Ingersoll VS Harbor Freight Earth Quake
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2024
- Ingersoll VS Harbor Freight Earth Quake, Ingersoll has a one inch electric impact that they purport 2,600 ft. lbs of torque, it costs 1,400 dollars. Harbor Freight has a one inch air impact that they purport 2,500 ft. lbs. of torque at a cost of 289 dollars, lets see which one is the better value
I don't turn wrenches for a living, but I am in commercial construction. Lately I have noticed that the legacy companies are not the same as they once were. Personally, I think they aren't hungry like they were. I think the sons and grandsons are more about profit than quality and customer loyalty. I'm not at all surprised that the HF outperformed the IR. Thanks for documenting all this for us.
when it comes down to it you can never go wrong with air tools over battery
Someone I know told me I needed to try this Earth Quake 1/2 inch impact so I bought one. I was so impressed with it that I bought the 3/4 inch EQ impact as well. They work great for me. Until someone shows me a better impact the Earth Quake is the one I will be using until it dies
You could do a “Will It Start” on the ol’ White. I spent a lot of time in my formative years driving a truck exactly like it. Brings back a lot of memories with my dad and grandpa.
Thanks for making excellent, real, non-scripted videos.
I like this idea if Jeff has 5 or 300 minutes to give it a go.
The sound difference in the hammer mechanisms speaks volumes ,the battery one sounds like a 1/2 gun😂
I have had a HF 1” impact for about 30 years now and it has never let me down.
Thank you for the Demo!
Warren Rodgers from western truck and tractor went back to air
Great video Jeff always enjoy watching you do comparison of electric over air. Dealing with large old Iron that been together for many years air usually wins the hammers in that electric impact just didn't sound right. Always been a believer in Harbor freight 1 inch guns. Looking good on that track frame. The Galion Crane comes in hand for removing those roller thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
Jay, when I worked for Dow Chemical in S Texas years ago, we had big stuff to take apart, we had big stuff to work with. For 5 inch studs on heat exchangers, we had a 3" drive impact that ran off a large Ingersol compressor. All our teeth would shake,, the ground would shake, and then the nut would come off. I wish you had it for a day. Hang in and win, partner.
Thanks for the show Jeff 🍻 🇦🇺
Another great video bro, the bit about the impacts was intersecting.Safe travels. Ken.
i was trying to get my swing motor bolts out on a hitachi 230 couldnt get them out with 8ft pipe bought same air impact and once i got a 1" hose on it they came out on the first few blows no comparison with manual attempt... not a thing of beauty but it hits hard
great video - all true
IR customer service bought their company a ton of bad advertising to save the cost of replacing/repairing a $1,400 tool?
I have a 1” drive that is a Dayton from grainger and I feed it with either a 3/4” or 1” hose with twist lock and pin couplings. and my compressor is set around 175-185 psi. For a cheaper gun it’s done a lot of work in 20 years. Plus I’ve broke 2 6” mechanic vises bolted on to my trucks bumper taking nuts off large cylinder rods, it hits that hard. You can definitely feel it later after a few hours running it. Pretty much all my air tools are Ingersoll, but I was in a pinch when I bought this one. But it’s proven to be a stout tool.
Yeah I've got a HF 1" Earthquake and am pleased with it, needed it for removing hyd. cylinder rod bolts on my backhoe. A large dia. and short air hose makes quite a difference.
Interesting demo 👍
So this ol Cat mechanic I enjoyed that video a lot and I knew I had a brake job coming up on a 988F and was gonna have to lug the wheels that have been on there for 20 years so I bought a earthquake. Well the young guy hired to help me for a few days had the newest latest and greatest Milwaukee electric tire impact and we ran through the same deal in earthquake kick everybody’s ass!
Action speaks much louder than words!
That’s an excellent test of the 1” guns❤
Them 1inch earthquakes at 175psi, will make you face sockets in the lathe.
I’ve got a Proto with #5 spline drive for anvil so it takes special sockets but you have minimal torque loss through the anvil. I regularly put 2-3/4 inch sockets on it and it slams like no other.
Your old IR just sounded tired. I was thinking a rebuild until you mentioned that parts had been replaced. I had never though of access issues with the long shaft on the EQ but I'm thinking that waiting on a compressor to build the PSI's back is always going to be a shorter time than batteries recharging. Just don't bust a gut lifting that EQ shoulder high all afternoon. Always enjoy your videos!
