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It would make a bit of difference if they don't allow those humongous cruise liners cross in the middle of the Venice. Even if they're not traveling fast, the waves they create affects the buildings there.
No worries! We will just sail past there at high speed with Ticonderoga cruisers... Then they will also get to hear the screaming turbine noise as well. A couple of weeks of that treatment and the venetians will welcome big cruise ships back.
they dont create much wash as they have slowed down even more plus the humongous ships like the ones royal Caribbean have I.e oasis of the seas they dont go as they cant get in as its not wide enough or deep enough, the small boats that speed around all day every day cause more wash and cause more damage to buildings, plus the tidal waves do even more damage
@@yamahonkawazuki I will not worried about tourism in Venice this is not going to finish anytime soon! I leaved 17 years in Verona is not too far from Venice.
@@alex.m.rotaru8479 tbh as far as cruise ships go I do agree. You have a beautiful country or forgive my poor Italian, bellissimo. Venice was around before the boats will be around far after. Verona is gorgeous as well. Ciao
take tourism and the cruise ships away from Venice and every venetian business will be gone, as its the cruise ships and tourism thats keeping that city going and alive
What I'm seeing here is corruption by city officials on a massive scale. It doesn't take a genius to realize that these politicians are accepting bribes to defer taxes and legislation that would protect their own citizens. After watching this I honestly have no desire to EVER visit such a corrupt and inhumane city. What puzzles me is why there aren't massive protests; the French and Italians are notorious for standing up for their rights and demanding responsible and representative governance, why isn't that same ideology and perseverance happening here? Italy and France are amazing countries and it isn't just Venice; I would recommend that tourists avoid this cesspool of corruption and support the citizens of Venice by taking their tourism (and money) to other areas of Italy and France. Southern France is miraculous and not to be missed. If you truly want to experience more than 'trinkets', avoid Venice and explore the countryside of Italy and France, you won't be disappointed.
@@SecondTake123 That's called corruption! The bank and off-shore accounts of Venice politicians would show amazing profits that far exceed the wages of the corrupt established order.
If you've ever lived in Italy it is a sad fact that corruption is endemic. Put that fact together with tourism etc. and one of the most important cultural centres in the western world historically really is doomed. And that is tragic. Really appreciated your comment.
this is happening all over the world if you notice...The long life residence of a place are getting pushed out by those with more money in order to turn a profit. This cannot last, its not sustainable.
Those with money love to live near water, so in some cities long term residence have been displaced so that the wealthy can buy up beach front properties. They do not care about the families who have lived there for several generations--it is all about turning a profit. People do not count when it comes to money! This is a human phenomena, and we appear blind to the side effects.
@@northofyou33 I can't afford to live where I grew up I moved. I can't make the income my parents make? I moved. I chose a more balanced life over higher income, my choice. I own my home in Seattle now but if I can't afford mortgage It is not my house. It is not your house till you pay your last payment even without mortgage. if you don't pay the rising property tax do you think you still own your house? the government will auction it off to pay your taxes. In the end NO ONE Really owns their home. You either make more or move some where else you can afford. You can make new memories with your family, doing nothing about it leads no where. What about the population before you moved there? they were also displaced unless you are native for 100+ years. Maybe because I immigrated to two different countries I never felt entitlement to where I grew up. No one ever owns a city or the entitlement, not even the city council.
I was born and lived most of my life in Sydney. There’s no way I could afford to live there now, and I wouldn’t even want to, it’s been ruined by corporate greed and government corruption. So sad.
I don't read it from the book, but i've seen it by my own eyes . I've been in Scandinavian countries, south Europe and Asia and i spoke to the local, learnt a lot. I saw the big differences. I am asian ( come from one of the most corrupt country in Asia / Indonesia) and it was really interresting for me. Some peoples might be called it communism , but in my point of view there is nothing to do with communism.
+Jason J.Ayala P. You do know average Venice citizens never get a dime of that money, right? That, plus the constant damage from idiotic tourists, tends to do a number.
For over 50 years Venice has not been a living city. Everything is about tourism, nothing else. Those who live there make a living out of tourism. It is Italian Euro Disney, no schools, no normal daily live. Events are organized for tourist, all theater, nothing authentic.
thats not the tourists fault they only pay to visit and buy products from them to keep their economy going, if the tourists were to stop visiting Venice then Venice will not survive as their own elected officials won't lift a finger to help them so they rely on the tourists
@@tonyp011 There are no inhabitants of old Venice, and have not been there for over fifty years. Families moved to modern Venice, a suburb outside, and only one family member (in shifts) lives in the attic, collects the keys in the morning, cleans the rooms and distributes the keys in the afternoon to the new arrivals. Some tourists can afford to stay longer and are guides to other tourists, like the German lady. But they can hardly be called inhabitants. Management of this tourists attraction has always been about money. The man complaining is not a Venetian, but an investor in a shop who doesn't like it that cruise passengers get a guided tour, eat in a restaurant that has a contract with the cruise company, and are brought back to the cruise ship to buy souvenirs. So they do not get time to buy in his shop. Tourism that came to the campings and took a ferry to freely visit Venice, has dropped because of extreme high camping fees, overcrowded places, and very bad maintenance of facilities. Every day at exactly 11:00 the same couple marries at the Rialto bridge, payed by the gondola company. Just like the funeral party at exactly 15:00 every day with an empty coffin. Nothing is real, everything is faked. Right now the cruise companies pay the management the most money and are allowed to organize trips in such a way that only they collect the spending of their passengers, by contracts with restaurants, gondola companies and souvenir shops. Like sheep the Chinese are toured around and are not allowed to leave the herd.
@@dutchman7623, if it's like Disney World, they should have admission like Disney World. 150€ per head entrance fee. If that doesn't put a dent onto the flood .. 200€.
@@dutchman7623 Same as any other big European tourist location and heck even in America, that is why I prefer places in France, Spain or whatever most go to see authentic culture that is being lost so rapidly in today's world. Even in America, I'm ticked when I see what they've done to almost every places.
@@tomasbickel58 I agree! Many people are staying outside of Venice in beachside hotels and they go on daytrips. They don't pay for accomodation there, don't buy souvenirs and probably don't even spend money on food. It would be reasonable to to pay a fee so the city can profit from tourists who doesn't spend their money there.
This is all very true but the documentary fails to adequately point out who created this mess, ie the Venetian authorities. They dredged the water ways and built cruise ship terminals to attract cruise ships. They gave planning permission for the creation of new hotels and have just invested heavily in Marco Polo airport, all to attract more tourists. You can hardly blame people for wanting to visit such a beautiful city. Instead of the local inhabitants harassing tourists on ships they should harass their elected officials, or better still stand for office themselves
Incontrovertable point made; I think the documentary alludes to it but definitely not adequately. Italy is a political mess, which makes me very sad. I studied at the Sorbonne during the Mitterand years when people were muttering about socialism; I've never seen such a well organized country at the time, Sweden at its best. Now it's in tatters; the great cathedral Notre Dame badly damaged mid april, a bunch of billionaires pledge large sums for which they get over 60% tax right-offs; not one of them has coughed up a penny and the French ordinary citizen is bearing the brunt of its reconstruction. Le Pen's daughter has a significant following -- extreme right wing groups are all over Europe, so yes it's wonderful to be outraged by Trump and perhaps Brexit but look at the picture of the first world and it's not pretty at all.
Easy for you to say, you don't live here you don't know what it's like. And also the protest is a simbol as they said in the documentary there also office meeting with officials but those alone are not enough.
“To build a city where it is impossible to build a city is madness in itself, but to build there one of the most elegant and grandest of cities is the madness of genius.” Alexander Herzen
I feel sorry for all the craftsman and artisans who made this city. They put love and pride in what they did into their work. Imagine if they could see this.
This was so interesting. As a tourist myself, I was in this amazing city back in 2011. It definitely put me under its spell of its amazing magic. The people were amazing. But watching this saddens me so much and I knew but didn’t realise the extent of the damage tourism is causing to beautiful Venice. I truly respected the culture and rules while there. But to see its community been driven out and struggle to live in their own city is an outcry. I’m glad that ships are no longer a loud to go there to dock but the problem still remains. This beautiful place needs saving. I can say that I will never return, not because I don’t want too but because I can not afford too. Even if I could the city is fast losing its attraction due to the tourists. But I will always have my fond memories of the beauty it was in 2011. Good luck to the locals and shame on the council and laws that allow what’s happened. Corruption at its finest
270 euros a night, no wonder she refurbished the house. _ Edit: When I posted this I didn't have a clue I'd be visiting Venice less than one year after commenting this. I had mixed feelings because I saw lots of closed places and not taken care of, at the same time, I was one more in the hordes of people who visit the city everyday. It must be a nightmare for the locals to have all of those people visiting it. Still, despite the places that are run down and the occasional smelly place, most of the city is absolutely gorgeous (if you're into old cities).
