10 Best Bikes for ✔Off-Road Beginners✔ in 2024
Вставка
- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- In this buyer's guide I highlight 10 motorcycles, all road legal, all under 400 lbs and under $8,000, that are best if you are trying to learn off road riding. Forget big adventure bikes, learn on a dual sport or light-weight ADV first. #motorcycle #dualsport #adv #dirtbike
⚡2024 Gear Guide Download:
tinyurl.com/3jtkmdvz
➕SUPPORT➕
[I may receive commissions which are invested back into the channel]
⚡ Patreon: / bigrockmedia
⚡ Rocky Mountain ATV/MC: bit.ly/33kgRIz
⚡ Revzilla: imp.i104546.net/6bxxXN
⚡ Mosko Moto: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto
⚡ Pacific Powersports (Motoz Tires, Barkbusters): pacificpowersports.com/ USE CODE BRM2024
⚡ 3D Cycle Parts: www.3dcycleparts.com/?aff=3
⚡ Denali Lighting: tinyurl.com/9746het9
⚡ Taco Moto : tacomoto.co/?ref=fi6gv640
⚡ Cyclops Adventure Sports: tinyurl.com/2kaknpfn
⚡ Amazon: amzn.to/3viGZ0A
⚡ Merchandise: big-rock-moto.myspreadshop.com/
🏍 RECOMMENDED RIDING GEAR AND PARTS!
HELMETS:
⚡ Klim Krios Pro: imp.i104546.net/WD9gOM
⚡ Schuberth C3 Pro : imp.i104546.net/ZQrND1
⚡ Sedici Strada II: imp.i104546.net/g1bjoB
⚡ MSR MAV4 MIPS: bit.ly/3HJSDHT
RIDING SUITS:
⚡ MSR Voyager: bit.ly/40YqWmO
⚡ Sedici Marco 2: imp.i104546.net/3ePnAk
⚡ MSR Xplorer: bit.ly/3SjxHwk
⚡ REV’IT! Hyperspeed Air: imp.i104546.net/eKREy6
⚡ Alpinestars Halo Drystar: imp.i104546.net/GmDVP6
⚡ Klim Carlsbad: imp.i104546.net/BXGB5L
⚡ Klim Baja S4: imp.i104546.net/oeGVN9
⚡ Klim K Fifty 2 Jeans: imp.i104546.net/BXa310
⚡ REV’IT! Reed Jeans: imp.i104546.net/JzqVee
⚡ REV’IT Sand 4: imp.i104546.net/Zd2g1z
⚡ REV’IT Cayenne: imp.i104546.net/NkKZzK
⚡ Merlin Alton Jacket: imp.i104546.net/DVA9Eq
⚡ Sedici Chicane Leathers: imp.i104546.net/Ea5rLX
⚡ Mosko Moto Basilisk/Surveyor/RAK/Kiger/Woodsman: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto
GLOVES:
⚡Sedici Marco 2: imp.i104546.net/nLnyz7
⚡ REV’IT Dirt 3: imp.i104546.net/BXa3A0
⚡ REV’IT! Metis 2 : imp.i104546.net/B0Kyq0
⚡ Klim Baja: imp.i104546.net/0Jn2GV
⚡ Klim Adventure GTX: imp.i104546.net/Eax204
⚡ Sedici Chicane: imp.i104546.net/2rGboD
⚡ MSR Winter: bit.ly/3IDXufg
⚡ MSR ADV Air: bit.ly/3maEdtF
BOOTS
⚡ Sidi Adventure 2 Gore Tex: imp.i104546.net/b3q5kx
⚡ Sidi Crossfire 3: bit.ly/3dxtlhr
⚡ Alpinestars Tech 7 Enduro: imp.i104546.net/EKqeQ9
⚡ Alpinestars SMX Street: imp.i104546.net/2rz6YM
⚡ Forma Adventure: imp.i104546.net/vnXJ6e
⚡ MSR Adventure: bit.ly/433bSVY
LAYERS AND ACCESSORIES
⚡ Mosko Moto Ectotherm Jacket: bit.ly/3GJUax6
⚡ Mosko Moto Wildcat 8L Backpack: bit.ly/3OiE5Ss
⚡ Moose Body Armor: bit.ly/3IuoTyn
⚡ Leatt Knee Guards: bit.ly/3twN8Fu
⚡ MSR NXT Jerseys: bit.ly/3jD7IDd
⚡ MSR Mid-Layer: bit.ly/3Ikkyi1
⚡ MSR Base Layers: bit.ly/3K3bQ8s
⚡ REV'IT! Cyclone Rain Suit: imp.i104546.net/qn1P9N
ACCESSORIES/LUGGAGE:
⚡ Cardo Comms: cardosystems.rfrl.co/xpv8o
