Vanessa & Dennis Scenes (The Goes Wrong Show)

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  • @MykelLinden
    @MykelLinden Рік тому +826

    When she says "Join me in fiction", I think I finally can say I've heard what a broken person sounds like.

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 2 роки тому +1237

    Dennis is such an amazing character, his grip on reality and amateurness makes him a perfect foil for Vanessa's serious but naive character.

  • @continentalrcinglg
    @continentalrcinglg 2 роки тому +262

    "I think this is the first time in my life I've ever felt happy."
    Not gonna lie, that line cuts DEEP.

    • @norbitonflyer5625
      @norbitonflyer5625 Рік тому +21

      Dennis and Vanessa's coupledom is going backwards. They were already divorced in "The Trial", but still married later in Series 1 in "90 Degrees" (although she leaves him for ......... (SPOILERS)). And than at the end of Series 2 they get engaged

    • @darkimpulse2829
      @darkimpulse2829 11 місяців тому +3

      it's a great read of the line

  • @Lord_Baphomet_
    @Lord_Baphomet_ Рік тому +435

    Vanessa honestly has to be the funniest woman in comedy… like the faces she makes and the weird movements and how she sounds like she’s gonna cry or scream all the time is hilarious.

    • @evambknl6546
      @evambknl6546 Рік тому +5

      Agree 10000%

    •  Рік тому +3

      -woman- character

    • @Lord_Baphomet_
      @Lord_Baphomet_ Рік тому +3

      @ no I meant woman

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB Рік тому +6

      @@Lord_Baphomet_I think they mean Vanessa is a character her actor plays

    • @Amethyst_Friend
      @Amethyst_Friend 6 місяців тому +5

      Played by Bryony Corrigan

  • @Jake-d8d
    @Jake-d8d 2 роки тому +476

    I don't care how immature it is, Dennis standing up in court to scream 'Erection!' will always be funny.

    • @Betsybabe3218
      @Betsybabe3218 Рік тому

      The court will be happy to uphold your erectio- objection

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 Рік тому +2

      Objection

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 Рік тому +11

      @@marcoscolga2439What's the matter becky can't keep up ?

    • @gelchert
      @gelchert 7 місяців тому +8

      Jonathan Sayer (who plays Dennis and cowrites all of Mischief’s material) has said he loves those kinds of jokes. The fact that they work so well with Dennis’ character is a nice bonus.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 2 роки тому +325

    "Join me in Fiction!" "Hand me the beeeeuh!" 🤣🤣🤣 She gets so frustrated!

    • @Chikararyoku
      @Chikararyoku 3 місяці тому +1

      the way she says it, it sounds dutch. beer ir bear in dutch. and the; lage beer, would be; the low bear

  • @Skotzenn
    @Skotzenn Рік тому +160

    "join me in fiction" is still one of the best performed lines in the whole show.

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 2 роки тому +244

    I love how these two end up creating even more chaos for the already chaotic plays. Poor Dennis can't ever remember his lines, and Vanessa can't improvise her way around Dennis's mistakes.

    • @ubiergo1978
      @ubiergo1978 4 місяці тому +5

      a year later, but in one of the watch along videos, Jonathan actually says that Bryony is always on top of her lines, while he is not... so they both play the characters at an outstanding pace. =)

  • @rosiefilms552
    @rosiefilms552 2 роки тому +357

    I love how proud she looks when she thinks he’s gonna spell INCOMPETENT right

  • @emperorpalpatine9851
    @emperorpalpatine9851 Рік тому +90

    "Oooooh, The Beeeer" that entire sketch was so brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 2 роки тому +624

    I love how during the fax scene from the pilot (not the pilot) you can see Charlie desperately trying not to laugh.

