree with your conclusion. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is very true, especially with regard to this subject. I am fairly sure what I call paradise will not be paradise for a fairly large group of people and vice versa. Also I would appreciate a regular change in surrounding and weather or things would get boring fairly soon.
Imagine a planet where the fields are always spring, the woodlands are always autumn, the beach and coast is always summer, and the beer is always winter cold.
I like to imagine that on Sombrero World it’s always Taco Tuesday
Your opening describes Cape Breton Island in Canada. I live there now and begrudge having to leave for anytime. Paradise exists on earth, but only in isolated situations for particular periods of time. Global warming is making this place even better. Our summer temps are typically around 27°C for the hot period. Winter temps are typically around zero to -10°C. I find the winters are the best, offering vast vistas of snow covered landscapes from the ocean up into the highlands. Our rivers teem with fish and encounters with wildlife are frequent.
A great place to visit, but you will want to stay... forever!😁
Jeffersonville, Vermont!
@daleru14 I grew up for a short time, near Potsdam NY. I remember brutal hard winters, not no more I guess😬
@@monkeyfist.348yea some winters are brutal (-22*F) which I enjoy but spring summer and fall are excellent! I love traveling Canada being so close to Quebec, I’ll look into your area! :)
@@daleru14 Nova Scotia has lots to offer. Like, ummm... Trump can't visit🤣 and no one carries guns except the RCMP😁
It also describes the Kashmir and Kangra valleys in the Indian Himalayas.
If we don't destroy ourselves, then eventually we will make Earth a paradise.
We will make every place we reach to a paradise.
With some problems along the way....
I think Octavia Butler was right when she said:
*_It is the destiny of Earthlife to take root among the stars._*
Earth could become a 'Paradise Planet' and it would only require the removal of ONE species.
... it's the only way to be sure.
Here in Japan, I can already buy off-the-shelf air conditioners that track two people in a room and apply customized heat or cooling settings to their location by directed fans. Few years back they made a ton of TV ads to sell them. Occasionally still see one.
7:06 in a nice mountainous area with lots of trees and rain and thunder storms and lots of snow in the winter.
*Starts strumming a Guns "N Roses songs*
"Take me down to the Paradise Planet, where the grass is green and the woman are pretty. Oh, will you please take me home."
Happy Father's Day Issac!
One of the late Richard Hatch's book sequels to Battlestar Galactica was titled "Paradis" which of course is "Paradise" minus the final letter or an "almost paradise". Reminds me of the song Almost Paradise which is on my music playlist.
Some of the characters in that book wanted to give up the search for Earth and just stay on Paradis while others wanted to continue their quest to find Earth (even though Earth was not as nice a place).
One man's heaven is another man's hell is confirmed true by seasonal allergies.
Its still not HELL, though. I actually prefer the mid Atlantic to other places but i just have to deal with the allergies
That's what Modern medicine and science research to counteract allergies.
So its basically like Long Island or Maine?
Man every time you post you inspire me thank you for making my day for years at this point! I'm excited to watch with my coffee and kitty
Perhaps a paradise Orbital would be preferable
Same. I wonder if a paradise Planet is preferable to one who grew up on an Orbital?
Orbitals provide a recreation but planets are the real deal :)
@@thesenate1844 planets have more hazards but also more resources
@@thesenate1844 No, the Orbital would be the real deal.
@@thesenate1844 great luxury star ports though
that opening description brought a tear to my eyes. Beautiful.
I need all four seasons in paradise. Don't know if I could stand the same thing all day everyday.
I've missed your last few episodes and I'm sorry. Your video give me much joy and peace. I look forward to hearing your voice again 😊
Although it''s in a fantasy novel, I always thought being a Valheru would be rather nice.
What a lovely prose, it is almost poetic. Go Isaac!
I would like hearing every idea about personalized paradise and prison pocket dimensions for as many as possible if ever possible
27:30
Yep, Trantor, if I recall correctly, was a planet on which every square mile (apart from the emperor's palace and grounds) was covered miles deep in city, even deep into the ground and spreading out into the continental shelf under the ocean, with the staggering population of 40 billion, feed by food imported from 20 agricultural worlds . . . 40 billion? Er, must have been the old British billion (a million million), and Trantor must have had a really small total land area.
