sure but still limited compared to real videophils ;)..this is just above average joe level nothing more. the stuff he knows is just basic stuff that anyone can read from on the internet..but there is much more advanced parameters that affects an image.
I have zero regrets getting my XBR75Z9D, as mentioned looking forward to Dolby Vision, and your reviews turned me on to the OPPO 203, love that too, great combination. Your reviews are the best, most professional and informative, and fun.........
This is the best TV reviewer on UA-cam. This guy is always on the ball. But I'm holding off from buying a oled TV till manufacturers sort out screen burn in aka image retention.
I was in the same boat as you holding off from buying an OLED tv. So I have an OLED tv for half year now and definitely love it. I'll never ever want a (Q)LED tv. OLED tv is also so much nicer, the richer colors and infinite blacks and even more lovely in dark rooms. I haven't had image retention but that's because I avoid tv channels with their stupidly bright logo's. We only watch Netflix, YT, movies from HDD and tv channels that have no bright logo's.
I used to be a video engineer in the states as well as a colourist. I can agree with virtually every single aspect of his technical review, from SMPTE spec, scaling, RGB gamma, burn-in from CRTs and Plasmas, lag, banding, etc. He is obviously quite knowledgeable on this subject and well worth your time to get his review on new products.
For the people complaining that the image in this video is dim, Mr Theo just pointed out that he used a 6400 ISO that helped show the near blacks images. We're not judging the TV picture quality from a UA-cam video that even in 4k does not compare to real life. The camera is not the human eye and the phone/pc/laptop screen is not the tv in front of you, don't be dumb. In Contrast with the Dimmer Image we should Highlight the Brilliant information we get in every video from this useful channel (fully pun intended) 😉 Thanks! #learnedalotoftvtech
Prior to my mothers knee replacement I advised her on getting the KD-65A1 for her bedroom to enjoy some leisure time without the need to leave the bed and to watch TV on an uncomfortable sofa - We're still marveled at it compared to her other TV or mine so when they started dropping prices like mad starting this week I ordered myself the bigger KD-77A1 to replace my, still very nice, KD-75S9005B lacking all the neat stuff like OLED and HDR.
Paid 5k for a 75 inch Sony 940 d and I cant get Dolby vision cause I didn't get the near 10k z series . How nice. Thanks Sony. Great information as always Vincent. Ty
Samsung is no OLED is led no white balance pixel color is distorson go to sony Z9 OR BRVIA XE9005 LED is Britons win now led or AE1 win black OLED BEST OFF BEST Sony
I bought 55" version today online. It's going Tobe delivered day after tomorrow . Thing is I got it for very cheap price, 1100$ in India. Is it a wise decision purchasing the TV or should I cancel my order. Here in India price of Oled tv starts at 2000$ .
I enjoyed this very much. The examples you show us and your clear explanation adds a lot of usable knowledge to us viewers. With this knowledge we can finally look at a movie the way we like, as we now know what named function does what and we can adjust it to our own taste. Thank you for that, highly appreciated. I own this tv and the whole thing is out of this world. Picture/sound/looks, everything is truly a piece of art and mindblowing. People complaining about techspecs: this TV is so bright it hurt my eyes on max settings. These small % of missing colors people are not even able to see. There is no match for the stunning quality of this A1, not even LG with the same panel. I spend a whole day comparing both. Sony upscaling is way better and the Dolby vision blacks are black unlike LG's greytinted Dolby vision. Yamaha a3070 + Klipsch speakers + Sony A1 65"= Dolby atmos setup that outperforms any cinema easily. M2C.
Hello Vincent. Great video👍 Would you say 4k Oleds have caught up to plasmas in terms of motion blur? I have an old Pioneer plasma and I am reluctant to upgrade because when I visit friends and watch sports on their expensive LCDs, I find them comically insufferable and no combination of settings can ever fix it.
Ample17 I had issue with Sony z9D, one call to sony was enough to get it replaced. I had an issue with Lg 65e6p, 3 months no resolution, i had to escalate with bbb twitter media to get this moving with lg but still no resolution, ymmv u may get lucky.. never an lg ever again.. just my 2 cents
SkidRow1983 I see your point. It's my first LG so i will give them a chance but if something like what happend to you happened to me i too would not buy this brand again. I totally understand why you are pissed of.
We are finally blessed with TVs that can do perfect black and people want to complain about brightness. If you want that bright, harsh, annoying image, keep your junk LCD. Oh, sorry... QLED. The junk is called 'QLED' now.
HeavyMetalSonicRM Samsung is no OLED is led no white balance pixel color is distorson go to sony Z9 OR BRVIA XE9005 LED is Britons win now led or AE1 win black OLED BEST OFF BEST Sony
Unfortunately good LCD TV's are much better at HDR than OLEDs and that's a deal breaker. Obviously OLED is a better technology but it's just not there yet. Once it does catch up and we get bright RGB OLEDs it's lights out for LCD.
