My mom is blind and she loves Skewbits! It's a tactile game, so it's one of the surprisingly few puzzle games she can really play. She only had slight problems with the hinges being so small that it was hard for her to make them out in the frames. She just gave hers away and asked me to print a new one for her. Then I found this new version. I'm wondering what she'll say about the changes, but I guess she will like it even better now.
Revisiting and improving designs is very good idea for future videos IMHO. It is inspirational and educational material how you can better solve problems and not be satisfied with the first or second attempt.
Idea for the puzzle levels: instead of laser cutting, just a simple (paper) printable version. Then can print of decent thick paper and manually cut out the inner outline. Easy to store too, just a few sheets of paper. Sure, it’s not 3d printed, but simple and works.
I was thinking a simple SVG file should work fine and would be compatible with both laser cutters and blade machines (Silhouette or Circuit). I think heavy card stock should work fine and store in much less space. People could even laser print (from a PDF) on the card stock and cut it with a hobby knife.
I subscribed to your Thangs like a few months ago and I'm honestly blown away how good your games are on first principles. Your approach to fun games with flexible house rule approaches always leads to the best version of the game for me and my friends.
If you could print those outlines in a really flexible material like silicone rubber, you could squish them up and store them really compactly like sillybandz! but seriously, I think the classic retail solution of cards is probably the most efficient, but I like the tactile feel of the outlines, so maybe we could add a bunch of tiles (1x1 & 1x2) that block certain squares and hinges on the board, then have the cards instruct where to place the tiles to construct an outline.
The laser cut version, which I assume could also be used with the more capable vinyl cutters, seems way easier to deal with, even if it lacks the purity of all-3DP design. But between laser cutters and vinyl cutters, there are a lot of people out there who can make them.
Super cool project! :) For the puzzle outlines, how about a vertical stick with a standardized attachment that would have the number of the puzzle outline and just "clip" to the puzzle outline's number label that you already added? (putting all puzzle outlines horizontal and twisting circularly around a vertical axis). I am not sure if my vision is easy to imagine, but that would render almost as an art piece of a tree, with 3D printed little pieces with numbers from 1 to 50 always staying on. You would easily be able to browse through the puzzles, pick the specific one you want without moving all the other, and know where to store each one when you're done. This would use a minimal amount of plastic, and you could even imagine adding some kind of a toggle on the small pieces, so that you could keep track of which one you already completed.
Laser version would be great. More and more of us have a 3d printer and laser. This design works well with both, but I feel it's more suited to laser. However works well with both.
thank you! i recently started 3d printing as a hobby with a used printer but the printbed was just too small to print out skewbits v1. im waiting for a sale for a few printers i found interesting and this is probably the first thing i will print after tuning the printer in :)
If the problems had the grid itself at the bottom inside the puzzle, or maybe just every 3rd row/coloumn, then they wouldn't tangle when placed on top of each other, because there's no way to get in it. Of course this means more material per puzzle in the end as well. But probably less compared to the sleeves and it could be stacked just like the laser cut version
Would love for you to revisit these: 1. Tippi Tree (maybe new skin) 2. 3D pen project/art (rejected animals??) 3. VR!!!!! These are some of the things I would like to see again.
one idea... you have colors assigned for the bits. You might think about specifying the color for puzzles... one color for easy, one for mid, one for hard, and one for expert. You could also encode a number somewhere on the puzzle which lists the total number of possible solutions (now that you have a program to find them).
I really like the laser cut angle. It could be done on cardstock/cardboard to avoid all the plastic usage (cheaper too) + the easier storage you mentioned.
I would suggest a DIY led strip grid, then no puzzle to store, and infinite possibilities, allowing the community to propose downloadable puzzles. Less things to print could be better for the planet too. 😄
@@eryarer Yeah, less biodegradable plastic and more rare metals and hard to recycle compound materials… That said: the oulines should obviously be printed on paper and put under the board which should have a grid like structure so you can see the outlines.
To make your filing cabinet version look less messy. You could raise the plane that separates each puzzle. So basically have a tall box with a lid that has all the slits. Then position all the number tags so they poke out the top. I would personally raise the rim past the tags I just mentioned so I can rest the board on top to act as a lid
THANK YOU FOR RE-MAKING V2 !!! SERIOUSLY !! i know it was A LOT of work !! but my family LOVES playing V1, and they HATED the inverted problems you talked about with both the frames and the blocks. so again - THANK YOU for re-making this as V2 !! also - can i get a copy of the solid problem cards as STL or SVG ?? i think i might have a solution for you.
