I agree, I just hope it stays that way since they’ve only been scrimming for a week. I have faith in the rats, but I’m hesitant since we haven’t seen them really struggle yet. Even this “disappointing” showing was a 3-1 win
@@whocansay2215 Baus and nemesis are almost never FF low typing type of players and rekkles has always seemed like a very chill dude, they've got great mental
I think baus is super chill when he wins often, but after a losing streak he can start trying to learn and second guessing himself way too much, loses confidence on his calls and all that. My fear is that here he is also learning, so he might have a timid face trying to incorporate POVs from the other highly educated players, but I have high hopes he will be able to end up assimilating all that and coming back with a baus2.0 that will be amazing. for sure. just do not despair in between stages... please
On top of what the others have said, I think it’s also because they got into this team, mainly because they all just want to compete *and* have fun. Obviously they still work it out like your typical professional team, but LR also try and approach it with fun like the sky’s the limit. Just simply playing a game with the intent of just having fun, makes a huge change on your mental. (Edit: I think a great example of this is DRX 2022 Worlds with Deft). As a team, I feel like that can be a bliss feeling.
it's too early to say, they haven't played against any real challenges yet and haven't gone on a losing streak. We will see how their morale holds up as a team if they ever have bad streaks. That's the true test.
Liked the Naayil call discussing Aatrox matchups. Caedrel is one of the biggest League streamers and one thing he could do and that I'd love as a regular thing on stream for LR content is having high elo 1T/mains discuss champs/strats. Obv having analysts like Molecule is good but it's good to crowdsource info from mains and knowledgeable people.
Afaik guys like Veigarv2, Molecule etc already have great contacts with soloQ OTPs, weird playstyle players and they often ask them about matchup both publicly and probably in DM. For example pros in Korea are doing it directly asking OTPs of their server for advice too. No shit the western players are worse if majority of them obviously consider soloQ players as insects not worthy of time to ask. For example Makkro - the best Ornn and probably tank player in EUW soloQ got asked/got his PoV viewed on Korea by multiple tier 1/ tier 2 pros but as he stated NONE pro in EU ever reached out to him. As a result ours Ornn build like ass, played like ass and as a result looks like ass
That’s very interesting I suppose now since it is fearless draft you would need to consider even more factors and not only players but coaches have to up their levels
They could also try offstream what bb did. IIRC bb said he practiced laning alot against alphari I think and that helped him during MSI. You can always try and seek knowledge somewhere and that can help you have a broader point of view
they are literally miles above everyone else in that tourney, maybe except the french team. i see how it would be depressing to perform like that against lower teams
@@equinox85it's like in lckwhen hle/geng/t1 have close games vs Bro or fox it doesn't matter that you won if its close it's bad because you are way better than them
The Naayil part was really good and pleasant. Not only did it confirm Baus's opinion, it's also good to see people willing to share knowledge, and what Caedrel can bring as a coach - refering to the right people without any ego. Keep at it rats !
@@cleiru7859you need to give him time, he will naturally gain confidence but you can’t force it otherwise it might go wrong. Let him naturally find his voice, he has the knowledge, but also knows that is experience is much lower compared to everyone else.
I feel like NNO doing drafts and strats good today. They played around jg well and utilized good wave clear ability to counter 4-1 split. They are ahead in most objective setups (or at least grouped more decisively) and focus on drakes stack. On the other hand LR as a team focus heavily on grubs not really have good controls on grubs across the whole series, ofc the clutch factor in the end saved LR. Edit: also I feels like team needs a bit more pinks. Baus and Neme bearly buy any pinks, didn’t watch much Velja and Crownie’s POV.
Neme and Baus are so used to "cheating" items faster by not buying pinks and instead relying on pure game sense. Its 100% OP in solo q where hitting your items first in a clown fiesta like Solo Q is King. But competetive its all about timings around objectives and grouping to win the vision war. Like getting your ludens 5 minutes before 2nd drake dosent really do anything unless the enemy does something stupid.
Baus and Velja need time to find their voice in the team... I am sure its hard for them because Crown is really vocal so it feels like everyone is just expecting him to call everything and they probably feel scared to call a play just in case it goes wrong. A lot of it just needs time
Caedrel needs to call less shots, I think. His calls are great, but the other guys need to find their voice whether it's a wrong call or not. They should play a game where only one player would call the shots and it'll alternate between everyone of them
We also gotta remember that baus is not a former pro like the other guys. Nem and cownie (and rekkles obviously when he comes) are all experienced pros who have played on big stages. Baus is just learning how to play competitively. He will find his voice, but it’s going to take time. Think about it- he’s played like 10 competitive games and the other guys have literally played years in the LEC. We can’t expect him to play like a pro after 1.5 weeks of being with the team
@@Euu_-tc6hz Nah, I'm fairly certain it's been confirmed from multiple sources (including baus himself) that him being a "sub" on G2 was more of a marketing stint type thing
I do fear that the rest of the team is gonna pick up on Caedrel's negativity, reflection and constructive criticism are important but you can't spiral because of disappointment, everything's gonna seem way worse when you're in that mental and the team will pick up on it Resentment will build if you just bite your tongue when disappointed though so there's a healthy middle ground to be found i think
Lowkey true. Being perfectionist isn't always the best i suppose. Like the only guy who seems to enjoy himself is after wins is Baus. Meanwhile cadrel always tryna find mistakes xD
@FredEmpty he's the coach though, he has to look for mistakes. They're going to play vs T1 every single mistake can equal a loss. Especially as the coach this is literally his entire job
I think you're right. Especially since they will play with Rekkles the rest of the year anyways. Its okay to be dissappointed, but no need to let the negative thoughts take over the positive ones. Team atmosphere will change when Rekkles comes in. So better to try to give your best now & just let things happen as they go until Rekkles joins
@@PastaDiMama44 i like rekless but u are aware hes one of the most negative/pessimistic people in entire lec right? pretty much everyone whos played with him has said that, its not malicious, he is just not optimistic
@@NeptuneSXDL If you are Caedral and think you have a realistic chance of beating T1 that aren't trolling you are delusional. T1 should not be on their minds at all it's a content match. Their opponents at their level is what they should worry about if they are actually serious about this whole pro thing.
@@yihadistxdl951hes good but comparing him with dylan is a bit much, yamato has no lec title and 2 worlds appearances where he bombed out of group, not that impressive
@@dennoplit well you kind of have to consider the teams as well. he had the decent fnatic roster that was doing decently the whole time he was coaching them and then he had the trainwreck kc roster that was guaranteed last place even if they had dylan. and dylan has g2. i think this purely result-based comparisons are really unfair cuz it ignores all the nuance. its not just black and white. but yes obviously dylan is the best coach in europe thats uncontested. but im just saying yamatocannon is definitely up there with him and veigarv2 when it comes to coaches from europe. although veigarv2 is in the lcs right now. hes probably the closest one to dylan in terms of coaching skill. id put yamato third honestly when it comes to coaches in europe
You inted the the champions select more in my opinion. First Game only 1 Ap into tank Sion and second game Baus wanted to play Ambessa into Aatrox and you insta denied it without discussion. But Ill add that your flanks were fucking insane 5 head. That comeback was amazing to see. Keep it going and don't be to harsh on your teamates and yourself. You gotta believe man! Your team does
I think they should hire a psychologist to help them when they feel these things, I believe this because Caedrel's phrase "We won, we participate in the RedBull tournament and I don't feel happy now" is something important to consider. I know it's a feeling that probably lasted a couple of hours but it's important to train yourself to know how to react to these feelings in the moment, especially if you have to deal with 5 players that think/feel the same way or worst (And considering the pressure that means, it's a good idea).
