damn cant believe this is what stole LITERALLY ALL of the smithing script axes range... i mean srly.... EVEN MY MICRODICK IS LONGER THAN THAT THINGS RANGE BUT THIS LITTLE SHIT CAN GO THAT FUCKING FAR THAT FAST!?! man i cant wait for balance change wave that WILL be coming, im sure.... hehhheh... pun not inteded...........
@@ze_glitchy_gamer7629this, swift slash, rolling sparks, fire knight greatsword outclassing ALL other heavy weapons, status effect shotgun crossbow applying sleep through s, dual spears still unbeatable if used by sweaty tryhards
I don’t understand why ever seemed to just hang back and let you beat on them with your ranged weapon like cmon guys someone close that gap and get the pressure up!
Honestly he just went against enemies that couldn't figure out how to actually fight their opponent. That, and it seems that while the group had options, they weren't specifically optimal for countering this kind of weapon.
@@nate29161 on 1 the shield’s op because it forces you to roll, you don’t get to play when someone has this weapon. You want to close the gap? Get close and Boom two hit true combo that’ll stagger you out of hyper armor, god forbid they have a weapon because that’ll turn into a 3 hit combo. Your only option is to stay away and just roll forever because there’s nothing else you can do, besides wait for them to run out of FP (it uses 5 fp)
Because it's not op, it's pretty easily telegraphed dodgable and even parryable, same as all the other smithscripts. Meanwhile with my sword of night and flame I can almost one shot my friend with over 60 in vigor with the flame attack. THAT ladies and gentlemen, would be what is op. People spamming the same attack over and over because they can't win otherwise when they see their opponent is shit at dodging, is not op, that's a player problem on the host and the invader
I find the best way to use the shield is with another smithscript weapon like the spear or axe since the delay with the shield in the air and a charged throw can roll catch anyone who thinks the can dodge the shield
i mean if you equip the mana regin tal, discus of light is less cost to cast than the mana regen you get from the tali durring the cast time, making it effectively free, and hits twice as hard. Not to mention all the 0 fp cost weapon arts. and the other smithscript weapons. and the 10-11 fp spells like the new spamable fire spell with insane tracking. this thing is just a mid zoning tool and easily counterable.
Wish the shield looked like the “Round shield” or “black leather shield” for better accuracy. Didn’t even need to do medium shield damage, just look like one
from what i know its bugged, the smithscript weapons get ton of physical scaling once they get infused, even tho str dex goes to E they get like +200 physical AR along side the elemental dmg
i don’t think that’s a bug, the smithscript weapons always have faith and int scaling governing their physical dmg, so it just increases when you bump that scaling up. the Erdsteel dagger from the base game does that too i’m pretty sure. that being said, you can’t put any infusions on the shield, so that’s not even an issue here.
huh…. my comment didn’t show up… oh well. anyhow, in case it doesn’t come back, the shield cannot be infused, so not an issue here. and the other weapon already have physical dmg scaling from int and faith, so it makes sense that it increases if you infuse it and have values in either of those stats. they all scale with str, dex, int, and faith normally. Erdsteel dagger works similarly if i’m not mistaken
If they just played more aggressive it would have been more in their favor. Its nuts how many times players will force a strat that fails over and over.
Remove is kind of extreme. Mind you also retreated into mobs, but I'm mostly a PVE player that mostly solos the game save for bosses. Either a person would need to have a bow and stay out of range or close the distance with fast weapons to break the guard. However, unless FromSoft makes it where the PVE mobs attack the invaders, the invader will have an advantage in close spaces with mobs.
The problem is that it protects you like any shield, it can be thrown and used as a ranged weapon, when thrown it can follow enemies, it has a long range, it does more damage than a sword, and it can be thrown faster than any other weapon that is launched. The other weapons that can be thrown, such as the mace or the spear, have many disadvantages, none of them follow the enemies like the shield, they lower your stamina a lot, in the case of the spear, you need it to charge the attack to do decent damage, and the maso takes too long to launch.
bruh correct me if im wrong but the animation for the ash of war is telegraphed to high hell how is the shield an issue its like no one is paying attention to the animation its clear and very dodgeable Ive dodged these like so many times how do you not see it coming just pay attention and dodge im so confused of the point of this video
problem is it costs almost no stamina, has little to no start and end lag, and is a delayed projectile with insane speed and tracking. Even if it did little to no damage, the stagger is still enough to combo into other things and break neutral; just spam this and force dodges until either they roll close enough that you can hit them in the ending of their dodge or they run out of stamina and you can run in and get free shots off. In short; very little skill required to use, immediately forces opponent to play aggressively or use their stamina meter - both of which are easily punished.
