Jay H Does he ever says he’s fortunate? Is he a humble guy? I have not watched all his videos, but the ones I’ve seen, he doesn’t mention anything about being fortunate to own those pieces. He can only be fortunate, if he sees it that way.
I really like this channel, the guy doesn't brag or get overexcited about the watches (not sure I could be so restrained) just clear concise details. He clearly knows his stuff ! And has a very healthy bank account 😉
Thats the problem with too much money, things dont excite you and you dont really get the satisfaction. As they say success without fulfilment is not an achievement.
Amazing video!! I will definitely keep the Nautilus. As an owner of both a 5711 and 5167 the bracelet of the Nautilus and like you said the history and Gerald Genta design always makes me choose it. The Nautilus bracelet is also very versatile being able to dress up or down but I always find wearing the 5167 in a suit weird due to the rubber strap
Awesome review. Exactly the one ive been looking for. Ive had the same dilema for a while now. Though im more interested in a sportier watch...the Aquanaut is the choice for me. The Nautilus with the limited moon face up to 2030 kinda kills the love for it.
Foxtrot Oscar you're ignorant beyond belief. If you have a big 4k tv and an reference hi--fi system the quality difference of a 4K bluray vs streaming is jaw dropping. Not even in the same league. EDUCATE YOURSELF please.
The Aquanaut every time. The case design is the better one and it is more restrained, in my humble opinion and the GMT implementation is perfect: It can be hidden showing a clean dial, or shown in all its glory when needed. A successful design. Thanks for the comparison.
Both watches are absolutely perfect. 5712 is a clear winner wit the microrotor movement which is absolutely superb. Personally I have the hots for 5524 TravelTime and the thinnest Aquanaut 5168. But only dreaming here. Godd episode. Thumbs up.
The rotor spinning was mesmorising, oh my. I need some water. Overall the Nautilus wins for me... the balance between polished and brushed metal is spot on. I am literately contemplating driving to Harrods just to stare at one in the window. 🙈 P.S. I was told years old when I realised the watches on top of the books in the intro clip lmao.
Very much obvio reason to choose 5712 because of its more modern and formal look And also in my opinion the rubber straps of aquanaut are not really that sensual when it comes to passing on such a prestige calatrava to your coming generations but the steal case. Another major highlight is the leap year calender in 5712. Wearing a watch which carries all of ones memory throughout the year implies the feeling of gratitude towards the watch. To me honestly nautilus wins my heart every single time because of its historic meaning and much because of its capability to follow a legacy. #patekphillipe #5712 #geraldgenta
The case and bracelet on the 5712 look better, but the travel time movement is more intriguing. The nautilus travel time looks way too busy on the dial unfortunately. The aquanaut version is balanced. If I had to choose it would be a nautilus, but rather the 5726. The aquanaut would be welcome as the more subtle looking travel watch. Great in depth video once again!
Robster Thermidor yes, 32k is the retail price, to get it at this price, you’d have to be really really lucky and be the best friend of the Patel boutique hahah
Dude , you put those watches in a window , in a shopping mall and you cover their names and you would be unpleasantly surprised how ignored they would be .
They aren’t meant to be showy. You pay the frankly ridiculous money for movement and the quality of finish. There are ridiculous Hublots that are far more bling.
That’s what some people want I’m sure. People want class not flash. If you want flashy get a gold Rolex, Hublot, or even AP. For the same reason some people get a red Ferrari and others get a Bentley.
+armando cardenas Put a gold bar worth a million on a shop window and you would be surprised at how many people ignore it. Me and my wife meet a very high end car one day and I said did you see that and she had no clue what I was talking of.
Lange 1815 annual as my grail but if had to choose...I don’t know. I like the Aquanaut a lot but the Nautilis would be more versatile and fit my needs better. I agree with you, both or none 😬
Always enjoy your videos and thanks for making them. It would be nice if you could show the pictures of the watches/ref no. you talk about. I am sure many people including myself are not good with ref.numbers.
