@@agnikaineverdies7646 Miguel. Rickenberg was somewhat equal to chris, Mitch beat Chris in the school fight in terms of skill. Mitch got bodied by Kyler which Miguel took down.
Hawk is skilled, aggressive, and impulsive fighter. Miguel is skilled, and the smarter fighter so Miguel would win. However, if Hawk can keep himself calm during the fight then he will win.
Think about this the reason people are saying hawk would win in a street fight was because of how much he improved in season 3... but did he? Yeah of course he was constantly training trying to take Miguel’s spot as the champion of cobra Kai but if you look at the individual match ups of the people he fought in season 2 and three the two opponents that come to mind are Sam and demetri now yes hawk demolished demetri in season 3 (he should’ve done that in season 2 anyway) but in his fight against Sam at the laser tag arena she was able to fight hawk an another cobra Kai member at the Sam time exactly like the mall fight so that shows if Sam is still able to fight hawk in a 2v1 scenario then he hasn’t improved as much as people think. Yes the beat down on brucks was brutal and satisfying but he was completely untrained this opponent doesn’t challenge hawk enough to show if he can use his defence against a top tier fighter especially the best street fighter in the show a prime Miguel. So overall a prime Miguel beats hawk just as convincingly as he did at coyote creek.
In season 4, Hawk will be the only character to have been trained by the 3 teachers. Miguel did get a few lessons with Kreese but not enough to matter since at the time, Kreese did not yet have taken over cobra kai. I hope the writers will consider this for the season 4 (tho it’s highly likely that they will make him beat Kyler during the tournament and have him defeated in the next match).
I think they should make hawk the strongest character in season 4 . That would be so cool seeing him advance to final round in tournament instead of Miguel . ( I know this won’t happen )
@@jdoubsone he shouldn't. He's not as smart of a character and isn't one who constantly gets up when he falls (like Miguel) and he lacks motivation (again like Miguel and Robby) He won't be the strongest
@@Johnnoeu3 who is vastly stronger than in S3. I'm just pointing out that even when nerfed Miguel's durability is insane so S2 Miguel has an almost game breaking advantage over Hawk.
@@jamainegardner4193 hawk didn't break his back and only learnt to walk again for 2 days bfor put in a bloody battle. Only Miguel was capable of a miracle like that
I think Season 2 Miguel was his peak. Season 4 he’s getting close to that peak in terms of athleticism but I think the injury set him back a little. In terms of technique he has gotten better in terms of Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do. I still think Season 3 Hawk takes this
Hawk in season 3 will probably be on the same level as Miguel and Robby in season 2 and Sam in season 3. Who wins is another question, but Miguel is smarter in combat and adapts better.
in the coyote creeks fight miguel was holding back a lot because hawk was his friend and brother type and hawk as always was ruthless and plus after hawk threw miguel in the tree miguel took him more seriously and beat him very very quickly
@@zxr8ii, hawk getting handled by Robby was in season 2, he got way better after that, as for Sam, she has plot armor, not even Robby has ever managed to land a hit on her
@@zxr8ii, Miguel and Robby were shown to be better fighters than Sam??? When?? Neither one of them landed any hits on her while she has landed many on them, just as much as she has landed on hawk, Sam has plot armor and hawk never fought Robby in season 3, hawk is the best fighter currently and would decisively beat season 2 Miguel
Hawk is Brutal when It comes to fights and he was really scary in that season but his Fighting skills is Agreesive and Skilled in the other hand Miguel Is Skilled, Champion, and fast learner so this fight would be even Honeslty Hawk would go Red Hulk mode and Fighting dirty going Brutal but Miguel is more smarter at this fight so Miguel would win but if this was season 3 Miguel than hawk would be beating miguel up and Miguel's skill at fighting is really high bc of his lack of fighting so fair fight but Miguel would win and Hawk would lose this fight.....please no hate me :( And I have a video idea what if Terry Silver fought against Johnny idk if this was even a Video but I just wanna see this happen😎
@@agnikaineverdies7646 bruh Miguel is easily the faster learner 😂 u act as if Miguel got years before hawk. He got only like a few weeks of training to beat kyler and his crew
@@beanhead5398 thanks so much for your reply. My personal reason as to why hawk would win is because he has around 9 to 11 months of training and miguel might hesitate in finishing the fight hawk also has 2 senseis under his belt
Idk man Miguel was able to give him trouble in s4 where Miguel’s back is still recovering from that fall and was keeping up w him until he did that tornado kcik
That’d be an easy win by Lawrence and Larusso cuz Kreese could definitely kick Silver’s ass and Johnny and Daniel could both beat the shit outta Kreese
@@flashyk2430 cap? He beat him in the woods, and gave hawk trouble in s4 w that one match till he messed up his hip/back w that tornado kick while he was still recovering
I feel like Miguel s2 don’t need more training to beat hawk season 3 he was shown to be levels above him in coyote creek but if it comes down to s3 hawk it’ll be a really close fight hawk manages to really break down Miguel and Miguel would be exaughsted after the fight with hawk executed but if season 2 Miguel continued training he would probably destroy hawk since he is the smarter fighter
Hawk was still getting dropped by Miyagi-Do until Tory showed up and Sam had her panic attack. I love him but he is still mid tier. Maybe this season with the focus on balance he will reach the top. His weakness are his emotions. When he keeps them intact he is intelligent and can see alternative ways to accomplish goals. Now he has to learn to bring that intelligence into the fight itself. Not lose it once one fist hits. Too busy looking cool while fighting than actually winning. A True Badass does not care. He'll get there.
