Henry Ford's Contributions to Aviation History
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Henry Ford's Contributions to Aviation History - documentary from early years.
Music -Theater Organ Allen GW4 - "The Perfect Song" from the Amos n' Andy radio show. - Фільми й анімація
I appreciate you sharing this historic video. It gives some unique insight into one of the early pioneers of aviation.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for the positive comment!
Thank you for posting this. Henry Ford was a man who truly changed the world.
yes he was - and he and FORD MOTOR are the ONLY ones who changed the world as we know it even today
Excellent video, with the exception of the maudlin carnival organ background music...finally, dawned on me about 2/3rds of the way thru I gotta bail out...
A whole 2/3s of the way? Blazing?
@@toober1714 Yep! 1/3rd the way I took a break for a 'lefty' to get blazed! ;-)
The 2nd 1/3rd...well...I don't remember...
I really enjoyed the old film footage of Ford Aviation History... now to just deal with the organ music in my HEAD for the rest of my life...
You said it bro.Totally awesome apart from that f..n organ
Thank you for this highly informative, interesting and entertaining documentary which educates and informs the viewer of this fascinating time in Ford's aviation enterprise and of their groundbreaking developments in commercial aviation.
The narrator covered the topics really well, making the documentary a wealth of knowledge on the subject matter.
Felix Cat you are very welcome! I'm glad some folks enjoy this, found it on an old VHS from an estate. Organ music was already mixed in, wish that was editable.
Very much informative
Outstanding- fantastic vision and informative commentary - thanks for sharing I was going to comment on the music but others have done so already
Glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate the music comment, if I only could have edited the music somehow without losing the VoiceOver...
Thank you very much for posting this video. I've been an aviation buff since I was a kid and this historical footage was wonderful. Unlike other people's comments I'm not going to complain about the music. Good stuff, and thank you again.
Very glad you enjoyed the video, from one aviation buff to another - thanks!
THIS IS FANTASTIC! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS, AND ALL THE IMPORTANT FACTS THAT GO A LONG WAY IN EDUCATING OUR YOUTH. JUST ONE MORE REASON WHY, I'LL DIE A FORD GUY!!
Very good point on educating our youth, glad you enjoyed the film!
The Ford family have enjoyed being at the pointy end of the stick with most new things. Many thanks for posting this great video.
Very glad you enjoyed the video and posted a positive comment!
This video answered many questions for me, and I'm not just talking about the name of the background music. I came here while trying to find out why Henry Ford abandoned his "Flying flivver" and I found the answer in this video, along with the answer to some other questions I had. In the case of the flying flivver, I learned from this video that it was due to the death of the Ford's test pilot who was a personal friend. The other mystery that has always bugged me is why did the Ford Tri-Motor have a corrugated fuselage when the corrugations would have been much less aerodynamic than a smooth skin. That answer is also in this video-- In the case of the Tri-Motor's corrugated body, I learned from this video that the ridges made the metal stronger; allowing thinner metal to be used, and that made the aircraft lighter. This was one way the cloth used in earlier aircraft could be replaced with metal. This information started me on a train of thought, which answered other questions I had about the Tri-Motor. I reasoned that as the air speed of a Tri-Motor increases, drag from the ridges in the skin will also increase, until a point is reached where the benefit from weight savings due to the corrugations will be overcome by lift lost to an increase in drag from the corrugations. Apparently, the cruising speed of the Tri-Motor was so slow that the weight savings of the corrugated metal outweighed (no pun intended) the increased drag from the corrugated fuselage of the plane. From this line of thought, I arrived at the answer to my second question, which was, if corrugated aircraft skin is stronger then why was it abandoned. I concluded that the metal planes which succeeded the Tir-Motor didn't have have a corrugated skin, because they had a higher cruising speed, where aerodynamic drag from a corrugated skin became a bigger problem than the weight of the plane's fuselage. In other words, later planes didn't have a corrugated skin, because they flew faster. Which leads to the next question I had, which is, what technological breakthrough made the corrugations unnecessary. My assumption is that it was not one thing, but a combination of many things. My guess is, improved manufacturing processes, combined with lighter aluminum alloys, and the curved surfaces of more streamlined planes made non-corrugated aircraft panels stronger and this made the corrugated aircraft panels obsolete. It's also likely, that more powerful and efficient aircraft engines that were developed in the Thirties played a part in doing away with the corrugated fuselage, because weight became less critical with the introduction of more powerful engines. So, thanks again to Barden Aviation for posting this video which cleared up some questions I've been carrying around for many years. And, I found out the name of the Amos and Andy theme music to boot!
