Unboxing Chibson Les Paul Greeny Moore - Chinese Copy first play
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My second Chibson is Greeny Moore a tribute copy to the collectors choice NO.1 guitar. However this was far far sub-par and as I always warn you had major issues like most Chinese counterfeits!
Enjoy!!!!!
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Just to clarify - My intro is a gag, a joke. My channel is not monetised and far from commercial costs me personally to make. I could not reply to the previous comment and it got deleted trying. However I do not consider my intro as commercial infringement of Dreamworks copyright. It's a joke that I thought any person would understand. Chill out buddy! :o)
dream works would probably disagree...avoid trouble friend, you should get in thouch with them.
I thought it was superb.
it is a parody of dreamworks and therefore protected under the fair use doctrine. Just to straighten that out so people can pay attention to the video
Update - my channel is now monetized to help me keep it running and Dreamworks folks have been in touch and they love this intro too. So although I've since made another, this one may be making future appearances. :
good on you mate, the intro made me laugh
I have bought a few of these through TradeTang. The first two came in really decent shape. Mahogany bodies were structurally sound. Necks were straight, frets not perfect, but acceptable. I build and work on guitars as a hobby, so not too much for me to get them set up for really good playability and tone. The tuners were crap so those went. Replaced the nut, the bridge, and tail piece. Dropped in a set of WCR American Steele pups in one and WCR Godwoods in the other, along with upgraded pots and caps. Did an overall setup, added new strings too. As a dealer, I buy at wholesale prices, so after all is said and done, I have guitars that sound as good as my original Standard and Custom Les Pauls for about $500 each. Now the third guitar that came in was a piece of poo. Fortunately, trading through TradeTang, I was able to recoup all but $50 and keep the product. Cheaper than paying $100 to send it back. The guitar came with a nice clone Gibson case so +1 there, and I was able to mock up the guitar and sell it as a wall display to one of the clubs here in Austin for $300. Two out of three not too bad. Buying Chinese can work out OK, but if you don't have knowledge about or experience in setting up, adjusting, or repairing guitars, it may cost you more than you will like.
I just got my first Chibson LP delivered today from GM. I was surprised it was Perfect no dings or scratches/cracks etc. It was ordered Nov 6th and today is Nov 27th not bad. Like you said these are replica guitars and you have to be prepared to play with them setup wise and mods etc. I think a 50's "Chele" will be my next purchase it's fun. All the Best to you and your family...Merry Christmas!!!!!!!
Just bought the "Steve Jones" model from China.
They are getting better and better.
Flawless finish, absolutely beautiful, wax potted pickups, lovely nut, perfect binding.
Sounds amazing.
Can't fault it.
Gary Moore model next!!
I love the solo near the end of your video! Impressive!
Good Les pauls are different from other guitar builds because they have a shorter scale length, (nut to bridge string length) makes strings easier to bend because they dont have to be wound as tight to acheive tuning.. They also have a more extreme angle from nut to tuner and saddle to bridge end which forces the string pressure downward into the body of the guitar instead of drawing the string tight between almost level points between the tuner and bridge end which makes them sustain much longer. This can make any player acheive better results. Les pauls are addictive.
love your demos! this one sounds pretty decent!
+DURP DURPINSON Thank you very much buddy :-)
Excellent review; thanks for uploading this mate!
I've got a black gibson les paul studio and still wouldnt mind getting one of these replicas, maybe in a nice purple or a white to compliment the black one, oh and a Steve vai Chibanez would be cool too
For those wondering if I work for Gibson, I can confirm that I do not. However I'm delighted that they are interested in what I do:
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***** Hey buddy, I will gladly answer to Mike :o)
The most original UA-cam channel I´ve seen in a while
Thank you very much :o)
hey man great playing, what do you do with the guitars you buy?
Sends chills up and down my spine when I hear the horror stories about these knock-off Chibs. That one looks and sounds pretty darn good in your hands though. Great Vid. by the way!
I got to touch Gary's Les Paul in 85. We opened for Robin Trower in Hesperia CA. Gary was playing in LA and met Robin for pints there. Needless to say I was shittin kittens. I got to see and yes hold the beast. I also got to borrow one of Robin's white Marshall tops to add to my rig. He was plenty loud and I needed some grown up help for my JCM 800. I smelled like a bar and felt like it weighed a ton. I have never washed my left hand since... HA...
