Escape From Tarkov dev apology to fan outrage goes poorly, devs mock Unheard Edition

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  • @YongYea
    @YongYea  Місяць тому +326

    Ah, the classic "We're sorry you feel this way" that admits no culpability or guilt.
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  • @Malohta
    @Malohta Місяць тому +2456

    I remember when offline multiplayer was free.

    • @leopereira4718
      @leopereira4718 Місяць тому +248

      Now the edition name makes sense. Offline multiplayer behind a paywall is Unheard of.

    • @gabemaurer4969
      @gabemaurer4969 Місяць тому +75

      Pepperidge Farm remembers...

    • @TheBlargMarg
      @TheBlargMarg Місяць тому +180

      I also remember when offline means OFF-LINE

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Місяць тому +94

      I remember when playing ONLINE via a console was free. It's funny how things turn out when people start capitulating to opportunists over time.

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw Місяць тому +13

      and it was in the game at launch

  • @massiveboss7717
    @massiveboss7717 Місяць тому +1565

    "We're sorry you feel this way". That's the most gaslighting if I ever heard one.

    • @THEJMAROCK91
      @THEJMAROCK91 Місяць тому +39

      Not even your narcissist SO would dare to say such a thing

    • @r3dr4te963
      @r3dr4te963 Місяць тому +52

      Not even gaslight, this is obvious retort, but more restrained and "polite"

    • @crusader-j4126
      @crusader-j4126 Місяць тому +27

      Yea, That hit me like a truck that they didn't give a single damn about what they did.

    • @playwars3037
      @playwars3037 Місяць тому +34

      It's literally the textbook definition given by wikipedia of a fake apology.

    • @AspectofFrost
      @AspectofFrost Місяць тому +11

      reminds me of the battlefield V trailer reveal when a lady with a hook claw hand was 75% of a ww2 shooter trailer. im pretty sure EA/dice also said "we're sorry you feel that way"

  • @3rdtimesacharm84
    @3rdtimesacharm84 Місяць тому +324

    BSG: "Its not DLC, its a new game mode"
    EA: "Its not a Lootbox, its a surprise mechanic"

    • @nidungr3496
      @nidungr3496 Місяць тому +12

      Bethesda: "It's not pay2win DLC in single player, it's a paid mod... no wait, it's not a paid mod, it's a COMMUNITY CREATION! (*note: some community creations were made by internal developers)"

    • @sordbrute2753
      @sordbrute2753 Місяць тому +8

      Ubisoft: "it's not a game you own, its a license to access the game"

    • @quigz125
      @quigz125 Місяць тому +9

      Activision: “It’s not the same game, it’s Call Of Duty 19.”

  • @Morokiane
    @Morokiane Місяць тому +252

    Needing servers for “offline” means it isn’t offline.

    • @spirit_miku
      @spirit_miku Місяць тому +4

      The servers would be for the squad aspect of the PvE, but it's still dogshit

    • @That1Historian
      @That1Historian Місяць тому +1

      It's how EFT loads loot they randomly generate it using servers

    • @Morokiane
      @Morokiane Місяць тому +9

      I get that...but what I'm saying is it isn't "offline" offline means you don't need to connect to anything to play the game.

    • @That1Historian
      @That1Historian Місяць тому

      @@Morokiane Well yeah but it's still an offline mode

    • @joshuachristensen9731
      @joshuachristensen9731 Місяць тому +18

      @@That1Historian if you can play it without connecting to the internet, it's offline. needing an internet connection to connect to their servers in order to play makes it online. it is not offline, it is just a private lobby.

  • @gybzen
    @gybzen Місяць тому +901

    Imagine the arrogance you would need to have to charge $250 for a video game

    • @misterymisterio8778
      @misterymisterio8778 Місяць тому +54

      It's Nikita. He is more than arrogant enough. He did awful things like that before. This situation is the most extreme and just gained attention outside of Tarkov because of the price tag.

    • @MaXiMoS54
      @MaXiMoS54 Місяць тому +76

      Not even a game, DLC lmao

    • @KingFlameHawk
      @KingFlameHawk Місяць тому +39

      Imagine spending $250 for a game.

    • @Mukatutu
      @Mukatutu Місяць тому +18

      Correction, sir. (Put's on fabulous marketing team suit) You are mistaken in thinking that our beloved players would be paying $250 for just a 'video game'. That isn't what's being sold. What's being sold is a symbol of unity between our most loyal players, and a reward for those players, who have stuck by us in the darkest of nights. The reward will manifest as an early access to a brand new, well-polished, and highly anticipated game mode and other various fantastic marvelously magnificent 'Trade for Advantage' features!
      It is not with 'arrogance' that we introduce our new project to our beloved players....It is with PRIDE!. Huh? What about EOD? WHO CARES!!! Why look at the past when the future is so bright? Abandoning a glorious future for some silly promise from the past? That's.....UNHEARD of!!!
      Join us, make your 250$ contributions, prove your loyalty and we promise you....ALL of you...Your loyalty will be rewarded. TRUST. US.

    • @dragonfire5568
      @dragonfire5568 Місяць тому +39

      Note: this game is still in early access. And it’s $250.

  • @jonathangil2050
    @jonathangil2050 Місяць тому +1236

    I don’t even play this game but i’m so invested in the fumble this dev has on their hands

    • @michealbounds550
      @michealbounds550 Місяць тому +91

      This is peak entertainment

    • @arxeha
      @arxeha Місяць тому +79

      lol praying on their downfall🙏

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Місяць тому +31

      Like with Stellar Blade: false advertising doesn't go over well with gamers. This developer is gonna go down hard: get the snacks and drinks ready folks cause this shows going to be a hoot.

    • @mychealmcknight7963
      @mychealmcknight7963 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@The_Phoenix_SagaI have my mountain dew and popcorn ready

    • @Noblesix84
      @Noblesix84 Місяць тому +1

      Same, used to play it but haven't in a while, I'm interested to see how much worse BSG gets

  • @LockeRobsta
    @LockeRobsta Місяць тому +46

    "Massive step in the right direction," my ass. More like minor step back after a MASSIVE step over the line.

  • @amharbinger
    @amharbinger Місяць тому +53

    EA, Activision Blizzard, and Ubisoft all never crossed this line. That's saying something.

    • @SPECTRA_87
      @SPECTRA_87 Місяць тому +23

      Yet

    • @viva6235
      @viva6235 Місяць тому +28

      I don't know, Ubisoft said that people should get comfortable with not owning their games. Which is just just as bad, maybe even worse, actually.