1000% agree with this. Sports psychologists are an essential part of any team and if they want to perform at their best their mental has to really be worked on.
this isn't a bad idea but teams need to stay in budget somehow. Also you can both win a match and feel dissapointed with your performance. It's a very common phenomenon.
no, the feeling is valid and needed, they performed poorly relative to their ceiling and instead of hiring a psychologist, they need to fix their game!
I guess it's fair to be disappointed in the performance but as a viewer this is the funnest shit I have seen in a minute lmao, the clutch factor is crazy.
Just my take, but sorry Caedrel, please listen more to your laner's opinion regarding the champ pick. They play their lane (Bauss and Nemesis, for example) for many years, so their opinion matters too. When he forced Bauss on Kled, I laughed my ass off knowing Bauss didn't like it and will complain after the game ends, which legit xdd. Hope you can play as clean as you want with the next opponent.
Definitely needs to be more of an open dialogue about this prior to official games. How can they enter draft and the person dictating draft (Caedrel) doesn't know that Baus hates to play Kled into Aatrox? These are things that should be ironed out before champ select / OR, Caedrel needs to defer to their understanding of matchups with a lot more humility. Brokenblade incorrectly feeling Kled is good vs Aatrox has NO relevance to Baus' understanding of the matchup as a prior Kled OTP and EUWs highest elo Kled player. And this is not to flame Caedrel, amazing leader, but the aforementioned problems were really blatant in this series and they need to be fixed ASAP
@@stevenb3854 I already yapped about it under another comment. But Nemesis legitimately soft inted that game on purpose after he was forced on Galio. And then Baus who made kled work eventually in the game cause their opponents suck ass. Says after he carries Caedral's useless ass, "I'm not playing that match up ever again Caedral" and then Caedral just scoffs like "What?" as if it's Incomprehensible that Baus won't play a sh1t champ like kled cause some random pro said it's good. Just like Baus said to caedral "You're not Keria little bro" your players are their own people they have their own preferences, listen to them, he's just lucky Baus is unbreakable mentally and didn't throw on purpose like nemesis did on Galio. Bro acts like they are npcs that should just do what he says, he has zero thought for their experience playing their lane.
@@bradhurst6834 And it was coming from baus too. One of the better kled players on the server. He can, and has played kled. OFC he knows his matchups. He plays challenger every split.
@@ArenDsiire Coach is a manager type role. Give ideas, receive feedback, come to conclusion that works for everyone. Not a dictator that forces Baus and Nemesis on characters they don't want to play, a good "coach" figures out a compromise and if one can't be found just lets the player play what they want to play. Caedral treats them like npcs.
imagine the coach getting so disheartened by his personal gameplay in a series. I have no hate toward caedrel but if he wants to be the coach for the team, then he needs to be that. He may be supp at the moment but it is not permanent. The focus should be on building the team instead of getting depressed like he just lost worlds finals. That is not his role. I think this team has potential but if caedrel burns out before he is in the postion he is meant to be then it is bad all around much love cadrel gl
Broad takeaways: * Flowchart the players' matchup preferences and factor that into draft strats * Get other players talking more * Give your mental some TLC This ain't finals and you ain't the support. You're the coach and it's preseason tune-ups. You've learned a lot about what the team does well and where it can improve, while winning a bunch on stream and providing great content. That's worth celebrating. Your job from here is to step back towards that coaching role: working with players on draft, guiding them towards doing their own shotcalling, and supporting their mental. Your mental, too - it's been weeks, don't burn yourself out before you get off the ground.
It's hard to say "oh Baus had so many useless deaths" or "oh Velja was super dizzy on the map" when tbh LR was just playing 4v5 this series. Idk if Caedrel had a headache or something but this was a piss-poor performance even for him, just compared to the last series vs. the polish team. He was consistently missing skillshots, refusing to peel for Crownie and not hitting level 6 until 15 minutes. By the 4th game he wasn't even really shotcalling, which was sad to see, but at least Crownie stepped up majorly.
@@cruxx2749 Yeah, I'm just questioning how accurately you can judge other people's performances in that situation. Like for example is Velja's play bad because of what he's doing or because _any_ play would've been bad without a support? Saying 'You should've played safe 24/7 because I'm gonna int you if you try anything' isn't exactly constructive feedback, basically.
The smolder game crowny kept asking for protection and they all just ignored him, in that game I do think nemesis was purposely trying to lose, he walked around aimlessly on the map avoiding mid not even farming, whining constantly to chat about how orianna is a bad matchup for galio, he was soft throwing by the end he was like 4 levels down. 4 levels down does not happen unless you are actively not playing which he wasn't. He didn't want to play galio instead of saying that he just passively inted and then said after game "I think this game was lost in draft" as if they didn't have braum volibear and galio and could just protect smolder and win easily.
@@mrmcawesome9746 He doesn't say anything and just goes in solo. These are his two biggest problems. Like today have me worried they legit need a new jungler cause if he's going to not talk and go in solo but he also isn't mechanically making up for it (Like baus and nemesis for example who make up for their lack of talking by playing very well overall) then he just useless.
As a long time baus viewer, he definitely needs to communicate game state better, like ults, summs, when he sees somebody in his lane and his lane opponents rotation, especially with his playstyle. Given how once he gains momentum in a game, he forces the enemy team to respond to him or else get continuously punished by his high tempo and pushing. Basically he needs to relay to the team the pressure and resources that he has absorbed. On stream I noticed he plays better when he explains what he is doing and why he is doing it to chat, he should practice that more tbh, he has made crazy macro and micro plays like that and has bad deaths much less. Another thing is when he is very confident with his plays and that he can beat somebody 1v1, it usually works out in his favor, his playstyle does insane amounts of limit testing (im not sure this applies to team fighting as much as 1v1 scenarios though). (Like game 2, when he kills ziggs/bard at the top/Baron fight, he knows he can get on and kill the ziggs, and he takes it, even though nemesis doubts and says "baus dead"). I also dont know how it plays out in competitive/pro play, but baus wins lane through macro, not necessarily counter picking his lane opponent. This is one reason his bausenlaw playstyle works. (Losing lane = farm, proxy, and pull pressure top. That way even if he technically loses lane. He forces enemy macro to answer him and threatens their tempo, which is where the rest of LR can take advantage). LR is very entertaining, it is the only LOL team I follow, and I hope to watch you all succeed
have you seen baus doing scrims before? Dude basically never speaks up. I doubt he has the confidence to do it and he has a long way to go before he starts communicating. Even when explaining his thinking he stutters and gets slammed.
This. If anything should be taken away from these games and what could be done to improve, this and especially with how he's used to explain to chat what he's going to do. Give him a keyword to get your guys attention (he is btw lowest voice com in the chat, barely hear him, adjust his volume) and let him give you the lowdown of his strat. He'll learn to be more concise with practice. Make one scrim focus on this, let him have a comfort champ and let him shotcall through his lane and tempo. Btw, this is the best thing since prime G2, never been as invested and had fun watching! Keep it up! And remember - losses are the best teachers! These were good games to learn from (win AND you learned, double-whammy!)
@@zachariz1490 He and velja[the other communication disaster] are both new to organized playstyle. Ofc he can't communicate well, he's only had like 2 weeks of scrims. They will get it up. Other 3 have all been pro players.