@@nadzrinpuad1283 yeah you probably make a buck or two in venice like that but still. most people underestimate all the work hours, all the organization, complains, repairs, travel etc. We also rent out stuff and you think it's easy work but it's like a second job basically. I think in venice you have less trouble having someone rent your place like every week (or even every day) or so but that's not always the case. It's USUALLY not that easy money as people think. Not sure about venice though Lol
These are all consequences of a free market system. The problem is not the tourist or the ships or the airbnbs. The problem is poor management and corruption.
So the problem is free market or poor management and corruption? they're not the same thing, government run enterprises and employees can be just as or more corrupt than big bankers.
Sadly, these problems are common to most holiday resorts. I worked as a cop in a resort of over 350,000 people and it was astonishing how people behaved while on vacation. I later worked in a university town and the students were just as badly behaved. Around the world it's $, £, €, ¥ that drives the economies. That will never change.
I know this program is already 3 yrs old, but I am relieved to learn that the floating monstrosities are now banned from the Grand Canal. Just watching them slowly floating by, was like some bloated beast devouring the the harmonic ambiance of Venice. I hope the Italian government will finally do something and open its eyes to the fact that a treasure like Venice, once gone will never return. I know Venice intimately, and my heart weeps for its inevitable demise. There's a French song from the 60's, Charles Aznavour, I believe, where one of the verses says, "...que c'est triste Venize!" (Venice, it's so sad.) How ironic that a city known for its mirth, frolic and merriment should meet such a sad end.
absolute outrage. After many years we're close to fulfilling our dream of visiting Venice next year. After watching this there's no way we'll do it by ship. Some of us tourists still deeply respect hosts!
"...it is important that you don't give up, fight fight fight" The scene where the Venetian protesters yell their message over loudspeakers to the cruise ship and ALL of its passengers that eventually passes by at night gave me goose bumps. I'm very glad to hear that their hard work paid off. Power to the people ~ !!!
It just baffles me that a city with a tourism of 30 million visitors a year would have such severe housing problems that you would see in 3rd world countries. Where did all the money go??!! Why weren't the money used to fix these urgent problems?
Except for Rome, Venice IS the regular size of an Italian city, which of course makes it all the more vulnerable. The Italian government has a lot to answer for also, on so many levels.
The ships should dock elsewhere and tourism trade could transport to Venice to protect the area. The cruise ship looks a eye sore among the ancient architecture.
Bill There's a difference between Venice proper (the city on the lagoon) and the municipality, that includes the 'ugly' residential areas on the mainland (such as Marghera, which is shown here - the area where Silvia is moving to).
The Municipality of Venice is just over 260,000, while the historic center (the part that is in the lagoon) is only around 55,000. Remeber that the city of Venice has boroughs like Mestre and Marghera that are on the mainland.
Such thought provoking documentaries from DW are much appreciated. While I was young, my father and my elder brother made a home based antenna to collect distant radio waves and succeeded. I remember listening to Deutsche Welle broadcasts over radio. That was in 1983
I’m so glad I visited Venice in 1984. There seemed a lot of tourists then but nothing like the situation today. The city council should hike the charges to tour ships to help pay off its debts. It really should ban them altogether. It’s a tragedy, such a beautiful city being slowly strangled by tourists and depopulated of its residents.
Absolutely, tourism is harming Venice. As more and more tourists roam the city, ever more citizens are moving out. They are overwhelmed by the masses. Now less then 50.000 citizens still live in Venice.
Idiot. Tourism is just the greatest income source. Italy is very poorly industrialized country in comparison to germany for instance. Covid only did for the nature of the place like water quality
What a silly comment. Tourism is vital for Venice, but there's a limit. I'm from Florence, I've lived surrounded by tourists all my life so I get it. We are happy to share the beauty of our cities, but just as long as you are not damaging us or our future by treating it as an amusement park. All we ask is respect, then everyone is welcome.
@@HamelinSong , My comment was a sarcastic one. You did not get it. If not for tourism Venice would loose almost all its revenue. All they should do is regulate tourism and not let the tourist over run the wonderful city.
Nope, without tourists, it's even worse.. majority of income is from tourists Venetians were never anti-tourists, they are just asking to ban the cruise ships and regulate the number of tourists
@@HamelinSong I couldn't agree more with you. Over tourism causes more damage like pollution, destruction, over pricing among others, than anything else.
When we’re cruise ships first allowed in? I visited around 1997, by train, and it was gorgeous and charming. The hotel was quaint, not modern or corporate. They had actual keys hanging on a keyboard! I bought a watercolor from a working street artist. I don’t remember junky tourist booths.
Kat Covina pre 2000 there was no easy jet and the internet had not been around that long and people went to travel agents more than doing their way. I worked in flight sales for several years and left when the changes started. The world is a much smaller place now. 20 years ago Thailand wasn't really a package holiday destination for your average holidaymaker. Now you get all you can eat packages to most world resorts.
16:45 The solution is not to control how much an Airbnb can make, but rather to force all Airbnb's to be licensed and control the number of licenses approved.
I don't see problems, I see opportunities. Venice needs to cash in on the tourists. Raise the financial bar for entry into Venice which will reduce the tourist load to well behaved high income earners. Hand out those 500 euro fines like candy for uncivilized behavior, unauthorized tourist guides, etc. Charge a Venice destination fee to all tourists which will be used for historical preservation and upkeep. The city should fix all the abandoned apartments and rent them out in competition with airbnb. The city should also audit all the apartments listed on airbnb and get back taxes, this is what U.S. cities do.
The USA is a country where rule of law works. In matters such as this where it the local authorities who enforce, there are too many vested interests at play. Drive the bulk of the non-paying tourists away and 5,000 jobs selling Chinese tat to them go, too. Those 5,000 contribute to the city's coffers. Yes, in Italy, some laws are draconian and vigorously applied, but if you look more closely you'll see that it's the national police forces (Polizia di Stato, Corpo Forestale and Carabinieri) that enforce them. The local police force (Vigili Urbani) who would have to enforce the measures you suggest, have to live next door to the people their fining; they may be relatives. It wouldn't happen - I've even seen a motorist persuade a Vigile to throw away the ticket he was writing in Piazza Venezia in Rome. Like many apparently straightforward solutions, when faced with Italy, the method suggested soon appears naive. It was Italy who gave us Macchiavelli.
Holy shit, I would hate to see a huge load of tourists in my area everyday... Venice needs to really increase that entry charge and give out tickets....
The problem isn't only that the city isn't earning enough money from tourists, its also that the higher the price for renting to tourists, the more that Venice residents have to pay for accommodation. They need to have tourist police dressed in plain clothes that regulate the tourists behaviour and the people who try to run illegal air b n b and tours. they have tourist police in Jamaica, most people don't even notice. They also need to have rent control where the rent can't be raised above the inflation rate.
It’s always about the money. “Undeclared income”. We went to Amsterdam last year and rented a canal boat to stay on. The owner said don’t tell anyone you rented this. The city is so expensive they are trying to make money under the table.
1000 euro for apt? I paid 800 dollars a month for a room with three roomatea on 12 an hour in FL. plus public transportation doesn't fare well at all so ad 250 a month car payment, 110 car insuranve, 150 month gas plus 300 for food. social spending not included. we can't even afford to have children in the Usa anymore in the middle to lower class. plus the is is billions in debt.
In life there are those who consume, and those who create. Venice is a city being damaged by over-consumption. The reason these people visit Venice is because creators failed elsewhere in the world to make fulfilling environments for people to enjoy. The issue is not that venice is too beautiful - It is that those responsible for creation elsewhere in the world have not created environments like these accessible for people to enjoy. Tourism is not about adventure or exploration for these people - It's about escaping an unfulfilling environment and experiencing 'what could be'. In recent years, much of the western world is obsessed with money to the extent that they forget that money is only as valuable as the quality of life it brings. We're fixated on terms such as 'economy', 'market', 'stocks'. Many people skip meals, sleep and fall sick in this endless pursuit of 'wealth', but forget that 'wealth' is also about personal health and quality of life. Many people seek 'careers' and ask how much money they can make - But don't ask themselves, what they are contributing to the world and themselves. The world needs more people who recognize that it's not just 'for the taking' and that sometimes it is important to create, add to the world, give.