    • @Art3mis2112
      @Art3mis2112 2 роки тому +43

      same with the scene when Max is trapped and says "to hell with the test" she breaks for just a few seconds. Charlie pointed it out herself lmao

    • @russelltietjen4407
      @russelltietjen4407 2 роки тому +25

      And the Bonnie Peggy Ramsay bit in The Most Lamentable

  • @thedoctor4327
    @thedoctor4327 2 роки тому +1022

    Gods a wedding episode between them would be glorious. What little patience and sanity she has will be gone

    • @joannegray5138
      @joannegray5138 2 роки тому +53

      A Goes Wrong wedding video - just imagine 😉

    • @TraineeHero
      @TraineeHero 2 роки тому +93

      She'd probably throw the bouquet into a ceiling fan and Dennis would be saying 'I do' to everything so he doesn't forget his line.

    • @joannegray5138
      @joannegray5138 2 роки тому +22

      @@TraineeHero lol! Just had an awful thought about the wedding rings getting stuck in an awkward place, or even being swallowed 😄

    • @nought3060
      @nought3060 2 роки тому +2

      @@joannegray5138 There's a song about that. H.Y.C.Y.B.H.

    • @bloodmoon0205
      @bloodmoon0205 2 роки тому +24

      Maybe they could have a double wedding with Max and Sandra

  • @njdevilku1340
    @njdevilku1340 2 роки тому +352

    The beer scene will always be my favorite.

  • @KRComet
    @KRComet 2 роки тому +201

    He remembers nothing but the part where he greats her and calls her my queen. And does his best to interrupt the scenes where she has a leading man.

  • @njdevilku1340
    @njdevilku1340 2 роки тому +641

    They better do their wedding in series 3.

    • @nandoboiii5215
      @nandoboiii5215 2 роки тому +3

      😂

    • @SlipShodBob
      @SlipShodBob 2 роки тому +79

      Well I can't see Vanessa having the heart to say no or to be honest losing the deposit

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 2 роки тому +85

      Then she will become his sex life
      I mean ex-wife

    • @SlipShodBob
      @SlipShodBob 2 роки тому +5

      @@romainsavioz5466 better that than the leader of the prostitution

    • @sophiemacgray9551
      @sophiemacgray9551 2 роки тому +20

      @@SlipShodBob Prosecution!

  • @SuperSlyGunner
    @SuperSlyGunner Рік тому +36

    For me the best moment with dennis is the Bear / Beet moment from 90 degrees... First time I watched it I cried laughing.. Ingeniously written and perfectly executed.

  • @DavidAddis
    @DavidAddis 2 роки тому +98

    A Trial to Watch might be my most favourite bit of TV ever.

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 2 роки тому +11

      They kiss roll credit

    • @hotdog1214
      @hotdog1214 3 місяці тому +1

      Mine too. The crazy sets, the switching of lines; never gets old. 👍👍🤣🤣

    • @Argnad
      @Argnad Місяць тому

      This and 90 degrees

  • @xxAmi15
    @xxAmi15 2 роки тому +127

    Happy June 6th and happy wedding day to Dennis and Vanessa! Maybe we’ll see some footage from the special day in the next season.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 2 роки тому +196

    You could play a drinking game with Dennis' scenes. In Summer Once Again, chug every time he says "hard", and in The Lodge every time he says "Get Out!"

    • @GeekinIreland
      @GeekinIreland 2 роки тому +2

      That's just a very quick way to kill your liver in under 45 minutes I think...

    • @lukacunningham342
      @lukacunningham342 2 роки тому +12

      “If you say coughs again, I’ll hit you!”
      *wHAcK!*

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 2 роки тому +3

      that will be

    • @dtvexhaustedtydtvexhausted5885
      @dtvexhaustedtydtvexhausted5885 Рік тому +3

      I passed out

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@dtvexhaustedtydtvexhausted5885 You could also add a drinking game to take a shot every time Vanessa says NONSENSE or PRITHEE!

  • @barneymetcalfe8896
    @barneymetcalfe8896 2 роки тому +213

    Aka Vanessa gradually getting more and more angry before it climaxes in The Most Lamentable and the process begins again

  • @owendavid6567
    @owendavid6567 2 роки тому +362

    Out of all them, It seems that Vanessa can handle Dennis's craziness the most, and Dennis really does try his best for Vanessa. If you think about it, it's kind of nice that they try for each other and shows that they're perfect for one another. Maybe we can get a play with just these two fun characters together, Like Family Guy's Brian and Stewie.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 2 роки тому +50

      Well Vanessa can't think on her feet so while the others can work around Dennis' incompetence by improvising she has no choice but to try and finish the scene because the script is the only thing in her head at that moment.

