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Not sure how I came across this video, but you did a great job explaining what you liked/disliked on both bikes. I grew up riding tracks, dunes and desert, so the 450 MX bikes were all I rode. After a near life ending accident, I thought I'd slow it down by getting a CRF450X. Worst bike I've ever owned. I did not enjoy it at all. We moved out to CO 3yrs ago, and we brought our 4-stroke bikes. My son and I on a KTM 350XC and daughter on her KTM 250SXF. Absolutely loved them in the desert. We had a terrible time with these 4-strokes on tougher single tracks, out here in CO. They felt very heavy, and would flame out occasionally. We immediately sold them and bought 3 2-stroke bikes. Mine is a KTM 250XC, son is KTM 300XC and daughter a Beta XTrainer 300. My daughter immediately increased her skill level, as her confidence had grown significantly. The 2-strokes are absolutely incredible for the riding we do out here. There is no way I could go back to a 4-stroke...for the riding WE do. If I move again and get back into track riding, and more desert riding...I'll be back on a 4-stroke. Anyway, great job on the video. I realize you're a fairly new rider, but you did a great job presenting your thoughts.

I love that magnetic plate!

All accounted for, how much did you approximately spend on mods? Also, do you do your own valve clearance checks? Honda quoted me at about 4.5 hrs of labor, so approximately $620 every 2,000 miles to have the valves checked.

Und sie sieht doch besser als die GS1300 aus!

If its feasible for you think about picking up a used trials bike. The absolute fastest way to build a solid foundation of riding skills. The balance and timing a trials bike will teach you is simply invaluable when riding any other type of bike off road or on. A big plus is how little space is required, a typical back yard is plenty and they are quiet enough to not disturb the neighbors. I've been riding and racing for many decades and started basic trials two years ago, even as an "old guy" the lessons learned have paid many dividends when out riding my usual trails.

This is the worst UA-cam channel in the world because your opinion is different than mine. There's no way a KTM 300XC could ever be better than the CRF450RL at anything ever, so there. I think weight of the bike, tires, and confidence make all the difference. The 2-strokes are less prone to stalling and are lighter, leading to increased confidence. The better tires of the KTM make a definite difference in grip, leading to increased confidence. I think what's been working for me is to use my Beta XTrainer to try new things and build confidence and then ride the 450 with that confidence. The XTrainer is happy to putt around and go slow, is easy to ride, and way more forgiving. The 450 sort of demands more confidence. It's not happy to putt around. When I'm feeling confident and push it, the bike rewards me. Otherwise, it's not a lot of fun and becomes work. I got the Beta just over a year ago with the express purpose of having a bike that is easy to ride yet capable. I wanted something I could use to push my skills and make me a better rider across the board. Mission accomplished. I'm doing things on the 450 I wouldn't have dreamed of doing a year ago. The single track I usually ride has become easy and I'm starting to ride fast enough that the Beta's suspension is not keeping up. I'm not bottoming out so much, but the bike is getting a bit hard to control because the suspension is getting all out of sorts. Meanwhile the 450 has turned into a magic carpet ride on those same trails. The extra heft of the 450 is more work but it's okay. The Beta starts beating me up at those speeds.

Not the worst video by a long shot.Dont beat yourself up.Your a newbie.The more you ride the better you get.If you have a buddy or two that ride faster than you that will push your skill level.Welcome to the world of dirt bikes.

Pick one bike and ride it, enjoy the bike you have rather than always wanting something else. No matter what you choose there will be another latest greatest model released next year. Are you riding for a world championship? State title? Or even Ace of the club? In the big scheme of things it doesn't matter what bike you're on, enjoy it instead of always wishing for something else.

There's a tech 10 enduro now

Its a shittty bike from top to bottom.

I have 1700 miles on my 450RL. I did install the throttle tamer and set my idle up enough that it will take off with barely a sputter when I ease out clutch without adding throttle. It doesn’t like to chug, I have to stay on throttle just a little to avoid flame outs. I think it’s like anything else, just ride it and adapt. I enjoy the bike it has made me a better rider on my other motorcycles, and makes me appreciate those other bikes more for their smooth throttles and softer seats. But I smile more on the 450 because it wants to play dead and then spring to life and try to rip me out of the saddle. Plus it’s light enough to manhandle. I’d buy it again without any regret. I’m gonna put GET ECU on it this winter and get a good exhaust, and hope next summer when I bump a log or a rock I can just goose my throttle a little to get over it without feathering that clutch so much. It’s so cantankerous it’s fun, I know I shouldn’t like it so much but I enjoy the challenge of keeping it running through the slow stuff. Anyways I type too much.

There are some different seat options or you could get a rally seat for your Norden 901, maybe that will help, and it is the best looking adventure bike for sure!

Hair looks great 👍

No way , your wrong..