HeavyMetalSonicRM bullshit the people sale no won't you to see the limited brightness unlimited temperature pixel so screen no burn no peixl miilt bicoz that is more black more black but is was distortion color Bern in your screen and you say I pay so much and get the tv a is no good for HDR bullshit no good brightness end you pay double ☹️
Wonderful video. The best channel on youtube for me since I want to buy a real good new tv. Are the things you speak about for the 77 inch the same for the 65 inch version? And something else will Iphone work well with android tv? this because I have an Iphone but realy love the A1E. Hoping for some good reactions and keep up the good work!
What about using the 1080p/120hz mode? Input lag drops to 21.4ms. Perfect for using a HTPC gaming machine as they can hit 60fps plus. Consoles can barely go above 30.
My (almost) 10 year old Pioneer Kuro has never suffered any screen burn or retention and has been left on SKY Sports channels with bright static images.
Thank you Sir, lovely job again wasn’t that interested in the Tv but it great hearing your opinion on it and OLED in general. A special thanks for covering the subject on Image Retention and Burnin!
I have a humble Panasonic 65 inch ST50 plasma and although I get image retention for a few seconds I have never had any burn in. And this TV has been used by the kids to watch "Pop" which has a massive white logo on the top left.
theprince08853 I have the 2011 ST30 & haven't had any issue with burn in either. I have played many games, watched letterbox movies & even use it as a PC monitor.
HDTVTest Vincent when is sonys premium lcd led Tvs going to get the Dolby Vision Update? Have you heard any New News?? Thanks Really enjoy your videos!!
So the motion resolution is 300 with no motion flow..is that test done in 50..60 hz? If so when watching a 24 hz movie would the resolution be less than 300??
Thank you for the in-depth review. Its nice to see someone who understands the nuance in the platforms. DO you know if DolbyVision will be under exclusive contract with Sony, or will this be available in LG OLED platforms as well?
I contacted sony about the dolby vision update on the A!E and they will roll it out or for all of them new bought or already with cosumers in Janury 2018 they say.
Please, could you confirm when is going to be updated built-in youtube app to support HDR?? Maybe is not an app update and it is necessary a whole firmware update to support Vp9 profile 2 (x1 extreme processors it supposed to support it). It’s really weird that entry model xe70 supports youtube HDR and all android models don’t...I would really appreciate this information. Thanks!
Hi Vincent! I love your videos but I have a question.? I have a samsung tv and others too when I press info for the tv it says 2160/24p. the picture is not 24p...24 is the htz nor is it fps so can you explain it . thank you !
After playing with the dim HDR Game Mode on the LG C7 Which tone maps on a 10,000 not scale, I feel like Sony’s method to maintain luminance may be an overall better method. Like you mentioned the amount of time highlight detail hits over 1,000 nits is so small compared to the rest of overall image, it doesn’t seem worth the sacrifice of luminance on the LG. HDR Standard Mode seems fine, but the current HDR Game Mode needs work...maybe offer an HDR Game Bright preset for those willing to sacrifice super peak highlight detail to maintain overall brightness. It makes me wish I had chosen the A1E over the C7, despite the lower price and better input lag.
Would the A1 audio work in unison with a Sound Bar? Is there a way to use the acoustic surface audio along with a Sound Bar and still get the intended effect you spoke of with being able to pinpoint who is speaking on screen like you mentioned with the newscasters? Thanks
Please don't ever mix two sound solutions. It's not meant to be done. Perhaps look into adding a separate subwoofer to your A1E if you want more depth of sound. IIRC you can add a wireless sub.
You spent some time on screen burn. Would it be possible to have software that creates black rectangles that block static logos? All the news channels cover the screen with obnoxious graphics that I wish I cut from the image.
So Ive had an LG B6 OLED for a year now. Its been on just about every day all day, easily 10 hours a day. The picture still blows me away. There is no screen burn in just minor image retention that fades very quickly and only noticeable on certain shades. I did discover recently on a 5% gray screen there is vertically banding only you never notice it while playing games or watching Netflix. Ive never noticed until I was told how to find it. HDR Game Mode is too dark but I dont care I just use HDR Bright. The colors and motion handling could be slightly better. OLEDs are not perfect but no technology, brand, or model is. A majority of the negative stuff I read or hear online about OLED has not matched my experience. I doubt anyone even gets true burn in. More like stubborn image retention because they watched CNN for 3 months straight. Ive had the experience on my 2013 Panasonic plasma. Took a few weeks to get rid of a logo which many might of thought was burn in but it was stubborn image retention. It went away. If your going to watch Fox News every day or play the same game every day and never change your media then OLED is not for you. Youll get stubborn image retention and what is the use of fixing it because youll just get it right back. That is the dilemma. It took a week to get rid of that IR of the CNN logo but now you want to watch CNN still lol.
Today 1/16/2018 released DV firmware update. Confirmed by Sony support, DV enabled for Sony's "Netflix or Amazon" android app's ONLY. DV is NOT supported via HDMI. Sony support stated no future info or details.
Hrm...just a bit ago he was saying that the 2017 LG OLEDs with the Technicolor firmware were holding their own. This time he seemed to indicate the Sony is better. Oh well, I'm committed now...
And I just bought a LG B7 from Crampton and Moore Leeds Vincent. If there happens to be any issues with it maybe they will take it back and I could instead get the 55A1E. I hope the LGs motion is good though??? I didn't get the Sony because it's way too expensive.
