I bought the hyped Timex North Expedition because Khaki Field wasn’t good enough.
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Epic Battle! Timex North Expedition TW2V54000 vs Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical H69439931.
2 Field icons. But let's see which one deserves the title of the best budget field watch in 2023.
Enjoy!
I love Timex. A lot of history. $400 for a Miyota 8215 is tough to swallow. $150-$200 would be more palatable. Great looking watch tough. Almost a hybrid of field and dive. Your content is incredible. Beautiful camera work.
Thank you very much, Sir! :)
Agree, hard to pay 400$+ for a timex,knowing that the Q chrono on a bracelet is below 300$
*though
Same thoughts. I would at least expect a 9015 for nearly half a grand.
Aside the water resistance of 200m (and insane case thickness), it's basically Boccia specs, but near of at Hamilton prices.
I can understand maybe wanting to buy it just because you want a Timex, or really love the appearance or presence of the watch, despite it not being the best value for money, though.
That miyota is tougher than a junkyard dog,and you cannot get into misbehave,it's probably the most under rated movement on the market
My everyday 36mm Expedition North solar. Added 18mm mesh band and love it. No winding no resetting no battery running out.
I bought the Timex North Expedition Solar 36mm case, anti-reflective sapphire crystal at 7.8mm thin. This is definitely a smaller field watch. No titanium. I am a fan of the combination of solar power convenience and quartz accuracy and small size. A truly set it and forget it experience. Except one thing, it is quite beautiful in its simplicity and vintage design.
I have a pretty large watch collection. Omega, Grand Seiko, Tudor...etc. Timex is still my first love, and my quartz Expedition sees plenty of wrist time.
haha! Super cool! It's nice that you respect your Timex! Cheers!
I too have a large collection including, Cartier, Seiko vintage watches, Shinola, Baumé and Mercier, Bulova, and more, but Timex is my favourite. I have an American Documents, and Giorgio Galli S1, and plan on picking up the S2.
I rock a timex quartz expidetion here and there also. Lol… so light, i wish they did a titanium case, sapphire crystal one…
Idk where folks are coming off saying the Hamilton watches are priced on par with the timex. Everywhere I look the Hamilton mechanical field watches are almost $200-$400 more, than the Timex is.
in Europe the price of the Hamilton Khaki Field 38mm is sometimes the double of a Timex watch, but even on sale it's still 300 euros more than Timex
The Hamilton was my first "nice" watch. I still have it and still wear it. Great video.
Enjoy it! Solid,solid companion!! Cheers Graham!
What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see MAMACOO work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!
Great review. You could make it really interesting and add the Bulova reissued hack to the conversation . It checks all the boxes from a specs perspective and has the historical chops to be with Hamilton and Times.
Fantastic comparison. I would go for the Hamilton but they're both very nice.
Same :) a complete watch in my opinion!
I paid for hamilton khaki on braclet with powermatic 80 movment 400 euros on sale so yea timex for 400 dollars is to much
Did not know about this Timex. Thank you. Subscribed !
Great review and comparison! The Timex North Expedition is $349 US but has been "Out of stock" for months. The Hamilton Khaki Field is a great watch but is $300 more than the Expedition. You can't beat the price of the Timex North Expedition considering all the specs.
New Hamiltons on the grey market are $400, that would be my move
True
If you're willing to step down to 100m WR, a Boccia would be a far better option for value to spec performance, I think.
My favourite family of watches ; Field watches. I'm a big fan of Hamilton and snapped up the "Murphy" the week before the recent price hike. I own the Khaki Field as a no nonsense go to classic. I see it as a statement watch. A functional no bullshit watch.
both super cool! I prefer the Mecanical one, simpler, more iconicl Did u get the 42 mm Murph? I am chasing the 39 mm version, I am curious to see how well built it is, compared to this 400$ field.
I'd love to purchase a Hamilton field watch. My only reservation is that I purchased a Citizen field watch in their "Garrison" line some years ago. It has met all my needs for a daily-wear field watch. Buying a Hamilton would be redundant. I can only wear one at a time.
I just got the same month ago! My first real watch. Hamilton's are a no good for me. Not sure what people consider budget, but the model described in this video goes for $800 CAD retail brand new, which is way outside my budget.
I'm getting some Seiko Alpinist vibes from that Timex. And that Hamilton is pretty. Not a field watch guy but these are nice.