Shift slash and that naoya torch bug need to be removed. Everything else is fine or will be fine after a light nerf. This shield is ok if it would cost more fp and without the already mentioned bug, where you can apply damage from your right hand weapon on the shield.
Nah this thing is fine, admitedly it homes in on the target & speeds up is janky , it is balanced by the startup animation & voulnerability if the oponent gets close, i mean the last guy with the haligtree shield could have simply blocked while walking up to you , could use a nerf, but removing it? nonsense
ehh… no worse than sorcery spammers. people just haven’t dealt the timing enough. maaaaaybe they could raise the fp cost to 5 instead of 3? what i don’t get is why the guy with the greatshield didn’t keep using it to block while rushing you down? unlike sorcery it’s pure physical dmg.
Kind of sounds like a skill issue from what I see. If you can't defeat a person who's blocking most of your stuff, then I think you need to develop a new strategy. It's like a common thing with video games like fighting as well. Should we get rid of blocking in those games if you can't have the shield.
Tbf the shield has since been nerfed. Still a really good sidearm though. Another weapon that needs work is the Greatsword of Damnation. Those hitboxes are so broken that it will still grab you during i-frames. Although I love these weapons, I've never seen so many items with poor playtesting QC.
i dont see any problems with the shiel thats just a skill issue on the other players part on the other hand the fingerprint shield with bleed infusion and shield crash AoW is a bigger problem if you ask me
In reality this shield is much more "balanced" than the rest of the game weapons and abilities, that is, look at the broken builds that exist, the ash of war of the perfumes that one-shots the bosses, the ash of war of the reverse blades.. and much more. The developers forgot that this game has a PvP mode 😢
Host looked like it was their first game playing a Fromsoft game. They had a shield but instead of blocking with it they decided to panic roll lol. The shield isn’t busted. This is just knowledge checking people since all the dlc weapons are still new to everyone.
almost. All of that is true except the part where you say the shield isn’t busted: it’s a delayed timing projectile with insane speed and tracking, nearly no stamina cost, and actually no start or end lag. It’s free pressure and anyone with half a brain can use it to force dodges and immediately break neutral; the second the enemy runs out of stamina you can just walk up and r*pe them.
Slow down animation, require more stamina. And thats about all that is needed. It looks totally winnable in comparisan all the bullshit I've failught so far.
Only abusers needs to be removed from ER And spammers And PvP-ers, who constantly cry loud because of something, so that something then in turn gets nerfed into oblivion in PvE This third kind of player needs to be removed from ALL games please
We have had so much worse from the Soulsborne series, original Ninja-Flip Havel before it's removal, Giant Dad, Obsidian Sword, Hexs, and that's just DS1. This is nothing, there is significantly more overpowered stuff even at current state of the game then this shield in PvP, even post patch. Learn the timing or suffer. Just like every other game, simple as.
How do you see this and think "oh god this is op game broken" like it is really obvious how easily one could counter this with just aggression and exploiting the stamina drain of attempted melee trades, not to mention the slow speed of the spam making it easily dodgeable or blockable unlike some spells/weapon arts. The damage is honestly pretty mid to. What about this is op exactly? the fact that it doesn't cost fp and is spam-able? i could name a dozen other weapons and abilities that are also casually spam-able with no serious cost, and those spells and weapon arts don't come with the added downside of having to use a shield in melee and basically giving you enemy free crits if the are experienced enough to play around that. 7/10 mid poke tool.
It does, but 3fp. This is one of many annoying weapons in gank squads, for the invader, nope, its not gonna help you much while fighting the host and his over-levelled boyfriends.
Pretty easily countered if you dont suck at the game. Now if it was the other way around and they ganked you with it then thats cancer but if youre just fighting one person with it, just dodge well
What is going on with this game man.... Worst state of the game ever..