This is Risa's whole selling point. Being a paradise world where everything is all good.
Happy Father's Day Issac.
I voted for this episode and am very glad you finally made it❤
OMG I love this so much. Thank you, Isaac!!
Loved this episode. Your mileage will vary indeed
Also I think Isaac and Sarah are the parents that every child would be lucky enough to have
Let’s gooo! More explanation of Stellaris concepts by Isaac hoho!
Happy Father's Day, Isaac. Dad's have to stick together!
Hello Isaac,thank for a good episode today!
I lived in Hawaii for 18 months, corporate America for 25 years, returned to the UK for 5 and I'm now looking at the former eastern block for the freedom a less "developed" country offers. When unification is required and legislated, what happens to those of us who do not wish to be unified, nor to compel others to do so?
I like living alone in the desert, but they WILL force us all into cities eventually- where it will be easier to control us.
Paradise needs at least one tentacle pit.
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The opening description of paradise sounded just like when I go to work in the morning. That moment just bfore the alarm clock goes off !
Bless Isaac and your family... Happy Father's day
Isaacism, the act of escaping into Tech Comfort Dreams
I used to have a book on writing SF. Tropes and things to avoid. Naming conventions. And when to break them. One comment l specifically remember was from Jerry Pournelle. It went something like "it was raining on Mongo last Tuesday". Planets with atmosphers have weather. Weather is variable. Even a paradise like say Tahiti isn't a paradise all the time.
It was raining on earth yesterday 😅
Earth is a paradise planet compared to every other planet we've ever found.
no
We ruined some of the most beautiful island places on Earth with atomic testing, greedy developers stack houses on top of each other pitting neighbors against each other. I have no doubt human vice would repeat this cycle off planet as well.
Every version of paradise sounds like some version of Earth. Can there be an exception to this? There might be people for whom a paradise world is Hoth or Arrakis. I'm rather fond of deserts myself.
Paradise is a Persian word for Walled Garden and conceys the idea of Eden but cultivated and protected. In contrast to wilderness, which is uncultivated nature. A garden is cultivated / domesticated nature
Thanks for the episode! Always worth to do the utopian thing every now and then and remind us all about where to aim for!
Thank you Isaac for your reminder to hope for a cosmic future
13:25 Earlier example might be Pleasure Island of Pinocchio.
The more you describe the definition of 'paradise planet' the more I thought it sounded like purgatory. Then again, I'm also the problem solver who asks "how are you getting all the materials and labor to support and maintain all this?'
Knowing humans I would say slave labor.
By the time we have different planets, robots
My humble note is that the meaning of paradise should be about intelligent beings rather than environment. Posthumans will construct environment according to their needs. More to say, I believe their meaning of 'comfort' should much differ from what we're using now.
Good morning
Hmm, cool rooms with individual tracked infrared heat lamps... I wonder what the math is on energy efficiency? It sounds like a good idea.
Now, what about microwaves instead? Which would also give you a great way to reheat your tea and snack, as well as deal with guest who have overstayed their welcome...
“Or under a different butt. “ cracked me up- a little out of character and I loved it.
Just imagine a portion of humanity says forget stars and just make hollowed out astroids into ecosystem sized ships designed to be self sustaining as much as possible and just roaming the galaxy slowly but surely.
The description of Paradise sounds so good. It literally sounds like "Paradise". When can we get a spot of the O'Neill Cylinder?
If anyone asks, I went to Risa with Riker.
keep your horgon to yourself, pal
please do an episode on extreme sports in the era of space travel, like surfing on different planets and moons or alien tidal bores or even oceans out of different liquids.. etc
The whole beginning part of this video reminded me of Patrick reading the candy bar wrapper
:) Bit of classic Spongebob moment
Earth is a paradise. Humans keep destroying it. If we find another paradise planet, what will keep us from doing the same, now that we have a "backup"?😢
Irrational fear.
My paradise planet would probably not have that town full of people. If there's other folks on my perfect world, they're all at least a continent away... and even that may be too close.
Alone on a world without other humans sounds wonderful.
@@Joe-Przybranowski It really does.
Note: Valhalla isn't a world. It mead hall in Asgard. It basically the barracks for the Einherjar, warriors collected by Odin to fight in Ragnarök
Simply another superb sci-fi Sunday episode on a common yet simultaneously unexplored topic.
