I think it's too much! it's leaking like this, and it goes right under the safety tape. lay a thin layer on the surface of the APU and radiator, then draw the excess into the syringe! Never leave unnecessary drops!
I saw it drop when I was watching this on my smart tv so I came here to mention this as well, lets hope he got it off, or sees this and checks it before it does something bad.
It would be really interesting to see you tackle things like installing HDMI mods or Terraonion MODE mods into old consoles like the Dreamcast, Saturn and OG Playstation on the channel.
The (likely nickel) coating on the copper heatsink is just that, a coating. It protects the heatsink from degradation from the gallium in the TIM, and so when spreading it back to the centre, it's probably not recommended to use a metal pick or screwdriver unless you've very careful. A graze is enough to allow permeability into the copper. Better to use a plastic or Teflon tool, in my opinion. TronicsFix was clearly very gentle using the dull curve of the pick and dragged at the surface tension of the fluid when he did it, he's not an idiot, but hearing "screwdriver" made me wince a bit. Especially when this channel shows us the kind of chimps that try to fix these things sometimes.
This man was so much happy with the perfect amount of thermal paste now its unimaginable how much he will be happy with perfect amount of liquid metal 😊
My primary concern with LM is longevity. I've never used it personally but what I understand it needs to be reapplied every 1-2 years because it dries out quicker than a good thermal paste does. So I do wonder if in 2-3 years time we won't have a bunch of overheating PS5's to worry about.
My concern with the liquid metal is its longevity. Specifically the longevity of the materials required to make it not ruin the rest of the system, since as that foam pad and its adhesive ages I don't know if it's going to slowly let the liquid metal leak.
There’s a great ps5 silicone thermal pad video on YT but it’s in German. Would be awesome if you did a video on replacing the stock thermal puddy with proper thickness silicone pads
Is there any chance of the liquid metal causing issues during operation if you keep the system vertical? Seems like horizontal would be the ideal way to use the ps5 based on the viscosity of the liquid metal? Maybe I’m being paranoid.
The Terminator: Not like me, T-1000, advanced prototype. Made of mimetic polyalloy John Connor: What the hell does that mean? The Terminator: Liquid metal.
I've seen a lot of Gamer's Nexus videos on this topic. They made a big deal that you should never allow it to pool up. So based on that, this is too much liquid metal. However from what I've seen Sony themselves seems to put on too much as well. Maybe that's why they have so much protection because automating the perfect amount is too difficult. It's actually surprising how little gamer's nexus and De-Bauer use.
@@Tronicsfix yeah I've noticed that. I thought it was kind of odd. But then again it's probably a lot harder to get the perfect amount in a massive heat sync rather than a tiny IHS. The only thing that really matters is that the tiny SMD's don't get touched. In most of those videos I've seen, they'll put fingernail polish over them to prevent issues.
The material safety data sheet says that Thermal Grizley Konductonaut is an alloy of Gallium, Indium, and Tin. No report on the % of each since that's not required for an MSDS. But that's the metals that are in it.
I wonder what happens when the foam barrier inevitable disintegrates (unless this foam is special in some way?) What will stop the LM from flowing onto sensitive components?
I'm sure they made sure of it time will tell. Even then that spongey material acts like a second barrier. It's likely extra protection in case it escapes.
Very nice breakdown. I thought you added too much liquid metal, but when you opened it up again it seemed perfect haha. I wonder what type of adhesive it is holding the foam border down. Looks rubbery. I don't think I'd be comfortable replacing it without new adhesive personally. Nice work!
Probably not, since it's thousands of tiny solder balls... let alone matching the NAND to the controller and such... If the NAND wears out, you're probably better off buying a new PS5...
I bought my oldest son a ps5 and my youngest son put like 3 cds in it and I pulled them out but it will pull them in and try to read them but it doesn’t what can I do
@9:25 Can those components be covered with nail polish (I think that's what some techs use) to keep the liquid metal from damaging them if (God forbid) they ever got any on them? Or what's that other liquid you use to cover traces and UV cure them, maybe that could work too?
I ran into problems using Conductonaut, it just turnes into dust after a couple of months. The cooler was made out of copper, so that isn't the problem.