Awesome mate. 👍😁
Thank you buddy, so pleased that you liked it and found it useful. :o)
Great review mate, thanks for uploading this.
Really appreciated
Thank you :o)
It seems like its one of the best sounding chibson/pr less right out of the box, am I right? Im pretty impressed how well set up it arrived (for a chibson).
i got one of these green/moore replicas from china , they were very good ..i got the slimmer 60 style neck and i changed out the pickups for some hand wounds replicating the greenie mod and wiring harness , a VERY decent guitar with great tone and sustain
Hey sceptic, Are you using the same cable that came with the guitar ? I have one of these chibsons and I am playing on a Marshall MG15CFR amp. The level of noise when I go to the overdrive channel sucks. I am currently think of bringing down a monster cable to solve the issue and at the same times replace the strings and the pickups with dunlop and EMGs respectively. Would that solve my problem ?
dude ur introduction of your video is so AWESOME!!!
Ta! :o) lol
I'm interested in an archtop jazz guitar like a chonny smith, r5, chooper400, Es 175, birdland. Would it be possible to obtain a D' Angerico XL 1?
Hi. First of all, congratulations and thank you for your videos :) I'm looking to buy some chinese guitars for my own experiments. Is the nut on this one glued in the wrong place (I've just seen photos in the end of the video, and it seemed to me it is), or it's also because of the break between the neck itself and the fingerboard?
P.S. Outtakes in the end are awesome :)
Good video fella!I'm glad I've found your channel,excellent and informative videos you've got there!
Overall not bad, you going to go for the Peter Green mod or just leave it standard?
I noticed the neck pickup isnt reversed as on the original. does it have the out of phase tone in the middle position? I didnt hear it demonstrated. I think that's what the Greenie-Moore guitar is really about. Great vids! Cheers
Where did you buy that guitar ? In my opinion that looks and sounds fantastic !
Dude that's actually good!!! May i know where did you got this? :)
Pretty awesome melody towards the end of the video. I like the minor mood of it.
Hey man, if you were to make a direct comparison between this and its authentic counterpart, where are the major concerns? Looking at the Seller's Jim Root Telecaster, and the Silverburst Les Paul Custom, and my trigger finger is getting anxious. Are they using similar materials, etc.?
So where can you buy one? I have been looking to pick up a gibs for some more blues playing .. Seems like these is a decent starter??
Ha! I love these videos! You really never know what you will get in the mail from China! Thanks for these videos and keep up the awesome work! :)
Do you not have the polarity changed on the neck pup like the actual guitar?
How many tracks did you use and which guitars did you play? May I ask what software are you using o record with?
Aside from quality control issues on both sides, how does this guitar compare to an epiphone? just interested :)
Hi, have you checked the serial numbers on the Chinese copies, do they correspond to an original guitar? Would you say these Chinese copies will affect the second hand guitar market, trust issues? Cheers
don´t know if i´m mad, but it souds almost the same as my epiphone les paul 100
(i played the same chords at the same time with this video, comparing the sounds)
Love that intro. It actually made me laugh out loud.
Cheers buddy. More videos to follow very soon but I will wait to get some action from the seller for the breakage before I do any mods. I will show the guitar in much more detail in the next video. Any requests? :o)
I just subbed, amazing quality videos, nice info, and oh my goodness that case is amazing, so is the guitar.
Thank you mate, that's very kind. It was the tribute I did for Gary Moore when I went to visit his grave. I felt it was somehow appropriate to use as the track for the photos for this guitar. Soooooo glad you liked it. It was a warts and all one take on each guitar - I am way too busy [and lazy] to plan solos. :o)
Hey Sceptic, can you say where I guy can buy a replacement bridge for a chibson les paul that's metric and would drop right into the original bridge mount holes? Thanks for any help you can provide.
where did you buy this guitar from?
i am new to the hole chibson thing
nice background job on the intro man , very cool :D
thank you :-)
watching this one really far down the time scale, nice sound but boy oh boy, and you obviously know how far off the Greeny Moore this actually is in colouring.. Seen many of your tests so i am surprised you are (in this vid) so impressed, yes it is nice but there are so many out there, How is it now ? do you still have it and is it still playable or dd the neck go?
