How To Re-string A Floyd Rose
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Thank you so much, Phil! You just completely cured me of ever wanting a guitar with a Floyd Rose. \m/
Its not difficult at all, people make it sound harder than it is. It takes only 10 min if you are used to it. Perfect tuning stability and I even use a Floyd Rose Special, which people say sucks haha. Its all about a correct set up!
@@MG-ln1yw definitely. I've had a Schaller Floyd, licensed, and Special, and I never had an issue with either of them. Setup IS key, as you stated. A spacific set of strings, will almost always ensure near perfect bridge return also.
I found it easier too, during the winding step. I string up all the strings, with no string slack, do the "tune o matic," string tie at the key. While the bridge is down, and after I string up all the strings, I found it easier than a block, to wind each string in sets of twos. Both Es at the same time, A and B, then D and G little bits at a time, until the bridge plate goes back to flush with top. I discovered, that almost always, when the bridge is flush, the tuning goes back to the previous tuning. I skip the string stretch, and dip and raise the bar a few times for strerching. Tune with the keys again, stretch with the trem, tune again, until the tuning stays in tune. Believe it or not, it will stay in tune once they've stretched enough. That's when I lock and fine tune. But that worked for me, so far I haven't seen anyone else do it. But the springs and strings and adding tension, is sort of like bolting a flange for heavy steal piping, and or tightening bolts on your tire. Generally you would use a star method of tightening, so that one side of a flange doesn't leak and adds equal pressure around the flange, like your tire. Same with the Floyd, little bits of tension two strings at a time helps bring the bridge back where it was.
Here is the trade. Take all the time you spend tuning and retuning your fixed bridge guitar, total all that up over the course of a year and it will be way longer than the time to properly set up your floyd rose. Change one string at a time and its easy. The only time it's hard is if you completely remove the floyd and the claw underneath. Changing guage strings also causes a headache. But I've used the same guage for 20 years. As Guitarists we get very set in our ways like an old mechanic... "Carburetors are way easier and better than fuel injection!''... Nope you just have to learn it.
Once the guitar is tuned and the springs are in balance and if you never change gauges, brand or tuning, you can have a lot of fun with the FR. ;-)
Philip, I'm thankful that you, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Nuno, George Lynch and many others aren't afraid of Floyds like a lot of your viewers. Great tip on the little blocks , stretching and being easy.
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Phil: you dont always have to use your ear, use your other senses.
Me: starts violently licking the strings
Philip, thanks again. I've been playing Floyds since 1983. Jacksons, Kramers and custom V. Some floating some to the body ala Eddie. I prefer the one at a time method. With the floating bridge it should be level with the body and once the new string is stretched out and tuned to pitched the bridge will be level again. I love changing strings and my friends guitars too. Installing strings on new build can be more difficult and time consuming. Look forward to all your videos.
Thank you again for taking the stigma away from someone working on a Floyd Rose.
Exactly how I have been restringing my guitars with that set up for years using the Trem Lock and never had an issue.
Been struggling with string changes on my floyd for ages. This video has been my saviour! Thank you
Love that paint swirl👍
Hydro dipping, it does some neat effects.
@@TheRealReTox yeah it does. I've been thinking about trying it. I build some custom guitars and basses, just as a hobby. I might give it a try. Soon but I've building a bound Tele bass short scale right now.
@@j_freed LOL washbum. You know the best sounding acoustic guitar I ever heard was an old 12 string Washburn. It was piano loud too.
@@UncleDanBand64 I've been daring myself to try it with and older guitar I got. It "looks" easy enough to do but we know how that goes.
@@TheRealReTox yeah man go for it. All you need is a Squire a barrel some water and paint. I've got a ton of Bronco bass bodies. All I use is the necks from them. I might just give it a try on one. I've got a stack of them.
Just restrung my son's floyd guitar. (squier contemporary) -- B/c of your teaching, bought the tremblock and followed your instructions. So much easier than before. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
I might buy a Floyd rose guitar now, I feel less intimidated, your videos are great!
C’mon Harbor Freight ain’t no junk mail
I felt a litttle guilty about saying that as well. Lol
Their precision screwdrivers with all sizes of hex heads is pretty handy for RC and Guitar and a lot of their stuff is fine for light to medium duty if your not a pro who uses the tools all day every day.