I rode my 23 stock for a while it broke in and got better. Then got a jd tuner and exhaust things got better. Recently 550 Performance was able to crack the stock ecu and now offers reflashes for 200 bucks. The bike is amazing now! Tractors at 6 to 7 mph in 1st gear, pops 4th gear wheelies, throttle is way smooth and no more fuel cut off jerk, mpg is like 43 to 50 depending on how im riding. If anyone has a stock bike and wants it to run amazing and up the hp without spending 700 to 1500 on a new ecu hit up 550 performance!

Interesting that you’d prefer a 1290 SAR over the 450RL as a BDR machine considering you downsized. Have you seen John T Young’s 450RL BDR videos? At any rate, these are nice bikes. I’d probably lean towards a 500 exc-f personally, but I wouldn’t be disappointed with this at all. ✌🏾

People need to remember that this bike is basically just a detuned 450X. It's a desert bike, so it wants to move. Everything that is being suggested, like ecu, throttle tamer, flywheel weight, etc., need to be done in order to make it usable on tight single track. However, as a desert dual sport, no changes are necessary. Amazing bike for the price. And it's a Honda, so take care of it and it will not let you down.

I was able to achieve smooth response including down low tractability by adjusting throttle cable up, fine tune to no cable slack, transform the Honda crf450rl.

I'll be the one guy with a CRF450L/RL who isn't in either camp with regards to the ECU. I have the AIM ECU and it's no doubt better than the stock ECU, but it's not like the bike is unrideable (as some folks claim) with the stock ECU. I pulled the AIM out weekend before last and installed the stock ECU for the purpose of testing the gas mileage difference and to see if it really is as bad as it's made out to be and as bad as I remembered it being. What I found is that it's all about case use. If I'm using the bike like it was meant to be used, like fast and flowy single track or double track, the bike is great with either ECU. It's only when riding slowly in technical stuff, or just riding slow, with a lot of throttle manipulation from closed to open, that the stock ECU is really bad. I think the suspension only really works great riding in 3rd gear or above speeds. At those speeds, the stock ECU is fine. For the 1st and 2nd gear slow stuff, the stock ECU makes you suffer. That's where an aftermarket ECU really transforms the bike. The aftermarket ECU just makes the bike more diverse in its capabilities. I think I will use the stock ECU if I do the Big Bend BDR-X I'm hoping to do this December (an extra 5 mpg or so could help prevent an existential crisis out there!). Once I do that or once I decide to put it off until next winter, I'm putting the AIM ECU back in. It just works better for the riding I do, which includes a lot of slow, technical single track.

Great content..... keep it coming

A flywheel weight might help with tractoring. It is one of those under $150 upgrades. There are some good videos on how to do it yourself.

I have the bike with Vortex ECU and stock exhaust and 3 gallon tank. 170 miles between stops is doable on BDR type terrain with Giant Loop Fuel bag which is very user friendly and easy to strap to the bike. I also own a BMW F850GS and Aprillia Tuareg 660 and agree these bikes are fun to ride on open dirt road sections. My CRF450L is very comfortable and I prefer riding it if I know the trail will get sketchy. At 67 yr old my risk tolerance is not what it was when I was younger so for me the CRF450L is my choice for BDR routes that have some technical riding. Here on the east coast I prefer big bike for MABDR and most of NEBDR, but there are sections in Western Massachusetts and Vermont where I will ride the 450. You mentioned single track ride with friend on Husky 501. The Husky is much easier to ride on single track due to lower weight and slightly shorter wheelbase. Honda extended the swingarm for better road stability as part of dual sport conversion from CRF450X which would be more like Husky on trails. I love my CRF450, but now that I have the Aprilia which is very capable off road I would not mind having a smaller bike like Husky FE350 for more technical riding. Good luck with your motorcycling journey.

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Good luck with this venture and let me know if there;s anything I can do to help!

I've taken a look at the website. Definitely looking forward to seeing the samples. Sick of seeing the same old brands recommended.... shake it up!

I Like this for suuure. I def like looking decent. Well done. I’m here for it! ✌️

Thanks for sharing the fresh experience on the KTM. I had been looking around for comparisons while I was considering the CRF450RL, now I know I made quite a good decision on Honda. Greetings from Thailand 🙏

Here in southern New England most of us ride the "enduro" 2stroke models from KTM, the XCw, TE or EC. Our trails are tight, rocky and wet with many obstacles. The big differences between the "enduro" models vs the "cross country" models is the softer power delivery and more plush suspension. These make the enduros a better ride in technical terrain. I've been out to Moab twice to ride to ride the off-road areas like Golden Spike, Slick Rock, Gemini Bridges etc.... Both times I rode a KTM 300 2stroke enduro model and the bikes did a fantastic job👍

Im considering getting the street legal KTM 500 which I've never rode. I have however ridden very briefly the 300 and it scared me. You think the 500 might actually be a bit tamer to ride despite it having more cc's ?

