The Heist that Changed Computers Forever - Fact vs Fiction
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In this video, we explore the tech industry's evolution through the lens of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. We talk about the nuanced narratives behind their innovations and contributions.
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🔥 Is it MS-"DOS" or MS-D.O.S (I grew up in LATAM, where we definitely called it D.O.S).
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You say it m.s. “dos”
@@mbnyc5401 I was chuckling to myself when I heard him say MSD-OS . These kids today and yet feels like only yesterday I was booting a 286 with a floppy disk.
"I mean Picasso had a saying he said good artists copy great artists steal. And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." - Steve Jobs
The point is that there isn't much proof that Picasso actually said that.
People ascribe random quotes to appropriate people all the time, for instance, Napoleon and Sun Tzu
@@okene I think anyone who watched this video understand that. That’s pretty odd. What is his interpretation. I’m in the middle of my fifth deck, and this kid thinks that he knows the truth. I know people who have worked at Apple for decades and I was in Apple in 1998 I worked on many of the products and run the market. They had direct contact. I know people who worked at the advertise that executed their campaign. This kid is just reading stuff off the Internet and coming to his own conclusion with no real evidence. Yeah, he drove to Steve’s house and took, an iPhone video. Who cares.
Floppy is now "save-button-shaped-tool"? :D maaan I never thought I'd be this old so quickly.
After reading your comment I rewatched the video until I found that part. As I replayed it several times the last 30 years of my career flashed before me over and again. It feels like so much of today's world is a save-button-shaped-tool.
he has to be trolling. there's no way he thinks his audience doesn't know what a floppy is.
Personally felt attacked by that !!!
Em esss Dee oh ess 🤓
the feels
1:32 Steve Ballmer reads lines on the teleprompter after doing lines off the teleprompter 😬
GenZer calling MS-DOS "MS-D.O.S"...*facepalm*...
Apple’s first attempt to make a computer with a GUI was the Lisa (named after Steve Jobs’ child). It was “cheaper” than the Xerox Alto, but still unaffordable. And it failed in the market.
The books I have read way back say that there was a situation where Steve actually shouted “shut up”, twice, at an employee who explained to Bill Gates some technical things. I believe it was about high speed graphics.
Save button shaped tool. Classic.
Reportedly, a post-gen-x-er once came across an old floppy disk and said to her friend, "Look, someone 3-D printed a save icon!"
@@KarlBunker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That part hurt my feelings 😩😆
Guy's not even a real gate, what a fraud!
yeah! he's a toilet door.
"Save button shaped tool" is wild
Few people know the story of Microsoft bailing out Apple? Seriously? It was one of the most publicized stories. Microsoft basically had no choice but to do it because they were at risk of being broken up due to being seen as a monopoly.
Correct
OR, they felt sorry for their pathetic mis-managed competitor Apple?
Do you really think $125 million was a significant bailout for a multibillion dollar company?
Not a “bailout”. Much more detail than this simple word.
@@bobweiram6321 It's significant if Apple is near bankruptcy .
2:28 I realized I’m watching a kids show when you had to describe floppy disk as a “save button shaped tool”.
I feel old. LOL
Don’t worry. I used 5.25 and 3.5 floppy disks too.
I *still* use them. I've got a stack of DSHD 3.5" a foot to my right at this very moment.
Its funny how you say MS D.O.S
Hmmmmmmm
Also "Gooey" is what us oldtimers said instead of G.U.I.
Yeah, not the first video on technology history that he misses the mark due to not living it.
If anyone should be mad, it is Xerox/IBM. Apple/MS ripped them both.
@@shannons1886 now i know i'm old 😀
@@shannons1886 You are right.
Bill Gates looked like a high school kid
did you know that Billy the kid was fired from his first 'programmer' job because his errors were enormous and regular ?
Many things wromg with this version of history. One is: Microsoft didn’t “bale out” Apple. It was a small loan of $150M, enough to keep Apple goomg for about a day. That loan however gave customers confidence to buy Apple products, so it definitely did help. Another thimg was that Multiplan was never a hit on the Apple Ii, that was Visicalc, which Microsoft shamelessly copied to make Multiplan. What Microsoft did do was then develop Multiplan into Excel for the Macintosh. It was the first spreadsheet with a graphical interface. That made the Macintosh a good business tool and both Excel and Mac sold well because of it. Excel was later ported to Windows.
You’re quite right about most of that, certainly more than the videographer. And Multiplan was a shameless rip off of VisiCalc. But it actually had great success on the Mac and DOS and even a CP/M version that ran on a number of other platforms including the Commodore 64, Thompson, and Tandy. Excel came much later, following not after VisiCalc but after Lotus 1-2-3, which dominated the market long before Excel even existed. Excel and Word were the successors of Multiplan and MultiMate.
My concern, how do these founders feel when they see such videos? Won't they come for Slidebean? Or do they just smile and keep scrolling...imagine Elon seeing a video where he's been called a thief.
They are a media company now. Nobody knows their core products.
Do you really think billionaires care what some kid with a UA-cam channel has to say about them?