Another beautiful video - my favourite watch type is the field watch - I have been lucky to own what I consider the ultimate field watch from a technical perspective (Citizen ProMaster Super Titanium) - U.K. spec - amazing wearing dimensions, single piece sealed case, 300m water resist, double thick sapphire, threaded crown, Eco Drive - G Shock tough but way cooler - sold it for a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical which is nowhere near as capable but oozes charm - however, for the most authentic field watches I think you have to look at CWC - genuine military issue, uber cool heritage, beautifully made, hands down original and have real warmth - I have a CWC 72 Mellor reissue - it’s the only field watch I’ll ever keep now because I simply won’t find anything more authentic
that Promaster is super cool, interesting diver, I have to see it in flesh.
As for CWC, I had G10, W10 tonneau, a chronograph but also the SBS diver, very cool watches but for some reason, they left one by one.
I'm still wearing mine today after purchasing it way back in the Spring of 1999. It's never stopped ticking. The ultimate field watch indeed.
@@BraveBeatersjust wanted to say I subscribed based on this video. Excellent presentation. Great command of language. Will definitely watch you again. Criss from Sydney Australia.
Love the Hammie - great dimensions and wear and no rotor noise 😊
haha! true!
I have several of both brands. One of my go to watches is the Hamilton Khaki field mechanical 34 I have from the previous generation with the true ETA in it. The newer ones are almost as good but if were talking about history and historical watches we need to move past modern sizes and go smaller like they were back in the day. Great video as always!
I agree. They're ALL TOO BIG
Yes it’s all 40mm but I rather like a smaler one
I bought the Timex when it was reintroduce after the James Brand collaboration sold out and they made it a full Timex.
I paid $350 USD and after wearing it for months, I have forgotten the cost. It is my most accurate automatic watch, among my 20 watches. I have replaced the strap with multiple silicone rubber models to assure the water resistance of the watch is matched by the band.
I have zero regrets buying this watch.
the James Brand model is super cool, mainly the same model with small adjustments. yes, the watch has solid specs and works on the beach as well on a rubber :) Cheers!
The Khaki Field Automatic is a better watch than the mechanical. And even better on the bracelet. That's my hill and I'll die on it.😁
I have to try the auto version. So far I went twice with the mechanical because of the simplicity of the dial
@@BraveBeaters first and foremost, a better feel on wrist than the mechanical. It's also slim, sturdy looking, elegant, with better quality printed dial work than the mech. And one of the few white date windows that blends in perfectly with the overall look. And mine is also +2 secs max for over 3 years, which i adore.
Hamilton has the magic!
I own a Hamilton Khaki automatic 38mm, and paid roughly what you mentioned the price to be. I do love it. The Timex looks great, but the size is a bit off putting. I'm also not ready to pay $400 for a Timex yet. I do know that they are upping their game, and I am excited to see where they are going.
The best channel for watches thank you very much 🔥☝🏻
God!!! AMZWATCH Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
I have a pretty big wrist and the Hamilton is just too small. So i guess the Timex would be a great option. And for the price i just found it for it is a steal. Thank you for the very helpful video
in Europe it's hard to find Hamilton Khaki for less than 650 euros. Times on the official website is 350 euros.
Always for the underdog :) Timex
Great video! By the way, for those who think Mr Wonderful is a watch guru, in one video, he admitted that he had never heard of Doxa! Time for him to back to school. I may not have a Doxa, but at least I know about their long tradition. Also, nice subtitle about buying responsibly!
Really? OMG :D In US, Doxa was always pretty much, a known brand. Watch collecting is addictive, especially the entry level ones. so it's good to have such a message from time to time :) Cheers, Harry!
400 is fine just put the 9 series in! Stunning camera work as is to be expected still best footage on the tube
haha, Cheers John! :)
Timex Expedition, beats Hamilton like a drum! 5ATM and a push pull crown :) , its a fantastic watch to sit in a watch box permanently.
2 Thumbs up for Timex....the only downside is the miyota 8000 , but if you consider the caliber as a fake automatic, and wind it each morning, its fine, can be very accurate and resilient....usually ends in proper divers with certification and real use.
Good comparison of these two, excellent photo/videography! I currently have the Hamilton Khaki Field Auto Titanium black pvd version so I'm good to go!
