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  • @ColtonMyers1
    @ColtonMyers1 Рік тому +27

    Nintendo has made it pretty clear that ToK will tie into SS - their expression that fans play SS in advance was pretty indicative that SS will be more important than TP or any other game.

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +6

      Very true! The final memory containing the Fi noise from SS (in addition to all the other stuff about the "voice in the sword") should be ample enough evidence that SS is the direct tie-in here. However spend any length of time in the social spheres/online Zelda community and you'll see droves and droves of mostly disillusioned TP Fans who have vehemently been trying to tie elements from it to TOTK due to it's """darker""" approach. Case in Point why we made this video as a efficient and organized way of debunking those thought processes to save people some embarrassment and disappointment.
      - Andy

    • @javiervasquez625
      @javiervasquez625 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ratedn I should point out that according to the Hyrule Historia book the so called "Shadow Mirror" from Four Sword Adventures was used to "banish an ancient tribe who once attacked Hyrule long ago" AFTER Midna shattered the Mirror of Twilight in the Child Timeline where Four Sword Adventures *takes place.* The fact that such a SEPERATE mirror used for the banishment of tribes STILL EXISTS in the *Child* Timeline leaves open the possibility for other Mirrors of Twilight to exist "somewhere" out there in the Zelda world. I don't know about you but i'm still fairly open to possibility that the Twili (not Midna) will appear in Tears of the Kingdom precisely because of the existence of other mirror "gateways" such as the previously mentioned Shadow Mirror and the ironically named "Magic Mirror" from A Link to the Past.
      You guys assume that the shattering of a single mirror by a mortal member of a banished tribe somehow means permanent severing between the Light World and Twilight Realm but seeing as it was the omnipotent Golden Goddesses's decision to banish the Interlopers into such a realm in the first place that means they could just as easily either create or allow another such mirror to appear so that Midna's descendants may be given the opportunity to leave the Twilight Realm and bask in the Light of the Light World.

    • @ColtonMyers1
      @ColtonMyers1 Рік тому +3

      @@javiervasquez625 I didn’t ever say there wasn’t a possibility of seeing the Twili appear again - I only reiterated what Nintendo has stated and inferred, which is that Skyward Sword clearly ties into Tears of the Kingdom.

    • @javiervasquez625
      @javiervasquez625 Рік тому +1

      @@ColtonMyers1 Very well then my apologies for misunderstanding your comment and rambling out of subject. I agree with your comment.

    • @GANONdork123
      @GANONdork123 Рік тому +1

      Nintendo also said the same thing about Breath of the Wild tying into Twilight Princess, and that was a load of bunk. It was just marketing to get people to buy the remaster, and I imagine it's a similar situation here. "You're excited for our new Zelda game? You should buy this $60 remaster of an old one in the same series! There might be some clues that tie into the new game you're excited for maybe not really"

  • @researchinbreeder
    @researchinbreeder Рік тому +7

    Tbh the only thing I really consider a connection point is that the architecture and placement of the bridge of Lake Hylia are clearly drawn from TP. But even then, that was probably done in reference to the Bridge of Eldin without actually being anything more significant.

  • @antonywithnoh2923
    @antonywithnoh2923 Рік тому +10

    I haven't really seen any evidence of Midna's return, but my theory is that Fi is back and will have a role in restoring the Master Sword. (I have a video about it if anyone is interested)

  • @barneyjarneyson6409
    @barneyjarneyson6409 Рік тому +34

    honestly wasnt onboard at first but you have THOROUGHLY convinced me that Groose is the guy in the mural

    • @hiimbobbyo631
      @hiimbobbyo631 Рік тому

      Except he’s not lmao. It’s an ancient zonai hero

  • @violetadams4428
    @violetadams4428 Рік тому +6

    I think you are absolutely right. It would be kool to see Midna again though. Even though it would make no sense at all.

  • @sethfeldpausch4337
    @sethfeldpausch4337 Рік тому +10

    The only way bringing back the Twili people could make sense is if they were revealed to be the same race as the Zonai, as the Zonai clearly will play a major role in TOTK. There's some really convincing theories that speculate that they are the same tribe, but otherwise, I will be perfectly happy with whatever they decide to do!