    • @seyioyetade
      @seyioyetade Рік тому +2

      @@krashd is there a SERIES 3 pls

    • @simonshepherd492
      @simonshepherd492 Рік тому +8

      They try *HARD for each other. HARD.

  • @dramatic_emma
    @dramatic_emma 2 роки тому +48

    She tries so hard to help him 😂😍

  • @lukacunningham342
    @lukacunningham342 2 роки тому +85

    The reason TGWS is loved because of him, he is the heart of the show. He’s one of the characters that have a little brain yet have a big heart

  • @rosiefilms552
    @rosiefilms552 2 роки тому +27

    When he’s the fax machine she always pats his head 🥺😭😂

  • @feralbluee
    @feralbluee Рік тому +42

    these guys, their writers, the director, the crew are all amazing. the cues the backstage people have to do are as “hard” as anything this group does!! Thank you so very much for this glimpse. i’d never get to see these guys ever!! :) 🎭🌹🌱

  • @harleyhuskey
    @harleyhuskey 2 роки тому +85

    I love this duo, they're great!

  • @bobcartwright7476
    @bobcartwright7476 2 роки тому +26

    "Join me in fiction." is probably my favorite line from series 2.

  • @eozisfine
    @eozisfine 2 роки тому +63

    They're such good actors, they're hilarious

  • @ryanstauffer119
    @ryanstauffer119 11 місяців тому +9

    I showed 13:18 - 14:59 to a friend of mine because we were in a play together in our senior year in high school and the clip reminded me of how she was just as frustrated as Vanessa because there was a guy the play that was driving her nuts. Just like Vanessa, my friend tried to hide her frustration, but you could see by the look on her face that she was losing it. When I showed my friend this clip, she said how she was getting frustrated by watching it. It basically made her relieve the moment when the two were on stage. Robert saying "I don't even want to be in this scene" was basically how I felt in the background of our play when I was watching the ridiculousness happen between my friend and the one guy.

  • @edwardreed67
    @edwardreed67 2 роки тому +65

    Call me a hopeless romantic, but I like it think Venessa did actually fall in love with Dennis and they did get married

    • @vera1933
      @vera1933 Рік тому +9

      me too 😭 i love them together so much

  • @micshork
    @micshork 2 роки тому +92

    Imagine if they do a 3rd season and they wound up actually getting married off screen? One episode Dennis could get mad that his wife is playing a role that requires her to kiss another guy. The story within the story.

  • @RS250Squid
    @RS250Squid 2 роки тому +15

    I've had the goose song stuck in my head for over a day now!

  • @samanthawaterman5978
    @samanthawaterman5978 2 роки тому +15

    Just love this group of actors,never laughed so much!! 😆

  • @jonathancook4022
    @jonathancook4022 2 роки тому +55

    Vanessa is like Dennis's theatre-based baby-sitter! Pitty the poor thespian!

  • @makeacakestudio381
    @makeacakestudio381 2 роки тому +54

    It will be cool to see the wedding episode that goes wrong!

    • @IsiahTomas
      @IsiahTomas 2 роки тому +5

      Or four funerals that doesn't go right.

  • @rculver9056
    @rculver9056 Рік тому +13

    That satisfied look Vanessa give at 9:30 lol
    Bryony is so bloody good!

  • @cristinaglorialopez4429
    @cristinaglorialopez4429 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for sharing our pain (9:47) 🤣🤣🤣
    ~ Every non English speaker trying to learn

  • @mihirneve514
    @mihirneve514 10 місяців тому +25

    "Why are you so confused" ( 14:51 ) and "Get Malcolm, Get Malcolm! Get Malcolm!" (15:47) are the peaks of frustration! Amazing delivery by Vanessa. Cracks me up all the time 😂

  • @TomKelly-bp5me
    @TomKelly-bp5me Рік тому +17

    The bit where he thinks there getting married is brilliant

  • @SilentHotdog28
    @SilentHotdog28 6 місяців тому +3

    That line "I put my sausage up it's-------" then he was cutoff, that was fantastic, caught me so off guard even though he was already singing about that sort of thing haha. I couldn't physically stop laughing for nearly 10 minutes......it actually got to a point where I couldn't breath properly and wanted to drink water, but couldn't haha. I finally calmed down, then what did I do? Of course I had to watch it again.

