There is a culturally rather sensitive book in NZ entitled 'A Trader in Cannibal Land' published in 1838 written by a Danish trader named Tapsell. This book was kept within the NZ Ministry of Defence's Headquarters Library. Tapsell married the daughter of a paramount chief and was inducted fully into the tribal framework and all the everyday activities conducted. He was so horrified by what he saw with his own eyes that he felt himself compelled to record it for history. It was normal practice to take captives from other tribes to an island and break both ankles so that they were unable to leave from there easily. As fresh meat was required from time to time the island depository would be re-visited and sufficient meat for the planned festivities and feasting was taken from chosen captives, either in whole, but more usually by maiming and partial dismemberment thereby ensuring a remaining living fresh supply for the days that followed. This was an early form of conservation. Public reference to historical cannibalism in NZ has remained officially disapproved of and completely disallowed by successive governments, without exception.
My Maori friend was quite civilized...I even taught him how to play golf and he prooved to be quite competitive on the course. He could outdrive me by 50 yards, but I was a better putter than he, so at the end of the day it balanced out.
It's stories like this, that are often forgotten when discussing the conflicts between europeans and natives. The world is not just black and white. All humans can be monsters.
Columbus used that same excuse to turn 9 year olds into sex slaves, feed people babies to dogs for not giving them enough gold because one group of people were cannibals. The United States killed millions of Iraqis because a Saudi terrorist leader stationed and backed by Afghanistan blew up the twin towers. It's all in justifying for the wicked.
@@Mike-mh6jd Depends on the nation. Those New Zealand tribes raped the British soldiers. Same as in Afghanistan. Southern India and other places. The small areas Europeans did control they controlled with an iron fist but due to disease and population couldn't hold on to it so they made myths about themselves to display their "dominance".
@@hendrytjj could you please possibly give me the name of the books if you can remember? I'm very interested in learning more as this side of the history wasn't taught to me in school
@@patrickhauraki8713 were** - and no I wasn't born under a rock, I was born in New Zealand and went to public primary and high school yet I was never taught this, that's why I am on here trying to learn more.. feel free to suggest any books
I live about twenty-five minutes drive from the Whangaroa Harbour. The story is more or less known about in the area but it is certainly not widely aired. Abject political correctness and a sanitised version designed not to offend anyone has seen to that. I've been here since the mid-70s and there were details in your video that I was unaware of. My thanks.
When I worked in Papua New Guinea in 78-79 I remember (hopefully correctly) that at that time the PNG Government passed a law making it illegal to kill a person to eat them, but not making the act of cannibalism illegal.
@@darkpast089 look on Hans Staden filme en tupi antigo.A German sold in the 15 hundreds to a brasilian canibal tribe.A shocking real story in the language of this tribe.I never saw a more crazy film. enjoy
yep payback is a bitch ,to think how many natives were killed by british sailors and men, in australia alone and then when its was settled then all natives were treated worse than the african americans even to this day in 2023?
@@darkpast089generally speaking they also took weapons / gun powder to fight other tribes. It wasn't all "fight the colonisers". Maori loved fighting, infact they still do... they go 0 to 100 over a wrong glance. The bash. Watch "Once Were Warriors", that film has classy well spoken and civilised individuals compared to now.
@steve morro when dealing with palefaced savages...you earn respect through SL@UGHTER. Those cowardly europeons thought TWICE from then on. good job, Maru...
Very well told. I always find the Maori stories and history interesting. My cousins are from Waitara. Taranaki Maori/Irish. Very proud of both races. I always wanted to visit New Zealand but I have always been so poor. My mum and dad went there and got a great welcome from the family and local Māori.
One of my earlier patriarchal forebears straight from Scotland married a local girl whose descendants are now quite numerous in the Matata area of the North Island, but they are hard guys who are allegedly not welcome to visit the regional main city of Hamilton. Turning up to make myself known to them, with the same family surname, would be interesting to do. Hopefully they would be welcoming, but maybe not..?? Not sure what might be the outcome . .