People flock to Venice and other like places in Europe because most cities around the world are littered with monstrous and utterly hideous modern structures.
More thanks for correctionn + more thanks for this Informative video. Awaited for the beautiful+ small business video in this beautiful country "Italy".
I am British and have visited Venice twice. It is so lovely, I have never visited such a beautiful place ever. Everything about it was full of history and atmosphere. But I shall never visit again if it damages your beautiful home. Maybe tourist numbers could be limited on a daily basis and the true Venetians get their city back. I support you all the way. Perhaps you could take your protest to the rest of the world, I think you may get quite a lot of support to save such a wonderful treasure that Venice is. 🇬🇧
35:16 To fix a fuel problem by using a different fuel is an problem unfixed. The answer is seize all of what is being attempted to undo and wait for direction. That way your mind can think.
this makes me so sad though... I was wondering when I went there but.. ugh this city is beautiful. That’s why I adore it. But as beautiful as it may be, like a fairytale really, I felt like it was missing something at some points... even on the train there. The city before the final stop... it looked so sad honestly and I was so curious as to why.. what was I seeing.. later I looked up why and apparently it’s cause a lot of people have to live there and can’t even live in Venezia... stuff like this.. and this is why. This makes me so sad as a tourist. What is a city without its people? This city is beautiful but people make a place what it is place, people make a city. So the fact that Venezia’s people suffer saddens me. Such a beautiful place but with such sadness befalls to those who see its beauty from its truest points... those who make this city. I want to cry.
I'm a tourist too. I really want to visit Venice. But after watch this video I don't want to go there anymore. I don't want my selfish need to further damage the city and exacerbate its decay. Perhaps one day the locals can fight back and put up a quota so that a sustainable number of travellers can visit the city each year.
It's a problem in all 'tourist' cities around the world. I've been to Venice twice, ten years ago. It's a special place but it has big problems now - they should stop those cruise ships coming through asap.
I liked your video because tourist documents only show the places that they want people to see and you expose the truth about what's really going on to the people who live there. Thank You!
I've never been to Venice only seen it on films or in documentaries and I think that's enough for me LOL. As much as I respect the ambience of the city I don't think I want to go to a place for one that's flooded by tourists I hate crowds second whose residents are unhappy with the tourists 1 less tourist to deal with :-) But I totally do understand the residents!! I'm sure its complicated
I went but it really was like a themepark. In South Africa they built a mall to look like an Italian town and Venice felt like that, like it was just a movie set
20 years ago, Venice used to be a day trip for me - it was busy except in the depths of winter when it was stunningly cold (the wind off the lagoon). I don't think I'll ever go there again. That thought saddens me enormously. Travel is too easy and accessible, today. We end up ruining those things we love the most.
Airbnb is ruining the world one city at a time!!!! For 9 years I did short-term subleasing to people from abroad coming to NYC for school or work purposes. As a host on Airbnb since 2011, I only started using the site exclusively. My prices are driven down at the suggestion of Airbnb, while the cost of living in NYC goes up each year. Last year I made 6k less than I would if I did the long term. This is just another example of the "Have's" getting even more than the "Have Not's"!
Agree! I've also read countless articles where owners are surprised and upset that their tenants are subletting their properties on Airbnb without their permission. I sure hope that you have permission to sublease.
Venetians should occupy the abandoned social houses of the government. They may have to develop their own initiatives, spend their own money and do repairs themselves and not wait for government subsidies. The government should not evict these Venetians but instead find a better way to earn through charging affordable rent to them or much better, sell the apartments to them with strict government rules for maintenance. If maintenance is not up to par, there will be city fines. This way, the spirit of Venice through its culture practiced by its Venetian Citizens will leave-on. Big ships should not be allowed inside the canals of Venice. There should be a port on the tip of a Venice Island. In this way, the Venetians will be able to create their own economy around it.
Modern architecture caused this and the Venetian architecture only can quench the thirst of beauty from the tourist that is visiting this city. They cannot built structures like these anymore. Business men are short sighted and they want unoriginal ugly cold skyscrapers and urban planning made for cars. If only the Venice type of city can be the norm of city design, unlike the cold glass skyscrapers, and then it will not be special, and then tourist won't go to these type of places.
now that is an original and insightful observation. My mother survived Berlin as a Jew and visiting it again when the issue was the Berlin wall was an opportunity to talk to people who lived through the Walter Gropius, le Corbusier and other modernist archictural periods, not to mention the ugly monuments to himself Hitler commissioned. They have hilarious names for these buildings which cheered me up immensely. Like London, the city was bombed extensively so it's not its beauty that is important but the enduring spirit of a bunch of people who like New Yorkers defy classification.
I remember watching this documentary end of 2019 while researching about Over Tourism , and then in 2020 Corina happened , from over tourism to zero tourism 😊
Although I love this beautiful city which I've visited twice in my life, I feel that I wouldn't want to add to the problems they are facing by visiting again. Tourism is completely out of control and has destroyed Venice. What has happened to it is an absolute shame and an example of stupid greed. This program has further impressed on me the negative aspects of the Airbnb phenomenon, which will impact the way I choose to travel in the future. I wish the Venetians all the best of luck in their fight to regain their home.
I lived in Venice, and I worked as a hotel manager. Yes the kind of tourism that is coming now is certainly harming Venice. It is not a city for mass tourism. It has lost the personality of a romantic city, too many and many rood persons. Restaurants and bars are mostly Chinese... The real venitians are gone. Too many hotels, BB and apartments. In the 80 it was still the real Venice now not any more, I fled and changed city. 😢
13:14 'increasingly foreigners' - she is a German (or German Swiss) living in Italy and they are talking about the foreigners. :) I'm very surprised that the Chinese haven't swarmed in like locusts and bought everything.
Those cruise ships are both moving hotels and shopping centres, so the locals interpretation of Venice as a theme park is so goddamn accurate. Nothing is coming into the city because the cruise ship takes care of everything for the tourists, they just venture off to walk around and return when it is no longer convenient to walk around the city.
I visited Venice in 1968 and again in 2004, towards end and start of season, so it wasn’t too bad. I totally fell in love with it and have collected many books set in and about Venice. I am very sad about the bad effect tourism has on this magical place. I wouldn’t allow any cruise ships into Venice. They look horrific and spoil so many places all over the world, yet people flock to these cruises. They are one of the major pollutants of the oceans too!
Lisbon is facing the same problem with tourism. there are Airbnb apartments in every corner of the city and the traditional azulejos - ceramic tiles used to decorate building - are being ripped off the walls just to be sold as souvenirs. Mass tourism is not only ruining Venice or Lisbon but many other cities in Europe and around the world. If we want those places to last another hundred years, we must change...
Bad behavior of tourists you see everywhere. Screaming, pissing in front of you against a wall, aggressive, singing loud during the night, listening to music very loud from their phones, throwing away trash on the streets and don't care about people or nature in general. So it is sadly not only Venice. I feel bad to be a tourist myself when I explore other countries, so I try to get familiar to the rules and some things you just don't do in general, even not when you are at home. So always show respect. Makes me kind of sad...been to Venice with my Italian friend who studied there and I was overwhelmed by the crowds of people.
I loved visiting Venice but I agree that any badly behaved tourists should be punished ... Hell even Disneyland has strict rules and people do get detained and kicked out ( I know, I have friends who’ve worked in Disneyland)... oh and I do think those cruise ships should be banned
Sounds like the city government needs to get their shit together. If tourism is so hot, they should be profiting from it, not have a crumbling, decaying city.
I live in Prague and the historic center is turning into the same thing- theme park populated by short-stay tourists, beautiful on the outside, dead inside. All my friends who used to live in that part of the city have since moved out to other districts. Really sad. Number of tourists has doubled over last ten years. Most locals avoid the historic center during the peak tourist months altogether-crowds are just unbearable. Something should be done to regulate the numbers. May be minimum price for a night that would control the numbers of incoming tourists-including high city tax on income from these non-hotel short -term stays. Plus controlling AirBnB-type accomodation so they have to stick to the minimum price.
Exactly the same conflicts are present in Visby, Gotland in Sweden 🇸🇪 but they have tourists only in a few summer weeks.... :-( too expensive for the local people... You should do a program about it!!