Harbor Freight doesn't sell the greatest tools, but if you can't afford snapon or kobalt, it's the place to go.
Plus a lot of their stuff has a lifetime warranty so you really can't lose.
I used a Harbor Freight chainsaw sharpener wheel for 2 seasons as a full time climber. I had a coupon, think it was $25 out the door. Sold it on Craigs for 30 bucks when I got a real one. I probably sharpened 25 chains with it, and they are big Stihl pro saws. Also got their soldering gun kit that I've used exclusively for guitars, cords and I fixed a TS9 with it...ten bucks. HF is okay if ya know what to get and its not critical.
Had no idea a Floyd Rose was so much maintenance.....just bought one and will learn to live with it but now thinking maybe a fixed bridge would have been better...oh well....at least your videos are there to help and you make great videos....thanks so much.
Great job! This makes a Floyd far less intimidating and pairs well with Uncle Ben's video. I'm going to have to get a lefty now.
I've had a Floyd Rose for 30 years, and this video is WAY more complicated than it needs to be. I love Phil, but you don't need a block of any kind, ever. The equilibrium of string tension to spring tension will take over, which he did mention by adjusting the claw. But just take all the strings off, put 'em on, then just tune up. The bridge will set itself to level when it's in tune (equilibrium!), assuming you've previously adjusted the claw, which you should only have to do once. Easy peasy.
I'm definitely sharing this to some facebook groups.. there seems to be a lot of guitarist that "hate" Floyd Rose, but I believe its more of they're "afraid" of Floyd Rose.
I just put folded cardboard under the bridge. I put lemon oil my fretboard every string change. Great video, im sure this will help many.
"Shredneck TremBlock"
I use the backplate that covers the cavity the springs are in. Works the same way.
No shit. He literally used junk mail to show you can use anything
I knew the theory behind this but spent a morning getting my Ibanez FR adjusted/intonated correctly. To adjust the height and intonation, I just removed the strings on the back which took the tension off and so could increase/decrease the pivot screw height and the saddles back and forth. Putting the springs back should get the guitar nearly back in tune. You definitely need to do this a few times and then you get a "feel" and become one with the Floyd. It's a challenge but one well worth it :)
I literally spent all morning dealing with this nonsense! I just finished 20 minutes before I saw this video! lol! Such good advice!
Damn. I just set up my floyd from scratch using your method. Cool vid. Worked perfect. When I was a teen i literally thought i broke my guitar after changing strings and sold it for 60 dollars. If I only knew then. Took this long to try a floyd again.
Have a Washburn with a Floyd Rose, is about 25 years old, hated it ever since I changed the first set of strings. After watching the video, I'm convinced that the only thing it has going for it is it's going on Craigslist.
Thanks Phil. I am currently doing my first guitar build. I would like to use a Floyd Rose trem. This video helped me a great deal. Thanks so much for being such a great guy. Thanks again.
Awesome! I bought a sweet, used Jem 7WH and I'm terrified to change strings or even tune it, to be honest. So I'm always super-appreciative for these vids re: floating bridge.
Thanks! I’ve watched a bunch of other videos on this subject and not knowing anything I could see they were over complicating things. Thanks for this simple fix. I need to find someone who can 3D print a block or spacer to restrict the bridge when not needed.
Thanks so much for posting this Phil. I emailed the link to myself so when I have to restring my Wolfgang and my Ibanez Jem Jr. I'll have what I need to do it correctly. As usual thank you for your time for doing these instructional videos.
Thank You Phillip, I just ordered my first Floyd Rose guitar from Sweetwater, cant wait to get it lol
yep. i just restrung my floyd rosed schecter banshee for the first time and it took 2 and a half hours.but afterwards i played some EVH licks and it is all worthy:)))
Wow. I had an LTD Kirk Hammett that was so awesome I could remove all the strings, all the blocks, the locking nut and all the strings. Restring put blocks back, tune, replace nut, and shred without even touching the springs and the floyd stayed perfectly floating every time with no issues....swear to God it took less then 10 minutes to change the strings with no problems during or after...lol.
Definiely a big help for those with limited experience. Well done Phil.
