There are a couple of corrections I need to point out. During the video, I say the Taycan is the only EV with two charge ports, and that's not correct, the Audi e-tron (also from VW Group) also has two charge ports - one on either side of the vehicle. Additionally, I said there are no 400-v DC fast chargers in the US that can deliver more than 50 kW. The fact is there are a few of them - very few, and I maintain that the 150 kW 400v DC Fast charge option is still definitely not worth it. There are probably around 4,000 DC fast chargers currently in the US, and likely less than 20 that are 400-Volt and can deliver more than 50 kW - and most of them can deliver 80 kW or 100 kW, not 150 kW. Finally, I'm happy to report that you can get the Mobile Charger Connect with a longer 25' cable at no extra cost. I highly recommend you opt for the longer cable if you buy the Mobile Charger Connect.
Ha ha! Right after you said that I thought, "Pretty sure I've seen some 400v that do 80+kW on PlugShare!" I agree it's absolutely not worth the near $500 part. Good correction! ;)
You won’t find this comprehensive info on the Taycan charging anywhere else! FYI, the Audi e-tron has similar charging ports on both sides of car as well. Great video, Tom 👍
James, not sure if the charging is the same here in the states, but I live in an area where Tesla chargers are readily available, and will probably have to rely on this as my primary local station - do you think I'll be OK?
That OEM Porsche mobile charger is a fat pig for $1100. Just get a Tesla mobile connector with a TeslaTap.. or do some research on how to get a Jesla mobile connector. That’ll be half the cost of that overweight Porsche connector. WiFi is overrated, as this can be programmed remotely on app.
Very grateful for this comprehensive Taycan EV charging video, quite helpful even for me here in Japan, where things are a wee bit more confusing. CHAdeMo anyone?
Hey Tom thanks for the video, very helpful. I just ordered the cross truismo and I need to have a charger installed in my office. There will be a couple of teslas using the charger as well but I wanted to know which Level 2 charger you think would be best?
Tom, my 2019 Kia Niro (64kw) owners manual says “Battery performance and durability can deteriorate if the DC charger is used constantly. Use of DC charge should be minimized in order to help prolong high voltage battery life” is that a recommendation to minimize DC for all EV’s to follow or just Kias? I have installed a Flo X5 on a 40 amp circuit but have internally restricted the X5 charge rate to 16amps/240v (3.8kw/hr) which charges my NIRO overnight to 80% to maximize my battery life. Is that a recommended Best Practice in EV charging?
Frequent DC Fast charging will help to accelerate battery degradation, but I stress the word "frequent". If you charge at home on level 2 daily, and once or twice a month you DC fast charge then you have nothing to worry about. As for lower amperage, while charging on level 2, most battery experts will tell you charging on 16-amps or 32-amps will make no difference at all. The enemy is heat, and level 2 charging - even at the vehicle's full charging rate just doesn't generate enough heat to cause a problem. It's actually more important to try not to charge in the summer if the car is baking in very hot ambient temperatures (95F and above). Try to let the car cool off a bit in the garage before charging if you've been driving it in extremely hot weather for a while. Set the delayed charge timer and let the car charge overnight when it's cooler.
Tom, you rock this one, very informative! 👍.. Best charging 101 video yet.. happy you keep it to just the 3 plug types that truly matter .. soon will just be the 2 .. BTW the eTron also have 2 charge ports .. identical setup as the Taycan ..
Yup - a few other people reminded me about that. I haven't driven the e-Tron since it first came out and I never had one on press loan to do charging tests, so I fumbled that one!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney no worries.. it’s like a $500 option if I remember correctly..most people may not get it that option anyways lol .. Tom I got to say you got a talent for making things so easier to understand.. I made a video about how to charge the eTron off a generator.. I have not posted it yet but I think I am just no good at explaining things lol 😂 .. I think you should make a video for this .. it’s a great idea for emergency .. 10-11kW top up on the side of the road ..
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you are right as always ... I’ll see to sort it .. I also made another video showing how to use the eTron MMI to map only HPC chargers during a navigated route .. something Kyle was trying todo in the eTron he has for a bit .. he gave me the idea .. no one seems to have done a useful deep dive into the eTron ..
Thank you for answering all my charging concerns and questions. This is the definitive video for anyone who needs to understand how to charge or pay for charging your Taycan.
I'm telling you, yeah we are seeing more electric cars on the road, especially Teslas, but until they simplify this ENTIRE process of charging so that the "average" consumer can FIRST understand it then second make it aa fast as gasing up at a gas station, ICE cars are here to stay. Period.
FYI Tom, Porsche's request for permission to access personal charging data is most likely due EU Data Protection compliance regulations which can be quite stringent and rather than make their equipment software different for different markets, it was standardised.
Every Taycan owner should watch this video. They will learn more about charging their car from Tom than any dealer. Even as a Tesla owner, I learned several charging facts. High power EV source equipment must wait battery technology to catch up. Even if you charge at a Tesla V3-250 kw station, the batteries can only handle that power for about a minute. When they can handle that amount of power for 15 minutes without damaging the battery, we’ll get 250 mi of charging based on 1000 mph.
Great video, thanks! The Tesla Destination chargers can be locked so they only work with a Tesla - please look for the sign next to the destination charger: red background = locked, white background = open to all vehicles. Around here, it will be open to all vehicles if Tesla provides the destination charger for free and the property owner pays for the install. If Tesla paid for everything (the install as well as providing the destination charger for free), they will have the red sign indicating Tesla vehicles only. For bigger installs, half of them typically are open to all vehicles.
Excellent video! I have a Model X 2020 but am thinking about getting the Taycan. It is great to know that I can use my Tesla home charger with the Taycan and adapter.
