Der holle Rache - Edda Moser - Die Zauberflote (live 1972)

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  • Metropolitan Opera House, New York
    December 23, 1972
    Peter Maag, cond.

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  • @teaanv
    @teaanv 12 років тому +77

    She is the best Queen in recorded history. No doubt.

    • @Wotan123456789
      @Wotan123456789 3 роки тому +4

      Lot of doubts. A great Queen of the Night for sure; the best... not so sure.

    • @Cinnamon_tube
      @Cinnamon_tube 9 днів тому

      what about Cristina Deutekom?

    • @dalvastar312
      @dalvastar312 7 днів тому

      @Cinnamon_tube great but she doesnt encompasses the anger and rage that edda does, I think cristina is an amazing singer out of this world but regarding the performance Edda Moser does it better because it feels like you can feel the anger in her voice as opposed to other sopranos

    • @dalvastar312
      @dalvastar312 7 днів тому

      @@Wotan123456789 who would u say its the best ?

    • @Wotan123456789
      @Wotan123456789 7 днів тому

      @ It is all a matter of taste. I particularly enjoy Lucia Popp and Sumi Jo.
      Popp attacks on the role is bold, blund and accurate.
      Sumi Jo in her light instrument has unrivalled pitch and precision.
      I understand that some might like larger voices, but it wasn't clearly Mozart's thoughts when he composed this role.

  • @barryedmunds3557
    @barryedmunds3557 9 років тому +65

    Eddy Moser is one of my favorite performers. Not because everything is perfect but the passion she brings to the music.

    • @danawinsor1380
      @danawinsor1380 8 років тому +9

      +Barry Edmunds Thank you for your comment. I was not previously familiar with her singing. Goodness knows her rendition 'Der Holle Rache' sounds like a lady not to be trifled with!

    • @valentinsenner6418
      @valentinsenner6418 7 років тому

      Barry Edmunds

    • @beachfanatic2010
      @beachfanatic2010 7 років тому

      She is extremely musical, indeed!

    • @eduardobraivein8496
      @eduardobraivein8496 6 років тому

      Barry Edmunds I agree with you.

  • @lionelthiebaud7081
    @lionelthiebaud7081 7 місяців тому +3

    Sans doute la plus grande reine de la nuit de tous les temps avec je pense, et étonné qu'elle ne soit pas citée, Lucia Popp dans son enregistrement officiel avec Klemperer chez EMI en 1964, sublime version autant que Edda Moser, j'adore les deux et surtout merci Mozart pour un tel chef d'œuvre

  • @barryedmunds3557
    @barryedmunds3557 11 років тому +29

    Edda Moser is the greatest performer of this aria/role I have ever heard. EVERYTHING IS PERFECTION. The Queen is pissed is she is coming for you. BRAVA BRAVA BRAVA!!!
    ROCK ON EDDA!!!!!!!!!

  • @artdanks
    @artdanks 10 років тому +56

    The best and ballsiest Queen of the Night EVER! Brava!

    • @vettegaddia6234
      @vettegaddia6234 10 років тому +6

      By far!

    • @williammaddox3339
      @williammaddox3339 7 років тому

      Vette - She is good but her middle voice lacks sheen and true beauty in this performance. Her studio version is better and I believe it was recorded a few years before this performance. By the early 80's her voice was shot; there's a ghastly Lucia on YT from that period and she wasn't old at the time.

    • @eduardobraivein8496
      @eduardobraivein8496 6 років тому +1

      Art Danks The as-yet-unsurpassed Queen of the Night of all times (both vocally and dramatically)
      The other interpreter I like in this role (though her characterization is entirely different from Moser's) is Zdzislawa Donat.

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 3 роки тому

      @@eduardobraivein8496 I agree. I saw Donat as the Königin der Nacht at San Francisco in 1975, and her interpretation, though more lightweight than Moser's, was yet focused and formidable, musicianly and accurate. I enjoyed it very much. And her Polish accent in the spoken dialogue (done in English) was charming!

  • @brunopicaude3092
    @brunopicaude3092 4 роки тому +16

    CALLAS used to say that "the most difficult in this aria are not the top F _if you possess them_ but the triplets which are really difficult to sing in time and regularly".
    Edda Moser is really impressive.