On the topic of colour uniformity, I purchased a 55” LG C7 OLED, so the smallest. It had bad uniformity that actually affected the content such as football (soccer) where the field looked different one side to the other. So although larger screens are generally more prone to such issues the smaller screens are not without issue. I returned the tv and won’t be buying an LG tv again. My next tv will likely be a Sony. Not a £20k one though!
Marion Knight In my opinion LG should not put out such a product if it has known major faults. Have they confirmed this issue themselves? I don’t care how deep the blacks are if the other colours are different one side of the screen to the other. Not a cheap TV either.
hdtvtest. i noticed on say my lg c7 the yellowish tint comes from setting the tv on WARM 2 in the white balance. I noticed pure whites say in the tv guide or things of that nature appear yellowish when engaged. putting it on warm 1 seems to help
Vertical banding probably resulting in Dirty Screen Effect on a € 20.000 TV? How is this top notch and even worth considering over a ZD9 or KS95 which come very close on SDR picture quality and probably surpass the A1 OLED in HDR content!
Abubakar Mahmud. Hi there! Unfortunately there's not Oled below 55 inch, only 55, 65 and 77 inches to date are available. Below that you would go with LED, and if it's Sony you want, like XE90 in europe or X900E in the US which is Fald(full array local dimming) and comes from 49". Or XE80 X800E from 43". But be aware that instead of the X1 extreme chip which comes with high end models like the ZD9 and the A1 oled, they comes with the X1-4K hdr processor and the 4K X Reality pro. At the end almost all 2017 tv's are a nice piece of technology with beautiful image. Hope was useful.
way to much in todays market and with an Pixel pr inch of relative 57ppi, you also gotta wonder where the goldilok-zone are for PPI fullfillment hence such an huge canvas.. sure you just have to move back then it will be ideally. but on the other hand, above formfactor will not take long before 8k will be the standard on those dimensions as 57PPI is relative in todays Tvtech. fx 55 OLED carries 81PPI, and 65' 68PPI and 77' operates with 57Pixel pr inch so in regards to 55inch OLED you got a -30% less Pixel fullfillment, with the same amount of ligh emitting diodes..sure it still will look incredible, and partically if you get fare enough away, but 20k GPB in todays market.. thats a lot, for a panel identical to its 55inch sibling carrying same innerspec just in smaller formfactor costing under 1/10 atm. Anyway topnoth vid+1 // thx
Well I will go with the X930e for the Following Reasons: Awesome HDR Peak Brightness No Retention / Screen Burning Problems Like the OLEDs ( Even in LGs 2017 Models these problem persists ) It is an OLED Draw Back. Great Local Dimming with Sony Slim BackLight+ , much better than Samsungs Qled ( like the Q7F) Better Motion Handling / Less Image Flicker Compared to Samsung. Much Better build quality compared to Samsung Flagships Quantum.Dot ? Oh that is an Old technology that Sony Introduced in 2013 in their Triluminos displays that Samsung adpoted in 2016 and LG in Nano Crystals. 120hz Input for 1080p (Gaming Enthusiasts) Overall it is a great tv set and well arounded in every area from. Local Dimming , HDR Performance , Build Quality , Motion Handling, Contrast and Brightness.
Mr. Ihab Issa I own the 65 X930E as well. Its a awesome set..HDR is incredible. Black levels are excellent. I have a few vids posted on my channel if you wanna check em out..Good luck on your tv quest
Mr. Ihab Issa Yea i got. Mines when it was 2500 but I was still under the 30 days price guarantee so I got 500 dollars back. That's a bargain for what this set can do.
Thru out most your video there is a "L" shaped scratch at horizontal middle about 20% down from vertical top of display. As in black background at 20 seconds into video. Is that sizable scratch from your camera? From the A1e? The "L" shape has no color.
Releasing an advertised feature after almost a year is not something that Sony should proud of it and makes me wonder about the support of the TV in the future. I've read horror stories about Android TV so you need to be really brave to buy this 77A1 and hope that you don't need to send it it back due some kinky Android problem
Adam Majorcsik Both of my Android Sony’s have been working well. Updates are far in between but luckily when they do update it doesn’t break another feature requiring a long lead time for a fix ect.
vGREENARROWv not what I really want but unless I suddenly win the lottery and can afford the 100” Z9D my options appear to be limited. I might hold off since there is a rumor that Samsung is going to bring back a FALD LED. Hopefully it won’t be curved.
Nithin Muktesh i own a1 65 for the last 10 months...believe me this is the best tv for any bright rooms, for dark rooms, for any rooms...dont compare them with lcds...oled is a different - superior - technology...now comparing sony with lg oleds, i would say that sony is better regarding colours and video processing...lgs 2018 i think that they pick more brightness...they have less aggressive abl algorithm, which means more bright pictures.in the end i think that sony a1 remains best oled tv...with lge8 following (also a fantastic tv...)
Did i hear Mr Teoh correctly.. from 8:30 'Being a self-emissive display if you display a static logo for too long then naturally it will burn'..? Are plasma tv's not self emitting displays? My kuro never suffers from retention never mind burn. I had a Panasonic VT65B and that did suffer from image retention.. Poor.. This means OLED panels are no good at all for gaming.. Shame.