"What happens in the Vega System stays in the Vega System 😉" - Cheeky ad in a space station, probably.
You do know what Earthlings do when finding what corresponds to your description of paradise, don't you?
They look for the spot that would be best to defend and build a city.
We would do EXACTLY what the humans did in the Avatar movies.
Even Paradise becomes blase. Human beings require challenge and adversety, stimulation and change. In that sense I believe that existence within this Universe IS Paradise
You are close to ✝️. Keep digging. This world is cursed but retains its originally good aspects, only muted or corrupted. It is possible to have meaningful challenge without the presence of the curse. That's what ✝️s Have to look forward to
@@cosmictreason2242 Religion is a cancer on society ... one that is getting closer to being cured as we learn more and fear less.
Paradise is subjective ... it's more about a frame of mind than an actual setting.
That said, living as a beggar on the streets of Mogadishu would require more than 'a positive attitude' to be anyone's idea of 'Paradise'.
we already have one :)
our own? How poetic, unless you meant something else
No planet that has Detroit on it can be described as a paradise
If you mean a dynamic and diverse predator/prey driven ecology, sure, but humanity is afraid to be strong, and is working to wipe out all things sharp of tooth and claw...
You mean a Prison Planet? Yes we do have one :P
Detroit can be bad, but doesn’t hold a candle to cities in India where there are no pollution controls.
"Paradise, can it be all I heard it was? I close my eyes and maybe I'm already there." - Tommy Shaw
Happy Father's Day 😊 ❤️ 💙.
Hi, thanks for all the video of my neighborhood!
I too like Brin. If you are friends could you ask his opinion on PE Rowe. I think you may know Rowe too?? At least he has credited you with many of his ideas. I think Brin and Rowe have similar styles and I wonder if Brin has listened to Rowe's audiobooks here on UA-cam, and what he thinks of him.
I think regardless of what we find, there won't be such thing as a true paradise world, but we will most likely find planets with paradise zones within it.
You can technically make a seaside resort on a desert planet so long as said desert planet has at least one sea ;3
My order for Asimov's books (if tied on a number then read in any order, example: I, Robot, and Foundation first book, both are entries into the universe, but it doesn't matter which one is first, just as long as they're read first.
1. I, Robot, Foundation (first book)
2. Foundation and Empire (second)
3. Second Foundation (third of the original trilogy)
4. Galactic Empire Trilogy - in any order, only Pebble in the Sky is necessary for the continuity.
5. Caves of Steel
6. The Naked Sun
7. Robots of Dawn
8. Foundation's Edge (sequel 1)
9. Foundation and Earth (sequel 2)
10. Robots and Empire
11. Prelude to Foundation
12. Forward the Foundation
The reason I suggest this non-Chronological order of the books is because there are massive spoilers that won't mean anything if you read them in Chronological order, but will be very rewarding if you read them in this order - this also mostly matches the publication order, so things are less jarring stylistically - as Asimov's early writing is well plotted, but characters are contrived and emotionally dry cogs at best, but there's a jump in quality going into Caves of Steel (characters still contrived, but much more emotionally engaging), and another jump in quality going into Robots of Dawn, and IMO his last books are also his finest written, most organic (which is a bit ironic since these are prequels, and they literally end where the original Foundation begins, the end is already set in stone), and most emotionally engaging.
Also, read all these books before watching the Apple+/Sony series, because HOLY HELL does that spoil a lot from all over. If you watch just a few episodes, already some of the biggest twists from late in the series are spoiled. But it's not like the show runner (guy who wrote the Blade films, co-wrote the Dark Knight, and also show runner for Sandman) broke it on purpose, he kind of had to in order for things to make sense, because the books are incredibly tunnel visioned - by that I mean they focus mostly on the conversations of a select few, while a TV show sort of demands world building and a universe to exist in. But yeah, there are a lot of plot lines that (due to the tunnel vision) the reader won't know about until way later in the book series, but that the TV viewer will see as part of the wider world. Other than that, the characters in the Foundation TV series are quite a bit different, much more fleshed-out and 3 dimensional than their book counter-parts (minus certain ones from the prequels that didn't appear in the original books - because the prequel characters simply were way more fleshed out in the books than those in the original trilogy). So, if you read all the books, the TV series isn't just a reprint, but like a remake for film that re-vamps and reorganizes the information into a more chronological approach. One way to put it is that the show and the books are two different retellings of the same story which differ significantly in their style and structure - and while the books don't spoil the show, the show definitely spoils the books. But, I suggest putting the show off for similar reasons to why I suggest not to read the books chronologically, big spoilers.
