Hi Mat Watson here. Which of these three cars would you pick if I was to give you one of them for free? (disclaimer... I'm not REALLY giving you one for free 😂)
@@migepogon1011 yeah lol didn't expect a Minecraft youtuber to be here what a pleasant surprise! Also I once saw a comment from crisfix on an investment video so I guess they all have hobbies other than their main one
@@blackghost9627 - but being honest, there's nothing more menacing that a mk4 with huge power lol. A stock varient is a lovely thing to see though for sure.
Im really surprised and glad he left it stock. Im honestly getting sick of every single one of em having 700+ hp(not rly sick 😂,but you get the point).
Let's remember we're talking about a car thats built in the mid 90s. And to still be able to hang with very recent modern cars is a testament to Toyota engineers back in the day.
Actually, it wasn’t all Toyota....Yamaha, Asin and yes BMW took also part at Engineering the old Supra....that’s why Toyota ask BMW for cooperation with the new Supra, because BMW also took part at engineering the old Supra, as the only no Japanese company....many people forget that
@@m3competitionracer788 to be honest I didn't know that. I did look it up on the wiki, I don't know if I'm being blind or the wiki is wrong but it said noting about bmw or yamaha
Idk, not that weird. 320hp vs 260 and 340, albeit with worse tech (4 speed auto, lol). Another example of a mildly modded e36 328i beating a Hyundai i30n, which is 270hp? Older doesn't necessarily mean slower
The 2.0 puts up quite an impressive performance actually, was surprising! The old girl must have a great service record to be able to keep up with modern times, specially on those old auto boxes.
Dont get comfuse that how i got this much likes. I wrote this comment 2 years ago and when my brother got to know that i have got 7k views, he edited the comment. And i have forgotten what i wrote😅
I know it was humorous but Ive still got to do an "akchually" as that is not the case given that it is on the TNGA-B with a TNGA-C rear end mated to it.
Even if toyota made the new supra... they know they cant win against the old one too much nostalgia factor from fans... If its 600hp from factory than its too expensive...if its not 25000$ msrp it looks too cheap from inside. If its 4wd the original was 2wd... if its 2 wd they will say it cant put the power down... and we didnt even get to tuning part of it. Its just easier to point towards bmw. And take credit if people like it. Or blame bmw if they dont.
That MKIV is simply beautiful! Something about the mid 90's Japanese sports cars. Clean, simple lines. Aged well, and honestly, if I could, I'd take a stock MKIV any day over any modern car. Don't care about the performance really. I just think it will age better than most new cars and the interior dashboard has always been one of my favorites.
Yes you would prefer a car that looks like a catfish thats 30 years old that can possibly have many problems because of age over a modern car with a warranty and costing less
@@anti4107 I clearly stated "If I could". You don't buy a 90's sports car as you daily driver or daily commuter, in my opinion. So, yeah, IF I COULD, I would get a MKIV Supra over a modern car, because I wouldn't NEED it.
@@anti4107 hate to break it to you but the fact the the modern supras have a bmw drive train pretty much guaranty's issues that will be costly to fix outside of warranty and bad reliability, that 3.0 liter straight six doesn't have nearly as many things that can go wrong with it an will be a lot cheaper to fix in most cases. as far as looks its depends on the person I like the MKIV's look more but I don't hate the MKV either. I wish Toyota had not partnered with BMW for this car. One of the reasons the MKIV was so popular was the engine was really over built and took a lot more power while being somewhat reliable.
Hey bro, sorry for self promotion but this is the only way my content can gain engagement . i made a clean gaming video and I thought maybe you could leave a like and give me your opinion on it? ❤️🙏”.
@@Gamestararena it's ok😊. Though the quality of your video is not as crisp as the professional youtubers/streamers have. By the way what are your system specs and how did you record it? i have also been trying to screen record some games but it always ends up super choppy and bad😒
idk why people always compare stock with heavy tune cars, someone really said "if the mk4 was modified it would have won" yeah like no shit if the mk5 was modified it would have beaten the mk4 to
Not really if you look at the #'s and simply don't trust the BS test. The MKIV is MUCH slower (several car lengths through various distances and traps), handles much worse and gets much worse MPG. So no, not close. 2021 Supra: 60 mph: 3.8 sec 100 mph: 8.8 sec 130 mph: 15.2 sec 150 mph: 21.9 sec 1993 Supra Turbo: 60 mph: 4.6 sec 100 mph: 11.1 sec 130 mph: 19.9 sec 150 mph: 29.6 sec
If you treat something with respect and kindness it can last a thousand years Same thing with plants Water them Give them sun baths tell them nice things they will flourish but Don't water it don't give them sunbaths and don't tell them nice things they will slowly but surely end up on its death bed
It would do better if it had 320hp. The version in video is a JDM model which has 280hp. They provided data for euro spec model. A small mistake by carwow
@@ErnestDziadekGruz you do know even the jdm one has 320hp. But in Japan it is just advertised as 280 because of the gentlemen’s agreement . Same story with the skylines and Mitsubishi gto.
@@coldinfusion no, they don't. They have different turbos, injectors than Euro models. I'm deeep af in this topic. They Dyno at ~300. Btw Mk5 supra dyno at 385 hp instead of advertised 340
with the amount of research ive done on the 2.0L 2020 Toyota Supra, honestly, I'm sold. Id much rather spend the money on the 2.0L and make slight modifications under the 6k cost space between the 2.0L and 3.0L.
You won't regret it. It is cheaper to buy and to own, way more agile with better handling and braking due to much lower weight, and it is faster from stop until you reach non-public roads speeds/conditions. Unless you track it or you are obssessed with better engine sound, there is no point in getting the 3L.
@@justsaiyansteve bruh stop with this boring old joke, my eyes are hurting because everywhere i look in this comentary bar its just, UuR SuPrA vS BmW uauaUAuauauauaUU, cmon man.
@@mikamika9781 well we're talking about mass produced cars drag racing that are of the same class but several decades apart. I'm not talking about a land speed record car from the 30s drag racing a Camry bro
@@freakymrq i dont get it, u can easily find 1 gen mustang and drag race it with a brand new stang. If its bcz u find that the gap is not that important well dont forget in 90s environment was not a thing
I would love for someone to finally record a race between cars like this where the winner outperforms the others after completing at least 2 laps on a REAL Racetrack that has not just a straightaway, but winding curves, twists and sharp turns.
Haha stock 2JZ GTE makes 320hp when turbos are replaced it goes up to 800hp according to the turbo you choose. After 800hp internsls for the 2JZ needs to be Changed.
