WWE Raw 2 - Beta vs. Final Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
  • The Beta Comparison video series continues with me comparing early unfinished, cut content and pre-release versions of WWE Raw 2 for the original Xbox. This video contains lots of differences from attire changes, removed characters, cosmetic differences and more!
    Lots of big changes throughout development on show here, with the game starting off looking aesthetically very late WWF 2001/2002 before phasing into the WWE's Ruthless Aggression mid-2003. It was also a shame to lose two big names before the game's release - Jeff Hardy was released and therefore cut from Raw 2 just months before release, and then Scott Hall who was released and cut a massive 16 months before the game's release, so nowhere near the final build.
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  • @WrestlingVideoGames
    @WrestlingVideoGames  Місяць тому +24

    The Beta Comparison video series continues with me comparing early unfinished, cut content and pre-release versions of WWE Raw 2 for the original Xbox. This video contains lots of differences from attire changes, removed characters, cosmetic differences and more!
    Lots of big changes throughout development on show here, with the game starting off looking aesthetically very late WWF 2001/2002 before phasing into the WWE's Ruthless Aggression mid-2003. It was also a shame to lose two big names before the game's release - Jeff Hardy was released and therefore cut from Raw 2 just months before release, and then Scott Hall who was released and cut a massive 16 months before the game's release, so nowhere near the final build.

    • @Pablo-312
      @Pablo-312 Місяць тому +1

      And I suppose that this would be the last game before they "got the F out", correct?
      Also, I've been picturing an idea for a video game called "WWE: Federated Past".

    • @elyonkunda6772
      @elyonkunda6772 19 днів тому

      Wrestlemania XIX next or Day of Reckoning?

  • @BlaineSupernatural
    @BlaineSupernatural Місяць тому +48

    The beta version honestly looks better than the final.

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 23 дні тому +1

      The graphics, lighting, and crowd were upgraded for the final game

    • @Nick-we6xg
      @Nick-we6xg 16 днів тому

      Y​ou say upgraded but the overly shiny look isn't appealing.Then there is the questionable attire and visual changes. Lol @clspectre9055

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 16 днів тому

      @@Nick-we6xg it looked great at the time compared to Smackdown. It also looked much better than the first game. And the attire changes were due to late gimmick and attire changes they tried to bake in last-minute unlike 2K these days.

  • @demetriusb.7885
    @demetriusb.7885 Місяць тому +50

    Holy shit Rey looks Awful

  • @jadedandfaded7537
    @jadedandfaded7537 Місяць тому +79

    They disrespected RVD and Mysterio so badly 💀

  • @DaCosmicPrince
    @DaCosmicPrince Місяць тому +18

    That HBK Model looks extremely awful. One of the worst I've ever seen in a WWE game

  • @BlackMachismo316
    @BlackMachismo316 Місяць тому +21

    I would kill to see all the hidden cutscenes from season mode that are rare to get through gameplay

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 23 дні тому

      This. Season was supposed to be much more

  • @gazasaurus3142
    @gazasaurus3142 Місяць тому +15

    Man this game had so much potential and it looked awesome, shame it played like ass. They learnt nothing from the first Raw

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 23 дні тому +1

      Well they did but THQ demanded way too much. There was no time to complete the gameplay and AI because they basically had to add 300% more in modes and match types from the first game, AND they had to change the art style/graphics since Microsoft wanted them to show more power from the console. That's why the beta has the Raw 1 graphics. Anchor Inc. was a small ass studio who had done nothing but UFC. They were super talented but needed much more time and resources. They had to cut out blood and Xbox Live support, even after they had to delay the game twice.