    • @Galvvy
      @Galvvy Рік тому +1

      Well the interlopers did come from Hyrule and ended up banished, no reason they can't come back besides the mirror, which could have been reconstructed in theory on the Hyrule side. However I'm hesitant to assume that's the case. If the Zonai do end up just being some random tribe of literal who's who took over the sky I would be pretty disappointed though.

    • @ikeaira8701
      @ikeaira8701 Рік тому

      still haven't beaten TotK so bare with me, but I have a feeling with TotK/BotW Hyrule we'll see another sequel that may introduce the Twilight Realm as that's the place where the rest of the Zonai went to while Rauru & Mineru stayed behind to live with the Hylians, Gerudo, Zora, Rito, and Gorons. Good examples are Midna and Zants Helmets(more specifically Midna's and her completed Helmet) look very similar to the Zonai's in design. Depending on how TotK ends and if there's any hints(don't give me the Chasm is supposed to represent the Twilight Realm, cause that's bs. The Chasm is just what use to be the Surface long long ago, and is used as a Cosmetic/Amiibo dump mostly). So my thoughts are simply: The Twilight Realm is coming in the next Sequel.

  • @myWeirdNerdyNeighbor
    @myWeirdNerdyNeighbor Рік тому +6

    I really hope your channel takes off! 😄🤩

  • @10k-Noodles
    @10k-Noodles Рік тому +9

    To me it feels more like Fi would make a return than anyone else. But Midna is peak companion. She's not annoying as hell. That's all it takes to be peak companion in Zelda. Not only that. But she had me worried about her and racing to save her. I ain't doing that for Fi, Navi, or King of Red Lions. They can rot.

    • @seanbaritone
      @seanbaritone Рік тому

      I got to that part and I was literally WHITE!

    • @MegaVirus700
      @MegaVirus700 Рік тому +3

      Take back that King of Red Lions slander. Which companion could you mount a canon to? That's right, only the King

    • @10k-Noodles
      @10k-Noodles Рік тому +1

      @@MegaVirus700 You do make a compelling point. But Midna helped me cross large distances instantly with the press of a button. Whereas he helped us cross long distances over the course of an hour.

  • @dustycadet1589
    @dustycadet1589 Рік тому +16

    I simp the imp.

  • @Kyleneedsalife
    @Kyleneedsalife Рік тому +6

    Btw there is no way that link would turn into the wolf because he’s the link of the wild only the link of twilight will turn into the wolf because he’s the one who got cursed also the link of twilights curse does not exist because he can change in between wolf and human

  • @gpt6
    @gpt6 Рік тому +10

    I heard all sorts of theories about TOTK, but I never heard, that anyone believes Midna or the twilight realm come back.
    I think, there is no chance it will. Not just because of the points you mention in the video, but just because, that's not how Zelda games are crafted. The development of Zelda games always starts with a specific gameplay mechanic, not with the story or characters:
    OOT: First 3D Game
    MM: 3 Day cycle & transformation (masks)
    WW: Open world (first try -> Nintendo said themselves, that it only took place on islands to make an open world possible at that time)
    TP: This is literally the only game, that does not 100% apply, but I'll get to that in a minute :D
    SS: Motion control
    BOTW: Actual/modern open world
    TOTK (Most likely): Crafting & Sandbox (Crafting weapons, vehicles, outfits and I expect, that you will be able to actually also change some things around in hyrule itself)
    Little side story for anyone who cares why TP doesn't apply to that rule:
    If you like TP or not, Nintendo said, that they actually never wanted to make TP and they didn't like it. It's a game specifically done like a game from and for the western market without the usual development cycle, because Zelda never sold that well in Japan and the flop, that WW was in the west, nearly killed the entire franchise. Don't get me wrong, I love WW and TP, but that are just facts you can look up.
    So, in order to revive Zelda in the western market, they just gave the western audience what they wanted, instead of focussing on a new gameplay mechanic and doing something new:
    - It has a lot of similarities to OOT by design
    - The Twilight world is also not really a new mechanic, but one, that was proven to work in ALTTP (dark world)
    - The transformation was also successfully done before in MM
    - And people wanted it to be darker (which is not a gameplay mechanic)
    You can actually see this, if you ask yourself which 3D Zelda is the odd one. You could think of any of them (not counting OOT, because it's the first) and see why they are the odd one, except of TP and actually make TP the odd one. They are all about taking your expectations and throwing them as far away as they can.
    - MM: Crazy sinister & depressing right after OOT, like whaaat?
    - WW: Toon style all of a sudden after MM and a huge ocean with islands?
    - SS: Takes a completely different focus with its motions controls and linear gameplay
    - BOTW: I guess that's obvious
    But TP literally feels like what you would expect.

