Spider-Man: No Way Home A LOVABLE DISASTER
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2022
- Everything Wrong with Spider-Man No Way Home.... but also Everything Right with it too
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Hello there.
Mate have been looking forward to this(Just like count Doku😂) As always thanks for your work in creating this epic and REAL videos not just like these fools who are blind because of ,,Nostalgia"😂😂
Good to have you back and reviewing this new Spider-Man movie I was waiting for this review.
@@supersaiyajin4740 Couldn’t have said all of this better myself bro by the way awesome profile picture and name.
“Why didn’t Dr Strange erase everyone’s memory of Mysterio?”
Holy crap, that’s a good point! 😂
@@boyishdude1234 but being an idiot who thinks it’s ok to mess with a spell instead of telling him before he starts the spell is who Peter is no that is not who he is either
@@Jmanclub-vd7mg Nothing you could ever say on art in general is valid until demonstrated otherwise, on the premise that, ultimately, you seriously believe that the quality of a film is subjective. I never said anything about disliking Endgame. In fact, I never expressed my opinion on Endgame in the first place. Where did you pull this conclusion out of? You certainly didn't base it on my own words.
...I also never said that you liked Endgame. Not unless you can point to any part of my comment where I stated, either explicitly or implicitly, something to the effect of the exact wording "You like Endgame", which I know you can't do because those statements do not exist in that comment.
You honestly expect me to take your "criticisms" of NWH seriously when you think that said criticisms are just your opinions?
The alternative ways that Strange potentially could have used the spell don't matter and are immaterial to the narrative. Characters don't need to make the most logical or rational choices in order to for the writing to be good and make sense, and besides, I think we both know that Strange's ability to use his magic in the "safest possible way" is severely limited without the Time Stone, since the Time Stone lets him check all possibilities of events. This was Peter's choice, not Strange's choice, and in context it makes sense why Peter didn't choose to use the spell in a more "optimal" way. How can you even consider any of things you've said to be valid criticisms in the context of the story?
...You clearly don't understand how the internet works. You can't just "take down Mysterio's video"; nothing on the internet is truly lost forever. You may delete it off the website, but other people more than likely have it downloaded and can just upload it themselves as many times as needed, or even just keep it on their phones, computers, external hard drives/thumb drives, etc. Not to mention that The Wayback Machine is also a thing. What is the Daredevil going to do? Become a totalitarian, anti-free speech dictator that makes it illegal to post the video of Mysterio online, let alone share it through other means? That would be rather counter-productive to convincing the populace that Spider-Man is innocent; it would just make them think Spider-Man is guilty of murdering Mysterio even more.
...It's implied that Doctor Strange has mastered the spell. Just because we're only directly given one example of Strange having used it in the past, that doesn't mean that he's only used it once in continuity.
It's made pretty clear that Strange thought that Peter had not only done everything else to try and get his life back together without achieving success first, but that Peter was fully prepared for the decision that he made. Why else would he have gotten so mad at Peter? Again, narrative context.
You need to learn what the difference is between character decisions or plans not being fully logical or thought out and the writing being flawed. Of course the logic that Peter and Strange had wasn't perfect; if it was they would cease to be human. That's not inherently bad writing. Stop nitpicking media.
You need to rewatch the Raimi films and ASM films. Electro didn't know that Peter Parker was Spider-Man because he never knew that information to begin with. At no point during ASM2 does Electro learn Spider-Man's true identity. The only conclusion that I can reach for why you seem to have this misunderstanding regarding Electro's characterization between the two films is that you're mistaking Electro for The Goblin (ASM2). Harry Osborn (The Goblin) did figure out Spider-Man's true identity, but this was after Peter and Gwen managed to kill Electro. As for The Sandman, he DID help Peter (Holland) when he first met him during the initial encounter with Electro, but after what Peter did to Electro, The Sandman thought that he was going to kill him, and if you're familiar with his characterization in Raimi 3, it's clear that The Sandman will do anything he thinks he has to to save his daughter, and this includes teaming up with the villains if he thinks they have a better chance of getting him home than Peter Parker does. Norman was also perfectly in character; Norman Osborn and The Goblin are two different personalities, two different people, existing inside of the same person, with Osborn being the logical extreme of the positive aspects of his original personality, and The Goblin being the logical extreme of the negative aspects of his original personality. They regularly came into conflict with each other throughout most of Raimi 1, and I don't see how The Goblin was not portrayed correctly; The Goblin IS an alter ego, and not simply Norman's inner darkness that he was trying to hold back.
If you're going to come out swinging with these kinds of accusations or claims, at least bring the receipts first.
@@boyishdude1234 Why are you trying to write the movies for the writers themselves ? You are just giving out excuses out of your own a** and making mental gymnastics.
Point #1: Why the hell would they make the whole movie based on a wish, thats the laziest type of writing you can think of. If Peter had actually used his intelligence and though before talking there is no movie, if Strange actually behaves like a Sourcerer and not like a disney channel show parent who does anything.
Point #2: MCU spiderman, supposedly has gone through a lot, and still shows he learns nothing, oh I know why, because this time is the definitive time and next product will show the Spiderman you know -.-
Point #3: Daredevil says everything that is wrong with the movie. It would just not hold up, had petter actually tried to use intelligence to show evidence this would be basically equivalent to fake news
Point #4: CGI, cinematography, good actual scores, script is non existent in SM NWH. Everything is green screen when it shouldnt (dont give the pandemic excuse, they wanted money and couldn't care about the looks of any film making aspect really). The only good part is when the other SM appear, and even that is so badly done, Andrew just takes off his mask (for the cheers obvisouly 🤣😐).
Point #5: The internet created the movie, they just half assed a script around what they knew the MCU internet shills would go nuts analyzing and making memes.
Point #6: I dare you to rewatch this cRap without your MCU fanboy goggles on and say its good.