At work we use the Stanley 1" drive hydraulic impacts and those produce 500 ft lbs @ 7gpm-2500 ft lbs @ 12gpm, price varies between $3200 to $5000 each.
I ran air tools right up to the last couple of years of my career when I bought a couple of the red electric tools.
The electric were okay but when I had a big job going on it was always the air tools.
If you have a compressor that can keep up, it is air all the way for me.
Hi Jeff i think you may be able to switch the trigger round on the Earth Quake so that it is inside the handle instead of on the outside. They are better to operate that way. Loving the Cat repair stuff awesome stuff keep it up.
Glad to see you're enjoying that old crane. It was a lot of work but I'm sure it will serve you well. You need to get a covered shelter for it.
Electric is nice, but it can't hang with good air tools.
I admit to being an old curmudgeon, but I’ve never bought into the whole battery powered tool thing. It’s ok for a 3/8” drill or a 1/4” impact driver, but for really heavy duty stuff air is the go to. Stands to reason that a big shop air compressor puts out more power than a little battery.
Yes!
Milwaukee makes a hard hitting impact, Bluetooth connectable guns can have preset torques programmed into it too. Was pretty impressed with the one inch, own the smaller guns and love them.
Love that inner grind,wasn't able to find it on your music link you sent me! Could you send more info?
Experience tells me that certain tools from harbor freight are top tier while others are not. That speaks for any brand though. Great video Jeff.
The last few years I have worked in the oil and gas industry we started using Rad guns in high torque applications. They are a substantial investment but they will make short work out of a job like track rollers!
Id oil that earthquake often in appreciation of its might.
Im thinking the bounce of the long shank is a big help on that earthquake
Love the hat and stickers Jeff, thanks mucho grande
I got Milwaukee 1 in I love it
You most certainly have your mind dead set on getting the job done
AND doing a good job at the same time
in a no nonsense kind of way Jeff
It is most heartening to see that you NEVER give up
and always find a way through ~ somehow
Great stuff
Just super resiliance and magnificent attitude, mindset to your work
EXCELLENT ‼️
Touché ‼️⁉️🥂
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Battery operated tools are for toys to keep girls happy
When you need to work on big boy toys go air every time
I had an IR 1/2" electric gun that was nothing but problems for me. The trigger on mine quit working first, then both of the batteries wouldn't charge. Ingersoll was no help to me either, so I gave up and bought a Milwaukee, which walked all over the IR gun with no problems to date. Friend of mine bought a new 3/8" IR air ratchet and I watched him take it out of the box, put a 9/16" socket on it, slide under his truck, and promptly twisted the anvil right off of it with one bolt. Got a new anvil for it and I fixed it for him, but he was mad and said he will never buy another. I also have an older 1" IR extended anvil air gun that really hits hard that I wouldn't trade for anything, so go figure. I got a little stubby Air Cat 1/2" drive gun I absolutely love and use every day that puts my IR guns to shame. I believe Florida Pneumatic makes Air Cat and I also have some of their other air tools that I really like. I used to be of the mind that you get what you pay for, but now I'm thinking not so much anymore.
Hobo Frieght's Earthquake impact guns are a surprisinly good find. My expieriance with electrics below 50% battery, stop and recharge, air guns need all the air volume and a higher pressure. So bigger, shorter hoses, with the pressure regulator turned up to as much as the compressor/gun will take
I was thinking about electric tools, .......I am glad I only thought about it, I hear some have gone back to the airline and real tools. The battery stuff discarded. It might be ok to use a battery powered tool for some car applications and new stuff, but really tight stuff needs real tools.
I will have to look what my big Ingersoll is. It is strong but its not a big one. I got it specifically because its only like an inch longer than my 1/2 2135TiMax The best 1/2" air gun on the planet. That being said we run 175psi line pressure to all our impacts. I think my big IR is rated at 2000ft-lbs in reverse and 1600forward and that is at 90psi. You run a 1/2"hose and 175 and its a beast. I take wheels off combines with it that are torque with a torque multiplier at 1200ft-lb. For its size and weight I consider it a must have. It probably not as stout as the big anvil guns but it only needs like 9" to fit in not 2 foot.