  • @eileensmiller8041
    @eileensmiller8041 Рік тому +1

    The only theory I've ever had was that the Zoni were embassies of the Goddess of Courage at a time when there was no hero

  • @Vapecatlol
    @Vapecatlol Рік тому +6

    I thought the sounds reminded me more of fi than anything .

  • @companyoflosers
    @companyoflosers Рік тому +8

    twilight princess was my favorite game... but I think people are getting way too damn desperate to see the twili make a re-appearance. give it up guys. they will come back when Nintendo wants them to come back, and it wont require this level of speculation and grasping at straws to notice.

    • @wolfyashysadness5117
      @wolfyashysadness5117 Рік тому

      *Good talk. I'll be so glad he's back, or even a new story, who knows what the future holds? Heh*

  • @steelphoenix8978
    @steelphoenix8978 Рік тому +8

    tp was my 1st and is my fav zelda, botw might topple it im still undecided, i would think fi would have more likely hood of making an appearance than midna. my thought is the voice is prolly just whoever the hand is that grabs link.

  • @hintonempire1178
    @hintonempire1178 Рік тому +9

    That Twili moan had me rolling 🤣

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +1

      There’s more where that came from 😂

    • @seanbaritone
      @seanbaritone Рік тому +1

      OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @unLokii-
    @unLokii- Рік тому +5

    I think maybe they could come back but not in totk. There’s already so much going on in TOTK and they wouldn’t wanna take away focus from that. I would love to see Midna again and this time we save her instead of Zelda. Honestly, with all the talk about the cycle of hatred being broken in totk, I’d that does happen I feel like the hero will still reincarnate, just not Ganon or Zelda for it will now just be Links adventures. And maybe in some game in the future, instead of saving Zelda we might save Midna for some reason

    • @gergomi7289
      @gergomi7289 Рік тому

      Spoilers much?!? 😹

    • @youropinionsareshitandsoar1954
      @youropinionsareshitandsoar1954 Рік тому

      It could be a cool spin-off game a break from the breath of the wild series. I wouldn't mind if they did a remaster of Majora's mask either tbh.

    • @DarkLordTalon
      @DarkLordTalon Рік тому

      You're forgetting one major thing here. We will never get Midna again at least in a continuing forward in time, timeline. Its been Over 10,000 years since TP. The Twili obviously do age and have generations. Midna would be Looooooong since dead and dust.

  • @julien6871
    @julien6871 Рік тому +5

    Yea nah The Twilight won't be returning in TOTK and I have legitimate proof

    • @davidrooker5141
      @davidrooker5141 Рік тому +1

      let's see it thin

    • @julien6871
      @julien6871 Рік тому

      @@davidrooker5141 the magic is referred to as “Zonai” in nature and actually acts as power sources instead of soul energy

  • @connermontee317
    @connermontee317 Рік тому +3

    How does this channel only have 45 subs?

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +2

      Asking the real questions

  • @ratedn
    @ratedn  Рік тому +11

    Stick to the very end for something cool.
    Go watch our most recent video to learn how to win a copy of Tears of the Kingdom!: ua-cam.com/video/yrYXhn5yA8A/v-deo.html

    • @javiervasquez625
      @javiervasquez625 Рік тому

      Thank the goddesses there is no traffic police in Hyrule otherwise Link would get arrested for reckless driving and Ganondorf would be able to conquer the World unopposed.

