I LOVE the “no foul language” policy. Just imagine you’re getting the crap beat out of you, suffocated, yelled at, then you just say “fuck” and they all go “WHOA WHOA WHOA you went too far, you’re outta here buddy.”
it's becoming more and more common in true crime circles to just remind the audience that serial killers/murderers/famous criminals are almost always just big, dumb morons who think they're better than everybody else.
I went to a haunted house in Virginia with my dad once, and the guy chasing us yelled “LEAVING SO SOON, THATS PRETTY RUDE” and that tapped into my primal fear of being a bad guest
I think the reason people tap out "after 8 minutes" is because they expect some grand scary haunted house and instead just get a demented old man beating them up and start to realize this is gonna be just this dude getting his rocks off for 10 hours
"alright, 5 minutes of that guy jerking off in the corner whole I get brutalized was ok but 8 minutes is a bit too much" then they all just walk out "alright man, we tried but that's all we got"
They dont expect it at all. The wait list is over a year long with a 40+ page waiver. You also need to show proof via a psych evaluation that you are mentally competent to go through it.
I feel like it’s way more impressive for a haunted house to convince a participant that they’re in extreme danger rather than straight up putting them in danger and torturing them.
haunted houses make you feel fear with fake things, and give you the illusion of extreme danger. extreme haunted houses still give you a somewhat illusion of extreme danger, and there is danger. MM takes away any illusion and puts you in *extreme* danger. i mean- there are just so so many layers to this place. like- an insane amount of layers. but i do not consider this a haunted house. this is a torture chamber.
I like how it goes from "oh it's just a really scary haunted house it can't actually hurt you" to "it's literally torture" back to "it's just scare tactics"
I love how one of the waiver requirements was that the participant agrees they aren’t an undercover agent. I just think of him getting busted by an undercover cop and as he’s being carted away, he’s just shouting out: “But you signed the waiver!”
@pyropulse this has nothing to do with my comment. There’s nothing against the law saying a cop has to confirm they’re a cop. And you’re lucky because they’ll search your car regardless most times. All they gotta do is get a dog and have it fake alert and they have probable cause. Been through it many times. You seem young. Stop thinking you know everything please
I had absolutely no desire to go to McKamey Manor while seeing the footage and listening to the description of the waiver, but after learning that McKamey Manor is handicap accessible and is free of foul language, I'm ready to sign up!
I’m a scare actor in a haunt (Baxter Avenue Morgue in Louisville, KY), and I can’t stand the number of times people have asked me “Is that the one where they make you sign a waiver so they can torture you?” I’ll never forgive Russ for being a stain on the industry the way he has been and apparently still is after calling it quits
Mckamey waiver: You are in no real danger and everything is just a fun game. Also Mckamey waiver: Participant understands that they may be forced to skydive without a parachute, and it is their responsibility to make it to the ground safely, and if the participant fails to do so MM cannot be held responsible.
I haven’t watched the full video, but there are numerous reports of the safe word not being respected AT ALL and basically being tortured and permanently disfigured for hours and hours, totally non-consensually
A creepypasta where it’s the mcamey manor waiver but things just keep getting progressively weirder Like warnings about radioactivity, extinct animals, dimensional bleeds, demons, time travel
I've been through a lot of haunts, escape rooms, survival horror attractions, and others. However, that manor has been the only place that my crew collectively blacklisted. One of my friends went for it, and he told us that it was not worth it. Its genuinely painful, my friend got multiple bruises and a broken nose. Calling it a haunted house is like calling a Jurassic park a petting zoo
@@el3ctroshock yeah exactly it's like hours and hours worth of psychological torture! That's the part that's the worst is the fact that it doesn't let up for hours. That sounds exhausting just thinking about it. I wouldn't want to go through a normal haunted house that took hours to get through! Frankly I believe it's the length of the house versus what actually happens there. If he were to cut it down to 1 hour or 2 hours there would be a lot of people who would pass it. And if it was just your average run of the mill haunted house but it took like 12 hours to get through most people wouldn't pass it.
I wonder if anyone has actually "snapped" while in there and fully lashed out at people for hurting/torturing them too far. Like imagine if someone went absolutely crazy and started swinging at the people trying to haunt them
@@yazminlares6000 a waiver wouldn't mean shit if someone snapped... that was the point of my comment. I'd imagine that it would probably be so bad for some people that they would just lose it in there
I have always assumed that the "no swearing" rule is another way for him to avoid ever paying out. If someone does swear, and most people would, he can take it all the way to the end and then refuse to pay because they broke the rules. Like Willy Wonka screaming about Charlie stealing fizzy lifting drinks.
@@justarandomuser8434 Demonetisation for swearing or violence has only been a thing on UA-cam for a couple years. When he was uploading regularly that wasn't a thing.
wendigoon saying "dont worry guys im not going to read the whole thing" and then sitting down for 20 minutes to read the entire thing is EXACTLY why i watch this channel
This makes me think that McKamey lost. His "attraction" is no longer about scaring people, it's about pain and endurance. I can be scared shitless without anyone ever touching me, while I sit in a comfortable house - this is the art of horror. His haunted house lacks it, it's just making people suffer physically. Anyone can do that.
@@Vampress09 That's a fair stance. I don't get scared by movies personally (or really any media, real life is way scarier), so I find a sort of joyful catharsis in splatter flicks. Still not that fun little tinge of fear, but at least giddiness over cheesy practical effects and over the top kills. But I get how some could see them as a cheap and tasteless alternative to something more...psychologically stimulating..
@@Vampress09 I feel like gore itself isn't inherently horror, it can be used in horror media, where the goal is usually to disturb someone or establish whatever is, you know, ripping people apart as a threat and something to be scared of. But some "horror" media that involves gore, I actually don't really consider horror - Final Destination doesn't feel like horror to me, it feels almost like what I'd call an action movie, depsite being labelled as a horror. Anyway, using it on its own is usually really cheap, and doesn't require much talent. It's like how there was that effective jumpscare in Jaws, with the corpse, that also serves to establish the shark as a serious threat, but jumpscares in many other horror movies are just a loud noise and something that pops out of nowhere. Horror, to me, is like putting all these pieces together in a puzzle that will thoroughly creep out or disturb the audience, not throwing in various individual elements without knowing what you're doing. Small horror rant, don't mind me...
@@cranberryrosebud I agree! (Fictional) Gore by itself isn't scary, what makes it scary is a story behind it, the context, the atmosphere, and the importance it has in emphasizing an element of the story. (Fictional) Gore content isn't bad though, it is cool in its own way, but a lot of producers forget just throwing guts out there isn't scary
@@Vampress09 Exactly atmosphere will always get me over gore. I've survived cancer, and almost loosing my arm to it; plus I used to be a medical worker so I just go into work mode. Give me a Guirellmo del Toro vibe to a scene and lightly graze my arm and whisper in my ear I'll be much more afraid.
The whole place is just fake. Reckless Ben just finished a whole series debunking the Manor. The owner has a torture kink and is flat broke. No one can get the $20,000 because it doesn't exist. He backs out if the contestant doesn't.
Exactly. Just watched those videos. Those guys did everything they could to get them to ACTUALLY put them through the "Extreme Haunted House" didn't happen. It was ridiculous. It's a total scam. And the guy doesn't even make money off his scam, he just makes dog food....
@@galactic.cl0ud im imagining some squeaky voiced 13 year old getting fucking DESTROYED in a haunted house and then he screams "oh my gosh!" then everyone starts screaming and sprinting away
As someone who has been in the haunted attraction industry for about a decade, most of us don’t like this guy, and a lot of people don’t even consider what he does to be worth calling a haunted house. This place and places like it are why so many people refuse to go through haunts and they really give the industry a bad name.
As someone who's grown up in a HAUNT family, I can 100% agree with this statement. Gives normal haunts a very bad reputation purely because Russ is a narcissistic masochist
This was one of the first "haunted houses" I had heard of and it made me never want to go to a haunted house. Then I realized normal haunted houses are a lot of fun
McKamey could’ve had something really good here, had he actually focussed on nuance instead of one-upping himself. The idea of a personalized haunted house that is customized to exploit your personal fears is incredibly interesting, if only it were performed in a classic haunted house format rather than a glorified torture chamber.
@@FrenkieWest32 there are nearly 8 billion people on earth and some of them are very rich, it wouldn't be a normal experience either if it was personalized and high budget :P
@@chadandersen6590 while this is true, I think the reason people were going for mckamey manor is because they were thrill seekers looking for an extreme experience. I doubt there's many people who are going to go out of their way significantly for a personalized but normal haunted house experience. Let's not forget that it's quite low budget. It would probably be an old apartment building with some dolls and costumes reflecting your specific fear or whatever. It's not some super fancy experience.
That's kinda the reason why places like Halloween Horror Nights have multiple haunted houses. There is usually a clown themed one, one with spiders, one with tight spaces, you get the point.
As a long time haunted house actor and general lover of Halloween attractions, I can say full well, most haunters outright hate this place and the bad reputation it gives to the craft, and based on what is broken down here, the sour feelings are not unfounded. That said, the story at the end made me super happy to hear. My current haunt is a home grown "Barn Haunt" a local family has run for a decade that has grown to a proper small buisness as a pop up parking lot haunt and i am so hapoy to be part of their own growth
I’d argue that’s it’s not even horror oriented, it’s torture oriented like nothing in this is about horror, it’s all about pain and abuse. Again, idfk much about the industry, I’m a nobody from California but still
I like how he recorded the waiver part in different times of the day because when it suddenly changed it just felt like he was going through the waiver for so long that it eventually became night.
Hey everyone, just wanted to mention that the audio is a little echoey in the first section of the video. I didn't realize until I was editing and tried to fix it as much as I could, but hopefully it's not unbearable and you can suffer through the first part. Thank you all so much for being here and showing the channel so much support, you all are a real blessing. Also, pls check out the movie's kickstarter.
Fun fact, waivers don't actually absolve you from criminal activity. If you're going to a haunted house and you have to sign a waiver that says you may be injured or hassled or assaulted, that doesn't mean you can't sue them if you get injured. Like for example, if one of the actors were to beat you with a baseball bat. You could most definitely file a criminal complaint. Have that person arrested and sue McKamey. That's a fact.
The amount of people who dont understand that is wild. It's like if someone made a contract saying "yes, I consent to this person killing me." You're still getting a murder charge and going to prison. You can't consent to crimes
Damn right! When I took Contracts and we got to unconscionability I IMMEDIATELY thought of this place. Like there's no way you can enforce this shit LMAO
@@TheCommunistColin I heard they rough you up a bit before you even get to sign the waiver, thus rendering it invalid as at that point you're signing it under duress
Exactly this!! Waivers so rarely hold up in court they seem to act as a deterrent for sueing if anything. I badly sprained my ankle at a rock climbing gym a couple of years back. While I'd signed a waiver that I couldn't sue if I got injured, they were absolutely falling over themselves to get me help and offer me free things to stop me prosecuting. There's so much room to argue negligence.
I think everyone that has ever heard of McKamey Manor needs to watch this video, because it offers such a refreshing perspective on it. I love how you shatter the mystique that surrounds this place and makes the viewers realize that this infamy is really just a manipulation tactic by some bitter man with a bit of money.
I am always hesitant to watch videos about this place because it plays into exactly what this dude wants. The cash prize is fake, the "streaming" of the torture to people who pay is fake, the waiver is fake, and it's basically devolved into making you pull him around on a giant tire at this point. Was that covered? I don't want to provide any views to video glorifying this dude
@@margggggggie Sorry if I missed your point, but if you’re asking if this is a video glorifying the guy, it’s the opposite. It’s practically exactly what you said by the end and he debunks all of those same things
@@sam.3519 Thanks. I was just hesitant due to the $20k thing being in the thumbnail. Russ works at Walmart now, so you don't even have to give him dog food to experience him being rude to you anymore lmao
"He didn't have to follow the guidelines that most businesses have to follow... like the Geneva Convention" Wendigoon you truly have the best delivery even in the worst topics- 100/10, would recommend
If you havent heard of Reckless ben, look him up. Him AND his friend went there seperately...& it was basically, ONLY a bootcamp, in his front yard. As soon as one of the guyys FINALLY DID get to the "haunted house" portion, Russ's camera battery went dead so, the guy want allowed to continue! Not even after he switched out the batteries.
That clip where the employee is listing out the things he’s done and what a horrible person he is, and other employees agreed and claimed that he blackmailed them. Yet Russ is the only one that said “that’s not true” TELLS A LOT.
