Niki and Donna are the perfect guests! Honest, real, empathetic, talkative, gracious, relatable-and with that rare insider’s view of someone so legendary.
Madonna has always been my idol I saw her several years ago I cried as soon as she came on stage .. she always made you feel like it was OK to be different I loved her music her style and her evolution.. love these guests ..
Wow thank you so much ladies for coming to Madonna’s defence! Indeed she has contributed so much to humanity and equality recognition over the decades it is crazy to see her being criticised unnecessarily just because we have this thing called social media. I agree Madonna is all about positivity and strength. I sure hope she saw this interview herself coz you are just so on point. She is iconic performer and personality. You ladies are incredible Donna and Nikki! This is great interview
The gay community is eternally grateful to MADONNA and also these 2 ladies that uplifted all that MADONNA did with her work. As far as Im concerned, there will never ever be a trio with so much heart and talent like these ladies. We love you Niki and Donna. ❤❤
Glad Niki and Donna are saying what so many of us felt or knew about Madonna and her gifts to the world. They two are also inspiring and bring great energy and insight to the world because they are part of that history and journey.
@@marg233 Really? That question is very negative, but to spell it out: Gifts of her ability to entertain through music and dance in a way that brings joy , inspiration, and that provokes one to think. Also, gifts of political advocacyfor social justice, awareness and philanthropy for those afflicted with HIV, and helping children in need in Milawi.
What a great reaction from these girls! I never thought it was strange or worrying behavior, it looked more like Madonna having fun and pissing people off.
Frankly I watched her Superbowl performance years ago and was concerned for her. For this tour at this point in her life I do wish it was more glamorous and maybe involved less dancing and putting on a show like she used to and more on singing and connecting with audiences and celebrating nostalgia. But that's my taste and wishful thinking.
Niki's voice is what I remember from like a prayer. Still my favorite part of the song is her bridge.. it was gut wrenching. She basically owned the song..
Beautiful how these 2 ladies talk about Madonna. They are spot on, Madonna was never out there to hurt people but to give love to the world! Thank U Nikki and Donna.🙌❤
Mj lost steam creatively pretty much after Thriller. He's been trying to emulate the same formula creatively ever since then. It's okay but it's just what it was. It's fine.
No clue how I stumbled across this but omg Donna and Nikki ❤ I’m in tears these two so respectful towards M I love it. I saw this latest tour 7 x in Europe and had the best time crying my way through it Queen Madonna is a soldier and a warrior this is right…. I have always been educated by Madonna since I was 10 years old and I’m 50 now….. she is teaches us how to evolve 👑 ❤️ also no way in hell does Madonna do drugs she is a control freak
Love hearing Niki and Donna. It's very inspiring to hear Niki talk about, "witnessing evolution" through her experiences. It takes somebody with a desire for knowledge to have processed those cultural lessons and gleaned such insight from it.
I love these ladies! They know the truth about Madonna and stand up for her. More people need to listen to them and drop the negativity they feel towards Madonna. People are just wasting their breath hating on Madonna.
Great interview, great thoughts - for the host, small request/idea - a round table with guests on an angle next to you so we can see their faces when they turn to talk to you. Anyway, very happy to hear these two amazing women ❤
Niki is absolutely correct! M opened the doors to how we view cultures, art, movies, fashion, evolution in the world through her music, music videos , images she did, concerts, etc. All through hard work.
I have stopped folloafonna on social media many years ago. But I was at the Celebration tour. She is karger than life. I can take whatever I want from her. And she has given so mich of herself in every shape and form. I am so much more culturally literate, and invested, informed and overall better version of myself - because of her!
Bad camera placement. Donna and Niki should be facing the camera, not the interviewer. Not interested in his face, let’s see the guests and their reactions.
I HATE when people say she shouldn’t do Something because of her age, Really? She’s a performer, do they want her knitting in a rocking chair in her videos? For me, it’s not about all the sexy stuff, she’s always done that, but since about 2015 her behaviour has become more & more odd, like she’s having some sort of Amanda Bynes mental breakdown. I Love that’s she’s toned it down since she’s since recovering from the illness, because she constantly talks about not wanting to repeat herself & that’s all she seems to do now. The grillz, the leather caps, she never used to repeat herself & now it’s the Same thing over & over & over & over again.
