Unboxing $25,000 Sigma Cine Lenses - Why We're Switching!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Unboxing $25,000 Sigma Cine Lenses - Why We're Switching!
After a few months of waiting, we got NEW LENSES! Stoked to start shooting with them! We want to take you every step of the way so when we learn, you learn! Let me know what you think in the comments below! :)
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Kind of missed the point explaining the difference between T-Stops and F-Stops. F-Stops is the theoretical amount of light that will go through the lens based on the diameter and focal length. T-Stops is the actual amount of light that makes it through. Simply put, f-stops is the the measurement of light hitting the front of the lens and t-stops is how much actually makes it through
Agree! but they did write it correctly on the screen, when he first gave his vague explanation, that the F-stop is the focal length divided by the diameter of the entrance pupil. Then he kept on vaguely explaining it.
But unfortunatly you are allmost right but really not. The f-stop doesnt have to do anything with light. You could have a lens at f1.2 using shit instead glas optics...no light transmission at all. Good glass and the possibility of a high f-stop results in a high Tstop.
Though a Tstop is not an exact way to calculate depth of field. The fstop is...which is kind of confusing and makes only minor difference.
So, I get the definition difference, but what do f an t stops look like in practice? Or is it just a different measurement? If so, are methods using the two the same or different?
Wow!! Those lenses look amazing! It’s going to look absolutely stunning once the team starts using them all the time!
I am pretty sure that T-Stop is the amount of light that is transmitted to the sensor while F-Stop is more of the light that is let in through the lens, but you have to remember that the lenses are circular while the sensor is a rectangle so you lose light there. So then a T-Stop only calculates the light that actually hits the rectangle, pretty sure you can find the T-Stop of lenses for different sensors on DxOMark.
f stops are not estimated, they measure the aperture width in proportion to the focal length.
Paulius Valinskas that is exactly right !!!. A lot of people think their estimated, but your equation is dead on correct.
Yes but f stops is the amount of light that passes through the aperture, T stops is the amount of light that actually exits the lens and hits the sensor.
@Vec Videos - You mean "pupil size" (entrance pupil/aperture diameter) compared to the focal length, right?
@ Vec Videos @Machina I know
F-stop is measured by the size of the opening at the front of the lens. A t-stop is a little trickier to measure since it is how much light, having passed through the aperture and through the elements in the lens, actually gets to your sensor. You do lose some light along the way.
T-stop is a the measure of light transmission, but F-stop is a the measure of depth-of-focus. Which is more important? As far as T-stop goes, the better solution is to have plenty of dynamic range and bit-depth to capture all information available and can make whatever decisions you wish during editing/post-production.
man you have good equipment)
nothing can beat the feeling of a nice lens in the hand...shoot great stuff with it!!
How often do you hire people?
Devin this is so cool. Congrats on getting to this point! Im sure you are stoked!
who remembers Devin filming Lindsey Stirling with his Glidecam HD2000 and his canon 5dm3 back in the day! How production value has increased!
David Niedbala I do, that’s how I first found him.
You have a star wars pinball machine in your office! Lucky!
7:00 one of the reasons why I love watching your videos is because of this little tips. Those are the things that nobody tells you and that make you look bad in the set. Please include more!
Why not Zeiss Master Prime?
Sigma is a great alternative if the main lenses is missed up, can't wait for the new scenes with these new lenses.
Congrats on your next big step! You're a long ways from your canon 5d mark ii. Progress!
Dual Pixel Autofocus- I was able to track a tennis ball, at 50 mm 1.2 across the frame with two players. With narrative even easier. That said nice lenses, yet I think my 35 L 1.4 ii is just as sharp ;) probably close with my 16, 24 L ii, 50 L 1.2, 100L 2.8, etc
I actually use a 16mm t2.2 lens for my Panasonic G7, and it’s absolutely beautiful! I will say though, a 80mm lens on a full frame camera is GODLY BEAUTIFUL!!! Can’t wait to see what comes out of these bad boys! 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Devin, i've learnt more from your vids than anywhere else, can't wait to see what magic you guys come up with, big ups man. Hurry up and shoot some stuff!!!!