I feel like in older games the entire team played really well with Baus deaths or maybe he made his deaths more worth but I feel like in these recent games something shifted. Either everyone is together or no one is, but yeah, didnt like how you yall called him out for dying against Viego in a game today. Yeah, he could have recalled sooner and I think he messed up his wave clear there, he could have been faster or executed for the tower but in the end Viego was on him and not on grubs. You gotta let him do Baus, you gotta enable that and play around Baus law
Keep your heads up high guys, early games were mega rough but you'll get it again next series! You just started playing together, of course some series are gonna be rougher, you still won though, so well done!
Baus is probably the one that makes the most misplays in this team BUT also makes crazy outplays. But I actually watched that game(Kled vs Aatrox) from baus's perspective, and he was sooo good. He went 0-4 at the start(all ganks) but it wasn't really a misplay and put up crazy good fight. He was never behind despite the 0-4, and straight up went 8-4 by the end of the game. He actually lowkey carried that game. He was so ahead at by the end but still was having a hard time with aatrox. That matchup was really a fake counter. He'd have to counter build to easily win against aatrox but this game isn't a 1v1.
Baus is a beast, but he's so used to be on weak side, so his early game sometimes crumble. If he fixes that and gets more used to working with the team, he'll no doubt be at LEC level at some point.
@Anonymous-td9fl more or less. He said he can't do shit against Aatrox with kled. He carried in the end because he's the most consistent CSer I have ever seen outside of proplay teams, so he was still ahead of gold even when 0/4, but the early game was enterely for Aatrox even without Kha Zix
Insane to blame so much on Baus when you admit youre having a poor personal performance. 1. Forced Baus into a bad pick despite him not wanting to play it at all. 2. You know Baus' playstyle, play around it rather than try to "fix" him. He gains you so much map pressure every game during laning phase. 3. Once laning phase is over he is consistently the magic ingredient for the win. It's hard to blame him for much when he is honestly a win condition in of himself. If he doesnt solo end the game, hes usually wasted 40s of 3 players time and you should have a free map 2v4. Im not close to anyone here's level but i think emotions and personal opinions of Baus are really getting in the way of what could be the team's best wildcard
yamato was onpoint about baus point that his comm is so low that team didnt realize but what i see in all game scrim and tourney velja is really keen on listening to baus call so thats why some of his call become possible
Once rek comes into the team, their options are going to be massively improved. They'll have the option for winning bot matchups, which opens up jungle pool for carry champs and they can cross map harder with Baus' split pressure. The fact that they've been crushing games this hard with essentially plat support (no offense to the rat) gameplay speaks volumes to their potential.
Support is more a knowledge diff than it is a lane diff. Yes, having a mechanical support is amazing and would be better obviously, but Caedrel with all his knowledge and knowing where to be, is most definitely not a plat level support, especially with reliable teammates.
@@eliastaveras1760 yeah "we" all know you have not gone through any of his scrims & proviews for "data". If you were slightly smarter you would be considered an idiot.
Not to hate but that Braum leaving their win condition Smolder alone is pretty disgusting. Like every team fight he' so far away from their ADC. 5:33 He even said that his Braum felt pretty useful LMAO.
Slacking on those drafts planning a bit, the 4th game Alistar sprint was 2nd to worst pick only behind Rell. The strategy maybe is to take 1 split pusher and 4 strong together. You mentioned Maokai and Ambessa which were MUCH better if you know they will play 2 mages. Ambesssa, Kayle, Fiora Mundo, Udyr, Nunu were good here to force 4v3 dives Hwei Xayah MYMAOKAI, Taric, Blitzcrank :D Thoughts? Love the content and journey, go LR!
I honestly never watched Caedrel and only startet because I really like Baus and Crownie but what is this negativity? I understand that they want to win and all it makes sense but he is constantly so giga negative about Baus when he is by far the biggest troll on the team.. I think he legit does not understand some of Baus impact which is honestly sad since he actually knows alot about the game.
He understands, He even said multiple times that Baus's play is creating tempo for the whole team. it's just in this particular series Baus has multiple deaths that in his opinion useless. If you watch the video he acknowledges that he trolled. Also, Baus is not so thin-skinned that he cannot be criticized by his own coach. It's just one clip bro
@@Marlesden Weird but okay then. I have seen like only 2 or 3 short clips maybe they are not enough to convey the whole picture thank you for correctiing me. I was worried that it was a bit too one sided
in game 3 , i feel like they lost bc they didin't know how hard the dwagon can carry , which is understandable since i don't remember them playing it in scrims , i also hoped they would pick kindred if they planned on galio in g3 and gave it to baus and let neme counter pick with taliyah since enemy team has to engage champsand give the dwagon more room in tf ...
To be fair, NNO is really good and played as a team for years. LR won at the end so its fine (although it probably should have been a 0-3 or 1-3 win for NNO)
Agurin GAPPED velja, i feel velja should stick to nidalee, veigo and Vi... not saying his skarner nocturne is bad but he seems to be a snowball carry jungler, he needs a jungler that can bully enemy jungler early game
man caedrel rly is locked in and taking it serious with los ratones, love it. once rekkles is here and he can fully concentrate on the coaching side of things its gonna be so interesting to see how good this team can get
Why does Baus get hated this much? From his perspective, I think in the first two games, he was the one making the plays. Okay, maybe Game 3 wasn’t great, but overall, I think everyone played pretty badly that game. As for champion picks, you should listen to the players more. They are the ones laning, so you should at least consider their input. Baus wanted to play Ambessa, but you rejected it right away because you thought Kled beats Aatrox. I honestly don’t know how you came to that conclusion, because if you think about it carefully, you’d realize that Kled can’t win the Aatrox lane no matter what.
It should be noted that NNO is literally born to be the underdog comeback team. They have always been playing from this position and it has been their element. So do not worry too much, as it can happen to objectively better teams.
Keep at it caedrel, don't be too hard on yourselves, make sure all the relationships stay solid first and foremost, it's okay to drop games it's not okay to have a fractured team for the rest of the year, I believe in you rats! Lec next year?
I think the problem, which I noticed way back during his costreams, is that he always looks at things at an analytical standpoint. Or should I say on paper. I hope Caedrel watches his vods from the latest worlds and realize that everytime he didn't like the one team's draft, they mostly win the game. He don't like their drafts because he can see their comp in a disadvantage (analytically) against the opposing team, but they win it using their mechanical skills. T1 proved time and time again, no matter how much they are in a disadvantage, one's mechanical skill (looks at Faker) can win a game by himself. So I hope Caedrel learns to trust his team when they want to pick like Ambessa instead of rejecting it.
"Counters" or "disadvantages" only work when everyone is equal skill at their champ, if you take 5 OTP players with thousands of hours and 5 "counter/meta" players picking champs just cause they counter the enemy team in theory. I guarantee the OTP team will win easily most times.
nah its normal looks like caedrel has performance anxiety and not even as a league player but as a team coach and he wants everything to be perfect but its completely normal for a team to not always play at 100 percent so dont worry caedrel shit is good and you are doing a great job
if baus plays quinn then there needs to be other tanky champs in their comp, probably like skarner jng or galio mid and tanky sup (which is usually what they pick)
Have you heard Korean teams comms? They are constantly communicating. Baus only communicates when he’s backing, has TP or is getting dove. He needs to communicate more during the match. The more info the better. He’s a good player micro and macro but he needs to be better at being a teammate as well. This isn’t solo queue anymore
Idk why LR are so focused around early plays and forcing them when their solo laners are among the best of the West in terms of understanding waves and macro in mid-late game. They just generating gold so much better than even majority of LCS/LEC players. So as a result team is behind A LOT in early from mistakes of multiple people of a team, then due to some black magic of side laning and trading around the map Baus/Nemesis got fed, they find a miracle play and turn the game around. It happens so much might as well be a feature not a bug atp. Also Baus might be an inta in early but he is so obviously the most clutch player of LR. Let dude call his game when he is fed. I hear multiple times in coms from Neme/Crownie (and later on definitely Rekky will do it too) about "Hey lets go for drake/Nash. Lets back off for now" when Baus see an angle for engage, forced it in and they won
Don’t be so negative. One brash series yes, but does that decide the end all be all? No! You guys will make it through. Take mental breaks and recover. We all new this wasn’t gonna be easy and that it wasn’t gonna be a joyride. Oh but it’s close. Take it one step at a time and as far as possible!