You could at a slit on the hole by the number so they could be stored on a ring and pulled off or replaced easily. Or instead of a ring it could just be a small guide rail so they could be stacked and moved together easily.
Maybe you could make a skewable problem wall that can bend into schape. Then you only need the one wall and you form it to a booklet showing problems. I think other games like this do it that way. I have a game that has would for example have a few more black skewbits that you would have to lay down on specific spaces like the manual and then you fill in the other spots. So maybe just 1x1 black skewbits that you can blank out the other spots with. Then you would only need the amount of spots - the colourd skewbits :). Then you can store all skewbits on the field and would only need to have a lid for that and a small book with problem examples.
Make a hole punching tool to make the problems out of paper/cardboard. The user can use a paper printer to print the pattern to punch the holes first then cut the outline with straight lines.
Maybe you thought of this already, but I think it would be awesome if the problem numbers were all at the top while they're stored so they can be easily identified. Sort of like the folder labels in your file cabinet analogy.
Have you considered modularity with the problems? It could help reduce the profile of the game by a LOT by you having to build the problem or modify the board in some way
i would like to see a LED Matrix underneath that just lights up the problem outlines, controllable via app or just a rotary encoder which increments by 1 or shuffles when clciked.
Since you are talking about "partnering" and "getting it out to more people" Would I be work for making an online version of the game (obviously crediting you as the inventor, and with links to all the relevant things like this channel, the STL's, and all that jazz) Cause it seams like a really cool programming challenge, and this way people that don't have a 3D printer, could also enjoy this fun game
I didn't see the laser cut files mentioned on Thangs. Do you plan on releasing them because I really like those. Edit: Another vote for laser SVGs please. These would make it soooo much better for storage.
I have only made the one problem so far, since I'd have to recreate every problem one by one... so for now I'm just gauging interest (yours has been noted!) (:
@@make.anything Sorry, I should have updated my comment after watching to the end of the video. I hope you can find a good way to auto-generate the SVG files so it's not a bunch of extra work. Maybe someone who's good with OpenSCAD can make a tool.
There has to be a way how to make the templates modular (break them to few unique connecting parts) and provide book instead of lot of plastic templates but who knows if that is viable solution :)
Looks fun, unfortunately printing it seems to be beyond the capabilities of my aging Ender-3 even after some calibrating it again (bottom hinge fuses to the shaft where it prints in midair).
Why not do the 3D printed problems, kinda keep the L shape but put a border around it akin to the outside diameter of the laser cut. All 3D printed parts would be the same size and thus make storage and indexing easier. Would be more filament in general, but maybe less than the flexible printed screen problem version, and should be sturdier.
Talking about the problems is hilarious. Because it sounds like you're talking about like, issues that you're having. But then like, it just sounds nonsensical.
My mom is blind and she loves Skewbits! It's a tactile game, so it's one of the surprisingly few puzzle games she can really play. She only had slight problems with the hinges being so small that it was hard for her to make them out in the frames.
She just gave hers away and asked me to print a new one for her. Then I found this new version. I'm wondering what she'll say about the changes, but I guess she will like it even better now.
Revisiting and improving designs is very good idea for future videos IMHO. It is inspirational and educational material how you can better solve problems and not be satisfied with the first or second attempt.
Idea for the puzzle levels: instead of laser cutting, just a simple (paper) printable version. Then can print of decent thick paper and manually cut out the inner outline. Easy to store too, just a few sheets of paper. Sure, it’s not 3d printed, but simple and works.
Or you could use a machine like a cricket cutter to make the puzzles
I would love to laser cut some thick paper
The laser cut patterns are MUCH better!! They won't tangle and would take up less space
Such great design updates! The laser cut version is such a great idea. I’ve really loved how much you can do with scrap cardboard and a laser cutter.
Love the laser cutting idea for problems! I wonder if some kind of software could be used to convert the outline of the level into a laser path.
if you could get a black and white image of the level, you could just use edge detect to find the boundary to cut out
I was thinking a simple SVG file should work fine and would be compatible with both laser cutters and blade machines (Silhouette or Circuit). I think heavy card stock should work fine and store in much less space. People could even laser print (from a PDF) on the card stock and cut it with a hobby knife.