All my Floyds are non floating. Makes it easier to deal with. Awesome Phillip!
Same here Johnny! Less grief and more playing!
How is that possible?
Thanks for another great instructional video, Phil. After watching this video, I'm thinking how much I really love my Bigsby.
Man. Tiny pieces you can easily lose and break. All this setting up. Floyd rose is such a nightmare
That is the coolest N4 I've ever seen!! Wow!!
I finally got to where I can setup a floyd. I put a socket under the bridge. Like where you put the paper. Then I loosen all the strings, take them off. Put on the new ones. Tune up make any slight adjustment of the claw. And I'm done. I found it works if I have the bridge pretty level when it's in tune befoe I take out the socket. Sometimes it falls out on its own. Plus you gotta stretch the strings good.
Great tips. I've been having a little bit of difficulty getting one of the strings to lock in on my '92 Jackson Dinky XL. I just checked and, yep, the block is cracked into two pieces. Looks like I've been tightening them too much. Thanks.
Very easy to understand and thorough “how to” video that also helps me understand why many don’t want to deal with a Floyd Rose system. I’m sure it is easy once you get used to it but I’ll pass on buying a guitar with that bridge for now.
So glad I've never had any urge to buy a guitar with a Floyd Rose :)
They're really not as bad as they look. My first guitar had a Floyd Rose. Now I've got two with and two without.
Tone vise looks cool. And floyd rose really arent that bad to deal with just gotta know what ur doing. Junk mail line was pretty funny and u dont gotta buy a special tool lol
just a thanks i for this video i broke two strings trying to string up my new Jem before watching this so i bought a new pack and watching this i did it perfectly
lol thx for the video i’ve been struggling so much with my floyd rose on my jackson until i watched this video
Never had or wanted a Floyd-equipped guitar, but you certainly made the video interesting. Thanks for putting it up.
Thanks Phil. I was really scared to change strings on my FLoyd-equipped axe but this was super easy and straight=forward to follow.
Oh man I love that guitar!!! Great Nuno signature!! I I absolutely love his solo work....
Dude, I just became a fan! Awesome videos. I just subscribed and gonna have a watchathon! Lol
Thanks brother.
If you are using the same gauge strings you can put a CD case cover under the bridge to keep it level and then when the strings are in tune you able to slide case lid right out from under the bridge.
I would also use a cassette lid.
I’ve been doing it that way since the 80s.
Wow that guitar is freakin amazing🔥⚡
I love how in your videos you always have some nice little tool for the job, but then you're immediately like "Or you can just use some random junk from around the house so you don't have to spend money."
Good vid. I started putting a Tremol-NO on all my floating Floyd’s. Make this much faster and easier.
A beginner question: I've been thinking of buying the Tremol-No, so when installed, can we restring the guitar like a fixed bridge(I know I'm dumb😂)
@@eshaandaksh2968 exactly
I'm soooo jealous of the autographed N4
This method works, But I just leave the ball end on(don't cut it off) and run it through the tuning key and cut it at the tail of the Floyd Rose bridge. Gives you a perfect two-half wraps and your not fumbling trying to held the string in place while you turn the turner.
Using the "One for One" replacement method has been the fastest for me when the goal is to get back to a stable and tuned instrument as quick as possible. While the technique shown here may be faster to physically replace the strings, the re-tuning takes much longer (in my experience) as the strings stretch unevenly all at once. Still, Floyds are easy compared to those pin-ended Bigsby's that are strung over a floating bridge! I fear for my safety every time I change my Gretsch strings.
Thanks phil this video really helps i ve bin struggling with my dkmg jackson's flyod and now its alot easier thanks agian
Great video Phill, and very helpful for those struggling changing there strings on a floyd, Cheers
I think a 59 Les Paul in perfect condition would be scarier to restring but that's just me
I used to stick a folded wash cloth under there. Worked fine.
A Floyd is not as scary as the truss rod. For most, they have no idea what it does, how it works or how to adjust it properly. That would be a good video to make.
Good video! Two of my guitars have the FR tremolo, although I put a Tremol-No on one of them. I use the one string at a time method when replacing the strings and stretch them as I go. If I tune the low E to pitch it is an E flat by the time I get down to the high E string. Anyone else experience this? Does this imply there's something wrong with the guitars setup?