I still don't know how Marvel and Disney can make CGI look so advanced but still horrible, most of these movies do not even feel like movies anymore
@@boyishdude1234 I think you are forgetting how that magic works, it literally erases and turns things that will remind of that memory invisible making it impossible to be remembered, some kind of mental shield for forgetting like those who experience trauma, how did you think people forgot who Spiderman is when they just forget his identity when there are literal records and papers proofs and faces of Peter Parker next to SpiderMan saying and proving he is Spiderman, did those disappear or people minds are altered so anytime they see things that remind them of that memory, they are blocked off, instead of seeing papers saying Peter Parker with a picture/s saying he's Spiderman, they actually just seeing a blank piece of paper, same as videos and other records, so there, proving that erasing that video existed will be much more helpful than of erasing the memory that Spiderman is Peter Parker.
@@boyishdude1234 Not saying it is the worst one from the MCU, but definitely not "it isn't perfect", it's bad. Again, you miss what I am trying to say completely, how predictable, how can this be a debate, when you don't see the problem, Dr. Strange is dumb and so is Peter, I would probable understand Peter but Strange isn't going to make a spell this big to Peter without explaining it clearly to Peter, if it was, one of the solutions is what I have already said, erasing the memory of the video and its contents, you even ignored the first things I already told you like how this magic spell work, to really erase the possibility of remembering it. I would hope even you would understand this, but no... You are hopeless.
Honestly, the more I think about this movie, the more critical of it I get. One of my biggest issues is that the villains feel too simplified. The movie wanted to use them for fan service and nostalgia, but didn't bother to truly understand them or do them justice.
The Lizard was done dirty honestly.
@@chocov1233 yes, i hoped he would become good without a cure, Dr. Connors in tasm was a good guy in the end.
Agreed. When I first watched it I probably gave it about a 6.5 but after more consideration I dont like it at all. And the villain problem is something Ive been saying. Like theyre just their. Their characters were already progressed in their movies so they literally couldnt grow anymore. The chemistry between tom and zendaya is awful imo. Spiderman beating Doctor strange. And marvels lack of seriousness. All huge problems I cant overlook. Like Guardians of the galaxy (my favorite marvel product) is a real goofy team but they always know when to show real emotion
The movie is Trash
I loved No Way Home but I couldn’t wait for someone who didn’t like it to critique it. Even though I loved it, there was some flaws in this movie that shouldn’t be overlooked.
applause big time
I thought the same. It just that this movie blew away, but now that I’m back on being a normal guy, I can now say the things I don’t like. One of them was the end credit scene, cause after seeing let it be carnage, I thought that venom would play a role in no way home but he didn’t do crap. The only thing they did is to leave a part of the symbiote for a future role. That is one of my issues but it doesn’t break the movie from me tbh.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
Got to agree with you there. While the film was fun. There are issues with it, a lot of them.
And a lot of wasted potential really. Why not have Anomaly Inc's idea of the villains being from an Alt version of the film universes where the villains are still alive and know each other. You can keep the same actors for them and everything. But see Like he also said Disney/Marvel Ego had to get in the way of course.
@@Chris-de9tm yeah you’re just bored and picking at anything at this point lmao
The fan service and character arcs were all done extremely well (except for lizard) but the plot was pretty rough
That’s what I think Disney marvel is coming to. Nostalgia and fan service over good writing
Naw bro lizard just wants to be a lizard lol
@@ryanp7970 I disagree, the plot is certainly wobbly but the overall characterization of many characters is pretty strong outside of fan service, at least in this movie
Another thing that bugged me was how Toby’s Peter talks about Harry dying right after trying to kill him which is not only nonsense but downright disrespectful. They were literally teaming up and he died saving Peter, it was a selfless sacrifice and they played it as an inconsistent joke
Yes!! That annoyed me
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob It’s like they didn’t even watch the movies they were supposed to pay respect to
true, i laughed for a second when watching it at the cinema
but then i thought "wait that wasn't how it went down"
i was still high off of that adrenaline cause tobey was back lmao
That whole name thing should have went:
"Ok, how about, Peter, Ben and Reilly?"
"Like Uncle Ben."
"And Aunt May's Maiden name."
"Right"
"Ok".
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who liked the Sam Raimi suit and was disappointed when it was destroyed.
But no, Osborn destroying the mask while I suppose "symbolic" in universe, the reasons for such were due to criticisms originally given to the mask and suit when the original movie came out. Both because he didn't look like the original comic iteration, and because the mask blocked one of Dafoe's best acting traits - his face. His expressions make his roles a lot of the time.
So, while I understand the reasons, it still disappointed me to not see the mask and original suit for more of the movie. They could have easily achieved the same thing, I feel, by just having him abandon the mask early on instead of breaking it, and then when the Goblin returns he retrieves the mask for the finale. That I would've been fine with.
I think they destroyed his mask so you can see his facial expressions more
I agree but one fight with the suit and mask on could have been nice though. I actually think the Power boost for Green Goblin was a good thing (And yes I am Green Goblin fan So very biased here, And really wanted a full on film focused around Goblin as the Villain again ) since It shows how much of a force and near equal he is to Spider-Man in the comics and unlike when in 2002 they're limited by the tech and effects of the time to show such powerful fights between the two. It also gives Goblin more menace and threat to Tom Holland's Spider-Man. And fits His role as the main villain of the movie.
And as a Raimi Spider-Man fan it also shows how powerful That Spider-Man had to be to be able to tank blows from such a powerhouse and overpower him. But might be more fan theory than real work on Marvel's part.
Goblin was the best thing in this film to me, out shinning the other villain's easily and being the most accurate to his Raimi storyline.
@@Historyfan476AD in my scenario he would be wearing the mask for the final fight.
And yeah, I'm just as biased as you. Willem Dafoe and Andrew Garfield stole the show in this movie. They were easily the best parts of it for me.
@@ItsOfficiaI Well Can't argue with that. I just wanted a good Goblin on screen and I got it.
I really enjoyed this film but people have been making ridiculous claims about its quality. Like, that it's literally perfect and doesn't have a single flaw, or that Willem Dafoe's performance as Green Goblin outshines Heath Ledger's Joker!
In performances I'd agree that Dafoe beats Ledger, Ledger was good and all but people have over hyped him at this point, even going as far to say that Phoenix didn't even come close with his Joker.
@@TheMonkePrince stop it ledger is far better
Problem is I feel this goblin reminds me more of The Jackal. An anarchist for Anarchy sake
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
@@bilbobaggins9451 no way home is almost rated as high as the godfather lmao
Loved that they did right by Andrew and Tobey along with the villains (except Lizard and Sandman unfortunately), but I hated how dirty they did Doctor Strange and it’s got me worried how they’ll treat him in his own movie.