    • @XeElectrik
      @XeElectrik Місяць тому +9

      ​@@viva6235 if I don't own their game then technically I've never stolen any of their games either

    • @quigz125
      @quigz125 Місяць тому

      You can bet damn well EA is taking pointers from this. EA needs to be shut down for fraud. They’re not a gaming company anymore, they’re a gambling company preying on gamers.

    • @anabolicino
      @anabolicino Місяць тому

      They most definitely did, every dev you mentioned is literal dogshit and has been dogshit predatory ripoff shams for over a decade. The fact dipshits even still acknowledge Assassin’s Creed’s existence baffles me

  • @santossouto
    @santossouto Місяць тому +802

    ppl forget that even the 50 dollar version should get the Offline version, for fks sake, ITS A BASIC THING EVERY GAME SHOULD HAVE

    • @azurviper513
      @azurviper513 Місяць тому +48

      You mean "Legacy features"

    • @mtdfs5147
      @mtdfs5147 Місяць тому +83

      B-b-but it needs to be connected to our servers 🥺 so we can steal your data 🥺🥺🥺 And add DRM 🥺🥺🥺

    • @airdrifter7651
      @airdrifter7651 Місяць тому +6

      Yeah that's my exact thought

    • @Krejii05
      @Krejii05 Місяць тому

      *cough* download SPT MOD *cough*

    • @myidea5741
      @myidea5741 Місяць тому +10

      Yep..actually crazy that there was a day you played offline multiplayer because you couldnt afford to play online now they are trying to charge for it lol

  • @mangopie7602
    @mangopie7602 Місяць тому +476

    If I were the greedy dev I'd give the $250 price tag a 50% off discount as an "apology " because I'd still get rich due to the staggering amount of whales and morons in the internet

    • @JeezboozXD
      @JeezboozXD Місяць тому +57

      Dude stop reading their play book. That's exactly what they are going to do.

    • @monkaWGiga
      @monkaWGiga Місяць тому

      Delightfully devilish Mangopie

    • @gamesta8804
      @gamesta8804 Місяць тому +18

      They did, its 50% off for eod owners.

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 Місяць тому

      The consumers of the gaming industry today are pure suckers and morons

    • @Mosestylez
      @Mosestylez Місяць тому +31

      $125 is still waaay too much for a freaking DLC😂🤦‍♂️

  • @Hammerite
    @Hammerite Місяць тому +18

    Apology translation:
    We say sorry because we have to, not because we actually are.
    We have not learned anything.
    We'll try again later.
    Thx tho

  • @IM-xs3uv
    @IM-xs3uv Місяць тому +20

    They're guilty of false advertising for Edge of Darkness. They're open to getting sued.

  • @imtherealslimshady3343
    @imtherealslimshady3343 Місяць тому +515

    You know this shit is shameless when even the helldivers 2 devs start roasting them.

    • @GamerKahn
      @GamerKahn Місяць тому +6

      They did ? 😮

    • @Talon97
      @Talon97 Місяць тому +3

      @@GamerKahn No, they didn't. He's making shit up...

    • @theshadowofawizard
      @theshadowofawizard Місяць тому +124

      @@GamerKahnit’s in the video…

    • @user-me9bu7ln8q
      @user-me9bu7ln8q Місяць тому

      ​@Talon97 it's literally on x....are you running low on brain cells?

    • @mdiggler
      @mdiggler Місяць тому +5

      Hard for me to be on their side considering they still haven't fixed basic friend request and matchmaking for crossplay in their own game months after release.

  • @georgem2768
    @georgem2768 Місяць тому +381

    *”We’re sorry we bullshitted to the community. We wanted some extra money.”*

    • @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow
      @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow Місяць тому +2

      “It’s ok because I have a reason” 😂

    • @benkai9921
      @benkai9921 Місяць тому +9

      "Anyway here's some more bullshit, we still want that bag"

    • @KillZoneHart1
      @KillZoneHart1 Місяць тому +1

      If they just came out and said that but for the purpose of expanding the studio to pay new hires I'd understand. But they're not, they want bigger bag.

    • @iancoker9251
      @iancoker9251 Місяць тому +1

      I wish they were that honest and straightforward lol

    • @DEVDerr
      @DEVDerr Місяць тому +1

      They're not even sorry about the fact they bullshitted. They're sorry about the community response they received after bullshitting

  • @Mac_Omegaly
    @Mac_Omegaly Місяць тому +64

    "We don't have enough resources on our online servers for everyone to play without using our online servers."
    This part really got me wondering how this "offline mode" was this poorly falsely advertised.

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna Місяць тому +2

      Good catch!

    • @zeening
      @zeening Місяць тому

      "we can't let you access *******OFFFFFFFFFFFLINE*********** mode because of our *************ONLINE SERVER CAPABILITIES************" THAT'S NOT FKING OFFLINE MODE THEN IF YOU'RE CONNECTING TO FUCKING SERVERS!!!! WHAT KIND OF GASLIGHTING FUCKERY IS THIS!?!?!?!??

  • @thechosenone4985
    @thechosenone4985 Місяць тому +44

    Escape from Tarkov: You can play offline with your friends
    Also Escape from Tarkov: permanent internet connections needed to play offline with your friends

    • @Iunit13I
      @Iunit13I Місяць тому +5

      Well, they just tried to change definition of DLC so why not the difinition of "offline" 😁

  • @playwars3037
    @playwars3037 Місяць тому +168

    "We're sorry you feel this way."
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is the literal, textbook definition of a false apology. Typing "I'm sorry you feel that way" redirects to the 'non apology apologies' page of wikipedia.

  • @V3_ethereal
    @V3_ethereal Місяць тому +168

    "Play offline with friends" locked behind 250$ paywall is the real scam here. If you got friends that will pay 250$ to play offline with you. You better be kissing the homies good night, if they willing to make that poor of a financial decision to play games with you.

    • @HauntakuTV
      @HauntakuTV Місяць тому +3

      tbh I think it would've been better if they gave you literally everything online for $10 a month instead of asking for hundreds of dollars upfront. The offline stuff should've all been in the base game from launch for $30 at most. People nowadays would be fine paying a handful of bucks to play online every month as long as it was subtantial.

    • @agata6337
      @agata6337 Місяць тому +5

      tbf, i dont even expect my girlfriend to pay for online to play together, imagine on top of that paying 250USD E A C H for fucking escape for tarkov of all things.
      like, for 500usd, thats like 6 triple As and one indie we could be playing together instead.
      and all of that without considering the microtransactions bs...