  • @marygoround1292
    @marygoround1292 5 місяців тому +4

    My favorite has always been when Dennis knows everyone else's lines perfectly except his own

  • @JanGaarni
    @JanGaarni 9 місяців тому +5

    9:18 my favorite part, her walking angry up to Dennis and smacking him. 😂😂

  • @crazydude2361
    @crazydude2361 2 роки тому +42

    8:05 one of my favourite scenes in all of TV xD

  • @TheNickNuttall
    @TheNickNuttall Рік тому +36

    Them making full meals for a play and actually eating them is such a perfect little microcosm of how incompetent Cornley is.

    • @anneon6927
      @anneon6927 5 місяців тому +3

      incommpentente, as they say (i'm sure i didnt quite get the misspelling right but u get the idea xD)

    • @anneon6927
      @anneon6927 5 місяців тому +6

      also that and the way they don't memorize their lines that are 'on paper' for the shows lmao. they would cut down like 15% on mistakes if they didn't actually read everything in front of them 😂

    • @almightykellus2585
      @almightykellus2585 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@anneon6927incommpetententente (I remember it because of the 4 "t"s)

  • @jonpriston8784
    @jonpriston8784 Рік тому +24

    "Leader of the prostitution"
    This show is both genius and hilarious in equal measures

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 3 місяці тому

      If you don’t like your exwive, that’s a killer insult😂

  • @rattanrahul1576
    @rattanrahul1576 2 роки тому +6

    This is a brilliant show

  • @CookiehsAndDreams
    @CookiehsAndDreams 2 роки тому +45

    only Vanessa would accidently propose to someone.

    • @gelchert
      @gelchert 7 місяців тому +4

      Only Dennis would mistake it for an actual proposal. Credit where credit’s due - that was actually a really good improv on Vanessa’s part.

  • @thelongdarkteatimeofthesou4497
    @thelongdarkteatimeofthesou4497 2 роки тому +10

    These guys are amazing.

  • @SevenDaysToNoon
    @SevenDaysToNoon Рік тому +3

    Genius. They need to do more of these. I have S1 and S2 and A Christmas Carol & Peter Pan. I think that’s the lot.

  • @tanks4nuthin964
    @tanks4nuthin964 2 роки тому +10

    God I love this show

  • @JavertRA
    @JavertRA 3 місяці тому +2

    The humour coming from the fact that Vanessa can't improvise to save her life whilst Bryony Corrigan is one of the talented MMNI master improvisers.

  • @bluedragon9802
    @bluedragon9802 Рік тому +6

    Hopefully in series 3 we can see more of them and they love story

  • @kerrygligorovic9758
    @kerrygligorovic9758 2 роки тому +50

    In The Cornley Drama Festival Part 1 was Vanessa really serious about accepting Dennis's proposal to marry him even though they were supposed to be acting during performance because he though they were planning to get married soon😄😆😂.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 2 роки тому +28

      No, she was just so focused on her attempt at improvising that she seemed oblivious to the fact that he was taking it seriously. That's how I see it anyway, the marriage proposal and Dennis' replies were the closest Vanessa ever came to a successfully improvised scene where she doesn't say the word "Lusty" so she was likely 100% "in fiction", as she herself would say, and completely oblivious to the fact Dennis wasn't improvising.

    • @norbitonflyer5625
      @norbitonflyer5625 Рік тому +12

      Dennis didn't propose to her - it was the other way round. I think she realised pretty quickly that Dennis hadn't "joined her in fiction", but couldn't stop him before he'd told his mother and booked the venue (on her credit card!)