All the fear about image retention in 2017 OLEDs are overblown. I've gamed on my A1E for hours upon hours at a time, no image retention to speak of yet.
I also have a 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite Plasma TV for 8 years, using both Gaming / Movies with ZERO BURN in.. The TV still performs excellent with solid rich deep blacks with true motion traction and no video noise. I cant believe I paid 5K for a 1080i plasma TV in 2009, but like my 99 ford explorer; they just don't make them like that anymore.... The only downfall is heavy as 4 tons of bricks and has a huge bezel; if you can distinguish it when the tv is on. Thats how hyper black the blacks are in this tv.
i got the LG B7 last week and sadly got a "piss" poor panel. i got fkn yellow tint on the left side (4cm bar from top to bottom) and a larger yet less visible area in the middle, which actually introduces skin tone in a movie with black and white scenes(Kill-Bill the Brides wedding). Im quite disappointed with the quality control of LG in case there is any.
ever heard of the term "panel lottery"? no? thats what i thought. dont talk shit if you have no clue about anything related to OLED technologie. now piss off dumbshit
Best tv reviewer on UA-cam.
Agree
sure but still limited compared to real videophils ;)..this is just above average joe level nothing more.
the stuff he knows is just basic stuff that anyone can read from on the internet..but there is much more advanced parameters that affects an image.
Patrik Gårdewall he’s a professional calibrater....he knows more than 99% of reviewers on here.
@@thebossnocompetition8757
Videophils.......??
You mean stupid Trendies
I have zero regrets getting my XBR75Z9D, as mentioned looking forward to Dolby Vision, and your reviews turned me on to the OPPO 203, love that too, great combination. Your reviews are the best, most professional and informative, and fun.........
This is the best TV reviewer on UA-cam. This guy is always on the ball. But I'm holding off from buying a oled TV till manufacturers sort out screen burn in aka image retention.
You're holding off for nothing then. its almost impossible to develop burn in on this years sets unless you treat your TV like complete crap
Never gonna happen
I was in the same boat as you holding off from buying an OLED tv. So I have an OLED tv for half year now and definitely love it. I'll never ever want a (Q)LED tv. OLED tv is also so much nicer, the richer colors and infinite blacks and even more lovely in dark rooms. I haven't had image retention but that's because I avoid tv channels with their stupidly bright logo's. We only watch Netflix, YT, movies from HDD and tv channels that have no bright logo's.
@@browsing8866 CRT & plasma tv has burn in, that doesn't stop ppl from buying. Its almost difficult unless you purposely want to cause it.
Keep up the good work. By far the best tv reviewer. You know what your talking about and not biased. Thank you
I'm so keen for this Dolby Vision update. Can't wait!
I used to be a video engineer in the states as well as a colourist. I can agree with virtually every single aspect of his technical review, from SMPTE spec, scaling, RGB gamma, burn-in from CRTs and Plasmas, lag, banding, etc. He is obviously quite knowledgeable on this subject and well worth your time to get his review on new products.
For the people complaining that the image in this video is dim, Mr Theo just pointed out that he used a 6400 ISO that helped show the near blacks images.
We're not judging the TV picture quality from a UA-cam video that even in 4k does not compare to real life. The camera is not the human eye and the phone/pc/laptop screen is not the tv in front of you, don't be dumb.
In Contrast with the Dimmer Image we should Highlight the Brilliant information we get in every video from this useful channel (fully pun intended) 😉
Thanks!
#learnedalotoftvtech
Thanks Vincent for the DV info, I was getting worried that my A1E would not get this update.
Fine review once again VT, and choosing the right footage to high light the audio performance.Great job!
vicent...
you are the best in this business..
Prior to my mothers knee replacement I advised her on getting the KD-65A1 for her bedroom to enjoy some leisure time without the need to leave the bed and to watch TV on an uncomfortable sofa - We're still marveled at it compared to her other TV or mine so when they started dropping prices like mad starting this week I ordered myself the bigger KD-77A1 to replace my, still very nice, KD-75S9005B lacking all the neat stuff like OLED and HDR.
Paid 5k for a 75 inch Sony 940 d and I cant get Dolby vision cause I didn't get the near 10k z series . How nice. Thanks Sony.
Great information as always Vincent. Ty
Oh god. I need this tv for Blade Runner 2049.
I have always preferred Sony video processing over Samsung's.
Samsung is no OLED is led no white balance pixel color is distorson go to sony Z9 OR BRVIA XE9005 LED is Britons win now led or AE1 win black OLED BEST OFF BEST Sony
Samsung Video Processing is Nothing
I bought 55" version today online. It's going Tobe delivered day after tomorrow .
Thing is I got it for very cheap price, 1100$ in India. Is it a wise decision purchasing the TV or should I cancel my order.
Here in India price of Oled tv starts at 2000$ .
I enjoyed this very much. The examples you show us and your clear explanation adds a lot of usable knowledge to us viewers. With this knowledge we can finally look at a movie the way we like, as we now know what named function does what and we can adjust it to our own taste. Thank you for that, highly appreciated.