⚡ Garmin inReach Communicator: bit.ly/3ybN1Bc
⚡ Mosko Moto Luggage: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto
⚡ Tusk Olympus Panniers: bit.ly/3lLUHVG
⚡ Tusk Rackless: bit.ly/31FVUXN
⚡ Tusk Dual Sport Saddlebags: bit.ly/336oAtf
⚡ Rigg Gear TailBag: imp.i104546.net/VyQQdk
⚡ Garmin Zumo XT GPS: bit.ly/3EGY4Vi
⚡ Tusk Olympus Tank Bags: bit.ly/3yfaQbi
⚡ DoubleTake Mirrors: bit.ly/3xczavF
CAMERA GEAR:
⚡GoPro Hero11: amzn.to/40VM1Oy
⚡Insta360: amzn.to/3KTgV2s
⚡Universal Chin Mount: amzn.to/3Eq5o8s
⚡Canon EOS R6: amzn.to/3jQRrXO
⚡Rode Wireless Mics: amzn.to/37xoc9E
⚡RAM Claw Mount: amzn.to/3jQ55u4
⚡PurplePanda Helmet Mic: amzn.to/3vkL7Ni
⚠️Contact: info@bigrockmedia.net
⚠️Facebook: / bigrockmoto
⚠️Instagram: / bigrockmoto
00:00 Beginner Philosophy
06:24 Honda XR150L
07:39 Yam TW200
08:53 Kawi KLX230S
10:00 Yam XT250
10:50 Honda CRF300LS
11:55 Kawi KLX300
13:04 Kawi Versys 300
14:14 BMW G310GS
15:29 KTM 390 Adv
16:52 Suzuki DR650
18:34 New or Used
19:47 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
⚡2024 Riding Gear Guide Download:
tinyurl.com/3jtkmdvz
➕SUPPORT➕
[I may receive commissions which are invested back into the channel]
⚡ Patreon: www.patreon.com/bigrockmedia
⚡ Rocky Mountain ATV/MC: bit.ly/33kgRIz
⚡ Revzilla: imp.i104546.net/6bxxXN
⚡ Mosko Moto: moskomoto.com/bigrockmoto
⚡ Pacific Powersports (Motoz Tires, Barkbusters): pacificpowersports.com/ USE CODE BRM2024
⚡ 3D Cycle Parts: www.3dcycleparts.com/?aff=3
⚡ Taco Moto : tacomoto.co/?ref=fi6gv640
⚡ Denali Lighting: tinyurl.com/9746het9
⚡ Cyclops Adventure Sports: tinyurl.com/2kaknpfn
⚡ Amazon: amzn.to/3viGZ0A
⚡ Merchandise: big-rock-moto.myspreadshop.com/
❤
😮😮,b81iiwiij ¹😊
Once again Ian delivers the most comprehensive and useful video on this topic.
You beloved brother Dork are indispensable for bigger noobs like me that have no point of reference to how a small single might struggle to make top steed up hill with me on it though venerated for having ample power to conquer the third world roads or lack there of. Y'all, Ian included, have shown what a awesome community there can be so long as we are excellent to each other. Cheers from the unsprung KLR club! 🍻
Funny how much I enjoy both of your channels content, I’m an experienced rider that’s raced and ridden at a level beneath Pro class , tested dirt bikes for magazines for years but recognise you guys speak to the vast majority of riders where there at , well done men from the land down under👍🇦🇺
I’ve been riding fifty years, and this just reinforces what I’ve said for ever. All riders should start in the dirt on a trail bike before getting big bikes. Way less expensive and not as painful when you crash. Not if you crash, but when you crash. Better too eat some mud while learning than a bumper.
Awesome video as usual! Thanks for letting us tag along 🤙✌
Thank you for your amazing partnership with me for so many years now!