Also I wish that we got a little more into the lives of the other Spider-Men from where they are in their timelines, maybe find out more about Tobey’s family life and Andrew dealing with the Sinister Six of his universe.
Not to mention that I didn’t like how they wasted Venom for a Post-Credit scene as well.
He's probably Doctor Strange Supreme from the show What If...?, disguised as Stephen Strange.
Lizard was fine. He assumed that he died so joined Goblin. They mentioned that Tobey is with Mary Jane and that Andrew became more merciless, but now calmed down.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
I've already said this, and it's a very risky thing to say. Imagine you are on an island but there is another island over there. You want to conquer it, and they are ruled by a leader.
"Oh, but they're disciplined, and they obey their leader. It's impossible to defeat them." Ah, then we will impose democracy on them. Democratic propaganda! We will promote the most democratic way.
"Oh, but they also possess incredible faith in God! They have such faith in God that they would never abandon the front." Ah, then let's promote atheism. Church time is over. From now on, only night clubs.
"Oh, but the youth are healthy and strong. They're in formidable shape. They are the way the Creator made them: in his image." Ok then, from now on McDonald's, Coca-Cola, drugs, alcohol, video games. Let them be fat, lazy and undisciplined. We must abolish military service.
"Ah... yeah, but the thing is that they're homogenous. They are a single people, a single race. There is no ethnic chaos." Ok, then in whatever way, we must send them boats filled with blacks, whites, Africans, Chinese, Israelites, Muslims.
"But they have a lot of babies! 6 or 7 babies on average! They are happy to start large families!" Ok, from now on abortion, the pill.
You have now defeated that island without even firing a single bullet.
@@Cpk86 4. Dude, did you watch the film? All the colleges rejected him.
43:47 I figured the title no way home is suppose to represent and foreshadow spidermans fate in the end where all his bridges to his normal life get burned down and he must move forward with no home of the past to return to. First the loss of his house, then the lossof his aunt, and finally the loss of everyone’s memory of Peter Parker’s existence.
I actually like that idea but my criticism of this before I read this...
Is that, the writers didn't even established a home in the first place.
Homecoming wasn't even ab Homecoming... Nor did it take place in homecoming event for even a minute.
Far from home makes sense but again there is no home to begin with... New York or his house isn't important to him.
No one home... Well yes u can say, it tears him down... He lost it all. I mean agreed but the movie itself fail to make us care. I actually celebrated the leave. Not sympathize. Aunt may wasn't a character, doctor strange, his own peter side wasn't even a character. It's such as ashame he left without saying a word to His bsf... Ned. But leaving mj was just perfect bc at least it was there in 2 movies
I enjoyed the film despite its flaws. The parts I liked were the Matt Murdock cameo, Tobey and Andrew together, and Tom's Peter Parker interacting with the other Spider-Men. Yes, Dr. Strange seems like an idiot at times, and MJ asking him to say please was cringey af. It could've been executed better.
One thing you forgot to mention is despite Sandman at first wanting to help Tom who he thinks is Tobey, when Tobey actually shows up in the climax Sandman tries to kill him. lol what is your damage Flint?
As for Tom making a new suit and not keeping the others? I feel like we’re missing a scene that might explain that (maybe? hopefully? eh who knows)
That being said I am VERY curious what deleted scenes will be on the dvd. Would those extra scenes have helped the movie or hurt it more?
And poor Strange. They massacred my boy 😭
Thanks for the vid Nomz, and good to have you back.
Good to be back
I think sandman and lizard are the only villains who were not done very well
@@jacksonbrickmedia939
Especially Lizard.
Even Andrew "The GOAT" Garfield aka Peter-Two just casually mentions that he can make a cure for Connors like it's no big deal. In other words, TASM2 (the worst Spidey movie ever made, mind you) & SM:NWH are forever going to make fun of TASM's Lizard plot.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Which is so sad because I actually enjoy TASM 1 a lot. He was the spidey I grew up with. And even though I admit TASM 2 is the weakest big budget spidey flick, I still enjoy many elements from it. It is sad nobody takes TASM 1 seriously
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 he's actually Peter 3
I think the reason why he didnt want Strange to erase the memories of Mysterio is because people would still know that Peter is Spider-Man, they just wouldnt know who told them that.
Exactly.
Yeah but they also could have said, "let the entire world forget mysterio AND everything he ever said"
@@browniebear one thing I don’t see ppl talking about is the fact that if this only effects ppls memory and not the world physically, then none of this should work regardless. Even if everyone forgot, all the media of ppl on the news talking about his identity after they found out would still exist.
one of my friends told me that spiderman 4 will be called ,,Homeless" and 5 ,,find a new home" lmao🤣🤣
My Spider-Man will always be the Rami trilogy. I made sure to avoid No Way Home like the plague because I had ZERO interest. I saw the trailer and all I saw were dollar signs.
Yes, nostalgia can be a good thing but it’s not everything. Whole thing just looked contrived and messy plus I saw the twists coming miles away.
How’s that hypocritical? I’ve been a lifelong fan of the Jurassic series and the Godzilla series; quality over quantity. That and each series takes a break to avoid fan exhaustion unlike Marvel. I avoided No Way Home because I no longer support Marvel. In fact, I haven’t watched a single piece of Marvel media since Endgame and everyone is calling me crazy because of that.
@@jw_gojifan19 you’re criticizing the movie without watching? seriously?
@@henryplushultra1030
I watched Nomz's video on it. That's basically watching the movie.
@@henryplushultra1030 imagine thinking you have watch the movie to not see that all these movies are the exact same
Yeah fair play, it was alright.
I loved this film, but it had plot holes to fly a 747 through. As far as Flint being on first name terms with Peter, but 15 years has gone by in the Raimi-verse. Weren't they planning no Electro being not-quite-dead for the Amazing Spider-Man sequels that never happened?
The names are for who's verse it is...
It's almost like Tom Holland's Spider-Man has no way home.