Another great video. I have a basic question. You mentioned that this car comes with a 40 amp level 2 charger . Will this car also work with a 30 amp level 2 charger? Is there a safety feature in the level 2 charger that prevents this vehicle trying to draw too much power out of it?
Yes, it will work just fine. When you plug the connector into the car there's a communication process where basically, the car asks the charger how much power it can deliver. It then requests the maximum the charger can deliver and it can accept. So the Taycan would just ask for 30-amps for a 30-amp EVSE.
Hi Tom, great review, thanks. I've read that the e-tron GT has the same AC charge port (so max 11 kW) but that an upcoming 'update' may increase that to 22 kW. Can you get 22 kW from a home wall charger in the US?
You have a nice, well educated group of people that watch this channel. Everywhere else you will find people bitching and complain that Tesla does not let everyone use their chargers Tesla has spent an incredible fortune building out their charing network before there were even cars to use them and they are greatly expanding their DC charging stations. Everyone else is waiting for things to come along just the way that gas stations were built to fuel the new horseless carriages. I should say that Rivian said that they will have charging so that their customers can take long trips in the backcountry. I don't know if I got that correctly or if things have changed?
Rivian has promised to install some charging and remote areas but they haven't really given us a full plan and to what extent they're willing to invest in it.
Great video and thanks for providing all the valuable information and advice. I ordered the Taycan with the 150kw option that will apparently only provide valuable to Porsche's bottom line. Thanks for this advice though. Two other points, Porsche's Intelligent charger comes with a profile configuration that will only take your vehicle to an 80% charge. This is better for the battery if one is travelling short distances. To achieve 100% charge, you just turn the profile setting off. WIth the shortage of new vehicles, if you order a Taycan, one of the features is a charging cable that is 7.5 meters long. It is still a $0 cost option and allows full flexibility for charging multiple vehicles in one garage, either port.
Hi Tom, I have a confirmed allocation for a RWD Taycan with a freeze date in early February. Given the controversy generated by Alex Voight's article in Teslarati regarding the on board high voltage charger, would you buy a Taycan at this point in time?
Very informative video! I saw it was 45 min long and thought it was full of fluff, but you get straight to the point and go thru every detail I could imagine. I get annoyed with 20 min videos on how to cook a 3 min egg haha!
Tom, you can order a 25 foot charging cord as a free option. Afterwards if you want to buy the 25 foot cable it is $800+. I would like to see your experiences using the Porsche app at EA stations. I find it frustratingly complicated as I have a 2020 Taycan 4 S without plug and charge capability. In the future our older cars may get plug & charge capability, Keep up the good work. The Porsche mobile charger connect has been reduced in charging current to 20 amps due to unit and cable heating problems,
Tom, I recently had the 22 KW on board charger upgrade installed in my 2020 Taycan 4S. I now have the ability to do plug and charge. The upgrade kit with installation runs between $5K -$7K depending upon the skill of the Porsche dealer. I thought this upgrade was cheaper than buying a newer Taycan. Keep up the good work.
the 150kw 400V charging option is very cheap and would be useful if Tesla opened up the supercharger network to non-teslas. Otherwise you'd be stuck at 50kw at a tesla supercharger. But for those who never plan on that or wont keep their car long enough before Elon decides to do so, then yeah i guess save ur money
Thanks for the video, it clearly took a lot of effort. As somebody that's considering a Taycan, I've gotta say the charging looks bulky, clunky and ill thought out. I'll still be heading to the dealer to see what it's like in person, but the idea of charging $1000 dollars for a hideous dongle on a short cable is embarrassing.
Really helpful but I need help. I bought TeslaTap 80 amp for my Tesla Destination charger that’s capped at 80 amps. Plugged Taycan in and it tripped breaker in ten minutes then did it again. What is going on?
Great video! very helpful. I am about to purchase a 2024 Taycan 4s and since i already own a Tesla, I have the Tesla Wall Connector. I won't be buying a Porsche wall connector equivalent so I was looking for an adapter on Amazon. The Lectron you talked about in this video is of the older gen and now Lectron makes the Tesla to J1772 Adapter with a max of 48 Amp. I wanted to know based on your expertise, that adapter should be just fine to use on the Taycan with the existing Tesla Wall Connector right? The Tesla Wall Connector output is a max of 48 amp and this Lectron is also rated max of 48Amp. Appreciate your time!
Thank you sooo much for this video. I just purchased the Porsche Taycan a few days ago and frustrated with the short cable length on the charger. I never thought about a 3rd party charge equipment until now. Also the app suggestion is much appreciated!!
Tom - Want to use the SPLIT VOLT unit with dryer outlet. I believe I need to set the Porsche Connect Charger to 24 amps. Please advise if this acceptable. Thanks, Jeff K.
I know you think at 12:30 the 400/150kw option is not something you approve of. Apart from the new Tesla info, I had accepted this as true. I spoke to an EA rep and it seems that some of their 150kw chargers are 400 volt architecture and the used 2022 Taycan CT4S I purchased (which does not have the upgraded onboard charger) would only charge at 50kw. I am not convinced that there are a lot of EA fast chargers that are 400 volt architecture. Do you have some definitive info on that? Would this also apply to EVGo and Chargepoint?
It is a great video and information. I just got a Taycan. I also concern about over loading our power panel in my house. I need to know about power meter management device that can control home EV charger get power depend power consumption at house. Could you please advise me on this or if you have a video about it send me the link? Thank Kevin
What about the elephant in the room? - the Taycan battery damaging, cheap, onboard charger issue? Reports, especially from a Porsche whistle blower and others, seem to confirm that Porsche continue to ship around 60% Taycans with this built-in problem. As reported by The Electric Viking - Sam Evans recently.