Nautilus looks soo darn good, but i like the straps and general every day usability of aquanaut, if you ask me i would like the naulius with the strap from the aquanaut
Is there any way to buy a new aquanut other than buying it from any secondary market? I called some boutiques listed on PP official website but they all said “You won’t get it since you have no purchase history with us”. Is there any way?
This channel is but a massive flex but, for some reason, I never felt alienated or looked down upon by any of his videos. His tone and presentation style give the video a sense of normalcy.
Great sharing! I want to buy these two watches but need to wait for xx years till the end of die because of the long waiting list~ Any ideas to get it with listed price?
If I had to choose I’d definitely have the Nautilus, so elegant, but then, actually maybe I’d have the Aquanaut, great everyday watch, ah no but that blue dial on the Nautilus looks incredible, scrap that I’d take Nautilus, but also love that Aquanaut dial, it’s completely different aesthetic, but no, would take Nautilus as I love the up/down comp, but travel-time is handy too......ad nauseam
Hi LWC, Thanks for sharing your experience on these grail watches. I am hoping to get your advice for my future purchase. I am a 1 watch guy, who wears an Explorer 1 every day. Among the watches that you have experience with, which high-end watch would serve as the best only watch? Your advice is much appreciated!
Hi London watch collector your reviews are impeccable but my choice is the nautilus the dna is just fantastic great choice of watches both are stunning only wish I could even afford one of them kind regards tel
Fabulous watches though they are, I’m really not a fan of the little pusher dimples on the case flanks. Some brands, like Ulysse Nardin have been clever enough to build all of the adjustment needs, even on a perpetual calendar, into the crown which I much prefer.
Where and how did he purchase these at the RRP/ MRSP?! As far as I can tell, they both retail for well over the manufacturer’s listed price, and it’s been so for a while.
I love simple dials so am going with the Aquanaut. The power reserve on the nautilus just keeps the dial too busy. I’ll go with the 2 subdials down bt not power reserve
Aquanaut because I don’t want people to know that I’m wearing a watch is worth so much. People would assume that a watch in a rubber strap is not expensive
If you showed 99.99% of people on the street the watch many would no understand what it is or how much it is worth. They would recognise the name Rolex but that is it.
I was told by Pateks London boutique that the waiting list for the aquanaut has been closed for years. I didn’t waste my breath enquiring about the nautilus.
+tar1895 It is called collectors fever. There are plenty of other great watches at the same price than people will look upon with the same desire. JLC, Patek, Rolex, AP and other brands produce very high high end stunning pieces at half the price. You could have a Rolex and JLC for half the price and they could be the only watches you would ever need to own and they are built to the highest qualities.
So, I'm looking for a 41mm vintage Rolex, steel. I'm looking at it as an investment. I have heard (and read) that they are very hard to get your hands on, do you have any tips of any certified retailer who perhaps could sell one? Sure, I do have a couple of watches, one being a Seiko that is now 23 years old (or was it 24..).
prices are ridiculously high. when converted to INR, it is a cool 30 L ruba. that will buy you sports suv or a 2 bedroom flat or 790 grams of pure gold .
With that much action in the automatic rotor, you probably don't even need to ever unscrew the crown on this watch, yes? You can wind it and change the time all while keeping the crown screwed down.
Even if i could afford the Nautilus the Aquanaut for me , it has a cleaner and more usable complication. The Nautilus has a better case back aesthetics but we don't wear our watches the other way around .
I generally prefer the nautilus over the aqaunaut. However, you comparing my least favourite nautilus over my favourite aquanaut. Over the two watches, I prefer the aquanaut. Just my opinion. I love the 5711 and the 5980.
it's funny because as someone who's a big 5711 (3700, 3800) fan, i can't stand seeing additional complications on the nautilus line- it just uglies the aesthetic, imo... the one one i'd personally somewhat tolerate is the 5980, but i'd still take the plain jane 5711 over it any day of the week. as for the aqua, as much as i adore the 5167 (and 5060 + 5065 even more), i find that complications actually look great on this model, the travel time being one of the nicest pieces in the sports patek lineup imo. a tiffany dial travel time is a grail. that said, i will happily settle for a 5167a if/when my name ever gets called on the list.