WOW ! What a GIFT this podcast interview has been! Such GRACIOUS women giving praise to another woman without seeming like they are pandering...just authentic respect...and oh yeah FUCK 50cent...
She let them go - not “fired them” - they were/are mothers and wives and have their own lives and she wanted them to Do Them (aka You Do You, so they say). They probably softly retired and have a stipend of some sort from M. It wouldn’t surprise any of us
@@jamesdaly9016 I find this a little sad. It's possible they didn't want to be acknowledged during the show. But I do feel that Madonna sometimes leaves behind previous relationships. We don't know the situation, though.
@jamesdaly9016 she's burned every bridge besides Rosie and Ingrid, Debi. No one keeps the same friends for life but M goes through friends like clothes. She rarely keeps them. Now she associates with no talent people and "artists" who will make her look cool. We don't know what really happened with the trio but Madonna lost out when she lost these two.
Madonna changed after divorcing Guy Ritchie and simultaneously turning 50. I just turned 50 and it’s not easy but I cant imagine being famous and doing it.
Donna is down to earth and speaks with calmness and a vision on her path. Nikki looks pretty much high all the time. The interviewer isn’t really in the room. Looks more like a hologram.
There’s always a sacrifice of some sort. Money, love and time seem to be the most common. No matter how rich you are, we all only get the same 24 hours each day, so in choosing where to put our attention, we make sacrifices. Madonna’s sacrifices have resulted in incredible rewards, but that’s a risk we all take when we make sacrifices. Will it pay off and will it be worth it?
These two women are classic enablers. Look back at Elvis, Amy Winehouse, Prince, Michael Jackson. They were surrounded by hangers-on who would either deflect or defend really questionable lifestyle choices. It's very obvious Madonna is having body dysmorphia issues (along with some others). So, let's not call out the self-destructive behavior and potentially alienate fans of hers.
I understand you want to praise her as you both worked with her many times, however been constantly late is rude and disrespectful, remember these people have Jobs to go to also
All Madonna was doing seemed like a huge cry for attention. So when you do that and the majority finds it ridiculous - be prepared to hear it. Of course with the backlash she was all in with the victim narrative how thats ageism and sexism. Its not. No one has an issue with her age more than herself. And that is why she did all that to her face and body and is acting this way. There's no "art" in it
I am a fan and I have to agree with you. Many older women don't cover their bodies either, but they do it all with taste. (Deneuve, Sarandon etc). Madonna ridiculed herself on social media and acted like she's a victim of misogyny. That's nothing to do with misogyny.
The ageist critics of Madonna are stupid but there is absolutely NO reasons why Madonna has benefited such insane glory her entire life. Everything that made her iconic is the work of somebody else. Let that sink in. She’s just a product of insane visual propaganda at the golden age of 80s MTV. Her image was bombarded non stop and got into the skull of very young impressionable people with million dollars budget PR campaign. She doesn’t write her music nor designs her clothes nor direct her music videos … she was just ambitious and was here at the right time at the right place. There’s absolutely no reason for the world to be particularly respectful to her. She didn’t bring anything to the world she took more than she gave. We don’t have to be “grateful that we have her” and people have the right to express their opinions about her.
And yet every writer/producer she's ever worked with emphasises how much she writes and gets no credit for. Her debut album was entirely self/co written until WB brought in two extra tracks. She's produced every record since True Blue because again, WB wouldn't let her until she'd proven herself successful.
@@glasgow-1975 she absolutely didn’t produce every albums since true blue lol. This is just not true sorry. She may come with a melody line this and there but 95% of the music on her albums are the work of producers. Go tell Shep Pettibone, William Orbit, Mirwais or Jacques LuCont that she’s a music producer and they’ll answer “stop insulting me please”.
Niki and Donna are the perfect guests! Honest, real, empathetic, talkative, gracious, relatable-and with that rare insider’s view of someone so legendary.
U are welcome tons more vids posted
Madonna has always been my idol I saw her several years ago I cried as soon as she came on stage .. she always made you feel like it was OK to be different I loved her music her style and her evolution.. love these guests ..