@ barchetta amp, so if I put the same pickups in different platforms they will all sound the same? So humbuckers in a strat sound like a les paul? Single coils in a les paul sounds like a strat? Spare me the answer.
Nice vid. thanx! about how much do these puppies go for?
Beautiful Gibson Les Paul replica mate!👍🏼 Can you send me the link as to where you bought them? Thanks.🙏
I really like the knot in the back!
Greetings fella!!
Just to change the subject slightly...have bought a 'Tiger' PRS same as yours today from Wholesale Guitar Zhang thru Aliexpress..will obviously mod it and was wondering where you obtained the Entwhistle Dark Star Zebra pups?..been around the net and the only place I can find them is from China.did you get yours in the UK?...PS..just found your vids and I love 'em !!
HI, Where did you buy the guitar from?
Buying Chibsons is like, playing Russian Roulette with 2 bullets inside..
Hey Man
I got some serious issues of communication with them to get the right price, when I tried to buy one, it didn't work. did you buy them via visa or paypal ? which is your vendor ?
very nice guitar ..a couple of questions: i thought all the gary moore/green guitars were aged/worn....this one looks new...is this a custom order?....is there any trouble with customs in the uk about importing these g....n logo guitars?....i,m in sweden and about to order my firstand any info is good...i agree with you about making an own logo...my surname is simpson so if i was artistic it could make agood g...n logo...anyway thanks for all your helpful vids and info
Well, I have to say that thanks to your vids about Chinese knock offs, I certainly took my time and became much better informed than I was, especially regarding things like microphonic pickups and crummy pots.... I reckoned they might be dodgy...
Anyways, I ended up ordering a '59 LP Standard and used some of your critiques and suggestions when dealing with the seller.. bottom line was that I received a pretty good guitar, one piece neck, one piece body, it's bloody heavy, whatever it is...) and potted pickups... Action was low and very light, too light for me, so will fix that, but intonation and neck were good and sounds fine, even out of the box with those strings... ugh... Another tip I got was to lemon oil the dickens out of the rosewood neck, and clean and clean again, it really helps the playability..
Can I ask which of the guitars you ordered is your preferred one? You were quite glowing on a PRS you had ordered..
Cheers, mate!
I agree, the headstock is a bit small. The ears aren't as prominent as a real Gibson, but overall sounds amazing.
I'm going to buy a headphone pocket amp soon, does anyone here have any experience with them? If so which one would be good for playing oldschool rock aka aerosmith, van halen, stuff like that?
Thanks man,and hey,an honest answer is always the best answer :D
Wow! Were did you buy this tradetang? Wish seller? Thanks
Hi. Great review but what about the classic sound that was produced by the reversed pickup?
unwrapping a new guitar is the most fun you can have with your clothes on...just got my new ltd ec 401 fm and she's a beauty
Am i correct i think i saw that the neck pickup is not parallel to the strings its at an odd angle. which will affect your sound
Could you show some pictures of the guitar close up. I'm looking at getting a Les Paul and it seems these counterfeits are getting better an better. Is the bridge like the Epiphone or Gibsons? I will have to stay away from eBay and buy it from GC to avoid getting a fake.
Will try to get around to it as I have some work to do on it soon. :o)
Yes always buy with warrantee from your local store! :o)
Interesting... wish you would indicate where you sourced these and an approximate price. Is it worth it when you end up changing quite a few items.??
michael b I never encourage people to buy them as they are too expensive to get them how you would like them to play. May as well buy a studio. :o)
Great video and cheers. That does not sound like my real Gibson les paul. Kinda like comparing a real stratavarius violin to a chibson copy. I would never buy a copy because there is only One Les Paul company for me in my America. How much did this cost you plus shipping , if I can ask? Thank you from AMerica. RH DSD
$250 plus £40 import tax buddy. I think we should be glad it doesn't sound like your real GLP otherwise there would be some serious cause for Gibson to worry :o)
So is the price of the Chibsons so much less as to justify the cost of the repairs and upgrades over the Epiphone? I ask because I own 3 Epiphones..a '96 Goldtop, a '06 Birdseye Maple that I have replaced the p/u's with Seymore Duncans, and a '98 Flying Vee 68 reissue all super sounding and playing guitars. Thanks.
hi friend, may be you can help me, i have this doubt the seller send already the guitar but thats 15 days ago thats normal?? in the page says is in transit but im a little bit worried
When the bell is removed, does it need an allen key or actual nut wrench? Chinese copies seldom use the Gibson truss rods, and it's usually a sure 'tell', but they are getting closer all the time.