The audience reaction you show at 1:02:13 I think shows a big reason why so many moviegoers in the U.S. and other Western countries rate this movie so high. The shared experience and camaraderie with the rest of the audience provided a much more heightened experience and biases the viewer to thinking the movie is much better than it actually was. Especially considering the current environment with people wanting to have a fun experience after going through 2 years of a pandemic.
I watched this in Japan with an audience that was basically dead silent, so there was no cheering or laughing or high fives or fist pumps or anything like that to cloud my judgement and I was able to judge the movie based on it alone and I thought it was just OK. Like a 7/10.
So I get the feeling upon further viewings watching this streaming in the living room it won't hold up nearly as well as people believe it will. Especially with a hot mess of a story like the one No Way Home has.
Exactly. This makes a lot of sense too considering every time they scream they drown out the movie and pretty much miss a lot of what happens or what characters say, just to scream again at another visually pleasing scene. It’s so annoying tbh.
I've never been to a movie theater before where people were screaming then again I've also never gone to the movies to see a MCU film so maybe that only happens with the MCU. Either that or the clips I see online aren't a common occurrence.
This was in America so imagine my surprise when the audience I was with made no noises either. Maybe they were tired? It was nothing like infinity war and endgame. Which I can print out it’s flaws but I enjoyed seeing it because of the community around it. By going to a quiet audience to no way home, I discovered I didn’t like the movie very much. Overall it was ok, but I think I would’ve loved it if the theatre was more excited.
"I bet Rian Johnson cried into his pillow that night"
I had laugh SO hard at that because it's no doubt true :D I would LOVE to force him and JJ to watch how fans reacted to Luke in Mandalorian Season 2, just to remind them what they failed to do.
And poor Rian is now just "hoping" the Knives Out IP that he created is going to saved his career.
Meanwhile, J.J. is working with Bruce (Wayne) Timm to do another version of Batman: The Animated Series on HBO Max.
Not to defend JJ because he’s definitely a major part of the train wreck, but his intentions for Luke were drastically different from what RJ ultimately did. At the end of Force Awakens, Luke is clearly a wise Jedi Master dressed neatly in traditional Jedi robes. In The Last Jedi, he’s suddenly transformed into a shaggy and cranky hobo. I’m not saying JJ had anything great planned for Luke, but I think it’s only fair to point out that JJ clearly revered the character more than RJ. Personally, I don’t mind Luke being disillusioned-that could have been an interesting character exploration-but I despise RJ’s execution.
Thank you again for your voice of reason! It has been missed!
100% agree, everything is technically very convenient, but I was expecting that and was willing to forgive all that in favor of fan service...BUT the "logic" of how they make the circumstances occur make no sense. It's like a D&D outline. "Dr. Strange just kind of forgot to ask Peter if he tried doing everything or anything to change the situation yet. Peter just forgot about seeing if he could do something else." I can even forgive that, but, "Dr. Strange kind of forgot about the delicacy and exactness of casting a spell, but the Multiverse sure didn't forget about him!" Maybe the level of contrived, rushed, convenient writing is starting to match D&D after all.
Yep. Completely agree. It's fine for people to enjoy this movie in a subjective sense but damn this movie is objectively a mess
AYEEEE
@@anomalyinc3239 You are the man Anomaly. Keep up the good work, it's much appreciated 👊
Nah objectively it's good....it's fine to say that subjectively you don't like it but objectively? It is good.
@@Jdudec367 Did you watch the video bro? 😂.
@@BOSSXist Doesn't mean this person is right...there was already another channel that posted a response to this EFAP style...or at least part one of it.
There definitely were parts that made me wanna roll my eyes but I tried my absolute level best to go into the film with an clear mind and needless to say I loved the movie as an experience but nothing close to actual cinema. Like you said Anomaly.
"It's a disaster. But a loveable disaster."
So the thing they did do with this movie is set it up so the universe could go on without Spiderman if the BS with Sony continues.
Willem Dafoe was great ngl.
he was outstanding
@@anomalyinc3239 "can the Spider-man come out to play?"
@@anomalyinc3239
Willem the GOAT
Everyone was great.
He did all his own stunts too
I liked the movie because tobey and andrew. My friend only recently watched Old spiderman movies. So he didn't get the hype much. But we both were disappointed to see how Dr. Strange was handled. Especially when they're setting up Dr. Strange 2.
Hopefully raimi directing dr strange 2 will make it good
@@jacksonbrickmedia939 Man, this didn’t age well
@@poll1051 I didn’t think the movie was awful, there was enough stuff I enjoyed but it was not really that great either. 5.5/10 for me
Where did you get that face from
@@jadathompson5580 check UA-cam membership
In other words, Dr Strange was not Sherlock this time. He was Shlock.
Why wasn't Raimi MJ and Webb Gwen Stacy drawn in since they knew Peter was Spider-Man?
Peter says that he don’t want his gf, best friend and his relatives to forget him as Spider-Man as it’s very hard to convince them to accept him as Spider-Man
I don't understand what r u saying. He asked why Mary Jane and Gwen didn't show up because Strange said people who knows that Peter is Spider-Man will arrive from different universes.
@@Crazyboy-pu2ub Mary Jane from the Raimi Trilogy knew that Peter is Spider-man. Gwen Stacy from the Amazing Spider-man Duology also knew that Peter is Spider-man. So they should have showed up in this Universe by the rules the movie set up. Harry from the Raimi Trilogy and Harry from the Webb Duology also should have showed up since he/they also know that Peter is Spider-man. Also Topher Grace Venom.
@@matane2465 I know that's what I said, I'm just trying to correct that Henry Guy. Why r telling this to me, because I understand ur point. You should have tell this to that Henry Guy who made a comment before me.
@@Crazyboy-pu2ub Lmaoo!!
I really loved this movie, and you’ve got a nuclear take, but it’s always interesting and entertaining to listen to your thoughts! Nice work sir. 👍
Realistically, this movie is not going to age well considering most of its draw comes from the nostalgia that generations from now most likely won't fully understand.
1:18:06 YES! this was bothering me for so long. There was no need to ditch the last suit. I highly doubt it was too damaged from last time.
I agree with you here 100 percent.
Agree with u
Actually I think it’s because the tech of the suit doesn’t remember him.