Honestly I'm perplexed that they're letting those huge cruise ships inside Venice. It's like driving a BelAZ 75710 haul truck into your city and parking it in front of your flat.
amalia nurlatifah , Government in Italy ??? Government in Italy is about as corrupt as the Mafia . Italy is Europe`s Mexico where crooked police , politicians , and president all sleep together .
I visited three years ago. Beautiful city, historic property and wonderful visit. I was shocked to see a giant cruise ship, it looked very out of place. We made purchases only from small local shops. Best wishes for a better future.
Mum and Dad went about 20 years ago, I asked them if they had a good time. Mum said she got shat on by a gang of pigeons. Decided there and then Venice was somewhere i'd never visit
They have pigeon patrols that capture them at night with big nets then kill them. Tourists expect them in St. Mark's Square so the city has allowed them to feed them in the past.
Why don’t they just tax the hotels and cruise ship companies per person? Venice has like 20 million tourists a year. A couple euros tax on each visitor and a percent tax on cruise tickets and hotels, and they’d recoup 800mil in no time
@@caroselloshow5615 if you look at Bhutan youd know that isnt true. Bhutan charges entry, per day, and many more fees. They save their culture, they reserve the right to kick you from their country, and they make much more money to enrich their people. Someone is always willing to pay.
Caden Young , --Some common sense solutions ( like yours ) don`t work when there are high levels of corruption ---and when the rules you propose are not enforced . Remember the tour guide who said there are 7 illegal guides for every legal guide . The countries that function best are democracies that enforce the laws on the books . Italy is Europe`s Mexico ---highly corrupt.
Carosello Show nobody would accept that?? You’re saying that tourists will avoid Venice because they don’t want to pay a €5 tourism charge? That’s ridiculous.
Housing prices isn't just tourism. I have seen locations outside the tourist areas and way outside the tourist flow have redicolous prices. In fact, it is a wonder the locals can even get a building at all.
A Venitian told me the reason he left was the unbearable high taxes he had to pay living in Venice. The gouvernment itself is driving the locals out of their homes.
Hello! I just wanted to compliment the truthness and accuracy of this documentary and also add a comment: I'm a Venetian myself, and as such, I recognize all of the topics and most of the people showed in the documentary. And I'd like to add that the Airbnb problem is worldwide, and some municipalities like New York and San Francisco have already implemented some legislation. I also must add that I'm shocked to see that the cruisers ship showed is so polluting, I'd imagine that all of the cruisers passing through Venice are the more expensive, luxurious ones: those are actually small cruisers, for a cruiser class ship, and the staff to guest ratio is the highest, about 1 staff per 2 guests, instead of the more economical 1 staff per 3-5 guests ratio that is found on the cheaper huge cruisers ships, it's so that the service quality stays at it's highest, as the ticket price is much higher, it's similar to the ticket economy of airplane operators: low passenger capacity equals to high ticket (small plane vs big plane, and also here there's the staff/luxury ratio to mind) and like with small luxury airplanes, the smaller at time uneconomical and low passenger capacity cruisers are used to get to more particular and smaller ports, like Venice, so I'm amazed that these companies are (for sure) rennovating the interiors, and most-likely upgrading the engines (fiuel cost saving), but don't care to upgrade the exaust compartment... Anyways not as shocking as the immediate need of new resident safeguard legislation, and Airbnb regulation, we too need some resident empowering legislation, like Rent Control in New York and Los Angeles, but something better thought out, as Rent Control may not be a good solution: ua-cam.com/video/oJvTTGOHFkU/v-deo.html Thanks for reading! And to you guys at DW Documentary, thank's very very much for another great documentary!!! Keep it up!!!
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Excellent stuff. Keep it up.
That's all right... never mind my friends.
Thank you DW for these magnificent documentaries!
yea was gonna say its definitely not that old
oh, I would've gone with 10,000 years but for you pointing it out. Tourists? Locusts, pick you clean and then move on, weird and destructive
It would make a bit of difference if they don't allow those humongous cruise liners cross in the middle of the Venice. Even if they're not traveling fast, the waves they create affects the buildings there.
That is the rule for next year, they have to dock away from the main part of the city.
No worries! We will just sail past there at high speed with Ticonderoga cruisers... Then they will also get to hear the screaming turbine noise as well.
A couple of weeks of that treatment and the venetians will welcome big cruise ships back.
@@CMDRSweeper ya... you are a bad boy... keyboard warrior!!
they dont create much wash as they have slowed down even more plus the humongous ships like the ones royal Caribbean have I.e oasis of the seas they dont go as they cant get in as its not wide enough or deep enough, the small boats that speed around all day every day cause more wash and cause more damage to buildings, plus the tidal waves do even more damage
@@LysergikFuneral It should be made clear that the people who own these massive ships pay and pay for their own emissions! What a shame!
Good News Everyone, they've banned the cruise ships, August 2019
Really? Fantastic!! Those cruise ships were the biggest destroyers of this beautiful city. Really good news.
fair enough but what happens when the income to the city goes down or dies out completely, then what?
@@yamahonkawazuki I will not worried about tourism in Venice this is not going to finish anytime soon! I leaved 17 years in Verona is not too far from Venice.
@@alex.m.rotaru8479 tbh as far as cruise ships go I do agree. You have a beautiful country or forgive my poor Italian, bellissimo. Venice was around before the boats will be around far after. Verona is gorgeous as well. Ciao
Andrew Orahoske Lol. You’re stupid
Tourism seems like a problem but it seems like corruption and poor management/taxation which is more of a problem.
take tourism and the cruise ships away from Venice and every venetian business will be gone, as its the cruise ships and tourism thats keeping that city going and alive
@@tonyp011 Yeah but the Airbnb hosts need to pay taxes.
What I'm seeing here is corruption by city officials on a massive scale. It doesn't take a genius to realize that these politicians are accepting bribes to defer taxes and legislation that would protect their own citizens. After watching this I honestly have no desire to EVER visit such a corrupt and inhumane city. What puzzles me is why there aren't massive protests; the French and Italians are notorious for standing up for their rights and demanding responsible and representative governance, why isn't that same ideology and perseverance happening here? Italy and France are amazing countries and it isn't just Venice; I would recommend that tourists avoid this cesspool of corruption and support the citizens of Venice by taking their tourism (and money) to other areas of Italy and France. Southern France is miraculous and not to be missed. If you truly want to experience more than 'trinkets', avoid Venice and explore the countryside of Italy and France, you won't be disappointed.
@@SecondTake123 That's called corruption! The bank and off-shore accounts of Venice politicians would show amazing profits that far exceed the wages of the corrupt established order.
If you've ever lived in Italy it is a sad fact that corruption is endemic. Put that fact together with tourism etc. and one of the most important cultural centres in the western world historically really is doomed. And that is tragic. Really appreciated your comment.
this is happening all over the world if you notice...The long life residence of a place are getting pushed out by those with more money in order to turn a profit. This cannot last, its not sustainable.
Yes. It is horrible. I live in Los Angeles, and I cannot afford to retire here. I have to leave. I raised my kids here. All of my memories are here.
It's getting out of control and it can't last long. It will be a DISASTER when the bubble bursts.
Those with money love to live near water, so in some cities long term residence have been displaced so that the wealthy can buy up beach front properties. They do not care about the families who have lived there for several generations--it is all about turning a profit. People do not count when it comes to money! This is a human phenomena, and we appear blind to the side effects.
@@northofyou33 I can't afford to live where I grew up I moved. I can't make the income my parents make? I moved. I chose a more balanced life over higher income, my choice. I own my home in Seattle now but if I can't afford mortgage It is not my house. It is not your house till you pay your last payment even without mortgage. if you don't pay the rising property tax do you think you still own your house? the government will auction it off to pay your taxes. In the end NO ONE Really owns their home. You either make more or move some where else you can afford. You can make new memories with your family, doing nothing about it leads no where. What about the population before you moved there? they were also displaced unless you are native for 100+ years. Maybe because I immigrated to two different countries I never felt entitlement to where I grew up. No one ever owns a city or the entitlement, not even the city council.
I was born and lived most of my life in Sydney. There’s no way I could afford to live there now, and I wouldn’t even want to, it’s been ruined by corporate greed and government corruption. So sad.
Italians speaking English is so fun. Woodsa, licensa, yesa, polisa, montha, daysa, importanta, which makes them sound so sincere.
Or my favorite, “Mario Mandzukicha”. Forza Juve.
It is expected of non-native English language speakers.