This is a video I wish I had watched five years ago before I bought my Africa Twin. My goal of riding off-road was impossible for me, and I've since down-sized to a Honda CRF250L. I bought used for exactly the reasons you outline. I'm having a blast with the smaller bike riding off-road and gaining skills and confidence.
Great to hear
Thanks Ian!
As a Tuareg owner and have owned numerous big adv bikes I can definitely agree with starting on a lightweight dual sport bike. Even as a more experienced rider now I will always have more fun, less stress and have the desire to want to test my skills a bit more on a smaller, lightweight bike, builds your confidence.
IMHO, there's no better decent all rounder, for beginners, and others, than the 250L.
I think that eventually a big adventure motorcycle rider even with many years of experience will end up with one of those bikes either as a complement to the big bike or simply as a down sizing do to age or do to health conditions, so they are also good for relearning what they already knew many years ago.
Cheers
One thing with the DR is that the factory lowering can be done at home without a ton of work. Though you will need a special tool to take apart the forks. Tusk sells it for $30. The nice thing about this factory method is that it doesnt screw up the geometry like lowering links/moving the fork clamps would. I did it, and both me and my stubby legs are very happy with it.
great info
The lowering option was a big reason why I bought my DR. I never did it because once I got the Sargent low seat I was happy enough with that. My inseam is 29 inches btw.
Really good advice, thanks for doing all the legwork and sharing the results!
Always informative, keep up the good work.
Thanks man! Great quality content like always
The 390ADV is such a fun bike and modifying it hasn't been crazy expensive. Saw a dealer in my state mark their 23' models down to $4500😳 earlier this year. You can find them for cheap sometimes and even with .99% apr.
Wow! Nice!
I’ll bet that’s not in California
@@karlfonner7589 funny that you should say that. It was Scuderia West in San Francisco that had the bike super cheap. But they ended that sale and now their 390's are $6399 which is still a grand off. K & B Motorsports in Petaluma has the best price that I can see now. Their price is $5199.
Tried to respond to you twice but it was Scuderia West in San Francisco.
Great review Ian! I started on a 100cc trail bike and had several off road bikes, best training in the world.
DR650 is the one I am buying to travel. I will be moving up from a honda cb250 which I have used to travel far but the DR650 is going to make a great improvement
May 2024 will mark one year of riding a motorcycle for me. My first and current bike is a 2023 KLR650. In retrospect, it's an awfully heavy bike, and I've spent a lot of time picking it up, but I've learned a lot. I was too focused on trying to find something to fit my big frame, rather than something that felt comfortable. A year in, I'm much more confident on and off-road, but think it might've benefitted me to start on something smaller, like the TW-200 I rode for my MSF course.
Do check out the new Royal Enfield Himalayan 450
It is too heavy to make this list. It is 432lbs/196kg.
This is a very comprehensive list. Well thought out and unbiased. A+ on the video
Excellent video, thank you!
Great info thanks. I'm looking into getting back into light trails riding.
Totally agree with all of your thoughts here! We bought the little Honda XR150L bikes because they checked all the boxes for her on the cheap! I ended up liking the bike much more then expected also.
You always make great videos , from the uk 👍
Great content Ian. Although I’m an owner of two motorcycles, you can always learn new things by listening to excellent video content I’m passing along to friends thank you.
I’m an experienced 75 year old rider and I’d buy the Honda 300LS right now IF I could find one.
Great video , lots of options , Thanks
As always, well done!
I have been watching, enjoying and learning from your videos for the last 3 years, like in the UFC IT'S time, to subscribe.
Greetings from Argentina
Always the best content, thank you. Love my Honda xr150l, seems like it got better after the break in period. It's awesome to have such a great line up of small dual sports these days! Get out and enjoy life, go to places you've never been, and stay safe.
Glad you enjoy it!
Great content! I like watching you and Dork in-the Road videos. I live in Ga and have a Honda 04 Honda crf230f that is street legal ( tag, lights) and want to learn more about gravel riding. You ride vey fast on sand and it’s a bit intimidating! Any recommendations on educational videos about riding offroad, gravel, rocks, and sand that you would recommend. Bret Tcaks offers a course here in Dahlonega Ga that I was thinking about but it’s pricey. Anyway great videos. The Tranalp series especially. The air filter is a maintenance is a big downer. I’ll keep watching you
Very useful video! I downsized to Yamaha XT250 last year - primary reason why I picked it was the lowest seat height combined with the highest ground clearance. Next, in order of priorities, Weight, Reliability, Price. It's been amazing. This year I want to add KLX300 for direct comparison. Thank you for the great videos!