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +1

      @@javiervasquez625 we have cars now in TotK… You know what that means

    • @gergomi7289
      @gergomi7289 Рік тому

      More fun vids with various sound effects ✌️👻.

  • @projectdeadhand4413
    @projectdeadhand4413 Рік тому +4

    Certified Banger

  • @avatarkyoshi3405
    @avatarkyoshi3405 Рік тому +5

    Please Midna come back!

  • @wizcatcheslightning
    @wizcatcheslightning Рік тому

    “Haphazardly throwing points together because they fit your narrative is dangerous” I’m paraphrasing here, but nice statement!

  • @uhhcallmejefe
    @uhhcallmejefe Рік тому +4

    Ok

  • @AlucardTheRedeemed
    @AlucardTheRedeemed Рік тому +1

    Maybe the next one will bring them back to meet with the new furry species. Heck maybe we'll even see the Subrosians come back. 😂

  • @SIx1YaDone
    @SIx1YaDone Рік тому +2

    But.. but.. what about the Twilight Princess Link Amiibo releasing alongside ToTK?

    • @SIx1YaDone
      @SIx1YaDone Рік тому

      @Vickiraytive Games it’s a GameStop exclusive that releases on the 12th of May.

    • @SIx1YaDone
      @SIx1YaDone Рік тому

      @Vickiraytive Games it’s advertised as “The Legend of Zelda Link Twilight Princess amiibo”

    • @SIx1YaDone
      @SIx1YaDone Рік тому

      @Vickiraytive Games I would love that very much to be the case! I was thinking that it might have had something to do with Midna or the Twili making a return in ToTK

  • @kieranturner9014
    @kieranturner9014 Рік тому +1

    Ah yes the good old "this reminds me of this thing" but it still doesn't exist. Good argument there 😂

  • @Repyhebuc
    @Repyhebuc Рік тому +1

    TOTK will work just fine even without involving the Twili and their story, though they can develop them in future titles.

  • @wolfyashysadness5117
    @wolfyashysadness5117 Рік тому +2

    *Well, I wouldn't play this game then.*
    *I like TP, I like wolves, I like Twilian's race, I like Shadows, and Midna IS not my favorite, Zant is*

  • @Thenewbagman
    @Thenewbagman Рік тому

    Hopefully they will kept Twilight Princess away forever.

  • @davidrooker5141
    @davidrooker5141 Рік тому +2

    what about hyrule warriors midna is in that game

    • @hintonempire1178
      @hintonempire1178 Рік тому +2

      Hyrule Warriors is not a Zelda game; Its a non-canon Warriors game.

  • @gergomi7289
    @gergomi7289 Рік тому +1

    Nope.

  • @OmniSolaris
    @OmniSolaris Рік тому

    ⚡ Midnå Twilight Leygate ⚡

  • @yuseifudogamer4717
    @yuseifudogamer4717 Рік тому +6

    6:34 the Mirror was only destroyed in ONE TIMELINE. Breath Of The Wild is at the end of ALL timelines. You're trying to deny the likelihood that, by a majority rule, the Mirror could've been allowed to exist in this world. At least do your research. This is the most annoying "counter-argument" from people who try to argue against it. At least Acknowledge that it wasn't destroyed in the other timelines, and don't try to say it was destroyed in the Adult timeline via Wind Waker, because only those with the blood of interlopers can canonically destroy the mirror

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +7

      Unless you can provide evidence that the mirror does in fact exist in other timelines via information within the games, then no, that’s only an assumption that it exists in other timelines. You can ignore all other points, like you did, but you’ll be failing to see the true nature of what’s going on. Truth of the matter is, we don’t know when the interloper war took place, sure you can look at Hyrule Historia for example for some answers, but it won’t give you a logical conclusion, one with evidence backed behind it that is. And before you say Hyrule Historia is canon this canon that, the book tells us that it’s up to the player’s imagination and things can change with new information. Where is the new information that the Twili are coming back and that they exist in other games? Again please provide evidence and information within the games themselves. - Anthony

    • @yuseifudogamer4717
      @yuseifudogamer4717 Рік тому +5

      @ratedn it is absolutely canon that the banishment of the interlopers occurred long before even Ocarina Of Time. This is backed up by the story the sacred spirit tells Link before he sets out for the Lakebed temple. Not to mention that Ganondorf's banishment to the Twilight Realm was a result of the great war that occurs in the child timeline after the Hero Of Time goes back to the child timeline and successfully warns the king of Ganondorf's plot.
      While yes, certain aspects of the timeline are subject to change, the banishment of the interlopers is actually confirmed to take place thousands of years before Twilight Princess, and in turn before Ocarina Of Time.
      So yes, it exists across all timelines.