I'm happy about this.
Could you do a comparison between the Sigma and Leica lenses? And please upload that in 8K :)
So much coolness here ! Can't wait to see all the changes to come Devin :)
Cinema lenses :o Last time i touch them, was in cinema school... Congratulation guys you deserve it ! Can't wait to see the comparaison with canon lenses.
Thank you so much for the kind words my friend :)
Sigma will have alot of focus breathing. So it is a prime but it zooms a bit with larger focus throws.
Stepping up!
Super stoked to see what's next!
I can’t wait to see what you guys film! Been here since the beginning👍🏼
Seeing these sorts of videos makes it clear why even seemingly simple movies (without famous actors or extensive special effects) might cost millions of dollars to make.
Look at Devin! Moving up in the food chain! Keep up the good work, dude.
devin i recommend painting the inside of the "locks" in a bright green, so you can more easily tell when the case is open, even when it is dark
That's an awesome idea, never heard of that before!
You inspire me and my partner. Awesome equipment, we love your work and most importantly where you came from the bottom to success
FYI they also used a Leica 16mm T1.4 Summilux-C for the Revenant (along with master primes)
BROSEPH. Stoked for you, man! Lookin forward to your work on these. 👊🏽 I’ve heard great things about these bad boys.
Hey Devin, two questions from me:
1. Any specific reason why you didn't choose Canon Cine prime lens?
2. Are you going to insure the lens?
Btw, I always love your contents. Keep up the good work.
Xeen cinema glass is also worth a look. I’m sure you considered those.
i bought a camera just for take some shots and to have fun with my friends making videos, i am from roumania so all i can boughted was an 700d and some cheap lights with an green screen and a stabilizer, i admire you, i think you filmmakers are the most ingenious ppl.. idk why, but you courage to take this more and more above your own limit is some what i want to do right now, i don't really know from where i can start not quickly but just to make viedeos and take some photos, to do something big.. like you do, gj and i will learn from you. P.S. sorry for my bad english.
Love the video I’m in film school now
I just wanna say that more glass (like on zoom lenses) doesn't mean quality loss AT ALL.
Thanks Devin for all that info and your efforts in making this video....
You are amazing!!!! Been a huge and avid fan of yours since the Fields of Africa, Breakdancing to Classical, and The Huge Bike jump into the pond video. It's been amazing to see you grow and expand out into amazing projects and producing amazing content. Can't wait to see what else you're going to film in the future with those Sigma lenses!!! Also, love seeing the behind the scenes stuff. Adds a whole different perspective to your shoots and it lets me and others know how you do things. Cause it inspires me to work harder and think of steps further ahead like in chess. So keep it up and can't wait to see more content from you!!!!
Thank you for such a kind comment :) You've been with us since the VERY VERY start :) It's been crazy how it's all played out, thank you for sticking with us this long :) And were trying to make this year much better as far as sharing the journey of the film making process. Thanks again my friend!
Can't wait to see more!!! I'm always going to smash that like button, always going to like your instagram post! (you might see visualsbythu pop up on your instagram ;p ) And always going to watch your stuff multiple of times until the next one! Much welcome and also, much thanks to YOU and your CREW for being awesome and creating amazing content!!!
Yessss I have been waiting for you guys to take this new direction for a while! I filmed a church commercial last year with the Sigma Art lenses (yes obviously not as great as the Cinema) but even they were legit let me tell ya! Would love to work with you guys some day, Devin :D
Actually the art lens have the exact same optics and look as the cine lenses! The only difference is the cine lenses are all manual and have the fancy housing.
I'm torn between getting the Zeiss CP.3 50MM T2.1 EF mount or the SIGMA FF High Speed 50mm T1.5. I like the fact that the SIGMA is cheaper and faster, but I like the look of the Zeiss a bit more.