@@toomuchisaid928 Of course a 30 yrs old car will lose to 2 cars built yesterday with launch control and 4 more gears in wet conditions, who would ever think the mk4 ever had a chance.
you should get a mk4 with the turbo invertor, that sound is to die for.. and do a full mile to see the difference vs the newer supras would be really good.
@@badbreedftw3337 the ratios from the manual gearbox are massively different remember its a 4 gear auto from the 90s so it has longer gears and its slow to change between them, the 6 speed manual would keep much better what doesn’t mean it would win, its almost 30 years old i appreciate so much that being that old it can keep up with 2020 cars
I love how you can hear the Mk4 driver smiling from ear to ear during the races. And to be fair, the old girl did great with her old slushbox automatic.
The MK5 A90 Supra is not a bad vehicle at all! And it would've costed Toyota alot of funds to "make a new Supra on their own". And for the record , the 2JZ doesn't actually belong to the Supra(A80 MK4) , it actually belongs to the Toyota JZA147/Lexus GS Sedan that introduced the 2JZ Series engine. Long before the MK4 A80 Supra debuted a couple of years later. P.S. Toyota Supra MK4 A80 sales were poor! And the only best selling Supra to date is the MK3 A70 Supra. Go figure
The base model Supra is impressive! I'm loving the new looks too. Of course the Mark IV is seriously impressive with its 320 hp. I think the 3.0 liter BMW engine sounds fantastic!
@@____fakhri nah. The mark 4 is the real deal. The new ones are a prius and a yaris compared to it. And opinions cannot be balanced, otherwise everyone would think the same way or have pretty much the same ideas
2.0 supra is not too shabby off the line, it's smaller displacement does start to take it's toll on the rolling races though. Not bad overall for the cheapest option supra. 😊
A 25 year old sports car is going to be faster than a modern day daily driver. It's not as simple as "It's old, it must be good to be faster than new car". The MK5 isn't exactly revolutionary, and a stock MK4 is pretty ass.
@@garage5125 1) Yes you can 2) Can YOU get the MK4 to 1000hp? You make it sound like it doesn't cost a SHIT ton of money to get the MK4 to 1000hp, and even after you get your precious MK4 to 1000hp, it can only ever go in a straight line, car handles like ass.
@@KingBarney 1) yes you can but not for long. it HAS some reason why those engines are popular by tuners...2)i know how to, though i ve never done it, i am not gonna lie. but i know than you don´t have to swap out half of the engine internals as you would do in many other engines. Handling is not that bad really, unless you can´t drive, and if you cannot drive MK4 supra due to the chassis handling, you are not supposed to drive any vehicle that has more than like 60 horsepower. it is a rear wheel drive car so it tends to skid, but it is however predictable. if you ever driven a GAZ 24 volga V8, you will have the mk4 supra as a relaxing car with brilliant handling... And last but not least. tell me what engine of this displacement can take 1000 brake horsepower and lasting as long or longer than 2JZ can....
@@garage5125 you are wrong, the bmw engine is a looooooooooot better than the 2jz stock to stock, and you can get 1000hp from the bmw engine someone done it already, and even those 1000hp on the bmw engine will be enough for 2000hp on the 2jz, hp numbers aint everything
I’m impressed by the 2 liter! On the paper is a lot less than the 3 liter but in reality it is quite similar in velocity! Also being much lighter allows to be faster in acceleration
@@bait-cz5uj remove that restrictive exhaust and the 2 cats, throw in a 3.5 inch or 4 inch full exhaust and watch the sound and performance wake up :-) On my 98, after doing the basic bolt ons, 3 inch intake, 3 inch intercooler piping, remove that gay ass mechanical fan, and the full 3.5 inch exhaust (no cats), i swear i gained an easy 50 hp ...
I’ve driven the new 3.0 litre manual but really want to drive the 2.0 litre manual….but they don’t make one! The 2 litre is more nimble and more fun to drive than the 3 litre.
????????????? automatic mk4 in rain vs dual clutch mk5 + launch control + stability control and traction control ? haha, in jp it would never be compared, put them in the dry, a manual turbo mk4 with a good pilot, only with exhaust vs mk5 GR
Actually , the 2JZ engine cars happen to be very desirable , at least in the US. People have paid as much as twice the value for a used 2JZ engine Toyota or Lexus just for the engine. Very similar to something like a Type-R Integra , or a 1990's NSX.
I don't care peoples opinions. MK4 Supra is a very good sporty car with its power, handling, brakes and looking. Its just a good car and yes without mods or with mods. If someone saying this car is bad he dosn't know anything about cars or he just trying to be different.
@@stevenmorales9063 Mmmhhyeahhh no idk, that's a 20 almost 30 year old auto trans compared to a new auto trans so maybe a manual would've been closer to the Mk5's auto trans in terms of shift speed and for sure would've been faster than the Mk4's auto, but still miles off the Mk5's.
@@afoegaming1148 everything on that car stock is beautiful besides the rims. Fuck everything on Hyundai Shitbox's are ugly but at least the rims fit the car. The mk4 stock rims look like someone sent the wrong file over to the factory and toyota didnt have the money or time to fix it.
@@Joe-rq5cv the 2.0 looks so clean being all white, like a god ready to slay those who look upon it with sour thoughts. Too bad its nothing more than a small dog with a loud bar....nvm its not even that loud.
Late update for watchers of this video, but Papadakis Racing did a video series on building the MkV into the new Formula Drift car for their team, and with simple rod-and-piston upgrades the BMW engine has been reliably putting down over 1000HP on every run. Papadakis did a video on the engine teardown itself on his channel
For an archaic four speed auto, the 2JZ did pretty well for itself. Could make out that unmistakable 2JZ noise at various points. Turns out even an automatic Mk IV Supra is still a Mk IV Supra.
@@nikodaq it’s special. And special cars tend to be overrated. It just depends who you are, if you like good cars for the money, than the Supra is not it. But if you like special cars, then the Supra is hard to argue against.
@@pipeqez911 I agree the only tuned supra I like are from TRD and toms as more sports car like than gt and any engine tune shouldn't be crazy powerful but user friendly
I came to this video as a huge MK4 fan and expecting the MK5 3.0 to win, but ended the video considering buying the 2.0 lol. I’m not a regular track/drag driver so I feel like the small engine will be quicker in the city streets, better on gas, and great for long-distance, making for a better daily driver than the 6 cylinders.
