Im a statistic of hard panniers! As I'm laying on the couch watching videos of what soft bags I'm going to buy..... broken ankle, broken Tibia and Fibula. My Xmas gift is leaning to the mosko moto backcountry!
@zeromileadv I have a 2016 yamaha super tenere 1200, I've had a few crashes and each time I said I'm getting rid of these damn aluminum panniers before I break a leg.... welp stupid me for procrastinating! I was following an old logging road that had many trees that fell across and had been partially cut to get by, I was sure after the 8-10 one I passed through was wide enough, that was a misconception! I got to confident and wack... my pannier caught the tree at the cut and down I went with my leg under my pannier and the tip of my boot in my rear spoke and pop went bones, that was the easy part, staying coherent as I had to get my bike off me, try to find my phone.... which I never did, so I had to get it up on its wheels and ride back 60 miles to town was the middle of the hardest part, trying to stop at a safe place (gas station) to get off was the hardest part, during the dismount and wanting to puke and pass-out, a guy called 911 and what a relief that was to know help was on its way! If I was to give any advice....for good county roads, hi way hard panniers are great, but outside of those conditions....soft is the answer!
@@dannyeugenewaits9486 Wow, thank you for sharing your story. it sounds like you went through an incredibly tough experience, and I’m glad you made it back! That must have taken some serious grit and determination to ride 60 miles in that condition. Your point about the trade-offs between hard and soft panniers is spot on. It’s easy to get comfortable with hard panniers on smoother roads, but as your experience shows, they can be a real liability in tight or rough conditions. Soft panniers like the Mosko Moto bags seem to strike that balance for riders who want more off-road versatility without the risks of hard cases. Your story is a powerful reminder of how important it is to choose the right gear for the type of riding you do. Thanks again for sharing, and I hope you’re fully recovered and back out there riding safely!
When watching the mounting of the rack I realised that you have fixed the cross bar the wrong way. I think the U-shape has to look up, to be far away of the rear wheel. Happy riding Chris
Mosko's gear is bomber, and I have had great luck with their products but your observations are pretty similar to what I experienced and heard from others also. I didn't have any issues with my BC35's on the two longer trips I used them on, but decided to sell them and put my money into a rackless system to reduce the weight on the back of the bike (the bags + mounts + racks on my AT are about 25lbs without anything in them - and mostly all aft of the rear axle).
Thats a bit of a bummer. When you make a great product I would hope you could also make a great culture of people to support that product. Its gotta be People Purpose Profits in that order, in my opinion at least. I was also interested in the rackless systems as well. Buit figured Id go with just the soft bags first. What kind of bike are you running?
My Mosko stuff has been amazing but, I had a similar experience at the BMW rally in Oregon. They seemed to me less than enthusiastic to be at the show or have to deal with my questions.
Subscribed! Watching you pull in and seeing you reach for the ground made me curious as to your height and inseam. I'm looking to pick up an Expedition at the first of the year and can't decide if I should have the factory lowering kit installed. Unfortunately there aren't any in my area for me to go sit on.
Im a statistic of hard panniers! As I'm laying on the couch watching videos of what soft bags I'm going to buy..... broken ankle, broken Tibia and Fibula. My Xmas gift is leaning to the mosko moto backcountry!
@@dannyeugenewaits9486 dang sorry to hear that!!!! What kind of bike you gonna put them on?
@zeromileadv I have a 2016 yamaha super tenere 1200, I've had a few crashes and each time I said I'm getting rid of these damn aluminum panniers before I break a leg.... welp stupid me for procrastinating! I was following an old logging road that had many trees that fell across and had been partially cut to get by, I was sure after the 8-10 one I passed through was wide enough, that was a misconception! I got to confident and wack... my pannier caught the tree at the cut and down I went with my leg under my pannier and the tip of my boot in my rear spoke and pop went bones, that was the easy part, staying coherent as I had to get my bike off me, try to find my phone.... which I never did, so I had to get it up on its wheels and ride back 60 miles to town was the middle of the hardest part, trying to stop at a safe place (gas station) to get off was the hardest part, during the dismount and wanting to puke and pass-out, a guy called 911 and what a relief that was to know help was on its way! If I was to give any advice....for good county roads, hi way hard panniers are great, but outside of those conditions....soft is the answer!
@@dannyeugenewaits9486 Wow, thank you for sharing your story. it sounds like you went through an incredibly tough experience, and I’m glad you made it back! That must have taken some serious grit and determination to ride 60 miles in that condition. Your point about the trade-offs between hard and soft panniers is spot on. It’s easy to get comfortable with hard panniers on smoother roads, but as your experience shows, they can be a real liability in tight or rough conditions.
Soft panniers like the Mosko Moto bags seem to strike that balance for riders who want more off-road versatility without the risks of hard cases. Your story is a powerful reminder of how important it is to choose the right gear for the type of riding you do. Thanks again for sharing, and I hope you’re fully recovered and back out there riding safely!
When watching the mounting of the rack I realised that you have fixed the cross bar the wrong way. I think the U-shape has to look up, to be far away of the rear wheel. Happy riding
Chris
Well shoot!! I need to look into this. Thanks for having my back on this one!
Mosko's gear is bomber, and I have had great luck with their products but your observations are pretty similar to what I experienced and heard from others also. I didn't have any issues with my BC35's on the two longer trips I used them on, but decided to sell them and put my money into a rackless system to reduce the weight on the back of the bike (the bags + mounts + racks on my AT are about 25lbs without anything in them - and mostly all aft of the rear axle).
Thats a bit of a bummer. When you make a great product I would hope you could also make a great culture of people to support that product. Its gotta be People Purpose Profits in that order, in my opinion at least. I was also interested in the rackless systems as well. Buit figured Id go with just the soft bags first. What kind of bike are you running?
@@zeromileadv My currentl ADV bike is a 2016 Africa Twin.
@@scottjones9670 Someday I hope to be able to spend some time on a Africa Twin. Looks like a great bike!
My Mosko stuff has been amazing but, I had a similar experience at the BMW rally in Oregon. They seemed to me less than enthusiastic to be at the show or have to deal with my questions.
Thats too bad. Sounds like there may be some culture issues there.
Subscribed! Watching you pull in and seeing you reach for the ground made me curious as to your height and inseam. I'm looking to pick up an Expedition at the first of the year and can't decide if I should have the factory lowering kit installed. Unfortunately there aren't any in my area for me to go sit on.
thx!!! Yeah I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam. The seat width would have been an issue when I first started. But now its not too big of deal