Uuu that's a good looking field! I bet is extremely lightweight :)
The dial, hands, and logo/font are all beautiful. Case shape is beautiful. Titanium is awesome. But it’s big. It’s too bad it’s not a bit smaller. And I’m curious about the shock resistance. I’d like to see someone take one apart and show the shock absorbing system surrounding the movement. That might make the size easier to justify
Screw down crown+ date+ price = TIMEX WINS
No comment on the Hamilton's lack of decent AR coating (which seems pretty essential for a field watch)? You want a full-featured field watch? Consider the Casio Pro Trek PRW-6800-1JF.
Great video and review , I like the watch but noise would be an issue for me. Love field watches
When I fell asleep and I move the wrist. I hear the vibrations on the pillow :)))
@BraveBeaters ha ha thats not good, maybe its really made for the field experience not the pillow, where nature mask the noise 😴🫎🐈🐀🐿🦫🦇🐻🐓🕊🦅🐦
:))))))) true! that rotor has presence, no matter the noise
Help me out guys, am I missing something? The Hamilton is almost $700 here in the UK compared to the $320 for the Timex. Both have Saphire glass but the Timex has longer heritage, 200m water resistance compared to 50m on the Khaki, Better lume, Titanium case, automatic with date window and see through case back. Maybe it’s worth double the price due to brand recognition and lower deprecitation.
I love your take on Oleary's "Kahlexioun" phonetics
the khaki is much better with an anti-reflective crystal swap. Only cuts it down by maybe 20-40% but it really helps with readability and more or less solves that issue for me.
You should pick up a Seiko 5 SRPJ81 or something to that effect, maybe a Boldr Venturer, for 250 bucks and not look back. The Hamiltons around 400 Euros are very solid, but the lume sucks and they surely never, ever heard of AR coating. You're better off with a Seiko 5 with domed Hardlex, at least you end up with a watch that's readable, and if it ever breaks you can chuck an aftermarket sapphire in there. The lume will be visible from the moon, and you've saved half the purchase price.
I've had a Hamilton Khaki with sucky AR, and in that price range, if you insist, I'd go for a Smiths PRS-29 if I could get my hands on one of those. They are cracking watches: Good lume, excellent anti-magnetic properties, 100m WR and AR coated sapphire. Above that you're looking at a Seiko Alpinist, Alpinist 1959 re-imagining, or the Baby Alpinist at around 700 bucks. Splendid watches.
i like Timex yet still prefer Hamilton, i mean look at that vintage look
Agree! :)
Excellent review, thanks. I like like both watches. Always wanted a Hamilton watch
Oh. I love Timex!
Honestly I prefer the Timex model. As I designer everything about it is better. Hate the comic sans looking numerals on the Hamilton as well as their outdated logo.
Also being able to see the movement is something that appeals to me, I know other Hamilton models have it so why not that one?
Agree with you, design wise, North is better :)
I love Timex, or should I say I WANT to love Timex, but their higher end pieces just don't seem honestly marketed to me. So I'll just keep my lower spec Expedition Quartz field watches for now and head over to Ali's for a Ronda quartz powered San Martin and Mecha Quartz powered Baltany. The whole automatic field watch thing is nostalgic and all but times have changed, a modern tool watch would utilize a more accurate movement and probably be solar. If I had to pick one if these I'd go for the Hamilton, it's less of a blatant money grab than the Timex.
You are right John, the 100$ expedition is kinda the sweet spot of the line. As for quartz, I agree again, I personally started to trust and to enjoy more and more quartz watches, than manuals or auto. because accuracy, because setting the time. Cheers!
I've had tons of timexs and they are great reliable watches for me it's the expedition because simply it has a crown guard and there are other things but that's just one
A more robust watch, indeed :)
I have no problem with watching videos of super expensive watches that I can't afford at all.
But with your videos you are obviously trying to ruin me...😳😄
Haahahha! That's not good! I have to find some daytonas, fast! :)
Very much appreciated..😉
Death by a thousand cuts.
FYI with a 15% coupon got it for just under $300 usd.
Great content as always, thank you! Also, love the "buy watches responsibly" messages. Its all too easy to get a little carried away as a collector... I speak from experience.
Very fair review, pointing out the limitations of the two watches while also recognizing things they did right. Totally agree that the Timex North is taller than it needs to be. Also, the dial texture will put some people off. Personally I think a flat, matte dial would have been more in keeping with the finishing on thee case, which I really like. I think the case on the Timex, thickness aside, is much better executed as compared to Hamilton. I like blasted finish, but I think the Hamilton is a bit to "grainy" for my taste. Still, it is a great watch at a good price point.