Nice one Ian!
Learned to ride on a brand new 1985 XL 350R when I was 19 years old. Wish I still had it. Graduated to a bunch of mid late 80's sport bikes. Left the bikes behind in my later 20's and after a long gap bought a new DR650 in 2019. Five years of comuting and weekend off road riding and lots of aftermarket parts, I just purchaced a new Norden 901 to have something more highway friendly and 2-up capable. Love it so far. No intention of getting rid of the DR though, unless I get something like the KLX300 to replace it.
Thanks Ian! Another great vid. I stepped down from a KLR and F650GS because of weight. I currently have a XT250 which is great, but looking to either a 310GS or 390adv for more longer on road camping. BMW is offering great deals right now at 0% and the 3 year warranty
Morning Ian, cool idea for a video.
All good advice 👍 I picked a KLX250 for my reentry after three decades of not riding, the brain thinks it can still ride dirt, but the body has forgotten. Soon after I found a 2011 KLX250 with a 300 OEM top end with only 870km on if. I t had a pipe on it, so the hole swap saved me $1500. Had the power I needed for my 100kg arse and adding a IMS tank, SC seat, a fork/shock rebuild from a specialist & KDX larger snorkel it was the perfect ride to relearn basics & to be able to ride safe. I have only just upgraded a tad after two yrs to a KLX400e & sad about selling the beloved 300.
Take possession of a Himalayan 450 in a week or two, but keeping the 400 for single track rides & other rides where the weight & newness of the Himalayan prohibit (I don't want it scratched up yet). So I think I played it smart to come back to my youthful love of bikes in the bush.
Great topic to come back to. 👍
PS, sorry if I have already told this story. A Used KTM350 might also fit the bill too. And I haven't dropped a bike for at least 6 months, except for tomorrow 😁🤕
You just spoke my mind sir ( thought ) . Love from INDIA ❤. This is exactly what I was looking for, but from a trusted channel like you.
Thanks for the video. I just bought the old model Royal Enfield Himalayan 411. It's not on the list but still I find it a confidence inspiring bike. Maybe it's a bit heavy but I find it easy to handle. Haven't done any serious off-roading yet but I hope I will be able to do so when finally the spring starts in Finland 😊
Excellent video... I live off grid and the dirt roads are very rough. My truck can only do 5 mph due to road conditions. I've been seeking a dual sport for a backup transportation... This helps me figure a few ideas for my purchase.
Nice guide! I currently have a 200cc dual sport just for this purpose of learning. It's nice to hear I'm on the right path.
I wouldn say not to worry too much on the seat height. It's better to learn what that feels like on a lighter weight bike, I think.
Will you review the cfmoto 450 MT / Ibex when it becomes available? I would appreciate your opinion on that bike
I had a 390 and on my scale it was 400 pounds. But it was a very fun bike. For long hwy trips going up one tooth in the front works really well. The aftermarket flat foot pegs are worth the money. My only complaint was the suspension was not difficult to outride off road. Different fork springs helped with that.
Hi Ian,
Excellent. Must get younger riders into the game.
A great job as always
I appreciate that
Thank you for opening my eyes to more bikes than I was previously considering. For instance I’ve really been eyeballing the CRF300L, but had not even considered the BMW you featured. I’ve also been looking at a KTM 790, but completely bypassed the KTM 390.
I have lots of data to crunch now and this was a perfect video for me.
Good advice, and I think the reason not many big adventure bikes see the dirt is because as you mentioned the owners probably have a smaller dual sport in the garage also which they use for actual intentional off-road rides, and when they bought their big bike for road use they just wanted something they know they could also take down the odd trail here and there if they want to. But smaller bikes are definitely the way to learn, will cost much less and hurt much less if it lands on you WHEN you drop it
Excellent advice of course!
Kind of surprised you didn't add the DRZ 400?
only because i felt the seat height is just too much
Good content and well presented. Another option too, once you get comfortable with one of these bikes, it could be your "forever" bike depending on your age/goals/abilities.
Ian, let me just point out your setup, the lights, background and colors are absolutely insane! I feel so comfy watching this video, outstanding work, really.