I want to purchase my first high end watch, what should i aim for as a starter? i am leaning towards AP or Nautilus, but people for some reason say you should sway towards rolex as a starter
What sort of work do you do? If you're younger in your profession, you may not want to flex as hard as an AP or PP. Could send the wrong message to higher ups and/or clients.
@@iammars142 I am the creative director/designer of a fashion brand. I am mostly around other CEO's so flexing isn't the biggest issue, since they all kinda wear high end watches.
"what would you guys choose?"
Well thank you for asking, I'll take the G-Shock
Go to a gshock video then
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 he has a G-shock
Sinn 756.
I Will take the gmt master 2
London Watch Collector buying luxury watches like they're only $10
hahahaha, and heres me having to think about whether i can afford to buy a Timex
@@stueypooy22 same dude.
Not even close to being possible for the average guy.
@ I think calling him a "multi millionaire" is a huge understatement.
10k is $10 when you got you're a millionaire.
You are very fortunate to own such amazing time pieces.
Or unfortunate as all of his money is gone and he can’t afford to eat.
@@LeprechaunGinger the luxury watches hardly ever lose his value
@@1fanlofiboy298 he is joking
Jay H Does he ever says he’s fortunate? Is he a humble guy? I have not watched all his videos, but the ones I’ve seen, he doesn’t mention anything about being fortunate to own those pieces.
He can only be fortunate, if he sees it that way.
@@1fanlofiboy298
You have no clue....lol
Wait a couple of years and try to sell one and see if a watch has lost value
The aquanaut is hands down the sexiest of the two .
10:10 ah yes the £27,000 fidget spinner
😄😄😄😄😄
What is that part called???
This spinning half circle
kornelius salvesen rotor
I like spinners too.
Hahaha
Beautiful pieces. I would love just to hold one in my hand. Thank you for showing them.
Hahah I literally laughed out loud you made my day with your honesty!!!!! “I’m addicted to watches”
When is a Lange joining the collection? XD
Great video as always
It looks like he only collects Sports- and Tool watches
Yeah defo should buy one lange atleast
You made loves watch even more everytime i watch one of your videos! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!
I really like this channel, the guy doesn't brag or get overexcited about the watches (not sure I could be so restrained) just clear concise details. He clearly knows his stuff !
And has a very healthy bank account 😉
Thats the problem with too much money, things dont excite you and you dont really get the satisfaction. As they say success without fulfilment is not an achievement.
Amazing video!!
I will definitely keep the Nautilus. As an owner of both a 5711 and 5167 the bracelet of the Nautilus and like you said the history and Gerald Genta design always makes me choose it.
The Nautilus bracelet is also very versatile being able to dress up or down but I always find wearing the 5167 in a suit weird due to the rubber strap
7:29 I agree. Seeing them next to each other gives me feelings that are not meant for objects.
Awesome review. Exactly the one ive been looking for. Ive had the same dilema for a while now. Though im more interested in a sportier watch...the Aquanaut is the choice for me. The Nautilus with the limited moon face up to 2030 kinda kills the love for it.
I like this video a lot, love your review style. I came away liking the Aquanaut better which is not what I thought would be the result.
The ADs must be licking their chops when they see you walk through the door.
The 5712 is absolutely the best watch in the world. You my friend are one lucky individual. Wear it in good health.
This guy buys Patek's and Rollies like I buy Blurays 🤣🤣
So you like... vintage technologies too?! XD
SpaghettiKillah People still buy BluRay? Wow, where do you keep your gramophone?
Foxtrot Oscar you're ignorant beyond belief.
If you have a big 4k tv and an reference hi--fi system the quality difference of a 4K bluray vs streaming is jaw dropping. Not even in the same league.
EDUCATE YOURSELF please.
@@Strellock
Blu-Ray is the best way to enjoy movies.
You buy bluray I pirate😂😂😂😂🤣
I love your reviews. I’m glad you wear gloves, it just makes it cleaner. Fantastic job you lucky man!
Aquanaut as a daily. 5712 for the weekend!