  • @emperorpalpatine9851
    @emperorpalpatine9851 Рік тому +8

    This Beef is tough as old boots 🤣

  • @WestLegend03
    @WestLegend03 Рік тому +8

    I nearly choked on "bEear" scene

  • @genericusername1566
    @genericusername1566 2 роки тому +44

    12:03 Incommpetententente

  • @ChrisCreats
    @ChrisCreats 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve seen the bear, beer one so many times but it’s still bloody funny

  • @lordalessan
    @lordalessan 2 роки тому +11

    I always wished the show would write them as a couple, much like Sandra and Max.

    • @norbitonflyer5625
      @norbitonflyer5625 Рік тому +4

      It does - in Cornley Drama Festival. Unless Dennis is going to be VERY dissappointed.

  • @mrlagoonslawyer
    @mrlagoonslawyer 2 роки тому +12

    "jOin mE in FIc|TIoN"

  • @joperhop
    @joperhop 6 місяців тому +3

    "join me in fiction" is one of the best scenes ever written in human history!

  • @kristerlewenton5136
    @kristerlewenton5136 8 місяців тому +2

    Brilliant!!!! Love it!

  • @krashd
    @krashd 2 роки тому +15

    8:39 I think that episode would have been funnier if by the time Dennis had to eat the rubber galoshes his moustache would have been covered in goulash from the four (or was it 6?) bowls he had just been forced to eat. Let alone bits of that cake.

  • @michaelottinger
    @michaelottinger 2 роки тому +18

    I want a "Tennessee Bears" shirt.

  • @DalionHeartTTV
    @DalionHeartTTV 2 роки тому +17

    Not tha bear, tha BEEEEEEAR

  • @noelleperez6771
    @noelleperez6771 2 роки тому +17

    "No, that's reality. Join me in fiction."

  • @seangriffiths4967
    @seangriffiths4967 2 роки тому +16

    "Vim!" 😂

  • @sush1_cat871
    @sush1_cat871 Рік тому +2

    I got to see Peter Pan Goes Wrong live :) and then I think I got sick, I might have the flu now but totally worth it to see NPH

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 7 місяців тому

      Do they do a NPH version of the David Suchet reprising Poirot gag from the special?

  • @HonestlyAnnaFun
    @HonestlyAnnaFun 5 місяців тому +2

    The throat singing. Vvviiimmmmmmmm

  • @fictionisgood7226
    @fictionisgood7226 7 місяців тому +3

    I will never get over the fact that Vanessa and Dennis very well could have actually gotten married due to Vanessa’s social anxiety just making her role with it instead.

  • @the_god_abandinus
    @the_god_abandinus 4 місяці тому

    "Because I'm tired of getting off with guilty men!" is a great line.

  • @lovesurvives4437
    @lovesurvives4437 2 роки тому +10

    Vanessa & Dennis forever

  • @billygillan821
    @billygillan821 2 роки тому +1

    Great watching like Carry on movie on stage.😸😸😸

  • @joshuadixon4090
    @joshuadixon4090 2 роки тому +16

    "She said you're a solid 8 and I'm a tew."

  • @ryanstauffer119
    @ryanstauffer119 11 місяців тому +5

    It's a shame season 3 was canceled. Would've been interesting to see how it Dennis and Venessa being married could've gone.

  • @investigatelife8281
    @investigatelife8281 3 місяці тому

    Excellent...so clever 👋

  • @emperorpalpatine9851
    @emperorpalpatine9851 Рік тому +3

    GET OOOOOOUT! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @I_Im_Over_There
    @I_Im_Over_There Рік тому +10

    “ERECTION!” Love it

  • @jonathancook4022
    @jonathancook4022 2 роки тому +6

    Please post a video on just 'ruffles' the dog - that was the best gag ever!

  • @tamlyttle1234
    @tamlyttle1234 3 дні тому

    Why the hell hasn't this been screened on mainstream television.Peter Pan and the rest are hilarious 😂😅🤣😆

  • @tundrajt
    @tundrajt Рік тому +5

    Dennis’s mom is so wrong. Vanessa is a solid 9, maybe even a 10, in my book!

