I don't know. It didn't look like he landed that dismount within the guidelines. He had to turn, due to that, I feel like the original call was correct.
He already had those execution errors deducted from his score, it has nothing to do with wether or not it was an actual dismount. And when you request to change the score you can only change the difficulty score, which was what changed for him. So yes, it was very sloppy everyone saw it and thats why his score was so low even w the dismount credited lmao
Personally I think they shouldn’t have excluded his dismount when scoring him but instead subtract points from the execution because it was pretty sloppy and flawed.
He did but falling off and a performed dismount is very different while falling he improvised to try make it work as a dismount. He was given very little points for it bc of how bad it was but they decided it a dismount
" guys guys, hes not flying hes falling with style!" "Idk woody that seemed like flying to me" Or something like that i havent seen tbe first toy story in a while
@Rbandz321 the execution was bad but they cut the points for his dismount which was apprantely within guidelines. Like youtuber said " controversial " is a good word for this
Agreed. I feel like this should be treated as the equivalent of when my teachers would give 0.25 credit on a 1 point question for “wrong, but impressive attempt at bsing.”
@@matthewjamesmjw4172 In performative arts/sports, it DOES matter. If you mess up your routine, you are supposed to make it look like you MEANT to do that. Confidence is key. He did fall, but he tried to correct himself, and partially succeeded before landing.
@@IzzyKawaiichi Notice how that's not intention. That's how it looked to you. Him intending or not intending to dismount in that moment is irrelevant. What matters is what actually occurred versus what he should have done. It's the movements of his body that matter - as they are the only thing that are judged.
@@ep6808I was just coming here to say this. Let’s not even start with the heartbreaking 2018 winter games where Evgenia lost due to Zagitova backloading her skills. I am so glad they removed that ridiculous bonus, it encourages dangerous skating.
Well as someone who doesnt do gymnastic i think they should deduct some points for making a mistake...even if it was a really good recovery he still made a mistake...sooo
Maybe at the high school level sure, but this is the Olympics. These are the cream of the crop of human ability, you can not be landing like that at that level of competition.
I'm less curious about the "Thank You" and more curious about the "partially count" and "I did a lot of gymnastics...". Elements don't partially count in gymnastics. You either get credit for the full skill with appropriate deductions taken off, or you don't get credit for the skill at all. A gymnast should know this. However, maybe there is a difference between a gymnast and someone who "did a lot of gymnastics".
While I think they should give him partial credit for the dismount, the look on Uchimura's face makes it pretty clear he was not happy with how he performed.
@@archiraxx I don't know who says "yeah no shit" to strangers unless my intention is to be rude lmao. But the original commenter was giving their opinion and they seemed really upset just with the general observation in the second half .
He performed a dismount according to the rules but, he forced it because he messed up his second to last hand/arm placment causing him to buckle and start falling but he did manage to get his other hand on the horse and fall into a dismount. From what i understand his dismount got an abysmal score but the rest of his routine was enough for 2nd place. What i find crazy is that 0.7 points was all that separated the top 3 runer ups.
@@nepty5920 So all coaches should use status to cheat the system when their athlete wasn’t deserving of more points in that instance? I used to do competitive obstacle course racing, and one time a girls mother basically did that to me and I lost because of it. That shit sucks, and the mom did that at most of the competitions her daughters competed in and it just made her look crazy, it didn’t make her look like she was “advocating for her daughters”
That’s what happened, they added the dismount to his original score but with the error deductions still making it a low score but pushing him onto the podium
That's wasn't a dismount, that was, in the words of buzz lightyear, falling with style. He didn't land in line with his last hand placement, nor was he facing the long side of the horse.
@TheRobotello well a good few of us know the sport well. I was a competitive gymnast then a coach then a judge so yah I'd say I understand how it works.
Phenomenal gymnast, yes, but even he can make mistakes, and that was a sloppy dismount. The judges' initial ruling was accurate, in my opinion. EDIT: I know it still technically counts as a dismount and amended my opinion later on in the comments.
Same here. I don't know anything about gymnastics, other than what I've learned from this channel, but the dismount looked poorly controlled and sloppy. They should've kept the original score.
@@saltycrunch they still had to grant points for the dismount, even with all the correct penalizations he still gets points unless it's just straight up terrible, which his wasn't, he still got the rotations and no fall so there is enough to be considered a dismount
that wasn't a dismount, that was a controlled fall. there's no way someone as good as him would purposely dismount that sloppy. no way that's worth 2nd place
Define a dismount, it's literally just getting off something, there are rules in place which define it, and after second evaluation it was deemed a dismount.