Ye I feel like if hawk fought smarter and controlled his temper he would win but Miguel is the smarter fighter overall so s2 Miguel would win but it would be a very close match for sure
Man, you guys love Hawk. That's an ez win for Shawn. Hawk doesn't have enough defense and he can't just take hits like Shawn does. That's an ez win for shawn
@@tristanmireles8994 Miguel s3 maybe. But Miguel S2 would best the shit and bury s3 Hawk if he showed no mercy. Miguel s4 will be even stronger than Miguel S2, do good luck
@@hritikdoerga8626 No. Miguel fights smarter,faster, has more endurance, perfect defense and offense, good grapling moves. Miguel was writren to be the karate kid and to be the best among the kids. Hawk was also way smaller then Miguel. It’s aldo not good that Hawk is aggresive, it made him loose to miguel in coyote creek.
Season 3 Hawk would beat Prime Miguel. S2 Hawk was already able to put up a fight against S2 Miguel at Coyote Creek. The distance between the two shouldn't have gotten larger since they both trained after the Coyote Creek fight. So Prime Miguel >~ S2 Hawk. In Season 3, while Miguel is still trying to recover, Hawk is training and developing getting better strength/AP, skill, and speed (Some things training in the KK-verse gives). Hawk should've closed the gap by now and made it larger with him being the superior one. In terms of AP, Speed, and Skill: S3 Hawk > Prime Miguel >~ S2 Hawk.
@@Shawworld12 With my past argument, S3 Hawk > Prime Miguel >= S2 Robby = S3 Robby >~ S2 Hawk. Samantha would just be better than Robby in S3. In Season 2, she was reacting to/blocking attacks from him and stunning him with attacks despite Robby blocking
@@beanhead5398 Hawk and Miguel are relative in S2 with Miguel being a little better than him. S2 Hawk ~< S2 Miguel. After Miguel fell and Johnny failed Cobra Kai, he started training hard with Kreese for months. Hawk should outscale S2 Miguel now.
@@Anime_Boy313 hawk and miguel weren't relative in s2 cos hawk only landend one hit in the forest where miguel landed lot more hits and takedowns plus miguel is alot smarter than hawk so he would probs outsmart hawk. Even then time of training does mean anything in that universe as daniel was able to beat chozen with less training. It would be extremely close but miguel has better balance of offence and defence than hawk but hawk is more athletic
Hawk is more skilled stronger and can take on cobra kais and miyagi dis with ease and I hear that Tory is the best cobra Kai and Miguel he can take down fighters such as robby as hawk cant but I think hawk will still win he can actually resist his attacks and just way stronger so if it was a tournament I do see Miguel but a all out brawl HAWK LOW-MID DIFF
No I saw the full fight between Miguel and hawk and Miguel is way better cuz he has more experience and training while not much skills than hawk or not as durable but at least more speed with skills and some strength to take down hawk so Miguel will win sorry hawk you are the most badass character in the show still and also better fighter than anyone almost slightly better than Robby and Sam in the show except Miguel it's just like in daredevil punisher takes so many hits but managed to gain the upper hand on daredevil there is sometimes a difference for hawk to definitely win against Miguel.