Same reason I got the 2.0. I don't track it at all. It's my daily. I also got a stupid good deal and got it for 12k less than asking and 8k under MSRP, due to them mismarking it. plus another 11k with a trade in. Got it brand new 2023 for under 30k over all so I couldn't pass it up
Also, a lot of reviews say the 2.0 handles better on curves due to the lighter weight and how the engine actually sits as a front mid engine and it's behind the front axle so the handling is "better"
@@TheNEWB13I've got a 2015 228i convertible that I just purchased off my dad. It has the predecessor to the 2 liter turbo in this video with slightly lower figures. While I do wish for more power sometimes(who doesn't), it's not slow. BMW lies about/underrates their performance figures, and it can be around 30 hp and lb/ft higher than on paper. So it's about twice as powerful as the Corolla I used to drive. The consensus seems to be that the 4 cylinder leads to a much better weight distribution due to a lighter nose. My dad optioned the sport suspension and M brake package for it which makes it handle like a dream. I obviously won't be able to beat a 3.0L turbo 6cyl M235i in a race or sound as good, but it has enough usable power for a fun daily driver sports car.
As far as sound, if you really want you can put a new exhaust on for a different note, so other than raw top end power there really isn't any difference.
The mk4 is as beautiful to me today as it was when i was a teenager when it launched! I really like the new supra but id have the mk4 without even considering it if i had the chance.great video as allways 👍
correct me if im wrong, but didnt all japanese sportscars back then have "320hp" because of some agreement but they all cheated and put more HP in than stated?
To be honest, 10-Year-olds now will probably be more enthusiastic about the Mk5 (A90) Supra. They will know about the BMW connection and 340hp. Only 10-years-olds of 10-20 years ago will fanboy over the Mk4 (A80) version, that can be tuned to 1000hp.
@@magnustan841 i dont know why the new supra gets so much hate. At least they didnt botch it like the new NSX and they didnt kill it off like the Evos and Eclipse’s.
Well, except for the fact its not keeping up in any aspect at all... The only aspect where its actually saving face, this drag race, its still losing to all variants of its modern counterparts. Objectively, the 2.0 is running circles around it in tech, refinement, precision, efficiency, safety,...
Well the modern has to get away with a lot of weight for crash safety and dreadful emission controls. That's what brings Bimmers down nowadays. Also the 3.0 is quite tunable.
The old MK4 was hated and not noticed when it was first launched. It only got attention in Fast and Furious. Then fanboys came in, “oh it comes in stock at 1000hp” “it’s the fastest car out there!” “I love the mk4 better than the new mk5” “manual gear mk4 can beat everything” ☠️☠️☠️
Hi Mat Watson here. Which of these three cars would you pick if I was to give you one of them for free? (disclaimer... I'm not REALLY giving you one for free 😂)
First
Mk4 all day
Doug's tongue is huge he'll beat you with it Mat.
Bmw
@@ravenin9612 nah, and nobody cares
Would be awesome to see an R34 GTR on the channel if possible!
He could get blackpanthaa but his r34 is single turbo moded
What the hell are you doing here
Edit: I just realized this was kinda rude
ua-cam.com/video/DL3UuRGY_Ss/v-deo.html !!!
@@migepogon1011 yeah lol didn't expect a Minecraft youtuber to be here what a pleasant surprise!
Also I once saw a comment from crisfix on an investment video so I guess they all have hobbies other than their main one
Yes!! Omg yes!!! I love r33 GTRs. Imagine racing r32 r33 and r34!
12 Year olds: Impossible, the supra should have 1000HP stock from the factory
yeah they are so annoying(also supra mk4 is my favorite car)
ahaha, true
@@blackghost9627 - but being honest, there's nothing more menacing that a mk4 with huge power lol. A stock varient is a lovely thing to see though for sure.
POV: They watched the race
2Minutes Later: but but but the supra has 1000hp the BMW is cheating *cry's*
Shit car
I love how enthusiastic the driver in the old supra is. Rightfully so!
Im really surprised and glad he left it stock. Im honestly getting sick of every single one of em having 700+ hp(not rly sick 😂,but you get the point).
@@chubz01 it's auto not manual if it's manual maybe can win on b48
@@mohammadmohammad1118 ik its an auto,and yeeeah,it kinda sucks,ofc the manual is my preference,but still.
@@chubz01 Auto is quite alright if u wanna leave it stock i guess...
Manual MK IV are just a fortune
@@chubz01 if i had one i’d give it about 450hp and some. nicer wheels and exhaust
I’ve been waiting for someone to do a race like this
The three things mat watson hates
1. Fake Exhaust tips
2. Soft limiter
3. BMW Launch control systems
*fake vents
*scratchy plastic
Losing to Yiannimize
*just for men
Hard plastic
I was thinking:
“How they managed to find a stock mk4 supr... oh... It’s an auto
Imagine the L's he got back in the day when he showed up to his homies with an automatic Supra 🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣
@@VlOREL people place more importance on that now than they did back in the day
You can boost up an auto too. I've seen one with 650bhp
Tbh I'd rather have an auto mk4 over the new BMW supras
It's funny today, if you wanna go slow, get a manual, but a zf auto will always be faster.
Let's remember we're talking about a car thats built in the mid 90s. And to still be able to hang with very recent modern cars is a testament to Toyota engineers back in the day.
Actually, it wasn’t all Toyota....Yamaha, Asin and yes BMW took also part at Engineering the old Supra....that’s why Toyota ask BMW for cooperation with the new Supra, because BMW also took part at engineering the old Supra, as the only no Japanese company....many people forget that
@@m3competitionracer788 to be honest I didn't know that. I did look it up on the wiki, I don't know if I'm being blind or the wiki is wrong but it said noting about bmw or yamaha
Idk, not that weird. 320hp vs 260 and 340, albeit with worse tech (4 speed auto, lol). Another example of a mildly modded e36 328i beating a Hyundai i30n, which is 270hp? Older doesn't necessarily mean slower
@@danieljones112 because he's probably reading off forums. There is no proof of that. There is so much false information on the internet.
@@madkas14 The part about Yamah is true tho, i'm not sure which parts, but there was some cooperation with Yamaha.
The 2.0 puts up quite an impressive performance actually, was surprising! The old girl must have a great service record to be able to keep up with modern times, specially on those old auto boxes.
Dont get comfuse that how i got this much likes. I wrote this comment 2 years ago and when my brother got to know that i have got 7k views, he edited the comment.
