Ha,ha. That is what you get for not abandoning Sonos. So glad I found you,as you connected me to Diane Bisch. Before I met you on UA-cam, I had to settle for Moog Synth from ELP, and UA-cam videos of Anna Lapwood playing Interstellar at midnight in Royal Albert Hall. I hate interstellar as much as Sonos.
As a SONOS user, I was highly anticipating their arrival for almost three years. I pre-bought them at Amazon and they were shipped a month later when they were first in stock.
You are so right about bricking their older products. My first speaker was a Play 5. I can no longer use my phone or Apple watch to play music using airplay. I called tech support 3 times, and it worked for a few hours before reverting back to a brick. Oh, but they will give me 15% off for a new one. Shady business practices.
@@scientificaudiophileFind out whose stock holdings increased the most from the new issue, and who was issued founders shares, these are the people you should picket, just run an emf noise machine outside their homes so none of their own gear works at all. 😅
I am a fan of good audio, but I am also a fan of honesty, and I must say that you my good sir have brought honesty to the for. Thank you for a great video.
I knew going into it that there was no Sonos app wi-fi capability. I think they sound all right, but I agree with several others here that headphones are very subjective. We all have different things we're looking for. My Bluetooth connection has never dropped, and although the bass is not where I would like it to be, the highs and mids come through well and the soundstage is good. However, I agree the app still needs serious serious work and there's a lot they can do with firmware updates. I have faith they'll come back. I sure hope so. As a totally blind person I don't think any other company has an app that works well and as seemlessly as the Sonos app before they bricked it.
I have two family members heavily invested in the Sonos whole home system KoolAid-aid - oops, I mean incredibly user friendly software app infrastructure- and have spent the last several years walking on eggs trying to be diplomatic in regards my impressions of the audio quality. (Does that hint at what those might be?). Since the system’s singular appeal I can see is the admittedly convenient control via the app, I can only hope for the sake of folks who’ve been awaiting a series of long rumoured product upgrades that this doesn’t foreshadow the company’s direction moving forward.
To be honest I don't really rate any of these bluetooth headphones, apps and codecs are messy and it's hard (and expensive) to get ones that sound decent. Why did we lose the 3.5mm adaptor again?
Thanks for this video. Headphones are definitely subjective. I confess that I am a Sonos fan. Maybe I don't drink the kool-aid, but I definitely like the sound. I got these headphones knowing the lacking Wi-Fi streaming capabilities. Still, they are cheaper than the airpods. They are much lighter. 😊 And at least for me, they fit well.
They must be listening to their accountants rather than their customers. It's like integrated amplifiers with a remote that controls only the volume or looks like it's from the 80's. What's up with that?
If they extend the SWAP feature to actually work with more of the speakers (right now it is the TV, not the soundbar itself that drives the swap e.g. no SONOS radio), that would make me feel that this is a sonos product. But, these features can and should be firmware fixed, otherwise - IBM, and I am out!
Thank you! I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of these, but after listening to your review, I'll opt for something else...Bose perhaps. AND btw, I HATE the new Sonos app!!!!!!!
Why is so nice losing its way they’re like the number one speaker company in the world? What is the way they should be going? And no, I don’t own any other products.
Sounds like most American companies. Make a meh product in the cheapest manufacturing country possible. And try and use your name and history to try and suck as much profit out of it as possible. Probably cost 50.00 to make.
I appreciate your review but I feel like it was harder to trust your opinion when you were reading a script word for word. Try to be more natural with your audience. There’s no point of sitting in front of a camera reading a script off to the side of the camera. It’s about as disappointing as the Sonos ace headphones.
The disaster that is people winging their content has sank many a channel. A script ensures all the points they want to make are made, concise, and timely. They have to write the script, after all. To this commenters point, looking off to the side is distracting to a light degree. A think a hardware investment like one of those reflective teleprompter boxes (the camera sits behind a one way reflective glass at a 45 degree angle reflecting a script to your eyes, meaning you look at the camera while also reading the script) would be a great purchase and useful for your content style.