@@BK-sh2pn i'm not sure if a machine can forget stuff, or how physical information is incorporated into the spell but peters smart so *hack that shit.*
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 it’s dumb for sure, but I think that’s the rules of the spell. Otherwise there would still be evidence of mysterio’s reveal in phone recordings
I was waiting for this,
I liked watching the movie but the plot holes are way to big for me to consider it a good movie
This movie I would classify as a guilty pleasure. For every good moment in this movie, there is a cringe worthy moment just around the corner. I can see where people come from when they like or hate this movie. Most of the pleasure for me comes from the Tobeyverse and from Andrew Garfield. Especially Tobey, who did NOTHING WRONG.
Only issue I have with the Daredevil cameo is disney waited till they know the fanbase was leaving till bring them back.
Side note about the Netflix shows Punisher S2 shouldn't have happened cause the Snap happened 6 months earlier so half the characters shouldn't be there, I get it was filmed before Infinity War but still.
Really? I always thought Punisher S2 happened months after the Snap and Frank Castle was just killing any and all criminals that survived.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Plus, Jessica Jones season 3 happened at the same time so it seems pretty unlikely. It's sort of like Antman and the Wasp in how it came out after IW but was set before it.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
Disney waited until they were allowed to use him plus all the defenders shows were pre snap
Actually, That monument should be of Tony. He was never labeled a criminal, and he gave his life to stop Thanos. Steve stayed in the past. Why are we acting like the world would worship Steve?
Maybe they did it because they want people to remember the old Cap and not the new Cap, Sam Wilson.
Or maybe u guys kept complaining of tony showing up in these mcu spiderman movies so they changed it to the shield instead..I don't know just saying
Nah it should be of cap, tony has been labeled a criminal and they all risked their lives to stop thanos.
"Homecoming" = FInding himself, the strength and will to accept his powers and responsibility and the support of his friends and family. "Far From Home" = he can't a naive little child anymore he has to step out and be the hero and not lean on others to fix his problems. "No Way Home" = The safety net of innocence is gone and there is no going back only forward.
Very well put. 👌
Excellent video! Great points and hilarious editing.
I especially loved the editing at 12:28. The dbz teleport sound with ock smiling like "ta-ta" before leaving tobey to die. That killed me several times.
glad someone appreciated it
I personally enjoyed it a lot I thought it was fun but I had a couple issues my main one being how some villains were handled but I can't wait to hear your thoughts. 💚
Hi
I enjoyed this movie a lot but there were moments I didn’t care for (mainly Flash the former bully and Ned who I’ve never cared much more).
Edit: Meant to say much for. I’d edit the comment, but if I do, I’ll lose the heart. I never got that part of the feature on here.
Okay so the title "No Way Home" isn't referring to the villains it's referring to how Peter lost EVERYTHING at the end of the movie and has NO WAY HOME.
Honestly, this was a good movie just because it had such great cameos, William Defoe actually said he wouldn't return for a cameo and rightfully so the man stole the show for the most part for me:))
But unlike the clusterfuck of the sequel Star WArs trilogy, this movies actually pays respect to it's past incarnations letting them do what they do best.
Now if only someone would tell Sony that aunt May is a old lady, not a **** or a middle age woman, an old and caring lady like in the original live action and comic spiderman. Having her replace uncle ben didn't sit right for me.
I'm almost certain Spidey 4 will include like Black Cat and Daredevil. I heard a theory that Black Cat will be a young black widow recruit.
im hoping for the REAL Spider-Man 4
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If they make Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4, Sony might not to do a lot promotion for it, since in their eyes (and Disney's, unfortunately), Tom Holland's Spidey is the most profitable Spidey.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
Haven't watched a Nomz video in a long while, but this is definitely a good one to come back to.
Regarding the home made suit.. I saw someone say that Starks tech wouldn't recognize Peter after the spell so he had to make his own, which makes sense
Bro, excellent work on this video. Thanks for bringing attention to the continuity errors in this movie. I didn’t catch most of them on my single viewing.
youre welcome, yeah alot of people didnt catch em first time around
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So many continuity errors, but the MCU Fanatics were and are *still* defending their baffling decisions because they don't want to admit that their favorite franchise is taking a bad nosedive.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Some people just liked the movie lol.
Loved the movie especially the evolution of the characters I never thought that just because this Spiderman was different take that he was fundamentally broken. Hate that D.C Strange had his intelligence slashed for this plot.
Too bad the wrong lesson will be learned. And the money put to trash. But the more that they push this in the face of normies the more likely the their soft minds and hard heads will actually catch on.
Uncle Ben existed in MCU (was mentioned in WhatIf). He is the reason for Peter's motivation in Civil War. Aunt May just reminded him who Spider-Man is.
Hopefully he brings up how absurd it was for the other Raimiverse villains to know that Norman was GG despite Tobeyman covering that fact up being a major plot point for the rest of the trilogy.
Dude the whole point of these movies nowadays is to use nostalgia of the Old Original Actually Creative Good Movies we love to eventually get us in the door because they can then in front of us first nerfed the characters plus verse we loved, completely disrespect them and then totally $hit on it because they can boost up their own Carbon Copy Bootleg Verse and Characters..
All these Corporate Untalented Uncreative Clowns use the same Blueprint (Marvel, StarWars, Matrix, GoT and even Naruto Anime) because they don't want their B.S to be compare to the Creators work.
So they want to take the work of the Creators and take ownership of it. Instead of building on their foundation. Basically build nothing, but own everything mentality
No Way Home = Peter Parker has no way of going home back to his normal-life.
Great review, dude! I made my own Non-Spoiler Review and plan to drop my Spoiler Review soon, I saw the movie in theaters Christmas Day with my stepdad wearing my classic Black-Suit Spider-Man t-shirt, or Venom shirt. Thanks for pointing out the flaws that the fan in me missed because of the good things, it's easy for me to miss the problems in favor of the good parts at times.
the reason he didn't use the other suits because the AI did not remember him he has no connection to Tony Stark that's why he had to make the classic no way home suit
I loved the movie, but hated strange and the plot.
What would be your response to someone who says “Well technically Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man’s appearance isn’t fan fiction because Sam Raimi is going to direct the next Doctor Strange movie, so the intellect is going to be involved in the MCU”?