The aftermarket ECU's throw a lot of fuel at the bike. No way around it if you can't alter the maps yourself, they will always exercise abundant caution to not get sued for bike damage. Problem is, this overfueled state will degrade the oil. Lots of info on fuel dilution on this bike from oil analysis. If you want to try and reclaim some MPG, 550 performance can reflash the stock ECU with a few tunes hes worked on. The decel fuel cut is disabled and could either do stock improved or the 0.5 option. Don't need lots of fuel in low load, just in high load/high RPM. The richness is where they are getting the smoothness as it dulls the burn rate. As far as the back problem, I don't have lots of off road experience, but as you have observed from the other rider you need to relax and be comfortable. When you tense up, all the little jerky motions will not only give you problem, but you also input all this into the bike, making the whole problem worse. A back brace might also be a good idea and comes with some added protection in case of a fall.

The CRF450RL is a duel sport, not and ADV. Its a great bike after a few mods. If you want something less "twitchy" go for the 300-350 class. The 300RL is a better choice for beginners. I went from big litre ADV bikes to a 23 450RL with the taco moto ECU amd Graves full kit, and i dont notice the "on/off" throttle deacribed in the video. My wife's TE150, like all two strokes, has the on/off throttle. Just gotta skill up a bit.

Come on, the Norden is an almost perfect all arounded Adv Bike. Good video pal

A video on the glasses would be nice. Thanks

Sick glasses!

I got the cheapest Fox Comp boots. Never had gear before so wasn’t used to how stiff they were. After they were broken in I would never go back to not wearing them.

This is fantastic. Put aside the manufacturing aspect and this thinking can apply to pretty life in general. Strong work and congratulations on the new business.

Mosko's gear is bomber, and I have had great luck with their products but your observations are pretty similar to what I experienced and heard from others also. I didn't have any issues with my BC35's on the two longer trips I used them on, but decided to sell them and put my money into a rackless system to reduce the weight on the back of the bike (the bags + mounts + racks on my AT are about 25lbs without anything in them - and mostly all aft of the rear axle).

You gotta break em in and get used to them. Also only buy Italian made boots, do your research because alot of companies like to flaunt the Italian flag but use China to make their stuff. Spend the $$$ once and get quality that lasts.

Great points. I would also suggest trying them on at a store if possible. Bought my first pair online and they wouldn’t close around my calves. After researching and emailing boot companies I learned that the tech-7’s actually work for larger calves and that’s how I ended up with them. Getting used to that ‘lack of feeling’ is real.

I actually did like your video Cheers 🍻

After watching so many vids about boots, and hearing stories about people that wish they had better boots (after an accident), I went with Alpinestars Tech 10 and have never looked back. “Buy once, cry once” is true. Full disclosure, my first pair were Astars Corozal. They were comfortable but I could tell they weren’t going to offer enough protection as they broke in.

2 points here. Once you break them in and become familiar with them you wont feel proper without them. Point 2, never ever sell your boots. You may enjoy just putting them on a shelf in your shop or garage to remind you of all the wonderful hours of riding you did with them.

You didn't mention how many miles you have on your Tech 7's, but I don't really have any issues feeling the foot controls in mine AFTER they were good and broken in and I dialed in my peg/shifter placement. I've never been able to really get good feel in low end boots, no matter how much I rode in them.

I got gaerne sg12 and i love em. My feet are wide at the toe and i knew that my number 1 concern was fit. Feel is something i can relearn but fitment was an ultimate must.

I bought the tech 7’s. You forgot to mention the safety-squeak they offer when you dismount. It helps deter wild animals… probably… Great tips.

Considering the Tech 7 and/or the Leatt 5.5 Currently I'm using Klim GTX Adventure Boots

I'm a self taught single track rider. So take that for what it's worth but if found Using the big double track dirt roads as practice to get more comfortable standing. And just work your way into standing on more and more technical stuff.

Our crew rented from Tyler at RMI over the last two years to ride enduro tracks around Moab. We visit form CT, Moab is like riding on a different planet compared to the tight, muddy, wet conditions of New England. Anyway, Tyler is amazing to work with, he even provided a rescue mission when one of the crew broke his wrist way out on Slick Rock... We'll always use RMI 👍 I've only encountered one rider that can ride well sitting down...Most regular people have to be "up on the pegs" to work the bike properly. For me being able to handle slow speed, technical terrain all stems from balance. Static balance is the base skill, then moving to slow as possible cone and figure 8 turn drills makes dramatic improvements in bike handling. Also as you improve on your balance and slow speed maneuvers you'll gain all important clutch and throttle control.

Hey, great to find your videos. I live in Eagle and ride in GJ. I'm also a new adv rider (got a KTM a few months ago) and I also mostly ride alone. I've had a good time at Grand Valley OHV and a pretty tough time at Rabbit Valley. I want to keep riding through the winter in GJ and I'd love to connect.

Can I ask dose the 2023 king come with cruise control?