I own this tv and the whole thing is out of this world. Picture/sound/looks, everything is truly a piece of art and mindblowing. People complaining about techspecs: this TV is so bright it hurt my eyes on max settings. These small % of missing colors people are not even able to see. There is no match for the stunning quality of this A1, not even LG with the same panel. I spend a whole day comparing both. Sony upscaling is way better and the Dolby vision blacks are black unlike LG's greytinted Dolby vision. Yamaha a3070 + Klipsch speakers + Sony A1 65"= Dolby atmos setup that outperforms any cinema easily. M2C.
I always look forward to your videos...very informative. I'll be hitting you up when am ready to splurge on 65incher. Kep up the good work.
Hello Vincent. Great video👍
Would you say 4k Oleds have caught up to plasmas in terms of motion blur?
I have an old Pioneer plasma and I am reluctant to upgrade because when I visit friends and watch sports on their expensive LCDs, I find them comically insufferable and no combination of settings can ever fix it.
I'm looking forward to getting Dolby Vision on my Zd 9 Great Review
ironopps661 when is the update coming
ericimi supposedly sometime in December
Who's about to receive Dolby Vision, we salute you!
ironopps661 where did you hear that ?
IT really does not need it
Wow that’s my next tv!!! Thanks for the in depth review!!
Should one be concerned with image burn on the newer OLED’S I heard LG does not refund TVs that develop image burn
they dont refund for burn in and also for cross talk ghosting in 3D and their CS is the most pathetic in the whole world!
STEVE ORTEZ so wont sony, so wont panasonic.
Ample17 I had issue with Sony z9D, one call to sony was enough to get it replaced. I had an issue with Lg 65e6p, 3 months no resolution, i had to escalate with bbb twitter media to get this moving with lg but still no resolution, ymmv u may get lucky.. never an lg ever again.. just my 2 cents
SkidRow1983 I see your point. It's my first LG so i will give them a chance but if something like what happend to you happened to me i too would not buy this brand again. I totally understand why you are pissed of.
They make Billions they do not care.
Vince we love you !!!!!!!! thank for a excellent review (the best reviewer EVER)!!!!!!!!!! THUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE ^_^
We are finally blessed with TVs that can do perfect black and people want to complain about brightness. If you want that bright, harsh, annoying image, keep your junk LCD. Oh, sorry... QLED. The junk is called 'QLED' now.
Is that how you feel about the x940E also?
Alex Drum Yes. I hate LCD displays.
HeavyMetalSonicRM Samsung is no OLED is led no white balance pixel color is distorson go to sony Z9 OR BRVIA XE9005 LED is Britons win now led or AE1 win black OLED BEST OFF BEST Sony
Unfortunately good LCD TV's are much better at HDR than OLEDs and that's a deal breaker. Obviously OLED is a better technology but it's just not there yet. Once it does catch up and we get bright RGB OLEDs it's lights out for LCD.
HeavyMetalSonicRM bullshit the people sale no won't you to see the limited brightness unlimited temperature pixel so screen no burn no peixl miilt bicoz that is more black more black but is was distortion color Bern in your screen and you say I pay so much and get the tv a is no good for HDR bullshit no good brightness end you pay double ☹️
Great vid,I have the 55" a1 and it's awesome
wow, this guy gives me goosebumps: he is so good at reviews!
Wonderful video. The best channel on youtube for me since I want to buy a real good new tv. Are the things you speak about for the 77 inch the same for the 65 inch version? And something else will Iphone work well with android tv? this because I have an Iphone but realy love the A1E. Hoping for some good reactions and keep up the good work!
Best review you've done. Bravo
Great review Vincent! This is an amazing TV, great job Sony.
Good review I like the fact you look out for gamers also, with the ms lag.
What about using the 1080p/120hz mode? Input lag drops to 21.4ms. Perfect for using a HTPC gaming machine as they can hit 60fps plus. Consoles can barely go above 30.
My (almost) 10 year old Pioneer Kuro has never suffered any screen burn or retention and has been left on SKY Sports channels with bright static images.
crazy to think that 10 years later we are still talking about screen burn.
Thank you Sir, lovely job again wasn’t that interested in the Tv but it great hearing your opinion on it and OLED in general. A special thanks for covering the subject on Image Retention and Burnin!
This tv is from another world 🙌
I have a humble Panasonic 65 inch ST50 plasma and although I get image retention for a few seconds I have never had any burn in. And this TV has been used by the kids to watch "Pop" which has a massive white logo on the top left.
theprince08853 I have the 2011 ST30 & haven't had any issue with burn in either. I have played many games, watched letterbox movies & even use it as a PC monitor.
awesome work on your tv break downs!!!!!!
HDTVTest Vincent when is sonys premium lcd led Tvs going to get the Dolby Vision Update? Have you heard any New News?? Thanks Really enjoy your videos!!
That's why I own a Sony.
So the motion resolution is 300 with no motion flow..is that test done in 50..60 hz? If so when watching a 24 hz movie would the resolution be less than 300??
Wonderful job. Sony, hire this man!
Thank you for the in-depth review. Its nice to see someone who understands the nuance in the platforms. DO you know if DolbyVision will be under exclusive contract with Sony, or will this be available in LG OLED platforms as well?