I’m afraid I don’t have the link of the video right this second, but the documentary that footage is taken from is very eye-opening. Watching the footage taken from the haunt is much much worse than McKamey’s own videos. There’s no gloss or horror style editing, and it’s extremely disturbing. It really shows that Russ isn’t a showman or someone trying push the extremes of a haunted house for the sake of that particular art. I’m convinced he’s a psychopath.
@@txtbot9000 I’ve been trying to find it since I made that comment. I’m afraid I still haven’t found it, and my first viewing of it was a while ago, so I don’t recall the title. It’s been on and off UA-cam for a bit now - partly due to legitimate copyright issues, partly due to Russ’ machinations, if my memory is correct. If I happen to find it, I’ll post the title here.
yeah that made me so uncomfortable. i know the girl in the clip, we worked at a halloween store together last year, and my stomach dropped hearing her talk about that
@@xotennisxgirlox believe it or not he’s not making much revenue from youtube… I’ve followed this topic pretty closely for a few years. A majority of his views were 4 years ago, he’s demonetized as well (last I saw). Russ currently works as a Walmart employee stocking shelves and lives in a small trailer in Tennessee. Believe me when I say dude is not holding onto much cash flow lmao
Thats what I said. If he's not making money off of the infamy of the experience, then that begs the question, "what's the motivation for doing it?" And to me, it's pretty obvious that he LIKES doing it
I loved the part where wendigoon was like "I'm not gonna sit here and go through fourty pages of a waver" and then immediately in the next part starts reading the waver 🤣🤣 this is why I come back to watch this man's videos
I've been a haunt actor before at your standard mid-budget boo haunt. It's fun to scare people, but it's not fun to *hurt* people. I've accidentally given people panic attacks. I've also then helped those people to exit the attraction safely, because the goal is to never harm someone, but to just get their adrenaline going. Even if his haunt was not as extreme as the internet made it out to be, his behavior was sadistic and unacceptable, and every haunt worth their stuff i know of does not want to be associated in any way with him. That was not a haunt. It was a psychological and physical torture room.
My two NO-GO's are as follows: 1. Pulling of teeth. 2. Raw sewage. Bonus: 3. The fact that there are multiple clauses in regards to drowning. It's almost as though they want you to drown, and even encourage it.
HOW CAN YOU BLAME HIM if you aren't able to hold your breath for the requisite 3 minutes it takes not to die? Or if you choose to accidentally breathe in water?
@@theragingrodent__ It's even more than just holding your breath for 3 minutes. Stress and heightened heart rate make it much more difficult to hold your breath for prolonged periods
From what I've heard in this video, this guy comes across as somewhat of a sadist. It seems like this guy has kind of a pain and humiliation deal going on.
This man talks about anything and I find myself watching. He's a great speaker. There aren't any flashy things or silly pictures, just him telling the info. I appreciate this account lol
I like how Russ ignores everyone else when they ask to quit. But this marine takes everything Russ throws at him and it's "oh you're shaking, we are stopping because of hypothermia". Such bs no person can do that without shivering. The game is unwinnable.
Dude litterally, before Wendigoon even said the longest lasting guy was a marine I was already theorizing on how a marine could blow through this haunted house 🤣 the crucible which all marines experience is like a 3 day long mcKamy manor 🤣
“He didn’t have to follow the guidelines that most business have to follow, like the Geneva convention”. Had me in tears, another fantastic production Wendigoon!
McKamey: NO ONE will EVER get through this show, EVER **a marine who is trained to mentally and physically withstand things MUCH worse than the abuse in MM successfully nears the end of the show** McKamey: oh god no he’s a little bit chilly he must be suffering from hypothermia !
I can imagine the torturer taking off his leather face mask and saying, "Mr. McKamey, sir. He said a curse word." while pointing at the perpetrator. Then McKamey rushes in the room to tell that horrible beast that cursing is not allowed then cancel the whole thing all while pointing to the waiver article 25, section c, line 6 that states: "NO CURSING!!!!"
As a haunt actor, I'm glad MaKammy Manor has fizzled out into a shell of what it once was. I can only speak for myself, but I feel the point of being a haunt actor is to make sure our guests have fun. Yes, we are here to scare you but there's a point when people stop having fun when they're terrified. It's one thing to be an extreme haunt that touches and drags people from their groups, but it's another thing to take away all forms of safety during a haunt. You hit the nail on the head, Russ lost his way and centered his "haunt" around physical and mental trauma rather that spookiness.
Thank you, I like when I hear from people like you. I saw someone else in the comments being really dismissive of people that can't handle these things and that kind of thing makes me really angry. I've been through some intense, nasty shite, it's just pretty much all medical. I'm Autistic tho, and I cannot handle things like haunts. I've been through a (n accidental) paracetamol overdose, a perforated bowel and really bad psychosis so I don't think I'm a pansy, but I have bad sensory issues, a really exaggerated startle response and really bad anxiety. I know other people who I wouldn't in any way call pathetic who wouldn't be able to handle extreme haunts (and I do mean perfectly innocent ones, not Russ's nonsense) and I just find it horrible when people are dismissive of legit issues people can have that hinder enjoyment of this kind of thing. Sorry for the personal essay, it's just something I care about a lot. I often see haunt workers comment on this kind of thing saying that it isn't fair and that people being legit terrified isn't fun for anyone and I just appreciate that. 🥰
Dont go to them. Because you dont like them doesnt mean you should say nobody should do these. That is so stupid to hear anyone say, "I dont like it so people shouldnt either!" is so goddamn old. Mind your fucking business, and if it says it has something you dont like, keep walking by. It's pretty fucking simple.
@@ChromeCobra420 dude, this MF doesn't allow people to read the contracts they have to sign, employs ex-sexual harrassers as actors, contradicts himself AND state law in the aforementioned contract, marketed the room as a huanted house when In reality he would torture participants and hold them hostage, and unironically violates the Geneva convention. Saying Its shady, misleading and Absolutely psychotic would be doing It a compliment. Edit: Also that One marine Who almost got trought the whole thing and MM conveniently thought he was having hypothermia and cancelled the whole thing.
@@ChromeCobra420 Trust me, I let people do what they want even if I don't like it. But I have to draw the line at a guy who uses haunt attractions to fill out some sort of sadistic fantasy! Dude gave haunted houses a bad name because of how popular it got in the news. I'm not even against the idea of extreme haunts that rough you up a bit, but it was the violation of safe words and the fact that in the Netflix documentary, he made a couple people keep going even though they could no longer mentally/physically continue, that made me realize this dude has gone too far. Plus, there's the fact that ex-workers and former guests have come forward and claimed he had his followers harass them when they spoke out. So yeah, I think I'm gonna advise people to not go there. But go on and do his backyard boot camp, I'm literally not going to stop you.
My dad used to run a "home haunt" during Halloween and just stopped a few years ago. He would go all out, he had several animatronic dummies and decorations that were crazy to everyone who also grew up in a tiny town in southern IL. He owned a totaled police car and ambulance that he would stage in the yard to make it look like some kind of murderous disaster was happening. Ambulance lights and noises would flare as my aunt laid on a stretcher covered in fake blood just waiting to pop up and scare some kids to death. My 6'9" brother would dress up as Michael Myers and slowly wander around the yard while carrying a knife, never jumping out, just slowly walking. All in the while a dance remix of the Halloween theme song played in the background. God that was my favorite night of the year as a kid 😭
"I will be cold in the dirt before I snitch on someone for tax evasion." The strong code of ethics of this man is a primary reason for why I love the channel so much.
Snitching is sometimes a good thing though so many stitches have saved, lives by being willing to risk their ass, getting beaten to report a murder case or something
@@tubbs2132 I mean not for tax evasion, of course cause it’s not like you’re really hurting anyone except the government but they have a ton of money already. But as soon as you start, robbing banks, murdering people, raping people, etc I’m not just gonna keep that to myself.
There's something so...creepy about how McKamey can shrug off the fact they had a heart attack on his own property and his response is just "that's good footage". He really did become obsessed with wanting to look "scary".
He could've just embellished a minor episode or completely fabricated the heart attack story though, just for the sake of looking scary. If nothing else, we've learned not to take anything he says at face value...
@L I’m pretty sure being obsessed to the point of ignoring a heart attack is not the same thing. Jesus 🙄 you really can say the most plainly understandable statement and still have idiots online struggle with it
@@colinjensen8303 if people actually died there, I'm sure wendigoon would have actually brought that up and emphasised it in the vid. I swear so many people in this comment section totally fell for his persona of evil guy or didn't actually watch the vid. Learn internet literacy, people can make up and say anything they want easily, proof is what matters.
@@CryptidFlame Someone shouldn't have to die to care about the actual possibility of someone having had a medical emergency, goofy. Heart attacks aren't inherently fatal. If it did happen, it's a fucking weird way to talk about it from both a business and human perspective, and if it didn't, it's an awfully pathetic way to get cheap outrage.
I love how the intro segment is probably the angriest we will ever see Wendigoon get, and its almost weird seeing that come out in the calmest way possible. Great video as always. please keep up the good work and heres hoping to the movie!
Love the increasing absurdity of the waiver, was half expecting it to conclude with “participant fully understands and agrees they may be forced to run down a length of road. It is the participant’s responsibility to remain calm and slow down to avoid running into a wall which is painted to resemble a tunnel”
Participants may find themselves suddenly beyond the edge of a cliff. At that point it is the participant's personal responsibility to pause in the air for the appropriate amount of time, and extract from wherever upon their body they are carrying it the previously provided desperation sign to hold up for the camera. There may or may not be sufficient dust at the point of impact to provide a softening cloud, depending upon this theatrical cooperation.
“Participant fully understands and agrees to being forced to play "Those Endearing Little Charms" on a rigged piano where the C note key is rigged with dynamite.”
Participant fully understands that Mckamey Manor staff will shoot them with a cartoonish, rubberhose animation style gun and that the participant’s face may become amusingly rearranged.
I just saw an anti-McKamey Manor meme on Facebook reposted by my friend, and he mentioned your video! It's just nice to bond with friends over good UA-cam content. I hope you're able to go back to that house haunt this year. I used to go to Netherworld every year with my father and brother--it was a tradition that I sadly think it's dying out, but I'm trying to keep it going. I love the artistry and the joy of Halloween with real haunted attractions. I remember when my church had one when I was growing up. I miss it. It was so much fun working in it. Thank you for all the wonderful videos you've made, Wendigoon. Happy Halloween! 💙💙
The Manor will be a major chapter in his episode of "Snapped" on Oxygen channel.... (How weird is it that the network which was founded by *_OPRAH_* & made "for women, by women," after being sold off, under current network owners, has become a true-crime broadcast network?!?! The content of which is largely that of real attacks on and murders of women..)
I have said the the same thing. He's a serial killer at heart and found a way of fulfilling his fantasy of torturing people and once that loses its thrill for him he would cross that line and kill someone. Then TRY to have that joke of a waiver protect him and hold up in court, or he would flat out just start going out and randomly killing people
According to people who live near him, his wife divorced him a few years ago and most of the money went with her. He now works at the local Walmart in the town he lives in in Tennessee, but he stills runs a small version of the manor that’s referred to as “The Bootcamp” in a barn and three shipping containers. It’s really just so he can tortue people at this point
@@avery_is_here9054 have you been watching the @recklessben stuff on the manor, because I feel like you'd get a kick out of it if you have a few hours, it's quite the saga and it's really getting juicy with a hard drive full of footage that is illegal because it's simply not lawful to contract someone into torture regardless of the word salad presented on paper, and if any real evidence of torture were to exist, it would absolutely sink him... supposedly, we're still waiting on that episode to come out lol
As someone whose favorite animals are tarantulas... I'm not a fan of them being used as 'props'. And eating live insects. I know most people see them as like, inanimate trash, but they're still living creatures. :/
I like jumping spiders. Tarantulas are... okay. They are cool, but I'm scared of bugs. Especially big ones. But I know they are living, if I have to kill a bug I usually try to get it over with, I won't torture them or hit them repeatedly if it's dead. Though, I am kind of harsh on roaches and mosquitos (female, the bloodsucking ones) Roaches remind me of a bad time in my life and scare me, mosquitos I'm allergic to. I do see (some) bugs as living creatures so it unfortunate they are living and used as props. (I know all bugs are living, but some bother me so much I'd rather them just die.) Sorry I wrote a lot, I just wrote what was on my mind and what was relevant. I'd like to know, why is your favorite creature the tarantula?