  • @ScarysReviews
    @ScarysReviews Місяць тому +8

    you can still make Rey look close to how he's meant to look, there's another mask with a cross, and there's the falcon side parts for the mask. Scott Hall can be made plus many others. all the names are in there. Randy Savage, Ultimate Warrior, Hawk, Animal, heck Owen Hart, Jeff hardy. STING

  • @funwithcaws
    @funwithcaws 25 днів тому +7

    Imagine the beta version with way better gameplay. Would’ve been one of the best wrestling video games ever. XBOX got done so dirty

  • @kamiloalvarez5800
    @kamiloalvarez5800 Місяць тому +10

    so wwe raw 2 started development when wwf raw was released? we could seen the wrestlemania 18 arena on xbox and pc

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 Місяць тому +7

    Headless referees would've been a funny cheat code.😅

  • @KingBrahma-xw6mt
    @KingBrahma-xw6mt Місяць тому +13

    This was literally gonna have the invasion angel and everything better story mode all that once again some of the workers quit I remember seeing a rough draft of the trailer

    • @hiphopdagame
      @hiphopdagame 29 днів тому +2

      so that's why the game felt rushed and empty compared to the trailers..

    • @KingBrahma-xw6mt
      @KingBrahma-xw6mt 29 днів тому +3

      @@hiphopdagame yes this was one of the Xbox Exclusives we were pose to have blood as well

    • @MASTER3371
      @MASTER3371 24 дні тому

      seems like it was after the Invasion cause on the roster you got Billy & Chuck by each other , D-Von (away from Bubba) by Batista (Reverend & Deacon) , The Un Americans by each other. Seems like this was suppose to be a around 2002 like Shut Your Mouth game

    • @KingBrahma-xw6mt
      @KingBrahma-xw6mt 24 дні тому

      @@MASTER3371 you right

  • @elyonkunda6772
    @elyonkunda6772 19 днів тому +1

    0:24 that’s a really cool one. I wonder if Christian would’ve had that mesh shirt as a secondary attire

  • @TheAman2008
    @TheAman2008 29 днів тому +4

    About Mysterio's mask? The pieces for it are in the game's final version. What happened was the devs didn't assign each piece by default. It goes to game's issue as a whole of not being completed on time

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 23 дні тому

      It had gotten delayed twice and still needed more time. If it had gotten one more year, it would've been a masterpiece. Anchor Inc. gets a TON of props for how much they added from the first game. It's just they were too small a studio. It's crazy they got fired as soon as the game went gold...THQ knew the final code wasn't complete. They were under too much pressure from Microsoft to release the game.

  • @gamerdude612
    @gamerdude612 29 днів тому +9

    What the hell happened to Rey Mysterio they had him just about perfect in the beta he looks like a template created wrestler in the final version.

    • @M1BIGIEMAC
      @M1BIGIEMAC 29 днів тому +7

      It must've been some legal thing or something (odd as WM XIX and HCTP didn't have this issue). His Portrait for the Character Selection is terribly photoshopped as well to make him look like a Blueberry. I remember you could restore some of his mask in the Creation Suite as you could edit the attires of In-Game Superstars in this game (you could also give him a mask that has a big opening in it and see his face surprisingly enough).

  • @matthewtaylor4749
    @matthewtaylor4749 26 днів тому +2

    Nice finally my favorite WRESTLING Game I have been waiting on this for a long time!

  • @HeavyMetalSonicRM
    @HeavyMetalSonicRM 26 днів тому +3

    I remember this game being damn-near unplayable.

  • @kamiloalvarez5800
    @kamiloalvarez5800 Місяць тому +8

    the rock beta attire was the same as smackdown shut your mouth, so wwe raw 2 originally was going to be from late 2001 to mid 2002

    • @83jdc1
      @83jdc1 23 дні тому +1

      I doubt it because Raw one was released in 2002. I think it was just before they updated the models and attires.

    • @kamiloalvarez5800
      @kamiloalvarez5800 23 дні тому

      @@83jdc1 it was released in february 2002, so they probably started development around that time
      you can tell that it was going to be of that timeline because of like the rock entrance, it looks more like 2002 rock

    • @83jdc1
      @83jdc1 23 дні тому +1

      @@kamiloalvarez5800 I'm saying they were likely just using that as a base. Attires and stuff a lot of the times are some of the last things updated.