Saw her again last night love
@@behindthevelvetrope jealous !!
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@behindthevelvetrope on a side note KD keeps taking ISH about you I feel the need to defend I got your back lol in case you need me 😄
@@msmariac awe thank you. She don't got nothing else to talk about LOL. She is obsessed LOL
Wow thank you so much ladies for coming to Madonna’s defence! Indeed she has contributed so much to humanity and equality recognition over the decades it is crazy to see her being criticised unnecessarily just because we have this thing called social media. I agree Madonna is all about positivity and strength. I sure hope she saw this interview herself coz you are just so on point. She is iconic performer and personality. You ladies are incredible Donna and Nikki! This is great interview
Thank u so much
The gay community is eternally grateful to MADONNA and also these 2 ladies that uplifted all that MADONNA did with her work. As far as Im concerned, there will never ever be a trio with so much heart and talent like these ladies. We love you Niki and Donna. ❤❤
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She did powerful amazing work for the gay community in the 80’s when everyone else wanted to burn us alive. She’s is a warrior goddess
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Yes!!! I remember. It was a battle in the mid '80's for gay rights. The Pioneers are my Heroes and Madonna put herself on the front!
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Glad Niki and Donna are saying what so many of us felt or knew about Madonna and her gifts to the world. They two are also inspiring and bring great energy and insight to the world because they are part of that history and journey.
Oooh
What's gifts has she given, pray tell ? Great music but gifts !
@@marg233 Really? That question is very negative, but to spell it out: Gifts of her ability to entertain through music and dance in a way that brings joy , inspiration, and that provokes one to think. Also, gifts of political advocacyfor social justice, awareness and philanthropy for those afflicted with HIV, and helping children in need in Milawi.
LOVE Niki & Donna! Great perspectives & commentary. Both of them are icons to me.
Tons more chats w them coming
I love me some Niki & Donna … TY for sharing the interviews !
U are welcome
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I love these ladies. Such class, grace, and talent.
I agree
What a great reaction from these girls! I never thought it was strange or worrying behavior, it looked more like Madonna having fun and pissing people off.
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" girls " ???
Thank You. TRUTH. So pleased for our hard-working genius who paved the way. Support our Ladies who step UP! XO
"THE ROSE IS NOT MAD AT THE TULIP!"
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Mads should really have them make an appearance on this tour ....for obvious reasons...
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Madonna can do whatever she wants. She has earned it. Good on Niki and Donna for being themselves and accepting a true artist for who she is.
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She can do whatever she wants and so can the people who criticize her.
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Frankly I watched her Superbowl performance years ago and was concerned for her. For this tour at this point in her life I do wish it was more glamorous and maybe involved less dancing and putting on a show like she used to and more on singing and connecting with audiences and celebrating nostalgia. But that's my taste and wishful thinking.
Niki's voice is what I remember from like a prayer. Still my favorite part of the song is her bridge.. it was gut wrenching. She basically owned the song..
Wowoow
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@@DjDoug4ever41 yeasss
Beautiful how these 2 ladies talk about Madonna. They are spot on, Madonna was never out there to hurt people but to give love to the world! Thank U Nikki and Donna.🙌❤
more vids posted with them
Cool to hear about Nikis child ❤
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I love how Niki replies "Michael!". I was thinking about MJ when she was talking about losing artists way too soon.
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Mj lost steam creatively pretty much after Thriller. He's been trying to emulate the same formula creatively ever since then. It's okay but it's just what it was. It's fine.
@@hoxtondean9855 wow
I love their words!They are so mature.
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1:19 “DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO.” -I’ve always seen Madonna as a FUN LOVING individual at any age 🤷🏾♂️🔥💐 She’s got an undeniable body of work too!
Brilliant
No clue how I stumbled across this but omg Donna and Nikki ❤ I’m in tears these two so respectful towards M I love it. I saw this latest tour 7 x in Europe and had the best time crying my way through it Queen Madonna is a soldier and a warrior this is right…. I have always been educated by Madonna since I was 10 years old and I’m 50 now….. she is teaches us how to evolve 👑 ❤️ also no way in hell does Madonna do drugs she is a control freak
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God bless these two wonderful women ❤ with Madonna, they gave us some of the most amazing music and performances
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Love these women. They’re the best friend, sister, mother any human can have. Madonna is very lucky and blessed having them in her corner.