Thank you very much for all your hints, they are pure gold.
As for me, i just finished a 3 day trip with my trusty V-Strom 650, first time offroad and with 25k kms street tyres, i've been laughed at first, then i gained respect from all the guys there, they kept saying "how does he f******* do that!?!?" They also knee at me once Hahaha!! 😂
Sometimes it's also the willpower of the rider that really makes a difference...
Ian, another excellent and informative video. I do have a question, would you do a video on the best bikes for beginners who are over 6 ft 2 in tall and weigh over 200 lbs.? Thanks
Great suggestion!
Haven’t watched yet but my 300L has to in top three.
So stinking easy especially compared to my 450RL.
Thanks Ian
Always appreciate your content.
Enjoy your riding good sir!
🏍️💨
Much Enjoyment 👍😎
Thank you. This video target was sure someone like me 😁💙🔥
Edit: One question, what would you think of the DR400 and the XT660? Both have called my attention
Just bought the 390 Adventure and can confirm the fun part is spot on.
Glad to here you recommend keeping a DUAL SPORT after you get a larger ADV Bike. I love my WR250 as much as my GS1250. Great Video
Right on!
FYI. You tested way more than 20k$ of riding gear. Great Video. I use your affiliate links whenever possible.
Thanks Ian, I just bought the KLX300 2 months ago, after watching your videos! and yes, the seat height is too high. I’ll most likely lower it- otherwise it’s great. I tried finding a used dual sport for quite a while (Las Vegas) and found the few used ones which were typically 10-15 years old and were in the $5k price range. So availability, lack of documentation, and price lead me to purchase a new bike. It took many different attempts at many different dealerships before I bought at a fair price. I answered many great ads that had a great sale price, only to have the freight, dealer prep, and doc fees jacked up, and one even gave me an out the door price that was acceptable (In a well itemized text) then denied that they made the offer. I finally found a dealership in California that had 0 dealership fees and would beat any other offer. My OTD price for the KLX300 was $7040 with me being responsible for the licensing in another state. This is in comparison to the $8600 that everyone else wanted as their out the door price. I hope this information helps anyone thinking about buying new, or what to expect when looking for used.
Great info thank you
The mighty DR.
May the Doctor live for ever!
If you know you know.
Nice to see the drz400 come out on top once again.
It wasn't on this list. I'm surprised because I love mine. With a 1" lowering link and DRZ400SM kickstand it's even better (for me). I wouldn't mind adding a DR650 to the stable though. Just for those rides where I have to ride more on the pavement to get to the trail that isn't too technical for 50/50 or maybe 70/30 trail/road tires.
So good, it's not worth mentioning🤣
I am enjoying mine. A great step up in excitement from the TW200, which I still have and enjoy. It may be approaching the not-so-beginner friendly whiskey-throttle land.
Seat height is far away from „beginner friendly“ :-)
@@whataboutjeff Yeah, seat height really is an issue with the DRZ400. Not for short people. I'm just average height with a 30" inseam and it's too tall for me in the stock configuration.
@whataboutjeff your going to be calling the nice folks at Seat Concepts for ANY of these bikes
i was a little surprised the royal enfield himalayan wasn't on this list, beyond that i completely agree with the video.
and thanks for the help, from your videos, on deciding to get a Suzuki VStrom 800DE. It honestly rides like a dream!
i thought about it, but it didn't make the cut of being under 400 lbs,.
Nice choices! Had a 300L and loved it but on the freeway NOPE........ sold it and got a KTM 390 and love it..... and as stated they are cheaper if you look hard. Does what I need and light when dropped ! and yes not as great offroad as the CRF but it works great for gravel roads and lighter dirt trails. I am not ass young and spry as I used to be so the days of motocross are way behind me...... 😄
Great outline, I'm still very tempted by the 300l, TW200, and DRZ 400. I do a fair bit of cycling and the bike I have the most fun with is my fat bike which makes me think the TW200 would be a great match for me. I just wish the riding season was longer in Canada.