    • @filipp721
      @filipp721 5 місяців тому

      In fact she said that that it the most difficult technique in opera!

  • @Aishiya1
    @Aishiya1 10 років тому +28

    She really does a good job of making the Queen sound hysterical, but stylish at the same time. She's really great.

  • @solbrea7699
    @solbrea7699 4 місяці тому +2

    La mejor interpretación que he escuchado de esta obra.

  • @KathrynARyder
    @KathrynARyder 7 років тому +21

    Edda Moser is truly ferocious in this aria! On her commercial recordings of this aria she is slightly softer and more tame, so this live recording is a marvel to behold !!!!

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 10 років тому +28

    Huge voice and perfect coloratura. She even takes on the triplets of death perfectly.

  • @Nina-no8qj
    @Nina-no8qj 5 років тому +17

    Not even gonna lie, the first time I heard her sing thing, I got goosebumps. (Spoiler alert: I still do) A true Dramatic Coloratura Soprano. Bravo!

  • @cindyoh9739
    @cindyoh9739 8 років тому +14

    When I first listened to her version, it gave me shivers. Then I listened to other singers' versions. I think she expressed the feelings pretty well. Her version is the best.

  • @callastoujours
    @callastoujours 12 років тому +10

    WOW!! I think this is the perfect Queen of the Night voice. Astonishing!!

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 6 років тому +9

    Very good !!! Essential here is not only the high F:s in tune but the dialogue before her aria. She mastered both.

  • @davidbaron77
    @davidbaron77 4 роки тому +5

    Incredible passion, precision and dramatic expression. Wow.

  • @Kivimusic
    @Kivimusic 12 років тому +7

    That thick amazing vibrato and that agility = impossible opposites...

    • @beachfanatic2010
      @beachfanatic2010 7 років тому +2

      It ois not a thick vibrato it is a THICK, HUGE voice!

  • @schneevongestern9898
    @schneevongestern9898 4 роки тому +2

    Die beste Königin der Nacht, finde ich.
    Die staccati sind gigantisch und wie eine Mischung aus Trompete und Flöte. Beeindruckend.

  • @mvcpastkambcstccr8563
    @mvcpastkambcstccr8563 9 років тому +7

    HA HA HA , wahrhaft Oper Oper Oper
    ....meine Erinnerung an Edda Moser war :
    La grande Moser betrat die Bühne, sie sah SANG & siegte !
    Wie eine Göttin, sie ist und bleibt die beste ALLERBESTE KÖNIGIN DER NACHT
    nicht nur in der famosen Ponelle -Inszenierung .... waren das noch Zeiten ....

  • @Smaug1
    @Smaug1 12 років тому +27

    Also, I think Mozart would be happy to know that a German lady is STILL the best Queen of the Night. :)

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 4 роки тому +1

      @Cornelia Quite right. My Viennese friends are more like soft-spoken, good-humored Italians than they are like Germans. Interesting.

    • @Wotan123456789
      @Wotan123456789 3 роки тому +1

      A Salzburger happy a northern Germany singer? Not so sure

    • @swaingles
      @swaingles 3 роки тому

      You know. . . I was just to upload the same comment. I agree with you completely

    • @robert111k
      @robert111k 11 місяців тому

      I don't think Mozart would give any importance to Moser's nationality. Maybe Wagner...

  • @anubhabchatterjee5269
    @anubhabchatterjee5269 9 років тому +32

    Best queen of the night ever

  • @ozanbatbeki2484
    @ozanbatbeki2484 2 роки тому +2

    This is perfection.

  • @bulentcinar4289
    @bulentcinar4289 11 років тому +2

    Such forceful, fluent, dynamic execution... Truly inspiring!

  • @rodeocyclone
    @rodeocyclone 13 років тому +8

    Queen of the Queens of the Night

  • @Poetxx9
    @Poetxx9 12 років тому +3

    nn mi capacito di come una voce così estesa e potente sia risultata inetta nel belcanto italiano!