@@MBiz. Tarantulas are my favorite animals for a few reasons. For one, they are extremely harmless. Like, the only confirmed deaths from tarantula bites are due to other health complications the person had where the tarantula bite effected them much worse than usual. New Worlds (Tarantulas in the americas) in particular have basically no venom, the bite itself hurts more than the venom injected into you. Old Worlds (tarantulas from everywhere else) have more potent venom but it's not going to kill you or anything. There's also a ton of different species with their own traits and behaviors and appearances. My favorite is probably the G. Pulchra. It's a pretty big and harmless species that is jet black and looks adorable. The hairs on its abdomen are the most annoying part, since if it feels threatened it will rub them off with its hind legs to disperse in the air. And have you ever breathed in a dog or cat hair? Imagine that, but worse. It's their main defense mechanism. I also seriously love the M. Balfouri. It's the only species that thrives in a community. Tarantulas are a pretty solitary species but the M. Balfouri will gladly share its space with others of the same eggsac as long as they're raised together and never separated. And the M. Balfouri webs... a lot... so their enclosures look really damn cool. Tarantulas also have nice lifespans. Males of any given species only live like 3-5 years but females live upwards of 12+. Which I personally think is a nice lifespan for a pet, unlike something like a tortoise that is still going to be around when your kid's kids have kids. It's also just one of the few animals kept in captivity that does genuinely thrive there vs in the wild. Tarantulas lay several hundred eggs in their eggsacs and... there's a reason they're not everywhere. A small puddle drowns them, a light rainfall drowns them, falling a foot breaks their abdomens, birds eat them, etcetera. Even in captivity a lot of species struggle to make it to adulthood cause they're just so damn fragile, but way more thrive in captivity than in the wild. Tarantulas are almost blind, and even the burrowers that don't lay down much lweb still put strands all around their hideout and the outside of their hideout to use as trip-wires so they know when food walks by for them to pounce on. And they literally will only EVER leave their space if they're chased away from it or if it's a mature male on the prowl for a female. So they're also one of the only pets where being in a 20 gallon terrarium allows them to live the exact same life they would've in the open wild. (well, they live better, cause like, no predators.) Sorry for how long this became. I could honestly ramble on for hours about tarantulas.
The best kind of family relative cause he'll tell you these stories then invite you to tag along with him in the spring to hunt skinwalkers and bigfoot.
@@pliskenx51mm83 me and my uncle wendigoon watching the skinless eldritch horror that we just shot down crawl painfully across the backyard while screeching and yowling
25:35 After hearing most of the waiver, I am now completely convinced that McKaney Manor is NOT a haunted house experience. But rather a "Dumb Ways to Die" Death Game Tournament with a Grand Prize of $20,000 at the end. This is just a glorified, less dignified Squid Game. It's like if Jigsaw decided to capitalize on his psychotic narcissism and makes a show out of his elaborate murder contraptions.
No, because a Jigsaw show would actually be funny at first, and at least not ENTIRELY fucked up. Just a little puppet explaining how this contrived death machine works and why Terry Jenkins over here is being put in it after stabbing his wife to death. Then you get to grab your popcorn and see if he'll get spikes driven through his eyes.
don't forget about the fact that he doesn't even give you the money.. when you're about to win he cancels the show. it's literally just risking your life for nothing.
@@Nickel_EyeYeah, a money hungry scumbag. Its not worth 29,000 dollars in medical charges, than 20,000. Someone once paid more for medical stuff than they were gonna be “paid” if they won. Some American Veteran went about 6 hours in or more and was so close to winning but scumbag owner here said “No he’s gone through enough..”
Just a small correction: The drug tests actually have a purpose. It’s the same reason they ask you about drug use before surgery: your body responds with adrenaline to any significant injury, raising your heart rate, blood pressure etc. so somebody who’s ingested a bunch of cocaine, methamphetamine, any kind of stimulant before being literally tortured is at a drastically higher risk of complications like heart failure or other medical events. Those on-site drug tests are generally pretty reliable at detecting substances that the person may have ingested recently enough to be dangerous, so there’s definitely sound reasoning behind it, it’s not just a scare tactic *TL:DR: the drug tests make sure the person isn’t going to die from the torture*
That could be awfully hypocritical if some of the rumors I’ve heard about them are true. Some of his videos are legitimately concerning when it comes to multiple things besides just sadism. Thank you so much though for clarifying.
Dude I seriously wonder what one of those “personalized experiences” would look like for me. My biggest fears are no one actually loving me and the bass clarinet.
He knows that we come back not only for the information but also for delivery. He has great narrative style that makes you feel as if you were listening to your friends by a campfire.
Hi! Haunt Worker here, I’m not sure if he came across this in your research or not, but something you forgot to mention as well as that a lot of the actors he hired at least in the beginning or in the 2010s, A LOT of them had sexual harassment issues. McKamey claims that he’s not in it for the sexual reasons but a lot of victims and interviews claim that some of the workers would molest and/or mutilate their genitals. Sick shit. And it was usually covered up or paid off by Russ himself I hate that the manor has put such a bad reputation of Haunts. Because in actuality were just a bunch of fun weird people that put on masks and want to scare people. Sure you can go out of your way to dunk blood and eat exotic roaches but it comes down to…Why?
seriously, some of the things reported that go on there are just horrible. consent violations everywhere. calling mckamey manor a haunt is straight up insulting to haunts and haunt workers everywhere
I heard of this as well. It's bonkers how the bs waiver forbids swearing and yet there's so much stuff on workers molesting female attendees and throwing all sorts of nasty sexual harassment at just about everyone. I don't think McKamey is motivated by any fetishy or sexual reasons at all but it doesn't take a genius to recognize how some sick fucks could take advantage of the lax policies at the manor and take this opportunity to go absolutely ham with groping and molesting
Another thing I saw was a documentary where he admitted he had real murderers, Im not sure if it was real or what it is called but if I find it again i will post the link
@@kongzare7228 ive seen that too! or at least ive seen claims that he was purposely employing people with violent criminal records including murder.. which i mean obviously people w records deserve jobs still but when its purposeful for a job that is basically just a torturer then thats gross as fuck
It's heartwarming to hear you laugh so much while making this, it made those moments all the more hilarious. Also glad McKamey is wheelchair accessible. 😂
There's no way this dude isn't some kind of a sick fetishist. Extreme haunted houses are okay but there should ALWAYS be an option for a safe word/to quit if it gets too much. We have a haunted house in Poland that has different levels and I think the highest level also allows the staff to potentially harm you but I don't think it's anything as bad, I'd imagine maybe punching at worst.
totally agree, the idea of taking pride in not having a safe word totally gives off the vibe of either 1. I'm not into BDSM stuff that's for sadistic sickos and sex freaks or 2. I would love to be accepted by the BDSM community but I think consent is for pussies and I've been blacklisted by subs one too many times because I literally abused them and didn't take no for an answer
@@dylanmonstrum1538 because consent is something that can be revoked at any time, it’s a key tenant of things like BDSM communities and even professional fighting, if someone taps out they tap out and the person inflicting an action on them does not have the right to continue anyway; as soon as that continues it is no longer consensual anyway Folding Ideas’ video about 50 shades of gray cover this idea really well and why that book is reviled by people who enjoy bondage
@@dylanmonstrum1538 that's the same line of thinking of "they gave consent at the beginning so I should get to do what I want" consent can be taken away at any time.
As a haunt actor, this is no haunt. This is hell. Literal hell. If I were ever given an opportunity to work there I’d deny it immediately because the things they do to people here are disgusting
It’s a cover. Look up Mr hands and the farm that was famous among a specific “Community”. Those Californian fruits love their covers for their depraved sex dungeons. The guy owning a lot of dogs stuck out. They were doing disgusting things with those dogs guaranteed.
The female haunt actress tearing up and voice getting shaky when she said she was quitting her job there because she was afraid to be around him.... That was real and frightening I wonder if he did something to her (and other workers) and they can't/won't speak up about it due to the supposed blackmail mentioned in that video....
The blackmail they kept mentioning is incredibly worrying! And the fact that they don’t feel safe around him. INCREDIBLY scary things to say about this man regarding everything around him. Until seeing that clip I thought he was a mostly harmless, if sadistic, weirdo. Now I’m not so sure…..
She's an actor trying to hype him up!! Otherwise why not do the interview without him standing there? Why is she still there if he's "so scary". That was horrible acting and I cannot believe anyone fell for it.
🤣 i think this guy is just kinda a nerdy enthusiast with cringy ideas and everyone is falling for it. Especially that blonde actress "fear" skit with him right there lol. I can't believe y'all are buying that! Now he's got everyone convinced he's a sadist irl. You drank the coolaid ppl. Gotta give him props for getting y'all to fall for such silly and obvious scare tactics lol. He's probably the nicest d0rk in the world who dreamed of being a scare legend. 😆
One of my calls as a brand new medic was at a haunted house. It was an amusement park haunted house, and people were searched before coming in. Guy got in with a gun and when he got scared shot the actor 6 or 7 times
What mckamey manor employees probably don’t understand is you can read and sign a waiver but in the moment your primal instincts will kick in when someone is trying to drown you..and you could very well kill them as a way of protecting yourself. This is why that clause existed of no items allowed. However……these employees are awful. And the only humans capable of torturing others like this are humans who are most likely to end up killing someone in real society.
An actor may shoot a participant point blank in the face with a real gun with real bullets. It is the participant's responsibility to not bleed out and die. If death occurs the tour will stop immediately no questions asked, however we will continue the tour if we believe the participant is in a panicked state of mind. We here at MM only have your best interests in mind.
Personally, I would say NO to anything involving my teeth/dental procedures. It's my only big fear. Second, no drugging or sedation. That clause in the contract about being drugged with hallucinogens is so scary... If I'm sedated, how could I possibly use a safe word? Just the thought gives me the willies.
Taking control over someone even if it isn't "sexual" can still be a fetish. Essentially, he is dominating others for his personal pleasure like you said, which is what a fetish is. He definitely was not the most ethical character and clearly did this stuff for his personal benefit and enjoyment vs providing an experience for others to remember or to cause them to be a better person like he made it out to be in sub context.
@@rainbowscarface2496 I don't think the thing is that the waiver isn't real, but rather that it wouldn't hold up in court if someone decided to challenge Russ on his abuse in certain areas when it comes to giving up consent during a time of duress like he tries to rationalize. Yet if Russ was caught breaking anything in his agreement he would definitely be in big trouble as he is not under duress at all during the situation and therefore he couldn't blame his behavior on something like not understanding what he was getting into. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer, but I am just making my best guess.
@@damegataco well technically he did break the waivers rules the supposed mole guy who used the safe word and Russ said fuck that were still gonna beat the shit out of you for a few more hours though I think the mole guy didn’t do anything because he did that as some type of stunt to scare off the haters he was so upset about like if you try anything he did I’ll beat your ass
@@zanderlavastory its ironic how he pushes the narrative that you’re a whimp if you can’t pass the manor or use the safe word but he himself is too much of a whimp to pass or even try his own challenge
You know, as I was listening to all this I was thinking, "I could never do that," because I don't like pain and stuff. But I also got to thinking, "Did no one ever complete it because no on trained to deal with this kind of abuse ever tried?" Like I was imagining what would happen if someone went in and just didn't give the kinds of reactions Russ was looking for. Then you got the part where the marine guy went in and essentially got kicked out before time was up because he probably would have come through it all and I just had the most satisfied grin on my face.
Pretty sure there was a thing where a Marine guy went into this kind of 'haunted house' and got kicked out or whatever because he wasn't fazed or some shit.
a marine was about to beat it but this dude said “nah we have to stop, it’s too much for u” and the marine guy was like “no, i’m fine. i want my prize” but mkamey stopped it anyways
I firmly believe that nobody has completed it because russ doesn’t want to pay out. The marine guy is a prime example. He was kicked out right before he finished. Something is clearly up.
Well for me, my two no go's are clear. 1. In full agreement with the goon himself, swearing is off the table. And 2. I just have to say no to the gross disrespect for basic traffic laws
A bunch of masked assailants manhandle you into an unmarked van, then pause for thirty seconds to put you in a seat and ensure your belt is fastened securely before continuing to assault you
There was another "extreme haunted house" I saw that was more of like "a zombie virus has broken out" and you would get in for free, you'd watch this movie of sorts with some stage scares, and then it was random if you got pulled into it as someone who was "infected" and it was funny because some of it was like "you'll be sprayed with strange chemicals" and I think it was literally just vinegar and warm water to make you smell kinda bad.