I dont think nemmy wants galio, btw. That's what I learned from this series. He played impeccable all 3 other games, but the galio game, he did not like it.
This was bound to happen. Nemesis and Crownie are both mechanically great pros who got dropped from pro play primarily because they did not communicate well, Baus and Velja are soloq players so they don't have any experience communicating, and Caedrel has said in the past that he thinks he failed as a pro because he didn't speak up enough. Once they sort out their communication issues the gameplay will improve too
its also kind of especially bad because NNO didnt scrim at all up until the first game they played against you guys in scrimms. NNO was basically completely out of practice
I didn't follow these last few days... What happened? From looking at the brackets they won, no? So is Caedrel just upset they didn't stomp them as hard as he wanted LR to stomp?
They technically won, but they consistently lost early game. It's not a good thing for them to rely on being clutch to win back mid-late game. They're going to lose against a team that can snowball the lead that LR keeps throwing to their opponents.
It's not a matter of stomp. Yes they won but it wasn't clean. Reflecting on their 5-0 record in scrims, he mentions how the series felt unbelievably hard and they had bad macro which didn't occur during scrims. It's either the enemy team just leveled up (they didn't - again, he mentions this) or they were playing bad and that needs to be addressed.
Focusing on the negative gonna take a toll on you. In every post match reviews you always give criticism to your players (you always harsh on baus for some reason even if he play well) Listen to your team more and try to give more carrots instead of stick. Positive reviews will boost your team morale. Good luck on your next match caedrel
this makes no sense you picked up thebausffs and you want to make him a fcking theAntonio. Let him play what he feels and if you lose you lose, this is only for fun team or what? I can't imagine ppl flaming thebaus after he just ints few games just like he does all his life.
Def think caedrel needs a stronger mental at this stage. You don’t have the sponsors and rep yet to keep this thing going monetarily with a mental collapse. The team literally wouldn’t survive. Yall need to ride off the hype until the investors bite on it and give you the support to keep it going.
Sadly, it's just kind of delusional to base everything on the fact that they went 5-0 in scrims and that they should 3-0 them without a problem in the actual tournament because NNO as a team have played competitively and in scrims they weren't even the actual roster. You guys didn't just lose all early games because you played worse, but because they played better.
I always said. To dom Ls any streamer that says what are they doing. Follow by they should know that x is going to happened. Its so easy to criticizes when you have 100% information. Now there playing why are they doing so many mistakes.
You 5-0ed them on scrims remember guys t1 got 20 losses on scrim against gen g and they got 10 losses on official games. Don't be too hard on yourself.
It's not plot armour, it's competition. For every mistake you guys made, so did your opponents. The difference maker is you all have shown unreal mentality through each and every game. That intangible is more valuable than any skillshot or item purchase.
This is like the 4th time I have heard you complain about Baus's death. Yeah losing sucks and can have a negative impact on you but I really hope that you picked him knowing that he either ints or smurfs there is no in between with this guy. I absolutely hate this video because of how sad you sound. Negativity spreads faster than positivity. I am praying that the team doesn't die due to the negativity.
I think you guys need more scrim time. But also one thing I have always disliked about pro league is the need to always fit into the meta. Meta exists for a reason but having niche picks is always a good card to have up your sleeve. And as Nayil said, youre the rats. Let your players play their game, and fine tune from there. Just like in real sports, every position has a job but that doesnt mean every player has to fit that mold. Bobby Ore was a defensmen in hockey, but he was a phenominal player known for his speed and offensive plays. Just some food for thought.
Even though it was pure chaos the teams mental is on a whole different level. They never "soft" giving up. Thats one healthy team. 5 healthy rats.
I agree, I just hope it stays that way since they’ve only been scrimming for a week. I have faith in the rats, but I’m hesitant since we haven’t seen them really struggle yet. Even this “disappointing” showing was a 3-1 win
@@whocansay2215 Baus and nemesis are almost never FF low typing type of players and rekkles has always seemed like a very chill dude, they've got great mental
I think baus is super chill when he wins often, but after a losing streak he can start trying to learn and second guessing himself way too much, loses confidence on his calls and all that. My fear is that here he is also learning, so he might have a timid face trying to incorporate POVs from the other highly educated players, but I have high hopes he will be able to end up assimilating all that and coming back with a baus2.0 that will be amazing. for sure. just do not despair in between stages... please
On top of what the others have said, I think it’s also because they got into this team, mainly because they all just want to compete *and* have fun. Obviously they still work it out like your typical professional team, but LR also try and approach it with fun like the sky’s the limit. Just simply playing a game with the intent of just having fun, makes a huge change on your mental. (Edit: I think a great example of this is DRX 2022 Worlds with Deft). As a team, I feel like that can be a bliss feeling.
it's too early to say, they haven't played against any real challenges yet and haven't gone on a losing streak. We will see how their morale holds up as a team if they ever have bad streaks. That's the true test.
Liked the Naayil call discussing Aatrox matchups. Caedrel is one of the biggest League streamers and one thing he could do and that I'd love as a regular thing on stream for LR content is having high elo 1T/mains discuss champs/strats. Obv having analysts like Molecule is good but it's good to crowdsource info from mains and knowledgeable people.
he's going to be doing a lot of that for his coaching
Afaik guys like Veigarv2, Molecule etc already have great contacts with soloQ OTPs, weird playstyle players and they often ask them about matchup both publicly and probably in DM. For example pros in Korea are doing it directly asking OTPs of their server for advice too. No shit the western players are worse if majority of them obviously consider soloQ players as insects not worthy of time to ask. For example Makkro - the best Ornn and probably tank player in EUW soloQ got asked/got his PoV viewed on Korea by multiple tier 1/ tier 2 pros but as he stated NONE pro in EU ever reached out to him. As a result ours Ornn build like ass, played like ass and as a result looks like ass
That’s very interesting I suppose now since it is fearless draft you would need to consider even more factors and not only players but coaches have to up their levels
replying to bump this idea
They could also try offstream what bb did. IIRC bb said he practiced laning alot against alphari I think and that helped him during MSI.
You can always try and seek knowledge somewhere and that can help you have a broader point of view
completely sprinting it and winning 3-1 is insane
The clutch factor still in there😂
The g2 classic
T1 special
They got VERY lucky. Should have been a 3-0 lose but agurin teammates are too bad
@@egozocker14 hey are just too old lol. they have 2 chall and 2 masters. its not even bad
Damn dude was completely depressed by the performance
they are literally miles above everyone else in that tourney, maybe except the french team. i see how it would be depressing to perform like that against lower teams
@@equinox85it's like in lckwhen hle/geng/t1 have close games vs Bro or fox it doesn't matter that you won if its close it's bad because you are way better than them
The Naayil part was really good and pleasant. Not only did it confirm Baus's opinion, it's also good to see people willing to share knowledge, and what Caedrel can bring as a coach - refering to the right people without any ego. Keep at it rats !