And i have forgotten what i wrote😅
Ik lol
Well it was Disgusting to see one...
Someone B!TCH slap Carwow for using a 4-speed automatic transmission Supra Turbo which is uncommon and what NO ONE aspires to own.
He could at least find one with tires that werent 25 years old, or one that has looked after its paint.
@@williamlevy1981 the auto aren’t rare if you want a stock one and considering they are racing the new Supra that are also auto that’s probably why .
Can we just take a moment and appreciate the older Supra for giving a tough fight even after being 20 years old!!
Try almost 30
That should be a slap on the new supra's face
Also an Auto, a manual on a dry track would be better.
No.
@@LynGriffiths70 And a shitty auto to be honest. This car is amazing.
12 year olds when the figure out the mk4 supra doesn’t have 1000 hp stock: WHATTTTT THEEE FAWK
😂😂😂 Jack denmo?
😂😂
Due to gentleman policy 😢
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏
For some reason, my brain keeps saying "HOW THE FVCK DID MK 4 LOSE?"
Forgot it's a stock lmao
Same with me
@@sushanthdaggumati9869 xD
Don’t worry, everything is stock so you will see who is the king
Tbh if it was manuel it wouldve done business
same hp the MK4 would lose to the new supras too. which makes sense since its an old car
The 2JZ: stock -1000hp- 320hp
**surprised pikachu face**
And still nearly as fast with no traction control and a 4speed auto pretty sad really
@@blueblood5297 the new supra is a track car tho
Yesssssir
@@blueblood5297 youre pathetic
Yes, the 2jz have 320 stock
But
SuPrA gOt 1000hP sToCk
Toyota: Enginering a brand new supra is impossible, its too much time and money."
*_Builds the yaris gr from nothing_*
Even lotus uses toyota's engine
building Yaris comes with no expectations from public...
I know it was humorous but Ive still got to do an "akchually" as that is not the case given that it is on the TNGA-B with a TNGA-C rear end mated to it.
Even if toyota made the new supra... they know they cant win against the old one too much nostalgia factor from fans... If its 600hp from factory than its too expensive...if its not 25000$ msrp it looks too cheap from inside. If its 4wd the original was 2wd... if its 2 wd they will say it cant put the power down... and we didnt even get to tuning part of it.
Its just easier to point towards bmw. And take credit if people like it. Or blame bmw if they dont.
Ikr
Lol "Anyway doesn't matter GR Yaris, everything is forgiven"
That cracked me up
That thing might have same 3 cylinder engine from I8
That MKIV is simply beautiful!
Something about the mid 90's Japanese sports cars. Clean, simple lines. Aged well, and honestly, if I could, I'd take a stock MKIV any day over any modern car. Don't care about the performance really. I just think it will age better than most new cars and the interior dashboard has always been one of my favorites.
Yes you would prefer a car that looks like a catfish thats 30 years old that can possibly have many problems because of age over a modern car with a warranty and costing less
@@anti4107 I clearly stated "If I could".
You don't buy a 90's sports car as you daily driver or daily commuter, in my opinion.
So, yeah, IF I COULD, I would get a MKIV Supra over a modern car, because I wouldn't NEED it.
@@anti4107 hate to break it to you but the fact the the modern supras have a bmw drive train pretty much guaranty's issues that will be costly to fix outside of warranty and bad reliability, that 3.0 liter straight six doesn't have nearly as many things that can go wrong with it an will be a lot cheaper to fix in most cases. as far as looks its depends on the person I like the MKIV's look more but I don't hate the MKV either. I wish Toyota had not partnered with BMW for this car. One of the reasons the MKIV was so popular was the engine was really over built and took a lot more power while being somewhat reliable.
@@anti4107😂 Love hearing ignorant opinions.
Carwow: beats the mk4 with both mk5 versions
12 year olds: so you have chosen *death*
😂😂😂 why is this comment underrated
@@ZareaabAslam what?
I would just get a lightly used MKIV for ½ the price of the new Zupra. £27K is not too bad, probably even less here in the US.
12 year olds:
*impossible*
@@ZareaabAslam what
2:50
12 year olds realizing it doesn’t sound like an AK47 and stututu out of the factory: 👁👄👁
They ruined the mk4
@@0livijf they really did.
Sthuthuthu😂😂😂 mxhosa
12yr old fanboys: The sUpRA hAs 1000hp sToCK
@@rensomusni8419 not all Supra have 1000hp because stock ones are 320-321hp
Surprised Mat didn't include the GR Yaris for "comparison"
Hey bro, sorry for self promotion but this is the only way my content can gain engagement . i made a clean gaming video and I thought maybe you could leave a like and give me your opinion on it? ❤️🙏”.
@@Gamestararena shut up
@@Gamestararena f u c c o f f
@@Gamestararena it's ok😊. Though the quality of your video is not as crisp as the professional youtubers/streamers have. By the way what are your system specs and how did you record it? i have also been trying to screen record some games but it always ends up super choppy and bad😒
In the last tuned yaris vs stock yaris video the stock yaris did 13.3 second which is exactly the same as the new 3.0 supra
A multiple decades old car keeping up with 2020s, this is why the Supra was so popular back in the day and still is!
The old automatic Supra wasn't half bad in this part, still having enough guts to face its more modern equivalent.
‘Having the guts’ .... a machine
How long
J crew is
💔🎒
would love to see what a manual mk4 would do against the auto mk4, its really not as slow shifting as people think but the taller ratios will hurt it
This is the drag race we all needed but never requested
Nice job Mat, always bringing out fantastic races
It's Mat, not Matt
ციკლოვკა
Can we talk about how the flag girl being replaced by a guy and still using her voice
oh god i just realised lmfaoo
Shhh we shouldn't mention that.. 😂😂
@Erok Magnag u are funny, deal with it
@Erok Magnag scared
Sorry but that is the flag girl .... shes going through changes
These types of videos pain the MK4 fans to watch as they refuse to believe the MK5 is the better car stock for stock.
Exactly
It's a bmw with launch control 😂
@@Givelasagna 2j can’t compete 😂😂😂
@@ghetto-lemon "mk5 supra" is still a bmw 🤣
@@Givelasagna interior, performance, and reliability. one of the best pound for pound sport cars on the market. thx bmw
“100% Toyota Supra”
“Toyota Engine”
I often wonder if Yamaha or Asin gets salty about people saying that.
Actually the 2JZ GTE is German.
@@squeekfrogman8787 mate can you please explain. I am not trying to argue. I just want to learn more about the 2JZ.