At least they speck English do you speak Italian I bet you don't
@@mutatis-mutandis oh come on, its cute
At minimum, they shouldn't let cruise ships go down the Giudecca Canal.
They should move the cruise terminal further away from the city center.
Cruiseships bring people who spend money. They don't affect rental / hotels situation. They sleep onboard :)
@@gerul74 watch the video. they explained that the "Cruise ships brings money" excuse is not true.
I think they should make the ships moor out at sea and use tenders to bring in the tourists.
@@garym8348 I totally agree.
YES its harming Venice. When I first realized they let those awful cruise ships that close. Who's dumb idea was that!!
The politician carrying the money bags. Real dumb, huh?
I'ts only happen in a corrupt country. ( let behind the smalls and think the prosperous of the bigs).
In non corrupt country is the other way : think the prosperous of the smalls and let the bigs support it).
I don't read it from the book, but i've seen it by my own eyes . I've been in Scandinavian countries, south Europe and Asia and i spoke to the local, learnt a lot. I saw the big differences. I am asian ( come from one of the most corrupt country in Asia / Indonesia) and it was really interresting for me. Some peoples might be called it communism , but in my point of view there is nothing to do with communism.
+Jason J.Ayala P. You do know average Venice citizens never get a dime of that money, right? That, plus the constant damage from idiotic tourists, tends to do a number.
For over 50 years Venice has not been a living city.
Everything is about tourism, nothing else. Those who live there make a living out of tourism.
It is Italian Euro Disney, no schools, no normal daily live.
Events are organized for tourist, all theater, nothing authentic.
thats not the tourists fault they only pay to visit and buy products from them to keep their economy going, if the tourists were to stop visiting Venice then Venice will not survive as their own elected officials won't lift a finger to help them so they rely on the tourists
@@tonyp011
There are no inhabitants of old Venice, and have not been there for over fifty years. Families moved to modern Venice, a suburb outside, and only one family member (in shifts) lives in the attic, collects the keys in the morning, cleans the rooms and distributes the keys in the afternoon to the new arrivals. Some tourists can afford to stay longer and are guides to other tourists, like the German lady. But they can hardly be called inhabitants.
Management of this tourists attraction has always been about money.
The man complaining is not a Venetian, but an investor in a shop who doesn't like it that cruise passengers get a guided tour, eat in a restaurant that has a contract with the cruise company, and are brought back to the cruise ship to buy souvenirs. So they do not get time to buy in his shop.
Tourism that came to the campings and took a ferry to freely visit Venice, has dropped because of extreme high camping fees, overcrowded places, and very bad maintenance of facilities.
Every day at exactly 11:00 the same couple marries at the Rialto bridge, payed by the gondola company. Just like the funeral party at exactly 15:00 every day with an empty coffin. Nothing is real, everything is faked.
Right now the cruise companies pay the management the most money and are allowed to organize trips in such a way that only they collect the spending of their passengers, by contracts with restaurants, gondola companies and souvenir shops. Like sheep the Chinese are toured around and are not allowed to leave the herd.
@@dutchman7623, if it's like Disney World, they should have admission like Disney World. 150€ per head entrance fee. If that doesn't put a dent onto the flood .. 200€.
@@dutchman7623 Same as any other big European tourist location and heck even in America, that is why I prefer places in France, Spain or whatever most go to see authentic culture that is being lost so rapidly in today's world. Even in America, I'm ticked when I see what they've done to almost every places.
@@tomasbickel58 I agree! Many people are staying outside of Venice in beachside hotels and they go on daytrips. They don't pay for accomodation there, don't buy souvenirs and probably don't even spend money on food. It would be reasonable to to pay a fee so the city can profit from tourists who doesn't spend their money there.
This is all very true but the documentary fails to adequately point out who created this mess, ie the Venetian authorities. They dredged the water ways and built cruise ship terminals to attract cruise ships. They gave planning permission for the creation of new hotels and have just invested heavily in Marco Polo airport, all to attract more tourists. You can hardly blame people for wanting to visit such a beautiful city. Instead of the local inhabitants harassing tourists on ships they should harass their elected officials, or better still stand for office themselves
Incontrovertable point made; I think the documentary alludes to it but definitely not adequately. Italy is a political mess, which makes me very sad. I studied at the Sorbonne during the Mitterand years when people were muttering about socialism; I've never seen such a well organized country at the time, Sweden at its best. Now it's in tatters; the great cathedral Notre Dame badly damaged mid april, a bunch of billionaires pledge large sums for which they get over 60% tax right-offs; not one of them has coughed up a penny and the French ordinary citizen is bearing the brunt of its reconstruction. Le Pen's daughter has a significant following -- extreme right wing groups are all over Europe, so yes it's wonderful to be outraged by Trump and perhaps Brexit but look at the picture of the first world and it's not pretty at all.
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shhh shh too logical
Easy for you to say, you don't live here you don't know what it's like.
And also the protest is a simbol as they said in the documentary there also office meeting with officials but those alone are not enough.
I just love the background research for your documentaries. So clear.
Yes , Deutsche Welle presents well and clearly.
“To build a city where it is impossible to build a city is madness in itself, but to build there one of the most elegant and grandest of cities is the madness of genius.” Alexander Herzen
I feel sorry for all the craftsman and artisans who made this city. They put love and pride in what they did into their work. Imagine if they could see this.
This was so interesting. As a tourist myself, I was in this amazing city back in 2011. It definitely put me under its spell of its amazing magic. The people were amazing. But watching this saddens me so much and I knew but didn’t realise the extent of the damage tourism is causing to beautiful Venice. I truly respected the culture and rules while there. But to see its community been driven out and struggle to live in their own city is an outcry. I’m glad that ships are no longer a loud to go there to dock but the problem still remains. This beautiful place needs saving. I can say that I will never return, not because I don’t want too but because I can not afford too. Even if I could the city is fast losing its attraction due to the tourists. But I will always have my fond memories of the beauty it was in 2011.
Good luck to the locals and shame on the council and laws that allow what’s happened. Corruption at its finest
This city is too fragile to allow these big cruise ships to dock inside the city. People continue the good fight to save your city.
Yes! what if one bumped into a precious old building!
270 euros a night, no wonder she refurbished the house.
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Edit: When I posted this I didn't have a clue I'd be visiting Venice less than one year after commenting this. I had mixed feelings because I saw lots of closed places and not taken care of, at the same time, I was one more in the hordes of people who visit the city everyday. It must be a nightmare for the locals to have all of those people visiting it. Still, despite the places that are run down and the occasional smelly place, most of the city is absolutely gorgeous (if you're into old cities).
Compare with 900 euros per month for long term rental. That is a huge bucks different.
Yup
@@nadzrinpuad1283 yeah you probably make a buck or two in venice like that but still. most people underestimate all the work hours, all the organization, complains, repairs, travel etc. We also rent out stuff and you think it's easy work but it's like a second job basically. I think in venice you have less trouble having someone rent your place like every week (or even every day) or so but that's not always the case. It's USUALLY not that easy money as people think. Not sure about venice though Lol
Kauê Moura that's less than 100 per night pp. pretty good in today's world.
How awesome would it be to own a home like that there.
These are all consequences of a free market system. The problem is not the tourist or the ships or the airbnbs. The problem is poor management and corruption.
I would say both.
Roger that! NOT the cruise behemoths, but corruption!
"Hunger is only in your minds!" Stalin addressing the Gulag prisoners.
The best alternative if you ask me is the Venus Project
So the problem is free market or poor management and corruption? they're not the same thing, government run enterprises and employees can be just as or more corrupt than big bankers.
an unfree market can have the same problems. it's all about better regulation.
Sadly, these problems are common to most holiday resorts. I worked as a cop in a resort of over 350,000 people and it was astonishing how people behaved while on vacation. I later worked in a university town and the students were just as badly behaved. Around the world it's $, £, €, ¥ that drives the economies. That will never change.
I know this program is already 3 yrs old, but I am relieved to learn that the floating monstrosities are now banned from the Grand Canal. Just watching them slowly floating by, was like some bloated beast devouring the the harmonic ambiance of Venice. I hope the Italian government will finally do something and open its eyes to the fact that a treasure like Venice, once gone will never return. I know Venice intimately, and my heart weeps for its inevitable demise. There's a French song from the 60's, Charles Aznavour, I believe, where one of the verses says, "...que c'est triste Venize!" (Venice, it's so sad.) How ironic that a city known for its mirth, frolic and merriment should meet such a sad end.
absolute outrage.