Baus should have raised it too. He needs to find his voice in draft.
@@cleiru7859 He said it after the game, that Kled was a fake counter.
I mean baus did say he could pick ambessa and caedrel denied it i think
@@cleiru7859you need to give him time, he will naturally gain confidence but you can’t force it otherwise it might go wrong. Let him naturally find his voice, he has the knowledge, but also knows that is experience is much lower compared to everyone else.
@@cleiru7859 baus literally said he wanted ambessa in draft and kadrel said go kled did you even watch the draft my guy?
we are here for the updownupdown of following a team. dont worry about the viewers caedrel. we're still 💯 percent invested
I feel like as long as there's no drama/toxicity, they'll be fine.
I feel like NNO doing drafts and strats good today. They played around jg well and utilized good wave clear ability to counter 4-1 split. They are ahead in most objective setups (or at least grouped more decisively) and focus on drakes stack. On the other hand LR as a team focus heavily on grubs not really have good controls on grubs across the whole series, ofc the clutch factor in the end saved LR.
Edit: also I feels like team needs a bit more pinks. Baus and Neme bearly buy any pinks, didn’t watch much Velja and Crownie’s POV.
Neme and Baus are so used to "cheating" items faster by not buying pinks and instead relying on pure game sense.
Its 100% OP in solo q where hitting your items first in a clown fiesta like Solo Q is King.
But competetive its all about timings around objectives and grouping to win the vision war.
Like getting your ludens 5 minutes before 2nd drake dosent really do anything unless the enemy does something stupid.
@@richter9485It gives agency and options. It's a less consistent playstyle but it allows you to peak harder if that makes sense.
@@richter9485 lsGIGA
Yeah pretty objectively pinks are absolutely broken in pro play/any organized 5 man games and absolutely worthless on ladder.
Baus and Velja need time to find their voice in the team... I am sure its hard for them because Crown is really vocal so it feels like everyone is just expecting him to call everything and they probably feel scared to call a play just in case it goes wrong. A lot of it just needs time
Caedrel needs to call less shots, I think. His calls are great, but the other guys need to find their voice whether it's a wrong call or not. They should play a game where only one player would call the shots and it'll alternate between everyone of them
Baus has come a long way since the first scrims we saw, I think his calls are getting better
We also gotta remember that baus is not a former pro like the other guys. Nem and cownie (and rekkles obviously when he comes) are all experienced pros who have played on big stages. Baus is just learning how to play competitively. He will find his voice, but it’s going to take time. Think about it- he’s played like 10 competitive games and the other guys have literally played years in the LEC. We can’t expect him to play like a pro after 1.5 weeks of being with the team
@@jackg2630 he was a sub for g2 so he might be used to competitive
@@Euu_-tc6hz Nah, I'm fairly certain it's been confirmed from multiple sources (including baus himself) that him being a "sub" on G2 was more of a marketing stint type thing
I do fear that the rest of the team is gonna pick up on Caedrel's negativity, reflection and constructive criticism are important but you can't spiral because of disappointment, everything's gonna seem way worse when you're in that mental and the team will pick up on it
Resentment will build if you just bite your tongue when disappointed though so there's a healthy middle ground to be found i think
Lowkey true. Being perfectionist isn't always the best i suppose. Like the only guy who seems to enjoy himself is after wins is Baus. Meanwhile cadrel always tryna find mistakes xD
@FredEmpty he's the coach though, he has to look for mistakes. They're going to play vs T1 every single mistake can equal a loss. Especially as the coach this is literally his entire job
I think you're right. Especially since they will play with Rekkles the rest of the year anyways. Its okay to be dissappointed, but no need to let the negative thoughts take over the positive ones.
Team atmosphere will change when Rekkles comes in. So better to try to give your best now & just let things happen as they go until Rekkles joins
@@PastaDiMama44 i like rekless but u are aware hes one of the most negative/pessimistic people in entire lec right? pretty much everyone whos played with him has said that, its not malicious, he is just not optimistic
@@NeptuneSXDL If you are Caedral and think you have a realistic chance of beating T1 that aren't trolling you are delusional. T1 should not be on their minds at all it's a content match. Their opponents at their level is what they should worry about if they are actually serious about this whole pro thing.
Bro that conversation with Yamato, they should rlly get him as a coaching staff he had some rlly good perspectives and views
i mean he is one of the best coaches in europe up there with dylan falco
@@yihadistxdl951hes good but comparing him with dylan is a bit much, yamato has no lec title and 2 worlds appearances where he bombed out of group, not that impressive
@@dennoplit well you kind of have to consider the teams as well. he had the decent fnatic roster that was doing decently the whole time he was coaching them and then he had the trainwreck kc roster that was guaranteed last place even if they had dylan. and dylan has g2. i think this purely result-based comparisons are really unfair cuz it ignores all the nuance. its not just black and white. but yes obviously dylan is the best coach in europe thats uncontested. but im just saying yamatocannon is definitely up there with him and veigarv2 when it comes to coaches from europe. although veigarv2 is in the lcs right now. hes probably the closest one to dylan in terms of coaching skill. id put yamato third honestly when it comes to coaches in europe
@yihadistxdl951 Yamato has failed with every team/super team he has coached.
@@yihadistxdl951 sure but i still think that between dylan and the second there is a landslide tho
You inted the the champions select more in my opinion. First Game only 1 Ap into tank Sion and second game Baus wanted to play Ambessa into Aatrox and you insta denied it without discussion. But Ill add that your flanks were fucking insane 5 head. That comeback was amazing to see. Keep it going and don't be to harsh on your teamates and yourself. You gotta believe man! Your team does
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I think they should hire a psychologist to help them when they feel these things, I believe this because Caedrel's phrase "We won, we participate in the RedBull tournament and I don't feel happy now" is something important to consider. I know it's a feeling that probably lasted a couple of hours but it's important to train yourself to know how to react to these feelings in the moment, especially if you have to deal with 5 players that think/feel the same way or worst (And considering the pressure that means, it's a good idea).
1000% agree with this. Sports psychologists are an essential part of any team and if they want to perform at their best their mental has to really be worked on.
this isn't a bad idea but teams need to stay in budget somehow. Also you can both win a match and feel dissapointed with your performance. It's a very common phenomenon.
I would bet part of t1 super power over the years was just that. Controlling there emotions and never getting too high or low after winning or losing.
no, the feeling is valid and needed,
they performed poorly relative to their ceiling and instead of hiring a psychologist, they need to fix their game!
Astralis strat
The power of friendship is strong in this team.
I guess it's fair to be disappointed in the performance but as a viewer this is the funnest shit I have seen in a minute lmao, the clutch factor is crazy.
Just my take, but sorry Caedrel, please listen more to your laner's opinion regarding the champ pick. They play their lane (Bauss and Nemesis, for example) for many years, so their opinion matters too.
When he forced Bauss on Kled, I laughed my ass off knowing Bauss didn't like it and will complain after the game ends, which legit xdd. Hope you can play as clean as you want with the next opponent.