Have a look at the Boeing P-26, the Flying flivver you referred to looks like it. You have just put me on the chase for more on that little aeroplane.
@@grownjohnboy I'm glad to hear that the ford Flying Flivver has inspired you to research the Boeing p-26, but other than the fact that they were both small monoplanes made before WWII, I can't see how the two planes have much in common. The Ford Model 2A Flivver was a personal civilian aircraft that weighed 500 pounds, had a 36 HP engine, and a maximum speed of 90 MPH. By contrast, the Boeing P-26 "Peashooter" was an armed military aircraft that weighed 2,196 lbs, had a 500 HP engine, and a maximum speed of 234 MPH.
@@itisonlyadream The Flying Flivver in construction was very much the same as the future P-26. They were much different in size and performance but the cable and wire rigging monoplane were similar. That little aeroplane is quite a marvel to watch. I am building 3 P-26 models in 1/32 scale for the next commission and after seeing this video I would like to build such a model as the Flying Flivver.
Very interesting. Thank you for posting this. I love watching old aircraft, locomotives, cars, etc.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for the positive comment!
I really give Ford credit for having all these things in his life documented
Very good point! Would have been lost forever if he had not had the foresight to document-
Thank goodness the Kardashians are doing the same.
He was amazing man. He build 3 barns on In Washtenaw county Michigan and the one barn is big as a football field. The land is still owned by Ford family.
🤔 take notes documents your adventures
Although the Ju 52 trimotor had a low wing it is amazing that, some years apart, both airplanes looked so similar to each other.
Very true!
Beside the Fokker tri-motors in 1926/1927, Junkers also had its G 24 tri-motor all metal passenger plane flying in 1925 and enetering service with Deutsche Luft Hansa in 1926, and by ABA Swedish Air Lines on May 15, 1925, which became the world's first operator of 3 engined all metal passenger airplanes.
you were amazing Henry Ford! Love you, your history and all things Ford!
You are listening that era movie theater music. No talkies yet.
Outstanding video
Thank you!
Incredible. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm sure I've heard this music before at a funeral home.
Wayne D Haha, I was thinking the same thing.
@@6h471 There is some resemblance regarding a J.Bond scene "Diamonds are forever" when a funeral is going to happen accompanied by this erotic music
I was thinking baseball stadium
Standard silent film music.
Every theater used to have piano or organ players.
Well every adult from back then is in a grave, so I guess it’s fitting. Did you expect heavy metal?
Got the radio soap opera organ music going ;D
More organ music than a Bella Lugosi movie
Now, that's funny.
Cool Vid but the organ music gave Elvis ear PTSD (Elvis looking in his toy box for his roller skates)
LOL too funny man
This is a really great clip.
Thanks for the positive comment, glad you enjoyed it!
The Organist must've had to play this for punishment or our our punishment.
tom dorn lol could be!
Funeral music is appropriate for a video about early aviation.
I like to think that Henry and Edsel enjoyed this together as father and son.
beautiful documentary, loved the soundtrack!! :)
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Great video the music reminds me of being in church
It reminds me of being at any large baseball stadium.
The overuse of "A Perfect Song" was unfortunate.
Whats the name of the song?
Thank you for sharing, very interesting information!