@@scientificaudiophile in the meantime, you could cut to B-roll a bit more to hide those moments but beware the rapid fire cuts as they can become overstimulating. Best of luck to the future of your channel!
@HardLuckPete the best thing about S/A is that he cuts to the chase and he KNOWS his shit. And he does objective/subjective. There are tons of reviewers out there who have fantastic production and editing - but are sponsored frauds, audio-snake-oil believers, or pretentious yet uneducated.
So I use Sonos but the recent software/app updates pretty much nixed my system with having a few gen 2 connects. I also have Heos. The recent software update for me worked pretty well. Integrating all my gen 1 legacy speakers and works with pretty well. So leaning more towards Denon Heos with the recent Sonos debacle.
the limitations are pretty real… these devices are computers and at some point you can also do so much to upgrade…. same w phone, laptop, etc. opinion without any backing are just hot air
@@scientificaudiophiledo you think they sound good? I found them kind of flat, especially compared to XM4s. What do you think of B&W Px7 s2es or the Bose Ultras?
I couldn't give a toss about Sonos, having an aversion to closed exploitative ecosystems. But.... given the paucity of WiFi enabled headphones on the market, I suspect there are technical issues acting as a barrier. Possibly battery life and weight. Having said that, feel free to trash them. I have no skin in the game and will stick to my PX8s and their weird sound signature. Oooh! Just saw the end and love the Emoji head. Can we have that all the time. Please?
I wish Sonos well. Comebacks ARE possible.Sonos sounds like it would be a good word for "goodbye." Even though it's the same amount of syllables as 'So long", Sonos seems shorter to say, somehow. Now "Somehow" seems longer to say than the words "So long" even though So long is actually two words. And every bit as many syllables. Has anyone ever come out with a stat as to how much longer in time your average cd is, compared to original lps from like the 1960's to 1990s? I notice that just about every cd I put on, there's like at least 16 tracks or more. Steppenwolf 16 greatest hits is about the only vintage lp I can think of that has that many tracks. Instead of the usual 4 or 5 tracks on each side back in the golden era of lps, it now seems almost mandatory that an artist's cd has lots of tracks. With cds, there's no more excuses like, "you can only fit on 4 or 5 tracks per side" without making the grooves so narrow as to degrade sound quality. Could this be a factor in why music creativity has taken a huge dip since the the early 1980s? Having to come up with so many more tracks might be draining. The $$ incentive isn't as much anymore either, with less royalties, and less music sales, where most well known music is available free. Can you imagine bands back in the 1960s and 1970s being told, "There will come a day in the future where all that music that artists work to create will be FREE. People won't even have to buy a thing! I am a little surprised that someone who apparently listens almost exclusively to the organ music of Diane Bish, would even think of headphones. That huge airy sonority of a pipe organ which can fill a huge cathedral, seems like the equivelent of the old movie Honey I Shrunk The Kids. Have you ever heard the Saint Saens Symphony 3, also called the Organ Symphony? Probably the most famous organ piece ever written. There's probably 100 different recordings of it. A really beautiful piece of music; one ot he best and a true classic. The best versions I know are the ones conducted by Paul Paray on Mercury and Charles Munch on RCA. Although I'm sure the Bish version would have been the best, had she recorded it. The Paray cd is coupled with the Paray Mass, which is nice, and a good one to play on Sundays, if you want your neighbors to think you are either Religious or Latin. What other artists besides Bish do you really like to listen to? Seriously?