Definitely needs to be more of an open dialogue about this prior to official games. How can they enter draft and the person dictating draft (Caedrel) doesn't know that Baus hates to play Kled into Aatrox? These are things that should be ironed out before champ select / OR, Caedrel needs to defer to their understanding of matchups with a lot more humility. Brokenblade incorrectly feeling Kled is good vs Aatrox has NO relevance to Baus' understanding of the matchup as a prior Kled OTP and EUWs highest elo Kled player. And this is not to flame Caedrel, amazing leader, but the aforementioned problems were really blatant in this series and they need to be fixed ASAP
@@stevenb3854 I already yapped about it under another comment. But Nemesis legitimately soft inted that game on purpose after he was forced on Galio. And then Baus who made kled work eventually in the game cause their opponents suck ass. Says after he carries Caedral's useless ass, "I'm not playing that match up ever again Caedral" and then Caedral just scoffs like "What?" as if it's Incomprehensible that Baus won't play a sh1t champ like kled cause some random pro said it's good. Just like Baus said to caedral "You're not Keria little bro" your players are their own people they have their own preferences, listen to them, he's just lucky Baus is unbreakable mentally and didn't throw on purpose like nemesis did on Galio. Bro acts like they are npcs that should just do what he says, he has zero thought for their experience playing their lane.
@@bradhurst6834 And it was coming from baus too. One of the better kled players on the server. He can, and has played kled. OFC he knows his matchups. He plays challenger every split.
Holy shit baus vindicated that guy said the exact same thing. Fake counter
"that guy" is one of the best (if not the best) aatrox player and is an OTP lmao so it's even funnier
@@xenio8736 What's insane is that if you watch the game from Baus' perspective, he actually carried that game
Baus literally said he didn't want Kled in that matchup, but Caedrel picked it for him anyway.
He did so well given he didn't want the match up, bro was clean with it. Here's hoping he's a little more forceful with his opinions in future.
@@ArenDsiireor caedrel respecting what baus says more instead of insisting so strongly on something he is not 100% about
@@ArenDsiire Coach is a manager type role. Give ideas, receive feedback, come to conclusion that works for everyone. Not a dictator that forces Baus and Nemesis on characters they don't want to play, a good "coach" figures out a compromise and if one can't be found just lets the player play what they want to play. Caedral treats them like npcs.
Playing Braum Galio and not peeling for a fed Smolder might be a problem. Braum has no reason to leave Smolder alone.
5:33 he even said that he felt useful in the Braum game. 😂😂
“I could play Jinx but no offense you peel zero for me so better play Xayah” 💀 Crownie knows whats up
At the end of the day. You have Baus, people shit on him. May be the best late game player ever.
Hahah good one
He's good because he has that mentality of never giving up.
In the Scrims NNO didnt play with their real team. They had another bot side.
imagine the coach getting so disheartened by his personal gameplay in a series. I have no hate toward caedrel but if he wants to be the coach for the team, then he needs to be that. He may be supp at the moment but it is not permanent. The focus should be on building the team instead of getting depressed like he just lost worlds finals. That is not his role.
I think this team has potential but if caedrel burns out before he is in the postion he is meant to be then it is bad all around
much love cadrel gl
Broad takeaways:
* Flowchart the players' matchup preferences and factor that into draft strats
* Get other players talking more
* Give your mental some TLC
This ain't finals and you ain't the support. You're the coach and it's preseason tune-ups. You've learned a lot about what the team does well and where it can improve, while winning a bunch on stream and providing great content. That's worth celebrating.
Your job from here is to step back towards that coaching role: working with players on draft, guiding them towards doing their own shotcalling, and supporting their mental. Your mental, too - it's been weeks, don't burn yourself out before you get off the ground.
It's hard to say "oh Baus had so many useless deaths" or "oh Velja was super dizzy on the map" when tbh LR was just playing 4v5 this series. Idk if Caedrel had a headache or something but this was a piss-poor performance even for him, just compared to the last series vs. the polish team. He was consistently missing skillshots, refusing to peel for Crownie and not hitting level 6 until 15 minutes. By the 4th game he wasn't even really shotcalling, which was sad to see, but at least Crownie stepped up majorly.
He already did say that he had a very bad performance tho
@@cruxx2749 Yeah, I'm just questioning how accurately you can judge other people's performances in that situation. Like for example is Velja's play bad because of what he's doing or because _any_ play would've been bad without a support? Saying 'You should've played safe 24/7 because I'm gonna int you if you try anything' isn't exactly constructive feedback, basically.
I think he complains to much about baus. Baus been saved them so many games.
The smolder game crowny kept asking for protection and they all just ignored him, in that game I do think nemesis was purposely trying to lose, he walked around aimlessly on the map avoiding mid not even farming, whining constantly to chat about how orianna is a bad matchup for galio, he was soft throwing by the end he was like 4 levels down. 4 levels down does not happen unless you are actively not playing which he wasn't. He didn't want to play galio instead of saying that he just passively inted and then said after game "I think this game was lost in draft" as if they didn't have braum volibear and galio and could just protect smolder and win easily.
@@mrmcawesome9746 He doesn't say anything and just goes in solo. These are his two biggest problems. Like today have me worried they legit need a new jungler cause if he's going to not talk and go in solo but he also isn't mechanically making up for it (Like baus and nemesis for example who make up for their lack of talking by playing very well overall) then he just useless.
this teams comeback-ability is actually insane though
IT was probably harder because Agurin is actually a good jungler keeping his jungler in check he cant make mistakes or hes punished.
Naayil is a real one for that
As a long time baus viewer, he definitely needs to communicate game state better, like ults, summs, when he sees somebody in his lane and his lane opponents rotation, especially with his playstyle. Given how once he gains momentum in a game, he forces the enemy team to respond to him or else get continuously punished by his high tempo and pushing. Basically he needs to relay to the team the pressure and resources that he has absorbed.
On stream I noticed he plays better when he explains what he is doing and why he is doing it to chat, he should practice that more tbh, he has made crazy macro and micro plays like that and has bad deaths much less.
Another thing is when he is very confident with his plays and that he can beat somebody 1v1, it usually works out in his favor, his playstyle does insane amounts of limit testing (im not sure this applies to team fighting as much as 1v1 scenarios though). (Like game 2, when he kills ziggs/bard at the top/Baron fight, he knows he can get on and kill the ziggs, and he takes it, even though nemesis doubts and says "baus dead").
I also dont know how it plays out in competitive/pro play, but baus wins lane through macro, not necessarily counter picking his lane opponent. This is one reason his bausenlaw playstyle works. (Losing lane = farm, proxy, and pull pressure top. That way even if he technically loses lane. He forces enemy macro to answer him and threatens their tempo, which is where the rest of LR can take advantage).
LR is very entertaining, it is the only LOL team I follow, and I hope to watch you all succeed
have you seen baus doing scrims before? Dude basically never speaks up. I doubt he has the confidence to do it and he has a long way to go before he starts communicating. Even when explaining his thinking he stutters and gets slammed.
This. If anything should be taken away from these games and what could be done to improve, this and especially with how he's used to explain to chat what he's going to do. Give him a keyword to get your guys attention (he is btw lowest voice com in the chat, barely hear him, adjust his volume) and let him give you the lowdown of his strat. He'll learn to be more concise with practice. Make one scrim focus on this, let him have a comfort champ and let him shotcall through his lane and tempo.
Btw, this is the best thing since prime G2, never been as invested and had fun watching! Keep it up! And remember - losses are the best teachers! These were good games to learn from (win AND you learned, double-whammy!)