Allen Key - All Chibsons do mate. I have it direct from them that they cannot yet get the Nut wrench truss parts. Not economic for them to do it just for one brand of guitar.
Chinaguitarsceptic Thanks. I thought as much. I have two, LP and Explorer,and both use an Allen key, and came with all Epi hardware and electronics.
Great video!!!! I'm interested in buying one of these chibsons so can you send me a link of the website you bought it (can you also tell me if it's woth buying and the problems a chibson may have?)
this guitar looks great. were can i get them?
Thanks buddy that's really kind of you :o)
I'll have to agree. I never had much of an interest in PRS until a friend of mine sold me a SE model for 200. It simply never goes out of tune and the stock pickups are surprisingly great. It's become one of my go to guitars and I don't have to worry about it getting nicked up or banged around.It's just a solid gigging guitar. I enjoy your videos even though I really am not much of a fan of the china fakes. I did do some builds out of the china kits and they are coming out quite nice
Hey man, very interesting stuff.
Say, I'm actually considering ordering one myself, but I'm hearing some stuff about it that's kinda keeping me away from getting me one of these... so I was wondering if you could answer some questions, you don't mind...
1. Is the hardware so imperfect that it can't really reach 'perfection'? That was actually a terrible way to word it... What I wanna know is, after some thorough set-ups, can the intonations be perfect, no howling/feedback/static/etc, and whatnot
2. I've been hearing from a few people that, upon opening the box, the guitar smells of some pungent chemical that was used for the finish, and it does not go away. Is that true to any extent?
Cheers
Hey bud,
1. No most of the hardware can be set up but it is poor quality and doubt it will last many years.
2. None of mine have but I have heard the same about those with cases. It may be that they are using cow gum to stick the lining in on some?
Cheers :o)
How do you buy it....?? Give me a link or anything... I want to buy it for myself too.. Help me.
How long did it take from the order to getting to you take, if I may ask?
ChinaGuitarSkeptic: 看到你的录像觉得很有趣！有个小问题想请教你一下：就是你的这些中国来的吉他到底是在哪里买的呢？谢谢！
+Jim . Hargett 我购买的全球速卖通，但是我不推荐任何卖家。我祝你好运在你的搜索，并感谢您看我的信道和享受。所有最优秀的， CGS
Yes and yes buddy - It's already growing on me. Looks beautiful but I need to work out if that split is fatal or not. The body shape is actually spot on the top radius overlaid on the real thing is perfect and no longer has that straight section. mighty impressed with this one. Just need to see how the seller responds to the damaged goods report. Take care buddy :o)
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gibson SGj is only 499 and comes with zebra 61s and fireburst finish.cant go wrong.
Much better choice than any Chinese copy mate - couldn't agree more. Please remember I am just experimenting and reporting on these. They are fine little projects to work on but that's it :o) Never buy instead of but perhaps as a gigging backup to that collectors you would never gig.
It would be nice to know what website and how much it cost ?
I'm considering purchasing one like that. Can you tell me if the stud spacing for the bridge and tailpiece are epiphone spacing or something different?
I am told that its the same as epi metric but check out the CGS forum and someone will be able to help cgs.x10.mx Cheers! :o)
Don’t know about electrics but you can’t go wrong with a Taylor Accoustic 👌
hi i live in india. can u tell a website to get one of these and what if i buy one these and put original gubson tuners on them?
It would be nice if you checked the neck joint under the neck pickup, and also a good close up photo of the control cavity. This is where they succeed or fail in quality.
Hey friend I have done just that in other videos. I wish I could remember which for you but it's such a long time ago. You are totally correct though and as I recall the cavities and neck joint are almost always poor sometimes too the point of failure. I've had many horror stories of necks separating!