I've had a Lectron Tesla to J1772 adaptor for four months working well. My Tesla wall charger is set to 48amps on a 60amp circuit breaker. It was working perfectly on delayed charging (TOU). Now all of a sudden it only works on direct charging. My scheduled charging now gives me a red light. I have not clue why? Any thoughts? Tonight I noticed it did not start charging at 10pm (my start time). I unplugged the Tesla plug from the adaptor and put it back in and it started working. I'm confused. Help.
The Lectron adapter isn't rated for 48-amps, I thank you fried something inside. I really need to match those adapters to the power you want them to deliver. TeslaTap makes higher-powered units for charging at over 32-amps.
This shouldn't be a 45 minute video... look at Tesla.. plug it in.. done. Porsche needs to get their charging game together. They need to just join up with Tesla and get the Tesla connector installed on all of their vehicles. Then Porsche can also use the Superchager network and it'll be easier for everybody! Why does everyone need their own connector. Just admit, Tesla won here and go with them. That's what I'd do.
Here is proof that this level of detail in a video is needed: while at an EA charger in CA. a former Tesla owner who switched to a Taycan was struggling to charge his car, giving up after a few minutes of trying to force the CCS plug into the charge port. He had left the protective dongle cap in. He also did not know about 350kW EA chargers or how to tell them apart from 150kW. Your video addressed both issues. Please reconsider referring to chargers as "400V" and "800V". That is determined by the car's pack voltage - the chargers themselves are usually 500V or 980-1000V. It matters if pack voltage is over 400V and
Hi Mike. I've given that thought, and I'm trying to explain this in relatively simple terms so most can understand - it's also why I don't ca home charging equipment EVSE - even though that's technically the proper term. But I accept your recommendation and will consider it in the future.
Hello, Quick question my mobile charges connected through 240v and has been working great for a year, but now it's blinking red, even before its plugged into the car. Can recommend resolution.
So if Tesla opens up there charging network like they try in the Netherlands right now, and you don't have the 400V fast charging option, than you have really lost. Tesla is 400V system as far as I know.
Tom I noticed you did not mention the optional 19.2 kw charger which is an expensive option BUT would seem to be an unnecessary option based on what I hear you saying BTW Thanks for a very good overall explanation for what Porsche has turned into a difficult to understand very expensive possibly unnecessary group of E-options
So i have come to learn....I am shopping this car now in florida and every single dealer is loading this option with their Taycans. Actually after watching this i am having difficulty bringing myself to order the mobile connect charger especially if the home charger they include at no charge with the car is adequate at home. I already owned and sold my Etron which i think has the same included connector as the standard Porsche unit and had no issues. Toms video seems to confirms this
huh? America doesn't have 400V chargers over 50kW? so if a Model 3 plugs into an Electrify America station it will charge at 50kW? or do u mean to say that Electrify America is the only provider with 150kW chargers and they also have an 800V charger at their locations?
Thanks for the informative video. I have a question I hope you can answer as I’ve heard conflicting opinions. I have a 2022 Taycan and a NEMA 14-50 charger for my garage. A place I visit frequently has a TT30 type RV outlet. Can I just buy a male TT30 to female 14-50 adapter and be good to go? Or does this risk blown breaker or fire?
Fantastic Tom. And thanks for the index. Very helpful Does your opinion on opting in for the 150 kW/400V change if Tesla opens up SC? I saw this comment and was curious Some would suggest getting the On-Board 150 kW/400V DC Charger from E-Mobility in case future use of Tesla Super Chargers becomes an option.
Sir. The argument I hear about the need to option the 150kw/400v option is because it will allow us to use the Tesla Superchargers when Elon opens them up. Your thoughts? And while a nice insurance blanket. Not sure if needed. Especially since it does look like EA is improving. Thanks for your great work
Now that Tesla has actually started to add CCS adapters to some of their Tesla Superchargers in North America (400V > 150kW) I think it now makes perfect sense to get that 150kW option on the Taycan.
Hi, thanks for the video. I’m an electrician and recently installed a 50 amp circuit with a 14-50 outlet for a customer’s 2021 Taycan. It’s working fine. Now, when she visits her brother, who has a 30 amp circuit, it keeps tripping the breaker. What could be going wrong here. Thanks for any info that you could supply.
Tom, now that it appears that Tesla will open many of their DC chargers to non Teslas, is it advisable to spec the 400-v DC option for Taycans? Thanks and I appreciate all the great advice on your site.
There is a new Porsche Wall Connect charger out. I am looking for information regarding its charging output if it is on a 60 amp breaker therefore limited to pulling 48 amps. Can you tell me how many kwh it will hit with that setup? Thanks
14:46 did not age well. You told people to cripple their car's ability to charge to save 460 dollars. Now those people can't use tesla ccs capable superchargers which will outnumber all the other ccs chargers that are 150kw or faster by the end of 2023. Turns out dealers were smarter than you.
hi tom, i used to have panamera hybrid and had a nema 6-50. I now have a tesla which i bought a converter they sell for $30 so i plug in at home--no problem..is there a converter for the taycan i can buy to convert the 14-50 to my 6-50 outlet? thx
Great practical video. Nice to have information that is not anecdotal and can be applied every day. But what encouraged you to by a Taycan given your past experience with EV's? Not necessarily the cheapest option out there.