  • @jairussindayen906
    @jairussindayen906 6 років тому +3

    Sooooo beautiful voice. Fit for a queen

  • @MaliestherM
    @MaliestherM 4 роки тому

    Buenísima! Mucha fuerza interpretativa y en cada nota cantada! Bravo!

  • @Stenliuski
    @Stenliuski 11 років тому +7

    Amazing!!!

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 5 років тому +9

    One thing to notice is her voice slices right through the orchestra. The orchestra is a little larger than normal here because Edda voice is so big that it could drown it out. This is how the Queen of the Night needs to sound.

  • @Ariadne7710
    @Ariadne7710 11 років тому +5

    Bravissima!!!!! The ultimate Queen of the Night without equal.

  • @beachfanatic2010
    @beachfanatic2010 9 років тому +36

    Edda's incredibly powerful and absolutely GIGANTIC in size instrument is unbelievable! And no question she is by far the best dramatic soprano with coloratura. She could have been a Callas but lack the confidence!!!

    • @CASantos
      @CASantos 9 років тому +7

      +chosentenore Agreed, never expected to hear such a heavy and metallic voice nailing what is often (for lack of a better term) "canary" repertoire. And it definitely suits the Queen in this aria. My only wish with her might be what you alluded to regarding confidence or at least being adventurous like Callas: in my opinion she could have handled also tackling some assoluta roles like Armida, Abigaille, maybe Lady M, etc.

    • @beachfanatic2010
      @beachfanatic2010 9 років тому +8

      Christopher Santos
      I agree too. Edda had a very good low register as well. Not as strong and contralto-like as Callas but for sure resonant and of good size.

    • @danawinsor1380
      @danawinsor1380 8 років тому +1

      +chosentenore Interesting. This rendition by Frau Moser sounds, to me at least, closer to a "Callas Queen of the Night" as anyone else.

    • @beachfanatic2010
      @beachfanatic2010 7 років тому +1

      You are right. This is the closest voice of how it would have sound had Callas ever sang the Queen of the Night....sinply incredible, I always come back to this recording.

    • @artdanks
      @artdanks 6 років тому

      @@beachfanatic2010 Callas DID sing the Queen of the Night, in the very early part of her career. But it was never recorded, and she only did very few performances.

  • @musicatiranna553
    @musicatiranna553 9 років тому +5

    stupenda..grandissima edda.

  • @valentinadellafemina2465
    @valentinadellafemina2465 4 роки тому +6

    Meravigliosa

  • @rosebudslove1247
    @rosebudslove1247 3 роки тому +4

    her and cristina deutekom do this aria JUSTICE

  • @totallyawake
    @totallyawake 11 років тому +2

    Nobody better than her.. really! unbelievably how great :D

  • @KarinFrancoisedeStinger
    @KarinFrancoisedeStinger 7 років тому +2

    The Best, la mejor reina de la noche, de todos los tiempos

  • @gianerajohn436
    @gianerajohn436 4 роки тому +14

    It’s sad that Moser never really ventured down the bel canto path when Callas has already bulldozered the way down for miraculous voices like hers and Moser’s. Imagine Moser singing confrontational duets like Figlia impura or Armida’s finale. Like her D’oreste d’aiace x100!

    • @WongAndrew_
      @WongAndrew_ 3 роки тому +1

      Her dramatic capabilities could definitely nail Armida's finale!!!!

  • @80Mrmirko
    @80Mrmirko 13 років тому +3

    Una furia di suono!!

  • @Ariadne7710
    @Ariadne7710 13 років тому +3

    THE ONE AND ONLY QUEEN OF THE NIGHT!!!!!

  • @JERIGNUSS
    @JERIGNUSS 4 роки тому +1

    WHAT A RUSH! SUPERB! VOCE ECCELLENTE!

  • @macolga100
    @macolga100 12 років тому +2

    Miracle.

  • @danielrodriguez9630
    @danielrodriguez9630 4 роки тому +1

    Increible!!!Para la historia....

  • @bauchmann9971
    @bauchmann9971 Рік тому +3

    The only dramatic queen I know!

  • @annagoodmusic
    @annagoodmusic 6 років тому +3

    The REAL Queen of the night !!!!