After many years we're close to fulfilling our dream of visiting Venice next year. After watching this there's no way we'll do it by ship. Some of us tourists still deeply respect hosts!
Thank you for your decison! Not many tourists are as responsible as you.
"...it is important that you don't give up, fight fight fight"
The scene where the Venetian protesters yell their message over loudspeakers to the cruise ship and ALL of its passengers that eventually passes by at night gave me goose bumps. I'm very glad to hear that their hard work paid off. Power to the people ~ !!!
It just baffles me that a city with a tourism of 30 million visitors a year would have such severe housing problems that you would see in 3rd world countries. Where did all the money go??!! Why weren't the money used to fix these urgent problems?
Oy, try living in an Italian city and surviving the kick-back system -- only love of ones roots keeps one living there.
As an Italian : the money that Venice makes doesn’t go to Venice it goes to the capital city (Rome) and then it is divided in the rest of Italy
Corruption!
Italy is Extremely Corrupt!
Mafia!
@@angelicamimosa hahaha
@@jamiearmstrong1598 same in Cape Town, the big money spinner of South Africa
One of the best tourist spots in the world and you manage to have 800 million euro debt... Great management!
In reality we have 2.000 billion euros debt
800 million is nothing
That is what greed and lack of regulation does.
Italy should have a cap for a maximum number of tourists coming, especially smaller cities like Venice.
Enough is enough
Couldn't agree more. Everything has a limit, a capacity.
Except for Rome, Venice IS the regular size of an Italian city, which of course makes it all the more vulnerable. The Italian government has a lot to answer for also, on so many levels.
Coronavirus did that
The ships should dock elsewhere and tourism trade could transport to Venice to protect the area. The cruise ship looks a eye sore among the ancient architecture.
Should be banned I bet COVID-19 has changed thing’s
@@johnelliott9962 They have been banned.
Like a massive alien spacecraft
It’s happening everywhere. Society is on a collision course.
Tourism is a cancer.
@@davidhoogendyke2774 Truth!
well, look at us now :)
Jan 2022
Very true! Every city is very accessible now
20 million tourist and 55,000 populations, wow! so exhausting
Rudy Utomo 😮😮
It says 260,000 on google, is it wrong ?
Bill There's a difference between Venice proper (the city on the lagoon) and the municipality, that includes the 'ugly' residential areas on the mainland (such as Marghera, which is shown here - the area where Silvia is moving to).
The Municipality of Venice is just over 260,000, while the historic center (the part that is in the lagoon) is only around 55,000. Remeber that the city of Venice has boroughs like Mestre and Marghera that are on the mainland.
@Charlie K 77 quadrillions
Such thought provoking documentaries from DW are much appreciated. While I was young, my father and my elder brother made a home based antenna to collect distant radio waves and succeeded. I remember listening to Deutsche Welle broadcasts over radio. That was in 1983
I’m so glad I visited Venice in 1984. There seemed a lot of tourists then but nothing like the situation today. The city council should hike the charges to tour ships to help pay off its debts. It really should ban them altogether. It’s a tragedy, such a beautiful city being slowly strangled by tourists and depopulated of its residents.
Absolutely, tourism is harming Venice. As more and more tourists roam the city, ever more citizens are moving out. They are overwhelmed by the masses. Now less then 50.000 citizens still live in Venice.
Venetians must be Happy now that Corona Virus has saved their city from these pesky tourists.
Idiot. Tourism is just the greatest income source. Italy is very poorly industrialized country in comparison to germany for instance. Covid only did for the nature of the place like water quality
What a silly comment. Tourism is vital for Venice, but there's a limit. I'm from Florence, I've lived surrounded by tourists all my life so I get it. We are happy to share the beauty of our cities, but just as long as you are not damaging us or our future by treating it as an amusement park. All we ask is respect, then everyone is welcome.
@@HamelinSong , My comment was a sarcastic one. You did not get it. If not for tourism Venice would loose almost all its revenue. All they should do is regulate tourism and not let the tourist over run the wonderful city.
Nope, without tourists, it's even worse.. majority of income is from tourists
Venetians were never anti-tourists, they are just asking to ban the cruise ships and regulate the number of tourists
@@HamelinSong I couldn't agree more with you. Over tourism causes more damage like pollution, destruction, over pricing among others, than anything else.
@8:00 that 1-BR apartment is ONLY €900 ?!, here in NY/NJ metro you can't even rent a ROOM !
When we’re cruise ships first allowed in? I visited around 1997, by train, and it was gorgeous and charming. The hotel was quaint, not modern or corporate. They had actual keys hanging on a keyboard! I bought a watercolor from a working street artist. I don’t remember junky tourist booths.
Wow...that is barely 10 years ago...so sad how the world is changing since the Internet and cell phones
Kat Covina pre 2000 there was no easy jet and the internet had not been around that long and people went to travel agents more than doing their way. I worked in flight sales for several years and left when the changes started.
The world is a much smaller place now.
20 years ago Thailand wasn't really a package holiday destination for your average holidaymaker. Now you get all you can eat packages to most world resorts.
Lucky you.
@@chandnikumarov4459 10 years, more like 20 lmao
33:00 the most serious respiratory problems in Venice are produced by MOLD in damp houses and alleys
2:05 Matteo Secchi, the biggest Venetian legend!
16:45 The solution is not to control how much an Airbnb can make, but rather to force all Airbnb's to be licensed and control the number of licenses approved.
Excellent work. I just love how your team puts together these documentaries.
28:00 Venice is 800 million Euros in Debt. It takes special kind of talent to fall so low. Even us in the Balkans would have hard time doing that.
Berlin, which is not only a city but a German city state, is 59 Billion in debt. Billion, with a B!!
I don't see problems, I see opportunities. Venice needs to cash in on the tourists. Raise the financial bar for entry into Venice which will reduce the tourist load to well behaved high income earners. Hand out those 500 euro fines like candy for uncivilized behavior, unauthorized tourist guides, etc. Charge a Venice destination fee to all tourists which will be used for historical preservation and upkeep. The city should fix all the abandoned apartments and rent them out in competition with airbnb. The city should also audit all the apartments listed on airbnb and get back taxes, this is what U.S. cities do.
I was wondering the same, how the fuck Venice is 800M EUR in debt, since they could earn a fortune from those tourists...
The USA is a country where rule of law works. In matters such as this where it the local authorities who enforce, there are too many vested interests at play. Drive the bulk of the non-paying tourists away and 5,000 jobs selling Chinese tat to them go, too. Those 5,000 contribute to the city's coffers. Yes, in Italy, some laws are draconian and vigorously applied, but if you look more closely you'll see that it's the national police forces (Polizia di Stato, Corpo Forestale and Carabinieri) that enforce them. The local police force (Vigili Urbani) who would have to enforce the measures you suggest, have to live next door to the people their fining; they may be relatives. It wouldn't happen - I've even seen a motorist persuade a Vigile to throw away the ticket he was writing in Piazza Venezia in Rome. Like many apparently straightforward solutions, when faced with Italy, the method suggested soon appears naive. It was Italy who gave us Macchiavelli.
..just because an earner's income is high - doesn't automatically mean they're going to be well-behaved (*president trump; case in point
Holy shit, I would hate to see a huge load of tourists in my area everyday... Venice needs to really increase that entry charge and give out tickets....
The problem isn't only that the city isn't earning enough money from tourists, its also that the higher the price for renting to tourists, the more that Venice residents have to pay for accommodation. They need to have tourist police dressed in plain clothes that regulate the tourists behaviour and the people who try to run illegal air b n b and tours. they have tourist police in Jamaica, most people don't even notice. They also need to have rent control where the rent can't be raised above the inflation rate.
37:13 Those who Know large ships also Know there are littles too. They are similar, they both pollute.
It’s always about the money. “Undeclared income”. We went to Amsterdam last year and rented a canal boat to stay on. The owner said don’t tell anyone you rented this. The city is so expensive they are trying to make money under the table.
Owner says don't tell anyone. Goes on youtube and posts it on a comment. Well played.
Paul Reinhard You have no idea who they are.
@@IrishAnnie Of course not, I just thought it was funny. All the best.
I hoped Matteo was wise and bought an apartment on the mainland. A 15 minute commute by bus is not bad.
I'm amazed at how well everyone is speaking English. Always so great when people can handle a language other than their native one.