This is goals ! I can’t wait to grow my video production company
don't just buy stuff because people use it in the film industry, understand why they use it. Especially with the lens. They use t-stops because they know if they use mix brands at the same Tstop then will get same amount of light, and each lens exposure stays the same. Also you don't have to use PL mount lens, they only use that because they know it's strong enough to hold heavier/ longer lens. if you want you can use EF, the mounts makes no difference.
So cool to see how Devin invests into what he enjoys doing (and not into the ego)
A lot of details!
Nice equipment!
Very nice, filmaker... 🎬📽👍
Man, you covered a lot of stuff in this video and it was not even a lesson vid! GREAT STUFF!
Summilux look great (i'd still rather use Cooke S4s, if we're talking spherical :P)!
The T-stops also help you matching shots, once they're precise, you can set two different lens to the same amount of light and have two shot with the same exact exposure, something that in photography isn't (99% of the times) an issue.
Can’t wait to see the test footage
devin - man i love your enthusiasm - and your energy! keep it up.
Like the new logo!
New logo? We've had the same logo for awhile, ha :)
Thank you so much for sharing Devin. You and your team are awesome!
*Thanks so much for explaining how you guys work your magic - it really helps us aspiring filmmakers :)*
Can wait to see what you’ll create with these ;-)
ReN TiL yeah film lenses are manual lenses.
Really been upping the production quality lately!
Nice lenses! I'm glad that you guys are doing great.
Thanks for sticking with us :)
Holy crap dude! Good for you guys!
Damn Devin, the gear lust is REAL! Looks hella good tho :)
You mentioned comparing the Sigmas to the Canons, I think it would be neat if you could also compare the VV Monstro to the Super 35 Helium.
They should do T stops on photography lenses too. It is really bloody useful.
Pieter can you use cinema lense on dslr ?
Kevin yes. You can.
I think you should have an audio room to mix the sounds of your films that will be a great addition in your office.
First AC here.. i'm ready for that call ;)
Super jealous of the leica set. We use some sony cinema lenses thst look great just super heavy. Congrats man! Looking forward to seeing the next steps for you guys!
Man! You start 2018 BIG ! congrat and all the success
Were only getting started :)
Hey Devin, check the focus mark, on some lens it way off.
"what I learned from film school is that you need to handle expensive lenses with two hands"
Also him: these lenses *single handedly* ☝️👆👌🤙👇👉👈👌👌👌
Devin it sounds like you by your equipment based off what others are using, not necessarily what fits your style... interesting.
Is the next video you're going to shoot, going to be on the new cine lenses? Because I'm excited to see this!
That's the plan :) We do have a lot of new vids coming out still that we shot in 2017 that we didn't have these lenses yet though.
devingraham nice! I've been planning on buying a cine lens for a while, is it much nicer with a follow focus? Or fine without one?
the 14mm kind of vignettes, but it vignettes smoothly. Better stop down to 7K on VV.
Great informative video thanks
This is great content for other directors/cinematographers following you. Interesting!
Congrats! Especially on the Leicas! And the soon to arrive VV :)
So why did you go with the Leicas over Cooke's? As pristine and sharp as they are... that Cooke look is sure hard to beat
Chris Kennedy yeah... I thought Cooke lenses are the best...
I went back and forth with the Cooke S4's and the Leica Summilux, it was a super hard decision actually. I used the S4 on our Extinct music video and loved them, however I feel for the most consist look from project to project, it made the most sense to go with the Leica's. Shoots like Beauty and the Beast, Stranger Things, and Justice League used them for how well they handled different colors, how they "felt", weren't to sharp, but sharp enough. But the S4's I love the 3D look to them. Leica's I feel are the main standard right now as well so there would be a higher chance to rent them out :)
Leica and cooke are two very very good brand for lenses, and at this point point, i think it's more the look that you look over the quality
devingraham to each his own. I’ve always preferred character out of my glass more then what “everyone else is shooting with” which seems to be one of the main reasons why you chose it. One of the reasons why I own a RED Weapon over an Alexa-I don’t want to be like the masses (and IPP2 rocks). Just like I’d take my cinevised/rehoused Leica Rs or Super Speeds over newer glass like the Summilux or Master Primes.