@@MSThalamus-gj9oi Yeah, I guess you're right.
Your filming and editing style is a true inspiration for everyone who's making video essays
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I still remember that movie "Pirates of Silicon valley" It also explains this. Great video!
A TV-Movie Classic!
Pirates of Silicon Valley was fraught with wild inaccuracies. Entertainment not information.
@@robertholtz Of course. It's entertainment. 👍
That was a very slick sponsored segment. Was really genuine, good job
Is there a part two? That didn’t really feel like a full video.
GUI is all Xerox/PARC work, both gates & jobs were thieves.
I worked with both CP/M on Mac II e & MS DOS.
Your Videos are amazing! how are you doing all this editing?
Showing your young age when you called MS DOS as MS D.O.S. 😂
A "save-button-shaped tool"? HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Can we have the origin story of Oracle?
The camera quality seems to have shot up, notice!
I'm really happy you broke down the truetrue. Apple has never invented anything, but was great at improving on others' work and understanding how to market it all. All these yrs later, I'm still amazed that Xerox didn't try to productize any of their innovation. Another innovative company, Commodore. The Amiga was beating the mac and windows in everyway for a long while. Sadly, they went bankrupt, company mismanagement.
Hello equipment you’re using, but the quality this video is 🔥
We love this stories, and we also miss Company forensics
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Sent from ipheon 😂, the Macintosh does have the cutest wee bum, tho.
Save button looking tool called floppy disk. 😂
“Its ACTUALLY pretty good.” Lol I’d be pissed if I were your sponsor. That statement alone really gets people excited to buy paper like. Lol
Microsoft made a more productive contribution to the information revolution that the world has witnessed. Apple makes fancy products and has its own influences.
Good. nicely explained
“Sent wiht ipheon,” why the misspelling?
Apple sued Microsoft because they found their code in some part of windows. They won the trial but by that time Microsoft already replaced the code so this had no real impact on their activities. They did have to pay damages though.
That is absolute BS. Complete and total fabrication. As someone who worked at Microsoft for 20 years, I can tell you that the law suit came about because overlapping windows were added to Windows 2.0. That law suit lingered in the courts until the bailout Microsoft handed Apple to keep them as a competitor to have some argument against being deemed a true monopoly. Part of that agreement required Apple to drop the look-and-feel law suit. I was literally there.
I recommend watching the 3 part documentary series called "Triumph of the Nerds".
Apple: “They stole from us! Let’s now get OpenAI for free and we are equal.”
HDR on video essay, ahh my eyes...
I'm really interested in the Apple v AliveCor patent litigation for SpO2 monitor that almost each fitness monitor has today in the world.
Apple took the windows from Xerox, Microsoft from Apple
Subject to market risk.
It is painful to watch your video. Audio is unbalanced a lot and the picture is burned. Either reduce shutter speed or put an ND filter on a camera.
Do one on gpt origin story.
All the original work for Transformer based AI was done at Google. Yet they lost it to Open AI
It's not like the Transformer paper was openly published... "Attention Is All You Need"...
Maybe it was not widely adopted inside products for a reason... and we will soon see the burst of the AI bubble
@@JMCV2 it was available for public download.
Something that Google must be kicking itself for.
@@JMCV2see that’s the funny part : people think this is a bubble.
This is something else.
This is something weaker and pettier.
@Darth_Bateman I agree that AI is overhyped but it is undeniably very useful. It does greatly boost productivity and it obsoletes many old forms of getting things done
Love it.
Bill didn't rob anyone except Kildall who left the keys to the castle for anybody to take.
I think Lisa was first as proof of concept then Macintosh came later
Frankly, at this stage it feels like there are no heroes, and Microsoft is a villain.
Atleast Apple got it's payback with the iPhone when Microsoft flopped hard with their windows OS phones
And today, Microsoft still dominates Apple:
Windows
Windows Server
Office
Azure cloud computing
XBox
Take away iPhone from Apple, and there's *nothing* *left* .
@@DerekDavis213 such a childish comment.
Microsoft is ahead in cloud computing (Azure) and also AI with their OpenAI partnership.
Apple is still ahead with their integrated software on the iphone and macbook for devices.
The competition is just different now.
Apple makes their own chips, which will compete with Nvidia in a couple of years.
@@jefitoo also, Xbox has being struggling for a while now in terms of console sales and game development. That's the reason Windows has being on a buying spree of game publishers.
@@DerekDavis213 the problem with this line of thought is it's purely hypothetical I.e "remove iphone...."
The reality is a majority of the world now relies on their smartphones to do almost everything, from entertainment, to alarms, to cameras etc.
And the reality is a big portion of that use iphones and apple products
@@jefitoo Mac has a tiny and pathetic 10 percent market share. The whole world prefers Windows, and for many good reasons.
My parents had Apple][e. I programmed a tie fight roll over and explode in machine language…lol….was….quite a challenge. I didn’t know english, had a few photocopied sheets on how it kind of worked. Took me a full year to figure it out. I was 12years old.
the real heist was the theft from xerox
Real Madrid - Florentino Pérez!