  • @Jayfive276
    @Jayfive276 Рік тому +3

    Dennis's Mum is spot on, Nessa is an 8 at the minimum :)

  • @agatahighstein
    @agatahighstein 8 місяців тому +1

    I quote "Join me in fiction" on the daily

  • @ubiergo1978
    @ubiergo1978 4 місяці тому

    13:51 Gotta love Vanessa/Bryony's tongue when she says "no". =P

  • @morganoland6653
    @morganoland6653 Місяць тому +1

    Forever, forever, a mess😅

  • @FrostekFerenczy
    @FrostekFerenczy 3 місяці тому +1

    Bryony Corrigan is so funny and gorgeous too!

  • @jamesmccallum8641
    @jamesmccallum8641 2 роки тому +7

    Why Are You Confused?!

  • @LordvanquishPowerRangers
    @LordvanquishPowerRangers Місяць тому +1

    Or "Vennis". That's their ship name.

  • @Katherink123
    @Katherink123 2 роки тому +5

    what special is the one where theyre all wearing solid color t shirts?

    • @krashd
      @krashd 2 роки тому +5

      That is either episode 4 or 5 of series 2 of The Goes Wrong Show. The episodes are called Cornley Drama Festival part 1 and part 2 (or something like that) and rather than featuring plays those episodes feature the drama society members performing their own minor plays and drama workshops - When it's Vanessa's turn she holds an improv workshop where everyone is wearing a brightly coloured shirt like on a kid's TV show.

    • @rculver9056
      @rculver9056 2 роки тому +3

      @@krashd The way she surprises herself when she snaps her hands is pure brilliance.

    • @The_froggy_one
      @The_froggy_one 3 місяці тому

      ❤well no one is passed otu so i think it episode 4​@krashd

  • @Mewhen12369
    @Mewhen12369 2 місяці тому

    If a third season, or anything televised happens, I'd love to see them be married and her actually falling for dennis. I think that would be very fun

  • @admthrawnuru
    @admthrawnuru 10 місяців тому +1

    I hope there's another season or special to flesh it out, but if not my head cannon is that Vanessa does marry Dennis only because she can't think of a way to let him down.

  • @Know1one
    @Know1one Рік тому

    This is like a british SNL

  • @clyrus
    @clyrus 12 днів тому

    Him eating the boot was what he deserved, but seriously, funny stuff.

  •  Рік тому +1

    Plimmley-Mooth.

  • @njdevilku1340
    @njdevilku1340 2 роки тому +26

    Wonder what the galoshes were made out of? Did he actually swallow?

    • @CalebLLShow
      @CalebLLShow 2 роки тому +10

      I don’t know but if Vanessa doesn’t figure something out soon
      She might have to swallow on Dennis’s wedding night 😂🤣

    • @DreamcoatTechnicolor
      @DreamcoatTechnicolor 2 роки тому +20

      I think I heard that they were made of licorice, but I'm gonna have to check where I heard that!

    • @tuxedobike4067
      @tuxedobike4067 2 роки тому +16

      I think they were made of that malleable icing you can get, dyed black. The soles might be something different, though!

    • @DreamcoatTechnicolor
      @DreamcoatTechnicolor 2 роки тому +7

      @@tuxedobike4067 yes, i found the source i was thinking of! lol they were in fact made of icing sugar... (it's the virgin media interview with henry shields, henry lewis, and jonathan sayer)

    • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
      @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 2 роки тому +5

      I think I remember an interview where Jon said the toes on the boots had been replaced with black fondant icing. I could be misremembering that though.

  • @trevorburke8660
    @trevorburke8660 8 місяців тому +3

    I adore dennis so damn much. He makes this whole premise work. or not work. Whatever, hes perfectly awful.

  • @animaltvi9515
    @animaltvi9515 2 роки тому +5

    Join me in fiction

  • @antisoda
    @antisoda 9 днів тому

    *Vim!* :)

  • @nataliee.parker2873
    @nataliee.parker2873 2 місяці тому

    Is it bad that I ship them? Cause oh boy, do I ever...

  • @Logarithm906
    @Logarithm906 2 роки тому +4

    incomnpetententente

  • @CreeperBoyGamingyt
    @CreeperBoyGamingyt 2 дні тому

    6:54 this line goes too deep