I would love to be able to afford a Taycan! I had this one on a media loan. I get all of the EVs for a week or so. Up next is the ID.4, then a Mustang Mach-E. I own a dual-motor Model 3 because I think it's the best overall value for a long-range EV today. If money was no consideration, I'd probably have a Taycan. I've driven the Turbo, the Turbo S, and now the 4S and they are all fantastic vehicles, IMO.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney looking forward to your ID.4 review.. I had considered looking into that as I liked the SUV like setup and the lower cost.. Anyhow, I ended up getting a 2019 Tesla M3 SR+, it’s on the way..😁👍🏾 But your channel is great, lots of info for that EV newbie like me.. Should I invest in the installation of a 14-50 adaptor and get the $35 Tesla 14-50 adapter?
Great video, Tom 👏🏼. You certainly saved me some money on my Taycan 4S build. Not sure if it has been addressed, but is the 19.2 kW On-Board Charger option in worth it? Thank you.
Great video Tom. I will never be able to afford a Taycan, but a lot of your info for public charging stations applies to other cars too. At 36:10, close up of charge port, was the front door open? Hard to tell. If not, I noticed an un-Porsche-like panel gap.
Thank you for a great video. Well organized, well presented and informative. Two questions, hopefully you can answer. Can I charge a Taycan at home with a 30 amp/240 volt circuit using a Nema 14/30 plug? If so how long will it take to charge to 80%? Thank you for your help Steven
Hi Tom; wonderful video. I have a question for you. I have Tesla and a Taycan with the regular battery. I use the small TeslaTap at home to charge my Taycan using the Tesla wall charger. At work we have three large ChargePoint stations (free). Each station has two cables (one in each side). The right sided cable is designed to use for Tesla vehicles through an adaptor also provided by ChargePoint (this is what most people use). The left sided cable is the DC charging that I can use in my Taycan (on the right port), however the cable is so short that I cannot plug in the right charging port of my car. I am wondering if I can use my TeslaTap adaptor (the one I use at home) and plug in at the end of the Tesla adaptor and then plug into my right port of my Taycan. In other words, the right sided cable into the Tesla connector and the Tesla connector into my TeslaTap adaptor to be plugged into the right sided port of my Taycan. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Tom. What is the length of the cable on the standard charger that comes with the Taycan? My friend has a ranch with a RV 240 50amp plug and I’ll need to a park about 15 feet away so 8 feet won’t cut it. I’m close to ordering a Taycan RWD.
Tom, beautiful presentation for a beginner like me. Explained everything in minute detail and your voice is not boring at all even though video is 45 mts long. Just bought a Taycan and was about to install a 240 V but figured out that I can use my Tesla home charger with an adapter. Thank You
Tom, This video has been a tremendous help. I have a new Taycan CT 4S on allocation and have opted to go wit the standard mobile charger rather than the optional mobile connect version. I have been advised that the mounting bracket is no longer included. Question is: Should I go ahead and purchase the Chargepoint Home Flex (to get max 11kw per your previous comments) or pay for the mounting bracket?
Great video. So I have to buy the optional mobile charger connect if I want to precondition the car, start and stop charging remotely, and to check battery status? That sounds very odd because Tesla can do this via the car as opposed to via an optional cable. Could you clarify? Thank you.
There are a couple of corrections I need to point out. During the video, I say the Taycan is the only EV with two charge ports, and that's not correct, the Audi e-tron (also from VW Group) also has two charge ports - one on either side of the vehicle.
Additionally, I said there are no 400-v DC fast chargers in the US that can deliver more than 50 kW. The fact is there are a few of them - very few, and I maintain that the 150 kW 400v DC Fast charge option is still definitely not worth it. There are probably around 4,000 DC fast chargers currently in the US, and likely less than 20 that are 400-Volt and can deliver more than 50 kW - and most of them can deliver 80 kW or 100 kW, not 150 kW.
Finally, I'm happy to report that you can get the Mobile Charger Connect with a longer 25' cable at no extra cost. I highly recommend you opt for the longer cable if you buy the Mobile Charger Connect.
Ha ha! Right after you said that I thought, "Pretty sure I've seen some 400v that do 80+kW on PlugShare!" I agree it's absolutely not worth the near $500 part. Good correction! ;)
So are all the EA 150kw 800v?
@@realMysta Yep, actually up to 900v
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney nice, glad I watched, just assumed the 150kw chargers were 400v
(And had that in my build)
I'm in the market for a Taycan, fantastic review you answered a lot of my questions.
That's exactly why I'm watching this video as well 😎😉✌️
Glad it helped!
Don’t buy it if you haven’t bought it yet.
@@Joakimjohannessen Canceled my order long ago, soon to take delivery of a Tesla MS.
@@Joakimjohannessen why not
You won’t find this comprehensive info on the Taycan charging anywhere else! FYI, the Audi e-tron has similar charging ports on both sides of car as well. Great video, Tom 👍
Ahh, damnit, I forget the e-tron! 😐
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney You made a fantastic video, Tom! It's more comprehensive than anyone else has gotten close to making!
@@mitchellbarnow1709 Thank you!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney You are very welcome
Could be a shorter video…. Just the facts, please. Refer to your earlier video about chargers, and just talk about the Taycan.
brilliant video, exactly what I needed to get my Taycan journey started. THANK YOU TOM!
Great video. I am in the UK where I can connect the car directly into a Tesla wall charger or destination charger via the type 2 plug. Just fyi
James, not sure if the charging is the same here in the states, but I live in an area where Tesla chargers are readily available, and will probably have to rely on this as my primary local station - do you think I'll be OK?
I absolutely love that this video exists! 45 well spent minutes. Thank you Sir 🙏🏼
A thorough review of a topic that's more complicated than it should be, and closeups of a beautiful vehicle too! Thanks Tom!
Excellent video, a lot of useful and relevant information even for European owners!
This was amazing! After reading my Taycan manual I was so confused. This is super helpful. Thank You!