@@stupidhotdog4173 I'm not trying to antagonize anyone. Just a bit of trivia. 👍
www.supraforums.com/threads/help-with-2jz-history-origin.641663/
Jza80-yamaha motor, lotus body. Put together by Toyota
@@squeekfrogman8787 thanks for the info mate. Have a great day.
"she's a lovely old girl"
i love it
Joke aside, supra is actually lovely old girl
@@zephyr646 cringe
Yes but automatic👎👎
@@zephyr646 ikr it’s like from 4 years ago
@Mo Reviews thats a bullshit
UK based car reviewers: *gets great rwd cars for a drag*
UK: *Rains*
UK things
It’s normal there
@@greenscreenmachine6405 cap
@@TayT300 Uh, what? Clearly you don't live in the UK, so how would you know?
They're not great
Toyoto Supra 90s all time favourite.. hope toyoto continues to make their own Supra engine 🔥
Toyota*
@@mbza.😂😂😂
idk why people always compare stock with heavy tune cars, someone really said "if the mk4 was modified it would have won" yeah like no shit if the mk5 was modified it would have beaten the mk4 to
Yup, the B58 engine has a TON of tuning potential. Killer of an engine that people have yet to acknowledge.
If it had a manual it would’ve won
Nah cos if the mk4 was manual it would beat the 2l new supra, not the 3l one tho
The bmw i6 is tunable but supra i6 is a lot more tunable
@@DMartinov your never gonna out shift a DCT
Now this is what we all wanted
Doug Demuros nose is the new length metric
I didn’t want it. Supra is way overrated
Supras are over rated LOOL
Not me...
My name AJ too
30 years later and the old one is so close to new one.
Not really if you look at the #'s and simply don't trust the BS test. The MKIV is MUCH slower (several car lengths through various distances and traps), handles much worse and gets much worse MPG. So no, not close.
2021 Supra:
60 mph: 3.8 sec
100 mph: 8.8 sec
130 mph: 15.2 sec
150 mph: 21.9 sec
1993 Supra Turbo:
60 mph: 4.6 sec
100 mph: 11.1 sec
130 mph: 19.9 sec
150 mph: 29.6 sec
2jz... no shit ! what do you say now? i renounce my previous statement
2jz needs a manual gearbox .
If you treat something with respect and kindness it can last a thousand years Same thing with plants Water them Give them sun baths tell them nice things they will flourish but Don't water it don't give them sunbaths and don't tell them nice things they will slowly but surely end up on its death bed
@@iheartwatches but you can do whatever you want with a 2jz, while with the bmw of a z4 not to much
the active aero on the front of that MK4 is awesome!!! :D
The fact that the mk4 is tossing a brand new turbocharged 4pot with a proper trans that is actually somewhatbuilt for racing. Very impressive
Considering mk4 was meant to be a cruiser
Unless it races from 0mph, sure
G to be
@@ritawant1033 stfu bot
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Can we talk about how relevant a 90s car is even in stock format now a days
It costed 65k in 1998 back when 65k was a lot of money so I would expect it to be somewhat fast
@@Mano_421 this. It cost more 23 years ago than the 2.0 does now.
And it seems to have still the full power like in the 90ˋs 😲
@@cd.knuckles Still far more relevant these days than the 911 Turbo of the time, which cost substantially more.
Yes, watch BMW 328 e36 vs Hyundai i30n
"If Toyota, had just built their own Supra, and their own launch control, it would work!" Lol 😆 lol 😆 hilarious!
Why didn’t they? They should have built something that would compete with the GTR and 911 Turbo S. Wtf Toyota?
@@echutch yeah this is what i mean, the mark 4 supra is the competitor for gtr and nsx and now just a puny sports car
Legit
Epic roast.😂
@@echutch because it was much cheaper for toyota to partner with bmw sports cars do not make much money for companies
the children’s minds are blown rn
It’s pretty amazing how well the Mk4 holds up. I imagine one with a manual transmission would have fared even better.
It would do better if it had 320hp. The version in video is a JDM model which has 280hp. They provided data for euro spec model. A small mistake by carwow
@@ErnestDziadekGruz you do know even the jdm one has 320hp. But in Japan it is just advertised as 280 because of the gentlemen’s agreement . Same story with the skylines and Mitsubishi gto.
@@coldinfusion no, they don't. They have different turbos, injectors than Euro models. I'm deeep af in this topic. They Dyno at ~300.
Btw Mk5 supra dyno at 385 hp instead of advertised 340
@@coldinfusion I have played enough Gran Turismo to know that it has 280 hp...
@@SuperGeronimo999 lol
Someone's feelings are going to get hurt!!
Doug's feelings
Wow 2 self promotions
@@Gamestararena sure ill like is it the newest vid
indeed there is, i’m leaning on the B58 over 2JZ personally on stock obviously
"Someone"
You mean 12 year old fanboys?
The old supra is slow because it lacks one thing
"Family"
Wha🤣
Live your life a quarter mile at a time
Edit: I mean it had its two younger cousins present 🤣
@@xdragonwarfarex804 younger
@@xavimcclelland yes yes my bad younger
with the amount of research ive done on the 2.0L 2020 Toyota Supra, honestly, I'm sold. Id much rather spend the money on the 2.0L and make slight modifications under the 6k cost space between the 2.0L and 3.0L.
You won't regret it. It is cheaper to buy and to own, way more agile with better handling and braking due to much lower weight, and it is faster from stop until you reach non-public roads speeds/conditions. Unless you track it or you are obssessed with better engine sound, there is no point in getting the 3L.
You’re an idiot if you don’t get the 3.0
That old supra is seriously timeless.
Way better than the new ones it was hanging with the newer ones better than i thought. The mk5 is not worth it better cars for the price
Its a toyota vs bmws whatd you expect.
@@justsaiyansteve bruh stop with this boring old joke, my eyes are hurting because everywhere i look in this comentary bar its just, UuR SuPrA vS BmW uauaUAuauauauaUU, cmon man.
same shit happen with the old R34 they still in game xd
@@wtfysaac but it pretty much is a BMW, Most of the parts are made by BMW
This was a real drag race because:
Mat hasn't chosen the fastest car
He lost in the brake test as usual.
@@iwantsexseemyvideo464 fug
The fact that they are able to race the stock mk4 is just truly amazing
It's not really that amazing is it.
