The 14nm to 10nm transition was the point at which everything fell apart. They fell off schedule and tried to paper over it by labeling their follow-on 2nd, 3rd gen 14nm at 14+ and 14++ like they were significantly different or better than the first gen 14nm. Meanwhile they could NOT get 10nm to yield and put it IN production. If Samsung and TSMC could get 10nm to yield and put it into production why couldn't Intel?
Totally fair -- and the world I would like to see is one in which the IP and tooling are both freely available to IFS customers. And sorry if any drink just came out your nose laughing uproariously at the 0% probability that that will ever happen... 😉
Lol, I work in SoC architecture and this was one of the best Oxide and friends episodes. I thoroughly enjoyed every moment. The cultural rot (not just Intel) needs to be studied more tbh.
Intel also screwed up their Altera acquisition. Also their fabs used their proprietary tooling, making things much harder for third parties to use Intel fabs.
YES. As it turns out, two hours isn't nearly long enough to talk about all of Intel's missed opportunities over the years, and the total and complete bungling of Altera was something I was kicking myself for neglecting to mention. Altera is especially painful because one could imagine some really amazing integration with a CPU provider if it were done the right way -- but of course, it wasn't. The best thing about the Altera acquisition may have been that it brought Xilinx to AMD, where I think better integration is at least possible...
The 14nm to 10nm transition was the point at which everything fell apart. They fell off schedule and tried to paper over it by labeling their follow-on 2nd, 3rd gen 14nm at 14+ and 14++ like they were significantly different or better than the first gen 14nm. Meanwhile they could NOT get 10nm to yield and put it IN production. If Samsung and TSMC could get 10nm to yield and put it into production why couldn't Intel?
EDA software while being expensive is not the biggest part. Its the people , salaries and expertise. Building IP (CPU/GPU) is really expensive.
Totally fair -- and the world I would like to see is one in which the IP and tooling are both freely available to IFS customers. And sorry if any drink just came out your nose laughing uproariously at the 0% probability that that will ever happen... 😉
Lol, I work in SoC architecture and this was one of the best Oxide and friends episodes. I thoroughly enjoyed every moment. The cultural rot (not just Intel) needs to be studied more tbh.
Does anyone know what the pat gelsinger supercut is they talk about in the beginning?
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Intel has always relied on Microsoft for the high-level roadmap. Microsoft missing the boat on mobile meant Intel missing the boat.
Intel also screwed up their Altera acquisition. Also their fabs used their proprietary tooling, making things much harder for third parties to use Intel fabs.
YES. As it turns out, two hours isn't nearly long enough to talk about all of Intel's missed opportunities over the years, and the total and complete bungling of Altera was something I was kicking myself for neglecting to mention. Altera is especially painful because one could imagine some really amazing integration with a CPU provider if it were done the right way -- but of course, it wasn't. The best thing about the Altera acquisition may have been that it brought Xilinx to AMD, where I think better integration is at least possible...
Oxide silicon when?
We should hurry and get in on that CHIPS act $$$!
It seems obvious that Intel should be run by Ben & Jerry.