Okay well 1 that's just it hes making the doctor strange movie not spiderman NWH and that doesnt make the Doctor Strange movie canon to the Raimi films either
2 the MCU is it own self contained canon it does matter if they decide to take the Raimi Marc Webb or even the Fox Xmen movie characters they will always just be pale imitations and not legitimate canon to those movies and universes
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The three knows that Heaven will fall from the sky the moment they announce Hugh Jackman returning as Wolverine in another Marvel multiverse movie, right?
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
it really urked me how instead of making everyone forget peter parker was spiderman at the end of the movie, they made everyone forget who peter was in general
all that for a dumb ending
Yeah, that would have worked as well, even better probably
Magic makes the tech suit forget who Peter is so he wouldn't be able to use it anymore lmao
Hi Anomaly, awesome video! I wanted to comment on your view on the multiverse and ‘parallel points in time’. In the context of No Way Home, there was tremendous convenience concerning points that characters were pulled from the other universes, and there is no excuse for that. The whole idea of ‘parallel points in time’ though, is that of simultaneity and in the theory of relativity (special and general) simultaneous events are not the same for all observers. So, the idea of having simultaneous or ‘parallel points’ in time that are unanimously agreed upon across a whole universe or multiple universes is inconsistent with how we understand time. Also, by promoting the idea of these simultaneous points, your view of the multiverse seems to be that every conceivable universe was created simultaneously. If this is indeed what you think, then you should know that there are multiverse theories that do not behave this way (example: the death of a universe could cause the creation of another universe). I just wanted you to know you can be a bit more lenient and not be as frustrated when it comes to this multiverse stuff. We don’t know exactly how a multiverse would work, it could very conceivably contain ‘time travel’, and actually, anything is considered ‘time travel’ as long as you aren’t a massless particle.
Am I the only one who saw that they canonized the Amazing spider-man 2’s deleted scene when his father tells him the famous quote ?
I have no difficulty understanding a multiverse. The problem is what having a multiverse MEANS. Because there's infinite possibilities, it means there's no STAKES. Oh, Tony Stark dies? No problem, he's still alive in some other universe, we'll just get him from there. Need another Captain America? Thor? Black Widow? The hero loses? No problem, he wins somewhere else. It also makes it difficult to keep track of what the continuity is. Just look at the problems Star Trek has these days.
We missed you, you beautiful bastard
It does make sense for Strange to be cold and it be seen as a bad thing- Stephen's big issue is being so logical it DOES make him almost a bad guy sometimes. A bit like Steve's 'we don't trade lives'- Stephen does. Which is a good counterpoint to Peter who is struggling with the world hating him and his own trauma about killing Mysterio- to see these other villains and KNOWING that a version of HIM also kills them, it's not surprising Peter would want to help them because he still feels guilt.
No Way Home's title isn't just about the villains- the title also references where Peter ends up- he cannot go back to his actual home now, Aunt May is dead and no one knows who he is.
With the villains, there doesn't need to be a 1-1 comparison. When Flint says 'it was all over the news' there's no reason to think AFTER Flint leaves his Peter, a few years later the news gets out about Norman. Hell his butler guy even says to Harry the wounds matched the glider, so at least one person knows. It's not out of the possibility. Same with Flint being friendly with Peter- maybe they do talk more after that point.
Hell even in the Raimi films, what if Doc Oc failed to overpower the tentacles and instead Peter does have to kill him and Peter is the one who figures out he needed to drown the machine.
There are some issues but you are a bit over the top with the nitpicks.
Now this, brings a smile to my face.
This film is a perfect 5/10, gets really good but man the unspeakable things they did to get it running... Might be a 4/10.
You make great points but I have 2 counter points.
1) I think when Peter said for the spell to not effect his aunt, best friend, and girlfriend so the spell didn't bring Aunt May, Harry Osborn, nor Mary Jane/Gwen Stacy from the other universe(s).
2) I think Doctor Strange thought at the time when he said "we started getting visitors from every universe", he didn't know that the 5-6 villains that did slip through were just from 2-3 universes rather than all being from more universes.
Seeing Tobey gettin' down in the corner made me laugh for a solid minute and now my abs are sore.
Fuck, my abs really hurt(after reading "Willem DafOG")!
37:58
Oof that clip triggered my gag reflex hard.
Great job on the video mate
My guess is that Strange flew out of mirror dimension after the web disappeared and returned to the dungeon. Ned opened the portal to the dungeon after the Lizard attack and Strange was already there.
I mean if they erased the memory of mysterio, wouldn’t everyone still know his secret identity? Like sure mysterio is the one who leaked it but I don’t think it would change much
Also if ur complaining about how the mcu keeps pumping shit out but it’s still shit that people watch and enjoy, what’s there to complain about
Quantity over quality my friend, crunch always ruins good projects
I was wondering when you would get around to reviewing this spider man movie I saw your previous video on before this movie came out and now you have came out with the video on this movie and it is glorious.
thanks man
@@anomalyinc3239 don’t mention it.
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Your Spider-Man Video Trilogy is now complete, at least for now.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 my thoughts exactly.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
It would have been awesome and hilarious if they had characters and elements from the Nicholas Hammond Spider-man, the Toei Spider-man, and Electric Company Spider-man.
I agree that this movie certainly has it problems, like Doctor Strange being just rushing into things without explaining them to Parker and Lizard being particularly forgotten in for most of the movie. I still find myself looking this movie because it felt like the Rouge One of Spider-Man movies, a fun movie with good fan service but has a few moments that were quite dumb to move the plot along.
I respect your opinion of this movie as well, but there were a couple of things I feel are fair to say in this movies defence:
1) J.K Simmons reprising his role as J.J.Jameson may have been done for fan service, but at least this was a character who existed in this universe and not one ripped from the Ramie universe directly. Besides, he's the best guy for the job, he’s even voiced him in cartoons.