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD Місяць тому

      ​@@HauntakuTV After 7 years that's 840 dollars. Realistically people would cancel the subscription whenever they're busy but if a studio couldn't finish the game off $150 editions the higher ups are mismanaging the project and not deserving to ask 800 freaking dollars.

    • @zeening
      @zeening Місяць тому

      "we can't let you access *******OFFFFFFFFFFFLINE*********** mode because of our *************ONLINE SERVER CAPABILITIES************" THAT'S NOT FKING OFFLINE MODE THEN IF YOU'RE CONNECTING TO FUCKING SERVERS!!!! WHAT KIND OF GASLIGHTING FUCKERY IS THIS!?!?!?!??

    • @sylvester2395
      @sylvester2395 Місяць тому

      @@ChucksSEADnDEAD I think the point is that you can cancel anytime with a subscription without committing to a $250 game. If you want to pay 7 years straight, that's your prerogative. Heck, I know I only subscribe to netflix for one month only whenever something interesting comes out.

  • @wrongtime9097
    @wrongtime9097 Місяць тому +12

    I'll say it again: this game & its dev has been laced with red flags from the start.
    Even if you ignore the critic silencing, they still had the nerve to ask for $150 for an unfinished multiplayer game.
    It was obvious what kind of people they are.

  • @chazruss7177
    @chazruss7177 Місяць тому +11

    When does this crap start to become criminal? We need courts/judges to step in and fix this crap. Gaming was one of my favorite things to do since I was a kid (I'm in my 30s now) and this crap is just driving me further and further away.

  • @CaIasanctius
    @CaIasanctius Місяць тому +207

    dropping an unironic "im sorry you feel that way". says a lot about how these devs feel about their paypigs. their paypigs are simply an obstacle between them and BSGs money.

    • @rebel4466
      @rebel4466 Місяць тому +12

      Even the cheaters are hunting the paypigs. It's actually somewhat entertaining

    • @HellDuke-
      @HellDuke- Місяць тому

      Not really. Would "Sorry we caused so much frustration" be any better? That's more accurate way to think of what he wrote

    • @jerodfarmer165
      @jerodfarmer165 Місяць тому +5

      @@HellDuke-he should say sorry we fucked up it won’t happen again. Nothing less then that

    • @tekkisfrosty
      @tekkisfrosty Місяць тому

      It's all about the whales for these types of games man, I watched a UA-cam recently about how games like these cater to such whales and how that a super small percentage like 1-2 percent covers an insanely large percentage of income. Some games will go to crazy lengths to keep them happy, it's like being a VIP top spender at a Las Vegas casino...

    • @DisDatK9
      @DisDatK9 Місяць тому +1

      Its the same exact response they had to Single Player Tarkov. They wanted SO bad to shut it down and monetize it for themselves but realized they literally had 0 legal ground to do so as it requires purchasing the game to play SPT. Lead dev literally said "If we could shut it down, we would." They don't respect their community, and have always been shitty to the players, but its always been in a cheeky tone that everyone laughed at. Now its obvious they just genuinely dont give a shit about anyone except those who wanna pay big bucks to play.

  • @aconceitedbeast731
    @aconceitedbeast731 Місяць тому +265

    "You do not need to buy anything at any stage."
    Well...that aged well

    • @Mac_Omegaly
      @Mac_Omegaly Місяць тому +7

      Even that is a setup for a bait and switch when they can just put a two next to the product next time they want money.

    • @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow
      @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow Місяць тому +1

      No, you aged well 😳

    • @maofria1452
      @maofria1452 Місяць тому

      like milk

  • @StevieWill88
    @StevieWill88 Місяць тому +13

    To quote Escape from Tarkov: “I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.”

  • @knightchef
    @knightchef Місяць тому +17

    That clown has some balls to retroactively change what you were getting…like people won’t have screen shots.

    • @anaturn12
      @anaturn12 Місяць тому +4

      Dude he not only had balls to change it. He has also balls to lie about it when it was obviously he is telling lies

    • @carlosperalta1714
      @carlosperalta1714 Місяць тому

      The Wayback Machine never forgets!

  • @meskonyolsen6657
    @meskonyolsen6657 Місяць тому +188

    "Let's use ChatGPT real quick."
    "Write me an Paragraph long apology about Escape from Tarkov The Unheard Outrage"

    • @R1ckyZer0
      @R1ckyZer0 Місяць тому +14

      Nah.. ChatGPT won't be this bad.

    • @carlosperalta1714
      @carlosperalta1714 Місяць тому

      Chatgpt wouldn't use a nonapology 😂

    • @joshuaanderson1712
      @joshuaanderson1712 Місяць тому +1

      @@carlosperalta1714 Yes, it would be the more generic 'mistakes have been inadvertently made and we are deeply sorry this has happened' kind of response about 'endeavoring to do better in the future' and so on instead of a 'I'm sorry you feel seeing me taking money from your wallet means I'm doing something wrong' that the CEO probably wrote himself.
      At least we know he did actually write it himself rather than getting someone else to do it for him, for what that's worth.

  • @soulechelon2643
    @soulechelon2643 Місяць тому +252

    This smells alot like "let's start with something as egregious as possible and then backpedal until enough people are appeased and everyone forgets about it".

    • @GiegueX
      @GiegueX Місяць тому +30

      And you know it'll work.

    • @viziroth
      @viziroth Місяць тому +10

      ​@@GiegueX I dunno, EFT players are a unique breed

    • @Xsudan
      @Xsudan Місяць тому +3

      That's anchoring, baby!

    • @SunzNbunz
      @SunzNbunz Місяць тому +9

      ​@@vizirothyeah bruh EFT players are built completely different. I never got super into the game (I suck) but I've always kept up with it And I definitely recall BattleState getting HELLA shit in the early days cause they were always fucking up. But they hadn't built that cult following and ravenous fan base yet. So they started cleaning up. To me this is just a showing that they're still exactly who they were 6 years ago. Fuck up, back peddle, monetize.... But the industry has changed drastically in literally just the past 2 years. BSG might've just done something irreparable.

    • @viziroth
      @viziroth Місяць тому +7

      @@SunzNbunz yeah, this is coming off the tail end of one of the most popular wipe updates in a long time, and it's one of their worse fuck ups. they built themselves up high before toppling down. even some of the streamers that make their money off this game are boycotting it. even the dreaded cheaters are "siding" with the community and targeting people that have bought the unhinged edition extra hard. the moderators of the subreddit are letting people ignore the rules if they're bashing the new edition. the discord moderators are making fun of it. the like community reps trying to put nikita in the best light still make him out to be a monster. this is a move nobody liked.