I love watching your documentaries; they are just great. I like how problem is displayed and DW doesn’t voice its own opinion.
usman raja I agree very unbiased objective documentaries.
usman raja 50 euro a day pls for me :)
pretty shirty in the US these days too unless you are wealthy. the great divide, will eventually arrive
shell company just showed a cruise liner ad lmao
1000 euro for apt? I paid 800 dollars a month for a room with three roomatea on 12 an hour in FL. plus public transportation doesn't fare well at all so ad 250 a month car payment, 110 car insuranve, 150 month gas plus 300 for food. social spending not included. we can't even afford to have children in the Usa anymore in the middle to lower class. plus the is is billions in debt.
In life there are those who consume, and those who create. Venice is a city being damaged by over-consumption. The reason these people visit Venice is because creators failed elsewhere in the world to make fulfilling environments for people to enjoy. The issue is not that venice is too beautiful - It is that those responsible for creation elsewhere in the world have not created environments like these accessible for people to enjoy. Tourism is not about adventure or exploration for these people - It's about escaping an unfulfilling environment and experiencing 'what could be'. In recent years, much of the western world is obsessed with money to the extent that they forget that money is only as valuable as the quality of life it brings. We're fixated on terms such as 'economy', 'market', 'stocks'. Many people skip meals, sleep and fall sick in this endless pursuit of 'wealth', but forget that 'wealth' is also about personal health and quality of life. Many people seek 'careers' and ask how much money they can make - But don't ask themselves, what they are contributing to the world and themselves. The world needs more people who recognize that it's not just 'for the taking' and that sometimes it is important to create, add to the world, give.
People flock to Venice and other like places in Europe because most cities around the world are littered with monstrous and utterly hideous modern structures.
Well said.
Eloquently put!
More thanks for correctionn + more thanks for this Informative video. Awaited for the beautiful+ small business video in this beautiful country "Italy".
Tourists are destroying our city. Corona: Hold my beer!
Covid19 helped allot of tourists cities to recover from pollution,,, may the people who passed away with rest in peace.
Corona : you're welcome.
not funny
Thanks again DW for another fine documentary! I'm becoming a big fan of them.
Thanks for watching! We're glad you enjoy our content. :-)
good documentary... well put together and presented.
That protest on boats and then the cops on boats was the slowest charge at protestors by any cop in the world. xD
I am British and have visited Venice twice. It is so lovely, I have never visited such a beautiful place ever. Everything about it was full of history and atmosphere. But I shall never visit again if it damages your beautiful home. Maybe tourist numbers could be limited on a daily basis and the true Venetians get their city back. I support you all the way. Perhaps you could take your protest to the rest of the world, I think you may get quite a lot of support to save such a wonderful treasure that Venice is. 🇬🇧
It's not just Venice.Calabria too(my home) and other regions in Italy.The German tourist is by far my most hated tourist EVER.
@@AzizDoufikar2280sorry to hear that, may I ask why?
35:16 To fix a fuel problem by using a different fuel is an problem unfixed. The answer is seize all of what is being attempted to undo and wait for direction. That way your mind can think.
this makes me so sad though... I was wondering when I went there but.. ugh this city is beautiful. That’s why I adore it. But as beautiful as it may be, like a fairytale really, I felt like it was missing something at some points... even on the train there. The city before the final stop... it looked so sad honestly and I was so curious as to why.. what was I seeing.. later I looked up why and apparently it’s cause a lot of people have to live there and can’t even live in Venezia... stuff like this.. and this is why.
This makes me so sad as a tourist.
What is a city without its people?
This city is beautiful but people make a place what it is place, people make a city. So the fact that Venezia’s people suffer saddens me. Such a beautiful place but with such sadness befalls to those who see its beauty from its truest points... those who make this city. I want to cry.
I'm a tourist too. I really want to visit Venice. But after watch this video I don't want to go there anymore. I don't want my selfish need to further damage the city and exacerbate its decay. Perhaps one day the locals can fight back and put up a quota so that a sustainable number of travellers can visit the city each year.
Is tourism harming Venice? is an astonishing documentary! I truly did appreciate it so much. Thanks a lot for sharing! Keep it up!
It's a problem in all 'tourist' cities around the world. I've been to Venice twice, ten years ago. It's a special place but it has big problems now - they should stop those cruise ships coming through asap.
I liked your video because tourist documents only show the places that they want people to see and you expose the truth about what's really going on to the people who live there. Thank You!
Haha. 'it's not very polite to make the sex at the Rialto bridge'. Preach!
Glad I know now 🥳
LOL
Very good program - well done!
I've never been to Venice only seen it on films or in documentaries and I think that's enough for me LOL.
As much as I respect the ambience of the city I don't think I want to go to a place for one that's flooded by tourists I hate crowds second whose residents are unhappy with the tourists 1 less tourist to deal with :-)
But I totally do understand the residents!! I'm sure its complicated
Venice isn't my cup of tea. Still its sad to see it go downhill.
I went but it really was like a themepark. In South Africa they built a mall to look like an Italian town and Venice felt like that, like it was just a movie set
What Mateo and his family went through just to secure his seasonal employment and a new flat is totally unacceptable. Locals must be protected.
20 years ago, Venice used to be a day trip for me - it was busy except in the depths of winter when it was stunningly cold (the wind off the lagoon). I don't think I'll ever go there again. That thought saddens me enormously. Travel is too easy and accessible, today. We end up ruining those things we love the most.
Poor Italy. It has been many years since we have heard good news from you.
Airbnb is ruining the world one city at a time!!!! For 9 years I did short-term subleasing to people from abroad coming to NYC for school or work purposes. As a host on Airbnb since 2011, I only started using the site exclusively. My prices are driven down at the suggestion of Airbnb, while the cost of living in NYC goes up each year. Last year I made 6k less than I would if I did the long term. This is just another example of the "Have's" getting even more than the "Have Not's"!
Then... why keep using it? If you're making less then what's the point, go back to long-term leasing.
Agree! I've also read countless articles where owners are surprised and upset that their tenants are subletting their properties on Airbnb without their permission. I sure hope that you have permission to sublease.
AirBNB and short-term subleasing should be banned. It is definitely one of the causes of rent inflation everywhere.
We have exactly same problems in Prague. Mass tourism is cancer.
Haha i was there July prague's like disneyland.
Venetians should occupy the abandoned social houses of the government. They may have to develop their own initiatives, spend their own money and do repairs themselves and not wait for government subsidies. The government should not evict these Venetians but instead find a better way to earn through charging affordable rent to them or much better, sell the apartments to them with strict government rules for maintenance. If maintenance is not up to par, there will be city fines. This way, the spirit of Venice through its culture practiced by its Venetian Citizens will leave-on.
Big ships should not be allowed inside the canals of Venice. There should be a port on the tip of a Venice Island. In this way, the Venetians will be able to create their own economy around it.
Corruption stands in the way of such common sense solutions. In my country, the same. So frustrating!
What an incredible documentary. I was here last summer so I was able to relate to alot of what was said. Again, great!
Modern architecture caused this and the Venetian architecture only can quench the thirst of beauty from the tourist that is visiting this city. They cannot built structures like these anymore. Business men are short sighted and they want unoriginal ugly cold skyscrapers and urban planning made for cars. If only the Venice type of city can be the norm of city design, unlike the cold glass skyscrapers, and then it will not be special, and then tourist won't go to these type of places.
Thank God for the new urbanists
now that is an original and insightful observation. My mother survived Berlin as a Jew and visiting it again when the issue was the Berlin wall was an opportunity to talk to people who lived through the Walter Gropius, le Corbusier and other modernist archictural periods, not to mention the ugly monuments to himself Hitler commissioned. They have hilarious names for these buildings which cheered me up immensely. Like London, the city was bombed extensively so it's not its beauty that is important but the enduring spirit of a bunch of people who like New Yorkers defy classification.
There is a city info/tourist office directly on the lagoon a few minutes from S. Marco. Next to a little park on the back side of Harry's Bar.
I saw like a 30 story cruise ship it was like bigger than the Island it was docked in.
Yeah, like the ferry from Genua to Sicilly dropping me off on Stromboli...
I remember watching this documentary end of 2019 while researching about Over Tourism , and then in 2020 Corina happened , from over tourism to zero tourism 😊
Although I love this beautiful city which I've visited twice in my life, I feel that I wouldn't want to add to the problems they are facing by visiting again. Tourism is completely out of control and has destroyed Venice. What has happened to it is an absolute shame and an example of stupid greed. This program has further impressed on me the negative aspects of the Airbnb phenomenon, which will impact the way I choose to travel in the future. I wish the Venetians all the best of luck in their fight to regain their home.