I live in tarainki and it's bad place hole county iv allways wanted to leave nz but to poor I'm really warred about everyones safety and I can't say why having kids😢
In 1986, Halleys Comet returned. This was poorly visible from the northern hemisphere, so it was a great excuse to visit New Zealand. My first wife and I spent ten days divided between the two islands and then ten days in Australia. Great trip. Little did I know at that time my wife would run off with another man, and I would end up meeting and marrying a woman who was born and raised in AU. While I've never returned to NZ, we have visited AU on four occasions. Her brother, Denis, was once a speach writer for Malcomb Fraiser, the former PM of Australia. I've never bought a new car in my life...would much rather spend my money on traveling. New motorcycles? Well, that's another story. BHE
@@demonsmasheroni7354 i completely understand that . . the country has changed remarkably since 2020 . . the lockdowns seemed to alter the personalities of the younger ones . . now the 14 to 17 year olds are utterly lawless . . stolen car ram raids EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK . . we are no longer safe here, and the Police don't seem to do much about it.. these criminals if caught just get home detention or diversion, even after hacking peoples' fingers off with machetes and sledging them with hammers.:(
Never heard of this event before? Not surprising since Iwi generally deny all knowledge of cannibalism. Part of their history that they take pains not to make a meal of. 🤫
My father fought in WW2. He spent 6 months in Australia before he was sent to New Guinea. He never spoke about his time in the war until I was in high school. He had shared stories with my brothers, but not with me. He once said that he lost more of his men to cannibals than he did to the Japanese! I heard him telling my brothers and his nephews that the men from the tribes would sneak into the American encampment at night----and abduct soldiers who went to the latrine or were sleeping. Sometimes 6 weeks to a few months later, the missing soldiers' dog tags would turn up, secured to a tent post or hung by the latrines for others to find. One soldier shot himself in the foot after one of his friends disappeared, and this soldier was ready to do anything to escape the island. My father was a SGT, and he took the loss of his men very hard. He came back from WW2 with malaria, dengue fever and jungle rot----he coped with these ailments, but he never forgot the men who were brutally tortured and killed----and then eaten.
Incredible story. By the 1930s New Guinea tribes that practiced cannibalism had already stopped mainly due to the pressure of the Australian colonial government, this was particularly true in the coasts and islands not so however for the inland and highland areas of New Guinea where certain groups maintained their cannibalism well into the 70s
@@LamatoPaqali-gc4gq My father used to go to his Battery H reunions every September. When I was an adult he told me that the men all said they were scarred emotionally from their friends being taken and eaten by the cannibals. My father used to have horrible dreams when he was suffering from bouts of the dengue fever. He would relive his time in New Guinea, and the neighbors complained about his screaming----until my oldest brother told them why my father was yelling. Today, no one can envision going to fight a war and having to battle cannibals for your very survival. Thank you for your comments in your post. Appreciate it.
Two cannibals had caught and cooked up a clown. As they were sitting on a log eating part of the clown, one cannibal said to the other "Does this meat taste funny to you?"
One cannibal found another cannibal spewing his ringer. He asks, 'What is wrong my friend?' The other replied, 'Oh man, it's so hard bringing up a family these days!'
Although I am little familiar To the experience of story tellers, i found myself attracted to listeniing to this story because of the way it is delivered. Thank you.
My father had a friend, now dead, who was a magistrate in french colony of Africa in 1960. One of the last cases he tried was a young man from Togo or Benin who had kidnapped a young girl of another ethnicity for human sacrifice….. 1960 is not far away from us. So be careful.
The captain of a Royal Navy ship was judge, jury and almost executioner. He'd usually have his bosun or man at arms to do the real nasty stuff. Any man who crossed a captain was likely to be hurt and maimed. Just look at what a true keel hauling is. So, as others have said, the son of a savage, tribal chief or not, will be treated no worse, if anything, maybe a little better than any other man. Lots of captains were brutal in the extreme. Some of it was usually out of fear, as if they lost control of 50-70 tough sailors, then it would be the captain who would meet a grim fate.
That may have been true early In the book how the Royal Navy changed the world .A captain in the Royal Navy was only allowed to administer a dozen lashes .If it was a hanging offense. The ship was required to return to England to face an Admiralty court
and by giving the 'ships punishment' to the son of the Maori chief, they totally forgot what the implications would be if that lad ever got back to his home, and reported the incident to his father. And that is what happened. Whoops. Just a little cultural 'fox pas'
@@colonelfustercluck486faux pas. But yes, this is what the other side needs to hear. Just because that was the expected behavior of a ship Captain doesn't mean we will accept it. You can treat your own people in such a manner, but not us
@@thomasklimchuk441 Sure they sailed for a year to get in sight of a new country only to have to turn around and sail a year back to England to attend Admiralty court...that sounds plausible
No Australia then. HMS Boyd came from the British colony of NSW which then comprised the whole east coast of Australian (Qld, NSW, Vic). Good story that I was unaware of.
Fascinating and great rundown. I'm a fan of the questionably good cannable-themed horror/comedy 'Ravenous' from 1999. I wonder if the main protagonist's name Boyd in that movie is a reference to this event?
My first experience of crazy cannibal natives was from Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Men’s Chest 😂. So I never heard of this benevolent cannibalism of the natives that certain people always like to whine about
@@MohamedShou The Moari were colonizers, slavers as well as cannibal like the Aztecs. There's no such thing as benevolent cannibalism and mass punishment for one person's crime is a crime in and of itself.