LG, Loewe and VIZIO support Dolby Vision
great video..... what is this for an 4K movie ???
I contacted sony about the dolby vision update on the A!E and they will roll it out or for all of them new bought or already with cosumers in Janury 2018 they say.
Please, could you confirm when is going to be updated built-in youtube app to support HDR?? Maybe is not an app update and it is necessary a whole firmware update to support Vp9 profile 2 (x1 extreme processors it supposed to support it). It’s really weird that entry model xe70 supports youtube HDR and all android models don’t...I would really appreciate this information. Thanks!
Hi Vincent! I love your videos but I have a question.? I have a samsung tv and others too when I press info for the tv it says 2160/24p. the picture is not 24p...24 is the htz nor is it fps so can you explain it . thank you !
brilliant review!
Fantastic videos, thanks for posting these.
That attempted pun at 5:53, LOL
After playing with the dim HDR Game Mode on the LG C7 Which tone maps on a 10,000 not scale, I feel like Sony’s method to maintain luminance may be an overall better method. Like you mentioned the amount of time highlight detail hits over 1,000 nits is so small compared to the rest of overall image, it doesn’t seem worth the sacrifice of luminance on the LG. HDR Standard Mode seems fine, but the current HDR Game Mode needs work...maybe offer an HDR Game Bright preset for those willing to sacrifice super peak highlight detail to maintain overall brightness. It makes me wish I had chosen the A1E over the C7, despite the lower price and better input lag.
Would the A1 audio work in unison with a Sound Bar? Is there a way to use the acoustic surface audio along with a Sound Bar and still get the intended effect you spoke of with being able to pinpoint who is speaking on screen like you mentioned with the newscasters? Thanks
Please don't ever mix two sound solutions. It's not meant to be done. Perhaps look into adding a separate subwoofer to your A1E if you want more depth of sound. IIRC you can add a wireless sub.
You can add a wired sub as well.
You spent some time on screen burn. Would it be possible to have software that creates black rectangles that block static logos? All the news channels cover the screen with obnoxious graphics that I wish I cut from the image.
Do you know why the Sony update ONLY works for the apps preinstalled on Sony TVs and not the HDMI ports? Very disappointed with this update!
hi sir i love sony tv, my living room is too brighter , i looking 75,or larger tv of sony tv will you plz help me out which will be the best?
So Ive had an LG B6 OLED for a year now. Its been on just about every day all day, easily 10 hours a day. The picture still blows me away. There is no screen burn in just minor image retention that fades very quickly and only noticeable on certain shades. I did discover recently on a 5% gray screen there is vertically banding only you never notice it while playing games or watching Netflix. Ive never noticed until I was told how to find it. HDR Game Mode is too dark but I dont care I just use HDR Bright. The colors and motion handling could be slightly better. OLEDs are not perfect but no technology, brand, or model is. A majority of the negative stuff I read or hear online about OLED has not matched my experience. I doubt anyone even gets true burn in. More like stubborn image retention because they watched CNN for 3 months straight. Ive had the experience on my 2013 Panasonic plasma. Took a few weeks to get rid of a logo which many might of thought was burn in but it was stubborn image retention. It went away. If your going to watch Fox News every day or play the same game every day and never change your media then OLED is not for you. Youll get stubborn image retention and what is the use of fixing it because youll just get it right back. That is the dilemma. It took a week to get rid of that IR of the CNN logo but now you want to watch CNN still lol.
Which is the best: SONY A1E OR LG C7 AND WHY?? PRICE DOESN'T MATTER
Vincent, any hints from Sony about support for DV UHD Blu-ray's on the UBP-X800 once the DV update for X1 Extreme sets is out?
They are adamant X800 won't get DV.
Any HDR10 Update for the A1 65 INCH. and what the last version number? thnx
Got the 55inch A1 oled and it's awesome
How is the hdr game mode? very bright?
Got a ps4 pro and an Xbox one x hooked up to the TV and it's amazing. It's super bright in hdr mode
that's good to hear! cheers
Today 1/16/2018 released DV firmware update. Confirmed by Sony support, DV enabled for Sony's "Netflix or Amazon" android app's ONLY. DV is NOT supported via HDMI. Sony support stated no future info or details.
what were the horrible looking marks top centre of the tv ??
Reflections from overhead lamp fixtures.
HDTVTest hey could you do a video comparison of the ps4 pro VS Xbox one x on hdr streaming apps like Amazon and Netflix?
HDTVTest also is there any way I can get that 4k hdr Sydney video?
lol yeah I feel silly now makes sense :-)
I was tired in my defence
Any HDR10 Update for the B7 yet?
Thank you for adressing screen Burn and image retention :)
Can you compare all the televisions of 2017 and find the best please
Hrm...just a bit ago he was saying that the 2017 LG OLEDs with the Technicolor firmware were holding their own. This time he seemed to indicate the Sony is better. Oh well, I'm committed now...
Nice one cheers Vince!
Are there scratches on the upper middle of the screen? or is that lighting reflection?
Lighting reflection.