And it’s because it’s someone like him that he was able to make a fall look good enough to be a dismount though maybe they should I subtract the point though I’m not to well-versed in the rules
@@coolsguy5225 Well thats awesome, but i wasn't talking about your definition of dismount. Irishrebels defintion doesn't matter nor does the person who posted the video. Its up to the judges.
Depending on how old and how dedicated you are, you can get there. But you'll have to be very deliberate, and it will take years of small steps on the way to that level of skill. If you can learn to enjoy the process, you don't have to just daydream about that.
He fell. That wasnt a dismount. He didnt land in any way that resembles the rules for a dismount. They were right to not score him on a dismount when there really wasnt one in any technical way.
I want a deeper dive into this from both sides of the "debate" Also why is there a debate? There is video recording and there are rules. It should be easy for the judges to be consistent in their scores and not as vastly varied as this one turned out to be.
The rules are vague and open to interpretation, if it says he has to land facing a specific point to count, if you take a computer and he is 5 degrees the wrong way should you count? 99.99% of all athletes will not receive credit if that's the case because it's nearly impossible to be that precise, so you need tolerance, but since you can't measure properly that tolerance can't be written, it needs to be interpreted, and that allows that everything can be counted, and everything can be discounted, it really depends on the judges, and that's how every single sport with judges rating athletes work, from surf to boxing, from gymnastics to synchronized swimming, etc... Every sport with judges rating athletes are EXTREMELY subjective.
they can't accept that he failed for that routine. wherever angle it may be, it really has the bad routine and a bad landing. he was the only doing it, noone should be blame except himself.
Count it, but it looks so sloppy. Execution errors all around. It looks like he half fell off the horse. I keep watching and it looks like he technically fulfilled the requirements for the dismount, just not very well.
That was obviously a F up that he sold! Idk how that should have effected his score? I mean he was able to sell an F up as a shitty dismount so maybe he deserved the benefit of the doubt, but on the other hand, it was an epic fail so... 🤷
Sorry but I'm with the judges first call. That did not look like he even intended to come off the horse and just made the best of it without completely falling.
What I think a lot of people don’t understand is that they did count his dismount with deductions in his final score. I’m seeing a lot of comments about how they should have counted the dismount but with error deductions which is what they ended up doing. The whole controversy was because the judges didn’t count the dismount in the first place and so when it was changed, they counted the dismount but with the error deductions making his score go up because it was a technical dismount.
It’s still a dismount. It was sloppy but he did all the things for it to be considered one. Plus he didn’t fall. So it is considered a dismount. Didn’t know why they just didn’t take points off his execution though
Personally in my professional opinion having carefully meditated in the multitude of factors invilved and after thorough and meticulous analysis of the incident and all of the possible ramifications it is my conclusion that I know exactly jack shit about gymnastics and therefore don't have an opinion.
I'm no gymnist but I like seeing Japan beat Europe because of how salty they get when losing at any competitive sport. Such salt lasts several months after so it is known as the gift that keeps on giving
I've always felt he should have gotten credit for the dismount but with lots of execution errors
EXACTLY
I don't know. It didn't look like he landed that dismount within the guidelines. He had to turn, due to that, I feel like the original call was correct.
It looked like he slipped, and recovered into a dismount
You would be surprised how many people say that when it comes to sports like gymnastics, cheer, dance whatever.
He already had those execution errors deducted from his score, it has nothing to do with wether or not it was an actual dismount. And when you request to change the score you can only change the difficulty score, which was what changed for him. So yes, it was very sloppy everyone saw it and thats why his score was so low even w the dismount credited lmao
Personally I think they shouldn’t have excluded his dismount when scoring him but instead subtract points from the execution because it was pretty sloppy and flawed.
They did, that's why he got a low score even with counting the dismount
When I first saw it I thought he just fell off.
It looked like he was spinning out of control and when he dismounted, or something like a forced dismount
Right he clearly fell
@@submarinemagnet7965 odd cus his rountine ended at the exact time of this forced dismount..