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If that liquid metal stuff has gallium in it, it will start to destroy aluminium if it contaminates it by creating an alloy amalgam similar to what mercury does does to aluminium.
You said you was using liquid metal you had from abother ps5 did you not use the grizzly kind you showed in the video. Do you think we will need to change the liquid metal similar to how we treated thermal paste . ? Maybe a longer window or time befoe it goes bad. How would one even know if the liquid metal was bad and or needed changed... so many questions still about my new console .... thats why i been subbed i want to learn to....
I have a dumb question? Can you use liquid metal on a PS4 instead of thermal paste? And which is better? Only asking cause I don't know. Love your channel. Keep up the great work
Steve make some ReBallling videos, people are gonna need to Replace those SSD Nands, in a year or two. Dunno why just sony went ahead at decided to solder them on the Mobo, Reballing isn't easy.
Wouldnt it be easier and safer to put heat sink on motherboard instead of other way around - the way like you did it? It would be just chillin, not moving, so no risk spilling it around.
I just need to learn how to clean my ps5, is alredy getting dirty, also what is the perfect tool to clean my ps5 cause I don't want to use air cans I want something that's sucks in the dust
I'm not a fan of liquid metal as a tim, back in the day when I was chasing the 3ghz single core overclock I tried it out and it was bloody fiddly and too much would squirt out and too little and that was another chip fried. I am a fan of peltier's and a decent waterblock which uses electricity to create a super cold side to the cpu and using its thermal pump action channels heat to be dumped by your waterblock, in fact they were so efficient you had to protect the components from condensation and frosting, the hotter the cpu, the more condensation and cooling.
From what I have heard as well it should also prevent the liquid metal from oxidation, so it will last a lot longer than on a normal pc. Maybe it will even last forever, but its hard to tell
I assume the engineers thought of this, but I wonder then, since it has the tendency to pool, if a standing PS5 is less efficient at heat transfer than a horizontal one, or if the pressure given by the brackets on the heat sink prevent the metal from pooling.
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I just learned how to add the perfect amount of thermal paste. Now I need to learn the perfect amount of liquid metal
Dang it! Keep on learning I guess :)
I think it's too much! it's leaking like this, and it goes right under the safety tape. lay a thin layer on the surface of the APU and radiator, then draw the excess into the syringe! Never leave unnecessary drops!
@@thshit Way too much imo, not that it'll result in a bad heat dissipation, just not worth it regarding the price of a small quantity of kryonaut.
Liquid metal is like culture, the less you have, the more you spread it.
@@thshit Its the perfect amount you silly pay attention.
Her: "I bet he's thinking about other women"
Me: "I wonder if I could ever apply the perfect amount of liquid metal"
hahahahaha!
7:08 you lost a tiny little piece directly on the conductor track (buses)
how did u even see that
IT'S ON THE TRACE! AHHHHH!
Yep I saw it too I hope he got it
Yess It gave me anxiety ffs
I saw it drop when I was watching this on my smart tv so I came here to mention this as well, lets hope he got it off, or sees this and checks it before it does something bad.
It would be really interesting to see you tackle things like installing HDMI mods or Terraonion MODE mods into old consoles like the Dreamcast, Saturn and OG Playstation on the channel.
I would love that!
The (likely nickel) coating on the copper heatsink is just that, a coating. It protects the heatsink from degradation from the gallium in the TIM, and so when spreading it back to the centre, it's probably not recommended to use a metal pick or screwdriver unless you've very careful. A graze is enough to allow permeability into the copper. Better to use a plastic or Teflon tool, in my opinion.
TronicsFix was clearly very gentle using the dull curve of the pick and dragged at the surface tension of the fluid when he did it, he's not an idiot, but hearing "screwdriver" made me wince a bit. Especially when this channel shows us the kind of chimps that try to fix these things sometimes.
Awesome Steve, people are definitely going to need this video
Hope so!
Definitely, havn't done a ps5 myself yet but If i ever do in the future i now will know what and what not to to do.!
This man was so much happy with the perfect amount of thermal paste now its unimaginable how much he will be happy with perfect amount of liquid metal 😊
There's something about console repair I can watch it all day and you do a awesome work/explaining on how to do it .