5711 daily. Aquanaut weekend diver.
Indeed
I think I would take the aquanaut, the bracelet is lovely on the nautilus, but I prefer the symmetry of the aquanauts dial lay out
The Aquanaut every time. The case design is the better one and it is more restrained, in my humble opinion and the GMT implementation is perfect: It can be hidden showing a clean dial, or shown in all its glory when needed. A successful design. Thanks for the comparison.
For me it would be . . . Nautilus.
it's sharp, classic, and strong, bold.
Both watches are absolutely perfect. 5712 is a clear winner wit the microrotor movement which is absolutely superb. Personally I have the hots for 5524 TravelTime and the thinnest Aquanaut 5168. But only dreaming here. Godd episode. Thumbs up.
Beautiful pieces
I sir also have a swatch on rubber strap and another swatch on stainless Steel bracelet
You make us (mostly me) sooooooo envious. I like all your watches. Congrats.
The rotor spinning was mesmorising, oh my. I need some water. Overall the Nautilus wins for me... the balance between polished and brushed metal is spot on. I am literately contemplating driving to Harrods just to stare at one in the window. 🙈
P.S. I was told years old when I realised the watches on top of the books in the intro clip lmao.
Patek boxes are so beautiful
Ya nice $10 box.
A used BMW from CarMax sound really good now....with extended Warranty.
This video was very soothing for some reason
Aquanaut 💯%
Very much obvio reason to choose 5712 because of its more modern and formal look And also in my opinion the rubber straps of aquanaut are not really that sensual when it comes to passing on such a prestige calatrava to your coming generations but the steal case.
Another major highlight is the leap year calender in 5712. Wearing a watch which carries all of ones memory throughout the year implies the feeling of gratitude towards the watch. To me honestly nautilus wins my heart every single time because of its historic meaning and much because of its capability to follow a legacy.
#patekphillipe #5712 #geraldgenta
Nautilus for the office, Aquanaut for leisure. Winning combo.
That's why I like the vc overseas ultra thin because you can change the band and voila it's a different watch
If you work in an office and live water sports then a Patek for the office and a rolex for the waters sports.
The case and bracelet on the 5712 look better, but the travel time movement is more intriguing. The nautilus travel time looks way too busy on the dial unfortunately. The aquanaut version is balanced. If I had to choose it would be a nautilus, but rather the 5726. The aquanaut would be welcome as the more subtle looking travel watch.
Great in depth video once again!
4:21 you can see the difference in the website name at the bottom of the library leaflet on the back
Get me a Nautilus for £32k I’ll have one...almost impossible for that price at the moment
Robster Thermidor yes, 32k is the retail price, to get it at this price, you’d have to be really really lucky and be the best friend of the Patel boutique hahah
Still overpriced at 32k. IMO.
@@CommandoMaster if you want it, you pay 😂😂
id pay 45k straight away for that one
I pay 1 pound.
Hi - Do you recommend buying the Nautalius from a trusted non-authorized dealer? It’s impossible to get it from AD. I am located in NYC
Dude , you put those watches in a window , in a shopping mall and you cover their names and you would be unpleasantly surprised how ignored they would be .
I have to agree.
Both watches seem particularly bland and boring in my opinion.
They aren’t meant to be showy. You pay the frankly ridiculous money for movement and the quality of finish. There are ridiculous Hublots that are far more bling.
That’s what some people want I’m sure. People want class not flash. If you want flashy get a gold Rolex, Hublot, or even AP. For the same reason some people get a red Ferrari and others get a Bentley.
Josh Price Stealth Wealth. I like that phrase. lol!
+armando cardenas
Put a gold bar worth a million on a shop window and you would be surprised at how many people ignore it.
Me and my wife meet a very high end car one day and I said did you see that and she had no clue what I was talking of.
I've got a watch with one of those cut-it rubber bracelets. Now I've put on weight it doesn't fit. Hope they're not too expensive to replace!
> "What would you guys choose?"
Doesn't matter. Nowhere near to be able to afford them.
You can afford them if you put your mind to it.