You are very welcome! It was a rare find in a basement, all I did was digitize it and put it up here...
When I go to church and the organ starts playing, I have to go outside and take a walk around the block.
I'll scream if I hear that theme one more time!, otherwise, a great vid.
Excellent documentary.
OMG. No wonder an entire generation grew-up hating organ music.
I nominate HRC as official engine starter! 😳😏😅😜
Jeff Lovejoy: right you are...it is the most hateful instrument in the history of music-instruments.
F the music did you learn anything?
I will never listen to another organ for the rest of my life. We need more detailed information on the planes, top speed, how much gas did it hold, range, load capacity ect..
LOL too funny - but yes, details would be great!
Cool video! I always go see the EAA tri-motor when it comes to town. As for the obligatory music comment... I don't mind the fact it's organ music but I did keep expecting The Kingfish to pitch his newest scam to Amos and Andy.
Thank you! Glad to hear, see history in person while it is still around. Appreciate the positive comment!
Great clip - thanks for posting
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Fokker and Junkers Trimotors predated Ford’s. The Ford Trimotor using all-metal construction was not a revolutionary concept, but it was certainly more advanced than the standard construction techniques of the 1920s. The aircraft resembled the Fokker F.VII Trimotor (except for being all-metal which Henry Ford claimed made it "the safest airliner around"). Its fuselage and wings followed a design pioneered by Junkers during World War I with the Junkers J.I and used postwar in a series of airliners starting with the Junkers F.13 low-wing monoplane of 1920 of which a number were exported to the US, the Junkers K 16 high-wing airliner of 1921, and the Junkers G 24 trimotor of 1924. All of these were constructed of aluminum alloy, which was corrugated for added stiffness, although the resulting drag reduced its overall performance. So similar were the designs that Junkers sued and won when Ford attempted to export an aircraft to Europe. In 1930, Ford countersued in Prague, and despite the possibility of anti-German sentiment, was decisively defeated a second time, with the court finding that Ford had infringed upon Junkers' patents.
Mike Fisher changes nothing I said bro!
I had a chance to fly in a Ford Tri-motor at Oshkosh. Not the most comfortable but it was an interesting flight.
That's awesome! A piece of History for sure!
Alfred Enisz ....yer and I bet you didn’t have funeral organ music to put up with at the same time....!!
A fascinating film and the narration was very informative. Everyone is bitching about the organ music, but I have fond memories of that piece of music from my childhood, back in the nineteen forties. So, I'd like thank the film's producer for using that music, although adding a little variety would have been better. That music is so familiar, but I can't recall the name and that's driving me nuts. It seems like it may have been the organ music used on a popular radio soap opera from that era, but I can't recall which one. In any case, the music probably pre-dates the soap opera. Will someone please tell me what that music is called before my head explodes? Also, several reasons were given by the narrator for why Henry Ford got out of the airplane business. The reason I heard when I was a kid was that it was due the Wiley Post crash that killed both Post and Will Rogers. According to the story, Post and Ford were good friends. Ford had lost other friends in plane crashes and the death of Post was the last straw, so Ford decide to get out of the aircraft business. Maybe that's only a rumor, because Post wasn't flying a Ford Plane, but for more than sixty years I've believed it was the Post crash that caused Henry Ford to get out of aviation. I learned a lot from this video and the reasons given by the narrator make more sense than the story I heard all those years ago.
Very glad you enjoyed the video, I am unsure of the music source, hopefully someone knows and will let us know!
From other comments - The song is also called "The Perfect Song" in the credits at the end of each Amos & Andy episode. Or also possibly called "Angels Serenade"...