  • @adamovakoreneva
    @adamovakoreneva 3 роки тому +1

    Bravissima!!! 🌹🌹🌹❤

  • @arturo8402
    @arturo8402 11 років тому +1

    This does it for me!!

  • @ahmedchaabane5951
    @ahmedchaabane5951 7 років тому +3

    this is perfect

  • @Ethratian
    @Ethratian 13 років тому +15

    @miesermogelvogel
    Well Damrau is good and one of my favourites and maybe the second best queen of the night this world has ever seen, but Edda still reigns supreme.

  • @franceseattle
    @franceseattle 11 років тому +2

    Best Queen of the Night ever!!!

  • @josereyangelhernandezcruz
    @josereyangelhernandezcruz 12 років тому +3

    Todas, absolutamente todas las cantantes que han interpretado esta aria tan exigente son maravillosas, cada una con sus propias cualidades, pero para mi gusto la mejor es la interpretada por la gran soprano holandesa Cristina Deutekom, para mi, ella no tiene rival en cuanto a la coloratura y el preciosismo de su voz. Adoro a la Deutekom.

  • @fs6887
    @fs6887 4 роки тому +2

    The best ever

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 12 років тому +4

    Josepha was reincarnated as Edda. I swear cause this is perfection.

  • @selysia
    @selysia 12 років тому +3

    This is spectacular. And I agree, sounding angry is good for this aria, because this woman is majorly pissed off. And after reviewing this opera lately, I can understand why :)

  • @MrFalconford
    @MrFalconford 13 років тому +1

    the message is clear

  • @CanyonTide
    @CanyonTide 11 років тому +1

    Brilliant!

  • @TristanLaurens
    @TristanLaurens 9 років тому +17

    Her speaking voice is soooo different that her singing voice! I'm shocked O.o XD

    • @vincenzoanzoletti6776
      @vincenzoanzoletti6776 9 років тому

      Tristan Laurens Yes, but her speaking voice is beautiful, so sweet and gentile!

    • @theartfulme1898
      @theartfulme1898 9 років тому +9

      +Vincenzo Anzoletti I'm sorry, but there's nothing sweet about Moser's speaking. Here she sounds intimidating and menacing. Even in her later interviews she sounded dry. And I love it!

    • @vincenzoanzoletti6776
      @vincenzoanzoletti6776 9 років тому

      +ArtfulI I didn't mean here, but in her interview with August Everding, which is available here on youtube.

    • @theartfulme1898
      @theartfulme1898 9 років тому +1

      +Vincenzo Anzoletti Well, let's agree to disagree then, because despite being poised and speaking softly, I still don't feel any sweetness coming from her. She is rather dry at some points of that interview. Cheers! =]

    • @CASantos
      @CASantos 9 років тому

      +Tristan Laurens Hm... Do you maybe have the voices mixed up? She's the deeper sounding of the two here, and her speaking voice is definitely as dark and menacing as one would expect of her huge dramatic soprano voice, in my opinion.

  • @acanthe83
    @acanthe83 13 років тому

    incredible

  • @swaingles
    @swaingles 3 роки тому

    How cames a mezzo-soprano should be able to sing such complex and high pitched aria? It is out of this world. Frau Moser is beyond belief.

  • @travellingboardingtime
    @travellingboardingtime 13 років тому +1

    Very powerful

  • @KINGNIARE
    @KINGNIARE 12 років тому

    Stupendous!

  • @LuisCatalanAravena
    @LuisCatalanAravena 12 років тому +1

    I totally agree.

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 12 років тому +2

    @JonnyLabrada on this aria sounding angry is a good thing.

  • @jimbuxton2187
    @jimbuxton2187 4 роки тому +12

    if this was Paminas mother, she would have killed Sarastro....!

    • @xanthippe9757
      @xanthippe9757 2 роки тому +1

      In this aria she is in high rage! Incredibile! Wow! Chapeau!

  • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
    @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 4 роки тому +1

    Moser's voice reminds me a bit of Deutekom.

  • @1985eleniathens
    @1985eleniathens 12 років тому +6

    She is great!Diana Damrau is also excellent at this aria!