Tell me how it goes 😂
Marcus Gill Work Hard for 10 years. Educate yourself. Get a job you love and improve.
I’d go for the Nautilus . I’ve never seen one in the wild. Both are great though. Sir. You are a lucky man.
Choose what ? I can't even afford the watch box
What is the best watch to wear to the club as a bait watch?
Lange 1815 annual as my grail but if had to choose...I don’t know. I like the Aquanaut a lot but the Nautilis would be more versatile and fit my needs better. I agree with you, both or none 😬
Always enjoy your videos and thanks for making them. It would be nice if you could show the pictures of the watches/ref no. you talk about. I am sure many people including myself are not good with ref.numbers.
How do u get them they are out of stock in Dubai were I live
Nautilus looks soo darn good, but i like the straps and general every day usability of aquanaut, if you ask me i would like the naulius with the strap from the aquanaut
I love what you do. Am going to getting some books and start reading soon.
Lil Ausar Make sure they’re engineering books. That’s what he does for a living.
@@deltanovember1672 Who is he?
Bebie Glo The London Watch Collector.
Is there any way to buy a new aquanut other than buying it from any secondary market? I called some boutiques listed on PP official website but they all said “You won’t get it since you have no purchase history with us”. Is there any way?
Great collection and looking forward to your next RO purchase.
This channel is but a massive flex but, for some reason, I never felt alienated or looked down upon by any of his videos. His tone and presentation style give the video a sense of normalcy.
Great sharing! I want to buy these two watches but need to wait for xx years till the end of die because of the long waiting list~ Any ideas to get it with listed price?
Not digging either watch. Aquanaut in particular is a little confusing and cluttered. Best thing I liked was the box they came in.
If I had to choose I’d definitely have the Nautilus, so elegant, but then, actually maybe I’d have the Aquanaut, great everyday watch, ah no but that blue dial on the Nautilus looks incredible, scrap that I’d take Nautilus, but also love that Aquanaut dial, it’s completely different aesthetic, but no, would take Nautilus as I love the up/down comp, but travel-time is handy too......ad nauseam
😅😅😅👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼😍😍😍
Hi LWC,
Thanks for sharing your experience on these grail watches.
I am hoping to get your advice for my future purchase.
I am a 1 watch guy, who wears an Explorer 1 every day.
Among the watches that you have experience with, which high-end watch would serve as the best only watch?
Your advice is much appreciated!
Hi London watch collector your reviews are impeccable but my choice is the nautilus the dna is just fantastic great choice of watches both are stunning only wish I could even afford one of them kind regards tel
9:43 happens often?
Beautiful watches. Works of art both of them. I would choose the same one.
That aquanaught is gorgeous
Awww I have to make do with an Omega 2232 today. Beautiful Pateks you have there ! You need to add the 5740 still !
Seamaster is a very competent watch that most people would not have. Building your wealth is key to rising in the world.
Fabulous watches though they are, I’m really not a fan of the little pusher dimples on the case flanks. Some brands, like Ulysse Nardin have been clever enough to build all of the adjustment needs, even on a perpetual calendar, into the crown which I much prefer.
Ah very different to the original aquanaut PP have really improved the aquanaut wow lovely watch now
How long you have to wait to get the watch after you place the order?
Where and how did he purchase these at the RRP/ MRSP?! As far as I can tell, they both retail for well over the manufacturer’s listed price, and it’s been so for a while.
be a good client with a long purchase history and you will get them for list ;)
or know the owner
What is that part called???
This spinning half circle 10:10
that's the winding rotor. Notice the 5712 uses a micro-rotor.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing your collection
I like aquanaut but have little problem if I live kuwait and travel to iran the different time about 30 min I cant change min
What is your intro music?
No shot at getting the 5712 for 32,000 the watch is impossible to get and close to 50-60K to buy
If i lucid dream at tonight then i’ll buy the Nautilus during rem.
I love simple dials so am going with the Aquanaut. The power reserve on the nautilus just keeps the dial too busy. I’ll go with the 2 subdials down bt not power reserve
Both are amazing watches. If I had to choose, it would be the Aquanaut.