If you want to just get out and see stuff, keeping the speeds down or not tackle too technical terrain at higher speeds, the TW200 is great. Fun looks, fun handling, comfortable exploring. One reason its more of a farm bike than a MX or enduro is less suspension travel, and those big tires are heavy so the suspension it has has to fight more unsprung weight. The DRZ400 goes towards enduro/mx land in performance, more than double the engine output of the detuned run-on-anything TW200 without a more MX maintenance schedule like the CRF450R. It is tall, and the weight is high, so more of a challenge to start with. I have and love both, but could see myself enjoying a CRF250 or KLX230 or KLX300 in place of either. Especially of the TW200 since maybe I've outgrown it.
Great video as always, thank you.
I haven't looked at the kawasaki 230s as i fell into the camp of thinking it's too small of an engine for 100km/h and less aftermarket parts are available. I've only sat on the crf300 rally and i was on the balls of my feet
The biggest concern i have with the kawasaki is due to something i read on the forums. Apparently if you stall it on a hill you can't start the bike again until you're on level ground? Do you know anything about this?
have you reviewed the electronic carbs? what is your opinion of those?
I have a versys x300 absolutely a great bike. It is all you need.
I agree with Ian about new short riders getting their feet down. As a 26" inseam rider, it was personally better to learn how to ride a motorcycle that I could get both feet down first so I could focus on every other aspect of riding. Once I felt confident riding, I started getting on taller bikes and got comfortable 1 footing it and sliding off the seat as needed.
Looking forward to seeing a Scrambler 400 review. I imagine there's more capable bikes in class (390ADV or Himalayan 452) but I'm a sucker for genuinely more capable retros
For me the KTM 390 adventure is ideal. As most of my riding is onroad, with offroad whenever I can, it is a quick, great handling, light machine. Offroad it works fine. Had a Tenere 700, too heavy to drop riding solo. Had a CRF250L, great offroad, bland on road. Had a Himalayan, boring on road, fine offroad but never thrilling.
And more than anything, it comes down to tyres (tires) for offroad riding anyway I reckon.
I had a lot of fun on a 3 day off-road trip in Sierra Gorda MX - using Honda XR150s. I loved the bike so much I went and bought one myself.
awesome
Surprised you didn’t mention the rally with the 300l. I assume you recommend the rally as well?
Great list and honestly I really wonder what ones have cruise control as an option cause having the ability to easily lay down interstate miles would be a total selling point for me
none of these
We get so boned in Europe.
More then half are not available. I guess the 390adv, gs310, versys300 and honda 300L are the best around here from your list.
Dual sport bikes can be found on the second hand market but having to deal with higher maintenance, carburated, kickstart bikes is not great for beginners.
Most are registered as an old-timer.
I'm on the lookout for second-hand, I really don't want to spend the money on the newer ones, they are too costly for me. Something like the DRZ400 could be found around 3K
Does the 300ls share the same suspension problems of the rally and standard models? 🙃🙂
Ι would add Voge 300 rally
I would love if you had an used motorcycle series where you buy and test old bikes then resell etc... and of course compare to modern standards
Can I get your opinion on a CSC TT250? I wanted to purchase a dual sport to learn as much as possible while not spending as much, and once I’m better then invest more.
more versys 300 content please
@bigrockmoto best reviews on youtube.
For a beginner rider who wants to start exploring the country on a motorbike. More road and light offroad. Which bike is the best as first bike? Gs310 or ktm390adv?
So, I'm 6'3" and am currently 300lbs. I am committed to getting back down to around a healthy 210 or so, and riding is one of my main motivators. I've been looking at the DR650 for some time but was concerned about my own weight being a deterring factor. Should I be concerned? Also, how old is too old for a used DR650?
it's like pouring salt into my wounds everytime i see these videos about dr650 or the drz, and by that i mean the fact that we can't get them in Europe since forever (we don't have the grandfather clause).
during the pandemic prices for a used one skyrocketed, i have not checked lately but a drz could go for 3500$ depending on the exchange rate. (one is advertised now for ~3200$ year 2004)
I think i should have a crf150l for offroad and crf1100l for tour and easy trail riding
Great video but after mentioning second hand, where was the WR250R 😮😮
I'm eyeing up my boys brand new CRF125FB
Interesting list. I would think the DR400 would be at the top of your list. Cost, reliability, excellent off road and
major aftermarket support.
Resale value is also very good.
it is just too tall for most riders under 5'10 or 1.78m
You’re not kidding about the resale value. I’ve been trying to get my hands on one of these used and most folks want to charge what they paid for new
O6:25 is when the list starts.