That OEM Porsche mobile charger is a fat pig for $1100. Just get a Tesla mobile connector with a TeslaTap.. or do some research on how to get a Jesla mobile connector. That’ll be half the cost of that overweight Porsche connector. WiFi is overrated, as this can be programmed remotely on app.
Very grateful for this comprehensive Taycan EV charging video, quite helpful even for me here in Japan, where things are a wee bit more confusing. CHAdeMo anyone?
Hey Tom thanks for the video, very helpful. I just ordered the cross truismo and I need to have a charger installed in my office. There will be a couple of teslas using the charger as well but I wanted to know which Level 2 charger you think would be best?
Tom, my 2019 Kia Niro (64kw) owners manual says “Battery performance and durability can deteriorate if the DC charger is used constantly. Use of DC charge should be minimized in order to help prolong high voltage battery life” is that a recommendation to minimize DC for all EV’s to follow or just Kias? I have installed a Flo X5 on a 40 amp circuit but have internally restricted the X5 charge rate to 16amps/240v (3.8kw/hr) which charges my NIRO overnight to 80% to maximize my battery life. Is that a recommended Best Practice in EV charging?
Frequent DC Fast charging will help to accelerate battery degradation, but I stress the word "frequent". If you charge at home on level 2 daily, and once or twice a month you DC fast charge then you have nothing to worry about. As for lower amperage, while charging on level 2, most battery experts will tell you charging on 16-amps or 32-amps will make no difference at all. The enemy is heat, and level 2 charging - even at the vehicle's full charging rate just doesn't generate enough heat to cause a problem.
It's actually more important to try not to charge in the summer if the car is baking in very hot ambient temperatures (95F and above). Try to let the car cool off a bit in the garage before charging if you've been driving it in extremely hot weather for a while. Set the delayed charge timer and let the car charge overnight when it's cooler.
Tom, you rock this one, very informative! 👍..
Best charging 101 video yet.. happy you keep it to just the 3 plug types that truly matter .. soon will just be the 2 ..
BTW the eTron also have 2 charge ports .. identical setup as the Taycan ..
Yup - a few other people reminded me about that. I haven't driven the e-Tron since it first came out and I never had one on press loan to do charging tests, so I fumbled that one!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney no worries.. it’s like a $500 option if I remember correctly..most people may not get it that option anyways lol .. Tom I got to say you got a talent for making things so easier to understand.. I made a video about how to charge the eTron off a generator.. I have not posted it yet but I think I am just no good at explaining things lol 😂 .. I think you should make a video for this .. it’s a great idea for emergency .. 10-11kW top up on the side of the road ..
@@fullyelectric ya gotta start somewhere, I still have a lot to improve on. You should post it.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you are right as always ... I’ll see to sort it .. I also made another video showing how to use the eTron MMI to map only HPC chargers during a navigated route .. something Kyle was trying todo in the eTron he has for a bit .. he gave me the idea .. no one seems to have done a useful deep dive into the eTron ..
Thank you for answering all my charging concerns and questions. This is the definitive video for anyone who needs to understand how to charge or pay for charging your Taycan.
Great video - well done! Finally someone who knows what they are talking about when it comes to charing.
Required watching for anyone looking at a Taycan.
I'm telling you, yeah we are seeing more electric cars on the road, especially Teslas, but until they simplify this ENTIRE process of charging so that the "average" consumer can FIRST understand it then second make it aa fast as gasing up at a gas station, ICE cars are here to stay. Period.
FYI Tom, Porsche's request for permission to access personal charging data is most likely due EU Data Protection compliance regulations which can be quite stringent and rather than make their equipment software different for different markets, it was standardised.
Every Taycan owner should watch this video. They will learn more about charging their car from Tom than any dealer. Even as a Tesla owner, I learned several charging facts. High power EV source equipment must wait battery technology to catch up. Even if you charge at a Tesla V3-250 kw station, the batteries can only handle that power for about a minute. When they can handle that amount of power for 15 minutes without damaging the battery, we’ll get 250 mi of charging based on 1000 mph.
Awesome, Awesome video. Thanks!! Can you tell me where I can buy the short black adapter??
Great video, thanks! The Tesla Destination chargers can be locked so they only work with a Tesla - please look for the sign next to the destination charger: red background = locked, white background = open to all vehicles. Around here, it will be open to all vehicles if Tesla provides the destination charger for free and the property owner pays for the install. If Tesla paid for everything (the install as well as providing the destination charger for free), they will have the red sign indicating Tesla vehicles only. For bigger installs, half of them typically are open to all vehicles.
Excellent video! I have a Model X 2020 but am thinking about getting the Taycan. It is great to know that I can use my Tesla home charger with the Taycan and adapter.
Thank you for amazing video
Another great video. I have a basic question. You mentioned that this car comes with a 40 amp level 2 charger . Will this car also work with a 30 amp level 2 charger? Is there a safety feature in the level 2 charger that prevents this vehicle trying to draw too much power out of it?
Yes, it will work just fine. When you plug the connector into the car there's a communication process where basically, the car asks the charger how much power it can deliver. It then requests the maximum the charger can deliver and it can accept. So the Taycan would just ask for 30-amps for a 30-amp EVSE.
Nice video. Requires the Kyle Out of Spec road trip style; arrive at 2% charge to 50% then move on to the next charger.
Hi Tom, great review, thanks. I've read that the e-tron GT has the same AC charge port (so max 11 kW) but that an upcoming 'update' may increase that to 22 kW. Can you get 22 kW from a home wall charger in the US?
If you wire up a Clipper Creek CS-100, can support up to 80A. If you are at home, 240VL-L * 80A = 19.2kW.
Excellent Video! Thanks for breaking things down in detail.