I lived in Venice, and I worked as a hotel manager. Yes the kind of tourism that is coming now is certainly harming Venice. It is not a city for mass tourism.
It has lost the personality of a romantic city, too many and many rood persons.
Restaurants and bars are mostly Chinese... The real venitians are gone.
Too many hotels, BB and apartments.
In the 80 it was still the real Venice now not any more, I fled and changed city. 😢
13:14 'increasingly foreigners' - she is a German (or German Swiss) living in Italy and they are talking about the foreigners. :)
I'm very surprised that the Chinese haven't swarmed in like locusts and bought everything.
Mafia must make a very worthy opponent
I really feel for the residents. I've lived in a city where tourism is the dominant industry. We at least got some relief in the off peak season.
Those cruise ships are both moving hotels and shopping centres, so the locals interpretation of Venice as a theme park is so goddamn accurate. Nothing is coming into the city because the cruise ship takes care of everything for the tourists, they just venture off to walk around and return when it is no longer convenient to walk around the city.
That guy absolutely nailed it. Maybe a few tourists buy a coffee or something small like that from a gift shop. 5 or 10 bucks.
Let’s hope that the ships are not allowed back after the COVID lift
Very informative! Thanks for covering this.
I visited Venice in 1968 and again in 2004, towards end and start of season, so it wasn’t too bad. I totally fell in love with it and have collected many books set in and about Venice. I am very sad about the bad effect tourism has on this magical place. I wouldn’t allow any cruise ships into Venice. They look horrific and spoil so many places all over the world, yet people flock to these cruises. They are one of the major pollutants of the oceans too!
Lisbon is facing the same problem with tourism. there are Airbnb apartments in every corner of the city and the traditional azulejos - ceramic tiles used to decorate building - are being ripped off the walls just to be sold as souvenirs. Mass tourism is not only ruining Venice or Lisbon but many other cities in Europe and around the world. If we want those places to last another hundred years, we must change...
6:19 Little girl drinking champagne like a boss!
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I was looking for this comment because I thought “is nobody noticing this?”
Bad behavior of tourists you see everywhere. Screaming, pissing in front of you against a wall, aggressive, singing loud during the night, listening to music very loud from their phones, throwing away trash on the streets and don't care about people or nature in general. So it is sadly not only Venice. I feel bad to be a tourist myself when I explore other countries, so I try to get familiar to the rules and some things you just don't do in general, even not when you are at home. So always show respect. Makes me kind of sad...been to Venice with my Italian friend who studied there and I was overwhelmed by the crowds of people.
I loved visiting Venice but I agree that any badly behaved tourists should be punished ... Hell even Disneyland has strict rules and people do get detained and kicked out ( I know, I have friends who’ve worked in Disneyland)... oh and I do think those cruise ships should be banned
nice one! thanks DW!
Went last summer, and all I thought was "it's amazing, but it's just a theme park now".
Like a big movie set. I was really disappointed. I dont know what I expected
4:20 Land ownership is wealth. Reminds me of reading George Jackson's _Soledad Brother_
Sounds like the city government needs to get their shit together. If tourism is so hot, they should be profiting from it, not have a crumbling, decaying city.
I live in Prague and the historic center is turning into the same thing- theme park populated by short-stay tourists, beautiful on the outside, dead inside. All my friends who used to live in that part of the city have since moved out to other districts. Really sad. Number of tourists has doubled over last ten years. Most locals avoid the historic center during the peak tourist months altogether-crowds are just unbearable. Something should be done to regulate the numbers. May be minimum price for a night that would control the numbers of incoming tourists-including high city tax on income from these non-hotel short -term stays. Plus controlling AirBnB-type accomodation so they have to stick to the minimum price.
Exactly the same conflicts are present in Visby, Gotland in Sweden 🇸🇪 but they have tourists only in a few summer weeks.... :-( too expensive for the local people...
You should do a program about it!!
Same as the Florida Keys..no housing for locals.
Honestly I'm perplexed that they're letting those huge cruise ships inside Venice. It's like driving a BelAZ 75710 haul truck into your city and parking it in front of your flat.
where is their government???
amalia nurlatifah , Government in Italy ??? Government in Italy is about as corrupt as the Mafia . Italy is Europe`s Mexico where crooked police , politicians , and president all sleep together .
Misbehaving.
@@seeadler3233 I found this quite offensive as an Italian , because it is simply not true.
I visited three years ago. Beautiful city, historic property and wonderful visit. I was shocked to see a giant cruise ship, it looked very out of place. We made purchases only from small local shops. Best wishes for a better future.
Great documentary. I guess the problem is not the debt, but corruption (like what happen in most touristic places around the world).
and over capitalism
16:23 the guy loves the Microsoft Word cut & paste. He must be using it very much 😂 😂 😂
Mum and Dad went about 20 years ago, I asked them if they had a good time. Mum said she got shat on by a gang of pigeons. Decided there and then Venice was somewhere i'd never visit
They have pigeon patrols that capture them at night with big nets then kill them. Tourists expect them in St. Mark's Square so the city has allowed them to feed them in the past.
Very interesting! Another wonderful DW Documentary.
Why don’t they just tax the hotels and cruise ship companies per person? Venice has like 20 million tourists a year. A couple euros tax on each visitor and a percent tax on cruise tickets and hotels, and they’d recoup 800mil in no time
Caden Young yeah but nobody would accept that
@@caroselloshow5615 if you look at Bhutan youd know that isnt true. Bhutan charges entry, per day, and many more fees. They save their culture, they reserve the right to kick you from their country, and they make much more money to enrich their people. Someone is always willing to pay.
Caden Young , --Some common sense solutions ( like yours ) don`t work when there are high levels of corruption ---and when the rules you propose are not enforced . Remember the tour guide who said there are 7 illegal guides for every legal guide . The countries that function best are democracies that enforce the laws on the books . Italy is Europe`s Mexico ---highly corrupt.
Carosello Show nobody would accept that?? You’re saying that tourists will avoid Venice because they don’t want to pay a €5 tourism charge? That’s ridiculous.
Excellent video presentation ♥️
Housing prices isn't just tourism. I have seen locations outside the tourist areas and way outside the tourist flow have redicolous prices.
In fact, it is a wonder the locals can even get a building at all.
A Venitian told me the reason he left was the unbearable high taxes he had to pay living in Venice. The gouvernment itself is driving the locals out of their homes.
Hello!
I just wanted to compliment the truthness and accuracy of this documentary and also add a comment: I'm a Venetian myself, and as such, I recognize all of the topics and most of the people showed in the documentary. And I'd like to add that the Airbnb problem is worldwide, and some municipalities like New York and San Francisco have already implemented some legislation. I also must add that I'm shocked to see that the cruisers ship showed is so polluting, I'd imagine that all of the cruisers passing through Venice are the more expensive, luxurious ones: those are actually small cruisers, for a cruiser class ship, and the staff to guest ratio is the highest, about 1 staff per 2 guests, instead of the more economical 1 staff per 3-5 guests ratio that is found on the cheaper huge cruisers ships, it's so that the service quality stays at it's highest, as the ticket price is much higher, it's similar to the ticket economy of airplane operators: low passenger capacity equals to high ticket (small plane vs big plane, and also here there's the staff/luxury ratio to mind) and like with small luxury airplanes, the smaller at time uneconomical and low passenger capacity cruisers are used to get to more particular and smaller ports, like Venice, so I'm amazed that these companies are (for sure) rennovating the interiors, and most-likely upgrading the engines (fiuel cost saving), but don't care to upgrade the exaust compartment... Anyways not as shocking as the immediate need of new resident safeguard legislation, and Airbnb regulation, we too need some resident empowering legislation, like Rent Control in New York and Los Angeles, but something better thought out, as Rent Control may not be a good solution: ua-cam.com/video/oJvTTGOHFkU/v-deo.html
Thanks for reading!
And to you guys at DW Documentary, thank's very very much for another great documentary!!! Keep it up!!!
Venetians protect your city against greed.air bnb.cruises.landlords.investors etc...these activists are amazing!
Who do you think works with them and profits from them? Do you think that aliens from Mars have caused this issue?
Venetians earn money by doing this. those poor losers protesting are too dumb to make money from a simple high ROI business so they're mad.
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+Kaziklu Bey Idiot. Venetians Never receive any money. It all goes to cruise ship companies.
1:30 How is the resistance movement now after having no tourist for a year?
Is the city even getting better now?
I'm sure it is much more authentic now