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damn cant believe this is what stole LITERALLY ALL of the smithing script axes range... i mean srly.... EVEN MY MICRODICK IS LONGER THAN THAT THINGS RANGE BUT THIS LITTLE SHIT CAN GO THAT FUCKING FAR THAT FAST!?! man i cant wait for balance change wave that WILL be coming, im sure.... hehhheh... pun not inteded...........
@@ze_glitchy_gamer7629this, swift slash, rolling sparks, fire knight greatsword outclassing ALL other heavy weapons, status effect shotgun crossbow applying sleep through s, dual spears still unbeatable if used by sweaty tryhards
Is that why your previous two videos from the day of release got removed as well?
I deleted them
Everybody talkin about the shield, but no one's talkin about the perfectly timed pot
Yeah that pot throw was clean
Bro out here like he's Captain Belurat
Captain America build
Captain elden
Captain Caelid
Captain Maidenless 😂
@@Allah_का_बापif we think about it Captain America was fairly maidenless himself ...
I’ll try this build lol 😂 looks fun
I don’t understand why ever seemed to just hang back and let you beat on them with your ranged weapon like cmon guys someone close that gap and get the pressure up!
this is what we like to call a zoner. Remember hosts Elden RIng is a fighting game in disguise. put pressure on my man.
Honestly he just went against enemies that couldn't figure out how to actually fight their opponent. That, and it seems that while the group had options, they weren't specifically optimal for countering this kind of weapon.
@@kanseidorifto2430 I mean..he had a rapier so he could definitely stagger him to oblivion at least.
No it is not. Souls PVP has always been an afterthought at best.
@@thatoneothergamer6158 I'll be real, I've never used them before since I just dodge them. Just not my thing
@@kanseidorifto2430 the chad way of doing it. Getting Good.
They could've won if they just added pressure to you and got close the shield doesn't look so op
If the host would just bum rush the guy with the hunter instead of staying at the back. Like brother, you have a giant shield for reason.
You clearly haven't played against the spammers in pvp
@@dillasoul2228 spamming only Works if its like a 3 on 1. Even 2 on 1s can have trouble spamming me.
@@nate29161 on 1 the shield’s op because it forces you to roll, you don’t get to play when someone has this weapon.
You want to close the gap? Get close and Boom two hit true combo that’ll stagger you out of hyper armor, god forbid they have a weapon because that’ll turn into a 3 hit combo.
Your only option is to stay away and just roll forever because there’s nothing else you can do, besides wait for them to run out of FP (it uses 5 fp)
Because it's not op, it's pretty easily telegraphed dodgable and even parryable, same as all the other smithscripts. Meanwhile with my sword of night and flame I can almost one shot my friend with over 60 in vigor with the flame attack. THAT ladies and gentlemen, would be what is op. People spamming the same attack over and over because they can't win otherwise when they see their opponent is shit at dodging, is not op, that's a player problem on the host and the invader
he's just panic chugging holy shit
man loves his sunny d
One is simply playing a jolly game of frisbee.
anything is op if the host and his simp army are stupid enough
You mean the people minding their business in coop?
You sound like a fucking dweeb😂 "the host and his simp army😩, they deserve my uninvited ass in their cake"😂
@@dillasoul2228 you’re the only one coping though
How have I seen comments from you on both UA-cam and tiktok lol
@@anthonypritchard2798 because hes a loser
"STOP HEALING! YOU NEED TO BLOCK! RAISE YOUR SHIELD!!!"
The fact you kept wailing on the host of fingers on a literal last breath of stamina is an excellent demonstration of the power of that weapon
Dude spamming gravity spin has no idea how to use it lol
I had two limgrave gankers spamming that at me, felt undodgeable. Immediately fingered out when i could.
Is very bad...
I, too, finger my way out of a bad time
As you should 💪 @@seyas848
Get gud and stop whining.
Should have quit the whole game. Don't let those retards get your runes for just spamming l2
I find the best way to use the shield is with another smithscript weapon like the spear or axe since the delay with the shield in the air and a charged throw can roll catch anyone who thinks the can dodge the shield
As a dragon communion user that first guy puts shame on our names
It takes the same weapon buffs as your right hand, so if you cover your right hand armament with something it'll have the same buff
Ppl really cant time a roll huh?