Lmao. There's also 17th door, it's popular on UA-cam as many famous creators went through it and called it the scariest. They do some extreme stuff, but with actual waivers, FULL acknowledgement of safewords, and they aren't giving people false hope of winning money
Between the part about name-calling in the waiver, and the "manor" just turning into physical labor after covid and the actors dropping out, this place seems perfect for sketch comedy parodies. Like one where the driver of the kidnapping van tells everyone to buckle up. Then one where one of the actors says a swear while verbally abusing the participant, and everyone else is disgusted. Then after lockdown, it's just the owner making people do yard work with a cage on their head.
Eh. I assume that McKamey is one of those "A REAL MAN SUFFERS FROM VIOLENT MENTAL ILLNESSES THAT HE REFUSES TO THREAT BECAUSE ONLY SISSIES WANT TO BE MENTALLY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" people
I'm sure she was paid for that to make him look like a scary guy. If it were real, the interview wouldn't have been done with him standing right next to her.
"I know how to turn off that chainsaw. I don't know if he knows how to turn off the chainsaw. And that's what life's really about, isn't it?" 10/10 quote
I was a scare actor last season at a relatively well known haunted house in Texas and a couple of veteran employees talked to some of the newbies about this place and how terrible it was, it's some crazy shit, absolutely terrible, haunts are meant to be a scary experience, not basically torture
“I know how to turn off a chainsaw, but I don’t know if he knows how to turn off a chainsaw.” Absolutely killed me. I’ve been obsessed with this haunted mess for years, and I’m so happy you covered everything I know and more in this! Also, as someone who lives in one of the betting locations he listed, hell no. No tourist trap would be caught dead having people bet on this.
When you said "shooting you up with hallucinagenics? You can't do that just because it's on a piece of paper!" It reminded me so much of that scene in parks and rec. "Not to worry, I have a permit" "This just says 'I can do what I want'"
*I'm writing this before finishing the video* I was always skeptical that this was a "haunted house". It's not unrealistic to assume some people could make it past 8 hours in a scary haunted house. But when you see clips of just waterboarding and suffocation, it's clear that people aren't tapping out because they're scared, they're tapping out because they're being physically tortured. I would give up too if I signed up for a haunted house and instead got Thai prison torture.
I don't know why but the part where you said "if I could ask Russ McKamey one question it would probably be: was it worth it?" hit so hard. Like I guess it just was a good way to finish off having people look at it not just from the perspective of "oh this guy ran this terrible place" but instead more of an idea of "McKamey lost sight of why haunts are made, and he slowly just fed into that feeling more and more until there was almost no resemblance to what he was once passionate about". Thank you for making this video, it was a really good watch.
i work at fear farm as a scare actor (it’s pretty standard experience with about 4 haunted houses and then a corn maze) and we aren’t permitted to touch anyone and trust me if you’re a talented scare actor you can give anyone a good scary adrenaline rush without even having to touch let alone torture them
@@rushbiskitIts not that he sucks at scaring, its that he isn't interested in scaring he just wants to torture. He has a torture kink so its torture porn to him. He gets off to videos of this stuff.
This just makes me feel bad for the last time I went to a haunt. I have anxiety and other icky little mental illnesses, and so by like halfway through, I ended up covering my ears and just saying "hello :)" to all of them. At one point I was in a hospital theme area and a girl popped out of a window and I'm like "ong you have braces me too" I'm literally dumb
There's a far more sinister reason (on top of manipulation) for him including 'fake' things in the waiver. Specifically he allows you to choose two 'no gos', ONLY two things that he absolutely will not do. By including fake events/scenarios that by no means will happen he's increasing the likelihood that you'll select his fake-outs as your two 'no go' options, allowing him to do whatever the hell he wants to you. There's a reason the fake shit is the most extreme/life threatening as well, it's to try and psychologically steer you away from the less extreme, but still horrible things that are far more likely to happen. Glad this dude's life is basically ruined and he works as a Wal-Mart cashier, it's a miracle nobody was killed at his self indulgent sadist's circus.
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@@obiwankenobi6143 General Kenobi!
Hello.
YES I’ve been hoping you would cover this, I love your storytelling
@@obiwankenobi6143 Jedi!
as a wheelchair user, i for one am thrilled to know mckamey manor is accessible.
Yes, everyone is tortured equally, without discrimination. Much wholesome.
Jokes aside though, I wonder if they ever had a wheelchair user go through the haunt.
@@biorose1210 i wonder that myself.
Im guessing theyre going to make you walk as a torture.
@@MonBerry considering i would break my legs it would be effective
I LOVE the “no foul language” policy. Just imagine you’re getting the crap beat out of you, suffocated, yelled at, then you just say “fuck” and they all go “WHOA WHOA WHOA you went too far, you’re outta here buddy.”
They've done it before XD yet they can have some lady almost drown and be fine with if
so there is some sort of safe word after all!
ua-cam.com/video/ahkhyU8K3Dw/v-deo.html
I can only imagine that in-between the screams of agony and maniacal laughs you'll hear someone go "Oh dear" and "Get me out o the frickin place"
Wholesome content only.
(Also see dog at 50:46 )
I love the wendigoon trope where instead of mystifying the bad person he just calls them a dumb loser.
As we all should do tbh.
it's becoming more and more common in true crime circles to just remind the audience that serial killers/murderers/famous criminals are almost always just big, dumb morons who think they're better than everybody else.
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thats why he's the best. no fluff no fanfare, just unabashedly calls them what they are.
Sometimes just simply calling someone a loser hits em hard
I went to a haunted house in Virginia with my dad once, and the guy chasing us yelled “LEAVING SO SOON, THATS PRETTY RUDE” and that tapped into my primal fear of being a bad guest
LMFAO??
What next, did they yell at you for not taking your shoes off in the mudroom?
😭😭😭
I'm crying!! 😂😂
The true southern horror. Not some psycho with a chainsaw or a cult masquerading as a megachurch, just forgetting one's manners.
I think the reason people tap out "after 8 minutes" is because they expect some grand scary haunted house and instead just get a demented old man beating them up and start to realize this is gonna be just this dude getting his rocks off for 10 hours
"alright, 5 minutes of that guy jerking off in the corner whole I get brutalized was ok but 8 minutes is a bit too much" then they all just walk out "alright man, we tried but that's all we got"
They dont expect it at all. The wait list is over a year long with a 40+ page waiver. You also need to show proof via a psych evaluation that you are mentally competent to go through it.
@@casualpeen we know. we watched the video too
@@syraxiis8692 I'm responding to the original comment.
@@casualpeen you dont know how many people would just skip it all, cause most people would just skip it all
I feel like it’s way more impressive for a haunted house to convince a participant that they’re in extreme danger rather than straight up putting them in danger and torturing them.
haunted houses make you feel fear with fake things, and give you the illusion of extreme danger. extreme haunted houses still give you a somewhat illusion of extreme danger, and there is danger. MM takes away any illusion and puts you in *extreme* danger. i mean- there are just so so many layers to this place. like- an insane amount of layers. but i do not consider this a haunted house. this is a torture chamber.
Yes. 100%
@@imjustasconfusedasyou lol you basically just reworded the original comment 😆
@@rosemadder5547
oh lol ig i didn’t notice
Exactly
McKamey may say his manor is his lifeblood, but from looking at his website, you can tell that graphic design is his passion
Navigating that website is a kind of torture, he's very committed to his work.
god it really is terrible
@@ripperbasil1229 Alllllllrighty guess I'm not going to go find it then.
@our hero I disliked your video, don't do that it's cringe
@@criscojesus4378 dislikes still help videos and thats probably a bot
I like how it goes from "oh it's just a really scary haunted house it can't actually hurt you" to "it's literally torture" back to "it's just scare tactics"
I love how one of the waiver requirements was that the participant agrees they aren’t an undercover agent. I just think of him getting busted by an undercover cop and as he’s being carted away, he’s just shouting out: “But you signed the waiver!”
LMAO I thought the same like he really thought a waiver was gonna stop anything?
‘You’re not a cop are ya? Ya gotta tell me if you’re a cop’
Like a 14 year old just getting into smoking weed telling everyone it’s entrapment if you ask a cop if they’re a cop and they say no. Lmao
@pyropulse this has nothing to do with my comment. There’s nothing against the law saying a cop has to confirm they’re a cop. And you’re lucky because they’ll search your car regardless most times. All they gotta do is get a dog and have it fake alert and they have probable cause. Been through it many times. You seem young. Stop thinking you know everything please
@pyropulse your entire comment just sounds like a rambling 10 year old.
I had absolutely no desire to go to McKamey Manor while seeing the footage and listening to the description of the waiver, but after learning that McKamey Manor is handicap accessible and is free of foul language, I'm ready to sign up!
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Thank gosh there’s no cursing in that fine establishment! I should bring my kids!
This torture chamber is surprisingly wholesome. To quote Monty Python: “Biggles! Bring out… the COMFY CHAIR!”
@@HazardousClimI don't think getting beat half to death is "wholesome".
@@LordScrunglI don’t think you got the joke
McKamey really just said "The real $20,000 dollars is the friends we made along the way" near the end
this was so funny to me
this is the funniest comment I’ve seen so far omg
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMFAO
OMG NO, NOT THAT SAYING! 🤣
I’m a scare actor in a haunt (Baxter Avenue Morgue in Louisville, KY), and I can’t stand the number of times people have asked me “Is that the one where they make you sign a waiver so they can torture you?” I’ll never forgive Russ for being a stain on the industry the way he has been and apparently still is after calling it quits
He’s in jail for assault on his wife now
@@Bigtobacco6na he wasn't able to get her to sign the waiver in time
@@Kevin-ez4orLMAO
Mckamey waiver: You are in no real danger and everything is just a fun game.
Also Mckamey waiver: Participant understands that they may be forced to skydive without a parachute, and it is their responsibility to make it to the ground safely, and if the participant fails to do so MM cannot be held responsible.
Cannot be held libel*
Just do the old gta trick and hope you get it first try
@@SirSaladAss at least you tried
I haven’t watched the full video, but there are numerous reports of the safe word not being respected AT ALL and basically being tortured and permanently disfigured for hours and hours, totally non-consensually
@@Happyfaceshock well then that sounds very... not nice...
A creepypasta where it’s the mcamey manor waiver but things just keep getting progressively weirder
Like warnings about radioactivity, extinct animals, dimensional bleeds, demons, time travel
This would be an awesome SCP
@@Suprkpa my thoughts exactly. Shades of the interdimensional nightclub log.
Turns out its just training to work for the SCP
the only "rules" genre creepypasta i would actually enjoy
Ok now you get to explain what dimensional bleeds are
I've been through a lot of haunts, escape rooms, survival horror attractions, and others. However, that manor has been the only place that my crew collectively blacklisted. One of my friends went for it, and he told us that it was not worth it. Its genuinely painful, my friend got multiple bruises and a broken nose. Calling it a haunted house is like calling a Jurassic park a petting zoo
It's a torture house if anything
@@el3ctroshock yeah exactly it's like hours and hours worth of psychological torture! That's the part that's the worst is the fact that it doesn't let up for hours. That sounds exhausting just thinking about it. I wouldn't want to go through a normal haunted house that took hours to get through! Frankly I believe it's the length of the house versus what actually happens there. If he were to cut it down to 1 hour or 2 hours there would be a lot of people who would pass it. And if it was just your average run of the mill haunted house but it took like 12 hours to get through most people wouldn't pass it.
I wonder if anyone has actually "snapped" while in there and fully lashed out at people for hurting/torturing them too far. Like imagine if someone went absolutely crazy and started swinging at the people trying to haunt them
@@beebeebs2743 i don't think so, in the waiver it says you can't fight with the actors so probably no one have done it
@@yazminlares6000 a waiver wouldn't mean shit if someone snapped... that was the point of my comment. I'd imagine that it would probably be so bad for some people that they would just lose it in there
"this is just a game" John Kramer explaining his practices to police
I have always assumed that the "no swearing" rule is another way for him to avoid ever paying out. If someone does swear, and most people would, he can take it all the way to the end and then refuse to pay because they broke the rules. Like Willy Wonka screaming about Charlie stealing fizzy lifting drinks.
unexpected but perfect analogy
Supposedly there’s a $500 deduction with every failed challenge or instance of profanity
i thought that since he uploads it to UA-cam, he wouldn't want it demonetized (if its even monetized)
@@justarandomuser8434 Demonetisation for swearing or violence has only been a thing on UA-cam for a couple years. When he was uploading regularly that wasn't a thing.