@@MrJungle123 for it's age, it's keeping up with well
@@freakymrq mmmh ? i've seen 100 years old car racing... How its truly amazing
@@mikamika9781 well we're talking about mass produced cars drag racing that are of the same class but several decades apart.
I'm not talking about a land speed record car from the 30s drag racing a Camry bro
@@freakymrq i dont get it, u can easily find 1 gen mustang and drag race it with a brand new stang.
If its bcz u find that the gap is not that important well dont forget in 90s environment was not a thing
I would love for someone to finally record a race between cars like this where the winner outperforms the others after completing at least 2 laps on a REAL Racetrack that has not just a straightaway, but winding curves, twists and sharp turns.
9 year old be like: This is fake, MK4 is 1000hp stock. EDIT Thanks for the likes!
Yeah they are kidding they don't that you have to tune it up stock is 320 hp
Haha stock 2JZ GTE makes 320hp when turbos are replaced it goes up to 800hp according to the turbo you choose. After 800hp internsls for the 2JZ needs to be Changed.
@@marcelkahr4615 i mean stock 320hp is still powerful
@@Th3Ran it's still damn slow against the new 3.0l supra
@@Thomas-iz4tj Exactly but the mk4 supra is more than 20 years old now (if I'm not mistaken). Still 320 was a "big" number back then
Imagine MK4 vs R34 vs RX7 now that would be amazing 🔥
I think the R34 would win quite easily.
add in NSX!
Someone overdosed on a Fast & Furious
@@showtimeseth6287 yes. Imagine all the iconic JDM cars in a race
R34 would definitely win, and I'm saying that from someone who thinks that they're overated, it's just the fact that it has AWD
Imagine if the Mk4 had a manual gearbox instead of the 4-speed auto
It would still lose
@@hamasaa06 probably, but the race would have been a lot closer. Especially in comparison to the 2.0L new Supra
@@TomHenksYT true
I was surprised by the fact that the manual was a 6 spd yet the auto was a 4 spd
@@TomHenksYT it lost get over it..new vs old.
@@toomuchisaid928 Of course a 30 yrs old car will lose to 2 cars built yesterday with launch control and 4 more gears in wet conditions, who would ever think the mk4 ever had a chance.
Never mind old supra you are the champion of the hearts!
Imagine a race between the Supra vs. the R34
R34 might win
Yessssssss
r34 is awd, so i would say ez win
4WD + RB
Turn this into a petition
I'd take the old one. We don't see many "stock" ones here in CA!
It’s such a beautiful car man
Only the stupid drive stock Supra
@@jayjaysylvester560 It's garbage stock
Any sane man would take the old one over the new one lol
@@defyyourlogic487 Stock vs Stock the new one is better
Toyota: "burns down Mat's house*
Mat: "GR Yaris, everything is forgiven"
😂 😂
you should get a mk4 with the turbo invertor, that sound is to die for.. and do a full mile to see the difference vs the newer supras would be really good.
It would of been nice to have the mk4 6 speed supra for this race 🏁
Would’ve been the same, can’t beat a 8speed with a single clutch 6 speed manual
@@badbreedftw3337 It's not a DCT. It's a planetary gear torque converter.
@@badbreedftw3337 the ratios from the manual gearbox are massively different remember its a 4 gear auto from the 90s so it has longer gears and its slow to change between them, the 6 speed manual would keep much better what doesn’t mean it would win, its almost 30 years old i appreciate so much that being that old it can keep up with 2020 cars
Would have helped.
FAX and atleast a decent tune 😒
I love how you can hear the Mk4 driver smiling from ear to ear during the races. And to be fair, the old girl did great with her old slushbox automatic.
Yeah, the smiling bit is the most important in the end. Love the car you drive. :)
@@ritawant3189 never seen a sex bot do that before
The MK5 A90 Supra is not a bad vehicle at all!
And it would've costed Toyota alot of funds to "make a new Supra on their own". And for the record , the 2JZ doesn't actually belong to the Supra(A80 MK4) , it actually belongs to the Toyota JZA147/Lexus GS Sedan that introduced the 2JZ Series engine. Long before the MK4 A80 Supra debuted a couple of years later.
P.S.
Toyota Supra MK4 A80 sales were poor! And the only best selling Supra to date is the MK3 A70 Supra. Go figure
Supra loses
12 years old supra fanboys: IMPOSSIBLE
actually.. Supra won
*loses
And they’ll say “it’s fake” 😂
But all the vehicles are supras
Its because it isn't tuned mate
The base model Supra is impressive! I'm loving the new looks too. Of course the Mark IV is seriously impressive with its 320 hp. I think the 3.0 liter BMW engine sounds fantastic!
love me some neutral comment, perfectly balanced as all things should be
@@____fakhri nah. The mark 4 is the real deal. The new ones are a prius and a yaris compared to it. And opinions cannot be balanced, otherwise everyone would think the same way or have pretty much the same ideas
@@JL-wf2wp and there’s this guy
@@____fakhri the duality of susiety
@@JL-wf2wp why are supra fans so low iq
no one:
Supra kids: *the Mk4 will obviously win this race*
1000hp stock supra HAHAHAHAHAH
Yes it goes 500 kmh in reverse ^_^
Forgot to mention that nuclear reacton is placed under the hood
And then it got taken to Gapplebees!
0-60 in 0,1 sec on reverse
If it wasn't stock it is bound to win.
2.0 supra is not too shabby off the line, it's smaller displacement does start to take it's toll on the rolling races though. Not bad overall for the cheapest option supra. 😊
Agree i reckon a 4 cylinder auto doing 13.6 1/4 is very impressive.
Its amazing how a 25 years old car can keep with a fast new car
A 25 year old sports car is going to be faster than a modern day daily driver.
It's not as simple as "It's old, it must be good to be faster than new car". The MK5 isn't exactly revolutionary, and a stock MK4 is pretty ass.
@@KingBarney but stock.... you cannot tune the new one to 1000 brake horsepower....
@@garage5125 1) Yes you can
2) Can YOU get the MK4 to 1000hp? You make it sound like it doesn't cost a SHIT ton of money to get the MK4 to 1000hp, and even after you get your precious MK4 to 1000hp, it can only ever go in a straight line, car handles like ass.
@@KingBarney 1) yes you can but not for long. it HAS some reason why those engines are popular by tuners...2)i know how to, though i ve never done it, i am not gonna lie. but i know than you don´t have to swap out half of the engine internals as you would do in many other engines. Handling is not that bad really, unless you can´t drive, and if you cannot drive MK4 supra due to the chassis handling, you are not supposed to drive any vehicle that has more than like 60 horsepower. it is a rear wheel drive car so it tends to skid, but it is however predictable. if you ever driven a GAZ 24 volga V8, you will have the mk4 supra as a relaxing car with brilliant handling... And last but not least. tell me what engine of this displacement can take 1000 brake horsepower and lasting as long or longer than 2JZ can....