As someone who has no idea what they’re looking at, it looked like he fell off
He did but falling off and a performed dismount is very different while falling he improvised to try make it work as a dismount. He was given very little points for it bc of how bad it was but they decided it a dismount
I don't know man, I think he flew upwards personally
@@astrosalty2656 I think falling gracefully is still falling
@@beneachus4901"Falling with style." Woody/Buzz Lightyear
Agreed
to me, someone who has no idea how gymnastic scoring works, it just looks like he fell, but he fell with ✨️style✨️
We not flying we’re falling with style
What is a dismount if not falling in style?
I say that as sb barely able to do a cartwheel tho
" guys guys, hes not flying hes falling with style!"
"Idk woody that seemed like flying to me"
Or something like that i havent seen tbe first toy story in a while
❤❤❤
He had that BUZZ in em
I'm not a gymnast but that dismount definitely looked like he fell and tried to recover
Exactly what happened, they were trying to argue he should still get credit
@Rbandz321 the execution was bad but they cut the points for his dismount which was apprantely within guidelines. Like youtuber said " controversial " is a good word for this
That's literally what happened... why are there so many comments saying the same thing 😭
That’s not the point 🙄
@@josiahjrayyet it is
To be fair,this dismount looked more like he fell and tried to improvise that fall into a failed dismount.
Intentions don't really mater tho in this context
Agreed.
I feel like this should be treated as the equivalent of when my teachers would give 0.25 credit on a 1 point question for “wrong, but impressive attempt at bsing.”
@@StarWarsomania Lol true
@@matthewjamesmjw4172 In performative arts/sports, it DOES matter. If you mess up your routine, you are supposed to make it look like you MEANT to do that. Confidence is key. He did fall, but he tried to correct himself, and partially succeeded before landing.
@@IzzyKawaiichi Notice how that's not intention. That's how it looked to you. Him intending or not intending to dismount in that moment is irrelevant. What matters is what actually occurred versus what he should have done. It's the movements of his body that matter - as they are the only thing that are judged.
I swear olympic gymnasts have the most annoying and goofiest rules imagineable.
Second only to figure skaters, who can't even dispute their scores at all 🙃
Judges and refs will always make shitty calls
Apparently, you don't follow Olympic boxing. 😵
@@CrispyOkra so corrupt its not longer an Olympic sport
@@ep6808I was just coming here to say this. Let’s not even start with the heartbreaking 2018 winter games where Evgenia lost due to Zagitova backloading her skills. I am so glad they removed that ridiculous bonus, it encourages dangerous skating.
Looking at how the man almost fell and could've landed really ugly yet managed to save himself does deserve some credit.
gotta be the most real take I’ve seen. It probably doesn’t apply to the sports rules and all but I do agree
Exactly, I'm over here just like: Well, idk what's going on but I'm just glad he didn't break his skull or a limb.
Well as someone who doesnt do gymnastic i think they should deduct some points for making a mistake...even if it was a really good recovery he still made a mistake...sooo
Maybe at the high school level sure, but this is the Olympics. These are the cream of the crop of human ability, you can not be landing like that at that level of competition.
its like most sports leagues and especially judges screw people over so much its nice to see them give someone a break
I think because it wasn't controlled, it should partially count.
Thank you everyone. I did a lot of gymnastics, so I'm not just talking out my neck.
@@joshuas3897 yeah lol curious as well
@@joshuas3897 lmao
He's talking about the likes
I'm less curious about the "Thank You" and more curious about the "partially count" and "I did a lot of gymnastics...".
Elements don't partially count in gymnastics. You either get credit for the full skill with appropriate deductions taken off, or you don't get credit for the skill at all. A gymnast should know this. However, maybe there is a difference between a gymnast and someone who "did a lot of gymnastics".
@@matthewhines9787 ha, that last sentence is pointed and I love it.
While I think they should give him partial credit for the dismount, the look on Uchimura's face makes it pretty clear he was not happy with how he performed.
yeah no shit
@@gingermclovin why are you rude
@@gingermclovin jeez, those lonely balls seem to be loading lots of stress
@@satirics7701 that's probably how they talk, and their intentions wasn't to become rude or anything that's considered bad.
@@archiraxx I don't know who says "yeah no shit" to strangers unless my intention is to be rude lmao. But the original commenter was giving their opinion and they seemed really upset just with the general observation in the second half .
He performed a dismount according to the rules but, he forced it because he messed up his second to last hand/arm placment causing him to buckle and start falling but he did manage to get his other hand on the horse and fall into a dismount.