Thank you for clarifying the 400v 50kw vs 150kw charger situation. I saw that option on the Porsche configurator, and was a bit confused about it.
Great video. Super thorough. Thanks for making it!
Porsche offers an optional 15ft cord for the Mobile Charger Connect unit. Great video and information - well done.
Tom off topic question i noted evgo Twitter add that looked to have a Tesla proprietary connector. Was that a video edit?
No, it was correct. EVgo reached an agreement with Tesla to add Tesla Connectors to its DC fast chargers.
You have a nice, well educated group of people that watch this channel. Everywhere else you will find people bitching and complain that Tesla does not let everyone use their chargers Tesla has spent an incredible fortune building out their charing network before there were even cars to use them and they are greatly expanding their DC charging stations. Everyone else is waiting for things to come along just the way that gas stations were built to fuel the new horseless carriages. I should say that Rivian said that they will have charging so that their customers can take long trips in the backcountry. I don't know if I got that correctly or if things have changed?
Rivian has promised to install some charging and remote areas but they haven't really given us a full plan and to what extent they're willing to invest in it.
what a wonderful guide. thank you! as for the mobile charger connect, you can option it with 25ft cable at no cost.
Great video and thanks for providing all the valuable information and advice. I ordered the Taycan with the 150kw option that will apparently only provide valuable to Porsche's bottom line. Thanks for this advice though. Two other points, Porsche's Intelligent charger comes with a profile configuration that will only take your vehicle to an 80% charge. This is better for the battery if one is travelling short distances. To achieve 100% charge, you just turn the profile setting off. WIth the shortage of new vehicles, if you order a Taycan, one of the features is a charging cable that is 7.5 meters long. It is still a $0 cost option and allows full flexibility for charging multiple vehicles in one garage, either port.
Fantastic, exactly what I was looking for.
Hi Tom, I have a confirmed allocation for a RWD Taycan with a freeze date in early February. Given the controversy generated by Alex Voight's article in Teslarati regarding the on board high voltage charger, would you buy a Taycan at this point in time?
Very informative video! I saw it was 45 min long and thought it was full of fluff, but you get straight to the point and go thru every detail I could imagine.
I get annoyed with 20 min videos on how to cook a 3 min egg haha!
Thank you so much for posting this video... it was really educational!!👍🙂
Great video, except for your pronunciation of the word Porsche. It’s Porsh-sha. 😍
Tom, you can order a 25 foot charging cord as a free option. Afterwards if you want to buy the 25 foot cable it is $800+. I would like to see your experiences using the Porsche app at EA stations. I find it frustratingly complicated as I have a 2020 Taycan 4 S without plug and charge capability. In the future our older cars may get plug & charge capability, Keep up the good work. The Porsche mobile charger connect has been reduced in charging current to 20 amps due to unit and cable heating problems,
Tom, I recently had the 22 KW on board charger upgrade installed in my 2020 Taycan 4S. I now have the ability to do plug and charge. The upgrade kit with installation runs between $5K -$7K depending upon the skill of the Porsche dealer. I thought this upgrade was cheaper than buying a newer Taycan.
Keep up the good work.
Great video, very informative. In the UK the onboard charger option allow for 22kw charging provided that you have 3 phase supply.
the 150kw 400V charging option is very cheap and would be useful if Tesla opened up the supercharger network to non-teslas. Otherwise you'd be stuck at 50kw at a tesla supercharger. But for those who never plan on that or wont keep their car long enough before Elon decides to do so, then yeah i guess save ur money
thank you this video will be useful for me when I can afford this car 20 years from now
Thanks for the video, it clearly took a lot of effort. As somebody that's considering a Taycan, I've gotta say the charging looks bulky, clunky and ill thought out. I'll still be heading to the dealer to see what it's like in person, but the idea of charging $1000 dollars for a hideous dongle on a short cable is embarrassing.
Really helpful but I need help. I bought TeslaTap 80 amp for my Tesla Destination charger that’s capped at 80 amps. Plugged Taycan in and it tripped breaker in ten minutes then did it again. What is going on?
OK, where is the Destination charger installed?
Great video! very helpful. I am about to purchase a 2024 Taycan 4s and since i already own a Tesla, I have the Tesla Wall Connector. I won't be buying a Porsche wall connector equivalent so I was looking for an adapter on Amazon. The Lectron you talked about in this video is of the older gen and now Lectron makes the Tesla to J1772 Adapter with a max of 48 Amp. I wanted to know based on your expertise, that adapter should be just fine to use on the Taycan with the existing Tesla Wall Connector right? The Tesla Wall Connector output is a max of 48 amp and this Lectron is also rated max of 48Amp. Appreciate your time!
Thank you sooo much for this video. I just purchased the Porsche Taycan a few days ago and frustrated with the short cable length on the charger. I never thought about a 3rd party charge equipment until now. Also the app suggestion is much appreciated!!
Glad I could help. Enjoy the Taycan, it's an awesome car!
Tom - Want to use the SPLIT VOLT unit with dryer outlet. I believe I need to set the Porsche Connect Charger to 24 amps. Please advise if this acceptable.
Thanks, Jeff K.
Also if the charger I get is 50 amp and Taycan max amp limit is 48 Amp , that won’t damage the battery? Should I get 48 Amp charger only?
Thanks
I know you think at 12:30 the 400/150kw option is not something you approve of. Apart from the new Tesla info, I had accepted this as true. I spoke to an EA rep and it seems that some of their 150kw chargers are 400 volt architecture and the used 2022 Taycan CT4S I purchased (which does not have the upgraded onboard charger) would only charge at 50kw. I am not convinced that there are a lot of EA fast chargers that are 400 volt architecture. Do you have some definitive info on that? Would this also apply to EVGo and Chargepoint?