Had an Ibanez S470 back in the late 90's. Loved the guitar - ended up hating the Floyd Rose after a while so I sold it. Hard tail all the way ever since! :-) This video would have probably saved me some frustration. Great video Phil!
Thankfully i took the floyd rose plung as a wee high schooler so they arent scary anymore. I use em as a light tremelo which is like using a machete to open a letter, but hey, i like the system
This was very helpful. You know, you'd think that they could include a built-in spring/string relief mechanism, like a bolt that slides and locks from either direction in the body to hold the block in place just so.
Thanks for the awesome video Phillip, glad I made the right choice in returning my floyd rose equipped guitar. Thanks
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Great video. I have a few Floyd's and I always like to see new tricks on how to work on them. Happy Halloween🎃
Wow, that made sense, even to me! Thanks for that...you rock, Phil!
Some tool put 26 Canadian pennies in my Ernie Ball Music Man JPXI 7 FBR that I bought used from Guitar Center. Had to remove that crap and then I found out the pickup was flipped. I had to solder a piece of 4 conducter wire from another pickup laying around to make the wire long enough to orient the bridge pickup with the rail towards the bridge. I got it to stay in tune after stretching the new strings I put on. Finally I have 2 Ernie Ball Music Man Petrucci 7 string guitars with the mag/piezo outs. Wish they would do that for Sterling 7 strings as well.
I thought that one is JEM DNA until I saw the cut away and look closely to the bridge. That Washburn looks nice, especially with Nuno's signature on it.
I have an Ibanez S470 with ZR bridge on it. Not strictly a Floyd Rose, but close enough. Usually I don't cut the ball end off, I leave them on on the tuner side. They just stick out of the tuner by ... probably 1 cm or 5mm. I usually use the 'next tuner' rule -- just measure the string flat with extra same distant as the distant between tuner. Usually that's a good fit on the plain strings, but might be a bit too long on the wound strings.
The excess ball end does not cut my finger like the cut strings, so I leave it that way. It probably has down sides though.
I am currently fighting with the G string, as it does not want to stay in tune for long. I have to unlock the nut from time to time (I put Elixir on it as I don't want to restring as often). Still identifying what is the problem. May be caused by the ball that I leave it on the tuner lol.
I leave the ball end on at the tuner side - it acts as a stopper makes it way easier for me.
As always, a very helpful video!!!
I know a lot of players that dont cut the ball and of the string off they string it through the tuning peg.I have never tried that but they swear by it.
I just replace the tuners with locking tuners and get rid of the locking nuts, and tune it using the tuner and the spring claws. It takes a bit longer, but eventually it gets in tune and the bridge is flush.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, wait a sec there Phil.................Harbor Freight coupons are NOT "junk" mail!! 😝
Phillip you are a master in so many areas! I only play Floyd Rose guitars, and although it can take time to master a setup and re-string, this video makes it very easy! Thank you my friend for sharing your many skills with us! Your new guitar looks fantastic! Will you have other color or graphics options eventually?
Thanks Phillip! I've been putting off even looking at a guitar I have with a floyd rose - suppose i should give it a try now!
Love the logo
Hey Phil. Thank you for the super usefull tech tips. I have the dumbest question EVER... How do HOLD floyd rose springs on the tremolo side? Not on the "spring plate" side. They keep jumping all the time! Aren't those supposed to hold on a balance? On my ibanez Lo Trs trem II they have some sort of a little hole that holds the spring, because it locks there. But on my Ibanez Jem Jr. Tremolo they keep jumping! Thanks in advance
I have never seen an N4 as crazy as this one. Would love to know when they made these.
Great... Came to see if I don't know something about restringing Floyds and now I have to buy this MULTI-TASK LADDER... It's only $109.99!
What I don't understand is why you can't just use the TremBlock to keep the bridge level even if you have all strings off?
I prefer adding tension to the springs until a block falls out, don't have to fiddle with getting stuff out from behind the springs.
A floyd rose is like a good woman.
It takes some work, but in the end it's worth it.