From what i understand his dismount got an abysmal score but the rest of his routine was enough for 2nd place.
What i find crazy is that 0.7 points was all that separated the top 3 runer ups.
He didn’t fall facing the long side of the horse
@@JollyGiuseppe he did, he wasnt right in front of either but he was loooking at it, so facing it
@@TheSabaton1 facing the horse itself is not facing the long side
It's obviously a tough one but regardless you can see how hard Kohei tried to save it. What a gymnast
Way to fight for your athlete coach!
Yeah respect to the coach
True.
He was kind of using the athletes status to get the athlete ahead even though that dismount just looked like he fell.
@@iflykayaas any coach should
@@nepty5920 So all coaches should use status to cheat the system when their athlete wasn’t deserving of more points in that instance? I used to do competitive obstacle course racing, and one time a girls mother basically did that to me and I lost because of it. That shit sucks, and the mom did that at most of the competitions her daughters competed in and it just made her look crazy, it didn’t make her look like she was “advocating for her daughters”
I’m no gymnast expert but to my eyes that dismount looked sloppy as hell
Because that wasn't a dismount.
To be fair, it didn't look like an intended dismount, it looked like a sweet recovery.
Some say he never dismounted, and is still on that horse to this very day...
Honestly feel like he shouldve gotten some points, but with a lot of error deduction
That’s what happened, they added the dismount to his original score but with the error deductions still making it a low score but pushing him onto the podium
@@lobbythelobstertv5161 after the dispute though
@@SolitaryLark that's cause they saw the video again and it matched the criteria of dismount
So even if sloppy he shoulg be given points
I'm not a gymnast but to my untrained eye it looks very sloppy ans like an accident, and I can understand why they chose not to give him the points.
But really you dont know anything about it do you
@@gothic2fanHUN can you read?
@@ptoktedia9011 he can but he doesn't understand
@@gothic2fanHUN do YOU understand? Are you an Olympic gymnast? Probably not you fat shut In
They chose not to Deduce but they literally DIDN'T GIVE HIM POINTS!
That is a very Very bad thing, for what should be a Sloppy, not wrong, dismount.
He totally fell off then played it off as a dismount. That was a horrible decision to give him “the benefit of the doubt”
Truly
Exactly.
He got lucky. That wasn’t a dismount. Plain and simple.
That's wasn't a dismount, that was, in the words of buzz lightyear, falling with style. He didn't land in line with his last hand placement, nor was he facing the long side of the horse.
Lol
Everyone in the comments apparently knows the rules so well
Not according to the judges. Lmao.
Kachow
@TheRobotello well a good few of us know the sport well. I was a competitive gymnast then a coach then a judge so yah I'd say I understand how it works.
Phenomenal gymnast, yes, but even he can make mistakes, and that was a sloppy dismount. The judges' initial ruling was accurate, in my opinion.
EDIT: I know it still technically counts as a dismount and amended my opinion later on in the comments.
I also agree
I 3rd that
Same here. I don't know anything about gymnastics, other than what I've learned from this channel, but the dismount looked poorly controlled and sloppy. They should've kept the original score.
His dismount didn't break any rules. It was sloppy though
@@saltycrunch they still had to grant points for the dismount, even with all the correct penalizations he still gets points unless it's just straight up terrible, which his wasn't, he still got the rotations and no fall so there is enough to be considered a dismount
that wasn't a dismount, that was a controlled fall. there's no way someone as good as him would purposely dismount that sloppy. no way that's worth 2nd place
Define a dismount, it's literally just getting off something, there are rules in place which define it, and after second evaluation it was deemed a dismount.
And it’s because it’s someone like him that he was able to make a fall look good enough to be a dismount though maybe they should I subtract the point though I’m not to well-versed in the rules
@@lvl30dragonmy definition and OP's definition of dismount is intentionally getting off the pommel horse. a fall is not intentional
@@coolsguy5225 Well thats awesome, but i wasn't talking about your definition of dismount. Irishrebels defintion doesn't matter nor does the person who posted the video. Its up to the judges.
@@lvl30dragon you asked to define dismount. peoples definition of what's a dismount and what's not is different
As somebody who doesn't know gymnastics it just looks like he slipped off and got lucky by landing on his feet
Oh, he definitely slipped off, but he also definitely wasn't just "lucky" to land on his feet. It took effort to try to save that and actually land.