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 12 років тому +5

    I certainly don't want to piss her off...She sounds just so angry.

    • @robert111k
      @robert111k 5 років тому +1

      Of course she does. She is menacing her only daughter to disown her should she not murder some guy.

  • @VolkmarKlemm
    @VolkmarKlemm 12 років тому +2

    i fully agree. after years of research i come to the conclusion: nobody surpasses her - with the possible exception of the so elsusive josepha hofer... we will never find out...

  • @glaucoselva3327
    @glaucoselva3327 3 роки тому +2

    mamma mia

    • @xanthippe9757
      @xanthippe9757 2 роки тому

      Oh holy shit! She is the best and really queen of the night in rage! WOW!

    • @glaucoselva3327
      @glaucoselva3327 2 роки тому

      @@xanthippe9757 almost devil

  • @squiddles8
    @squiddles8 4 роки тому +1

    Yass Queen!

  • @ubedajils
    @ubedajils 11 років тому +1

    Siento la grosería, pero: me he cagado vivo! GENIAL!!

  • @schneevongestern9898
    @schneevongestern9898 4 роки тому +5

    Her staccati sound like a trumpet. Absutely fantastic. True dramatic coloratura should sound like this. She owns this role like no other.
    Damrau is often mentioned with this role.
    Her acting was great. It always was one of her winning features. Especially comedy and fierce roles.
    But her singing never was dramatic. And I think she didn't do good to her voice singing dramatic stuff. I always perceived her voice as something lighter and brighter. But not dramatic.

    • @MidnightIsolde
      @MidnightIsolde 4 місяці тому

      I agree. This is obvious when one listens to just audio of Damrau. Great singer no doubt, but not a true dramatic voice.

  • @Royalorgans
    @Royalorgans 12 років тому +2

    Edda Moser and Joan Sutherland are the best queens ever.

    • @robert111k
      @robert111k 5 років тому

      Sutherland? She never sung this. She did sung something that sounded similar but a full tone down.

    • @jjh2456
      @jjh2456 5 років тому

      robert111k she sung it once in London. She wanted to check it off as a part of the coloratura repertoire. You are correct she took it down a semi tone cause she couldn’t hit those F6s.

    • @mitka_akkoyun
      @mitka_akkoyun 4 роки тому +1

      Maria callas, deutekom, tebaldi and moser

  • @dificilhardhart
    @dificilhardhart 13 років тому +1

    @elisabethkenner2 ganz richtig

  • @mjmacmtenor
    @mjmacmtenor 12 років тому +2

    The clarity of the staccati and the fullness of the sound are amazing (though some of the runs could be clearer). One of the (VERY) few sopranos who can do both. The only others I can think are Sutherland (who rarely did this) and Christian Deutekom (who did it great, but slower).

    • @eduardobraivein8496
      @eduardobraivein8496 6 років тому +5

      mjmacmtenor Sutherland sang this role only once (Covent Garden, January 1962) and transposed both arias one tone down.

  • @gggggggggggggggggg161
    @gggggggggggggggggg161 5 років тому +4

    Even greater queen of the night than Christina Deutekom or Callas. Patricia Petibon and especially Sumi Jo also do a wonderful job in this role. Diana Damrau seems to get quite hyped but she doesn't impress me at all, she has so little emotion I'm not yet convinced she's not a robot

    • @revmiguel2000
      @revmiguel2000 4 роки тому +5

      Callas didn’t sing the Queen of the Night.

    • @przemysawkaczowka5238
      @przemysawkaczowka5238 2 роки тому

      Also Lucia Popp. Perfect, even if lighter, but such an amazing voice.

    • @lionelthiebaud7081
      @lionelthiebaud7081 7 місяців тому

      ​@@przemysawkaczowka5238entièrement d'accord avec vous

  • @SteelyPhil37
    @SteelyPhil37 11 років тому +3

    Easily one of the best if not the best. I've heard cleaner takes from other sopranos (e.g. Damrau), but not at this tempo and with this much energy.