Mike Barnes. It not even close. I'm a Daniel fan and he only won because it was a tournament. Mike Barnes barely gets hurt. Daniel's focus and Kata saved him.
S3 hawk can defeat s2 miguel because he has better defense and offense as s2 hawk didn't have much defense and he fights reckless,with all the training with kreese he can make draw with s3 miguel if miguel wasn't kicked off the 2nd floor
That's false as miguel has balance in his s2 self when it comes to fighting as when ur balanced ur at ur strongest plus the competition hawk faced was nothing compared to the competition miguel s2 faced as all of miguel competition would destroy hawk competition plus miguel s2 is far better than hawk s2 as hawk only landend one hit in the forest where miguel landed alot more hits and takedowns . So if miguel never got kicked off he would of been levels above everyone.
@@beanhead5398 and what do u mean way harder competition hawk faced robby and Sam, and robby is miguel biggest rival lol so what do u mean way harder comletion?
Hawk beat Brucks without taking a hit; Brucks may have grabbed him but Hawks' defense/offense improved significantly since Season 1/2. Miguel on the other hand beat all 5 but most of the time he had to use his environment and a lunch tray, not to mention he was grabbed multiple times by his opponents throughout that fight so it wasn't as flawless as Hawk's fight. This is my reasoning for the theory.
@@StryfetheWarrior the thing is thats legit hawks best feat is beating brucks and brucks wasnt bloodlusted or hatered feeled like hawk was. Amped hawk>brucks but brucks legit scales nowhere....... and u have to quantify how much he improved since s2
@@StryfetheWarrior also miguel was beating kyler pretty easily until they jumped and kyler is portrayed the strongest in the group so even if he wasnt flawless it would go brucks
Hawk also took no damage at all in the Season 3 house fight, so his defense/offense was top notch. He was the reason the entire house fight shifted momentum Also it's not a matter of how strong Brucks is but how each guy handled him that relates to how strong they have become. Miguel may have beaten Brucks alongside a few other people but he didn't get away unscathed. Hawk on the other hand did it very quickly while demonstrating better defense than Miguel's lunch fight in Season 1. Miguel was not even in his prime in Season 1, which is why we used Season 2 as his prime (which so far seems to be universally agreed that he is in his prime during that season). You don't have to agree with me, it's fine. I'm just explaining the reasoning behind it.
Who would win? What's the next matchup you'd like to see?
Sam's video will be out Sunday!
What video about Sam??
Shawn vs hawk S3
Stryfe the Warrior, S3 Miguel vs Rickenberger
@@agnikaineverdies7646 Miguel. Rickenberg was somewhat equal to chris, Mitch beat Chris in the school fight in terms of skill. Mitch got bodied by Kyler which Miguel took down.
Shawn vs Daniel(Karate kid 1)
Hawk is skilled, aggressive, and impulsive fighter. Miguel is skilled, and the smarter fighter so Miguel would win. However, if Hawk can keep himself calm during the fight then he will win.
Nah lmao Miguel is just plain better
demetri and eli binary brtorhrs
@@Shawworld12 or u are just biased
@@sus-el8li he's just biased
Think about this the reason people are saying hawk would win in a street fight was because of how much he improved in season 3... but did he? Yeah of course he was constantly training trying to take Miguel’s spot as the champion of cobra Kai but if you look at the individual match ups of the people he fought in season 2 and three the two opponents that come to mind are Sam and demetri now yes hawk demolished demetri in season 3 (he should’ve done that in season 2 anyway) but in his fight against Sam at the laser tag arena she was able to fight hawk an another cobra Kai member at the Sam time exactly like the mall fight so that shows if Sam is still able to fight hawk in a 2v1 scenario then he hasn’t improved as much as people think. Yes the beat down on brucks was brutal and satisfying but he was completely untrained this opponent doesn’t challenge hawk enough to show if he can use his defence against a top tier fighter especially the best street fighter in the show a prime Miguel. So overall a prime Miguel beats hawk just as convincingly as he did at coyote creek.
In season 4, Hawk will be the only character to have been trained by the 3 teachers.
Miguel did get a few lessons with Kreese but not enough to matter since at the time, Kreese did not yet have taken over cobra kai.
I hope the writers will consider this for the season 4 (tho it’s highly likely that they will make him beat Kyler during the tournament and have him defeated in the next match).
I think they should make hawk the strongest character in season 4 . That would be so cool seeing him advance to final round in tournament instead of Miguel . ( I know this won’t happen )
Like it matters, my beat is they will make Sam and Tory fight in the final and have Sam win. Cause ya know 2021 woke girl power bullshit.