What about new CFMOTO 450MT?
Please reveiw Kove 450 Rally street legal version! Very curious what you think of that bike.
coming soon
You should try the Voge 300 Rally and the Fantic Caballero 500 also. Fantastic offroad machines for a decent price.
not in the USA
@@BigRockMoto is that a problem? You can do a test with them next time you go to Europe for a press launch. 😊👍
no drz400?
I’ve been riding an XR 650 L for the past 10 years. I’ve dumped it over several times and that thing is a heavy pig to get up off the ground, which is why I would never buy a big heavy adventure bike. It’s too scary in case of a crash, now I’m in the market for a KTM 500 exc-f or The XR 450 RL I want something more modern and lightweight is a big plus!
Ian, the reason you might NOT have been given a press KV300X to review is you call “real balls & strikes come what may. And if you where to check it’s scheduled 6000+ mile check-up & more importantly what a dealership would charge for a oil change, valve check & proper reset to specs, you could buy a new KV300X at the cost of 3 - 4 visits ! The biz model is like selling razor handles for a lost on the front end as to make a huge profit selling its razors on the back end, LOL. The KV300X MC is a great fun “explorer mc “ like the Honda XL 150 but can go on highways / interstates at a safe speed !!! So sad a practice for a such a fun explorer bike…..
will you be testing the Himalayan 450?
Yes
The 1250gs was my first bike, i would'd recomend it to anyone, is easy to ride
I think the dual sport bikes are the way to go learning how to ride the trails. Can’t say much on the other 2 small ADV bikes, but I have the KTM 390 Adventure and I wouldn’t consider that bike for beginners or learning how to ride off road. Maybe if you’re riding dirt roads with some riding experience. The weight and the seat height are the main reason. If you tilt the bike just a little, most people won’t be able to keep it from falling over, especially on a trail with unusual grades.
2 years in, had the xt250, great bike but a tad too slow on the highway with gear, upgraded to a 2023 ktm 390 ADV, great so far, and 0 zeros, there are some new spy shots in India of what they are calling the 390 enduro.
Where might you put the Scrambler400X and Himalayan 450 in this list?
they are not under my 400 lb mark, but could work for larger riders who are strong enough
@@BigRockMoto Ahh, got it. Thank you
I am once again asking for a review on the Versys-X 300.
(Also if you've got the ear of a Kawasaki rep please tell them to put the 450 in it. I'll even settle for the old 400.)
I have a vefsys 300. What do you whant to know ?
@@Fiatmannen1 How is the highway comfort? What is the valve service like? How does it handle loose surfaces like gravel or uncompacted dirt and sand?
@@THR33SIXX3MPYR highway is just fine 120kmh no problem it tops out at 160 kmh. You should get a extra wind defkectir or bigger screen. Dirt roads no problem, has not bottomed out yet. Sand dont know. Valves is at 12000km.
There is talk about it running hot but this is a misconception. The gauge can show all segments but this is ok it is not until the red light goes on there is any danger.
How did you skip the DRZ400s?!?!
In Europe we have the Voge 300 Rally. Cheapest and best of them all. No brainer. 5 year warranty. From the factory that does BMW engines and with Bosch electronics.
Ok so I’m 54 years old 6’3” tall and 260 pounds I live in northern Michigan and mainly just want to ride dirt/gravel roads and price doesn’t matter oh ya and never had a motorcycle before so what would you recommend ? I really want a Norden 901 or desert x which I’m pretty sure both are bad ideas to start with thanks and love your videos
kawasaki klr650
Any thoughts about the cf moto 450mt/ ibex
too heavy for this list plus it's too new for me to recommend
What about V Strom 250
The Honda XR 150L is not sell in Portugal and in the rest of Europe
No DRZ-400S?
One related topic that I rarely hear/read…how much mountain bike experience does the rider have?
Understanding balance and the theory of two wheels cannot be understated.
No love for the Honda CB500x/NX500, which I find odd given your inclusion of the KTM 390 Adventure. For learning to off-road, the CB500X gets the job done and it's a better touring bike than the other ADV bikes you mentioned. I'm guessing you've omitted it because it's wet weight is about 440 lbs, but despite that it's pretty easy to maneuver. I think most new riders would be happier with an inexpensive, used CB500X than they would with a Kawi Versys 300 or a BMW G310GS.