How do you really know the undo torque, I trusted IR and me thinks they exaggerate a wee bit, as there is no standard testing method, everyone does it different, the best method is in field testing, when I take of the other track frame, one side will be the IR side and the other Hobo Freight then we'll see who's king, by the way I'm getting guys saying I can't compare air to electric and I say torque is torque, what say you?
That's impressive
air hose size makes all the difference, You also have a ancient ingersol. We run titaniums on chicagos lines at work at 100psi and they hit hard. air hose flow and diameter make all th difference. a 1" titanium ingersol on a 3/4 vs 1" at 100psi hit totally different. Honestly at work we just go to 1 1/2 when the 1" doesnt touch it, then go get the hot wrench and then the big girl. sometimes hydraulics dont even work. I turn wrenches for living on power plants. Cfm and hose size make a difference.
That's true, but torque is torque and IR has claimed 2,600, maybe I'm getting more from my hobo freight at 200 psi and the 3/4 hose but they claim 2,500, I argued with an IR rep about air pressure , he claimed that you don't get any more torque above what the gun is rated for, what do you think about what he said
Looks like I am going to Harbor Freight for a new impact!!
I’m catching this video on Saturday 4/6 - nice to watch with a cup of coffee. Starting to feel tired watching Jeff work!
Jeff what kind of material did you build you door yard with? Looks like a stone dust type material? Layered pretty deep?
Thanks for sharing sir!
door? floor? well the gravel is a 3/4 minus crushed, same material we call pit run but crushed
Jeff, have you seen the reviews that The Torque Test Channel does? Real tests, real tools from ALL the brands, completely unsponsored. You might want to take a look at them. The Red 1" guns were at the top of the chart last time I looked. Sorry about the IR...
I have the hobofreight gun. I haven't found anything it won't loosen or break. But I do not like the trigger needs a little heavier spring to make it less touchy
the torque test channel on UA-cam tests all kind of air tools and the latest battery stuff. they are a little crazy and put weed eater engines on hammer drills etc. they even make up "special" battery packs to really test motors.
Ingersoll and the big 3 must use the same battery technology!
I got a off brand 1 Inch air with 4 sockets about 10 years ago for $165.00 It does fine for my 33mm truck lug nuts.
I use 3/4 milwaukee with 8h battery. Never let's me down.
DCF961 FTW!
Gives new Anderson Engineering and testing LLC.
Flow is much more important than pressure, all guns have their flow rating right on the tag. You have a good hose setup. Most guys run damn quick connects which restict flow massively.
Hi My Dear Friend Very Good Job ❤❤❤❤❤
A little oil on the gun also makes or breaks it! The electric battery stuff has mixed results.
I’ve been looking for a enerpac hydraulic setup for bolts like that
Be interesting to see if the EQ hooked up to the 1/2 line would spin one of them off.
The patina on the white is amazing. I wish I was closer
well get in the car and get closer LOL
Man that Gallion works like a champion, but you sure do need a swamper.
Hey Jeff if ya wanna see what the electric cordless guns do check out the torque test channel on UA-cam. He tests everything w torque dynos.
I went all milwaukee 6 years ago, and I haven't touched an air tool again. Some people just have better luck with battery tools I guess
Do keep in mind those rated torques you specify on the air guns are at 90 PSI, you're pushing a lot more air than that. That Earthquake gun is a heck of a buy.
Don't blame you Jeff , I would be pissed too.
Can you put a breaker bar and a bit of tube (6 foot or similar) and pull on the end of the tube with a hanging scale. Post the length of the tube and how many pounds or kg it takes to break a track frame bolt loose
Did the Torque test channel review the ingersoll rand?
I got Ingersoll air tools. Went to Mawakie Electric. Back to my air the battery's not cheap on Mawakie the locks on the impact don't hold when using bigger battery. If the truck can't get there its time for battery.
Atta boy Jeff!
I was told, years ago, by both Cleco and Armstrong, tha spline drive tools and sockets delivered 20% more torque to fastners than square drive. Availability of both tools and sockets was the drawback.
The ol hobo come in there for ya tho ..... Ingersoll that surprised me f....n junk👍👍👌
If people think Milwaukee could take those bolts out, see if the local sales rep will bring one out to try on the second track frame.
The remote control technology wasn’t too great on those 60? Year old cranes, was it? I guess that’s why crane operators get the big bucks.
I enjoy the projects and the hard work.
Be interesting to see if the Milwaukie 1" battery impact would do better than the Ingersoll?