@@jdoubsone he shouldn't. He's not as smart of a character and isn't one who constantly gets up when he falls (like Miguel) and he lacks motivation (again like Miguel and Robby) He won't be the strongest
@@BerserkerJay237 if a girl beats a girl, that’s 2021 woke girl power?
@@saileshnaidu8102 litterly his motivation is to become top dog and is rival is robby 💀 what do u mean he doesn't have motivation
Miguel would win he’s the smarter fighter and knows how to keep his cool
He’s not that good of a character 🙄
@@carlgordon26 who tf said anything about the character? this whole video was about fighting lmfao
@@morganf1968 whatever
@@carlgordon26 better than Hawk
@@saileshnaidu8102 who better than hawk
I'd say Miguel wins because even in Season 3 he took a minimum of 13 kidney punches and was still able to fight like nothing happened.
But this has nothing to do with season 3 Miguel, just season 2 Miguel.
@@Johnnoeu3 who is vastly stronger than in S3. I'm just pointing out that even when nerfed Miguel's durability is insane so S2 Miguel has an almost game breaking advantage over Hawk.
@@jamainegardner4193 and don't forget that Miguel was able to knock out Kyler in just 3 strikes. 2 kicks and that flip and punch
@@saileshnaidu8102 that part doesn't matter quite so much when Hawk in S3 demolishes Kyler.
@@jamainegardner4193 hawk didn't break his back and only learnt to walk again for 2 days bfor put in a bloody battle. Only Miguel was capable of a miracle like that
I think Season 2 Miguel was his peak. Season 4 he’s getting close to that peak in terms of athleticism but I think the injury set him back a little. In terms of technique he has gotten better in terms of Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do. I still think Season 3 Hawk takes this
Season 2 Miguel was his best, he’s not a Cobra anymore
S3 hawk vs s2 Robby
robby would win
hawk would kill him
@@afcedz_ no
Id say Robby
Hawk
Hawk in season 3 will probably be on the same level as Miguel and Robby in season 2 and Sam in season 3.
Who wins is another question, but Miguel is smarter in combat and adapts better.
Hawk would have been the king cobra if he stayed in cobra kia
Next: Miguel season 4 vs hawk season 4
in the coyote creeks fight miguel was holding back a lot because hawk was his friend and brother type and hawk as always was ruthless and plus after hawk threw miguel in the tree miguel took him more seriously and beat him very very quickly
Hawk would be a much better fighter if he didn't let his emotions get the best of him in fights and fight recklessly.He's also cocky and overconfident
Hawk wins decisively, the only reason hawk was inferior before was because Miguel started training earlier
@@zxr8ii, hawk getting handled by Robby was in season 2, he got way better after that, as for Sam, she has plot armor, not even Robby has ever managed to land a hit on her
@@zxr8ii, Miguel and Robby were shown to be better fighters than Sam??? When?? Neither one of them landed any hits on her while she has landed many on them, just as much as she has landed on hawk, Sam has plot armor and hawk never fought Robby in season 3, hawk is the best fighter currently and would decisively beat season 2 Miguel
@@agnikaineverdies7646 I doubt Hawk s3 would beat s2 Miguel but that’s just my opinion atleast.
@@agnikaineverdies7646 no he wouldnt buddy
@@agnikaineverdies7646 actually no, I don't think Hawk got any stronger from season 2 since he didn't beat any major ppl
You mean fellow all valley champion
Miguel won the street fight in the forest
I actually covered it in the video that Miguel has beaten Hawk so far.
@@StryfetheWarrior so Miguel would win both tournament and street fight
@@mezzygaming4629 k
@@StryfetheWarrior I think Miguel would win narrowly in a street fight.
@@StryfetheWarrior you should do kyler vs shawn.
Hawk is Brutal when It comes to fights and he was really scary in that season but his Fighting skills is Agreesive and Skilled in the other hand Miguel Is Skilled, Champion, and fast learner so this fight would be even Honeslty Hawk would go Red Hulk mode and Fighting dirty going Brutal but Miguel is more smarter at this fight so Miguel would win but if this was season 3 Miguel than hawk would be beating miguel up and Miguel's skill at fighting is really high bc of his lack of fighting so fair fight but Miguel would win and Hawk would lose this fight.....please no hate me :(
And I have a video idea what if Terry Silver fought against Johnny idk if this was even a Video but I just wanna see this happen😎
Miguel's skill at fighting is higher because he didn't fight in Season 3?