@@zachariz1490 He and velja[the other communication disaster] are both new to organized playstyle. Ofc he can't communicate well, he's only had like 2 weeks of scrims. They will get it up. Other 3 have all been pro players.
dont worry guys, rekkles will get this shit done (no shade caedrel no shade)
I feel like in older games the entire team played really well with Baus deaths or maybe he made his deaths more worth but I feel like in these recent games something shifted. Either everyone is together or no one is, but yeah, didnt like how you yall called him out for dying against Viego in a game today. Yeah, he could have recalled sooner and I think he messed up his wave clear there, he could have been faster or executed for the tower but in the end Viego was on him and not on grubs. You gotta let him do Baus, you gotta enable that and play around Baus law
Baus is so cute
Keep your heads up high guys, early games were mega rough but you'll get it again next series! You just started playing together, of course some series are gonna be rougher, you still won though, so well done!
Baus is probably the one that makes the most misplays in this team BUT also makes crazy outplays. But I actually watched that game(Kled vs Aatrox) from baus's perspective, and he was sooo good. He went 0-4 at the start(all ganks) but it wasn't really a misplay and put up crazy good fight. He was never behind despite the 0-4, and straight up went 8-4 by the end of the game. He actually lowkey carried that game. He was so ahead at by the end but still was having a hard time with aatrox. That matchup was really a fake counter. He'd have to counter build to easily win against aatrox but this game isn't a 1v1.
Baus is a beast, but he's so used to be on weak side, so his early game sometimes crumble. If he fixes that and gets more used to working with the team, he'll no doubt be at LEC level at some point.
@@Hunter-u7q he is good at strong-siding though. Kled game was astro-jungle-gap no?
@Anonymous-td9fl more or less. He said he can't do shit against Aatrox with kled. He carried in the end because he's the most consistent CSer I have ever seen outside of proplay teams, so he was still ahead of gold even when 0/4, but the early game was enterely for Aatrox even without Kha Zix
Insane to blame so much on Baus when you admit youre having a poor personal performance.
1. Forced Baus into a bad pick despite him not wanting to play it at all.
2. You know Baus' playstyle, play around it rather than try to "fix" him. He gains you so much map pressure every game during laning phase.
3. Once laning phase is over he is consistently the magic ingredient for the win. It's hard to blame him for much when he is honestly a win condition in of himself. If he doesnt solo end the game, hes usually wasted 40s of 3 players time and you should have a free map 2v4.
Im not close to anyone here's level but i think emotions and personal opinions of Baus are really getting in the way of what could be the team's best wildcard
Where did he blame Baus so much ?
Baus is an inter for sure but he is clutch. His Gragas is genuinely up to the standard and the Kled looked good late game
yamato was onpoint about baus point that his comm is so low that team didnt realize but what i see in all game scrim and tourney velja is really keen on listening to baus call so thats why some of his call become possible
"im not flaming any one" proceeseds to flame Bauss then learns the kled matchup is ASS from a Aatrox GOAT ....
Who was he talking to? Adam?
@@agogmystagogue5435 Naayil
@@agogmystagogue5435 Naayil, a pretty famous and accomplished(?) aatrox otp/main in EU
Once rek comes into the team, their options are going to be massively improved. They'll have the option for winning bot matchups, which opens up jungle pool for carry champs and they can cross map harder with Baus' split pressure. The fact that they've been crushing games this hard with essentially plat support (no offense to the rat) gameplay speaks volumes to their potential.
or their macro and shot calling is going to suffer so much they lose bc rekkles doesnt know how to open his mouth in korean or english
Support is more a knowledge diff than it is a lane diff. Yes, having a mechanical support is amazing and would be better obviously, but Caedrel with all his knowledge and knowing where to be, is most definitely not a plat level support, especially with reliable teammates.
Rekkles didn't even play one game yet and people already start preemptively flame him lol how much people are hating on Rekkles
@@unkxz9149 yeah we dont have like a decade of data on him great point, pls go on
@@eliastaveras1760 yeah "we" all know you have not gone through any of his scrims & proviews for "data". If you were slightly smarter you would be considered an idiot.
Not to hate but that Braum leaving their win condition Smolder alone is pretty disgusting. Like every team fight he' so far away from their ADC.
5:33 He even said that his Braum felt pretty useful LMAO.
Slacking on those drafts planning a bit, the 4th game Alistar sprint was 2nd to worst pick only behind Rell. The strategy maybe is to take 1 split pusher and 4 strong together.
You mentioned Maokai and Ambessa which were MUCH better if you know they will play 2 mages.
Ambesssa, Kayle, Fiora
Mundo, Udyr, Nunu were good here to force 4v3 dives
Hwei
Xayah
MYMAOKAI, Taric, Blitzcrank :D
Thoughts?
Love the content and journey, go LR!
team was way less than an issue than the picks/coaching decisions this series - bauss/neme carried every game, its you that needs to reflect
agurin lookin like a philosopher
I honestly never watched Caedrel and only startet because I really like Baus and Crownie but what is this negativity? I understand that they want to win and all it makes sense but he is constantly so giga negative about Baus when he is by far the biggest troll on the team.. I think he legit does not understand some of Baus impact which is honestly sad since he actually knows alot about the game.
He understands, He even said multiple times that Baus's play is creating tempo for the whole team. it's just in this particular series Baus has multiple deaths that in his opinion useless. If you watch the video he acknowledges that he trolled.
Also, Baus is not so thin-skinned that he cannot be criticized by his own coach.
It's just one clip bro
You must not watch much cause Caedrel has praised Baus the most.
I don't think you've seen enough clips. There are plenty where he says Baus is the reason they won games
@@Marlesden Weird but okay then. I have seen like only 2 or 3 short clips maybe they are not enough to convey the whole picture thank you for correctiing me. I was worried that it was a bit too one sided
@@dialgos7574 Even years ago Caedrel always praiised Baus about his playstyle including in korea
It’s a lot to sub in as support and be the coach at the same time, way to step up caedrel, we support you 100% 💯‼️
in game 3 , i feel like they lost bc they didin't know how hard the dwagon can carry , which is understandable since i don't remember them playing it in scrims , i also hoped they would pick kindred if they planned on galio in g3 and gave it to baus and let neme counter pick with taliyah since enemy team has to engage champsand give the dwagon more room in tf ...
Yeah dont put neme on galio he doesnt like it. But bausii on galio wouldve been amazing.
To be fair, NNO is really good and played as a team for years. LR won at the end so its fine (although it probably should have been a 0-3 or 1-3 win for NNO)
Agurin GAPPED velja, i feel velja should stick to nidalee, veigo and Vi... not saying his skarner nocturne is bad but he seems to be a snowball carry jungler, he needs a jungler that can bully enemy jungler early game
"plot armour", also known as Baus Penta
I think caedrel thinks about the pro meta too much when drafting these games. Don't play standard league. Let baus play his ambesaa/quinn.
man caedrel rly is locked in and taking it serious with los ratones, love it. once rekkles is here and he can fully concentrate on the coaching side of things its gonna be so interesting to see how good this team can get
The comeback Aura comes from not giving up and being super lethal with your finishes.
keep your chin up man. youre the coach, the players will look to you for leadership
you forget that broeki played sup in scrims and their sub was a jungle main playing adc, that 5:0 was kinda fake data
Why does Baus get hated this much? From his perspective, I think in the first two games, he was the one making the plays. Okay, maybe Game 3 wasn’t great, but overall, I think everyone played pretty badly that game. As for champion picks, you should listen to the players more. They are the ones laning, so you should at least consider their input. Baus wanted to play Ambessa, but you rejected it right away because you thought Kled beats Aatrox. I honestly don’t know how you came to that conclusion, because if you think about it carefully, you’d realize that Kled can’t win the Aatrox lane no matter what.
It should be noted that NNO is literally born to be the underdog comeback team. They have always been playing from this position and it has been their element. So do not worry too much, as it can happen to objectively better teams.