And I just bought a LG B7 from Crampton and Moore Leeds Vincent. If there happens to be any issues with it maybe they will take it back and I could instead get the 55A1E. I hope the LGs motion is good though??? I didn't get the Sony because it's way too expensive.
MaxPower211983 You wont be unhappy with the LG B7, its a incredible tv also.
The LG's motion is very good too. I just got one. I personally prefer to have the motion flow system off. No soap opera effect at all.
5:54 lets talk about scaling, while scales in the background....bravo
hey bro awesome channel, can you do a vid on best 4ktvs for gaming?
Wich oled t.v in your opinion has less of a soap opera effect?
I wonder if you could use the TV speaker as your center speaker, in a multi-speaker setup from a receiver?
You can!
ThrummerOfLove you can, but in some cases it won’t go as loud compared to the other channels..
Does this use the screen as a speaker? Also, 3D technology back yet?
wh1ppet1982 yeah, I was wondering will anyone offer a 3d 4k hdr oled tv in the future. Or will the LG from 2016 be the last standing giant.
On the topic of colour uniformity, I purchased a 55” LG C7 OLED, so the smallest. It had bad uniformity that actually affected the content such as football (soccer) where the field looked different one side to the other. So although larger screens are generally more prone to such issues the smaller screens are not without issue. I returned the tv and won’t be buying an LG tv again. My next tv will likely be a Sony. Not a £20k one though!
Shlax Berg the uniformity has been a issue since lg first released the oled. And they have no idea how to rectify it.
Marion Knight In my opinion LG should not put out such a product if it has known major faults. Have they confirmed this issue themselves? I don’t care how deep the blacks are if the other colours are different one side of the screen to the other. Not a cheap TV either.
I haven't noticed any of those issues with mine. Just got it and I love it!
rsjet Sometimes unless you’re looking for it you won’t see it. Of course if it isn’t very noticeable it’s not really an issue anyway.
Shlax Berg once noticed you can’t miss it.
please please do the Panasonic 65" EX780(750) tv with calibration settings Vinny.....
Have the Sony x930e and x940e received the Dolby Vision update yet in the US?
No.
HDTVTest thank you
HDTVTest do you have any date ?
Do one of the 100" Z9D
Do you have $60,000 to buy one for him?
hdtvtest. i noticed on say my lg c7 the yellowish tint comes from setting the tv on WARM 2 in the white balance. I noticed pure whites say in the tv guide or things of that nature appear yellowish when engaged. putting it on warm 1 seems to help
Vertical banding probably resulting in Dirty Screen Effect on a € 20.000 TV? How is this top notch and even worth considering over a ZD9 or KS95 which come very close on SDR picture quality and probably surpass the A1 OLED in HDR content!
May I know if there is 40 inch Sony A1 or any 40 inch Sony OLED TV with equal or close to A1 clarity?
Abubakar Mahmud. Hi there!
Unfortunately there's not Oled below 55 inch, only 55, 65 and 77 inches to date are available.
Below that you would go with LED, and if it's Sony you want, like XE90 in europe or X900E in the US which is Fald(full array local dimming) and comes from 49". Or XE80 X800E from 43". But be aware that instead of the X1 extreme chip which comes with high end models like the ZD9 and the A1 oled, they comes with the X1-4K hdr processor and the 4K X Reality pro.
At the end almost all 2017 tv's are a nice piece of technology with beautiful image.
Hope was useful.
Very good Mr. Teoh
can you do a sony z9d review?
My father in-law just bought one of these in Japan.
way to much in todays market and with an Pixel pr inch of relative 57ppi, you also gotta wonder where the goldilok-zone are for PPI fullfillment hence such an huge canvas.. sure you just have to move back then it will be ideally.
but on the other hand, above formfactor will not take long before 8k will be the standard on those dimensions as 57PPI is relative in todays Tvtech.
fx 55 OLED carries 81PPI, and 65' 68PPI and 77' operates with 57Pixel pr inch
so in regards to 55inch OLED you got a -30% less Pixel fullfillment, with the same amount of ligh emitting diodes..sure it still will look incredible, and partically if you get fare enough away, but 20k GPB in todays market.. thats a lot, for a panel identical to its 55inch sibling carrying same innerspec just in smaller formfactor costing under 1/10 atm.
Anyway topnoth vid+1 // thx
Give the price for sony s xbr a9g 77 inch
Well I will go with the X930e for the Following Reasons:
Awesome HDR Peak Brightness
No Retention / Screen Burning Problems Like the OLEDs ( Even in LGs 2017 Models these problem persists ) It is an OLED Draw Back.
Great Local Dimming with Sony Slim BackLight+ , much better than Samsungs Qled ( like the Q7F)
Better Motion Handling / Less Image Flicker Compared to Samsung.
Much Better build quality compared to Samsung Flagships
Quantum.Dot ? Oh that is an Old technology that Sony Introduced in 2013 in their Triluminos displays that Samsung adpoted in 2016 and LG in Nano Crystals.
120hz Input for 1080p (Gaming Enthusiasts)
Overall it is a great tv set and well arounded in every area from. Local Dimming , HDR Performance , Build Quality , Motion Handling, Contrast and Brightness.