  • @MisterVercetti
    @MisterVercetti Місяць тому +20

    "We're sorry we tested the waters and got bitten for going in too deep."
    I've never wanted the mainstream gaming industry to crash so hard in my life as I do now. This is an industry that's gotten wildly out of control and desperately needs to be reined in.

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Місяць тому

      Do your part, learn to code. Godot is free and there are tons of tutorials on youtube.

  • @aeden8008
    @aeden8008 Місяць тому +4

    They aren't giving the PvE mode to everyone, only to Edge of Darkness owners as an attempt at an apology while adding more perks to a now discontinued edition.
    This is a cataclysmic level self own from Battlestate.
    Also small reminder of Battlestate's previous behavior. Some Canadian players found unapproved charges coming out of their bank accounts, and Battlestate vehemently denied everything.

  • @tipolacko
    @tipolacko Місяць тому +190

    I remember when:
    - Single player didn’t require an internet connection
    - local multiplayer was free
    - games came with free merch like stickers
    - map packs and cosmetics were actually free
    - micro transactions didn’t exist
    - battle passes didn’t exist
    - loot boxes didn’t exist
    - pay 2 win didn’t exist
    - games were fun and not a full time grind job or progression were slowed down to monetise skips etc.

    • @TheBIGgame681
      @TheBIGgame681 Місяць тому +9

      Good old time! 😢

    • @ArcticVXR1
      @ArcticVXR1 Місяць тому +3

      Everything going digital brought greed

    • @SPTX.
      @SPTX. Місяць тому +10

      I'm slightly older than you, I remember when ANY game didn't need an internet connection, including multiplayer games.

    • @Sheevlord
      @Sheevlord Місяць тому +2

      Aren't arcade games P2W? Even if you have the skills of a game journo by feeding enough coins into the machine you can still win. P2W is as old as videogames.

    • @tipolacko
      @tipolacko Місяць тому +5

      @@Sheevlord I think you misunderstand what pay 2 win means. Pay to win means you get an advantage over everyone else.

  • @The_Phoenix_Saga
    @The_Phoenix_Saga Місяць тому +175

    As ive always said: companies will ALWAYS do what they think they can get away with... first paid DLC then console paid online subscriptions, then microtransactions and now this kind of bull.
    And here i was so frequently mocked for not "Getting with the times..."

    • @thientuongnguyen2564
      @thientuongnguyen2564 Місяць тому +20

      Then we'll have "pay-per-play" kind of subscription. But no, they know idiots will eat it up as usual.

    • @dizzypro4974
      @dizzypro4974 Місяць тому +13

      @@thientuongnguyen2564 "The Culling: Origins" already did pay-per-play and died soon after, wouldn't be surprised if it was just "ahead of its time" though

    • @thientuongnguyen2564
      @thientuongnguyen2564 Місяць тому +6

      @@dizzypro4974 Then it got culled as well. Truly the origin.

    • @triparadox.c
      @triparadox.c Місяць тому +5

      @@thientuongnguyen2564 Pay per play. They'll justify it by saying, "we're an Arcade monetization model :)"

    • @nuyorker562
      @nuyorker562 Місяць тому +1

      I'm the same. I don't get involved in any of this kind of shit. I don't pre-order, I don't early access, I don't any anything that is obviously just a means to fuck you and take your money. And I would not hang around and support the greedy assholes who just screwed me (or tried to) in hopes that it'll get better..... There are always those that do tho. Saps

  • @PartOfTheGame
    @PartOfTheGame Місяць тому +12

    If you download it after the base-game download it's DLC: Downloadable Content. That's LITERALLY what it is by definition.

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Місяць тому +1

      As Cr1tikal put it: "This is like trying to argue that a poop is not a shit."

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 Місяць тому

      unless its already been downloaded and needs to be unlocked?

  • @tbidzzzz
    @tbidzzzz Місяць тому +53

    Billion dollar company "doesn't have the server infrastructure" what a cop out.

    • @quigz125
      @quigz125 Місяць тому

      Yeah I don’t get that. THEN GET MORE FUCKING SERVERS!! These idiots working on this game don’t realize they need to invest in their own creation before it can start generating money. That’s the basics of all business. You need capital to start and without capital (enough servers) all you have is an idea.
      I’m not an expert on how they get more servers. Idk if it’s physical servers they just plug in or buying space on the interwebs. But it doesn’t make any sense why they don’t have the ability to get more servers… pathetic excuse indeed.

    • @toxikyle5419
      @toxikyle5419 Місяць тому +3

      Okay yeah it's a cop-out but in what world is Battlestate a "billion dollar company"? Their 2022 financial report indicates that Battlestate has only ever made $200 million in total revenue. And that's REVENUE, not PROFIT, so it doesn't account for the overhead costs of development, server maintenance, advertising, staffing, office space, etc.
      Battlestate is NOT a billion dollar company. I bet you could multiply Battlestate's total profits tenfold and they STILL wouldn't be a billion dollar company.

    • @doc-vg9lq
      @doc-vg9lq Місяць тому +3

      @@toxikyle5419 yeah the Tarkov fans exaggerate and lie just like the Dev's. they're both untrustworthy.

  • @YaraUwU
    @YaraUwU Місяць тому +67

    Predatory practices should be mocked like this. You'll notice though no AAA publishers are chiming in.

    • @dahn57
      @dahn57 Місяць тому +13

      They are busy taking notes on how to get away with it

  • @Romanticoutlaw
    @Romanticoutlaw Місяць тому +80

    the offline multiplayer isn't even offline! They still have the power to pull the plug on your experience any time they want

    • @Mac_Omegaly
      @Mac_Omegaly Місяць тому +12

      Exactly it's false advertising.

    • @myy297
      @myy297 Місяць тому +3

      SPT Tarkov is the way.

    • @zeening
      @zeening Місяць тому +4

      FINALLY someone actually calling that out... "we can't let you access *******OFFFFFFFFFFFLINE*********** mode because of our *************ONLINE SERVER CAPABILITIES************" THAT'S NOT FKING OFFLINE MODE THEN IF YOU'RE CONNECTING TO FUCKING SERVERS!!!! WHAT KIND OF GASLIGHTING FUCKERY IS THIS!?!?!?!??