Another top video from the man in the know. Two lovely watches but I would go with the Hamilton all day long. I have the Titanium PVD in black automatic and the Khaki Field automatic day date and for the money the value is hard to beat. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all Sir.
Fully agree with you! I concluded as well, super solid series, the khaki auto or mecha!
Enjoy that titanium Pvd! Super cool piece!
I paid $330 just week ago. I am really happy and would recommend this watch to anyone
Great review. The Timex was a watch I was considering, you succeeded in changing my mind, Laughed out loud at your facial expression when commenting on Mr. Wonderful and the Hamilton!
I like the Timex more than I like the Hamilton.. the Dial is less crowded, the titanium case is a nice touch, 200m water resistant and the movement while not the greatest, still does a great job. if you want to pay more for the Hamilton that's fine it's a great watch as well. but you can get these Timex watches second hand fairly cheap. I wouldn't feel confident swimming with the Hamilton so for that reason I choose the Timex.
I own a 40mm Hamilton Khaki auto and a Timex Expedition North (not the titanium version) 38mm case manual wind. Clearly the Hamilton is a better watch. But for a cheaper “beater” watch that I take fishing and camping, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the Timex.
I don't understand. It is 350euros and you can continously get 15% discount. Hamilton kaki might be in 650 range the cheapest what is double price, and the cheapest titanium is 1k. So how they are comparable?
Nice presentation. I like the Timex, but it seems a bit pricey.
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Man, your videos are fanastic ! I hope Kevin O' Leary sees it but I doubt it. Maybe 'Grasshopper' Teddy will have a bit of a chuckle if he watches it. Getting back to the comparison, there are definitely pros to choosing either of these two watches. The Hamilton is a classic, almost perfect, were it not for the 50m water resistance. The Timex has a bold design of its own while still retaning a field watch identity. Seems a bit pricey though.
You can get a Bulova hack for US$229. This is an heirloom watch.
Cool!
I bought the 36mm solar, sapphire crystal model. 160€ only.
I like it, about time raise the bar.
Seiko 5 sports GMT maybe a better option can get one under $200. The automatic Hamiltons are good for 100 meters but no screw down crown. The mechanical is only 50 mm.
Have you checked out the Unimatic Due Field? Very nice Italian made field watch with a Seiko movement
Hamilton of course ! or a Smiths Commando (or Everest), I would take even an Seiko snk809 before the Timex
Btw, Smiths is re-launching the Commando soon.
I'd never seen a disclaimer in a watch video for responsible buying. interesting.
I own a Khaki King and do not understand the hype. History, heritage, etc., but is that truly worth the price for what you're getting? It's sometimes hard to justify, especially when you are talking about a tool watch. The better "tool" should cost more.
As always, a great review and macro shots. If it's good enough for Andrei, it's good enough for me.
I think they were going for the Khaki Automatic, more especially against the Khaki king... Especially with those crown guards.
I think the Hamilton out classes the Timex by miles! It's so much more refined and less gimmicky.
And Hamilton also has a Swiss movement. I’ve never been a fan of the myotas, good to see they’ve been upgraded to hacking now.
Still a bit too overpriced for a Timex.
I think it's priced appropriately. 200M WR, screw down crown, shock resistance, and titanium case is nothing to sneeze about.
And Timex has a respectable history as well. Of course Hamilton's history in field watches specifically are near unmatched.
The Khaki Mechanical would be perfect with greater water resistance. It makes no sense that today a field watch has a water resistance of less than 100 meters. In that characteristic the Timex is superior. Now, $400 for that Timex doesn't sound good at all, when we have many micro brands with field watch options offering excellent designs, high quality materials and excellent specifications, especially if we consider how difficult it is to find that North Expedition and the prices on the secondary market.
Personally for me at this price point, I would purchase a Vaer A5
I have Rolex, Cartier, Omega, Junghans, Longines, etc...
I wear my Timex Waterbury and Casio Sapphire the most
Price wise there's no comparisons... Hamilton is expensive and hence in that case Timex becomes value for money choice
Beautiful.
teddy put kevin up to that hamilton haha
True :)))
With regards to timex, I would like to add a Marlin to my collection. 41mm is too large for a field watch. To me, I prefer something smaller. I know there are issues with the miyota 8 series. I would like to have seen a 9 series instead.