Interesting; I was not aware of that. Another interesting question would be what musical group has the largest discography? The jazz group The Crusaders springs to mind. If you include their early albums when they were called The Jazz Crusaders, I think they put out close to 40 albums. If you include later solo albums put out by their personnel like Joe Sample, Larry Carlton, and Wilton Felder, I'm think it's closer to 70 recordings between them. That's way more than The Rolling Stones and it's members; or The Beatles. Another group whose members have very long discographies is the 1970s Jazz supergroup Return To Forever. Chick Corea, Al Dimeola, Stanley Clark & Lenny White. Al Dimeola's Elegant Gypsy lp I think is still the best selling Jazz Fusion guitarist album of all time. The album School Days by Stanley Clarke is one of the best selling Jazz Fusion electric bass player albums of all time. The title track is a classic, and on track two he does a cover instrumental of all things, Midnight At The Oasis...Sing Your Camel To Bed.Remember that one? Camels really like that. And they'll like you enough not to spit at you. Anyone who has been spat on by a camel knows that it is absolutely one of the worst things that can ever happen to you. Even their drummer Lenny White put out some solo albums. Venusian Summer is a classic lp/cd. It keeps getting better and better the further into the album you go. And what can you say about Chick Corea. Such a great artist and one of the most melody inventive artists ever, from an era where the music actually had melody. I doubt if there ever was a group with musicians anywhere near Return To Forever. Imagine if they would have had Diane Bish also.
I got the Arc with the Sub and 2 ikea rear speakers, 2 Sonos One SE and now these headphones. The point that the headphones are not part of the ecosystem is really a big issue and that I can not switch between my Ones and the Ace is something I really hope Sonos will fix in an update. Besides that fact I am happy with my Ace headphones for watching movies through the ace. The switch between the arc and the ace is really smooth and I enjoy it very much. Besides that they have to include more basic features. That’s typical for Sonos with new products. The arc was also a bummer in the beginning and got better with (nearly) any update. Otherwise I will be disappointed by Sonos.
I got a similar setup - Sonos Arc + Sub + 2 Ikea frame speakers. Ability to forward audio from Arc is already nice, but I also have Port for my turntable, so I'll connect 1Mii B03+ to it and then I'll connect Aces (once they arrive in the middle of July, sigh) to it, which _should_ address streaming to them. I hope.
My solution is until then: you stream from your port to the Arc soundbar and (after you connected the ace to your arc) then you stream via the Arc to the Ace headphones. I think that will work
I think the issues with headphones is they are very subjective. And they need to be comfortable and keep your ears cool. That’s the main reason why both is so popular. Bose does not have the best sound, Bose has very good sound. We’re both really shines as its comfort and coolness your ears almost never get hot and sweaty. Where the Sony’s XM3/4, sound slightly better, but the cushion is squashed against your ear, so your ear can’t breathe and gets very hot. So it’s not worth the better sound as you won’t wanna wear them for more than an hour. Comfort is King when it comes to headphones.
I am happy with my Sonos Ace! Great package in my eyes. So it's Bluetooth, nothing wrong with that. Wifi needs more energy, headphones can simply not deliver for a longer period, should be known with a bit of knowledge. These clickbait scam is really annoying.
WiFi doesn’t use that much energy. These headphones have plenty of space for batteries. It really makes no sense that these wouldn’t have WiFi streaming. Also WiFi would allow for the full quality of the stream and not the compressed Bluetooth.
Sonos ACE are a really great set of Bluetooth headphones. They sound great, especially for movie content are well thought out with really good connection options. Icing on the cake would have been WiFi connectivity, but the current WiFi/qualcomm chips they can use suck up too much energy. Unfortunately Sonos isn’t huge like Apple or Google so can’t produce proprietary WiFi chips.
That's the issue. They are made by Sonos but they are not part of the ecosystem they are famous for. The airpods for instance, are part of the ecosystem Apple created. The Sonos do not even offer a real EQ, so for the asking price, you could get a better pair of regular Bluetooth headphones with better ANC.
@@nachot6592well, that’s debatable. A better regulator BT headphone and better ANC? Quite a small group of competitors. I see the partial integration in the Sonos ecosystem as an additional benefit. Connected with their soundbar you can use any sound source. I have an Apple and a Sonos ecosystem. However, due to size and weight, AirPod Max never were an option for me. People have different priorities. For me the Ace are quite perfect for the moment. But who knows, the next Max generation might change everything. Cheers 😊
This is not a clickbait video, his complaints are the same ones many users have been having all over the forums and in other videos. You’re probably just used to the Sonos sponsored videos a lot of these tech reviewers have been paid for which is the reason they praise them.