Mr. Ihab Issa i have that tv the 65 inch and its fucking incredible.. There's some really good sales on that TV right now.
Love the x930e
Mr. Ihab Issa I own the 65 X930E as well. Its a awesome set..HDR is incredible. Black levels are excellent. I have a few vids posted on my channel if you wanna check em out..Good luck on your tv quest
Adam Carter Already started
55" - $1498.00 - Dropped by $200
65" - $1998.00 - Dropped by $500
Mr. Ihab Issa Yea i got. Mines when it was 2500 but I was still under the 30 days price guarantee so I got 500 dollars back. That's a bargain for what this set can do.
Very in testing trying to decide between 75 inch z vs oled 77 any thoughts
Z for HDR, OLED for everything else.
Thru out most your video there is a "L" shaped scratch at horizontal middle about 20% down from vertical top of display. As in black background at 20 seconds into video.
Is that sizable scratch from your camera?
From the A1e?
The "L" shape has no color.
Reflections from his video setup (to record the review).
Will the x900e get the Dolby Vision upgrade as well?
Sony did not confirmed it. Only TV's with the X1 extreme processor.
No, sorry.
HDTVTest ok thank you sir.
Admir Uzunovic ok thank you.
Only the Sony Z9D, X94E and X93E.
LG 65C7 for 2249€ or Sony 65A1 - 2799€ ?
Which one is better ?
Always sony over LG
Releasing an advertised feature after almost a year is not something that Sony should proud of it and makes me wonder about the support of the TV in the future. I've read horror stories about Android TV so you need to be really brave to buy this 77A1 and hope that you don't need to send it it back due some kinky Android problem
Adam Majorcsik Both of my Android Sony’s have been working well. Updates are far in between but luckily when they do update it doesn’t break another feature requiring a long lead time for a fix ect.
Would this set be ideal for 16ft viewing distance?
Yes, and maybe it's still a bit too small.
Thanks for the reply. I don’t want a projector so I might have to go 88”Q9 Qled but being edged light is not ideal.
Blackloz lol I’m so sorry you have to settle for that sorry tv:/
vGREENARROWv not what I really want but unless I suddenly win the lottery and can afford the 100” Z9D my options appear to be limited. I might hold off since there is a rumor that Samsung is going to bring back a FALD LED. Hopefully it won’t be curved.
Blackloz lol look good luck... Samsung has bad judder and motion blur.
Is this TV good for a bright room? i read OLEDs are not good for them. any truth in that?
Nithin Muktesh i own a1 65 for the last 10 months...believe me this is the best tv for any bright rooms, for dark rooms, for any rooms...dont compare them with lcds...oled is a different - superior - technology...now comparing sony with lg oleds, i would say that sony is better regarding colours and video processing...lgs 2018 i think that they pick more brightness...they have less aggressive abl algorithm, which means more bright pictures.in the end i think that sony a1 remains best oled tv...with lge8 following (also a fantastic tv...)
They are not
Still the best tv on the planet nothing can match it and Sony should consider rerelease it.
Great video
Did i hear Mr Teoh correctly.. from 8:30 'Being a self-emissive display if you display a static logo for too long then naturally it will burn'..? Are plasma tv's not self emitting displays? My kuro never suffers from retention never mind burn. I had a Panasonic VT65B and that did suffer from image retention.. Poor.. This means OLED panels are no good at all for gaming.. Shame.
All the fear about image retention in 2017 OLEDs are overblown. I've gamed on my A1E for hours upon hours at a time, no image retention to speak of yet.
I also have a 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite Plasma TV for 8 years, using both Gaming / Movies with ZERO BURN in.. The TV still performs excellent with solid rich deep blacks with true motion traction and no video noise. I cant believe I paid 5K for a 1080i plasma TV in 2009, but like my 99 ford explorer; they just don't make them like that anymore.... The only downfall is heavy as 4 tons of bricks and has a huge bezel; if you can distinguish it when the tv is on. Thats how hyper black the blacks are in this tv.
Really wanted to see ps4 pro game play on tat tv..
thanks vinent...
I heard that all OLED TVs are very susceptible to screen burn and not recommended for game consoles.
M VGA i own two oled tvs, lg e6 65’ since 2016 and sony a1 65’ for the last 10 months...no burn in issue, fantastic tvs, much better than any lcd...
LG OLED TVs
He looks like a Sony person, and that's not a bad thing~
Thanks I’ll wait went the price goes down
luis arevalo lol keep on waiting.. about time you wait any longer they are going to discontinue and the newer ones going to be out and back to $5500
i got the LG B7 last week and sadly got a "piss" poor panel. i got fkn yellow tint on the left side (4cm bar from top to bottom) and a larger yet less visible area in the middle, which actually introduces skin tone in a movie with black and white scenes(Kill-Bill the Brides wedding). Im quite disappointed with the quality control of LG in case there is any.
Should've bought the C7 :^)
doesnt matter. Its pure luck getting a fine panel.
So why did you buy it then, if it's "pure luck"? Lol, some people..
ever heard of the term "panel lottery"? no? thats what i thought. dont talk shit if you have no clue about anything related to OLED technologie. now piss off dumbshit
LOL, you mad that you didn't follow your own principles?