My primary concern with LM is longevity. I've never used it personally but what I understand it needs to be reapplied every 1-2 years because it dries out quicker than a good thermal paste does. So I do wonder if in 2-3 years time we won't have a bunch of overheating PS5's to worry about.
It should last much longer than that but time will tell.
love the content! is there any interest in older consoles? I really enjoy the repair challenges!
I'll probably do some older consoles at some point.
Steve, you are an inspiration. I learned all my console cleaning skills from you.
You're one of those few non narcissistic people man. Keep it up.
Glad to help
Same ive became way more confident taking apart stuff
10:00 Thats the result of LM reacting with the silicon, you can remove that layer by doing die lapping but it won't make any difference in thermals.
I haven't messed with liquid metal yet, but I got to apply the perfect amount of thermal paste today, thanks to you! You would have been proud. haha
That's the t-1000's great-great grandfather that you are handling there, please be careful : )
My concern with the liquid metal is its longevity. Specifically the longevity of the materials required to make it not ruin the rest of the system, since as that foam pad and its adhesive ages I don't know if it's going to slowly let the liquid metal leak.
Smiling when he says "the perfect amount of Liquid metal" 😂 He knows what the lads want
Lol
@@Tronicsfix hi i have question u said if i removed the peace i cant put it back
There’s a great ps5 silicone thermal pad video on YT but it’s in German. Would be awesome if you did a video on replacing the stock thermal puddy with proper thickness silicone pads
Your hair seems to grow super fast 😲
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the liquid metal will be much harder to take off and re-apply later in the future :(
But WHY would I need to replace it? Is it going to evaporate out over time..?
Me during the week: ughhhh... why won’t it end!?
Me at 10 AM on Friday: Finally, the end of the week is here.
I don’t even have a ps5...
Man I hate using this stuff. Great vid as always!
Ya, not my favorite either.
Is there any chance of the liquid metal causing issues during operation if you keep the system vertical? Seems like horizontal would be the ideal way to use the ps5 based on the viscosity of the liquid metal? Maybe I’m being paranoid.
Wow ! The disassemble of the ps5 is really cool compared to the ps4 pro...I'll never forget this power supply connector... great video !
Before watching, I already know it will be the perfect amount.
Lol!
Pfft. It was clearly way too much! 😡
Pfft. It was clearly far too little! 😡
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And why would you replace it?
If you remove the board and you aren't paying attention and drop it on the ground or it gets contaminated with something when you have it apart, etc.
Totally learned a lot in this video. Are you going to fix more broken PS5s after this?
Of course! I've got a PS5 digital here just waiting to be fixed!
@@Tronicsfix cool can't wait
Would have epxected a better gasket for the seal, but if it works it works
Thank you and your teams efforts to produce high quality, informative, and entertaining content. Awesome
Gotta say about your sponsor, I love my Ridge Wallet. I won't go back to the traditional back pocket wallets.
I love mine too!
Can you replace the aluminium heat sync on a ps4 slim to a copper/nickel one and add liquid metal
would reapplying liquid metal fix overheating issues on a ps5 ?
Steve, the FTC disclaimer text in your description refers to "readers". I think that should be "viewers"?
I was wondering if it was going to be the perfect amount of liquid metal. I'm glad to see that it was.
Ha, ha...yes!
Please make more long videos as there is A lot of enjoyment
Would love to. Unfortunately, those sometimes take weeks to make so I can only do them once in a while.
@@Tronicsfix it's ok we still have enjoyed all of your videos and will continue to👍
I swear that while he was working on that, I could hear a voice saying, "Call to John." 😂
The Terminator: Not like me, T-1000, advanced prototype. Made of mimetic polyalloy
John Connor: What the hell does that mean?
The Terminator: Liquid metal.
Not even the Master of Thermal paste but now you are the Master of Liquid Metal. Itwas very interesting.
I managed to replace a iPhone 5s screen a few days ago it was really cool seeing inside an iPhone
I've seen a lot of Gamer's Nexus videos on this topic. They made a big deal that you should never allow it to pool up. So based on that, this is too much liquid metal. However from what I've seen Sony themselves seems to put on too much as well. Maybe that's why they have so much protection because automating the perfect amount is too difficult. It's actually surprising how little gamer's nexus and De-Bauer use.