    • @mannather
      @mannather Місяць тому +1

      @@zeening Remember the Simcity remake from a couple of years back? EA: "We can't have an offline mode because some of the game's processes have to be done on our server". An incredibly awkward way to develop a game if it was true...until it was proven to be a pack of lies as a hacker was able to not only enable an offline mode for himself but also build beyond the limits retail versions put onto you.
      EA then patched in an offline mode later which made the entire statement false from every angle, not just one. Escape from Tarkov's Offline mode is feeling like this same thing but with a different skin on it ;^^

  • @edreenpasang7537
    @edreenpasang7537 Місяць тому +7

    At this point I am tired of hearing apologies after apologies from dev . They know what they are doing , they just don't care .

  • @zeldacrafter4578
    @zeldacrafter4578 Місяць тому +7

    What annoys me the most is the offline mode isn't even offline
    It only technically is because it's offline from the main servers, you're connecting to servers outside of the main servers instead, I don't understand why someone can't just host the game
    So many other games do multi-player by having someone host the game
    Edit: I was wrong, the thing annoys me the most is you pay 250$ and get offline mode that isn't even offline mode

  • @CeHee123
    @CeHee123 Місяць тому +59

    When success gets to your head, you forget that you have to please the people who made you successful.

  • @Eguzky
    @Eguzky Місяць тому +54

    Escape From Tarkov can change their name to Escape From Relevancy.

    • @dependent-ability8631
      @dependent-ability8631 Місяць тому +6

      it's called escape from tarkov because players should escape to a better game ASAP

  • @CaptScrotes
    @CaptScrotes Місяць тому +6

    "I'm sorry you feel that way" is about as worthless as an apology gets.

  • @V3_ethereal
    @V3_ethereal Місяць тому +8

    If I were someone in Arena Breakout team, I'd be suggesting buying the knife skin from what ever asset store EFT got it from. Adding it to Arena Breakout as "Super-unique" Knife skin. Then make it just a login bonus to rag on EFT even more.
    If you're in same genre, kicking EFT while they're down and trying to milk them for responses is good marketing/publicity for your own game. Not only gets your product's name out their as an alternative, but is also basically saying your studio stands against the business practice your competitor is using that angered their customers.

  • @GIChiyo
    @GIChiyo Місяць тому +29

    "I'm sorry you feel that way" is NOT an apology

  • @MazeMaker4Life
    @MazeMaker4Life Місяць тому +214

    A 7 year beta? What a fucking joke

    • @sonoda944
      @sonoda944 Місяць тому +25

      Have you heard of the game called 7 days to die?
      apparently that game has been in alpha for 12 years

    • @viva6235
      @viva6235 Місяць тому +42

      Wait til you hear about Star Citizen.

    • @Jamesgates355
      @Jamesgates355 Місяць тому +7

      @@sonoda944 in fairness, they have spent a few years in limbo with their publisher and trying to push content out, but soon we are getting 7 Days 1.0

    • @olivierr.5752
      @olivierr.5752 Місяць тому

      @@Jamesgates355 Link?

    • @TotalXPvideos
      @TotalXPvideos Місяць тому +6

      ​@@Jamesgates355 still insane that they are "ready for 1.0" while I've checked that game not too long ago and, while the game has changed a lot, is still very janky and bare bones.

  • @Steely_Fran
    @Steely_Fran Місяць тому +8

    The Escape from Tarkov devs "apologized" the same way Jirard The Completionist did when he got called out for keeping charity donations. He was sorry if you felt misled by his statements, not for actually making them. I like to call that non-apology technique "pulling the ol' Jirard".

  • @JDelwynn
    @JDelwynn Місяць тому +8

    The first time I've ever heard of Tarkov was when they abused the DMCA system to take down negative videos about them. No surprise they're still as scummy as ever.

  • @auzell1449
    @auzell1449 Місяць тому +27

    If I were to write a guide on how to publicly apologise, not saying the words "I'm sorry you feel that way" would be Chapter 1

  • @tealishpotato
    @tealishpotato Місяць тому +50

    Should have called it the "Unheard Of Edition" for how outrageous this stunt was.

    • @carlosperalta1714
      @carlosperalta1714 Місяць тому +1

      The Outrageous Audacity edition

    • @skachor
      @skachor Місяць тому +1

      You may be happy to know this is becoming the "edition heard round the world."

  • @maxforce
    @maxforce Місяць тому +7

    They went full Greedy. You never go Full Greedy.

  • @AxeGaijin
    @AxeGaijin Місяць тому +6

    Asking $250 for a version of your game is quite mad. Asking that for a game that is still in BETA is *really* a questionable thing. Locking an offline PVE mode behind that version is downright scummy. Breaking your promise to people who al ready paid for a previous $150 version of the game is borderline evil.
    The nonpology and the way the dev react to criticism shows what they truly are: Scum. This type of behaviour is truly Unheard of.

  • @Xayjohns
    @Xayjohns Місяць тому +28

    I've never played this, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous that anybody would ask even half this price for any game. But all I hope is that everybody will keep the same energy at any and all times other companies do something like this and not compromise just because the hypothetical situation would apply to a game they want to play in the future.

  • @Josh-kx4zo
    @Josh-kx4zo Місяць тому +5

    I feel like even after this update there’s still probable cause for a class action lawsuit here. Lots of ammo for a lawyer to do something with this

  • @innocentbystander3317
    @innocentbystander3317 Місяць тому +4

    "We couldn't possibly have plagiarized your product, we left out all the lies, the pay2win, the contempt for customers... Overall, it's quite a different experience."
    -ABI Dev's Legal Team

  • @Dunnplayin
    @Dunnplayin Місяць тому +40

    I hate greed so much

  • @ArkonBlade
    @ArkonBlade Місяць тому +16

    I've heard of this game but never really looked into it.
    with these kind of business practices I never will

  • @shadiafifi54
    @shadiafifi54 Місяць тому +3

    At this point, I don't think they're worthy of forgiveness. This is just blatant gaslighting, egotism, and idiocy at work.

  • @MrJoshy
    @MrJoshy Місяць тому +1

    “I’m sorry you feel this way” feels the same with the completist’s ‘apology’ when he said the same thing when he doesn’t send the donations to where it supposed to go.

  • @Insanabiliter_In_Linea
    @Insanabiliter_In_Linea Місяць тому +13

    "We don't have the server capacity for the offline mode as of now", a sentence that has been said exactly once, against all odds.
    Am I missing something? How is it an offline mode if it requires a connection to their servers?

    • @samc9133
      @samc9133 Місяць тому +1

      Nope you're right. I strongly doubt they mean they need capacity just for the sake of tracking progression etc. That is extremely lightweight in terms of capacity.
      It seems obvious to me that they don't believe in the success of the core product. If they did, they would upgrade their capacity to support any feature of the game which may draw in prospective buyers - instead, they are essentially trying to make the buyers indirectly pay for the capacity. Whackadoodle stuff.