I subscribed to your Thangs like a few months ago and I'm honestly blown away how good your games are on first principles. Your approach to fun games with flexible house rule approaches always leads to the best version of the game for me and my friends.
Such a cool concept! And the name has a nice ring to it. I just bought the full set and I am looking forward to print it
Thank you! It did actually take me wayy too long to come up with a name, but I'm happy with it too :P
If you could print those outlines in a really flexible material like silicone rubber, you could squish them up and store them really compactly like sillybandz! but seriously, I think the classic retail solution of cards is probably the most efficient, but I like the tactile feel of the outlines, so maybe we could add a bunch of tiles (1x1 & 1x2) that block certain squares and hinges on the board, then have the cards instruct where to place the tiles to construct an outline.
The laser cut version, which I assume could also be used with the more capable vinyl cutters, seems way easier to deal with, even if it lacks the purity of all-3DP design. But between laser cutters and vinyl cutters, there are a lot of people out there who can make them.
Love that shirt!
Good to see you back in my feed.
You always amaze me with your ingenuity. Kudos to you and keep creating!
Love that shirt. And love the idea of using the laser cutter. Always like to do laser cutter stuff to make it seem like i didnt just buy it on a whim
Super cool project! :) For the puzzle outlines, how about a vertical stick with a standardized attachment that would have the number of the puzzle outline and just "clip" to the puzzle outline's number label that you already added? (putting all puzzle outlines horizontal and twisting circularly around a vertical axis).
I am not sure if my vision is easy to imagine, but that would render almost as an art piece of a tree, with 3D printed little pieces with numbers from 1 to 50 always staying on. You would easily be able to browse through the puzzles, pick the specific one you want without moving all the other, and know where to store each one when you're done.
This would use a minimal amount of plastic, and you could even imagine adding some kind of a toggle on the small pieces, so that you could keep track of which one you already completed.
This actually looks like a fun game. Also that shirt is 🔥
Laser version would be great. More and more of us have a 3d printer and laser.
This design works well with both, but I feel it's more suited to laser. However works well with both.
That shirt is legit Devin! This is an awesome puzzle, thanks for sharing with the community!
Lets go he posted! You have inspired me to make my own game.
Laser cutter version is the best! Please make it!
Wow, that shirt is a statement.
thank you! i recently started 3d printing as a hobby with a used printer but the printbed was just too small to print out skewbits v1. im waiting for a sale for a few printers i found interesting and this is probably the first thing i will print after tuning the printer in :)
If the problems had the grid itself at the bottom inside the puzzle, or maybe just every 3rd row/coloumn, then they wouldn't tangle when placed on top of each other, because there's no way to get in it. Of course this means more material per puzzle in the end as well. But probably less compared to the sleeves and it could be stacked just like the laser cut version
Would love for you to revisit these:
1. Tippi Tree (maybe new skin)
2. 3D pen project/art (rejected animals??)
3. VR!!!!!
These are some of the things I would like to see again.
Great list 😁 hopefully I can get a VR setup here in Sweden... it's definitely a fun way to sculpt!
one idea... you have colors assigned for the bits. You might think about specifying the color for puzzles... one color for easy, one for mid, one for hard, and one for expert. You could also encode a number somewhere on the puzzle which lists the total number of possible solutions (now that you have a program to find them).
I really like the laser cut angle. It could be done on cardstock/cardboard to avoid all the plastic usage (cheaper too) + the easier storage you mentioned.
I would suggest a DIY led strip grid, then no puzzle to store, and infinite possibilities, allowing the community to propose downloadable puzzles. Less things to print could be better for the planet too. 😄
In what world would this be better for the planet?
@@andreasmuller5630 less printing or plastic
@@eryarer Yeah, less biodegradable plastic and more rare metals and hard to recycle compound materials… That said: the oulines should obviously be printed on paper and put under the board which should have a grid like structure so you can see the outlines.
This looks like so much fun! Wish I had a printer myself 👏
Thanks for the update! I’ll have to try to print this
Waiting for the commercial version to have an additional 49 problems.
Skewbits: “99 Problems but the Bits Solve ‘Em!” 😂
To make your filing cabinet version look less messy. You could raise the plane that separates each puzzle.