@@carolinamansur113truee, normal people with no training wouldn’t ever have that luck bc that’s not luck it’s his skill that saved it.
I mean, it's an awful dismount, but it is a dismount.
He looked like he lost balance and fell. The judges' reaction was appropriate
I'm not a gymnast... But that dismount was an obvious woopsie lol
But he can save his routine while others can’t lol
Am I the only one who daydreams about myself doing amazing stuff like this😭
Definitely not 😂
Trust me, I did it all the time when I was little. To the point I had to get into gymnastics class and master numerous tumbling skills.
Depending on how old and how dedicated you are, you can get there.
But you'll have to be very deliberate, and it will take years of small steps on the way to that level of skill.
If you can learn to enjoy the process, you don't have to just daydream about that.
@@LinkEX You're so sweet! I'm already a teenager though, it's not likely I'll be able to develop the skills for something awesome like this.
These people train since very young age
when the judges get judged
It looks like he fell off the horse but clutched it for the dismount
He fell. That wasnt a dismount. He didnt land in any way that resembles the rules for a dismount. They were right to not score him on a dismount when there really wasnt one in any technical way.
Cope
Read the rules. He did meet most of them.
@@swiftiexx526 but not all
@@swiftiexx526most, doesn’t count.
@@swiftiexx526 i think for it to count you have to meet all the requirements...
That wasn’t a dismount, that was falling with style
Man really put Ukraine in the title for the views
smh u right
Thank you! Like ... wth? 🥴
I mean Ukrainians are great gymnasts.
Since he went to second place that knocks Ukraine into 4th and off the podium. He’s right though
@@Kali_0303 but he only put #Ukraine not Japan or any other country he was up against
I’m with the judges that was not a full dismount. It was akin to falling off beam. He should not have gotten credit
All of the scores 0.01 point difference…
And then there is China 💀 (4 points ahead of everyone else)
That wasn’t a dismount. He fell and then tried to recover.
No way that dismount deserved second place...
Looks like he slipped but recovered gracefully
He made the fall look good, but he still definitely fell
i know nothing about gymnastics but to me it just looks like he fell off and saved the landing
I want a deeper dive into this from both sides of the "debate"
Also why is there a debate? There is video recording and there are rules. It should be easy for the judges to be consistent in their scores and not as vastly varied as this one turned out to be.
The rules are vague and open to interpretation, if it says he has to land facing a specific point to count, if you take a computer and he is 5 degrees the wrong way should you count? 99.99% of all athletes will not receive credit if that's the case because it's nearly impossible to be that precise, so you need tolerance, but since you can't measure properly that tolerance can't be written, it needs to be interpreted, and that allows that everything can be counted, and everything can be discounted, it really depends on the judges, and that's how every single sport with judges rating athletes work, from surf to boxing, from gymnastics to synchronized swimming, etc... Every sport with judges rating athletes are EXTREMELY subjective.
@Pedro Thevenard Also politics. Think of the morale boost for Ukraine to be at the top.
“I WILL DO PAPERWORK FOR THIS!”😂
they can't accept that he failed for that routine. wherever angle it may be, it really has the bad routine and a bad landing. he was the only doing it, noone should be blame except himself.
He looks like he fell and tried to make it count
He fell and and the coach made it count*
Unless is against the rules the coach is right
As they say technically right is the best kind of right
It straight up looks like he slipped off from the first angle
I mean regardless of how it fit the rules, it was really sloppy, uncontrolled, and looked like an accident. Give him some points, but not a lot.
to be fair it kinda looks like a failed dismount at first glance
wow. imagine being so good, when you obviously mess up you still win.
Technically it seems like a valid discount, but he definitely messed up and did his best to recover as he fell of the horse.
Like Jordan, Lebron,Louganis,Williams,Messi, Ronaldo never got bias for greatness.
He had a coach that knew how to appeal.
Count it, but it looks so sloppy. Execution errors all around. It looks like he half fell off the horse. I keep watching and it looks like he technically fulfilled the requirements for the dismount, just not very well.
I don’t know shit about gymnastics, but it looks more like he screwed up, stumbled/fell, and saved himself.
He obviously fell and decided to call it a dismount
Yeah almost seems like that was the point of the video
I mean he clearly messed up, but it looks like he salvaged it. Should definitely get partial credit imo
That was obviously a F up that he sold! Idk how that should have effected his score? I mean he was able to sell an F up as a shitty dismount so maybe he deserved the benefit of the doubt, but on the other hand, it was an epic fail so... 🤷
Sorry but I'm with the judges first call. That did not look like he even intended to come off the horse and just made the best of it without completely falling.