@@bardenaviation Many thanks to you and to the man (or men) who knew the name of the song and shared it with us. I undoubtedly remember hearing the song on the radio at the beginning and end of the Amos and Andy show, and also later when the radio show moved to TV. You got to me just in time, right before my head exploded from hearing that song running in my brain on an endless loop. I kept thinking I'd eventually come up with the name of the song if I thought about it long enough. But, I never would have remembered the name, because I never knew the name of the song until today, thanks to you and your video. It only took me seventy years to learn the name of that song. I'm amazed that after my comment people continued to complain about your background music. Don't they bother to read the hundreds of negative comments that have already been made about the music before they add another negative comment? I have to admit that a couple of the negative comments were funny, but it's too bad that your interesting video has been overshadowed by the reaction to the background music. I'll bet that's something you never expected. I have a website where I sell a little gadget I invented and for background music I used the theme song from the old Hal Roach Our Gang comedies. Younger people will remember the music from decades later when the Our Gang comedies were syndicated for TV and renamed The Little Rascals. If you had used that as your background music, then I'll bet you'd have received nothing but positive comments about the music, because everybody has fond childhood memories of watching those old Our Gang comedies (AKA The Little Rascals).
Very cool film!!!
Thanks for watching and for the positive comment!
The organ music would be period appropriate for a news reel of this type. It is clever, an historic touch. In everything I've read, Henry was tyrannical to Edsel; deliberately sabotaging many of his innovations. It is most interesting to hear that Henry gave the credit to Edsel for
the success of the aviation experiment. Also, the body language does not indicate any hostility on either party. Edsel looks rather fit and
dapper. Good show.
I read that Edsel had been sick for a long time because his father insisted he drink unpasteurized milk and he contracted a disease from the milk that eventually gave him the stomach cancer that killed him.
@@blackbirdpie217 Ouch, that's a rough way to go. I think maybe I am outvoted on the organ music- maybe listening too much to that stuff brought him down!
more than 40 minutes of monotonous, nerve jagging Hammond Organ Music is a bit much for twenty-first centuries ears. About 20000 commentators are da'ccord with me.
Entièrement d'accord avec ce fait.
Apparently, Your CLOSED mind has NO CONCEPT of what a silent motion picture had for sound...this is an awesome offering...open your eyes...shut up and LISTEN....eventually, the Hamond B3 organ produced some awesome music....Technology takes time....and this guy is sharing when airplanes, and electric organs were in diapers...
Rimmer would love this red dwarf
How silent were those movies in the late 20s, 30s, 40s ???
I agree I found the organ music to be a bit distracting after a bit. I get what the content creator was going for with it and perhaps if it wasn't as loud it wouldn't have been too distracting.
Not the bigest fan of fords new stuff but they built a lot of realy good stuf their tractors were the best
i understand the organ music...when you went to see a movie in the 1920's before sound films, the big theatres usually had a wurlitzer organ with an organist playing along with the movie. Its more of a purist thing and i see how most people find it annoying. Maybe a bit of organ music and some low key instrumental the rest of the time would work. Great video BTW!
Thank you very much! I do wish I could have done something with the music, but it was blended in before I got a hold of it. Thanks for understanding!
AMAZING MAN AND THEIR FLYING MACHINES
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LOL there's a bit of history ;-)
I love you Henryford
Sgt Joe Friday gives the facts about Ford aviation - in a roller rink. Good stuff
Just the facts mame just the facts. The fact is I had to bail on this video.
a friend of mine who is a former ford employee who worked at the old freemont plant remembered when ford would ship car engines out to califronia on dc 9s because the donner pass was blocked by snow and ice . saved them production time .@ 2:33 a smart looking ship.
That's very cool, did not know that. Thanks for sharing some history!
Yikes, that damn music during the whole documentary. Holy crap.
Wish there was a way to digitally split that out of the audio. Sorry!
Bellissimo documentario, molte grazie.
Would hace been a good documentation if you had used enough organ music...with this little organ music i can't take it serious
Typical Modern-Day American...or not.
They could have added some cow bell just to make this a little more interesting.
You'd have never Survived the Early 60's B&W Television... Wurlitzer Rules! Organ Harvesting for All!!!
That's a window into the Country that once was and some of us are fighting to keep.