@@MohamedShou Fijians were well known for it . . also Papua New Guineans . . and the Maori, who had it down to a fine art, including shrinking the leftover heads for keepsakes, and trade and sale of course!
Well told - This is a recurring theme throughout my experience with people in general. You cant do only one thing - there are always consequences, repercussions, and ramifications. Think carefully about what you do especially when honor is at stake.
whos Honor are you thinking about , it sounded more like revenge to me on everyones part , more so the wailers , there were never even effected at all by the early actions .
We'll find out one day that we are responsible for every single action, word, and even thought, over all the days of our lives here. Scary thought . . ! : )
Great upload. Only one thing to add. You mentioned that the Māori took the muskets as they were at war with British colonists. Untrue: Iwi in the Northland were beginning to use this new technology against each other with the only European involvement being the procurement of arms. The first actual engagement with British troops didn't occur until 1845.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the correction, I guess it tracks with experiences of other recently displaced peoples like in the western United States during the 1800s.
@@darkpast089 So how were Indigenous People using powdered based weapons without a prior conflict with Europeans? There is such a Push for the narrative of "look they were having social conflict before we came and brought Genocide". It's a colonial syndrome of sorts. So you are correct in your video. -COMANCHE NATION
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 Maori were willing traders. They were also willing warmongers, who needed the slightest excuse to go to war with any other tribe that was probably weaker & and defeat/assimilate (by slavery &/or devouring them usually). This incident occurred in the period European encounters were often via sealing gangs hunting seal skins (pre whaling) and it was common practice to put a sealing gang ashore, head North & purchase a cargo of timber spars or flax fibre to take to Sydney (Port Jackson), then return & pick up the sealers & their skins. The trading with Maori for spars and food (Maori rapidly exploited this opportunity) was often for muskets. Tribes trading successfully could get muskets, then go visit the problem neighbours who had been giving them a hard time and demonstrate the advantage of muskets vs spears (just as Arab traders did in Africa in the mid-late 1800s). So shifting the narrative to anti-colonialism is in error. The Whangaroa tribes were at the learning stage, as few trading vessels had visited, and so were not fully familiar with firearms (hence blowing themselves up). Soon afterwards many tribes became desperate for trading opportunities, as to survive they needed muskets. Learn the deeds of Hongi Hika, a chief from a little further down the coast who imported enough to massacre everyone who had slighted his ancestors & whose rampage depopulated large areas of the upper North Island. By the time he got south other successful trading tribes were well enough armed to resist effectively. Between about 1810 and 1830 Maori annihilated themselves in a manner they couldn't achieve with spears. And at the end of that period, with greatly increased trading & Whaling, Britain was invited to enter into a treaty, the content & consequences of which is still cause for dispute today. The evil colonist narrative belongs elsewhere, as does its use to make excuses for personal choices (different from historic injustices).
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 hey Chief, NZ Maori here. Europeans arrived in the late 1700s chasing whales, then spars from native timber, flax for ropes etc. Tribes in the north of the north island had 1st contact, a trade developed between ship captains and maori chiefs. The price for 1 musket, was one ton of potatoes, or, one ton of dressed flax, or, one tattooed maori head, sold as curios in Sydney, london. What are now known as the "musket wars" took place. A terrible inter tribal war took place over 30 years, 1802-1834 approx. Resulting in total annihilation of some tribes, displacement of many and a death toll conservatively estimated at more than half the population. The arrival of british sovereignty in 1840, "Treaty of Waitangi" was supposed to bring order and laws to maori(natives) and pakeha(non maori, brits, aussies, americans, black or white etc). Instead, it became a tool to disenfranchise maori of our land, traditions, mana(traditional enhancement, power, personal, accrued thru brave selfless lives. A war then developed between individual maori tribes and brit imperial army, then colonial army from. 1845, as the gentleman said, and 1878, 33 years later. We have honoured our ancestors by fighting in court ever since then, the govt has been paying settlements since 1996, and we continue to pursue independant sovereignty over our own affairs and the well being of our people. We continue to make good progress. Arohanui(big love)
@@jimbo43ohara51 the pronounciation changes year to year,. bit like maori history and culture.....depends on who's listening and how much money they want this time
It sort of has been, released this year (2024) and called, 'The Convert' starring Guy Pearce. It shows Maori massacring sailors and taking over the ship but no reference to cannibalising their bodies. It does, however, mention cannabalising another tribe in passing. It's a good movie.
This event and also. 1807-1808 Battle of Moremonui (Te Kai A Te Karoro) (The Feast of The Black-Backed Gull) quick story: The First battle in which muskets were used , Ngapuhi Tribe Vs Ngati Whatua Tribes, Ngati Whatua won . Killed so many Ngapuhi that day the Ngati Whatua could not eat and digest all the dead Ngapuhi lay spread on the Ripiro Beach/Moremonui Gully, So much so that the black backed seagulls feasted on the Ngapuhi as a result of abundance, Negligence. Nga Puhi survivors : Hongi Hika(Warchief Musket wars) , Te Ruki Kawiti (Chief of Ruapekapeka) Te Puhi(Chief responsible for the Attack on Boyd ).