No one tell him that the fire's deadly sin deathblught bug is back in torch form
Like i dont know already
Someone invaded me with this and had death blight on it somehow 💀
Eclipse shotel probably but fuck should have tried that before it got patched
I can feel rage from both sides, a panicked rage from the host, and a furious rage that this goofy spam is working from you.
hilarious thing, i love it. The most cost-effective spell in the game now
don't forget it's tracking
Stop spamming! You guys like skill or IQ
It’s not hilarious it’s inane
i mean if you equip the mana regin tal, discus of light is less cost to cast than the mana regen you get from the tali durring the cast time, making it effectively free, and hits twice as hard. Not to mention all the 0 fp cost weapon arts. and the other smithscript weapons. and the 10-11 fp spells like the new spamable fire spell with insane tracking. this thing is just a mid zoning tool and easily counterable.
@@zackr171 holy damage falls of hard in the late bad game and against the final dlc boss.
The PvE is fun right now, but the state of PvP is mind-boggling
Always has been, DS3 pvp will always be better lol
Its not about the pvp, it's about the people playing the pvp not being able to win without spamming the same attack over and over
If that shield blocked 100% damage this would be everyones go to shield.
that shield is so OP that it made the host forget what rolling is
the daggers have the range of a spear but this shield's like glintstone pebble distance lol
that shield can apply main hand weapon status effect. check rust's video.
When captain american throws his mighty shield ...
...it only costs a little bit of stamina!
And you know what ? if you have a status weapon equipped in the right hand, you will get that status on the shield😂
Wowzers
Is just a clasic bug that loves to come back, it will be fixed probably on next balance patch and probably come back in another weapon some time after
*Has an arcane scaling madness weapon*
No such thing @@Sam-isnt-dumb
Wish the shield looked like the “Round shield” or “black leather shield” for better accuracy. Didn’t even need to do medium shield damage, just look like one
from what i know its bugged, the smithscript weapons get ton of physical scaling once they get infused, even tho str dex goes to E they get like +200 physical AR along side the elemental dmg
i don’t think that’s a bug, the smithscript weapons always have faith and int scaling governing their physical dmg, so it just increases when you bump that scaling up. the Erdsteel dagger from the base game does that too i’m pretty sure.
that being said, you can’t put any infusions on the shield, so that’s not even an issue here.
huh…. my comment didn’t show up… oh well.
anyhow, in case it doesn’t come back, the shield cannot be infused, so not an issue here. and the other weapon already have physical dmg scaling from int and faith, so it makes sense that it increases if you infuse it and have values in either of those stats. they all scale with str, dex, int, and faith normally. Erdsteel dagger works similarly if i’m not mistaken
If they just played more aggressive it would have been more in their favor. Its nuts how many times players will force a strat that fails over and over.
Remove is kind of extreme. Mind you also retreated into mobs, but I'm mostly a PVE player that mostly solos the game save for bosses. Either a person would need to have a bow and stay out of range or close the distance with fast weapons to break the guard. However, unless FromSoft makes it where the PVE mobs attack the invaders, the invader will have an advantage in close spaces with mobs.
Shield needs to be removed?
Have you not seen the other weapons in the dlc? 😂
The problem is that it protects you like any shield, it can be thrown and used as a ranged weapon, when thrown it can follow enemies, it has a long range, it does more damage than a sword, and it can be thrown faster than any other weapon that is launched.
The other weapons that can be thrown, such as the mace or the spear, have many disadvantages, none of them follow the enemies like the shield, they lower your stamina a lot, in the case of the spear, you need it to charge the attack to do decent damage, and the maso takes too long to launch.
@@giosma3156 SHIFT SLASH
Id worry more about some new ashes of war XD the final boss weapons are pure cancer in small areas
@@giosma3156 its not even good. and if it does more damage than your sword, youre not using your sword right.
bruh correct me if im wrong but the animation for the ash of war is telegraphed to high hell how is the shield an issue its like no one is paying attention to the animation its clear and very dodgeable Ive dodged these like so many times how do you not see it coming just pay attention and dodge im so confused of the point of this video
problem is it costs almost no stamina, has little to no start and end lag, and is a delayed projectile with insane speed and tracking. Even if it did little to no damage, the stagger is still enough to combo into other things and break neutral; just spam this and force dodges until either they roll close enough that you can hit them in the ending of their dodge or they run out of stamina and you can run in and get free shots off.