A #VGG special on the Super White Power "Will it run and drive 1,000+ miles?"
Just a suggestion u mught wanna get a wind sock for your mic to cut the wind noise
It said Nut-Busting Torque... LOL
Dang Jeff, i am exhausted after watching Your swamper bounce on and off the Galion. Best Wishes to everyone.
The battery gun loosened em up for you 😅
I remember when Ingersoll Rand was considered a "good" brand, as you said they are all made by one company and different stickers are put on them to fill the orders they have. I am an illegal alien to the channel (new comer) and haven't been here real long and have been squatting. Who is Jake and Who are the boys? Thanks for making the video.
What happened with the oil in the crane? Did you get the water out with those sausage things or just decide to run it as it?
I have been this route too. An air tool in good condition will always prevail. My old and I mean old air powered Black and Decker 1" drive is slow and heavy, but it still bangs them loose. At the Cat dealer I worked at 30 years ago they had some kind of electric plug in impact wrench that was a beast. You needed a crane to use it! but it would undo bolts or break them off! I think that was a 1 1/2" drive. I would be interested to see how long the Earthquake lasts in everyday service. Anyone out there use one everyday in tire service or heavy repair? Edit: Jeff you mentioned Torque is Torque...yeah I get it, and think the same way. However in the world of impact wrenches...I am not sure what that even means in sales jargon?
Yes, there's no standard to check left hand, or "undo" torque so it's all over the place, but what I find interesting is IR and other major brands recommend no more than 90 psi but Vevor says 200 psi and they have a gun that weighs 47 pounds and makes 5,000 ft lbs they claim
That's interesting- I feel the same way about my Milwaukee 1". Worthless!
Hard to bet the 1 inch drive air gun changed truck tires for 5 years with one
need a high torque electric torqueing tool, i will see if i can find a link and update this
Why can't you swap out the roller frames from the D9H?
Jeff you need to file a report with the Consumer Product Safety about that trigger jamming on
I have the Milwaukee 1” gun it rips bolts out 4 settings in forward and reverse check it out
Think you should have put the bolts back in the with the Earthquake and see if the IR could pull them out just to see that test !
I'm going to that 👍
Electric tools have there place,,There great for light to medium duty work on cars and light trucks,,But for heavy duty stuff,,AG work or big construction equipment you can't beat air,,
Harbor freight has good tools for the money.
Welder up guy in Arizona might want your super white power gas truck. He likes stuff like that.
Jeff ever though of looking for a moble Ingersoll jack hammer compressor at the auction. 👍👍Not everything can be turned to battery electric. There just junk.😎😎
On the damaged holes, you can convert them to studs with s nut.
S nut?
Next time chain two or three or all the rollers up at once and run the crane one time!….big time couch mechanic over here!
Inkerstool band has never been great imho, I've had a few air tools in a factory setting and they never lasted long, I oiled cleaned filtered but they just won't last Great Vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍
They were pretty good 50 years ago. Like many companies, they choose to live off of their reputation rather than investing in improving their product line.
LMFAO ... GREAT VID!! ... The affordable Earthquake Gun is supplied under different names by different vendors and they all Bust your Nuts.. I would imagine that in this day and age liability issues effect actual performance while NOT effecting advertising exaggerations... Ingersoll has been put on Notice... 😉
Weighted impact sockets like for crank bolts will give more edge to otherwise weaker impacts.Where it is marginal they will make a difference. None of that is going to matter to a 3/4" - 1" air hose hooked to impact like the Earthquake is going to beat the crap out of electric.
I got a 1/2 in earthquake and it kicked the IR to the curb over a decade ago
I had a Chicago Pneumatic 1/2 drive that would blow away the other guys IR
You sure ruffled the feathers of folks with the Insta post!
I feel that only half the test was done. Removal...
Maybe you could run a couple bolts each back in, with each impact, and then grab a torque wrench and see what foot lbs they tighten too? I mean...with even putting tires n wheels on as the battery wears down. Are the last few lug nuts even tight enough? Consistency would be there every time with an air tool,IMO! Thanks for your honesty and sorry about beating your wallet took.😢
Oh i'll piss of even more on the other side LOL
If it was just a rusty nut probably pop them right off but a rusty bolt totally different problem
We have 2 earthquakes and they are definitely a good gun for a harbor freight tool.