I'll also note that the Imperial Court in the show plays a MUCH bigger role, and takes on the role of many of the other roles in the story, many of the scenes that take place in Anacreon, for example, take place on Trantor. But, what they do with the Emperor is very interesting, and really demonstrates the cause of stagnation in the Empire. Asimov was inspired by the stagnation of the Imperial court and the developments on the periphery leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire between the eras of Theodosius and Justinian, and beyond - except he sort of combined the Roman and Byzantine courts, while maintaining equivalents for the break-away powers led by other forces - such as the Sub-Roman Britons, the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Franks, Burgundians, Vandals, and Berbers - who all took command of various parts of the Empire, ruling as something like the Dominions of the British Empire to rebel states (some integrated in the Empire like the Franks, Visigoths, and Ostrogoths, others mostly independent, like the Vandals). This all appears in the show and books, but looking at it from different angles.
Before I even start to start to watch: "what a great subject" xx.
Much love from me.
More brains 🧠 needed.
Instant like or thumbs up from me.
Kind regards:11:11.
I hear there is a nice one in Orion.
I am waiting for the jump scare as I feel too tranquil after the first few minutes :)
The term "Paradise Planets" is utterly ridiculous because paradise is subjective. To some, endless cities with night clubs and restaurants they can visit each night is paradise, whilst to others, white sandy beaches and tropical palm trees, warm shallow seas and a perfectly controlled and predictable climate would be, and to each the opposite would be hell.
As said in the video…
I don't see why it would be ridiculous. Both solutions would be paradise planets, only to part of the population. As you say it's subjective, so anyone can use the term for whatever they want.
Or maybe you're reacting to the fact that "paradise" is often meant to be universal, like in the game Stellaris. Or, well, in religions...
Just bring paradise with you wherever you go and you’ll be all set 😊😊😊
Does anyone know if Isaac is still putting shorts out? I would like to resubscribe to notifications, but won't if shorts are in the mix
Happy Father's day Isaac.
"Your milage may vary."
L O L
One of your favorite sayings . . . and I'm growing fond of it as well.
this Earth is a paradise planet
Happy Fathers Day my guy!
Buddy you're pretty much in your beginning description you pretty much described where I live in Oregon. Which actually would be Baker County. At the base of the sister mountains, near the border between Oregon and Idaho. Honest to God I'm not lying, I swear the only thing missing here is some fairytale creatures like fairies and Dragons.
24:00 why not just genetically engineer crops to grow in the shallow seas?
I live in the painted desert and it's paradise to me.
My buddy who lives there with me sees it as more of a hell.
If humanity got another paradise planet, we'd just pave it over like this one.
Imagine a world whose paradise cycle was controlled by a machine. And the negative low cycle became so bad that the world-over ten thousand years, and after some revolution that cut them off from elsewhere in the galaxy-gains a philosophy of apocalypse that is constantly twisted every time it happens and records are passed down. A story following heroes trying to stop the planet ‘dying’, only to learn that it’s not dying, just following orders that it has followed before and will follow again long after they are gone-unless they do something that could permanently leave their world a desolate nightmare.
This is where I live ❤
A bridge, one might say, to Terabithia. With all that includes.
only two things to say:
paradise is a state of mind
can you read to me? do you do audiobooks? i want you to describe planets forever
time stamp 4:27 Oh Cool! Hobbiton with a sewer pipe. Indoor plumbing. Paradise! 4:35 Oh crap it's just a bridge.
Whack, like, drink and snack. Here we go!
Augmented reality will made habitability liveable. Effectively we'll have goggles that will allow us to navigate the external physical world, but it will add additional superfluous things to sitate our basic humanistic needs. Barren rocks will appear with moss etc, the sky will be blue, birds may appear that don't really exist etc. We'd be living a dream, like the matrix.
RIP Ms. Anita Gale. -Actually, I hope to meet her one day.
Today in Vermont :)