You don't know the scoring rules so stfu
@@oldbot64 I know that he didn't mean to come off the horse and should have been penalized for it. So eat a dick bitch.
@@Druid_Plow yeah but that doesnt mean what you said is worth a dime girl
@@oldbot64 actually that's exactly what it means, work on your reading comprehension retard.
Watching all these gymnastics rules makes me hate the judges so much
What I think a lot of people don’t understand is that they did count his dismount with deductions in his final score. I’m seeing a lot of comments about how they should have counted the dismount but with error deductions which is what they ended up doing. The whole controversy was because the judges didn’t count the dismount in the first place and so when it was changed, they counted the dismount but with the error deductions making his score go up because it was a technical dismount.
I mean it looked kinda janky, almost like he slipped and tried to improvise with it
That's called a good coach with a good eye
His dismount was obviously an improvised slip up save.
That's not a dismount. It's a sloppy fall off the apparatus and he put his hands up at the end.
Sloppy fall but stuck the landing and made it look good
It’s still a dismount. It was sloppy but he did all the things for it to be considered one. Plus he didn’t fall. So it is considered a dismount. Didn’t know why they just didn’t take points off his execution though
You can see how barely no one in the comments know how scoring in artistic gymnastics work lmao
Personally, I think I should wandered how the hell did I get here
honestly same
Terrible dismount. It looks like he messed up and tried to save it
It looks like he slipped on that dismount
He clearly fell, it's not a dismount if you fell
Ukraine when this happened:👁️👄👁️
he clearly lost control completely, but the fact that he actually managed to regain it is actually insane
Give his coach props. He went in for him
I mean it looked messed up but shouldn't have hurt him as badly as it did. Four places down? For the fucking dismount?
Eh? Which also means that he scored pretty high than others cuz it’s still 4th place and others had their dismount counted
People named „Kohei“ are basically always incredibly gifted with talent
He definitely messed up the dismount but im glad they gave him the benefit of the doubt
"When in doubt, flat out" the gymnast way
Personally in my professional opinion having carefully meditated in the multitude of factors invilved and after thorough and meticulous analysis of the incident and all of the possible ramifications it is my conclusion that I know exactly jack shit about gymnastics and therefore don't have an opinion.
It was a sloppy dismount but it was a dismount
That was a horrible dismount
Kinda looks like he didn’t intend to dismount
gymnastics is so uptight with the rules it makes it boring
Honestly it looks like a slip up and he recovered in the dismount
Ok no even I could see the dismount was in line with the rules.
Looked sloppy af like he had something else planned but then messed up.
The judges were right
No they weren't, a dismount is a dismount
They werent, of course its not a good dismount but just score it low not with a 0 since its still a dismount per rule
@@arzfan29 Oh okay, so if he just fell off and broke his neck, he should get full points? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why da heck can you earn 0.001 of a point
I mean he did land facing the other direction and had to turn with half step to face the proper direction so I'd definitely ding him for that.
I mean, if you dismounted, he dismounted
Honestly when you’re the goat of your sport, I think you’ve earned the benefit of the doubt at least once
I'm no gymnast, but it looks like he falls off to me.
no matter what, that's a good coach.
I mean he definitely dismounted, it was rough but definitely still a dismount.
He fell off lol😂 he saved it but idk how scoring works
Idk wth was going on, but that dismount looked accidental to me. Like a "wholly shit I cleared that" moment lol
Nah he missed the dismount , it was sloppy and uncontrolled and the jduges decision is good
He was the best , this wasn’t his best
I mean I don't know jack about this but he did look like he dismounted, just didn't do it properly
That “dismount” was more of a fall and stumble
Idk man but bros hair is wonderful
I'm no gymnist but I like seeing Japan beat Europe because of how salty they get when losing at any competitive sport. Such salt lasts several months after so it is known as the gift that keeps on giving
It looked like he fucked up and just happened to land on his feet
Idk, it looked like he fell off
Still a dismount, whether you fall off or not
@@largestbrain true but less points makes sence since it looked really scuffed
I was under the impression that a dismount was something you did on purpose, rather than missing with your hand and falling off the damn thing LOL