In short; very little skill required to use, immediately forces opponent to play aggressively or use their stamina meter - both of which are easily punished.
@@devasauruswrex6251 damn tbh that kinda sounds like blindspot an attack that forces a dodge fair enough I can kinda understand that
Shift slash and that naoya torch bug need to be removed. Everything else is fine or will be fine after a light nerf. This shield is ok if it would cost more fp and without the already mentioned bug, where you can apply damage from your right hand weapon on the shield.
"hey who ordered a fuckin PIZZA"
Nah this thing is fine,
admitedly it homes in on the target & speeds up is janky ,
it is balanced by the startup animation & voulnerability if the oponent gets close,
i mean the last guy with the haligtree shield could have simply blocked while walking up to you , could use a nerf, but removing it? nonsense
Turns out attacks deal damage to you when you don't dodge them. They should be removed.
You should try the flowerstone gavel. That shit can legit one shot with high Arc
This game man..... I will probably do a perfumer edit as next video and never touch pvp again.. even after a patch.. this shit is cooked.. zaki won
@@DiabloDexI feel you, miyazaki turning his game into touhou 😭
Combat needs to be removed. Horrible fighting system. Jenky as all hell
ehh… no worse than sorcery spammers. people just haven’t dealt the timing enough. maaaaaybe they could raise the fp cost to 5 instead of 3?
what i don’t get is why the guy with the greatshield didn’t keep using it to block while rushing you down? unlike sorcery it’s pure physical dmg.
I dont understand ppl using shields tbh, i might be stupid for not doing it but a greatsword is all i need
Shields are a great substitute for skill for many players.
you not even using the best part you can infuse it with bleed, rot, fire, lightning ect
I played in the 1v1 arena and faced a guy who for the 300seconds of the game did this, the entire time.
Kind of sounds like a skill issue from what I see. If you can't defeat a person who's blocking most of your stuff, then I think you need to develop a new strategy. It's like a common thing with video games like fighting as well. Should we get rid of blocking in those games if you can't have the shield.
Just discovered this beast and fully upgraded it, it's my new best friend, it even wrecks some bosses
Tbf the shield has since been nerfed. Still a really good sidearm though. Another weapon that needs work is the Greatsword of Damnation. Those hitboxes are so broken that it will still grab you during i-frames. Although I love these weapons, I've never seen so many items with poor playtesting QC.
It’s so easy to counter tho lol, I ran into someone using it in arena and he wasn’t good at all lmao
If you have this in your offhand you can spread status effects in your main hand. Im trying it with eclypse shotel.
Oohhh *evil grin*
You haven't even optimized it. You can make the shield stronger lmao
I’ve just started doing arena and I see this pretty often and it’s fkn annoying. This DLC brought even more spam than the original
TAKE THAT WIZARD! Ah strategy
Imagine if you could buff this with invisible weapon 😂
All those who oppose his shield must yield.
It's you, not the shield
Captain America build would be much easier now
Bro was healing 24/7 😂
i dont see any problems with the shiel thats just a skill issue on the other players part on the other hand the fingerprint shield with bleed infusion and shield crash AoW is a bigger problem if you ask me
He should have rolled towards you to close the gap, but instead he kept running and rolling away. Or just didnt roll at all.
why need to be removed? skill issue?
Cara, não precisa ser removido não. Do que vc esta falando? A Build do capitão América é boa!
Basically Predator's smart disc from MKX.
In reality this shield is much more "balanced" than the rest of the game weapons and abilities, that is, look at the broken builds that exist, the ash of war of the perfumes that one-shots the bosses, the ash of war of the reverse blades.. and much more. The developers forgot that this game has a PvP mode 😢
For a skill with decent range with reasonable amounts of damage, it's quite fp efficient. Your fp barely moved at all.