Idiot, 80% ford employees were immigrants fresh off the boat DURING this time. America is and forever will BE indebted to those who left their homelands behind ! Amen ! You are fighting and praying to take america back to the time of slavery and robert e lee. The confederacy is in the ash heaps of history just like Fascism and Nazism!
Old Henry was also an anti semite, provided money and equipment to the Nazis leading up to the WW2 and would fire your ass for drinking alcohol or smoking in your own home.
If that's what you want, your the problem in this world.
@@Lobo-Lobo Snowflake trigger alert!
@@damienmccormack2789 Nope, you snowflakes are destroying our country right now with your stupid political correctness.
@@Lobo-Lobo Yes, and these immigrants were here legally.
wonderful film but man oh man that music.
Even a flying wing design as well as all metal monoplanes great achievements for that time.
German design by Ford.
The Hammond Organ was an American invention. The B3 is wonderful when used judiciously with other instruments. The Church Organ helped create the great divide between older and younger people. Some churches still have not learned that most young people hate the organ. Episcopal/Anglican churches still have, for the most part, not learned this important lesson. It's pretty tough finding a praise band in an Episcopal/Anglican church. They would rather see their churches die than try different music.
Very insightful! You have a great point, well stated.
Hey waaaaaait a minute - the organ music was picked by the narrator with the monotone voice, wasn't it...betcha dollars to doughnuts!
I dont mind the organ . Actually, it kind of reminds me of Bioshock Infinite with the vigors =D
The Ford Airport became the Ford test track and was the yearly venue of a great annual model plane meet.
That is very cool history!
The use of the Amos & Andy radio theme was charming to a point, but I would have switched to the Lindberg song at one point, and maybe the ever corny Flying machine song, but it got a little tire some at the end, kept expecting to see Andy and the Kingfish to make an appearance!
Great video! Many thanks!!!!
Napalm v8 Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for the feedback!
Interesting....but that organ music is mind numbing.
Its the theme song to the old Amos n Andy radio show.
some information given in this video are wrong.
the Ford Trimotor had two more all metal airliners competitors in the 3 engine design: Junkers G24 and Junkers G31.
You are right: the Fokker was was a composite design.
Very good clarification, thank you for that!
Bill Stout was hired as the technical adviser for our Illinois Model Aero club in 1911.
That is very cool, I bet he had a lot of great guidance and stories!
Fantastic! Thank you.
Very welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
I liked the historical information but the organ music was tiresome - othewise, very good
Appreciate the feedback, thanks!
@@bardenaviation I think the organ music was fine.....sure beats most of the non-melodious stuff put out today.......
That was the music they had back then.
I found the organ music annoying also. It was more suitable for a circus or old time cinema.
I like the music. It's period, its graceful. I've seen some early French aircraft film with graceful, beautiful music as opposed to the racy adventurous dare devil variety usually making sound tracks. Its nice to relax and fly. Look out the widow, in perfect safety... ;)
The organ is a bit droning after a while, but early in the film I appreciated it because prior to about 1928 all movies were without sound of their own and every theater around America had an organ and organist to give audio spirit to the film. But the music would adapt to the scenes appropriately. That is, the music would follow the story.. excited, spirited, angry or moody.. But I can tell that is real pipe organ just too much of the same. Unless you have your own organist I guess you're stuck with what you can find.
Original doco(?) but a bit too funereal for me. Can't imagine how customers of the era would have taken it. Kinda ominous without a guitar in there.
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing
You are welcome! Glad you liked it!
Awesome the Pioneers indeed , we can ad also Howard Hugues. thanks for posting
Absolutely! Glad you enjoyed the film.
Had to chuckle at all the complaints about the organ music. Bunch of wimps who can't tolerate a wee bit if inconvenience. Hope you guys never get in a really tough situation, you're likely to die of shock.
Now that's the best comment on the music so far! Love it, thanks!
Excellent job (except for the organ music).