  • @Smaug1
    @Smaug1 12 років тому +1

    Agree with OperaMystery. Moser was the best, I've heard on UA-cam. The only one I've heard who can compare is Margaret Price, in the recording for Philips, on the Complete Mozart Edition. That one is of course perfect, as it is a studio recording. This is the best live one I've heard.

    • @jasonhurd4379
      @jasonhurd4379 6 років тому +1

      Jeremy D Margaret Price is Pamina in the recording to which you refer. Luciana Serra is Königin der Nacht.

  • @applecake122
    @applecake122 13 років тому +2

    Wenn nur die Aufnahme etwas besser wäre.

  • @Smaug1
    @Smaug1 12 років тому +2

    OK, I have to take back what I said in the other one. Koth was not as good as Moser in this piece. It REALLY takes a set of pipes to sing this one properly. What I wouldn't give to hear Aloysia Weber sing it...

  • @Jamesscalise
    @Jamesscalise 12 років тому

    i don't see why you think they're implying it wasn't supposed to sound angry

  • @alainflaux870
    @alainflaux870 4 роки тому

    LE MUST

  • @VolkmarKlemm
    @VolkmarKlemm 12 років тому

    good man (or lady). :-D

  • @ValerioLorenzoGiannella
    @ValerioLorenzoGiannella 11 років тому

    Sulla base di quali dati affermi ciò?

  • @Mandolino82
    @Mandolino82 12 років тому +1

    ma la migliore in questo ruolo è la serra...

  • @alucard4686
    @alucard4686  12 років тому

    che traduzioni?

  • @babydrane
    @babydrane 12 років тому +1

    I mean it's pretty good. Could rival Deutekom except Moser's top notes sound a lot tighter than Deutkom's whose Fs sounded like Cs.

  • @alucard4686
    @alucard4686  12 років тому

    ahah !

  • @PickBit
    @PickBit 11 років тому

    Provo ad azzardare... sulla base del fatto che questo signore è parente stretto di Beethoven...
    Purtroppo però dall'illustre antenato ha ereditato un solo carattere: la sordità

  • @realchicken7224
    @realchicken7224 11 років тому

    Se la sentisse Mozart si strapperebbe tutti i peli della parrucca dal disgusto.

    • @johnsarkissian5519
      @johnsarkissian5519 6 років тому +1

      RealChicken Ma tu sei matto! Oppure non capisci niente dell'arte teatrale. Un compositore non è sempre che voglia un canto preciso e bello. Questo non è il bel canto! Anche Verdi stesso fu arrabbiatissimo con l'impresario quando lui scelse "la più bella voce d'Italia" per cantare il ruolo della Lady Macbeth. Disse che per quel ruolo avrebbe preferito "la voce più brutta".

    • @alecvillavilla9978
      @alecvillavilla9978 5 років тому

      Quindi tu pensi che Mozart fosse un idiota in materia canto e musica(lità).

    • @Pachinanonim
      @Pachinanonim Рік тому +1

      Si mozart escuchara a Damrau se revolcaria de su tumba (y lo mismo con todos los cantantes modernos) . Edda Mosser es la única que hace justicia a este papel con Deutekom.

  • @margholtz
    @margholtz 12 років тому

    Great but no one gets those high notes like Mimi Coertse

    • @krowapaulinka4351
      @krowapaulinka4351 8 років тому +5

      Edda's high Fs are way more powerful than Mimi's...

  • @matistysk79
    @matistysk79 8 років тому +2

    Undeutliche Aussprache der Worte teilweise und sehr gehetzte Darbietung besonders in den hohen Tönen, deutet auf unzureichendes Stimmvolumen hin.

  • @Tkimba2
    @Tkimba2 3 роки тому

    Non mi piace.
    Poco legato.
    Poca agilità (le terzine cantate malissimo)
    Molte note urlate
    Direzione disastrosa.
    Bocciati ebtrambi.

    • @radames5855
      @radames5855 Рік тому +1

      Non mi sembra così male...certo ci sono interpretazioni più pulite,tipo l'italiana Serra...ma questa performance è fuori ogni canone e con una vocalità quasi spinta,il che non è altrettanto facile,come un leggero di coloratura!