No matter how poor the quality of the headphones, Diane Bish STILL sounds wonderful! 😅
Ha,ha. That is what you get for not abandoning Sonos. So glad I found you,as you connected me to Diane Bisch. Before I met you on UA-cam, I had to settle for Moog Synth from ELP, and UA-cam videos of Anna Lapwood playing Interstellar at midnight in Royal Albert Hall. I hate interstellar as much as Sonos.
was this a blind buy? how did you not know they were BT only… seems like an excuse to be outraged
As a SONOS user, I was highly anticipating their arrival for almost three years. I pre-bought them at Amazon and they were shipped a month later when they were first in stock.
Good points sir. This is a product of MBA management
You are so right about bricking their older products. My first speaker was a Play 5. I can no longer use my phone or Apple watch to play music using airplay. I called tech support 3 times, and it worked for a few hours before reverting back to a brick. Oh, but they will give me 15% off for a new one. Shady business practices.
All started after the IPO.
@@scientificaudiophileFind out whose stock holdings increased the most from the new issue, and who was issued founders shares, these are the people you should picket, just run an emf noise machine outside their homes so none of their own gear works at all. 😅
Subscribed for your honesty I love it
I turned on their app the other day and it was a nightmare... And I install this crap for a living...
True and sad. I don’t blame the developers, you know management is asking for stupid stuff and pushing out beta software.
I am a fan of good audio, but I am also a fan of honesty, and I must say that you my good sir have brought honesty to the for. Thank you for a great video.
I appreciate that!
wi-fi headphones don't exist because it would drain the battery in no time
I'd take 6 hours of Wi-Fi with a nice recharger and PEQ.
@@scientificaudiophile if someone has money to burn, they can connect a BT adapter to Sonos Port, and get best of both worlds.
@@scientificaudiophile but the whole world does not want 6 batter life hours headphone. Stick with reality and practicality.
I knew going into it that there was no Sonos app wi-fi capability. I think they sound all right, but I agree with several others here that headphones are very subjective. We all have different things we're looking for. My Bluetooth connection has never dropped, and although the bass is not where I would like it to be, the highs and mids come through well and the soundstage is good. However, I agree the app still needs serious serious work and there's a lot they can do with firmware updates. I have faith they'll come back. I sure hope so. As a totally blind person I don't think any other company has an app that works well and as seemlessly as the Sonos app before they bricked it.
Sonos reps. literally said in their press release that the demand on the Ace's battery would be too much for Mesh operations.
Then put in bigger batteries. The headphone itself is too small.
I have two family members heavily invested in the Sonos whole home system KoolAid-aid - oops, I mean incredibly user friendly software app infrastructure- and have spent the last several years walking on eggs trying to be diplomatic in regards my impressions of the audio quality. (Does that hint at what those might be?). Since the system’s singular appeal I can see is the admittedly convenient control via the app, I can only hope for the sake of folks who’ve been awaiting a series of long rumoured product upgrades that this doesn’t foreshadow the company’s direction moving forward.
To be honest I don't really rate any of these bluetooth headphones, apps and codecs are messy and it's hard (and expensive) to get ones that sound decent. Why did we lose the 3.5mm adaptor again?
Sonos has consistently gotten worse. At this point I regret getting my parents some.
Thanks for this video. Headphones are definitely subjective. I confess that I am a Sonos fan. Maybe I don't drink the kool-aid, but I definitely like the sound. I got these headphones knowing the lacking Wi-Fi streaming capabilities. Still, they are cheaper than the airpods. They are much lighter. 😊 And at least for me, they fit well.
Thanks for sharing!
They must be listening to their accountants rather than their customers. It's like integrated amplifiers with a remote that controls only the volume or looks like it's from the 80's. What's up with that?
If they extend the SWAP feature to actually work with more of the speakers (right now it is the TV, not the soundbar itself that drives the swap e.g. no SONOS radio), that would make me feel that this is a sonos product. But, these features can and should be firmware fixed, otherwise - IBM, and I am out!