    • @fools_opinions
      @fools_opinions Місяць тому +1

      It's right up there with "the ship has a stamina bar"

    • @GentleWruzzPuppet
      @GentleWruzzPuppet Місяць тому

      It's not offline, it's just a private lobby on their servers.

    • @Insanabiliter_In_Linea
      @Insanabiliter_In_Linea Місяць тому +1

      @@GentleWruzzPuppet They should really just call it a private lobby then, good lord that's misleading lol.

  • @leopereira4718
    @leopereira4718 Місяць тому +68

    I give it less than 2 years before other companies start trying to pull shit like this. My money’s on 2K first, EA second.

    • @kungfuskull
      @kungfuskull Місяць тому +15

      2k and Ubisoft... that's a VERY close race for first place. Hrm... 🤔

    • @masonharter2393
      @masonharter2393 Місяць тому +5

      Gonna enter Konami as a contender

    • @C-M-E
      @C-M-E Місяць тому +3

      Fallout First, anyone...

    • @jeremydiaz9642
      @jeremydiaz9642 Місяць тому

      Bethesda might do that with Fallout 76.

    • @mariawhite7337
      @mariawhite7337 Місяць тому

      You really underestimate the depravity of EA. I would guess they rerelease Ultima for full price. 60 per pixel game.

  • @imbro2529
    @imbro2529 Місяць тому +3

    This is the most Ubisoft move the devs could've gone. Game and apology.

  • @zaz6463
    @zaz6463 Місяць тому +3

    I've not played this game at all but have found the news around it absurd.
    In my mind, even if they were to "roll this back" 100% by removing the $250 edition, giving the DLC to the players who deserve it, sending out a serious apology, etc.
    All of that is still not enough. You cant just do something horrible, put it all back - and then be immune to punishment...
    Imagine someone robs a store; "realizes" how much of a mistake that was, and returns the items after they get caught. They should still go to jail...
    And this company should be forced to undergo full scrutiny from both its community and the legal systems.

  • @vwlssnvwls3262
    @vwlssnvwls3262 Місяць тому +15

    In my opinion they deserve zero chance to fix this. Enough companies have had scummy things like this and they should have known better. Only way to fix this for the future is to let it die now, so future devs take notice and stop taking advantage of the good will of players.

    • @quigz125
      @quigz125 Місяць тому

      I will certainly never buy this game. I was interested in it for a while but the fact it’s still in early access and not even on Steam has made me hesitant to spend $50 on the base game. Now I can say 100% I’m never getting it. I’m sure there’s more out there like me too and that’s not good for a company. You never want to turn off potential new customers. Good job BSG!

  • @riskingmybiscuit4209
    @riskingmybiscuit4209 Місяць тому +11

    Every time I log on the EFT after downloading the new “feature content” now it’s just a little button in the corner that I can’t access because my wallet’s not thick enough….. I don’t see this game is paid to win when a hacker will just take that $250 gear from you minutes into the game.

  • @Spingi
    @Spingi Місяць тому +3

    It’s almost like developers forget that their nothing without the players. Shame stuff like this keeps happening.

  • @les121476
    @les121476 Місяць тому +19

    EOD owner since 2017
    I just upgraded to the uninstalled edition. I finally escaped from tarkov.
    Trust has been shattered. The fact they modified the verbiage on the website describing the eod edition was enough to sever my relationship with bsg. I and all my coworkers that play (32of us)
    Have uninstalled. Never going back.
    Currently seeking a new adventure.

    • @DubberRucks
      @DubberRucks Місяць тому

      I hear Helldivers 2 is an experience worth encountering. 👍

    • @dr1flush
      @dr1flush Місяць тому

      That’s a crazy amount of coworkers playing the same game

    • @les121476
      @les121476 Місяць тому

      @@dr1flush it’s a large plant 🤷‍♂️

    • @les121476
      @les121476 Місяць тому

      @@DubberRucks yeah I checked it out. Just seems so boring.
      Spawn in kill bugs
      Spawn out
      Rinse, repeat
      I haven’t played it myself but watching videos looks like it’s lacking that adrenaline rush
      Looks like it could be fun short term
      Looking for something long term
      Even considering going back to ark or atlas

    • @dr1flush
      @dr1flush Місяць тому

      @@les121476 I’m not hating. It’s cool

  • @nursejim2129
    @nursejim2129 Місяць тому +13

    $250 for pay to win? All the hacks people are running to win cost WAAAY less then that.

  • @Zzplys
    @Zzplys Місяць тому +333

    Let me guess... Another AI apology

    • @Natonada
      @Natonada Місяць тому +12

      Lol they didnt even checkproof it probably couldn’t read the english and said eh who cares

    • @rogan4338
      @rogan4338 Місяць тому +27

      Nah Ai would have actually done better

    • @alejandroreyes8878
      @alejandroreyes8878 Місяць тому +17

      AI-pology should be a PR term at this point

    • @Planag7
      @Planag7 Місяць тому +4

      Thankful no. But not really an apology. It's been a ride

    • @2A_W3ND1G0
      @2A_W3ND1G0 Місяць тому +5

      Nikita basically said "I'm sorry you feel this way"

  • @brsubwayfc
    @brsubwayfc Місяць тому +10

    To be fair we need to be more cost conscious across the board to keep corporations in line. When we pay $1000+ for a phone, &70 for a game worth $50 tops, $20+ for a burger, $18+ for a bowl of ramen, $6+ for a cookie, etc., why wouldn’t Ubisoft and these clowns here for Tarkov not try to see how far we will go overpay for a product?

  • @mikemaguire151
    @mikemaguire151 Місяць тому +3

    Selling other people's assets as "unique gear" is incredibly vile behavior for a dev team to do, for creators to steal and resell other work that directly is disgusting
    It's one thing to use store assets in the core game, but to buy a model from an artist and resell their work directly as dlc is criminal and disgusting

  • @Aelitagurl
    @Aelitagurl Місяць тому +13

    Oh damn. They really pulled the "Sorry you feel that way" card 😬💀😂
    🍿🍿🍿

  • @Cortanis001
    @Cortanis001 Місяць тому +7

    Bruh. Do they really think we're that stupid? Like, no really? The fact that they're trying this should be a resounding alarm for people as a buyer beware. You can trust nothing they say.

    • @NuchiAsaki
      @NuchiAsaki Місяць тому

      Sadly, a lot of gamers are that stupid.