How exactly is Miguel a faster learner, he started karate before hawk and unlike hawk Miguel had private lessons
@@agnikaineverdies7646 Miguel told Eli that he was gonna get him a discount but Eli didnt bother
@@agnikaineverdies7646 bruh Miguel is easily the faster learner 😂 u act as if Miguel got years before hawk. He got only like a few weeks of training to beat kyler and his crew
@@KG-jw4jg at the beginning we can have his training last for months so he has 3 or 4 months in advance
Pls do “Can Hawk (S3) beat Sam (S2)”
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@@StryfetheWarrior yezzirskee!
@@nomercymashups4433 season 2 Hawk would kick her ass, let alone Season 3.
any version of hawk would beat her 1v1.
@@juicee4 Nah bro
I think hawk would win in a super close fight
Agree 👍
I dont agree if Im honest. Your opinion seems pretty biased too because of your name and profile pic. No offense though : ).
@@imjustaregularhuman3798 would be a close fight for sure
@@nickiboiilifestyle8961 Definitely
I honestly think that Hawk’s endurance,mindset,temper is what would make him loose to Miguel but it would be a close fight and an epic one.
0:39 "Nearly" BTW love your channel.
Supposed to be narrowly, but I can see how it sounds like "nearly"
@@StryfetheWarrior I still think Miguel would dominate bro. Hawk didn't really grow much between the seasons. If Miguel was serious, he would dominate
@@saileshnaidu8102 Exactly
well miguel does have more experience than hawk.So idk
Hawk would win at this point in time
I don't think so
@@beanhead5398 why do you think miguel will win no disrespect I'm just interested in your reason why
@@mokoiakerehoma623 Miguel has fought harder opponent
@@mokoiakerehoma623 that's only one of my reasons
@@beanhead5398 thanks so much for your reply. My personal reason as to why hawk would win is because he has around 9 to 11 months of training and miguel might hesitate in finishing the fight hawk also has 2 senseis under his belt
If it's a street fight Hawk wins and when it's a tournament fight Miguel wins..
Hawk for sure. Hes got the next all valley in the bag
Idk man Miguel was able to give him trouble in s4 where Miguel’s back is still recovering from that fall and was keeping up w him until he did that tornado kcik
Kick*
Have u done Hawk (s3) vs Robby (s2)
Not yet, on the list though
its similar to mike banes and Daniel larruso as Daniel wins in the tournament but in a street fight mike dominates
But miguel would win in both tournament and street fight
@@beanhead5398 💀 cap
@@flashyk2430 how
@@beanhead5398 only reason miguel won was because hawk acted on emotion, and hawk controlled his anger kn season 3, also hawk trained more soooooo
@@beanhead5398 your bias asf
Hask S3 vs Miguel S1 (Valley Tournament) (Tournament Fight)
Hawk
Hask
@@c1eanpow3r lmaoo, my bad
Added to the list!
It’ll be obvious Hawk, Hawk already knows what’s Miguel attacks is gonna be.
Please do silver and kreese VS Lawrence and larruso
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Thx
That’d be an easy win by Lawrence and Larusso cuz Kreese could definitely kick Silver’s ass and Johnny and Daniel could both beat the shit outta Kreese
If Miguel didn’t fall and kept training he would beat hawk
Miguel s2 is stronger than hawk s3
Cap lol
@@flashyk2430 cap? He beat him in the woods, and gave hawk trouble in s4 w that one match till he messed up his hip/back w that tornado kick while he was still recovering
@@rubenb4790 i was trolling
I feel like Miguel s2 don’t need more training to beat hawk season 3 he was shown to be levels above him in coyote creek but if it comes down to s3 hawk it’ll be a really close fight hawk manages to really break down Miguel and Miguel would be exaughsted after the fight with hawk executed but if season 2 Miguel continued training he would probably destroy hawk since he is the smarter fighter
W take
Miguel s2 would win in a street fight
I think this is as fair as it can get because Hawk literally got low - mid diffed in season 2 lol
Miguel would lose most street fights cus he shows mercy. He's too manipulative.