Host looked like it was their first game playing a Fromsoft game. They had a shield but instead of blocking with it they decided to panic roll lol. The shield isn’t busted. This is just knowledge checking people since all the dlc weapons are still new to everyone.
It's overpowered in ganks
@@dunmeroverlordwhat isn't overpowered in ganks?
@@skeletalspiders6697 bare fists
almost. All of that is true except the part where you say the shield isn’t busted: it’s a delayed timing projectile with insane speed and tracking, nearly no stamina cost, and actually no start or end lag. It’s free pressure and anyone with half a brain can use it to force dodges and immediately break neutral; the second the enemy runs out of stamina you can just walk up and r*pe them.
Its the captain Amarika build
Slow down animation, require more stamina. And thats about all that is needed. It looks totally winnable in comparisan all the bullshit I've failught so far.
But you can’t parry at once and throw it?( both ashes )
Honestly I would just say lower the range of it. It would make it more fair. It's just way way too good of a pressure tool rn
Not to mention you get hit before the model itself touches you
I was just thinking about making a build with the shield and the axe lmao
would be funny if it was an ash of war i want to yeet the stone shield
Oh no... It's broken... Against a guy who just spams spells and the WA without even knowing how to dodge properly... Yeah... So broken
I mean it’s essentially just the same as spell spamming.
Smithscript Shield / Ancient Death Rancor / Poison Antspur Rapier! Thank me later!
Just looks like slower halo scythe. Any projectile is OP if you only run away and panic roll lol
So, you just spamed AoW and now this thing should be removed?
Mhm, noted.
Noted
So chipping away at someone who’s not fighting is considered broken now?
I just quit every time i fight that sheild its actually uncounterable
Be careful what nerf you wish for. When everything is nerfed, there's no fun.
There was a guy who I fought in duels with this ash and death blight on it
I mean the shield doesn't seem particularly great but the host and his summon dont appear particularly good either.
That looks about as fun as the last 3 Assassins Creed games.
... Unless you have a Greatshield
Miazaki stroking off in the corner after a job well done of ruining yet another fromsoft game by terrible balancing in pvp
Only abusers needs to be removed from ER
And spammers
And PvP-ers, who constantly cry loud because of something,
so that something then in turn gets nerfed into oblivion in PvE
This third kind of player needs to be removed from ALL games please
Poor blue, tried to help XD !!! they could not block, Dodge the things XD !!!
Bro that shield and the smithscript spear is op
Nobody talking about the hammer
We have had so much worse from the Soulsborne series, original Ninja-Flip Havel before it's removal, Giant Dad, Obsidian Sword, Hexs, and that's just DS1. This is nothing, there is significantly more overpowered stuff even at current state of the game then this shield in PvP, even post patch. Learn the timing or suffer. Just like every other game, simple as.
How do you see this and think "oh god this is op game broken" like it is really obvious how easily one could counter this with just aggression and exploiting the stamina drain of attempted melee trades, not to mention the slow speed of the spam making it easily dodgeable or blockable unlike some spells/weapon arts. The damage is honestly pretty mid to. What about this is op exactly? the fact that it doesn't cost fp and is spam-able? i could name a dozen other weapons and abilities that are also casually spam-able with no serious cost, and those spells and weapon arts don't come with the added downside of having to use a shield in melee and basically giving you enemy free crits if the are experienced enough to play around that. 7/10 mid poke tool.
A person used that against me and a host in limgrave weapon lvl 0
Discus Hurl doesn’t consume FP? That’s insane. Haven’t seen anyone use this in invasion but that looks like hell for PVP
It does, but 3fp. This is one of many annoying weapons in gank squads, for the invader, nope, its not gonna help you much while fighting the host and his over-levelled boyfriends.
Exactly. Duels are an absolute abortion. Snakeboi flame/script sheild spam. Every. Fucking. Match.
Pretty easily countered if you dont suck at the game. Now if it was the other way around and they ganked you with it then thats cancer but if youre just fighting one person with it, just dodge well
literally best spell in the game
that title makes so angry U NEED TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THE SOULS LIKE UNIVERSE KID STOP TRIPIN CAPING AND YAPPING !
Put the spinning weapon ash of war on it
Ruin Sentinal build confirmed