It is a great video and information. I just got a Taycan. I also concern about over loading our power panel in my house. I need to know about power meter management device that can control home EV charger get power depend power consumption at house. Could you please advise me on this or if you have a video about it send me the link?
Thank
Kevin
What about the elephant in the room? - the Taycan battery damaging, cheap, onboard charger issue? Reports, especially from a Porsche whistle blower and others, seem to confirm that Porsche continue to ship around 60% Taycans with this built-in problem. As reported by The Electric Viking - Sam Evans recently.
Fantastic video. You just saved me $1580 on my build!
I've had a Lectron Tesla to J1772 adaptor for four months working well. My Tesla wall charger is set to 48amps on a 60amp circuit breaker. It was working perfectly on delayed charging (TOU). Now all of a sudden it only works on direct charging. My scheduled charging now gives me a red light. I have not clue why? Any thoughts? Tonight I noticed it did not start charging at 10pm (my start time). I unplugged the Tesla plug from the adaptor and put it back in and it started working. I'm confused. Help.
The Lectron adapter isn't rated for 48-amps, I thank you fried something inside. I really need to match those adapters to the power you want them to deliver. TeslaTap makes higher-powered units for charging at over 32-amps.
This shouldn't be a 45 minute video... look at Tesla.. plug it in.. done. Porsche needs to get their charging game together. They need to just join up with Tesla and get the Tesla connector installed on all of their vehicles. Then Porsche can also use the Superchager network and it'll be easier for everybody! Why does everyone need their own connector. Just admit, Tesla won here and go with them. That's what I'd do.
Here is proof that this level of detail in a video is needed: while at an EA charger in CA. a former Tesla owner who switched to a Taycan was struggling to charge his car, giving up after a few minutes of trying to force the CCS plug into the charge port. He had left the protective dongle cap in. He also did not know about 350kW EA chargers or how to tell them apart from 150kW. Your video addressed both issues.
Please reconsider referring to chargers as "400V" and "800V". That is determined by the car's pack voltage - the chargers themselves are usually 500V or 980-1000V. It matters if pack voltage is over 400V and
Hi Mike. I've given that thought, and I'm trying to explain this in relatively simple terms so most can understand - it's also why I don't ca home charging equipment EVSE - even though that's technically the proper term. But I accept your recommendation and will consider it in the future.
Hello,
Quick question my mobile charges connected through 240v and has been working great for a year, but now it's blinking red, even before its plugged into the car.
Can recommend resolution.
I understand electricity for EV’s is free. How do I alert my power company that the 50amp circuit should be subtracted from my monthly bill?
Where can I get the 20ft. or 25ft. charging cable for the mobile charger that came with my 2025 Taycan?
Great advice. Thank you.
So if Tesla opens up there charging network like they try in the Netherlands right now, and you don't have the 400V fast charging option, than you have really lost. Tesla is 400V system as far as I know.
Sorry I missed this if you mentioned it but If I don’t drive the Taycan for a few days or a week (On Vacation) will the battery’s lose their charge?
That struggle time zone charge of 80%-100% how would you resolve or improve the charge what can be done
SUPER informative. Thank you very much 👍
Definitely the best EV .
Are you saying to buy a longer cord. Or is their something the customer needs to do to adapt to 30 amp power? Porsche Taycan
Thank you for this video. Very well done
Tesla supercharger is 400 or 800 Volts ?
How much to install a nema 14-50 ? Couple hundred dollars LOL
Tom
I noticed you did not mention the optional 19.2 kw charger which is an expensive option BUT would seem to be an unnecessary option based on what I hear you saying
BTW Thanks for a very good overall explanation for what Porsche has turned into a difficult to understand very expensive possibly unnecessary group of E-options
A 19.2 kW charger will require a 100A circuit - which is a tall order for most home electrical systems.
So i have come to learn....I am shopping this car now in florida and every single dealer is loading this option with their Taycans. Actually after watching this i am having difficulty bringing myself to order the mobile connect charger especially if the home charger they include at no charge with the car is adequate at home. I already owned and sold my Etron which i think has the same included connector as the standard Porsche unit and had no issues. Toms video seems to confirms this
huh? America doesn't have 400V chargers over 50kW? so if a Model 3 plugs into an Electrify America station it will charge at 50kW? or do u mean to say that Electrify America is the only provider with 150kW chargers and they also have an 800V charger at their locations?
All of Electrify America's stations are 800v-900v systems, not 400v, even the 150 kW units
Damn, those are some huge wheels on that car.
They aren't even the biggest option.
Thanks for the informative video. I have a question I hope you can answer as I’ve heard conflicting opinions. I have a 2022 Taycan and a NEMA 14-50 charger for my garage. A place I visit frequently has a TT30 type RV outlet. Can I just buy a male TT30 to female 14-50 adapter and be good to go? Or does this risk blown breaker or fire?
Fantastic Tom. And thanks for the index. Very helpful
Does your opinion on opting in for the 150 kW/400V change if Tesla opens up SC?
I saw this comment and was curious
Some would suggest getting the On-Board 150 kW/400V DC Charger from E-Mobility in case future use of Tesla Super Chargers becomes an option.
Sir. The argument I hear about the need to option the 150kw/400v option is because it will allow us to use the Tesla Superchargers when Elon opens them up. Your thoughts? And while a nice insurance blanket. Not sure if needed. Especially since it does look like EA is improving. Thanks for your great work
Now that Tesla has actually started to add CCS adapters to some of their Tesla Superchargers in North America (400V > 150kW) I think it now makes perfect sense to get that 150kW option on the Taycan.