Hawk was still getting dropped by Miyagi-Do until Tory showed up and Sam had her panic attack. I love him but he is still mid tier. Maybe this season with the focus on balance he will reach the top. His weakness are his emotions. When he keeps them intact he is intelligent and can see alternative ways to accomplish goals. Now he has to learn to bring that intelligence into the fight itself. Not lose it once one fist hits.
Too busy looking cool while fighting than actually winning. A True Badass does not care. He'll get there.
unemptysoul, hawk never went to ground, Sam just kicked him once, that’s not getting dropped
@@agnikaineverdies7646 bruh sam and robbie beat him in the mall fight while protecting demetri at the same time
Sam is weak, every time she fights Hawk with Miyagi do members and cobra kai.
@@Johnnoeu3 I think she sucks but how much do you want to bet that she wins the tournament just because.
@@KG-jw4jg 💀 mall fight was plot armor, hawk was beating up robby and then they made him to a dumb superman punch that far away lol
If Hawk Changes His attack Speed and Gives Faster reaction Then there is a chance that Miguel Mind Won't work and won't be able to fight Smarter
Ye I feel like if hawk fought smarter and controlled his temper he would win but Miguel is the smarter fighter overall so s2 Miguel would win but it would be a very close match for sure
Do Shawn vs. Hawk. I think that Shawn would win in a street fight but Hawk would win in a tournament.
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Nahh I think Hawk win on both
Sorry but hawk would win in both
Man, you guys love Hawk. That's an ez win for Shawn. Hawk doesn't have enough defense and he can't just take hits like Shawn does. That's an ez win for shawn
@@kingkaleo1484 I respectfully disagree
Miguel is Prime on S2 So Miguel slams hawk in S3
Is 5
You should do robby s4 vs miguel s2
Hawk is my favourite carachter
Miguel he is Good Cobra Kai
Duch 84 vs hawk season 3 jonnhy 84 vs Miguel season 2 Mike Barnes 85 vs chosen 85
Dude, if Miguel went all in, Hawk would lose no matter which season he's in🤣
Miguel would lose to Hawk in season 3 he would kill him since all the training he’s had
@@tristanmireles8994 Miguel s3 maybe. But Miguel S2 would best the shit and bury s3 Hawk if he showed no mercy. Miguel s4 will be even stronger than Miguel S2, do good luck
@@saileshnaidu8102 , season 3 is not a maybe, it’s a definitely, hawk would mop the floor with him without Miguel touching him once
@@agnikaineverdies7646 season 3 Miguel literally just relearned how to walk lol. season 4 Miguel can destroy Hawk, that much is obvious
What episode is when hawk and miguel are sparring in the the dojo
S4 hawk vs s4 Miguel socks we didn't get to see it
NO ONE can beat Miguel season 2. He is a beast
Miguel (S2) wins but in a really close fight
Fair enough
Miguel s2 would win
@@beanhead5398 yea I was saying that
Street fight: Miguel s2
Tournament: Miguel s2
Overall: Miguel s2
THANK U
Miguel wins both in my opinion for both street and tournament,I think Miguel Season 2 beats all
i don’t think he would beat s3 hawk in a streetfight
No because he is pure agression
Hawk would not win but it would be close
Hawk (S4) Vs Miguel (S2)
Tournament- Miguel high diff
Street fight- Hawk high diff
Hawks needs to talons on his fists.
Let’s all be honest, I LOVE hawk and as much as I want to see he would win i just think Miguel would win both
Hawk in S3 is ruthless. He would win of miguel(S2).
Hawk s3 atleast in my opinion would loose to Miguel s2
@@imjustaregularhuman3798 i think Hawk would win. Hawk is way more aggresiever and stronger in S3. He would destroy miguel(S2)
@@hritikdoerga8626 you are dumb miguel would trash on him obviously this is your opinion and all but miguel would still wipe the floor with him
@@hritikdoerga8626 No. Miguel fights smarter,faster, has more endurance, perfect defense and offense, good grapling moves.
Miguel was writren to be the karate kid and to be the best among the kids.
Hawk was also way smaller then Miguel. It’s aldo not good that Hawk is aggresive, it made him loose to miguel in coyote creek.
Ruthless style doesn't help you against a composed fighter like miguel
Miguel in my opinion would win he actually thinks
No he would win cause of his plot armor
@@IsanG08 right on 💀
Can Daniel (S3) and Johnny (S3) beat Karate kid Kreese?
Added it to the list!
Yes obviously
@@StryfetheWarrior dude your one of the best cobra Kai UA-cam's your not biased like other people and you listen to fans.