  • @bunnipop1867
    @bunnipop1867 Місяць тому +2

    I am still stuck on the fact that this game, rife with hackers/cheaters, has been in beta for 7 years and people ACTUALLY shelled out money for additional assets before the game ever made any reports of potentially moving forward in its developmental stage. Its no surprise that the devs thought they could pull this off, they've been shivving their player base for a hot minute now and have been reaping the benefits all the while.

  • @MusicSkeletonKeys
    @MusicSkeletonKeys Місяць тому +3

    Can’t companies be sued for attempting to reverse course in these situations? Like, they’re even modifying the rule book. Definitely not a precedent to be set.

    • @archibaldthearcher
      @archibaldthearcher Місяць тому +1

      In theory yes but in practice who will waste months or years and thousands of dollars to fight company for 150 bucks especially since there would be a lot of arguing about semantics that can go either way.
      Precedent was already set anyway, just few years back Bethesda did the same thing.
      They sold people season pass for Fallout 4 promising all future content then out of the blue added creation club (something that wasn't even teased when season passes were first sold) and were arguing that this is a completely different thing, not a DLC, even when made by Bethesda employees (They did all sort of gymnastics to avoid any label, they were also arguing these weren't paid mods...just creations made by modders that you pay for and many of them were a version of already existing mods....) so it's not covered by their obligation. They did all the same tricks with changing website description and such to change terms of the transaction made years before
      I remember how much hate was directed at guy (from what was reported it was still a kid and his parents) who was actually trying to fight Bethesda to get what was originally promised to him. No idea if they came to agreement or if the lawsuit was dropped but in any case it got potentially solved for one guy but rest of the community got ripped and they were actually happy about it

  • @nyanchat2657
    @nyanchat2657 Місяць тому +12

    that chatgpt apology is just the icing on the cake

    • @dependent-ability8631
      @dependent-ability8631 Місяць тому

      you can tell it's not even chatgpt because if it was it would of been less garbage

  • @trencehumphries645
    @trencehumphries645 Місяць тому +32

    To play devils advocate, how many people bought a beta for $150? Why wouldn't they think they could get away with this?

    • @Zogger568
      @Zogger568 Місяць тому +5

      if i remember right, the $150 beta was with the promise that ALL future dlc and expansions would be automatically included. it was kinda like buying into the "complete edition".

    • @EskChan19
      @EskChan19 Місяць тому +11

      @@Zogger568 That's correct, but it was still dropping 150 bucks for an early acess game. Really only Star Citizen Cultists have been this stupid before.

    • @Bodharas
      @Bodharas Місяць тому +1

      You're right. They got away with it once already, so of course they thought they could get the dents to pay up another hundo.

    • @Bell-en7xm
      @Bell-en7xm Місяць тому +1

      ​@@EskChan19forget about fallout 76?

    • @trencehumphries645
      @trencehumphries645 Місяць тому

      @@Zogger568 I feel like every few years games get burned because of "promises" made by someone trying to sell something to you. Collectively, we should look at things like that as red flags and not throw massive amounts of cash at them for nothing.

  • @r10101
    @r10101 Місяць тому +2

    3:06 Stop. Why is server infrastructure important for an 'offline', 'not DLC' gamemode that was promised to come for free for those who had the previous pack?
    If a lawsuit was started over this whole thing i would not be surprised.

  • @Nedif
    @Nedif Місяць тому +1

    Funny is, there are many of us Tarkov players that can play Offline for years now, all i need to have is at least the standard edition, and now the COOP MOD has been updated again and now i can basically play the PVE MODE with my friends and all i need is the Standard edition of Tarkov, modders from this game are insane!

  • @peckish1587
    @peckish1587 Місяць тому +10

    They truly are pioneers of greed, setting the example, and testing the waters for what is and is not going to work on communities.
    We cannot and should not buy into these greedy packages and editions (lookin at you SW Outlaws)
    I know there will be the diehard fans and whales who will purchase, but so long as the average consumer can keep money in their pocket, we’ll send a message. The reason they keep doing shit like this is because it’s working - it truly does come down to what we do and what we choose to spend our hard-earned money on.

    • @lautarogomez9711
      @lautarogomez9711 Місяць тому

      Sadly we won't be able to choose what we should spend our money on. Because we won't own anything and we'll be happy with it, although we know we won't be happy with owning nothing and always Having our money and our belongings taken away by these people whose only purpose is to satisfy their selfish and blind lust and wishes to become like the politicians.
      Is like what O'Brien said to smith in 1984.
      "Always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever"

  • @Poputrash
    @Poputrash Місяць тому +1

    6:07 "I'm sorry you think you need an apology" -Rick Sanchez. wow

  • @EskChan19
    @EskChan19 Місяць тому +4

    I always wonder how do people not see the pattern? Like there was this 150$ edition that said "Get all DLC for free!". Then they sneakily remove that, make a 250$ edition and say "Get all DLC for free with this edition only!". Why do people fall for that? Why isn't people's first thought "If they do this once, what's going to stop them from just scratching that and making a 500$ version that says "get all DLC for free!" next time? If they start to redefine what DLC means now, why do you think they will EVER release "DLC" again and not JUST "additionally paid Feature Upgrades"?
    Basically, since they have shown that they are willing to fuck the userbase for any penny they can get, why do people believe that this is a one time thing and won't turn into a pattern?

    • @archibaldthearcher
      @archibaldthearcher Місяць тому

      What do you expect, gamers are probably the worst customer group around, always ignoring all red flags, always ignoring previous experiences and accepting the worst possible offer only to then act surprised when next one is even worse
      If anything I am actually surprised there is any outrage.
      Just few years back Bethesda did the same thing.
      They sold people season pass for Fallout 4 promising all future content then out of the blue added creation club (something that wasn't even teased when season passes were first sold) and were arguing that this is a completely different thing, not a DLC, even when made by Bethesda employees (They did all sort of gymnastics to avoid any label, they were also arguing these weren't paid mods...just creations made by modders that you pay for and many of them were a version of already existing mods....) so it's not covered by their obligation. They did all the same tricks with changing website description and such to change terms of the transaction made years before
      I remember how much hate was directed at guy (from what was reported it was still a kid and his parents) who was actually trying to fight Bethesda to get what was originally promised to him. No idea if they came to agreement or if the lawsuit was dropped but in any case it got potentially solved for one guy but rest of the community got ripped and they were actually happy about it

  • @jmlee737
    @jmlee737 Місяць тому +8

    I'm more blown away from the fact that they actually think their game worth $250. Probably a door-in-the-face strategy but still it's absurd

    • @alexc9434
      @alexc9434 Місяць тому

      The game is $150. $250 is for the extra features. So over all they think their game is worth $400 total. With the $250 you don’t get the game. Only the extra features. You still need to buy the base game to access it.