    • @hintonempire1178
      @hintonempire1178 Рік тому +1

      @@yuseifudogamer4717 You mean to say "existED across all timelines", don't you? It is not accurate to say that the Mirror of Twilight exists in a current tense in all timelines, as we know for a fact that it is gone in both the CT and the AT.
      CT because of Midna's farewell, and AT because of Daphnes' Triforce wish to wash away or 'erase' the ancient land of Hyrule.

    • @yuseifudogamer4717
      @yuseifudogamer4717 Рік тому

      @hintonempire1178 only those with the blood of the interlopers can completely destroy the Mirror. NOT even Ganondorf's power, utilizing the Triforce of power, was able to completely destroy it.
      You are lying to yourself if you say the Mirror was destroyed in the Adult Timeline. No it wasn't, stop lying.

    • @yuseifudogamer4717
      @yuseifudogamer4717 Рік тому

      Also, I ALREADY debunked that in the previous statement. Learn to read

  • @overdrive112
    @overdrive112 Рік тому

    Test

  • @melodymeh7934
    @melodymeh7934 Рік тому

    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @DanielMazahreh
    @DanielMazahreh Рік тому +9

    Twilight Princess was one of the worst 3D Zelda games alongside Skyward Sword. I actually find Midna completely overrated, poorly written, and more annoying than Navi. Twilight Princess is basically when the Zelda community develops a Zelda game. It’s so cringe.

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +9

      I like the difference in opinion. And I definitely see your point! (this is Anthony (blue joycon)) although I do disagree with what you said, I say TP suffers from a lot of cliche writing techniques that often leave it feeling dry at points for sure

    • @zmija3846
      @zmija3846 Рік тому +5

      On a base level I enjoy the game especially for it's music and dungeon designs (It's probably only #3 or #4 on my favorite Zeldas though) but the TP circlejerkers are the worst thing to ever be birthed of the Zelda community. This video was essentially a indirect response to all the Midna copium huffers we've been seeing on Twitter for months

    • @kellerglee
      @kellerglee Рік тому +3

      OH hello rain-wall-climbing Daniel, didn't expect to see you again! Thanks for your help again haha

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +4

      @@user-hy6hw1bk3n MM based.

    • @DanielMazahreh
      @DanielMazahreh Рік тому +4

      @@kellerglee It is my pleasure! =) So nice that we bumped into each other. Small world.

  • @windchange711
    @windchange711 Рік тому +3

    Why the curse words and foul language in a video game commentary? You do realize children often end up on their way here, looking for Zelda coverage.

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +11

      Well, firstly, all of the swearing (to my current recollection) was bleeped or comedically cut-off.
      Our analytics show the 25-34 age range being
      our #1 age demographic (over 30%) with 18-24 being the second largest. Less than 3% of people who have seen **any** of the videos on our channel are under 18 according to the information we receive from UA-cam.
      In conjunction to this, we have signaled our channel and each individual video as "Not Made for Kids". As far as we know understand, it will not be pushed into the algorithm for anyone who UA-cam deems as an underage account.
      Regardless of all of this, we do produce videos in a more serious, lore-perspective manner, which can be seen in the video that was uploaded after this one. This was our first Zelda video on our channel and we are constantly changing and tweaking our content as we are still very fresh on the scene.

  • @vaiyt
    @vaiyt Рік тому +1

    Your pet character ain't coming back, that's not how Zelda games work or ever worked. Lay off the copium.

    • @ratedn
      @ratedn  Рік тому +5

      You didn’t watch the video lol

  • @js100serch
    @js100serch Рік тому +1

    MIDna