@@ronharris8088 I try to be, thank you!
Do miguel vs robbie who would have win in the finale s4
Lmao Miguel in season 2 was at his best he was balanced and he knew when to show mercy and not. He folds hawk low diff😂
Season 3 Hawk would beat Prime Miguel. S2 Hawk was already able to put up a fight against S2 Miguel at Coyote Creek. The distance between the two shouldn't have gotten larger since they both trained after the Coyote Creek fight. So Prime Miguel >~ S2 Hawk. In Season 3, while Miguel is still trying to recover, Hawk is training and developing getting better strength/AP, skill, and speed (Some things training in the KK-verse gives). Hawk should've closed the gap by now and made it larger with him being the superior one. In terms of AP, Speed, and Skill: S3 Hawk > Prime Miguel >~ S2 Hawk.
@@bleachboy3137 hawk wouldn’t stand a chance against s2 Miguel. Miguel literally HELD BACK and folded him.
@@bleachboy3137 Lol that’s bs. Robby S3 is the exact same as s2 school fight and he MOPS hawk. Hawk isn’t isnt Sam level and robby is stronger
@@Shawworld12 Prove that Miguel was holding back wtf
@@Shawworld12 With my past argument, S3 Hawk > Prime Miguel >= S2 Robby = S3 Robby >~ S2 Hawk. Samantha would just be better than Robby in S3. In Season 2, she was reacting to/blocking attacks from him and stunning him with attacks despite Robby blocking
Normal Fight: Miguel Low-Mid Diff
Street Fight: Miguel Mid-High Diff
I am being honest,street fight goes to miguel.
Regards
Are we forgetting S2 Miguel beat Robbie? He did win! Hawk doesn't stand up to those two, easy Miguel win
Miguel fell of the balcony and became weaker while hawk trained and became more stronger🤦🏻♂️
@@eesa.m4 it legit says s2 Miguel, The Champ himself would destroy S3 Hawk
@@eesa.m4 time of training doesn't mean anything in that universe
Miguel
How about season 3 robby or season 3 hawk
Hawk
How about Miguel season two with drum Technique vs hawk season 3
Nahh too unfair
Could be interesting. I'll add it to the list!
u could see miguel clapping robby in season 2 even robby said "u do remember the last time we fought right" Yeah Robby was getting his ass kicked.
Hawk wins.
S2 Hawk ~< S2 Miguel < S3 Hawk
Nah miguel is better than hawk
@@beanhead5398 No
@@Anime_Boy313 how tell me ur reasoning
@@beanhead5398 Hawk and Miguel are relative in S2 with Miguel being a little better than him. S2 Hawk ~< S2 Miguel. After Miguel fell and Johnny failed Cobra Kai, he started training hard with Kreese for months. Hawk should outscale S2 Miguel now.
@@Anime_Boy313 hawk and miguel weren't relative in s2 cos hawk only landend one hit in the forest where miguel landed lot more hits and takedowns plus miguel is alot smarter than hawk so he would probs outsmart hawk. Even then time of training does mean anything in that universe as daniel was able to beat chozen with less training. It would be extremely close but miguel has better balance of offence and defence than hawk but hawk is more athletic
Hawk will win ❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
this guy s iq
Hawk>miguel>mike
Nah s2 Miguel would still win a street fight at high-extreme diff
But in tournament I'd say Miguel wins midd diff
Miguel would win in both
Miguel would win in sparing and street fight
how bout season 3 miguel
Season 3 Miguel is getting slapped up
Hawk s3 beats miguel season 2
Nah not really
Something hawk can 100 win has my favored character I'm 8 $#$#$
Stop the cap hawk ain't winning
Tory vs Julie Pierce
Julie?
Miguel literally beat hawk in a street fight
Why would Miguel win easily but hawk would win in a street fight
Hawk is more skilled stronger and can take on cobra kais and miyagi dis with ease and I hear that Tory is the best cobra Kai and Miguel he can take down fighters such as robby as hawk cant but I think hawk will still win he can actually resist his attacks and just way stronger so if it was a tournament I do see Miguel but a all out brawl HAWK LOW-MID DIFF
Hawk would lose because miguel is main character and he is skilled it would be close not that much close but miguel was a beast im s2😃Also im hawk fan
No I saw the full fight between Miguel and hawk and Miguel is way better cuz he has more experience and training while not much skills than hawk or not as durable but at least more speed with skills and some strength to take down hawk so Miguel will win sorry hawk you are the most badass character in the show still and also better fighter than anyone almost slightly better than Robby and Sam in the show except Miguel it's just like in daredevil punisher takes so many hits but managed to gain the upper hand on daredevil there is sometimes a difference for hawk to definitely win against Miguel.