Keep at it caedrel, don't be too hard on yourselves, make sure all the relationships stay solid first and foremost, it's okay to drop games it's not okay to have a fractured team for the rest of the year, I believe in you rats! Lec next year?
I think the problem, which I noticed way back during his costreams, is that he always looks at things at an analytical standpoint. Or should I say on paper.
I hope Caedrel watches his vods from the latest worlds and realize that everytime he didn't like the one team's draft, they mostly win the game.
He don't like their drafts because he can see their comp in a disadvantage (analytically) against the opposing team, but they win it using their mechanical skills.
T1 proved time and time again, no matter how much they are in a disadvantage, one's mechanical skill (looks at Faker) can win a game by himself.
So I hope Caedrel learns to trust his team when they want to pick like Ambessa instead of rejecting it.
"Counters" or "disadvantages" only work when everyone is equal skill at their champ, if you take 5 OTP players with thousands of hours and 5 "counter/meta" players picking champs just cause they counter the enemy team in theory. I guarantee the OTP team will win easily most times.
nah its normal looks like caedrel has performance anxiety and not even as a league player but as a team coach and he wants everything to be perfect but its completely normal for a team to not always play at 100 percent so dont worry caedrel shit is good and you are doing a great job
if baus plays quinn then there needs to be other tanky champs in their comp, probably like skarner jng or galio mid and tanky sup (which is usually what they pick)
Have you heard Korean teams comms? They are constantly communicating. Baus only communicates when he’s backing, has TP or is getting dove. He needs to communicate more during the match. The more info the better. He’s a good player micro and macro but he needs to be better at being a teammate as well. This isn’t solo queue anymore
imagine winning against t1 while baus being 3-10
Idk why LR are so focused around early plays and forcing them when their solo laners are among the best of the West in terms of understanding waves and macro in mid-late game. They just generating gold so much better than even majority of LCS/LEC players. So as a result team is behind A LOT in early from mistakes of multiple people of a team, then due to some black magic of side laning and trading around the map Baus/Nemesis got fed, they find a miracle play and turn the game around. It happens so much might as well be a feature not a bug atp. Also Baus might be an inta in early but he is so obviously the most clutch player of LR. Let dude call his game when he is fed. I hear multiple times in coms from Neme/Crownie (and later on definitely Rekky will do it too) about "Hey lets go for drake/Nash. Lets back off for now" when Baus see an angle for engage, forced it in and they won
yamato is such a homie
ive never seen caedrel this stressed lol hope he holds in til el rekkel
where can i find the schedule for LR games? i keep missing them
Get Yamato as assistent coach or like mental coach or whatever
Don’t be so negative. One brash series yes, but does that decide the end all be all? No! You guys will make it through. Take mental breaks and recover. We all new this wasn’t gonna be easy and that it wasn’t gonna be a joyride. Oh but it’s close. Take it one step at a time and as far as possible!
Good luck for your team ❤
Nemesis f'ing smurfing with the Hwei that game in the background.
I dont think nemmy wants galio, btw. That's what I learned from this series. He played impeccable all 3 other games, but the galio game, he did not like it.
This was bound to happen. Nemesis and Crownie are both mechanically great pros who got dropped from pro play primarily because they did not communicate well, Baus and Velja are soloq players so they don't have any experience communicating, and Caedrel has said in the past that he thinks he failed as a pro because he didn't speak up enough. Once they sort out their communication issues the gameplay will improve too
Its okay LR
its also kind of especially bad because NNO didnt scrim at all up until the first game they played against you guys in scrimms. NNO was basically completely out of practice
I didn't follow these last few days... What happened? From looking at the brackets they won, no? So is Caedrel just upset they didn't stomp them as hard as he wanted LR to stomp?
He explains it well in the video
@@RexyyKzK not specifically? Just said they didn't play well and Baus had useless deaths
They technically won, but they consistently lost early game. It's not a good thing for them to rely on being clutch to win back mid-late game. They're going to lose against a team that can snowball the lead that LR keeps throwing to their opponents.
It's not a matter of stomp. Yes they won but it wasn't clean. Reflecting on their 5-0 record in scrims, he mentions how the series felt unbelievably hard and they had bad macro which didn't occur during scrims. It's either the enemy team just leveled up (they didn't - again, he mentions this) or they were playing bad and that needs to be addressed.
It was very messy game looked like fnatic was playing
Focusing on the negative gonna take a toll on you. In every post match reviews you always give criticism to your players (you always harsh on baus for some reason even if he play well)
Listen to your team more and try to give more carrots instead of stick. Positive reviews will boost your team morale. Good luck on your next match caedrel
this makes no sense you picked up thebausffs and you want to make him a fcking theAntonio. Let him play what he feels and if you lose you lose, this is only for fun team or what? I can't imagine ppl flaming thebaus after he just ints few games just like he does all his life.
i would have loved to see Baus work with yamato
Caedral needs duoking1 coaching treatment on support and its all good
Naayil just best
So this team is only gonna exist for a year?
contract is one year, we dont know whats the next step after it
Lost 1 game from every game so far and already depresso lol Marc, c'mon! Don't get down! HEADS UP!
baus can play fiora into aatrox though
Def think caedrel needs a stronger mental at this stage. You don’t have the sponsors and rep yet to keep this thing going monetarily with a mental collapse. The team literally wouldn’t survive. Yall need to ride off the hype until the investors bite on it and give you the support to keep it going.
I'm on my channels to bring Rekky back with new teleports
Sadly, it's just kind of delusional to base everything on the fact that they went 5-0 in scrims and that they should 3-0 them without a problem in the actual tournament because NNO as a team have played competitively and in scrims they weren't even the actual roster. You guys didn't just lose all early games because you played worse, but because they played better.
I always said. To dom Ls any streamer that says what are they doing. Follow by they should know that x is going to happened. Its so easy to criticizes when you have 100% information. Now there playing why are they doing so many mistakes.
You 5-0ed them on scrims remember guys t1 got 20 losses on scrim against gen g and they got 10 losses on official games. Don't be too hard on yourself.
Caedrel HCoach and Yamato ACoach?
I dont get it, didnt they won 3-1? what happened?
i thought rekkles was the support?
what is caedrel playing?
did they lose already? where's the update?
when will rekkles join?
It's not plot armour, it's competition. For every mistake you guys made, so did your opponents.
The difference maker is you all have shown unreal mentality through each and every game. That intangible is more valuable than any skillshot or item purchase.
why do ppl think scrims and real match is even the same? i dunno bro im no caster or shit but pls explain
A lot of the lvl 1s really screwed you
This is like the 4th time I have heard you complain about Baus's death. Yeah losing sucks and can have a negative impact on you but I really hope that you picked him knowing that he either ints or smurfs there is no in between with this guy.
I absolutely hate this video because of how sad you sound. Negativity spreads faster than positivity. I am praying that the team doesn't die due to the negativity.
I think you guys need more scrim time. But also one thing I have always disliked about pro league is the need to always fit into the meta. Meta exists for a reason but having niche picks is always a good card to have up your sleeve. And as Nayil said, youre the rats. Let your players play their game, and fine tune from there. Just like in real sports, every position has a job but that doesnt mean every player has to fit that mold. Bobby Ore was a defensmen in hockey, but he was a phenominal player known for his speed and offensive plays. Just some food for thought.
Can anyone explain why he's disappointed?
mostly from his misplays and some useless death from Baus, basically pressure got on them
lmao i thought agurin was yassuo