Thank you! I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of these, but after listening to your review, I'll opt for something else...Bose perhaps. AND btw, I HATE the new Sonos app!!!!!!!
😀
I won't even look at new Sonos products after the pain their home system has caused me.
Ya definitely shorting Sonos.. On margin.. Thanks for the tip!
Why is so nice losing its way they’re like the number one speaker company in the world? What is the way they should be going? And no, I don’t own any other products.
Sounds like most American companies. Make a meh product in the cheapest manufacturing country possible. And try and use your name and history to try and suck as much profit out of it as possible. Probably cost 50.00 to make.
When you do a blind drunk review, you must tell us the name of the wine that was responsible.
Will do for future videos.
sonos is like bose. you buy the brand at the expense of performance. both do the job but others for the same price throw it into the gutter
Another toy-fi brand bites the dust.
I hate sonos. Diane Bish hates them too xx
I appreciate your review but I feel like it was harder to trust your opinion when you were reading a script word for word. Try to be more natural with your audience. There’s no point of sitting in front of a camera reading a script off to the side of the camera. It’s about as disappointing as the Sonos ace headphones.
The disaster that is people winging their content has sank many a channel. A script ensures all the points they want to make are made, concise, and timely. They have to write the script, after all.
To this commenters point, looking off to the side is distracting to a light degree. A think a hardware investment like one of those reflective teleprompter boxes (the camera sits behind a one way reflective glass at a 45 degree angle reflecting a script to your eyes, meaning you look at the camera while also reading the script) would be a great purchase and useful for your content style.
I agree. I'll work on reading through a better teleprompter. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
@@scientificaudiophile in the meantime, you could cut to B-roll a bit more to hide those moments but beware the rapid fire cuts as they can become overstimulating. Best of luck to the future of your channel!
@HardLuckPete the best thing about S/A is that he cuts to the chase and he KNOWS his shit. And he does objective/subjective. There are tons of reviewers out there who have fantastic production and editing - but are sponsored frauds, audio-snake-oil believers, or pretentious yet uneducated.
@@VonKickass Thanks for letting me know my production and editing suck. 😀. I will endeavor to get better.
Honestly this is the best SONOS headphone review. Lots of others where double the lenght with less content and talking points.
Thanks.
Finally, someone tells an honest review
Your best infinite rating I've seen so far 👏
Soundcore are the best
I love soundcore as well. From the cheap p20i, to the space one, and many things in between. They are very nice as well and way cheaper.
Agreed! Their mini BT speaker blew me away so I bought their spatial audio BT and that thing blows everyone away.
Clearly based on the same platform used by soundcore and other million chinese headphones.
So I use Sonos but the recent software/app updates pretty much nixed my system with having a few gen 2 connects. I also have Heos. The recent software update for me worked pretty well. Integrating all my gen 1 legacy speakers and works with pretty well. So leaning more towards Denon Heos with the recent Sonos debacle.
the limitations are pretty real… these devices are computers and at some point you can also do so much to upgrade…. same w phone, laptop, etc.
opinion without any backing are just hot air
I agree, such a disappointment, on many levels. What a missed opportunity, all for the want of a WiFi module.
TIL Sonos isn't part of Sony.
Waving the headphones too close to the camera had me weirded out a bit the first couple of time your face went out of focus.🤭
I've got Nakamichi and AKG bluetooth headphones. I use them when I mow the yard.
I dunno. I tried these in the store. I think the sound quality is top notch.
Get some Dan Clark’s and get back to me.
@@scientificaudiophile but are they ANC and wireless? That’s what I’m looking for
@@musicalman1995 I'd recommend the Sony WH-1000XM5
@@scientificaudiophiledo you think they sound good? I found them kind of flat, especially compared to XM4s. What do you think of B&W Px7 s2es or the Bose Ultras?
I couldn't give a toss about Sonos, having an aversion to closed exploitative ecosystems. But.... given the paucity of WiFi enabled headphones on the market, I suspect there are technical issues acting as a barrier. Possibly battery life and weight.