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She was awesome at Live Aid
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Love hearing Niki and Donna. It's very inspiring to hear Niki talk about, "witnessing evolution" through her experiences. It takes somebody with a desire for knowledge to have processed those cultural lessons and gleaned such insight from it.
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She's amazing
No more need to be said! ❤
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Is there a full podcast video?
Yes you can listen to the FULL thing below 1 does this link work
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-velvet-rope/id1496557812?i=1000642619173
I'd like to hear more from Donna.
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I love these ladies! They know the truth about Madonna and stand up for her. More people need to listen to them and drop the negativity they feel towards Madonna. People are just wasting their breath hating on Madonna.
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So great what Niki said about her Binary Daughter."It's just evolution".
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Great interview, great thoughts - for the host, small request/idea - a round table with guests on an angle next to you so we can see their faces when they turn to talk to you. Anyway, very happy to hear these two amazing women ❤
tons more pics posted with them - vides
Love the statement "we all have to check ourselves with all d criticisms and judgement ❤
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They're raw honest❤
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So happy with their responses.... positivity....yes let her be herself.
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Very spiritually tuned in ladies!!
I agree
Preach ladies!!!! love it!!
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I would love to see them on this tour :) That would be so wonderful!
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Get rid of Bob
Niki is absolutely correct! M opened the doors to how we view cultures, art, movies, fashion, evolution in the world through her music, music videos , images she did, concerts, etc. All through hard work.
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Love this!🙌🏽
thank you
This was lovely to hear
I agree
I have stopped folloafonna on social media many years ago.
But I was at the Celebration tour.
She is karger than life. I can take whatever I want from her. And she has given so mich of herself in every shape and form.
I am so much more culturally literate, and invested, informed and overall better version of myself - because of her!
This is a great way to look at it
Such important insights
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Love these girls😊
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Love you girlssss
Whoo hoo
Positive, kind, accepting and wise! 🌟
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Love these woman ive been waiting to hear fr them.
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Bad camera placement. Donna and Niki should be facing the camera, not the interviewer. Not interested in his face, let’s see the guests and their reactions.
Tons more vids posted w Niki and Donna - make sure to check em out - about 15 others to watch
I HATE when people say she shouldn’t do Something because of her age, Really? She’s a performer, do they want her knitting in a rocking chair in her videos? For me, it’s not about all the sexy stuff, she’s always done that, but since about 2015 her behaviour has become more & more odd, like she’s having some sort of Amanda Bynes mental breakdown. I Love that’s she’s toned it down since she’s since recovering from the illness, because she constantly talks about not wanting to repeat herself & that’s all she seems to do now. The grillz, the leather caps, she never used to repeat herself & now it’s the Same thing over & over & over & over again.
Oh wow
The makingout with girls her daughter's age is really 🤢. She needs to stop already.
@@rockowilson2320 lol
You can't control what people say.
correct @@justpassingthrough3410
This is lovely. I’d love her to work with two again.
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You 2 so are big 2 we lear with you and admire for sure
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WOW ! What a GIFT this podcast interview has been! Such GRACIOUS women giving praise to another woman without seeming like they are pandering...just authentic respect...and oh yeah FUCK 50cent...
ONFG yes yes yes I am so glad u liked it
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I don't know why she didn't hire them back
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She let them go - not “fired them” - they were/are mothers and wives and have their own lives and she wanted them to Do Them (aka You Do You, so they say). They probably softly retired and have a stipend of some sort from M. It wouldn’t surprise any of us
omg, can Niki let Donna speak? lol
Lol
We will never see them perform with Madonna ever again
I hope you are wrong, but it seems like it for now
@@aynosekeponer Madonna didn’t acknowledge them last night during the concert. She doesn’t know them anymore
@@jamesdaly9016 I find this a little sad. It's possible they didn't want to be acknowledged during the show. But I do feel that Madonna sometimes leaves behind previous relationships. We don't know the situation, though.