Since your going VV, the Leica Thalia’s sure would be an awesome choice!
Sounds legit. Are you going to be working on feature films in 2018?
Very cool Devin. Did you consider the Canon Cinema primes? They are full frame also. EF or PL I believe, curious why you didnt get those after using Canon lenses for so long?
Can you make a video on lense rings and that diameter and that numbers measurements written on lence we want to know about them
Really like these kind of videos!
Loved all the info on this! -B
I have no experience with cinema film, and learned allot here very interesting. But I do love primes and 2/3rd of my lenses are primes.
thats a huge jump!!!
Why did you guys not get the Leica Thalia lenses, which are meant for the Vista Vision sensor, it would made your VV RED 'A Cam' on important shoots?
Did you look into the sets of Sony CineAlta PL lenses, Zeiss Compact Primes, and the Tokina PL lenses, why did you go for Sigma instead? (I'm guessing Vista Vision coverage was a big factor)
you should update your office tour. great video by the way
Do you have any things actors should know about cameras that could help them with their acting?
Hey Devin I was wondering how you fly on airlines with drones and cameras that are too big for the over head bin but also contain LiPo batteries?
Sam York I would also like to know this
Josiah Gamez Yeah but you can only take like 200W battery’s as carry on
Well I know multiple of them fly. So it is per person. At times they fly separate so they can each carry the max they have. That is what I would do to work and film.
Josiah Gamez I just don’t want them to break my drone is there any other way
Also drain them to below 50% (some people say 20%). They are much less dangerous that way.
Great video
crazy lenses!
Keep up the work!
Great video and information, thanks!
Did you rent the Sigma lenses first before you bought to see if you like them.
Devin, great videos about your new gear. Congratulations getting into the next chapter of filmmaking with your amazing company.
One question I’m super curious about. Why did you go for summilux-c instead of summicron-c?? Is it only the higher Tstop??
I do a lot of Flex4k shoots as an operator and I always choose summicrons above summiluxes. They feel quicker to work with because of their smaller sizes and lower cost. Way nicer on gimbals as well. And somehow I have been getting better detail out of the test charts. Also they coverage is higher as well. I truely love them. And you have the option for this stunning 15mm which is super rectilineaire. But please let me know if you have any more thoughts about that!
Also those Thalia lenses seem like an intresting option once you fully Vistavision.
Enjoy your new jobs!! JK from The Netherlands
i thought the sigma lenses were only full frame....isnt the 8k VV/Monstro larger than full frame slightly? Did you look into the Tokina VV lenses? almost no focus breathing...sigmas still have a bit of focus breathing....
Nice glass, didn’t know I would be going to school.
Badass maaaan!
Thanks for this Devin. I truly appreciate the knowledge! My question is:
Is it correct to say that an f-stop is a relative or fractional value depending on the size of the aperture compared to the size of the sensor, whereas T-stops are an absolute value of the measure of light transmission? This would explain why a camera phone can claim an f-stop of 1.9 relative to it's tiny sensor
am impressed, good work done bro.
Hey Devin! Amazing set that you got their! They look beautiful! Can you tell which lense will be used for which shoot or do you try out which lense is the best for the shoot on the spot?
I went vintage glass and moded that
Do you still use the 50-100? I'm curious about the Zoom set but that lens breathing 😅
Good information dude! thanks for sharing!
Hey Devin, thoughts on anamorphic? Do you own any lenses? Do you like shooting anamorphic? Pros and Cons? Thanks
I thought vista vision was larger than full frame?
Awesome, Congrats!