@@alanamuir oh, didn't know when he stopped uploading
wendigoon saying "dont worry guys im not going to read the whole thing" and then sitting down for 20 minutes to read the entire thing is EXACTLY why i watch this channel
He turned a joke into probably the most important part of the video
@@Daveaintreal skill
Same
It’s a sales tactic to get you to actually listen to it 😂 “don’t worry I’m not in sales” then proceeds to pitch them or build rapport 😂
He was talking about how he wasn’t gonna do it I was sitting there “don’t you lie to me. Ik you are”
This makes me think that McKamey lost. His "attraction" is no longer about scaring people, it's about pain and endurance. I can be scared shitless without anyone ever touching me, while I sit in a comfortable house - this is the art of horror. His haunted house lacks it, it's just making people suffer physically. Anyone can do that.
This is how I feel about gore movies too. Feeling fear and being disgusted are not the same.
@@Vampress09 That's a fair stance. I don't get scared by movies personally (or really any media, real life is way scarier), so I find a sort of joyful catharsis in splatter flicks. Still not that fun little tinge of fear, but at least giddiness over cheesy practical effects and over the top kills. But I get how some could see them as a cheap and tasteless alternative to something more...psychologically stimulating..
@@Vampress09 I feel like gore itself isn't inherently horror, it can be used in horror media, where the goal is usually to disturb someone or establish whatever is, you know, ripping people apart as a threat and something to be scared of. But some "horror" media that involves gore, I actually don't really consider horror - Final Destination doesn't feel like horror to me, it feels almost like what I'd call an action movie, depsite being labelled as a horror.
Anyway, using it on its own is usually really cheap, and doesn't require much talent. It's like how there was that effective jumpscare in Jaws, with the corpse, that also serves to establish the shark as a serious threat, but jumpscares in many other horror movies are just a loud noise and something that pops out of nowhere. Horror, to me, is like putting all these pieces together in a puzzle that will thoroughly creep out or disturb the audience, not throwing in various individual elements without knowing what you're doing.
Small horror rant, don't mind me...
@@cranberryrosebud I agree! (Fictional) Gore by itself isn't scary, what makes it scary is a story behind it, the context, the atmosphere, and the importance it has in emphasizing an element of the story. (Fictional) Gore content isn't bad though, it is cool in its own way, but a lot of producers forget just throwing guts out there isn't scary
@@Vampress09 Exactly atmosphere will always get me over gore.
I've survived cancer, and almost loosing my arm to it; plus I used to be a medical worker so I just go into work mode.
Give me a Guirellmo del Toro vibe to a scene and lightly graze my arm and whisper in my ear I'll be much more afraid.
Yes Mr McKamey, I'm deathly afraid of puppies, kittens, cold beer, and barely clothed beautiful women!! Those are my biggest bugaboos.
amen 🙏
Yes i. Terrified of being left alone in a dark room and im horribly afraid of head phones and greenday.
@@carnivorouspikachu6604 mr mckamey my sleep paralysis demon is billie joe armstrong please don’t make me meet him in person
Spare me Mr McKamey I came here just for the experience I'm actually terrified of even the idea of finishing the $20,000 challenge
OMG same. I'm also terrified of good healthcare and tiramisu
I appreciate the “It’s your responsibility to breathe underwater”
Everyone needs a guy who always holds you accountable for your own life
If I drown because they tied me up and threw me in a river thats my own fault fr. I should've just swam
@@MadWatcherbro left his totem of undying at home 💀
Let me go borrow gills from my friend
how do people drown??? like just drink the water bro
The whole place is just fake. Reckless Ben just finished a whole series debunking the Manor. The owner has a torture kink and is flat broke. No one can get the $20,000 because it doesn't exist. He backs out if the contestant doesn't.
Yes thank you they need to stop promoting this clown hes a fraud
I was looking for at least one comment about Ben's series!
boost this comment, guys
Exactly. Just watched those videos. Those guys did everything they could to get them to ACTUALLY put them through the "Extreme Haunted House" didn't happen.
It was ridiculous.
It's a total scam. And the guy doesn't even make money off his scam, he just makes dog food....
Boost
Participant: *uses safe word*
McKamey: let’s torture him some more
Participant: darn
McKamey: Get him out of here!
lol, this
Gets damn near water boarded: “Gee Wilikers!”
Russ: *horrified gasps*
@@galactic.cl0ud im imagining some squeaky voiced 13 year old getting fucking DESTROYED in a haunted house and then he screams "oh my gosh!" then everyone starts screaming and sprinting away
This is a Christian house of torture, heathens are not welcome
@@frid7434 ninja what?????
$20,000 is not even close enough to pay for the medical bills cause there ain't no way insurance is gonna pay for something you signed up for.
Really depends. A waiver can't get them out of malicious harm (a crime. You can't consent to someone else committing a crime)
As someone who has been in the haunted attraction industry for about a decade, most of us don’t like this guy, and a lot of people don’t even consider what he does to be worth calling a haunted house. This place and places like it are why so many people refuse to go through haunts and they really give the industry a bad name.
Its not a haunted attraction. It's fear factor with a bullshit plot Russ tries to make you believe is real. Starting with the "Waiver"
As someone who's grown up in a HAUNT family, I can 100% agree with this statement. Gives normal haunts a very bad reputation purely because Russ is a narcissistic masochist
Hey, haunt fam! Just came looking for y'all to wish you happy build season!
This was one of the first "haunted houses" I had heard of and it made me never want to go to a haunted house. Then I realized normal haunted houses are a lot of fun
@@hunterjames8556 *sadist, masochist likes to get hurt himself not to hurt others
McKamey could’ve had something really good here, had he actually focussed on nuance instead of one-upping himself. The idea of a personalized haunted house that is customized to exploit your personal fears is incredibly interesting, if only it were performed in a classic haunted house format rather than a glorified torture chamber.
Problem is he's a sadist that does this for personal reasons, especially after Carol left him and he had even MORE brain surgeries.
Not that I would ever do this, but nobody is going to go through all this effort for a pretty normal haunted house experience.
@@FrenkieWest32 there are nearly 8 billion people on earth and some of them are very rich, it wouldn't be a normal experience either if it was personalized and high budget :P
@@chadandersen6590 while this is true, I think the reason people were going for mckamey manor is because they were thrill seekers looking for an extreme experience. I doubt there's many people who are going to go out of their way significantly for a personalized but normal haunted house experience. Let's not forget that it's quite low budget. It would probably be an old apartment building with some dolls and costumes reflecting your specific fear or whatever. It's not some super fancy experience.
That's kinda the reason why places like Halloween Horror Nights have multiple haunted houses.
There is usually a clown themed one, one with spiders, one with tight spaces, you get the point.
The dude's like a cult leader! Makes visitors defend him online and has his following attack anyone with criticism. So glad you made this video!
What are you talking about?
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@@jaygged6472 don't click the link.
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@@beautyonabarnbudget He wasn't replying to the bot
@@jaygged6472 Russ. Watch other creators' accounts of their time in MM, he manipulates them into being defenders of his projects online.
As a long time haunted house actor and general lover of Halloween attractions, I can say full well, most haunters outright hate this place and the bad reputation it gives to the craft, and based on what is broken down here, the sour feelings are not unfounded. That said, the story at the end made me super happy to hear. My current haunt is a home grown "Barn Haunt" a local family has run for a decade that has grown to a proper small buisness as a pop up parking lot haunt and i am so hapoy to be part of their own growth
I’d argue that’s it’s not even horror oriented, it’s torture oriented like nothing in this is about horror, it’s all about pain and abuse. Again, idfk much about the industry, I’m a nobody from California but still
I like how he recorded the waiver part in different times of the day because when it suddenly changed it just felt like he was going through the waiver for so long that it eventually became night.
I like to think that he *did* spend the whole afternoon reading it
The kind of terms and conditions (waiver) you don't want to just skim before accepting.
@@bleakautomaton4808 it's fake so it doesn't really matter
@@launchbase4944 Lol ik
Wendigoon could literally read legal papers for half an hour and I'd still watch.
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@@ZombiesEatShrooms2 he reads legal papers for half an hour in this video
Hey everyone, just wanted to mention that the audio is a little echoey in the first section of the video. I didn't realize until I was editing and tried to fix it as much as I could, but hopefully it's not unbearable and you can suffer through the first part. Thank you all so much for being here and showing the channel so much support, you all are a real blessing.
Also, pls check out the movie's kickstarter.
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Hello there
Better step it up old man
Mr Guy you cool
maybe i'm dumb but i swear there's no echo
Fun fact, waivers don't actually absolve you from criminal activity. If you're going to a haunted house and you have to sign a waiver that says you may be injured or hassled or assaulted, that doesn't mean you can't sue them if you get injured. Like for example, if one of the actors were to beat you with a baseball bat. You could most definitely file a criminal complaint. Have that person arrested and sue McKamey. That's a fact.
The amount of people who dont understand that is wild. It's like if someone made a contract saying "yes, I consent to this person killing me." You're still getting a murder charge and going to prison. You can't consent to crimes
As a current law student, I can just say without giving much thought that this waiver is, in fact, bonkers
Damn right! When I took Contracts and we got to unconscionability I IMMEDIATELY thought of this place. Like there's no way you can enforce this shit LMAO
@@TheCommunistColin I heard they rough you up a bit before you even get to sign the waiver, thus rendering it invalid as at that point you're signing it under duress
as someone with absolutely no experience in law, i can also say that this waiver is, in fact, bonkers
It is the most hilariously unenforceable garbage I've ever seen. Its amazing how people think they're clever with things like this.
Exactly this!! Waivers so rarely hold up in court they seem to act as a deterrent for sueing if anything. I badly sprained my ankle at a rock climbing gym a couple of years back. While I'd signed a waiver that I couldn't sue if I got injured, they were absolutely falling over themselves to get me help and offer me free things to stop me prosecuting. There's so much room to argue negligence.
I think everyone that has ever heard of McKamey Manor needs to watch this video, because it offers such a refreshing perspective on it. I love how you shatter the mystique that surrounds this place and makes the viewers realize that this infamy is really just a manipulation tactic by some bitter man with a bit of money.
I am always hesitant to watch videos about this place because it plays into exactly what this dude wants. The cash prize is fake, the "streaming" of the torture to people who pay is fake, the waiver is fake, and it's basically devolved into making you pull him around on a giant tire at this point.
Was that covered? I don't want to provide any views to video glorifying this dude
@@margggggggie Sorry if I missed your point, but if you’re asking if this is a video glorifying the guy, it’s the opposite. It’s practically exactly what you said by the end and he debunks all of those same things
@@sam.3519 Thanks. I was just hesitant due to the $20k thing being in the thumbnail.
Russ works at Walmart now, so you don't even have to give him dog food to experience him being rude to you anymore lmao
@Man with hair That's because you a sad and pathetic little bitch who looooove being manipulated.
Typical bottom. Fuck off loser.
He doesn't even have money... he never even had the 20k prize money..
"He didn't have to follow the guidelines that most businesses have to follow... like the Geneva Convention" Wendigoon you truly have the best delivery even in the worst topics- 100/10, would recommend
His jokes fuck me up because there is no change in tone it just slaps you in the face 🤣🤣
If you havent heard of Reckless ben, look him up. Him AND his friend went there seperately...& it was basically, ONLY a bootcamp, in his front yard. As soon as one of the guyys FINALLY DID get to the "haunted house" portion, Russ's camera battery went dead so, the guy want allowed to continue! Not even after he switched out the batteries.
My two off limits things have to be suffocation and the hair cutting.
If I loose the hair, I’m out of a job.
Woah, hey, crazy seeing you in your son's comment section.
@@kaibowman4803 this is gold
Elusive AK daddy sighting in the wild, likely on one of his few breaks from roaming the sprawling pages of gun broker.
No way
Where tf did brandon spawn from
That clip where the employee is listing out the things he’s done and what a horrible person he is, and other employees agreed and claimed that he blackmailed them. Yet Russ is the only one that said “that’s not true” TELLS A LOT.
I’m afraid I don’t have the link of the video right this second, but the documentary that footage is taken from is very eye-opening. Watching the footage taken from the haunt is much much worse than McKamey’s own videos. There’s no gloss or horror style editing, and it’s extremely disturbing. It really shows that Russ isn’t a showman or someone trying push the extremes of a haunted house for the sake of that particular art. I’m convinced he’s a psychopath.
@@GrindHouseBlues83what's the name of the doc?
@@txtbot9000 I’ve been trying to find it since I made that comment. I’m afraid I still haven’t found it, and my first viewing of it was a while ago, so I don’t recall the title. It’s been on and off UA-cam for a bit now - partly due to legitimate copyright issues, partly due to Russ’ machinations, if my memory is correct.
If I happen to find it, I’ll post the title here.