@jamesdaly9016 she's burned every bridge besides Rosie and Ingrid, Debi. No one keeps the same friends for life but M goes through friends like clothes. She rarely keeps them. Now she associates with no talent people and "artists" who will make her look cool. We don't know what really happened with the trio but Madonna lost out when she lost these two.
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Madonna changed after divorcing Guy Ritchie and simultaneously turning 50. I just turned 50 and it’s not easy but I cant imagine being famous and doing it.
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Donna is down to earth and speaks with calmness and a vision on her path. Nikki looks pretty much high all the time. The interviewer isn’t really in the room. Looks more like a hologram.
I wish I was a hologram
That would be so hot
They are aging A LOT BETTER THAN MADONNA. And they don't have the money to waste in expensive treatments.
Wow
There’s always a sacrifice of some sort. Money, love and time seem to be the most common. No matter how rich you are, we all only get the same 24 hours each day, so in choosing where to put our attention, we make sacrifices. Madonna’s sacrifices have resulted in incredible rewards, but that’s a risk we all take when we make sacrifices. Will it pay off and will it be worth it?
Yup I chose money and work over love
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Thank you
The heart is there so I don’t fault her at all, but it was funny hearing her say “my non-binary daughter” lol
Yes nice woman
They talk about her like she's Mother Teresa
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These two women are classic enablers. Look back at Elvis, Amy Winehouse, Prince, Michael Jackson. They were surrounded by hangers-on who would either deflect or defend really questionable lifestyle choices. It's very obvious Madonna is having body dysmorphia issues (along with some others). So, let's not call out the self-destructive behavior and potentially alienate fans of hers.
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I understand you want to praise her as you both worked with her many times, however been constantly late is rude and disrespectful, remember these people have Jobs to go to also
Oh, well. Then stay home and stay in bed. Don't go out on a school night.
@@senorgato70 your comments show who you are.
Loved it
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LOL "I got a DAUGHTER who is non binary." oh that's not....
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Drag 49 cent huntee!
Omg
Niki should learn how to listen and let others speak.
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What about her new face 👀❓ It’s a bit like a cartoon face. 🤭
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All Madonna was doing seemed like a huge cry for attention. So when you do that and the majority finds it ridiculous - be prepared to hear it. Of course with the backlash she was all in with the victim narrative how thats ageism and sexism. Its not. No one has an issue with her age more than herself. And that is why she did all that to her face and body and is acting this way. There's no "art" in it
wow
I am a fan and I have to agree with you.
Many older women don't cover their bodies either, but they do it all with taste. (Deneuve, Sarandon etc). Madonna ridiculed herself on social media and acted like she's a victim of misogyny. That's nothing to do with misogyny.
wait wtf is up with this narcan and drugs stuff? rude to even mention this like this
We always do
They are drunk on the madonna kool aid.
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A great talent - but not well.
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The ageist critics of Madonna are stupid but there is absolutely NO reasons why Madonna has benefited such insane glory her entire life. Everything that made her iconic is the work of somebody else. Let that sink in.
She’s just a product of insane visual propaganda at the golden age of 80s MTV. Her image was bombarded non stop and got into the skull of very young impressionable people with million dollars budget PR campaign. She doesn’t write her music nor designs her clothes nor direct her music videos … she was just ambitious and was here at the right time at the right place. There’s absolutely no reason for the world to be particularly respectful to her. She didn’t bring anything to the world she took more than she gave. We don’t have to be “grateful that we have her” and people have the right to express their opinions about her.
That's dark. True but very dark. She worked with good artists... Very good artists, writers, and PR teams.
And yet every writer/producer she's ever worked with emphasises how much she writes and gets no credit for. Her debut album was entirely self/co written until WB brought in two extra tracks. She's produced every record since True Blue because again, WB wouldn't let her until she'd proven herself successful.
@@glasgow-1975 she absolutely didn’t produce every albums since true blue lol. This is just not true sorry. She may come with a melody line this and there but 95% of the music on her albums are the work of producers. Go tell Shep Pettibone, William Orbit, Mirwais or Jacques LuCont that she’s a music producer and they’ll answer “stop insulting me please”.
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Man we almost got rid of Madonna. Hopefully the universe tries again this year.
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