  • @ReinEngel
    @ReinEngel 29 днів тому +3

    This game had the bells and whistles (that entrance editor!) to be great, but my God, the gameplay was just awkward. Not WCW Thunder awful, but it just felt off. The walk cycles, the camera angle, the animations... but you wanted to like it.

    • @WrestlingVideoGames
      @WrestlingVideoGames  28 днів тому +6

      I find myself going back to it every now and again and I'm never really sure why. Definitely has a charm, despite it's many flaws

  • @DaCosmicPrince
    @DaCosmicPrince Місяць тому +8

    Will their be a beta comparison video for WWF Attitude?

  • @newjerseyballer
    @newjerseyballer 16 днів тому

    this game was really good. a lot of good memories playing with friends. good times….

  • @BrianAwesome
    @BrianAwesome 26 днів тому +5

    Bruh, * Early 2002 NOT 2001 😒

  • @funwithcaws
    @funwithcaws 25 днів тому

    Can you do a 3D through a table in the final version ?

  • @jUAN.T
    @jUAN.T 14 днів тому +1

    The cover is one of the best

  • @theevn7
    @theevn7 Місяць тому +1

    Nice

  • @meherenow793
    @meherenow793 22 дні тому

    crazy that this game still has the best wrestling game entrances, all these years later

  • @ksanders249
    @ksanders249 21 день тому

    0:51 I love them both but with Mysterio's Blue attire those nike Football gloves should Blue & white....

  • @ClippersRunLA
    @ClippersRunLA День тому

    Was this on the same engine as DOR ?

  • @GamerLegend.97
    @GamerLegend.97 22 дні тому

    Game developers back then weren't even that smart you could have made it to unlock it these beta attire's

  • @matthewtaylor4749
    @matthewtaylor4749 18 днів тому

    How come they deleted the backstage area with Taker talking and will someone release the BETA version of Raw 2 one day? Cause the gameplay from trailer was better.

  • @curtiswilliams5223
    @curtiswilliams5223 22 дні тому

    It would have been an ok game had it’s hit detection worked and had blood

  • @wingedhussar1453
    @wingedhussar1453 Місяць тому +3

    No amount of dev time could have saved this crap slow gameplay game. They showed of new camera angle and better graphics just to bring same camera and put on oil on the wrestlers in final game

    • @clspectre9055
      @clspectre9055 23 дні тому +1

      Well here's the problem: look at how many modes, features, and match types they added after the first game. And then like 12 new arenas, and an upgraded art style/graphics engine. It was unprecedented for a wrestling game at the time. That was the biggest criticism of the first game, so that was their priority. The dev time they needed after that was for the gameplay and AI, which THQ didn't give them. Anchor Inc. was a super small Japanese studio.
      They got undercut so much. What company changes graphics AFTER a beta, well into development? That's why it got delayed the first of two times. Microsoft demanded more power from the Xbox.
      Why do you think a ton of season mode content got cut (numerous cutscenes and those interview sets)? Blood got cut. Online play got cut. Backstage areas and crowd fighting (which they really wanted to do) got cut. Of course they had no time to complete the gameplay and AI. The demand was "more content, better graphics." They were faced with an impossible task and still did an amazing job with the amount of new stuff they actually added. Dude, they had so little in time and resources they had to cut off access up the ramp because they couldn't get to program all the arenas.

  • @mcfcxx9849
    @mcfcxx9849 24 дні тому +1

    Has any playable early builds leaked???

  • @KegOfMeat
    @KegOfMeat 23 дні тому

    What the fuck is that final game Rey model? Why tf was that early Kurt model so outdated? Dudleys attire went from early 01 to late 01 and was still outdated. That beta Stacy Keibler would be from late 01 or early 02 not early 01.

  • @TheVickyrazor
    @TheVickyrazor 28 днів тому +2

    Beta version looks much better

  • @DCLK
    @DCLK 23 дні тому

    They butchered Rey

  • @pk_1
    @pk_1 23 дні тому

    Bro downgraded💀💀

  • @pk_1
    @pk_1 23 дні тому

    WORST HBK MODEL EVER!!!!!!!!