I realize this was a fast paced format as perceived by someone who was not alive when these events transpired but a LOT of this explanation is just wrong via oversimplification. Also PARC was itself stolen by Xerox. It was ARC before and actually originated at SRI.
Mac has a tiny 10% market share today. Windows rules the world.
You cannot blame Bill Gates for that .
Uhhh there are a few uncompetitive practices that would make you think you could blame Mr Gates
Didn't they all boost their ideas for Xerox?
Sorry but this really overstating the importance of GUI to Apples marketshare.
Apple didn't loose to IBM, it lost to PC-clones of the IBM PC that which shared campatible software running ms-dos or CP-m, Later CP-m versions even became crossplatform compatible with ms-dos.
The platform could be run on cheaper hardware and had a much more diverse software eco-system.
Macintosh was to expensive to justify moving from tried and true Apple][ running visicalc or IBM PCs running Lotus 123.
Windows didn't require speciality hardware for its OS, when people was ready to move onto graphical desktops, they just bought the software.
Berkshire had and has a lot of Apple Stock. Even Buffet saying that he does not invest in what he does not understand. At this time it seems there was an extremely strong influence on him from Bill Gates. Also a big part of his inheritance would have gone to the Gates foundation. Warren Buffet has made some changes re inheritance. Nevertheless there is the question on Microsofts influence on Apple?
Reminder that Bill was on "the list" for the l**ita express.
Several times and he spoke highly of the service 😳
2:30 I’m sure he mispronounces thing and makes comments like this to increase engagement but I think it’s really silly.
Here at 50s ago 😌
The onewheel! This was made by a different creator and thers even a video on youtube about him showcasing it, and then the onewheel team came in and stole the scene. But it didnt end up good
Good one
Apple got the idea for GUI from Zerox
Wow, it's almost like you watched the video! 🙄
You mean STOLE the gui from Xerox PARC.
@@DerekDavis213You mean paid $100 million in stock for it.
In 1981 (I think) dollars.
@@av_oid worthless stock, back in those days
This video is such a fumbled mess, it could be about how GUI's came to be. Or it could be about a cow and a boy. I am not sure.
they are both criminal thieves....sorry...i meant visionaries.
Goo - E
Thanks bruv
um Apple steal, and constantly steal, they are the worst patent trolls of all time aswell.
Nice shirt
M.S D.O.S and GUI make my ears bleed.
Look at the IBM and MS OS2 BS.
but the truth is microsoft never saved apple apple is thriving in it's own way little by little
microsoft only have to lend apple with $100 million loan because to prevent any black clash from the authority and keep the competition going so that microsoft won't be labeled as a monopoly
Video was Fun, but Mis-Lead on a few things,
and Ms-Dos.... it's "DOSss" a LOT of stuff in this Video you didnt look up Pronunciations of..
But You Highlighted Jobs Adopted Parents House Multiple Times....
Is it possible for you to make future videos without you refering to yourself as a founder.
lol, why not?
Now in upcoming days satya nadella to sam
NOT a lie
Apple, the best copycats & marketing folks in the game. Shadiest in the game. Their best invention was how to keeping taking fan's money :) I also was a fan back in the day, smartest thing they ever did was dump their own OS and smack a skin on Unix, that was my era. They lost me as a customer when they didn't honor my battery issues on a brand new laptop. Then they lost my respect when they became a full-on consumer electronics company and no longer a computer platform artists and servers. Today you can say they were smart about decisions, but mainly the shareholders would be the ones saying it. The USA is kinda the only country without lawsuits against them, the EU keeps threatening to kick them out of Europe for their shady shenanigans.
What?
There is one tiny thing you omitted, the reason why Microsoft is now 10 times the size of Apple. Microsoft managed to get with IBM. Since it went on IBM it had to be compatible with anything and everything, and as such, throughout the 90's Microsoft became the one to beat, slaughtering Mac and pushing it to the fringes of the computer world. Only people obsessed with Macs bought Macs. Also, Mac's weren't that reliable ether contrary to popular belief, leading to a lot of people to switch to PC's. If it wasn't for Apple literally stealing everything it made after the iMac, Apple would probably not be in business today.
Among other dubious statements, although MS is bigger than Apple, it's far less than a 10X difference. MS has a $3 trillion market cap and Apple's is $2.7 trillion.
@@KarlBunker That's now, not back in the late 90s early 2000's. But looking at what I wrong I should have emphasized that.
@@jhmcd2 Yeah; you should have looked up the definition of the phrase "is now." It's a tough one, and easy to get wrong.
@@KarlBunker I was planning on saying something else and didn't review it first. But if you're going to be arrogant about it.
@@jhmcd2 Yes, terribly arrogant of me to point out that you said something hugely incorrect, and that your subsequent excuse was BS. I'm a bad person. 🤪
Claiming 1st
Satan be waitin.... BIllyBoy
i dont know what are you talking about, and i think you also dont know
wasted my 9:30 minutes
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