Having said that, feel free to trash them. I have no skin in the game and will stick to my PX8s and their weird sound signature.
Oooh! Just saw the end and love the Emoji head. Can we have that all the time. Please?
They say 40 hours of battery life. I'd have loved 6 hours with WiFi enabled , possibly with a nice recharging headphone stand.
A swing and a mess I’ll pass thank you
Sonny Bono. RIP
Im assuming you ran them in for 600 hours before you tried the eq?.
Run in overrated.
@@attilab.2818 ok....perhaps 100 hours then .
how do they compare to bose qc ultra , sound quality wise?...thanks for the review
Similar. More mid bass in Sonos, so that's a plus for them.
I wish Sonos well. Comebacks ARE possible.Sonos sounds like it would be a good word for "goodbye." Even though it's the same amount of syllables as 'So long", Sonos seems shorter to say, somehow. Now "Somehow" seems longer to say than the words "So long" even though So long is actually two words. And every bit as many syllables. Has anyone ever come out with a stat as to how much longer in time your average cd is, compared to original lps from like the 1960's to 1990s? I notice that just about every cd I put on, there's like at least 16 tracks or more. Steppenwolf 16 greatest hits is about the only vintage lp I can think of that has that many tracks. Instead of the usual 4 or 5 tracks on each side back in the golden era of lps, it now seems almost mandatory that an artist's cd has lots of tracks. With cds, there's no more excuses like, "you can only fit on 4 or 5 tracks per side" without making the grooves so narrow as to degrade sound quality. Could this be a factor in why music creativity has taken a huge dip since the the early 1980s? Having to come up with so many more tracks might be draining. The $$ incentive isn't as much anymore either, with less royalties, and less music sales, where most well known music is available free. Can you imagine bands back in the 1960s and 1970s being told, "There will come a day in the future where all that music that artists work to create will be FREE. People won't even have to buy a thing!
I am a little surprised that someone who apparently listens almost exclusively to the organ music of Diane Bish, would even think of headphones. That huge airy sonority of a pipe organ which can fill a huge cathedral, seems like the equivelent of the old movie Honey I Shrunk The Kids. Have you ever heard the Saint Saens Symphony 3, also called the Organ Symphony? Probably the most famous organ piece ever written. There's probably 100 different recordings of it. A really beautiful piece of music; one ot he best and a true classic. The best versions I know are the ones conducted by Paul Paray on Mercury and Charles Munch on RCA. Although I'm sure the Bish version would have been the best, had she recorded it. The Paray cd is coupled with the Paray Mass, which is nice, and a good one to play on Sundays, if you want your neighbors to think you are either Religious or Latin. What other artists besides Bish do you really like to listen to? Seriously?
Bish covers nearly all music from 350 CE to 1937 CE. I know of no other artist that has such a huge volume of music.
Interesting; I was not aware of that. Another interesting question would be what musical group has the largest discography? The jazz group The Crusaders springs to mind. If you include their early albums when they were called The Jazz Crusaders, I think they put out close to 40 albums. If you include later solo albums put out by their personnel like Joe Sample, Larry Carlton, and Wilton Felder, I'm think it's closer to 70 recordings between them. That's way more than The Rolling Stones and it's members; or The Beatles.
Another group whose members have very long discographies is the 1970s Jazz supergroup Return To Forever. Chick Corea, Al Dimeola, Stanley Clark & Lenny White. Al Dimeola's Elegant Gypsy lp I think is still the best selling Jazz Fusion guitarist album of all time. The album School Days by Stanley Clarke is one of the best selling Jazz Fusion electric bass player albums of all time. The title track is a classic, and on track two he does a cover instrumental of all things, Midnight At The Oasis...Sing Your Camel To Bed.Remember that one? Camels really like that. And they'll like you enough not to spit at you. Anyone who has been spat on by a camel knows that it is absolutely one of the worst things that can ever happen to you. Even their drummer Lenny White put out some solo albums. Venusian Summer is a classic lp/cd. It keeps getting better and better the further into the album you go. And what can you say about Chick Corea. Such a great artist and one of the most melody inventive artists ever, from an era where the music actually had melody. I doubt if there ever was a group with musicians anywhere near Return To Forever.