@@Chinaguitarsceptic Its too bad. I've seen some Chinese guitars on UA-cam that were surprisingly very close to real Gibsons, they ARE capable of making stellar guitars. Have you ever tried having one of their factories actually MAKE a guitar to your specifications? You could specify long tenon neck joint, no graphite black paint slathered in the control cavity, no plastic wiring. I have a Chinese archtop from about ten years ago that is completely faultless quality, as good as any of the Epiphone Korean archtops were.
how much does it cost and where to buy it??
I'd like to buy one
No Peter Green licks? I was waiting for that out of phase tone to sound horrid on the chibson.
+Darren Eddings It wasn't there until I did the PG mod in a much later video. It sounds pretty OK now. :-)
Yeah, I remember Greeny Moore. He sang, I still have the greens for you, a song about vegetables.
Lol
May I can ask if the neck of this guitars is any good? I'm thinking about buying one as a project,but I never even tried a "fret job" before and I don't want to ruin a guitar while trying.
Hello, How would you rate the Chibson's against an Epiphone ...same model?
Thanks.
WOW that's a lot a questions @o) LOL
So I use Jammer Pro 9 to turn chord progressions into backing tracks. I use internet software to convert those into WAV files with nice sound canvas. This track was then 2 clean guitars for rythmn tracks panned hard left and right then two lead guitars panned 75% L & R. All guitar parts were recorded with Maggie the blue PRless and used TH2 plugins in cubase LE [which came free with my Zoom R16]. All mixed using the zoom as a control surface....
Where did you get the gt? I'm very interested in checking out a few. Thank in advance!
I love the colour....shame about the neck / nut.
Which seller did it come from ?
I know! Thanks for the patience - it's been quite a wait what with Lily fiasco huh? Cheers for sticking around and supporting mate. :o)
Fretboard lifting is a drag all the other bits are adjustments or just stuff you can ignore
I agree but you get what you pay for
Hi there. First of I love the videos and the guitars. Im gonna be buying a les paul project guitar and wanted to ask if you ever had any trouble with customs? I was talking to the seller and they said it would be declared gift and value at $60. Really dont know what to make of it could you shed some light on it for me? Im in the uk, Belfast to be more precise. Thank you for your time. Robin
They always put gift or low value on the package but customs ignore that and go on the weight and postage cost from China to work out value and hence VAT. My VAT charges have always worked out higher than 20% VAT but it has not been worth following up. :o)
what site are you buying these guitars from? I tried to find one and they all have some other name on them.
The part I'm most looking forward to when receiving my chibson '59 is the brown case... which is pretty sad really if you think about it. let's hope it arrives in one piece and I can make it sound good with the very limited skills I have in guitar modification.
Whats with the neck pickup mount on these guitars they all angle thew pickup down at the heel not that it matters but it's quite accute..
How did you get a case with USA stamped on it? Cant even get them in America these days bc there not made there
Nope they are made in ... you guessed it ... China!
Hi,
Watching your video I was surprised to hear you mention your Carlsbro GLX85 amp. You don't hear Carlsbro mentioned much- never in the USA. I had a GLX30 imported to me in the USA back in 1999. I still have it!. Bill Nelson-BeBop Delouxe got me into Carlsbro. I found a real old (early 70s vintage) 100TC tube head laying around in a local repair shop back in 1977 and still have that one too. It's a great amp! I also have a Chibson LP and am waiting on a Chibson ES-355 to be finished; I have a few vids on my Chibson on UA-cam (Geryhatrix, Chibson, Fibson keywords).
Yeah I love the Carlsbro bud it's a really versatile amp. :o) Take care and I will check out your channel buddy :o)
I just did a rough video of a new Chibson ES-355 style guitar and used the old Carlsbro 100CT head and a 2x12 Hiwatt style custom made cabinet. No effects. Just guitar anmd amp. It's not on YT yet. maybe later today.
Can you make a video response to this? Does it need to have an expensive guitar if your just a regular guitar player or even with an amateur band that only play cover.
yo where did you buy this? i own a 2005 gibson les paul std. i want to experience this for myself.
Once I get to work on her I already have a moded neck pup to go in. Been holding off in case its better to go in the replacement. :o)