    • @jmlee737
      @jmlee737 Місяць тому

      @@alexc9434 Is it though? I understand what you're trying to say but I don't think the base game is $150. Standard edition is $50 and the EOD is $150. I know this because I own EOD for myself. The upgrade from EOD to Unheard costs $150 I remember.

  • @gamerkingdom1442
    @gamerkingdom1442 Місяць тому +24

    Well, I’ve definitely UNHEARD of such a game self destructing at this speed. Not even the AAA COMPANIES destroyed themselves this FAST!!!

  • @Spaceman_Sp1ff
    @Spaceman_Sp1ff Місяць тому +2

    Just a reminder that publishers cannot pull the rug out from under you if you dont pre order.

  • @gerboiremoncopaing933
    @gerboiremoncopaing933 Місяць тому +2

    I said it already: an OFFLINE Pve mode who is dependent on "server capacity" from the end of the developer is by definition NOT offline.

  • @crusader-j4126
    @crusader-j4126 Місяць тому +19

    As an EOD owner this was a final nail in the coffin. I'm glad that they backpedaled but it doesn't excuse the predatory behavior. I've been playing Tarkov since 2018 and its always just been broken promises.
    As per-usual nikita doesn't do anything till it blows up in his face, hopefully they learn from this and move in the right direction for the future but I am not a fan of paying 150$ and being told that ALL DLC's are free in the future to then get slapped in the face and told "NUH UH! THATS NOT WHAT IT SAYS!" and double down on said decision.
    If BSG woulda just said "we need money" then I'm sure people would have helped instead of this P2W unjustifiable priced (250$ USD) edition being added, as its TRUELY UNHEARD OF people wanting to buy said edition.

    • @MusicSkeletonKeys
      @MusicSkeletonKeys Місяць тому +3

      “I’m glad they backpedaled…”, why? What was gained?

    • @noonyabeezniss4911
      @noonyabeezniss4911 Місяць тому +3

      YOU are party of the problem brother mane

    • @samc9133
      @samc9133 Місяць тому

      ​@@noonyabeezniss4911 Maybe they are, but let's celebrate them waking up a little yeah?

  • @OriginalUnjustifier
    @OriginalUnjustifier Місяць тому +12

    I already thought that the 250 dollar edition was a borderline scam, didn't realize it ACTUALLY WAS.
    Here comes the lawsuits, fraudulent advertising and bait/switch tactics are hella illegal.

  • @vashstampede6104
    @vashstampede6104 Місяць тому +1

    They knew how unheard of this was, it's in the damn title!! The Unheard of Edition!

  • @R1ckyZer0
    @R1ckyZer0 Місяць тому +3

    It is very concerning on the fact that they consciously think a $250 price on an early access game is ok and even shocked the community got angry by this. Proves how greed can blinds you. I want to emphasize that this is an early access game, it's not released yet. Idk wtf these people in the studio was smoking, but I'm sure they are high af.

  • @acme3drevit
    @acme3drevit Місяць тому +5

    The whole server capacity line is suspect. If everyone bought the new edition then that means their servers would have crashed when they launched it.

    • @samc9133
      @samc9133 Місяць тому +2

      I suspect the claim is a half truth. They can set up additional capacity or rent more racks from their vendor, whatever solution they have in place for capacity. They just don't intend to, and never did. They figured that those who buy the DLC are basically paying for that small amount of capacity and they are getting a nice chunk of change on the side.
      Usually games eat cost to set up experiences which draw people into the game. They are portioning sections off and charging their user base for that. It's absolutely backwards and slimy.

  • @godzilla80192
    @godzilla80192 Місяць тому +8

    This is the reason I never play games in forever BETA

  • @melonetankberry5211
    @melonetankberry5211 Місяць тому

    thx for the update.

  • @GODSPEEDseven
    @GODSPEEDseven Місяць тому +1

    Sad that such a game, not even fully released, is still being supported by a community.

  • @garrettl8247
    @garrettl8247 Місяць тому +4

    I don't understand even one person forgiving anyone who does this kind of thing. it isn't like " oh sorry I wasnt thinking" or something small. it is a scumbag move and will never be forgiven.

  • @LLWoods83
    @LLWoods83 Місяць тому +5

    The video game business is changing, this is like the 3rd game they just straight up lied about what they were doing and stole money from gamers. (KDJL, Escape of Tarkov, The Day After)

    • @samkruse3351
      @samkruse3351 Місяць тому +1

      I was gonna say that days gone was a much bigger scam, but the ratio of the prices is pretty close rip-off wise

  • @pcppbadminton
    @pcppbadminton Місяць тому

    If you read between the lines: almost all of these compromises will either be easily obfuscated in back-end code, making it hard to tell if they're actually there at all, or won't have to be done until the game releases, which may or may not happen at some arbitrary time in the future.

  • @Rman0712
    @Rman0712 Місяць тому

    Either it's a feature that's added on top of the base game, behind some form of paywall (DLC).
    Or it's a new feature being added to the base game, in which case EVERY player should have access.

  • @Duckman-xi9ys
    @Duckman-xi9ys Місяць тому +4

    And this is why I bought gray zone because tarkov is unraveling fast and I Intend to buy other frames that are pretty good looking

  • @T0LMANAT0R
    @T0LMANAT0R Місяць тому +3

    I'm going to try to save some people some money and time.
    If a game costs more than the standard 60 to $70 price tag, then it is a scam.
    All those extra cool features from different Editions were not originally developed to be "extra". These things were developed normally and then Cherry Picked to become "extras". And the extra money that you're paying for these "special features" is going straight into the pockets of the CEOs and board members, not the Developers.
    So, just don't buy anything in the gaming world that goes over the accepted standard max price for a fully developed game.

  • @Alfonso88279
    @Alfonso88279 Місяць тому +2

    "Thanks for the hate" (thanks for the attention he meant). Does he remember that he is talking to the game's fans? He is not talking to "haters" he is talking to offended fans. To the people he should be grateful.
    I mean wtf. Despite being obviously in the wrong and apologizing, he still acts passive aggressive. That guy lacks all self control.

  • @ShinSigmaTheHolyMavericksLaKul
    @ShinSigmaTheHolyMavericksLaKul Місяць тому +2

    Doubling down on the douché bag'ness is wild. Shame on the devs

  • @JJssss
    @JJssss Місяць тому +9

    I mean paying 100$+ for a game is already crazy. What more to say 250. Tarkov players are quite well off, rich i must say