Hi, thanks for the video. I’m an electrician and recently installed a 50 amp circuit with a 14-50 outlet for a customer’s 2021 Taycan. It’s working fine. Now, when she visits her brother, who has a 30 amp circuit, it keeps tripping the breaker. What could be going wrong here. Thanks for any info that you could supply.
Tom, now that it appears that Tesla will open many of their DC chargers to non Teslas, is it advisable to spec the 400-v DC option for Taycans? Thanks and I appreciate all the great advice on your site.
Yes, definitely
There is a new Porsche Wall Connect charger out. I am looking for information regarding its charging output if it is on a 60 amp breaker therefore limited to pulling 48 amps. Can you tell me how many kwh it will hit with that setup? Thanks
14:46 did not age well. You told people to cripple their car's ability to charge to save 460 dollars. Now those people can't use tesla ccs capable superchargers which will outnumber all the other ccs chargers that are 150kw or faster by the end of 2023. Turns out dealers were smarter than you.
hi tom, i used to have panamera hybrid and had a nema 6-50. I now have a tesla which i bought a converter they sell for $30 so i plug in at home--no problem..is there a converter for the taycan i can buy to convert the 14-50 to my 6-50 outlet? thx
Great practical video. Nice to have information that is not anecdotal and can be applied every day.
But what encouraged you to by a Taycan given your past experience with EV's? Not necessarily the cheapest option out there.
I would love to be able to afford a Taycan! I had this one on a media loan. I get all of the EVs for a week or so. Up next is the ID.4, then a Mustang Mach-E. I own a dual-motor Model 3 because I think it's the best overall value for a long-range EV today. If money was no consideration, I'd probably have a Taycan. I've driven the Turbo, the Turbo S, and now the 4S and they are all fantastic vehicles, IMO.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney looking forward to your ID.4 review.. I had considered looking into that as I liked the SUV like setup and the lower cost.. Anyhow, I ended up getting a 2019 Tesla M3 SR+, it’s on the way..😁👍🏾 But your channel is great, lots of info for that EV newbie like me.. Should I invest in the installation of a 14-50 adaptor and get the $35 Tesla 14-50 adapter?
Great video, Tom 👏🏼. You certainly saved me some money on my Taycan 4S build. Not sure if it has been addressed, but is the 19.2 kW On-Board Charger option in worth it? Thank you.
Great video Tom. I will never be able to afford a Taycan, but a lot of your info for public charging stations applies to other cars too. At 36:10, close up of charge port, was the front door open? Hard to tell. If not, I noticed an un-Porsche-like panel gap.
That's a design feature, Pete. Look @43:05 and you'll see it.
Never say never!! You will be able to afford one!! Putting positive vibes out there for you 💪🏽
I can't believe you didn't go into Profiles and Timers.
Great information. Thank you!
Thank you for a great video. Well organized, well presented and informative. Two questions, hopefully you can answer.
Can I charge a Taycan at home with a 30 amp/240 volt circuit using a Nema 14/30 plug? If so how long will it take to charge to 80%?
Thank you for your help
Steven
I have a customer who has only 30 amp 220v nema 14-50 outlet. The breaker trips. Wiring is correct at both points. What can we do to correct situation
I’m commenting here just to say thank you for saving me $460 dollars. I never knew that information about the 400v architecture. ❤
Hi Tom; wonderful video. I have a question for you. I have Tesla and a Taycan with the regular battery. I use the small TeslaTap at home to charge my Taycan using the Tesla wall charger. At work we have three large ChargePoint stations (free). Each station has two cables (one in each side). The right sided cable is designed to use for Tesla vehicles through an adaptor also provided by ChargePoint (this is what most people use). The left sided cable is the DC charging that I can use in my Taycan (on the right port), however the cable is so short that I cannot plug in the right charging port of my car. I am wondering if I can use my TeslaTap adaptor (the one I use at home) and plug in at the end of the Tesla adaptor and then plug into my right port of my Taycan. In other words, the right sided cable into the Tesla connector and the Tesla connector into my TeslaTap adaptor to be plugged into the right sided port of my Taycan. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Tom. What is the length of the cable on the standard charger that comes with the Taycan? My friend has a ranch with a RV 240 50amp plug and I’ll need to a park about 15 feet away so 8 feet won’t cut it. I’m close to ordering a Taycan RWD.
Tom, beautiful presentation for a beginner like me. Explained everything in minute detail and your voice is not boring at all even though video is 45 mts long. Just bought a Taycan and was about to install a 240 V but figured out that I can use my Tesla home charger with an adapter. Thank You
Could you please learn to say Porsche. Thank you. It's not the thing on the back of the house where gandpa Buck sits with his Mossberg.
You can pronounce it anyway you'd like in your videos! Cheers!
Tom, This video has been a tremendous help. I have a new Taycan CT 4S on allocation and have opted to go wit the standard mobile charger rather than the optional mobile connect version. I have been advised that the mounting bracket is no longer included. Question is: Should I go ahead and purchase the Chargepoint Home Flex (to get max 11kw per your previous comments) or pay for the mounting bracket?
Tom, The name of the car is pronounced Por-sha (two syllables) per the Taycan Quick Start Guide, page 6.
Great video. So I have to buy the optional mobile charger connect if I want to precondition the car, start and stop charging remotely, and to check battery status? That sounds very odd because Tesla can do this via the car as opposed to via an optional cable. Could you clarify? Thank you.
Super helpful, Thanks.
Tom. Is it true that I can charge my Taycan anywhere I can get access to a 240V 50 amp laundry dryer outlet? That would make a huge difference.
Tom, how do you open this chargeport door when the vehicle battery(12v) is dead?
Crowbar? I don't know but I'll ask Porsche the next time we talk.