@@garage5125 you are wrong, the bmw engine is a looooooooooot better than the 2jz stock to stock, and you can get 1000hp from the bmw engine someone done it already, and even those 1000hp on the bmw engine will be enough for 2000hp on the 2jz, hp numbers aint everything
I’m impressed by the 2 liter! On the paper is a lot less than the 3 liter but in reality it is quite similar in velocity!
Also being much lighter allows to be faster in acceleration
I never realised how dead a stock 2jz sounds 🤣😅
12 yr olds are shocked rn 😂
Its because it has a back box on it to muffle out the sound
Yes when i got my 98 Supra it was bone stock and 30k miles. It was very quiet.
Only dead sound because we have advanced. When it came out it was top notch.
@@bait-cz5uj remove that restrictive exhaust and the 2 cats, throw in a 3.5 inch or 4 inch full exhaust and watch the sound and performance wake up :-)
On my 98, after doing the basic bolt ons, 3 inch intake, 3 inch intercooler piping, remove that gay ass mechanical fan, and the full 3.5 inch exhaust (no cats), i swear i gained an easy 50 hp ...
I’ve driven the new 3.0 litre manual but really want to drive the 2.0 litre manual….but they don’t make one! The 2 litre is more nimble and more fun to drive than the 3 litre.
Supra fanboys when the mk4 doesn’t have 10,000 stock horsepower and run a 1.7 second quarter mile
@@toronto543ontario6 ruined the joke
I love the supra but this made me laugh so hard cuz its true xDDD
When 10-second car means it does 0-60 in 10 seconds 😳
Id still pick it.
????????????? automatic mk4 in rain vs dual clutch mk5 + launch control + stability control and traction control ? haha, in jp it would never be compared, put them in the dry, a manual turbo mk4 with a good pilot, only with exhaust vs mk5 GR
9:12 That extending front lip on the Mk4 tho 👌
Actually , the 2JZ engine cars happen to be very desirable , at least in the US.
People have paid as much as twice the value for a used 2JZ engine Toyota or Lexus
just for the engine. Very similar to something like a Type-R Integra , or a 1990's NSX.
I think he said not desirable cause it's an automatic.
I thinknhe knows that
I don't care peoples opinions. MK4 Supra is a very good sporty car with its power, handling, brakes and looking. Its just a good car and yes without mods or with mods. If someone saying this car is bad he dosn't know anything about cars or he just trying to be different.
So you're telling me the only MK4 Supra they could find, was a 4 speed Auto? 😭 cries in manual...
@s l cap
@@Alex96194 not cap...straight fax
They're all auto so it was fair
@@Alex96194 👨🦲
@@stevenmorales9063 Mmmhhyeahhh no idk, that's a 20 almost 30 year old auto trans compared to a new auto trans so maybe a manual would've been closer to the Mk5's auto trans in terms of shift speed and for sure would've been faster than the Mk4's auto, but still miles off the Mk5's.
Supras: Hey dad 👋
OG Supra: I dont know these guys, they live in Germany.
They're affair children
@Sandaru Pramodha ??
@@Leo-gc5ul new supra is made in Austria
@@kmann4343 where exactly?
@@Leo-gc5ul i think Graz ... not sure though
Japan in the 90s: 276 hp gentleman's agreement
Actually Japan in the 90s: All sports cars are pushing 320
Japan is a rubbish country to live in
@@V_For_Vigilante probably the most technologically developed country in the world
@@Fizzglg But they have the hardest inmigrantion rules in the world
@@n.s.a3824 that’s why you stay inside😂
@이디어틱크루 nah I'm American lmao
Its 2 years now , that supra was not even that famous 😢❤
“GR Yaris. Everything is forgiven”... amen 😅
Yaris is a mazda
Everything is certainly not forgiven in markets where Toyota makes all its profit but refuses to sell their best cars.
@@mauriciouribe9144 Well the GR Yaris barely has anything in common with the normal econobox.
@@mauriciouribe9144 That's the US one, not the European Yaris. The GR Yaris is based on the European Yaris.
Useless yaris
The mk4 just looks so gorgeous out there next to these two wow.
It does it looks better then the orhers but those rims are still ugly asf
@@afoegaming1148 everything on that car stock is beautiful besides the rims. Fuck everything on Hyundai Shitbox's are ugly but at least the rims fit the car. The mk4 stock rims look like someone sent the wrong file over to the factory and toyota didnt have the money or time to fix it.
Strongly disagree
I think its the other way around, I thought the Mk4 looked DECENT but next to those two it stands no chance. In looks.
@@Joe-rq5cv the 2.0 looks so clean being all white, like a god ready to slay those who look upon it with sour thoughts. Too bad its nothing more than a small dog with a loud bar....nvm its not even that loud.
27 years later: shaves 0.2 of a second off the quarter mile
Dry conditions the new Gen had gone 12.1 all stock. Traction was clearly the issue here
Yes BMW clearly progressed in 30 years, it can beat a 30 year old stock supra... pfff... 😂
@@jevgeniardassov you know bmw m8 does the quarter mile in 10,9 right? Toyota could have choosen more hp if they wanted to.
if the new Supra had de proportions of the FT-1 and at least a M5 engine (which can be tuned to over 1000hp) it would be brilliant
@@sunkingozy5051 the new toyota supra engine can handle 700hp
Late update for watchers of this video, but Papadakis Racing did a video series on building the MkV into the new Formula Drift car for their team, and with simple rod-and-piston upgrades the BMW engine has been reliably putting down over 1000HP on every run. Papadakis did a video on the engine teardown itself on his channel
This vid feels weird because he never said “im sat”
Maybe he is learning English
@@Skirk84 he is speaking english?
@@KevinR3i Sat is not a verb, using it that way just makes you sound uneducated. Which is so many of them use it.
For an archaic four speed auto, the 2JZ did pretty well for itself. Could make out that unmistakable 2JZ noise at various points. Turns out even an automatic Mk IV Supra is still a Mk IV Supra.
Damn, the mk4 is just timeless, such a gorgeous car.
I think it's over rated tbf, people love it for the nostalgia.
@@thehorsecockexpress1068 Each to their own sure, but nostalgia aside, I still like the shape of the car.