So basically have a tall box with a lid that has all the slits. Then position all the number tags so they poke out the top.
I would personally raise the rim past the tags I just mentioned so I can rest the board on top to act as a lid
THANK YOU FOR RE-MAKING V2 !!! SERIOUSLY !! i know it was A LOT of work !! but my family LOVES playing V1, and they HATED the inverted problems you talked about with both the frames and the blocks. so again - THANK YOU for re-making this as V2 !!
also - can i get a copy of the solid problem cards as STL or SVG ?? i think i might have a solution for you.
Now I need a laser cutter, Devin said so. I'll go tell my wife.
I always love a new video from banana springo guy
Great work, Devin!
You could at a slit on the hole by the number so they could be stored on a ring and pulled off or replaced easily. Or instead of a ring it could just be a small guide rail so they could be stacked and moved together easily.
Maybe you could make a skewable problem wall that can bend into schape. Then you only need the one wall and you form it to a booklet showing problems. I think other games like this do it that way. I have a game that has would for example have a few more black skewbits that you would have to lay down on specific spaces like the manual and then you fill in the other spots. So maybe just 1x1 black skewbits that you can blank out the other spots with. Then you would only need the amount of spots - the colourd skewbits :). Then you can store all skewbits on the field and would only need to have a lid for that and a small book with problem examples.
Make a hole punching tool to make the problems out of paper/cardboard. The user can use a paper printer to print the pattern to punch the holes first then cut the outline with straight lines.
I would love the lazer cut versions. I would still 3d print them even if it took more material and longer to do.
Maybe you thought of this already, but I think it would be awesome if the problem numbers were all at the top while they're stored so they can be easily identified. Sort of like the folder labels in your file cabinet analogy.
99 Problems
but storing them ain't one
Awesome game just got an aweskme update)
I'd probably be willing to 2d print and hand cut the problems just for the flat pack storage.
Have you considered modularity with the problems? It could help reduce the profile of the game by a LOT by you having to build the problem or modify the board in some way
Another great video!
i might print this somewhen!
I got version one a few days ago. My timing is great
i would like to see a LED Matrix underneath that just lights up the problem outlines, controllable via app or just a rotary encoder which increments by 1 or shuffles when clciked.
Since you are talking about "partnering" and "getting it out to more people"
Would I be work for making an online version of the game (obviously crediting you as the inventor, and with links to all the relevant things like this channel, the STL's, and all that jazz)
Cause it seams like a really cool programming challenge, and this way people that don't have a 3D printer, could also enjoy this fun game
I didn't see the laser cut files mentioned on Thangs. Do you plan on releasing them because I really like those.
Edit: Another vote for laser SVGs please. These would make it soooo much better for storage.
I have only made the one problem so far, since I'd have to recreate every problem one by one... so for now I'm just gauging interest (yours has been noted!) (:
@@make.anything Sorry, I should have updated my comment after watching to the end of the video. I hope you can find a good way to auto-generate the SVG files so it's not a bunch of extra work. Maybe someone who's good with OpenSCAD can make a tool.
There has to be a way how to make the templates modular (break them to few unique connecting parts) and provide book instead of lot of plastic templates but who knows if that is viable solution :)
I wish i could also store away all my problems like that. D:
Just wondering if purchases of models made on MMF would transfer to thangs or at least get updates as well.
this is fantastic! could you also add a few little extras to tippy tree?
Yes, I've got some in the works!
Looks fun, unfortunately printing it seems to be beyond the capabilities of my aging Ender-3 even after some calibrating it again (bottom hinge fuses to the shaft where it prints in midair).
I would very much like it if you could revisit Galactops once more, especially after all your current level of knowledge
Why not do the 3D printed problems, kinda keep the L shape but put a border around it akin to the outside diameter of the laser cut. All 3D printed parts would be the same size and thus make storage and indexing easier. Would be more filament in general, but maybe less than the flexible printed screen problem version, and should be sturdier.
Cool! 👍
That box is nowhere near big enough for my problems 😂😅
Unfortunately, puzzle number 12 is impossible 😔
Ring binder type folder
Cool. You might get a *few* more customers making it fit on a 180x180 build plate.
Talking about the problems is hilarious. Because it sounds like you're talking about like, issues that you're having. But then like, it just sounds nonsensical.