2) I understand you not liking the Goblin armour being destroyed in the film, but let’s face it, a lot of the MCU is focused or influenced by the comics. I know there were some fans who hated on the Ramie Spider-Man 1's Goblin costume for being too goofy, and Electro speaks for himself… so I can understand the MCU for making comic accurate suits for those two. (Especially Electro)
3) When the Spider-Men were working on the cures for the 4 villains still needing a cure, I think it’s fair to say that Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man would have no trouble with remaking the Lizard cure, and Tobey McGuire's Spider-Man did say he was already working on a cure for the Goblin and probably would know how to help Doc Ock and SandMan to a stretch. But Electro is still stupid, I’ll give you that.
4) Tom Holland being Spider-Man 1 may have angered you a bit, but he was technically the Spider-Man of that universe, and I think that was the more likely explanation.
Everything else I’m fine with though and I still respect if you disagree with my views.
I was expecting Tobey and Andrew spider man would fight for most of the movie and then get along through the end until Andrew died
All of your points are fair. I still enjoyed it though, I still like it.
I personally give it a 4/10 it was cool seeing old nostalgic people back, but that wasn't enough to save the film. There was too many problems with the story and how certain people acted out of character.
I'd give No Way Home a mere 5/10, even though it doesn't deserve it.
@@bilbobaggins9451 I know right. And that really triggered me. I'm like are they really trying to make a joke out of that character arc ith Harry? Just the way they had tobey say it and the dialog didn't sit right with me. He was his best friend and he sacrificed himself for him. I would've liked it better if peter said something like my friend sacrificed himself saving me from his glider. It would've probably worked well where toeby stopped tom from killing goblin with his glider.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
When I went to the theatre, I was expecting to be repulsed and paid closely as I could for character assassinations. In the end, it was an okay film. I liked the dynamic with Tobey, Andrew and Tom's Spiderman. I wasn't quite sold on the Green Goblin as in Raimi Spiderman, but he was good here. However Doc Ock and Electro were great. I never understand Sandman's reasoning to the Spider-Men as his only wish was to see his daughter which he would be helping the Spider-Men. And the Lizard was there, not really doing anything. But the plot sucked, especially with Dr. Strange. They had to make him idiot so they can push the multiverse movie while also trying to explain all these villains coming to MCU universe. Also I am not sold on Michelle being called MJ, she looks nothing and acts nothing like MJ. The best portrayal of MJ is in Spectacular Spider-Man, she does act like herself in the comics. The only Michelle and MJ have in common that they both Spider-Man's love interest and occasional damsel in distress.
I think they made goblin much stronger like how they did with captain America. He wasn't pulling down helicopters in phase 1. Nor was thor taking the energy of a star to his chest. But they can now. They're just elevating the strength to utilise the effects
My issues with the film
-Sandman was written poorly
-Lizard more so seems 2 just b there for the movie(same with electro)
-Dock ock becoming a good guy felt a bit forced
- theyre is no sinister 6 only a sinister 4
-still no mention of toms uncle ben
-tobey and andrews appearence is kinda played off as a joke, not rlly memorable.
- venom was kinda wasted
They disrespected Lizard indeed, Electro though i thought was really menacing
@@orlandofurioso7329 his performance was enjoyable ofc it is jaimie foxx after all. However his presence there made no sense at all.
I waited til last minute to see No Way Home just because I didn’t want to listen to people interrupting the movie with cheering and clapping
I’m autistic so I have sensitive hearing and it causes me physical discomfort
Looking forward to this. I'm the only person I know who didn't like this movie and felt like I was going crazy. (However, I loved the acting, production, dialogue, technicalities, etc.)
you are not alone. I was bored by the end of the 2nd act. Don't think, just consume Eye candy approach to Blockbuster films is still alive. yay. Uncharted is next.
Its ok 2 not like it. I love this movie however I do feel it is a bit overhyped hell I had problems with it and can understand any1 who had issues with the film.
Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
@@Cpk86 u must b 1 of them trolls huh?. Who r u even saying this 2
@@Kageofyoutube Suck it up Spider-Man lover trolls,it’s time for you snowflakes to get butt hurt with facts about this movie. Sorry for messing y’all up with y’all’s tissue and lube with Spider-Man🤣🤣🤣. Mess up number 1, this is 100 percent fan service instead of a enjoyable movie which kills a lot of things. Mess up number 2, they made Dr. strange look stupid when clearly he is smarter than Spider-Man and can prevent him from escaping and take box away from him like it’s nothing. Mess up number 3, Only in Kevin Feige’s dumb little mind that Spider-Man can beat Dr.Strange in his own meer dimension lmao. Mess up number 4,This movie is really all about Spider-Man getting into MIT which is definitely a dumb way building this plot around. Why didn’t he just go to another college? Not difficult to do lol. Mess up number 5, the pacing in this movie is atrocious and it drags on during multiple parts for way to long and the action in this movie was so bland.mess up number 6, what was the point of curing the villains, only just to send them back to their time line and die? It just doesn’t make any sense lmao🤣
I actually thought the fan service was handled relatively well in this movie
It is handle pretty well
I have so much to say about this film that I can't get through in a comment section, but nobody around me is really willing to listen.
So it sounds like, for the purposes of time travel vs multiverse jumping, each universe is a plane oriented along space and time, and all the universes are aligned along a separate axis. When traveling through time, you can move along the "time axis" of one universe, and when traveling between universes, you can move along the axis connecting all the universes, but can't do both simultaneously
Man, watching this movie in the cinema is the most exciting thing I’ve experienced, but objectively, its a rough pass of what could have been the greatest superhero movie, it basically doesnt have a story, just throwing excuses so the spiderman character interact(which they did, and really great interactions) the only good plotline is peters arc, so its truly a shame
Yeah, I will just stick with Into The Spider-Verse over this nonsensical movie as far as a multiverse story film goes. Great review, Anomaly.
Thanks man
@@anomalyinc3239 You're welcome, dude.
Nomz, you said that the fight should be over with taser web, but you don't like that Peter uses his nanosuit that has hijacking functions to defeat Doc Ock? How is this not logical option? And yes, the Doc Ock is the weakest physically of 5 villains, but he still gets a heroic moment at the end of the film which gives him even more respect from the audience.
Massive flaws throughout the movie, but we did appreciate keeping the original characters themselves throughout. Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus were excellent.
However Spider-verse was a superior movie where the multiverse spin was more digestible.