Great history....I like the timely music, though it could have been a little more diverse.
Nice video!
200 foot high crushed stone letters?
That's an Aviation Hazard!
Boy has his Dimensions Messed Up.
lol
Couldn't handle the funeral music.
That Stout five-passenger plane that didn't fly well looked pretty nice to me. Too bad they couldn't have refined it to get a more stable plane.
I liked the video but the monotony of the organ drove me to stop mid way.
makes one wonder which came first the Ju-52 or the Ford Tri-Motor...they resemble each other big time....btw the organ music was how movies where shown in those days....reminds me of the soap operas of the 50's&`60's...John...Marsha....John...Marsha days.
How about next time you do a documentary about organ music with a few old planes flying around!
LOL good call
Sounds like an old roller rink.
Why do I have this strange want for a hotdog, pretzel, and a beer!!! Play Ball!!!!
Never new Ford's was into Airplane, No breaks🙄 you would think that corrugated steel would created Wind resistant.
The 3AT looked a lot like one version of the Farman Jibaru.
Good point, it does!
Check into Eddie Rickenbacker's ww2 Pacific survival trial and tribulation
I think that was the Detroit river. The rouge wasn’t that wide .
Narrator sounds like a middle-aged Charlie Brown.
Can anyone provide here the dimensions for a Ford Tri motor passenger door? The width and height in inches please? I want to build up a replica for my office wall. Thank you!
Next time I am in around one I'll get measurements for you and photos-
@@bardenaviation , oh that would be great! The width is really what I need, as I can do some math and come up close enough with the rest of it. Best Regards!
3:32 Pilot looks like WW 1 U.S. ace Eddie Rickenbacker. Must have been an inaugural flight to attract such a high ranking celeb., but that would be a piece of cake for Ford!!
Looks like you are correct, how cool!
Horroratio Neilsen No kidding, Eddie Rickenbacker. My parents first went up in an airplane piloted by him at an Akron, Ohio, airshow. My father thought it would quiet my mother's fears to be told Rickenbacker would be the pilot but as she had never heard of him, it didn't do the trick. They had a big fight over her not wanting to fly, but they made up and had a memorable experience, what with the flight and my mother's wool dress shrinking to a mini in a cloudburst, to her future parents-in-law's amusement and sympathy. Everyone was air-minded in Akron and my father had, until he lost it, a Duraluminum comb souvenir of the dirigible he saw there. My father and his father never gave up their interest in flight, and were thrilled with each new advance.
It sounds like Stout did NOT have a good eye for designing planes. They did NOT handle well.
Henry Ford was the right man at the right time. He build affordable cars which allowed him to be in the position to build B-24's for the WW2 effort. If he had not been successful, that factory might not have been there.
Hey what is the composers of the organ music. I love it!!
"The Perfect Song", by Joseph Carl Breil.
why would any fool be bothered by background organ music when so much info was imparted??????
great thank you
You are welcome, thanks for the positive comment!
Thumbs Up if you've ridden in a Tri-Motor!
I've flown on Stinson, Ford and Bushmaster tri-motors (all at Oshkosh through the years) not to mention countless flights on Boeing 727s, Lockheed L-1011s and Douglas DC-10s.
Very interesting thank you.
You are welcome, it is interesting for sure!
@@bardenaviation I shared it on facebook.
kennedy singh Great! Glad to hear that!
Excellent informative doco. A pity about the choice of dreary organ music on the sound track. Other wise well put together, thank you
Thank you, I do wish I could have scrubbed that music, but was not able with my current setup.
Henry Ford lost his best friend in AIR CRASH IN IS AIRPLANE WAS KILLED .
Sad but true-
This was awesome. Except the music. That person that chose the audio need retire.
LOL that's funny, agreed!
Funeral parlor music and aviation don't mix.
Ah, Henry Ford. Visionary industrialist, singular captain of industry, monumental creep.
LOL, very true
Great video but it needed some organ music.😎