Imagine if they would have had Diane Bish also.
I got the Arc with the Sub and 2 ikea rear speakers, 2 Sonos One SE and now these headphones. The point that the headphones are not part of the ecosystem is really a big issue and that I can not switch between my Ones and the Ace is something I really hope Sonos will fix in an update. Besides that fact I am happy with my Ace headphones for watching movies through the ace. The switch between the arc and the ace is really smooth and I enjoy it very much. Besides that they have to include more basic features. That’s typical for Sonos with new products. The arc was also a bummer in the beginning and got better with (nearly) any update. Otherwise I will be disappointed by Sonos.
They would require WiFi hardware, so don't imagine a firmware update will fix it.
I got a similar setup - Sonos Arc + Sub + 2 Ikea frame speakers. Ability to forward audio from Arc is already nice, but I also have Port for my turntable, so I'll connect 1Mii B03+ to it and then I'll connect Aces (once they arrive in the middle of July, sigh) to it, which _should_ address streaming to them. I hope.
My solution is until then: you stream from your port to the Arc soundbar and (after you connected the ace to your arc) then you stream via the Arc to the Ace headphones. I think that will work
Listening on my drive home thanks for keeping me company
Thanks for listening
"IBM of HiFi" now that's a big oof. I still have one of the good old IBM laptops. It still works.
Are you sure you don’t have a Lenovo laptop. They bought the IBM consumer business in 2005.
@@scientificaudiophileWe are not all early adopters you know. I am still typing on a Babbage Difference Engine.
@@jimfarrell4635 😄
I think the issues with headphones is they are very subjective. And they need to be comfortable and keep your ears cool. That’s the main reason why both is so popular. Bose does not have the best sound, Bose has very good sound. We’re both really shines as its comfort and coolness your ears almost never get hot and sweaty. Where the Sony’s XM3/4, sound slightly better, but the cushion is squashed against your ear, so your ear can’t breathe and gets very hot. So it’s not worth the better sound as you won’t wanna wear them for more than an hour. Comfort is King when it comes to headphones.
Sony sounds artificial and very bassy with lack of details. Prefer Bose anytime.
The problem is people don’t do enough research. There are tons of headphones out there that make Apple, Bose and Sony look stupid
I am happy with my Sonos Ace! Great package in my eyes. So it's Bluetooth, nothing wrong with that. Wifi needs more energy, headphones can simply not deliver for a longer period, should be known with a bit of knowledge. These clickbait scam is really annoying.
WiFi doesn’t use that much energy. These headphones have plenty of space for batteries. It really makes no sense that these wouldn’t have WiFi streaming. Also WiFi would allow for the full quality of the stream and not the compressed Bluetooth.
Sonos ACE are a really great set of Bluetooth headphones. They sound great, especially for movie content are well thought out with really good connection options. Icing on the cake would have been WiFi connectivity, but the current WiFi/qualcomm chips they can use suck up too much energy. Unfortunately Sonos isn’t huge like Apple or Google so can’t produce proprietary WiFi chips.
That's the issue. They are made by Sonos but they are not part of the ecosystem they are famous for. The airpods for instance, are part of the ecosystem Apple created. The Sonos do not even offer a real EQ, so for the asking price, you could get a better pair of regular Bluetooth headphones with better ANC.
@@nachot6592well, that’s debatable. A better regulator BT headphone and better ANC? Quite a small group of competitors. I see the partial integration in the Sonos ecosystem as an additional benefit. Connected with their soundbar you can use any sound source.
I have an Apple and a Sonos ecosystem. However, due to size and weight, AirPod Max never were an option for me. People have different priorities. For me the Ace are quite perfect for the moment. But who knows, the next Max generation might change everything. Cheers 😊
This is not a clickbait video, his complaints are the same ones many users have been having all over the forums and in other videos.
You’re probably just used to the Sonos sponsored videos a lot of these tech reviewers have been paid for which is the reason they praise them.