All I'll say is that with Spider-Man it always comes back to the original portrayal of Peter Parker. No matter how subversive or nonsensical you get with Spider-Man, when you interweave certain things into the original portrayal of Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire) it always comes back over to the original creator's vision of the character. Because it's like while this current iteration of Peter Parker (Tom Holland) may be all the rage right now in media, there's always going to be those who are gonna want to see more of the original iteration of the character in media. Hints why we have stuff like Spider-Man PS4 and the recent comic book run of Nick Spincer's Amazing Spider-Man that follow more of the traditional aspects of Spider-Man than anything else. Also in response to your comment on the Miles Morales quote from Jamie Foxx's Electro. Personally as someone who is a fan of Spider-Verse and really wants to see a live action Miles Morales Spider-Man film, I actually found that quote to be quite funny. Because honestly that's kinda how I feel about Spider-Man in the movies today. Eventhough I like Peter Parker's Spider-Man a lot, I am getting really sick of seeing him be braught to the focal point so much on screen. Like I was actually one of the people who even wanted to see Miles be brought into the MCU instead of Peter because of his origin story. It's so much more on par with the status quo of the MCU than Peter's. Miles's classic 2011 origin that the MCU used as a template for their own version of Peter Parker completely waters down the key origin of Peter's character, his origin concept alone looks like it could exist in a universe of its own like the Raimi and Webb Spider-Man films.
If the villains try to surrender returning back, it likely wouldn't work because their powers still makes them a great threat to the society and very difficult to contain in jail (Electro can teleport and Sandman can fit through the tinest hole). Plus some of them are simply mid controlled and their alter ego won't surrender (Goblin, Octopus, Lizard).
What I don't understand is why other movie reviewers like Drinker and Mauler are praising this movie. If we cut out fan-service and nostalgia, there will be nothing left in this film! And at the same time they're hating the Prequels...
Because they as everyone else in the world knows this movie is good nomz is just being negative
@@bilbobaggins9451 you call normies the people that like this movie
@@bilbobaggins9451 or because this is legitimately good movie and there are dozens of review saying why
@@bilbobaggins9451 try to see why people like this movie so much aside of the nostalgia and fanservice.
@@bilbobaggins9451 the emotional parts, spider men, villain's,the ending and the action
Love that Family Guy moment 33:30
46:06 - 48:21 and 59:45 This is 100 % my opion! You just nailed it. Thank you. It just feels so good to see someone else pointing this out.
I dont know why but the way Martin Sheen says THOSE words to Peter hits the hardest. I love the way he delivered it even if its not the 1:1 quote
great casting choice and scene but i still prefer Cliff Robertson
I guess it would have been hilarious if they brought back Bully Maguire. Just imagine all the memes xD
You me mentioned how Ock should’ve had no clue as to who Gobby was in NWH and how it messed up the raimi canon.
Though, one detailed you skipped over is when Spider-Man fought off Ock at the end of Spider-Man 2, Ock said "I should’ve known Osborn wouldn’t have the spine to finish you!", implying that he knew that Osborn was the one behind that Goblin suit.
It’s confusing to think about since Norman’s secret identity at the time was known by no one but Peter. So, it looks like the logic was broken beforehand, lol
Norman Osborne dies on the same night as the last Green Goblin sighting and the Green Goblin kills the Oscorp board of directors after they fire Norman… it’s not that hard to piece together
Hey Nomz, love the video. As I reflect on No Way Home I find myself agreeing with almost everything you're saying. I don't mind Ned being able to use the sling-ring so much because we are told in Doctor Strange that the ring works off of belief. So it's not like, The Force for example, where he would need some amount of training to wield it. One thing I don't like about it is that previously it was only used to teleport from area to area, not to people, otherwise Strange could've taken all his wizards and just ambushed Thanos. Being able to locate a person by name with the sling-ring is about as world-breaking as the hyperspace ram.
But that aside I didn't mind HIM being able to use it because he clearly believes in magic, so naturally magical items will react with him
Doc ocks has uses nano technology for his arms I forgot the details but other people have explained it better but thats why it absorbed Peter's suit
Very well formed opinion+facts.I also enjoy the fact that you give flowers when its due, like when you said how Matt Murdock/Daredevil's cameo was well executed. Very exceptionally analyzed , where you pick everything apart, point out things they did right, point out things they did wrong. I love seeing reviews with alot of thought put into it like this. Kudos
Just an fyi. This whole movie was designed to clean the slate of Tom Holland spiderman for Sony, since the marvel Sony deal is now over. You're welcome
Interesting, still think it could have been done better, the whole middle part of this movie was really bad filler in my opinion, the beginning and end carried the whole movie
Nobody talks about how much simpler and safer it would be to transport the fabricator to the magic superjail that Peter has full control over, than to transport the five supervillains to a normal apartment.
I absolutely agree with everything you mentioned. I was blinded by the hype when the movie was still new and rumors were going crazy af. I still enjoyed my first time at a theater watching it with friend as well as other audiences. Of course the audience was freaking loud too when big/little moments show up. I also did too just because.
I've seen this possibly 7 times and I still love it despite the flaws underneath the cracks. It's painfully noticeable and it sticks with you. But in the end at this point with the mcu, who cares really. It's their franchise if they wish to milk everything on screen.
The point is that I'm glad my characters growing up came to be on screen again and I think done at times too. Definitely the last half of the film with Andrew and tobey are the huge highlights. I'm very glad they stayed true to their iconic roles with much love and care to them. I think that's what holds the movie together for me seeing them again after all these years thinking they aren't interested.
In conclusion, the movie is obviously not well written to an extent and just to set up things for plot convenience. There are some that hold that weight a bit. I also too wondered why tom didn't take advantage much of his spider technology as much as he did previously. But again, plot convenience.
It's one of those movies where you know there are some pretty dumb moments but can be easily looked over on. It did make up for it in the end.
Still not as impactful as the raimi movies nor should any movie for the matter. The raimi trilogy will always remain to be the best in my opinion. You could argue the same the marc Webb films as well. As said, they at least tried despite them not looking back at the raimi and TASM movies at times. So that's my view of the movie.
I'm pretty sure future mcu spidey films will probably debunk the whole thing not using stark technology and he'll end up using them anyway. Because why would he get rid of them when he could turn into something on his own anyways but whatever.