The fact that she’s being “interviewed” and asked questions about him while he’s being allowed to stand right there is super weird
yeah that made me so uncomfortable. i know the girl in the clip, we worked at a halloween store together last year, and my stomach dropped hearing her talk about that
You know he’s a certified sadist when you realize he doesn’t charge any money for anything
Yeah because he makes all his money from his UA-cam videos.
Some folks are in it for the money, some are in it for blood
@@LackaJudgment Some men just want to watch the world burn.
@@xotennisxgirlox believe it or not he’s not making much revenue from youtube… I’ve followed this topic pretty closely for a few years. A majority of his views were 4 years ago, he’s demonetized as well (last I saw). Russ currently works as a Walmart employee stocking shelves and lives in a small trailer in Tennessee. Believe me when I say dude is not holding onto much cash flow lmao
Thats what I said. If he's not making money off of the infamy of the experience, then that begs the question, "what's the motivation for doing it?" And to me, it's pretty obvious that he LIKES doing it
I loved the part where wendigoon was like "I'm not gonna sit here and go through fourty pages of a waver" and then immediately in the next part starts reading the waver 🤣🤣 this is why I come back to watch this man's videos
I've been a haunt actor before at your standard mid-budget boo haunt.
It's fun to scare people, but it's not fun to *hurt* people. I've accidentally given people panic attacks. I've also then helped those people to exit the attraction safely, because the goal is to never harm someone, but to just get their adrenaline going.
Even if his haunt was not as extreme as the internet made it out to be, his behavior was sadistic and unacceptable, and every haunt worth their stuff i know of does not want to be associated in any way with him.
That was not a haunt. It was a psychological and physical torture room.
Professionals have standards 🚬
Agree
@@angelaziegler6713 Be polite
Well you sound like a good mothman, there are bad mothmen out their and they must be thwarted.
You're a real one, @Applachian Mothman
My two NO-GO's are as follows:
1. Pulling of teeth.
2. Raw sewage.
Bonus: 3. The fact that there are multiple clauses in regards to drowning. It's almost as though they want you to drown, and even encourage it.
HOW CAN YOU BLAME HIM if you aren't able to hold your breath for the requisite 3 minutes it takes not to die? Or if you choose to accidentally breathe in water?
My rule is no drugs. I'd go in on this with a speedball
The good ol classic “If you build it they will come” situation. This should have never gained this much popularity with people signing up. Sick
No raw sewage. So, scat and urine straight from the "pipe" are on the table?
@@theragingrodent__ It's even more than just holding your breath for 3 minutes. Stress and heightened heart rate make it much more difficult to hold your breath for prolonged periods
I firmly believe he is actually crazy and just uses this “tour” to abuse and torture people, riding the legal line as THINLY as possible.
Oh definitely. He has H.H. Holmes vibes
From what I've heard in this video, this guy comes across as somewhat of a sadist. It seems like this guy has kind of a pain and humiliation deal going on.
Russ is probably a sadist, but he's not "crazy".
Probably the same kind of guy as the fat doctor restaurant owner
Thanks for pointing the obvious
This man talks about anything and I find myself watching. He's a great speaker. There aren't any flashy things or silly pictures, just him telling the info. I appreciate this account lol
I like how Russ ignores everyone else when they ask to quit.
But this marine takes everything Russ throws at him and it's "oh you're shaking, we are stopping because of hypothermia".
Such bs no person can do that without shivering. The game is unwinnable.
Chad marine vs virgin Russ
Of course, he isn't about to pay someone.
Dude litterally, before Wendigoon even said the longest lasting guy was a marine I was already theorizing on how a marine could blow through this haunted house 🤣 the crucible which all marines experience is like a 3 day long mcKamy manor 🤣
@@f.wallace8969 then he shouldn't promise money at the end of it!
@@fizzneticfizznetic3892 used to be.
“He didn’t have to follow the guidelines that most business have to follow, like the Geneva convention”. Had me in tears, another fantastic production Wendigoon!
McKamey: NO ONE will EVER get through this show, EVER
**a marine who is trained to mentally and physically withstand things MUCH worse than the abuse in MM successfully nears the end of the show**
McKamey: oh god no he’s a little bit chilly he must be suffering from hypothermia !
yea i think most marines or other millitary/intelligence members who have been trained to resist torture would get through this fairy well
Yeah, for a marine, special ops member, etc that's totally doable. That marine dude should have sued him.
Accurate.
Russ didn't account for a marine to show up. Lmao
@@12gauge_shawtyy i hope not for the Fairies sake
yeah especially all the ones that never actually saw combat lol
I can imagine the torturer taking off his leather face mask and saying, "Mr. McKamey, sir. He said a curse word." while pointing at the perpetrator. Then McKamey rushes in the room to tell that horrible beast that cursing is not allowed then cancel the whole thing all while pointing to the waiver article 25, section c, line 6 that states: "NO CURSING!!!!"
As a haunt actor, I'm glad MaKammy Manor has fizzled out into a shell of what it once was.
I can only speak for myself, but I feel the point of being a haunt actor is to make sure our guests have fun. Yes, we are here to scare you but there's a point when people stop having fun when they're terrified. It's one thing to be an extreme haunt that touches and drags people from their groups, but it's another thing to take away all forms of safety during a haunt.
You hit the nail on the head, Russ lost his way and centered his "haunt" around physical and mental trauma rather that spookiness.
Thank you, I like when I hear from people like you. I saw someone else in the comments being really dismissive of people that can't handle these things and that kind of thing makes me really angry.
I've been through some intense, nasty shite, it's just pretty much all medical. I'm Autistic tho, and I cannot handle things like haunts. I've been through a (n accidental) paracetamol overdose, a perforated bowel and really bad psychosis so I don't think I'm a pansy, but I have bad sensory issues, a really exaggerated startle response and really bad anxiety. I know other people who I wouldn't in any way call pathetic who wouldn't be able to handle extreme haunts (and I do mean perfectly innocent ones, not Russ's nonsense) and I just find it horrible when people are dismissive of legit issues people can have that hinder enjoyment of this kind of thing.
Sorry for the personal essay, it's just something I care about a lot. I often see haunt workers comment on this kind of thing saying that it isn't fair and that people being legit terrified isn't fun for anyone and I just appreciate that. 🥰
Well said
Dont go to them. Because you dont like them doesnt mean you should say nobody should do these. That is so stupid to hear anyone say, "I dont like it so people shouldnt either!" is so goddamn old. Mind your fucking business, and if it says it has something you dont like, keep walking by. It's pretty fucking simple.
@@ChromeCobra420 dude, this MF doesn't allow people to read the contracts they have to sign, employs ex-sexual harrassers as actors, contradicts himself AND state law in the aforementioned contract, marketed the room as a huanted house when In reality he would torture participants and hold them hostage, and unironically violates the Geneva convention. Saying Its shady, misleading and Absolutely psychotic would be doing It a compliment.
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Also that One marine Who almost got trought the whole thing and MM conveniently thought he was having hypothermia and cancelled the whole thing.
@@ChromeCobra420 Trust me, I let people do what they want even if I don't like it. But I have to draw the line at a guy who uses haunt attractions to fill out some sort of sadistic fantasy! Dude gave haunted houses a bad name because of how popular it got in the news. I'm not even against the idea of extreme haunts that rough you up a bit, but it was the violation of safe words and the fact that in the Netflix documentary, he made a couple people keep going even though they could no longer mentally/physically continue, that made me realize this dude has gone too far. Plus, there's the fact that ex-workers and former guests have come forward and claimed he had his followers harass them when they spoke out. So yeah, I think I'm gonna advise people to not go there. But go on and do his backyard boot camp, I'm literally not going to stop you.
Everyone that's been around him, his children, his wife, his girlfriend, ex goons- have all left him. very telling.
dude's posessed
@@demonslayereren3970 thats not real
@@barnacles1352huh
@@demonslayereren3970 by a fetish
@@Mikeystonet Demonic possession is not real. What did you not understand about his comment?
My dad used to run a "home haunt" during Halloween and just stopped a few years ago. He would go all out, he had several animatronic dummies and decorations that were crazy to everyone who also grew up in a tiny town in southern IL. He owned a totaled police car and ambulance that he would stage in the yard to make it look like some kind of murderous disaster was happening. Ambulance lights and noises would flare as my aunt laid on a stretcher covered in fake blood just waiting to pop up and scare some kids to death. My 6'9" brother would dress up as Michael Myers and slowly wander around the yard while carrying a knife, never jumping out, just slowly walking. All in the while a dance remix of the Halloween theme song played in the background. God that was my favorite night of the year as a kid 😭
Families like yours capture the spirit of Halloween perfectly. 🎃 You have a special clan!
I know that exact dance mix you’re talking about haha
damn ur brother is 6'9 🥴 is he single /s
6’9???
@@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 I have a 6’9 friend? Is it hard to believe tall people exist? 🤣
the "was it not scary..?" BROKE MY HEARTTTTT that family and haunted house sound like the best
"I will be cold in the dirt before I snitch on someone for tax evasion."
The strong code of ethics of this man is a primary reason for why I love the channel so much.
Snitching is sometimes a good thing though so many stitches have saved, lives by being willing to risk their ass, getting beaten to report a murder case or something
@@blackqweenmars Maybe. But then they get stitches.
@@blackqweenmarsNot for tax evasion. If someone's trying to get out from under the government's thumb it's their own dam business.
@@tubbs2132 I mean not for tax evasion, of course cause it’s not like you’re really hurting anyone except the government but they have a ton of money already. But as soon as you start, robbing banks, murdering people, raping people, etc I’m not just gonna keep that to myself.
He lives in southern Appalachia. Tax man ain't never been welcome in those parts.
There's something so...creepy about how McKamey can shrug off the fact they had a heart attack on his own property and his response is just "that's good footage". He really did become obsessed with wanting to look "scary".
@L Yeah, but caring about looking scary to the point where you ignore someone having a heart attack is a concerning thing
He could've just embellished a minor episode or completely fabricated the heart attack story though, just for the sake of looking scary. If nothing else, we've learned not to take anything he says at face value...
@L I’m pretty sure being obsessed to the point of ignoring a heart attack is not the same thing. Jesus 🙄 you really can say the most plainly understandable statement and still have idiots online struggle with it
@@colinjensen8303 if people actually died there, I'm sure wendigoon would have actually brought that up and emphasised it in the vid. I swear so many people in this comment section totally fell for his persona of evil guy or didn't actually watch the vid. Learn internet literacy, people can make up and say anything they want easily, proof is what matters.
@@CryptidFlame Someone shouldn't have to die to care about the actual possibility of someone having had a medical emergency, goofy. Heart attacks aren't inherently fatal. If it did happen, it's a fucking weird way to talk about it from both a business and human perspective, and if it didn't, it's an awfully pathetic way to get cheap outrage.
McKamey should really be put on every possible watch list. This dude is as close as we may get to an actual irl joker
Hes worse than that even. He's like a borderline snuff film director the sick things he WANTS to put people through is alarming to say the least
he is like the irl jigsaw killer
@@starfiresreign he's like the insane director from Manhunt
He should be locked up
nice
I love that Reckless Ben and Danny have began going through it, I’m sure this opens our eyes to more
I love how the intro segment is probably the angriest we will ever see Wendigoon get, and its almost weird seeing that come out in the calmest way possible.
Great video as always. please keep up the good work and heres hoping to the movie!
The man who covers the roughest topics, with the smoothest skin.
I never realized that his skin is hella smooth
And hair, don’t forget the hair. 👌
he is the embodiment of elegance 🥺
What in the world are yall talking about?
@@istartedajoke1704 wendigoon of course
Love the increasing absurdity of the waiver, was half expecting it to conclude with “participant fully understands and agrees they may be forced to run down a length of road. It is the participant’s responsibility to remain calm and slow down to avoid running into a wall which is painted to resemble a tunnel”
For some reason I just pictured Wiley Cayote and the Roadrunner, with the word ACME painted over the tunnel. 🤷🏻♀️🤗
Participants may find themselves suddenly beyond the edge of a cliff. At that point it is the participant's personal responsibility to pause in the air for the appropriate amount of time, and extract from wherever upon their body they are carrying it the previously provided desperation sign to hold up for the camera. There may or may not be sufficient dust at the point of impact to provide a softening cloud, depending upon this theatrical cooperation.
@@gothgirl4evr414 that’s freaking hilarious, and gave me a great mental image 🤣 I love both your comment and the original.
“Participant fully understands and agrees to being forced to play "Those Endearing Little Charms" on a rigged piano where the C note key is rigged with dynamite.”
