WORKHOLDING: Is Your Shop Doing It Right? | Machine Shop Talk Ep. 82

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • Many of us spend a lot of time comparing tooling for our CNC machines, but if you’re not looking at the workholding, you could be missing out on a critical part of the machining equation.
    In this special episode of MACHINE SHOP TALK, Ian Sandusky from Lakewood Machine is back to take a look at fixturing and workholding, and why it’s an essential part of your machining process. When looking at outfitting a machine with workholding, modularity and setup speed is key, and the ‪@Jergensinc‬ Ball-Lock subplate system is an intriguing option you may want to consider. From double vises with soft jaws for high production to heavy-duty milling vises for maximum material removal - join Ian as he explores, installs, and tests out this workholding solution.
    How does your current workholding setup look and how do you like it? Have you ever tried the Jergens system? Share your experience in the comments!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @downlow5569
    @downlow5569 Рік тому +1

    My shop is finally embracing getting newer modern machines and tooling, but we have been using ball lock for years! We love it, and plan on implementing it quite a bit more as we expand and bring in more machines!

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +2

      That’s awesome! I think that’s the real ticket is having the same base setup in multiple machines so it’s plug and play wherever you need it

    • @downlow5569
      @downlow5569 Рік тому +1

      @@iansandusky417 Definitely! That paired with G10 offsets, setup time is so minimal and foolproof!

  • @Mm-ik9uq
    @Mm-ik9uq Рік тому +3

    Safety Tip remove the tool from the spindle..Before you start mounting relocating the vise.

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +2

      Good call! I've backhanded an endmill in the spindle a time or two by mistake.

  • @lilchirp4846
    @lilchirp4846 Рік тому +1

    Ever heard of the microloc system? Also a modular vise system, which can also be optionally hydraulically operated. Our shop just purchased it and can’t wait for it to arrive.. :)

  • @pb68slab18
    @pb68slab18 Рік тому +1

    I've used cheap imported copies of Kurt vises. You can tell the difference after a year or two using them in a production shop . Some the vise jaw bolt locations are different!

  • @mikehazenbosch5791
    @mikehazenbosch5791 Рік тому +1

    Our shop as been quick-change/ modular since the beginning not this particular system but pretty much all our lathes are quick change tooling (capto, komet ABS) and quick change chuck systems.
    I don’t think there is a downside except maybe that your kinda locked into a brand which could be an issue if they stop making the product or go out of business. I don’t think Jergens is going to have that problem.
    Looking forward to more of this we have a rock lock 5th axis for the fourth wish I got a long time ago, I’d like to see if you could get Adaptix system to try don’t know if they work well but a lot quicker then softjaws for a short run.
    Are you going the the Joint open house next week?

  • @poetac15
    @poetac15 Рік тому +2

    Aluminum jaws should be standard in any job shop +-.005 jobs. Cutting any depth shelf is so valuable.

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +2

      Couldn’t agree more! We use them absolutely constantly!

  • @poetac15
    @poetac15 Рік тому +1

    Good stuff.

  • @TrPrecisionMachining
    @TrPrecisionMachining Рік тому +3

    good video

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +2

      Thank you very much for checking it out!

  • @markhorner4982
    @markhorner4982 Рік тому +1

    i have to say it all looks good to me, the But is , it is all solid clamping i want my vice to move if i crash, i never use my T slot slugs to align a vice i want a vice to move if i do , you are talking 1 min to dial it in , in 38 years dong this i have seen machines have a spindle die because the clamping didn't move so killed the spindle as the pull stud went before the clamping, i have seen T slots killed when they had the slug in and the machine was stronger than the bed , if it didn't it killed the location holes, and we all no matter how many years we do this we crash a machine . just saying, on your machines the spindle would be $18/20k ish , compare that to quick change. i like it but always look on the downside, if you never crash go for it .

  • @tomshong3136
    @tomshong3136 Рік тому +1

    Is that huge steel sub plate on the VF4 expected to cut down the life expectancy of the Haas? I’m curious because it must be quite heavy

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +2

      I wouldn’t think so! It’s heavy, but no more so than a few solid vises and some good workpieces

  • @bcdasilva2748
    @bcdasilva2748 Рік тому +2

    I'm not sure why the table needs to be bigger cause the machine can't actually reach the part of the table that is over hanging enlighten me please.

    • @bcdasilva2748
      @bcdasilva2748 Рік тому +1

      I might be not updated on the workspace as far as machines go. Mine has more table than workspace. I have a CAMPRO CSP 750 2007

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +9

      So that extended side is for the 4th axis, so we’re not wasting table space on the body of the 4th axis but keep the whole working envelope

    • @bcdasilva2748
      @bcdasilva2748 Рік тому +1

      @@iansandusky417 Oh yes! thats good thank you!

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +1

      @@bcdasilva2748 no worries man!

    • @CIPCOIND
      @CIPCOIND Рік тому +1

      That area is taken up by the 4th axis, put the face of the rotary table at or around X0 giving you full use of table travel and long fixtures

  • @augustineg1497
    @augustineg1497 Рік тому +1

    Why is every machinist bald???

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 Рік тому +5

      Increased aerodynamics

    • @ethangibson1647
      @ethangibson1647 Рік тому +6

      Because we're all so fucking stressed lol

    • @augustineg1497
      @augustineg1497 Рік тому

      @@ethangibson1647 from what?? If you understand something and you also have fun some fun doing it, how can it be stressful.

    • @augustineg1497
      @augustineg1497 Рік тому

      @@ethangibson1647 machinist and tradesman in general swear and cus so much. Why can’t we be more professional

    • @pb68slab18
      @pb68slab18 Рік тому +1

      @@augustineg1497 I'm not only a machinist, I'm a former Sailor!