On the other hand all the videos I've seen were putting it inside the IHS.........and there is none in this case. So who knows.
When you remove the motherboard from a PS5 the first time it's definitely in a pool. They use a ton of it so that's why I put that much on.
@@Tronicsfix yeah I've noticed that. I thought it was kind of odd. But then again it's probably a lot harder to get the perfect amount in a massive heat sync rather than a tiny IHS. The only thing that really matters is that the tiny SMD's don't get touched. In most of those videos I've seen, they'll put fingernail polish over them to prevent issues.
Do I need to change the liquid metal over the time? In the same way as with thermal paste
The material safety data sheet says that Thermal Grizley Konductonaut is an alloy of Gallium, Indium, and Tin. No report on the % of each since that's not required for an MSDS. But that's the metals that are in it.
Just found your channel and really love these videos. I can't afford a console, so I kind of live vicariously through you lol.
I've thought about putting liquid metal on my Series X like I did my One X but it's honestly so quiet I don't need to.
Video request: Can show if there is a motherboard difference between the ps5 controller models?
CNCID/ICID/ICID extra info
I haven't owned a console since the Gamecube, since all of my games come through Steam, but this was fun to watch :3
11:48 The perfect amount of liquid metal thermal paste.
Do a similar video when u made a hole on the ps4. Lets see if the ps5 runs cooler with a hole on sides or without the panels
Good idea
I wonder what happens when the foam barrier inevitable disintegrates (unless this foam is special in some way?) What will stop the LM from flowing onto sensitive components?
I'm sure they made sure of it time will tell. Even then that spongey material acts like a second barrier. It's likely extra protection in case it escapes.
Does liquid metal perish with time and heat like thermal paste does, and needs changing - or being just a metal will last the console lifetime?
Hope i won’t need to replace that too soon 😬
No...it should last a VERY long time!
@Dr House serious ? Thats interesting.. im still learning all this new ps5 stuff
Very nice breakdown. I thought you added too much liquid metal, but when you opened it up again it seemed perfect haha.
I wonder what type of adhesive it is holding the foam border down. Looks rubbery. I don't think I'd be comfortable replacing it without new adhesive personally.
Nice work!
I'd like to see you build a kick ass pc with all the mods etc
Hey Steve, could you make a video about PS5 NAND flash replacement?
I'm wondering if it's repairable when the SSD wears out.
Probably won't be making that video.
Probably not, since it's thousands of tiny solder balls... let alone matching the NAND to the controller and such...
If the NAND wears out, you're probably better off buying a new PS5...
The perfect amount of TronicsFix
Absolutely rolling at the sponsor segment, never knew you could grow your hair instantly!
does liquid metal prone to leak? if you put your PS5 on vertical stand
I bought my oldest son a ps5 and my youngest son put like 3 cds in it and I pulled them out but it will pull them in and try to read them but it doesn’t what can I do
What would you recommend when to clean a ps5?
All depends on how dirty it is. If there's dust on the vents it needs to be cleaned...at least on the outside.
I set mine up horizontally because I was always nervous about the liquid metal running out of it over time.
I’m still amazes that the Terminator is made of this goo.
I love liquid metal. My favorite channel on SiriusXM
can you make a video transferring ps5 liquid metal on to a xbox series x reusing the barrier
Wouldn't mind seeing a digital ps5 and looking at the difference and seeing if you can attach a disk drive to it
10:40
The residue looks like ghostly E.T. 😂😂 Great video!!
Steve the Grandmaster of The Perfect amount of Thermalpaste. Now also got advanced to The Master of the perfect amount of Liquid Metal.
@9:25 Can those components be covered with nail polish (I think that's what some techs use) to keep the liquid metal from damaging them if (God forbid) they ever got any on them? Or what's that other liquid you use to cover traces and UV cure them, maybe that could work too?
Yes, but I usually use conformal coating.
Conformal coating on non-potted IP68 rated boards is a pain to work on replacing components... how do you get it off ?
Another quality video.Always gets my vote.
I ran into problems using Conductonaut, it just turnes into dust after a couple of months. The cooler was made out of copper, so that isn't the problem.