Participant fully understands that Mckamey Manor staff will shoot them with a cartoonish, rubberhose animation style gun and that the participant’s face may become amusingly rearranged.
I just saw an anti-McKamey Manor meme on Facebook reposted by my friend, and he mentioned your video!
It's just nice to bond with friends over good UA-cam content.
I hope you're able to go back to that house haunt this year. I used to go to Netherworld every year with my father and brother--it was a tradition that I sadly think it's dying out, but I'm trying to keep it going. I love the artistry and the joy of Halloween with real haunted attractions. I remember when my church had one when I was growing up. I miss it. It was so much fun working in it.
Thank you for all the wonderful videos you've made, Wendigoon. Happy Halloween! 💙💙
My biggest fear is tornados, so I’d like to see how they’d handle that
I would assume waterboarding and a couple good slaps.
Shoot with high pressured winds water throw and toss you around
@Chandler Burse NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
they'll get Dorothy to help
They tie you to a computer chair and spin you around, while breaking plates and smashing glass lol
If McKamey hadn’t created this haunted house, I’m almost certain he’d be a serial killer
For sure
The Manor will be a major chapter in his episode of "Snapped" on Oxygen channel....
(How weird is it that the network which was founded by *_OPRAH_* & made "for women, by women," after being sold off, under current network owners, has become a true-crime broadcast network?!?! The content of which is largely that of real attacks on and murders of women..)
I'm honestly convinced he is
Or is aspiring to be one who does it legally.
Should have finished the Waiver bit before opening my mouth.
I have said the the same thing. He's a serial killer at heart and found a way of fulfilling his fantasy of torturing people and once that loses its thrill for him he would cross that line and kill someone. Then TRY to have that joke of a waiver protect him and hold up in court, or he would flat out just start going out and randomly killing people
McKamey: "The first person to make gourmet nightmares."
According to people who live near him, his wife divorced him a few years ago and most of the money went with her. He now works at the local Walmart in the town he lives in in Tennessee, but he stills runs a small version of the manor that’s referred to as “The Bootcamp” in a barn and three shipping containers. It’s really just so he can tortue people at this point
this is true
Uh oh…
And ppl continue to sign up.
How has no one shut him down? How is this allowed??
@@avery_is_here9054 have you been watching the @recklessben stuff on the manor, because I feel like you'd get a kick out of it if you have a few hours, it's quite the saga and it's really getting juicy with a hard drive full of footage that is illegal because it's simply not lawful to contract someone into torture regardless of the word salad presented on paper, and if any real evidence of torture were to exist, it would absolutely sink him... supposedly, we're still waiting on that episode to come out lol
As someone whose favorite animals are tarantulas... I'm not a fan of them being used as 'props'. And eating live insects. I know most people see them as like, inanimate trash, but they're still living creatures. :/
I like jumping spiders. Tarantulas are... okay. They are cool, but I'm scared of bugs.
Especially big ones.
But I know they are living, if I have to kill a bug I usually try to get it over with, I won't torture them or hit them repeatedly if it's dead.
Though, I am kind of harsh on roaches and mosquitos (female, the bloodsucking ones)
Roaches remind me of a bad time in my life and scare me, mosquitos I'm allergic to.
I do see (some) bugs as living creatures so it unfortunate they are living and used as props.
(I know all bugs are living, but some bother me so much I'd rather them just die.)
Sorry I wrote a lot, I just wrote what was on my mind and what was relevant.
I'd like to know, why is your favorite creature the tarantula?
@@MBiz. Tarantulas are my favorite animals for a few reasons. For one, they are extremely harmless. Like, the only confirmed deaths from tarantula bites are due to other health complications the person had where the tarantula bite effected them much worse than usual. New Worlds (Tarantulas in the americas) in particular have basically no venom, the bite itself hurts more than the venom injected into you. Old Worlds (tarantulas from everywhere else) have more potent venom but it's not going to kill you or anything.
There's also a ton of different species with their own traits and behaviors and appearances. My favorite is probably the G. Pulchra. It's a pretty big and harmless species that is jet black and looks adorable. The hairs on its abdomen are the most annoying part, since if it feels threatened it will rub them off with its hind legs to disperse in the air. And have you ever breathed in a dog or cat hair? Imagine that, but worse. It's their main defense mechanism.
I also seriously love the M. Balfouri. It's the only species that thrives in a community. Tarantulas are a pretty solitary species but the M. Balfouri will gladly share its space with others of the same eggsac as long as they're raised together and never separated. And the M. Balfouri webs... a lot... so their enclosures look really damn cool.
Tarantulas also have nice lifespans. Males of any given species only live like 3-5 years but females live upwards of 12+. Which I personally think is a nice lifespan for a pet, unlike something like a tortoise that is still going to be around when your kid's kids have kids.
It's also just one of the few animals kept in captivity that does genuinely thrive there vs in the wild. Tarantulas lay several hundred eggs in their eggsacs and... there's a reason they're not everywhere. A small puddle drowns them, a light rainfall drowns them, falling a foot breaks their abdomens, birds eat them, etcetera. Even in captivity a lot of species struggle to make it to adulthood cause they're just so damn fragile, but way more thrive in captivity than in the wild.
Tarantulas are almost blind, and even the burrowers that don't lay down much lweb still put strands all around their hideout and the outside of their hideout to use as trip-wires so they know when food walks by for them to pounce on. And they literally will only EVER leave their space if they're chased away from it or if it's a mature male on the prowl for a female. So they're also one of the only pets where being in a 20 gallon terrarium allows them to live the exact same life they would've in the open wild. (well, they live better, cause like, no predators.)
Sorry for how long this became. I could honestly ramble on for hours about tarantulas.
@@Alino- Very interesting. Thank you for the fun facts.
I didn't know they thrived in confinement.
Same thing with bacteria; people go out of there way to disinfect things and kill bacteria, but those are living creatures they are murdering :(
@@Cloud30000what
Wendigoon is like the weird uncle that shows up only for Christmas and tells you creepy stories about his life
The best kind of family relative cause he'll tell you these stories then invite you to tag along with him in the spring to hunt skinwalkers and bigfoot.
@@pliskenx51mm83 me and my uncle wendigoon watching the skinless eldritch horror that we just shot down crawl painfully across the backyard while screeching and yowling
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After hearing most of the waiver, I am now completely convinced that McKaney Manor is NOT a haunted house experience. But rather a "Dumb Ways to Die" Death Game Tournament with a Grand Prize of $20,000 at the end. This is just a glorified, less dignified Squid Game.
It's like if Jigsaw decided to capitalize on his psychotic narcissism and makes a show out of his elaborate murder contraptions.
Nerd Explains how to beat McKaney Manor
No, because a Jigsaw show would actually be funny at first, and at least not ENTIRELY fucked up. Just a little puppet explaining how this contrived death machine works and why Terry Jenkins over here is being put in it after stabbing his wife to death. Then you get to grab your popcorn and see if he'll get spikes driven through his eyes.
except the waiver is fake
don't forget about the fact that he doesn't even give you the money.. when you're about to win he cancels the show. it's literally just risking your life for nothing.
@@Nickel_EyeYeah, a money hungry scumbag.
Its not worth 29,000 dollars in medical charges, than 20,000.
Someone once paid more for medical stuff than they were gonna be “paid” if they won.
Some American Veteran went about 6 hours in or more and was so close to winning but scumbag owner here said “No he’s gone through enough..”
Just a small correction: The drug tests actually have a purpose.
It’s the same reason they ask you about drug use before surgery: your body responds with adrenaline to any significant injury, raising your heart rate, blood pressure etc. so somebody who’s ingested a bunch of cocaine, methamphetamine, any kind of stimulant before being literally tortured is at a drastically higher risk of complications like heart failure or other medical events.
Those on-site drug tests are generally pretty reliable at detecting substances that the person may have ingested recently enough to be dangerous, so there’s definitely sound reasoning behind it, it’s not just a scare tactic
*TL:DR: the drug tests make sure the person isn’t going to die from the torture*
That could be awfully hypocritical if some of the rumors I’ve heard about them are true. Some of his videos are legitimately concerning when it comes to multiple things besides just sadism. Thank you so much though for clarifying.
I commented this above as well, but the policy also would prevent people from showing up fricked on heroin or ketamine and sleeping though the torture
Imagine if those tests weren't in place, it'd be SO BAD.
@@markelder6497 incredibly important
@@TheKaos90 I was gonna add that to my comment but it was getting way too long lol
Dude I seriously wonder what one of those “personalized experiences” would look like for me. My biggest fears are no one actually loving me and the bass clarinet.
Love how Wendigoon cites his sources and gives credit to past people who’ve made videos on the topic before him.
That's the most ethical thing to do yet barely anyone does it.
Credit to dog at 50:46
Exactly... thats actually how I found him, through another youtuber mentioning his videos =)
ua-cam.com/video/ahkhyU8K3Dw/v-deo.html
He knows that we come back not only for the information but also for delivery. He has great narrative style that makes you feel as if you were listening to your friends by a campfire.
To sum up the waiver: participant acknowledges that it is their responsibility to not die while we are definitely not trying to kill them
Hi! Haunt Worker here,
I’m not sure if he came across this in your research or not, but something you forgot to mention as well as that a lot of the actors he hired at least in the beginning or in the 2010s,
A LOT of them had sexual harassment issues. McKamey claims that he’s not in it for the sexual reasons but a lot of victims and interviews claim that some of the workers would molest and/or mutilate their genitals. Sick shit. And it was usually covered up or paid off by Russ himself
I hate that the manor has put such a bad reputation of Haunts. Because in actuality were just a bunch of fun weird people that put on masks and want to scare people.
Sure you can go out of your way to dunk blood and eat exotic roaches but it comes down to…Why?
seriously, some of the things reported that go on there are just horrible. consent violations everywhere. calling mckamey manor a haunt is straight up insulting to haunts and haunt workers everywhere
I heard of this as well. It's bonkers how the bs waiver forbids swearing and yet there's so much stuff on workers molesting female attendees and throwing all sorts of nasty sexual harassment at just about everyone. I don't think McKamey is motivated by any fetishy or sexual reasons at all but it doesn't take a genius to recognize how some sick fucks could take advantage of the lax policies at the manor and take this opportunity to go absolutely ham with groping and molesting
That’s truly fucking horrific. I’m appalled I didn’t know this sooner and that no one else I’ve heard talk about the manor mentioned it.
Another thing I saw was a documentary where he admitted he had real murderers, Im not sure if it was real or what it is called but if I find it again i will post the link
@@kongzare7228 ive seen that too! or at least ive seen claims that he was purposely employing people with violent criminal records including murder.. which i mean obviously people w records deserve jobs still but when its purposeful for a job that is basically just a torturer then thats gross as fuck
It's heartwarming to hear you laugh so much while making this, it made those moments all the more hilarious. Also glad McKamey is wheelchair accessible. 😂
There's no way this dude isn't some kind of a sick fetishist. Extreme haunted houses are okay but there should ALWAYS be an option for a safe word/to quit if it gets too much. We have a haunted house in Poland that has different levels and I think the highest level also allows the staff to potentially harm you but I don't think it's anything as bad, I'd imagine maybe punching at worst.
bro I've lived in places where shit got thrown at my ass, sometimes the excitement is just nice
totally agree, the idea of taking pride in not having a safe word totally gives off the vibe of either 1. I'm not into BDSM stuff that's for sadistic sickos and sex freaks or 2. I would love to be accepted by the BDSM community but I think consent is for pussies and I've been blacklisted by subs one too many times because I literally abused them and didn't take no for an answer
So? They signed up for it. Nothing wrong with either side.
@@dylanmonstrum1538 because consent is something that can be revoked at any time, it’s a key tenant of things like BDSM communities and even professional fighting, if someone taps out they tap out and the person inflicting an action on them does not have the right to continue anyway; as soon as that continues it is no longer consensual anyway Folding Ideas’ video about 50 shades of gray cover this idea really well and why that book is reviled by people who enjoy bondage
@@dylanmonstrum1538 that's the same line of thinking of "they gave consent at the beginning so I should get to do what I want" consent can be taken away at any time.
As a haunt actor, this is no haunt. This is hell. Literal hell. If I were ever given an opportunity to work there I’d deny it immediately because the things they do to people here are disgusting
It’s a cover. Look up Mr hands and the farm that was famous among a specific “Community”. Those Californian fruits love their covers for their depraved sex dungeons. The guy owning a lot of dogs stuck out. They were doing disgusting things with those dogs guaranteed.