I have been asking for a video like this in the KYG live chat on Fridays... Then I found this video... LOL ... Thanks Phil ! I have a Jem with an Edge zero (?) trem but i assume it is similar to work with
Nuno sig on the back. Rad.
I wonder if anyone else uses the same method I do. I always switch all strings at once (I like to clean the neck and polish/oil if needed). Then using a poly tune I start to tune the strings towards pitch, tuning half a turn before jumping to the next string. Quickly it will be in tune. Stretch, play lots of bends, retune a few times, lock, done.
The key is the polytune, makes it go quite fast.
Awesome video Phil! Thank God I just have a Kahler on my Aria.
Dude I have a B.S. In Physics and a Master s in Computer Modeling and I'm confused. I need to watch this a few times.
Oh man & I just happen to have a theoretical B.S. degree in Quantum Mechanics?...Either way, I ditched those Floyd Rose based headaches at 13, when my little 2 year old bull of a brother, did me the favor, of stomping the headstock off of my lazily placed goldenish 86' Ibanez, a neck through coil tapped pro line 2250 guitar, though the resulting Floyd Rose, allen wrenched balancing act high wire high action war with tunability resulted in based deep seated Trauma's, which decades later, has me effected as I'm obsessing over exclusively hardtail Fender strats. & In just these events, I scientifically vouch for and recommend, if not openly control freakishly compel, everyone in my particular chosen field, to immediately get associated, exclusively, with a solid state fixed bridge, as who could ever argue that the vibrations of life are not all too short, to be all self willingly getting off the rails, and tangled up in the weeds and Floyd Rose bushes ? Just get comfortable with dive bombing on whammy pedal, if you must?...LoL...8)
It’s really not hard once you get the hang of it. If you get a Floyd Rose right they play better than any solid bridge guitar. Also the floating bridge cancels out minor out of tuneness than compared to a fix bridge.
Vanessa Koh it’s funny people with all these $60,000 degrees can’t seem figure out how to get a Floyd rose setup ...
Love your vids Phillip
I always loaded the ball end at the tuning key, no slip no problem
I did too. I used D'Addario strings, so I had pretty colors on the headstock. lol!
N4 that looks like a Jem amazing!
Man, thanks a million! My Jackson sounds perfect now.
RRALLY GREAT METHOD!
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Love Tech Tuesday !
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Looks like the Perfect Guitar for a Halloween Episode !
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Love That Opening Theme !
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Yeah !
That was a great video !
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Wow !
And females complain about the time and energy consumed by just putting make up on !
Nothing but my sympathies to females that have to put on make up AND re string their Floyd Rose Tremolo system !
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Excellent Ending !
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Great Show !
Thanks, Phil, For All That You Do !
Happy Halloween Everyone !
I know this video is old, but I’m having trouble getting the thick E-string to sit in the tremolo, it keeps popping out as I tune it, and that obviously means I can’t use the whammy bar should I get it to sit, any advice on this?
Thanks in advance
great video Phil!
Great lesson but I would never own a floyd rose ...lol you just convinced me
What about restringing the string with the ball end holding in the tuner(s)? I did that with my Ibanez RG550, and seemed fine as well. I’d cut the string just passed the block area where the strings go in. I did have to run the “low E” the usual way, as it was a 10-52 set for Drop B, because the winding by the ball was too thick. But maybe it’d be ok with a 9-42/10-46 gauge set?
Ty! I have an Ibanez but I have a Tremsetter. Cud you help explain a lil to make it easier on tuning? Thank you, Jim
If you change one string at a time do you put something like junkmail under the tremelo with each string change and take it out as you tune each string?
That's a fine looking guitar over there :)
Yes! Best explanation I’ve seen.
Phil knows what he is doing! 😉😁
Its all relative I guess. I've used a Floyd Rose since 1988, and have never once had a issue setting it up and using it. Floating or decked. In fact, the time spent re-stringing it or starting from a no string setup was a opportunity to check on the guitar's overall health. It gave me a better understanding on how guitars actually work. Not to mention the skills to never resort to the local "guitar tech" goon charging for a half assed setup. It just astounds me how lazy guitarist can be when it comes to their own instruments.
Imagine, if you will, a world where 12 string guitars have Floyd Rose locking bridges.
Great Floyd work sir!