Season 3 Hawk vs karate kid 3 Mike Barnes
Hawk would get bodied
Mike Barnes. It not even close. I'm a Daniel fan and he only won because it was a tournament. Mike Barnes barely gets hurt. Daniel's focus and Kata saved him.
Added to the list!
Hawk
Miguel easily. We already saw him punk hawk in a “street fight”... there were no rules in the woods.
Well I guess u never saw him fall of the balcony and be weaker and hawk it stronger
@@eesa.m4 champions know how to pick themselves up after they fall
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Learn to read. It says season 2 miguel vs season 3 hawk. The injury is irrelevant in this matchup
Bro really sad hawk can take more damage
Nah season 3 hawk would slam season 2 Miguel
HAWK WINS💪😎🦅
No he won't
Miguel will will bc his skill and his iq
S3 hawk can defeat s2 miguel because he has better defense and offense as s2 hawk didn't have much defense and he fights reckless,with all the training with kreese he can make draw with s3 miguel if miguel wasn't kicked off the 2nd floor
That's false as miguel has balance in his s2 self when it comes to fighting as when ur balanced ur at ur strongest plus the competition hawk faced was nothing compared to the competition miguel s2 faced as all of miguel competition would destroy hawk competition plus miguel s2 is far better than hawk s2 as hawk only landend one hit in the forest where miguel landed alot more hits and takedowns . So if miguel never got kicked off he would of been levels above everyone.
@@beanhead5398 💀 hawk landed 3 while miguel landed 5, that isn't a lot more, also hawk was able to keep up with miguel despite having no defense
@@beanhead5398 your bias asf, and hawk faught robby and almost one in tell plot armor took place and made him do a dumb superman punch that far away
@@beanhead5398 season 3 haw was able to control his emotions, and and not control his emotions is what made him loose against miguel season 2
@@beanhead5398 and what do u mean way harder competition hawk faced robby and Sam, and robby is miguel biggest rival lol so what do u mean way harder comletion?
Season 3 Hawk wins
Hawk would win
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Nah Miguel wins.
hawk would win s3
Migule wod win in street fitght is he sow no merce
Im sorry this is so wrong the only inverse scaling he has is beating someone who miguel beat in a 1v5 in episode 5 LMAO
Hawk beat Brucks without taking a hit; Brucks may have grabbed him but Hawks' defense/offense improved significantly since Season 1/2.
Miguel on the other hand beat all 5 but most of the time he had to use his environment and a lunch tray, not to mention he was grabbed multiple times by his opponents throughout that fight so it wasn't as flawless as Hawk's fight.
This is my reasoning for the theory.
@@StryfetheWarrior the thing is thats legit hawks best feat is beating brucks and brucks wasnt bloodlusted or hatered feeled like hawk was. Amped hawk>brucks but brucks legit scales nowhere....... and u have to quantify how much he improved since s2
@@StryfetheWarrior also miguel was beating kyler pretty easily until they jumped and kyler is portrayed the strongest in the group so even if he wasnt flawless it would go brucks
@@jadyndiaz1041, hawk fought a stronger version of brucks
Hawk also took no damage at all in the Season 3 house fight, so his defense/offense was top notch. He was the reason the entire house fight shifted momentum
Also it's not a matter of how strong Brucks is but how each guy handled him that relates to how strong they have become. Miguel may have beaten Brucks alongside a few other people but he didn't get away unscathed. Hawk on the other hand did it very quickly while demonstrating better defense than Miguel's lunch fight in Season 1.
Miguel was not even in his prime in Season 1, which is why we used Season 2 as his prime (which so far seems to be universally agreed that he is in his prime during that season).
You don't have to agree with me, it's fine. I'm just explaining the reasoning behind it.
So it's a tie
Miguel 2 temp wins
Miguel will always beat Hawk! He wrecked him once!
Hawk wouldn’t even win once Miguel will alway’s win
Kidding
S4 hawk would obliterate S2 miguel
He didn’t even look like he was gonna beat Miguel I’m the tournament
That’s not fair ofc S4 Hawk would fold S2 Miguel
Fax