@@Bungowumperpussforgot ur meds
as a person with brain, I can tell exactly the same thing 🤡
@@Bungowumperpusswhat…
@@Bungowumperpusswhat the fuck are you on abou
The female haunt actress tearing up and voice getting shaky when she said she was quitting her job there because she was afraid to be around him....
That was real and frightening I wonder if he did something to her (and other workers) and they can't/won't speak up about it due to the supposed blackmail mentioned in that video....
The blackmail they kept mentioning is incredibly worrying! And the fact that they don’t feel safe around him. INCREDIBLY scary things to say about this man regarding everything around him. Until seeing that clip I thought he was a mostly harmless, if sadistic, weirdo. Now I’m not so sure…..
She's an actor trying to hype him up!! Otherwise why not do the interview without him standing there? Why is she still there if he's "so scary". That was horrible acting and I cannot believe anyone fell for it.
🤣 i think this guy is just kinda a nerdy enthusiast with cringy ideas and everyone is falling for it. Especially that blonde actress "fear" skit with him right there lol. I can't believe y'all are buying that!
Now he's got everyone convinced he's a sadist irl. You drank the coolaid ppl. Gotta give him props for getting y'all to fall for such silly and obvious scare tactics lol. He's probably the nicest d0rk in the world who dreamed of being a scare legend. 😆
@tone ya
@@laurasalo6160 this lol
One of my calls as a brand new medic was at a haunted house. It was an amusement park haunted house, and people were searched before coming in. Guy got in with a gun and when he got scared shot the actor 6 or 7 times
What mckamey manor employees probably don’t understand is you can read and sign a waiver but in the moment your primal instincts will kick in when someone is trying to drown you..and you could very well kill them as a way of protecting yourself. This is why that clause existed of no items allowed.
However……these employees are awful. And the only humans capable of torturing others like this are humans who are most likely to end up killing someone in real society.
Did the actor survive? I know this comment was from awhile ago I was just curious if you knew
An actor may shoot a participant point blank in the face with a real gun with real bullets. It is the participant's responsibility to not bleed out and die. If death occurs the tour will stop immediately no questions asked, however we will continue the tour if we believe the participant is in a panicked state of mind. We here at MM only have your best interests in mind.
Given everything I've heard about this place I can't tell if you're just making a joke or if that's an actual part of the contract
Prank em Alec
LOL
Personally, I would say NO to anything involving my teeth/dental procedures. It's my only big fear. Second, no drugging or sedation. That clause in the contract about being drugged with hallucinogens is so scary... If I'm sedated, how could I possibly use a safe word? Just the thought gives me the willies.
the heeby jeebies per say
I HAVENT MADE IT THIS FAR IN THE VIDEO YET BUT NO WAY HE WOULD DRUG PEOPLE WHATttttTTTT!!!!
How tf is that legal? What kind of waiver are you signing😂
@@gripskiddly9777 It's a fake waiver
The waiver is obviously not real. It’s not even grammatically correct, much less legally viable.
Taking control over someone even if it isn't "sexual" can still be a fetish. Essentially, he is dominating others for his personal pleasure like you said, which is what a fetish is. He definitely was not the most ethical character and clearly did this stuff for his personal benefit and enjoyment vs providing an experience for others to remember or to cause them to be a better person like he made it out to be in sub context.
Plus since the waiver isn't even real he could very possibly be doing that behind closed doors anyways..
@@rainbowscarface2496 I don't think the thing is that the waiver isn't real, but rather that it wouldn't hold up in court if someone decided to challenge Russ on his abuse in certain areas when it comes to giving up consent during a time of duress like he tries to rationalize. Yet if Russ was caught breaking anything in his agreement he would definitely be in big trouble as he is not under duress at all during the situation and therefore he couldn't blame his behavior on something like not understanding what he was getting into. I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer, but I am just making my best guess.
@@rainbowscarface2496 Thing is if someone did get seriously injured and was taken to court, that waiver would be ripped to shreds.
@@damegataco well technically he did break the waivers rules the supposed mole guy who used the safe word and Russ said fuck that were still gonna beat the shit out of you for a few more hours though I think the mole guy didn’t do anything because he did that as some type of stunt to scare off the haters he was so upset about like if you try anything he did I’ll beat your ass
@@arciks11 I’m so surprised no one has taken him to court yet
My two off limits are- fucking around with my teeth, and any sort of drowning or suffocation challenges.
What about Bugs? Peepeepoopoo?
(I had to make the joke I'm sorry)
suffocation/buried alive/ the other stuff related Are my BIGGEST fears and I like my teeth
You forgot to mention that he himself wouldn’t go through his own haunt. He’s mentioned multiple times im videos that it was “too intense” for him
Of course, he's a sadist he only enjoys other people's pain and humiliation.
Why is that relevant?
To hype it up, obvs
@@zanderlavastory Because it's about McKamey manor? lol, it's very obviously relevant
@@zanderlavastory its ironic how he pushes the narrative that you’re a whimp if you can’t pass the manor or use the safe word but he himself is too much of a whimp to pass or even try his own challenge
You know, as I was listening to all this I was thinking, "I could never do that," because I don't like pain and stuff. But I also got to thinking, "Did no one ever complete it because no on trained to deal with this kind of abuse ever tried?" Like I was imagining what would happen if someone went in and just didn't give the kinds of reactions Russ was looking for. Then you got the part where the marine guy went in and essentially got kicked out before time was up because he probably would have come through it all and I just had the most satisfied grin on my face.
Pretty sure there was a thing where a Marine guy went into this kind of 'haunted house' and got kicked out or whatever because he wasn't fazed or some shit.
a marine was about to beat it but this dude said “nah we have to stop, it’s too much for u” and the marine guy was like “no, i’m fine. i want my prize” but mkamey stopped it anyways
Dude has a bunch of minor things that he disqualifies you for. Basically it’s fraud, even if you finish it they won’t pay you.
There are several people who have completed or came close but he will always find a way to say you were disqualified in some way.
I firmly believe that nobody has completed it because russ doesn’t want to pay out. The marine guy is a prime example. He was kicked out right before he finished. Something is clearly up.
Well for me, my two no go's are clear. 1. In full agreement with the goon himself, swearing is off the table. And 2. I just have to say no to the gross disrespect for basic traffic laws
And name calling is way over the line
But no seat belts?????
A bunch of masked assailants manhandle you into an unmarked van, then pause for thirty seconds to put you in a seat and ensure your belt is fastened securely before continuing to assault you
There was another "extreme haunted house" I saw that was more of like "a zombie virus has broken out" and you would get in for free, you'd watch this movie of sorts with some stage scares, and then it was random if you got pulled into it as someone who was "infected" and it was funny because some of it was like "you'll be sprayed with strange chemicals" and I think it was literally just vinegar and warm water to make you smell kinda bad.
atleast i can act as a zombie in this one and not be pulled behind some vheicle like its 1888
Lmao. There's also 17th door, it's popular on UA-cam as many famous creators went through it and called it the scariest. They do some extreme stuff, but with actual waivers, FULL acknowledgement of safewords, and they aren't giving people false hope of winning money
Between the part about name-calling in the waiver, and the "manor" just turning into physical labor after covid and the actors dropping out, this place seems perfect for sketch comedy parodies.
Like one where the driver of the kidnapping van tells everyone to buckle up. Then one where one of the actors says a swear while verbally abusing the participant, and everyone else is disgusted. Then after lockdown, it's just the owner making people do yard work with a cage on their head.
You’re into something
Eh. I assume that McKamey is one of those "A REAL MAN SUFFERS FROM VIOLENT MENTAL ILLNESSES THAT HE REFUSES TO THREAT BECAUSE ONLY SISSIES WANT TO BE MENTALLY HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" people
I’d watch that
him and his cronies yelling over that girl while shes trying to talk is very telling. she is very brave for saying those things in front of him.
I'm sure she was paid for that to make him look like a scary guy. If it were real, the interview wouldn't have been done with him standing right next to her.
"I know how to turn off that chainsaw. I don't know if he knows how to turn off the chainsaw. And that's what life's really about, isn't it?"
10/10 quote
Madman
Wendi is too cute.
@@LynnAgain83 bruh redoom riter
1:22:08 The way he said "was it not scary" breaks my heart 😭😭
I was a scare actor last season at a relatively well known haunted house in Texas and a couple of veteran employees talked to some of the newbies about this place and how terrible it was, it's some crazy shit, absolutely terrible, haunts are meant to be a scary experience, not basically torture
basically torture? it's actual torture
Terrible working there too?
@@CarpeNoctem135 I assume that’s more about what kind of person you are
I mean.. torture is scary tho
what was the attraction called?
“I know how to turn off a chainsaw, but I don’t know if he knows how to turn off a chainsaw.” Absolutely killed me. I’ve been obsessed with this haunted mess for years, and I’m so happy you covered everything I know and more in this!
Also, as someone who lives in one of the betting locations he listed, hell no. No tourist trap would be caught dead having people bet on this.
It’s meant to be illegal though
@@tanner201x8 you are gullible as hell
the people betting on it is making me feel like they're doing some sort of real life Squid Games essentially
When you said "shooting you up with hallucinagenics? You can't do that just because it's on a piece of paper!" It reminded me so much of that scene in parks and rec.
"Not to worry, I have a permit"
"This just says 'I can do what I want'"
I’m just here to say wow I love how organized your whiteboard is! The straight lines and marker placement is impressive 🥹
*I'm writing this before finishing the video* I was always skeptical that this was a "haunted house". It's not unrealistic to assume some people could make it past 8 hours in a scary haunted house. But when you see clips of just waterboarding and suffocation, it's clear that people aren't tapping out because they're scared, they're tapping out because they're being physically tortured. I would give up too if I signed up for a haunted house and instead got Thai prison torture.
Just say you're a coward
Kidding 😂
Right. Their brains are going to go for the only escape when they literally thing theyre going to die.
Except you didn't sign up for a haunted house, you signed up for torture, read the waiver better next time
The victim-blaming in this comments section depresses me. It's like if every single evil politician had multiple babies.
"I will be cold in the dirt before I snitch on someone for tax evasion." God bless this man! A gentleman and a scholar by all regards.
Tax evasion is always moraly correct!
real
@@dogguy8603 unless they take welfare checks and evade taxes then fuck them
I don't know why but the part where you said "if I could ask Russ McKamey one question it would probably be: was it worth it?" hit so hard. Like I guess it just was a good way to finish off having people look at it not just from the perspective of "oh this guy ran this terrible place" but instead more of an idea of "McKamey lost sight of why haunts are made, and he slowly just fed into that feeling more and more until there was almost no resemblance to what he was once passionate about". Thank you for making this video, it was a really good watch.
As of July 24th of 2024, the owner has been arrested on charges of murder and more. Look it up guys.
Jesus Christ.
i work at fear farm as a scare actor (it’s pretty standard experience with about 4 haunted houses and then a corn maze) and we aren’t permitted to touch anyone and trust me if you’re a talented scare actor you can give anyone a good scary adrenaline rush without even having to touch let alone torture them
yeah no he just sucks at scaring people so he just tortures them
@@rushbiskitIts not that he sucks at scaring, its that he isn't interested in scaring he just wants to torture. He has a torture kink so its torture porn to him. He gets off to videos of this stuff.
bro im scared of mazes, being chased while being lost would suck man.
This just makes me feel bad for the last time I went to a haunt. I have anxiety and other icky little mental illnesses, and so by like halfway through, I ended up covering my ears and just saying "hello :)" to all of them. At one point I was in a hospital theme area and a girl popped out of a window and I'm like "ong you have braces me too" I'm literally dumb
"I will be cold in the dirt before I snitch on someone for tax evasion."
Fuck I love this guy.
There's a far more sinister reason (on top of manipulation) for him including 'fake' things in the waiver. Specifically he allows you to choose two 'no gos', ONLY two things that he absolutely will not do. By including fake events/scenarios that by no means will happen he's increasing the likelihood that you'll select his fake-outs as your two 'no go' options, allowing him to do whatever the hell he wants to you. There's a reason the fake shit is the most extreme/life threatening as well, it's to try and psychologically steer you away from the less extreme, but still horrible things that are far more likely to happen. Glad this dude's life is basically ruined and he works as a Wal-Mart cashier, it's a miracle nobody was killed at his self indulgent sadist's circus.
Self-indulgent Sadist's Circus, try saying that 5 times fast
thank you for pointing this out about just how gross and manipulative it is
@@bigboynow7936 what can I say, I love alliteration
@@ShadowArc22 I just see through fake people. dont need fancy words or love pointless things
@@ShadowArc22 Alliteration is awesome, I love people that love it 😊