9:10 wtf... do i hear the rotor spinning...???? Is that normal?
Of course.
Mr. Personal-ity a 30k watch... and u hear the rotor spinning. My rolex explorer doesnt...
spot on, they are the perfect pair
Aquanaut because I don’t want people to know that I’m wearing a watch is worth so much. People would assume that a watch in a rubber strap is not expensive
If you showed 99.99% of people on the street the watch many would no understand what it is or how much it is worth. They would recognise the name Rolex but that is it.
Any chance of you doing an updated State of the Collection video? Been a while since the last one. Thanks.
Both are beautiful watches. Put me down for the Nautilus.
On the certificate you covered the movement number. Why is that..??
Me likey the one on the left! Very cool watch broham!
I was told by Pateks London boutique that the waiting list for the aquanaut has been closed for years. I didn’t waste my breath enquiring about the nautilus.
+tar1895
It is called collectors fever. There are plenty of other great watches at the same price than people will look upon with the same desire.
JLC, Patek, Rolex, AP and other brands produce very high high end stunning pieces at half the price. You could have a Rolex and JLC for half the price and they could be the only watches you would ever need to own and they are built to the highest qualities.
Does that mean after 2030 - the annual calendar/leap year will be inaccurate?
What do you do for work my friend?
My two absolute favourite Pateks!
I have the fortune to own both and have to agree they are the perfect match... but if I had to choose one it would be the 5712...
So, I'm looking for a 41mm vintage Rolex, steel. I'm looking at it as an investment.
I have heard (and read) that they are very hard to get your hands on, do you have any tips of any certified retailer who perhaps could sell one?
Sure, I do have a couple of watches, one being a Seiko that is now 23 years old (or was it 24..).
prices are ridiculously high. when converted to INR, it is a cool 30 L ruba.
that will buy you sports suv or a 2 bedroom flat or 790 grams of pure gold .
Lovely watches, well done on the video, superb as always.
With that much action in the automatic rotor, you probably don't even need to ever unscrew the crown on this watch, yes? You can wind it and change the time all while keeping the crown screwed down.
Even if i could afford the Nautilus the Aquanaut for me , it has a cleaner and more usable complication. The Nautilus has a better case back aesthetics but we don't wear our watches the other way around .
Nautilus all days in week, but 5511 I want mostly.
5712 for me because it’s more versatile
Tho I love the aquanaut. Great video
Patek box will be a perfect, elegant coffin for my chinchilla
I am in love with the aquanaut
I generally prefer the nautilus over the aqaunaut. However, you comparing my least favourite nautilus over my favourite aquanaut. Over the two watches, I prefer the aquanaut. Just my opinion. I love the 5711 and the 5980.
it's funny because as someone who's a big 5711 (3700, 3800) fan, i can't stand seeing additional complications on the nautilus line- it just uglies the aesthetic, imo... the one one i'd personally somewhat tolerate is the 5980, but i'd still take the plain jane 5711 over it any day of the week. as for the aqua, as much as i adore the 5167 (and 5060 + 5065 even more), i find that complications actually look great on this model, the travel time being one of the nicest pieces in the sports patek lineup imo. a tiffany dial travel time is a grail. that said, i will happily settle for a 5167a if/when my name ever gets called on the list.
There is a very fine line between collecting and hoarding watches. Care must be exercised.
It’s a good addiction my friend 👍🏼
I want to purchase my first high end watch, what should i aim for as a starter?
i am leaning towards AP or Nautilus, but people for some reason say you should sway towards rolex as a starter
What sort of work do you do? If you're younger in your profession, you may not want to flex as hard as an AP or PP. Could send the wrong message to higher ups and/or clients.
@@iammars142 I am the creative director/designer of a fashion brand. I am mostly around other CEO's so flexing isn't the biggest issue, since they all kinda wear high end watches.
@@gentleEvening Sounds like you should just buy whatever you like then. I was thinking about the flex more from an IB perspective.
The Aquanaut looks so beautiful...
Perfect video. Thanks!
How did you get these?