Very Intresting in deed! Thanks - Jass
Fascinating tech, wonder when it will be mainstream...cheers.
How much time do you have to wait to apply new liquid metal I heard it lasts longer than thermal paste
Yes, it should last a VERY long time.
@@Tronicsfix ok thanks have a good day
One question Steve, is it unsafe to use IPA to clean the liquid metal?
It's safe to use to clean LM
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Do they have a factory outlet where you can buy all kinds of interesting medical stuff at decent discount?
@@herrakaarme not that I know
That Ridged Wallet is legit. Like the Forged Ember but it's sold out.
And the perfect amount of (as Steve says) “liquid metal”. Love your vids man keep it up
Thanks!
Terminator 2 confirmed, inside your PS5!
If that liquid metal stuff has gallium in it, it will start to destroy aluminium if it contaminates it by creating an alloy amalgam similar to what mercury does does to aluminium.
Yep, that's why I never recommend using it on aluminum.
Steve ps5 disc drive swap video ?
We as fans need "the perfect amount of thermal paste" tshirts!!
Awesome Video Steve havn't worked on a ps5 myself yet but at least now when I do I will know exactly what to do and what not to do very informal!
You said you was using liquid metal you had from abother ps5 did you not use the grizzly kind you showed in the video. Do you think we will need to change the liquid metal similar to how we treated thermal paste . ? Maybe a longer window or time befoe it goes bad. How would one even know if the liquid metal was bad and or needed changed... so many questions still about my new console .... thats why i been subbed i want to learn to....
I have a dumb question? Can you use liquid metal on a PS4 instead of thermal paste? And which is better? Only asking cause I don't know. Love your channel. Keep up the great work
Steve make some ReBallling videos, people are gonna need to Replace those SSD Nands, in a year or two. Dunno why just sony went ahead at decided to solder them on the Mobo, Reballing isn't easy.
Don't think you need to replace it, iirc
Does it effervesce or lose efficacy in any way over time?
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You're welcome 😊
Wouldnt it be easier and safer to put heat sink on motherboard instead of other way around - the way like you did it? It would be just chillin, not moving, so no risk spilling it around.
I just need to learn how to clean my ps5, is alredy getting dirty, also what is the perfect tool to clean my ps5 cause I don't want to use air cans I want something that's sucks in the dust
Just out of curiousity, can you, by any, chance test Kryonaut vs Liquid Metal, and show the thermal/temperatur differences on PS5 Models?
all of this was very interesting, but why did u changed it?
Does the thermal grizzly compound preform better than the stock liquid metal? If so, is it worth replacing the stock with that compound?
Why would you not use the new Conductonaut if you already had it? Seems weird using old liquid metal when you have new stuff there.
I'm not a fan of liquid metal as a tim, back in the day when I was chasing the 3ghz single core overclock I tried it out and it was bloody fiddly and too much would squirt out and too little and that was another chip fried. I am a fan of peltier's and a decent waterblock which uses electricity to create a super cold side to the cpu and using its thermal pump action channels heat to be dumped by your waterblock, in fact they were so efficient you had to protect the components from condensation and frosting, the hotter the cpu, the more condensation and cooling.
Thankfully Sony have used some wisdom and put a barrier near the APU chip, so the liquid metal doesn't spill all over the place
Yes, that's the key here!
From what I have heard as well it should also prevent the liquid metal from oxidation, so it will last a lot longer than on a normal pc. Maybe it will even last forever, but its hard to tell
Another very informative video.
Not even watched this yet, but I know it’ll be great 👍🏻
Ha, ha...thanks for the confidence!
@@Tronicsfix your welcome!
I assume the engineers thought of this, but I wonder then, since it has the tendency to pool, if a standing PS5 is less efficient at heat transfer than a horizontal one, or if the pressure given by the brackets on the heat sink prevent the metal from pooling.
I assume the latter would be the most logical.
Also, how many PS5s (and New Xbox's) could you have fixed by now? What are people doing to their consoles?
Question, do we even need to remove the adhesive? to clean it and apply? I don’t know where I can even get a new one of those
Great video 👍👍 Just subbed!!!!