The Hamilton has great heritage and history. I think it would compliment the 33mm Sturmanskie, a Seiko Gen 1 and a Glycine Airman purist 36mm. I'm tempted to buy a CWC G10 as well.
Marlin is an icon indeed, I have to review one! All mentioned above, killer watches! Gen 1 is super cool and affordable. Airman purist, super cool and G10 only for a decent price :D
Can you tell me how the Hamilton is a budget field watch when starting price is almost €800?
If this had a different movement instead of Miyota 8215, this would be a great buy even for $4000 for a titanium watch.
I bought a Timex Marling which was a beautiful watch only to be disappointed because of the Miyota movement and the stuttering seconds hand. Timex could have gone for a NH35 or even a cheaper a ETA clone.
hamilton movement v.s. timex atm which one feature would is for choice?i do not like the low end spec movement on the timex and i do not agree with the atm on the hamilton =at this mid price range i would say that i should be able to find both features a better movemebt and the correct atm so i would not pick either one...
Agree. I just respect this Hamy, just because it's the lowest offering from their portfolio, and the movement is decent. compared to a Murph for example which is 2.5 x the price of this field.
They're both 21600 vph not 28800 (and def not 28600 as you said)
Too much white competing for the eye's attention in the Ham's dial, imho. But aesthetics are my only concern, maybe it's a better watch in other ways. (I do like its hands better than the Expedition's blunt ones.)
Only wish the timex was 1) even available....2) had that 80 hour reserve the Hamilton has, timex is about half, so really should be worn daily to keep it charged right? Where Hamilton can go a few days without being worn and still have reserve, have you noticed issues with the 40 hour reserve? I like the sapphire and 200m WR...would love to get one but no idea when more will be available...
Hamilton if it had the Crown guards.
I like Timex watches, but this Expedition at $400 is a hard pass for me in favor of the Hamilton Khaki.... thank you Andrei.
Fully Agree! :)
@@BraveBeaters 👍
If I was going to replace my Hamilton, I’d get a Vaer or an SWC.
If only the Khaki didn't have aged lume.
I have the Hamilton field watch, I wish someone would tell me or steer me to instructions on how to adjust the nato strap.
F A N T A S T I C ! ! ! 💯👍😀
I really like the Hamilton khaki design... but poor Lume, no AR coating, push -pull crown.. it looks like it won’t survive in a jungles..
And the stainless steel version is around 200 euros...
Many thanks BB for this interesting video. I've had Timex watches on and off over the decades so will always have a soft spot for them although I think the last Timex that I purchased was a quartz analogue Expedition back in the 2000's and it failed. Pro's for this Timex would be the 200M water resistance, titanium case and a proven Miyota 8 series automatic movement so to quote 'on paper' it's a winner right? Well no, not in this competition anyway. The Hamilton has no date, way less water resistance, manual wind (this could also be a plus) but on the plus side it's slimmer, smaller (as field watches used to be), more at a glance legible and just looks balanced in my humble opinion. The Khaki dial to my old eyes just seems better finished as well. OK, now for the disclaimer, I own the Hamilton on the green NATO but I would not rule out having a look at the Timex if there was a chance but I'm unlikely to pay an inflated price for one. Thank for sharing.
I've only just learned timex makes watches without indiglo. But why? 😮
Timex costs double what it should. Hamilton is priced right. Both seem like great watches. I couldn't bring myself to spend that much for an 8 series Miyota or a Timex. Hamilton wins by a mile.
Well said, Brian! Agree, Hammy is the winner here, solid specs solid brand. In exchange timex is a bit more exotic, due to the dark titanium. Cheers!
Timex makes a mechanical field watch that is mor akin to the Hamilton Khaki. It’s $200 cheaper. I think you me review was honest but idk who is cross shopping a automatic titanium with a mechanical watch. The only thing both watches have in common are price.
Nice, Is only available in the UK?
I cant understand how these are so much when the snk803/805/807/809 did it so well from seiko for like $85-110… makes no sense to me.
Legible hands, date complication, textured dial, titanium, highly legible, and at almost half the price of the Hamilton auto, Timex wins,
I really like the looks of the Timex - but I'd have to go with the Hamilton.
but isn't that particular khaki field a h50 hand wound mechanical movement?
Great video , Andrei! I think I still would prefer the Hamilton in this case , though the Timex looks very nice .