Then you see the automatic gearbox and cry inside your self
For me I don't like the look of the mk4
@A AK Taste is subjective.
Now I can finally say YES OFFICER, IT IS STOCK!
Holy smokes I’ve been waiting for this race yess
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"What's the retail on one of those?" "Less than you think pal... Carwow"
Very underrated comment
Cowwow
Does it ever not rain there?
Title : Supras comparison
Everyone : A R E T H E S E S U P R A S ?
2 imposters among us! hhahahahahahahahaha hiding underneath the skin hahahahahahahahaha
Mk4 is indeed a lovely old girl 🥰
Wrong fool. It’s an ugly piece of garbage, fact
@@V_For_Vigilante rip
@@V_For_Vigilante no, it's just overrated
@@nikodaq it’s special. And special cars tend to be overrated. It just depends who you are, if you like good cars for the money, than the Supra is not it. But if you like special cars, then the Supra is hard to argue against.
@@D1man1525 mhm
4:38 that wheelspin even before the start :D
Thats so Need For Speed thing
JAPWOW
Supra Mk4, S2000, Silvia, fairlady, godzilla, integra, 240sx,RX7, lancer, impreza, R35......
That 4 speed auto in the old Supra is a heartbreak
The gay brother
It's not really it's just less desirable
All supras arent supposed to be tuned and ruined
At least it got a gte
@@pipeqez911 thats just boring then
@@pipeqez911 I agree the only tuned supra I like are from TRD and toms as more sports car like than gt and any engine tune shouldn't be crazy powerful but user friendly
If anyone remembers the white supra that had 1000 hp , we want a drag race with it!
Like so Mat can see! :)
1000hp supra vs 1000hp M5 would be nice.
@@sinenomine4540 nice pick
Ford GT destroys it ^^
I want to see a "stock" supra 2jz you know vs the "stock" purple gtr you also know which one
You can see them race a around Tsukuba.. the supra gets flopped and dead last out of all the JDM legends of the 90’s
I came to this video as a huge MK4 fan and expecting the MK5 3.0 to win, but ended the video considering buying the 2.0 lol. I’m not a regular track/drag driver so I feel like the small engine will be quicker in the city streets, better on gas, and great for long-distance, making for a better daily driver than the 6 cylinders.
Nailed it! This is why I bought the 2.0.
Same reason I got the 2.0. I don't track it at all. It's my daily. I also got a stupid good deal and got it for 12k less than asking and 8k under MSRP, due to them mismarking it. plus another 11k with a trade in. Got it brand new 2023 for under 30k over all so I couldn't pass it up
Also, a lot of reviews say the 2.0 handles better on curves due to the lighter weight and how the engine actually sits as a front mid engine and it's behind the front axle so the handling is "better"
@@TheNEWB13I've got a 2015 228i convertible that I just purchased off my dad. It has the predecessor to the 2 liter turbo in this video with slightly lower figures. While I do wish for more power sometimes(who doesn't), it's not slow. BMW lies about/underrates their performance figures, and it can be around 30 hp and lb/ft higher than on paper. So it's about twice as powerful as the Corolla I used to drive. The consensus seems to be that the 4 cylinder leads to a much better weight distribution due to a lighter nose. My dad optioned the sport suspension and M brake package for it which makes it handle like a dream. I obviously won't be able to beat a 3.0L turbo 6cyl M235i in a race or sound as good, but it has enough usable power for a fun daily driver sports car.
As far as sound, if you really want you can put a new exhaust on for a different note, so other than raw top end power there really isn't any difference.
The mk4 is as beautiful to me today as it was when i was a teenager when it launched! I really like the new supra but id have the mk4 without even considering it if i had the chance.great video as allways 👍
Supra Mk.4: "Dude, I almost had you."
"Thought you had me? You never had me. You never had your car"
@@nyckae8587 Granny shifting, not Double Clutching like you should (even though it's an Auto)
😂😂😂😂
Winning is winning
“It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.”
The MKIV is timeless, still beautiful
Thasnt matter how old it is, its perfect
@@danishow3748 it corners like an american boat so it's very far from perfect
@@thezig2078 its not track car, its more gt like.
@@rosterenko that's why new Supra is a lot better, it's a real sports car, not a wannabe like mk4
It screams old to me.
The pavement was wet plus the old supra is automatic instead of manual
Plus the guy was talkin' too much instead of staying focused on the racing...
Or the old Supra is just slower than the new one ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mat- says mk4 supra has 320hp
10 year old fanboys- surprised pikachu face
correct me if im wrong, but didnt all japanese sportscars back then have "320hp" because of some agreement but they all cheated and put more HP in than stated?
@@sesto194 no the Supra had 320 HP and the agreement was that they couldn't have more than 276 HP.
@@gist2063 ah ok, thanks :)
To be honest, 10-Year-olds now will probably be more enthusiastic about the Mk5 (A90) Supra. They will know about the BMW connection and 340hp. Only 10-years-olds of 10-20 years ago will fanboy over the Mk4 (A80) version, that can be tuned to 1000hp.
@@magnustan841 i dont know why the new supra gets so much hate. At least they didnt botch it like the new NSX and they didnt kill it off like the Evos and Eclipse’s.
"This is as it should be, perfect." - most apt words to describe a stock supra😌
The lovely old girl’ is still keeping up with modern cars with modern techs”
BMW's just not a good Automobile company.
Well, except for the fact its not keeping up in any aspect at all... The only aspect where its actually saving face, this drag race, its still losing to all variants of its modern counterparts. Objectively, the 2.0 is running circles around it in tech, refinement, precision, efficiency, safety,...
@@darshanasharma3073 they were, nowadays Bmw is a POS company.
@@an-dr6eu almost 30 years difference, i could argue a prius is more advanced but i would still pick the mk4 any day.
Well the modern has to get away with a lot of weight for crash safety and dreadful emission controls. That's what brings Bimmers down nowadays.
Also the 3.0 is quite tunable.
The old MK4 was hated and not noticed when it was first launched. It only got attention in Fast and Furious. Then fanboys came in, “oh it comes in stock at 1000hp” “it’s the fastest car out there!” “I love the mk4 better than the new mk5” “manual gear mk4 can beat everything” ☠️☠️☠️
Exactly. And fanboys think the 2JZ belongs to the Supra MK4 A80 when it actually belongs to the JZA147/Lexus GS Sedan
When old supra is on the thumbnail yet again... Everyone clicks*