@@damienwilloughby mostly yes, cook island Maori speak a different dialect to nz Maori. While they are related clearly, so is Tahiti and most of the other islands across the Pacific to an extent
It's only the very recent ones (mostly since written history kept since European visits) that are well known. The actions behind the numerous skeletal remains with broken legs (& fatal injuries), shellfish shells & nephrite flakes in the Southern mountains would make for grim entertainment. Suggests the treatment of slaves on the Atlantic trade was positively benign. Must be other places with similar pre-European remains whose origin record seems to have been lost.
*Then there was that missionary who was in the trip who got caught. He was cooked and eaten. Months after, another missionary arrived and noticed the indigenous people still struggling to cook a part of the earlier missionary! The indigenous people complained that despite cooking for days on end, this part of the missioner's body was so hard to chew into pieces. The new missionary asked to see which part they'd been cooking for months, and lo and behold, they pulled out a pair of leather boots!!!*
That was a very interesting story about HMS Boyd, I remember hearing something about it many years ago, but it was nice to have my memory refreshed. Thank you.
I won't get made the current spin on things is that Maori were nothing but kind to everyone and cannibalism and war never happened here before Europeans
I wouldn't say that we Maori don't acknowledge this past... because we do... Infact, our history isn't shared as much as it should be! The good, the bad, and the ugly regardless we as Maori acknowledge it..... its the colonizers who dont acknowledge the history... in fear of people realising how bad things were and the damage they done.... not just in NZ but all over the world!
@@kishak4378 True that - some Te Iwi Maori ate people or at least parts of people...AND so did many other Cultures all over the world - this ridiculous notion that we are supposed to be horrified/embarrassed/shameful??? at what were standard practices of the day is simply not true. It happened....AND - I agree completely we acknowledge our past, how else can we learn and move forward - well said
@@kishak4378 what have the maori contributed to anyone but themselves? what cultures have the maori championed at all but themselves? whose history do you go out of the way to share within your own culture that isn't about you? what would've happened if the roles were reversed? "butbutbut muhhh colonizerssss ;(;("
Cannibalism in the Caribbean islands coined the term barbecue. The victims were roasted over a fire with green bamboo strips ( barbets -barbiqeuts), thus evolved the word barbecue. Now, enjoy those ribs😁
Also where the word cannibal came from. The Caribs were also called Canibs. P.s. thanks, I'm currently reading about William Dampier, the authors said bbq came from the Caribbean but didn't explain how. They did however explain that Buccaneer comes from the escaped slaves and indentured servants supported themselves by drying the meat of wild cows and pigs on a wrack called a boucain which they then sold and traded, this was before going to sea became the industry of those men.
Nope. The word came from barbacoa, which was a wooden structure, not the method of cooking. They were used to smoke and cure fish. You could also use a barbacoa for storage, or as a platform to sleep on. When the Spanish adopted it, it took on the meaning of a way to prepare food.
Fyi... Its possibly the main reason my family and ancestors never had our island, Stephenson's Island and our inland land taken off us during colonisation of the British, Verbal history says that over 100 European were killed, i was told as a child 110 were gutted, cooked and eaten by my Tribal elders. 2 were left alive, a woman who ended up mute and assimilated into the people as she was taken as a slave, a concubine, but never bred!! And a child, the only child aboard The Boyd a European boy who was assimilated into our tribe . This was told to me by my grandmother who would be 126 if she was alive today, she said her mother told her this story
i like how at the end you put the blame on the captain. The kid was supposed to be doing a job and the captain followed his rules and procedure for keeping order on board his ship. Do you think massacring and cannibalizing the entire crew is justice for whipping one sailor who wasn't obeying orders? Most of the crew would have been flogged at some stage, it was normal
@@darkpast089 Yes, killing and eating humans was commonly practised by all nations in the 1800s. The Maori were only doing what everyone else was doing. But it wasn't a "moment", dark or otherwise, but a centuries old tradition. They were adept at keeping their food supplies fresh for as long as possible, knowing which parts to slice off first without the rest of the meat spoiling.
He was framed with the missing food utensils or he was insolent towards the ship captain. The fact that most of the entire crew was massacred shows that the first scenario is more likely.
@@broadside1944 The commentator is justifying cannibalism as a proper course of revenge when someone does you perceivably improper or wrong. If you think that's funny then I know a good shrink for ya.
Wow! People eat each other. People do worse than that to one another. At least your nasty old dead body isn’t going to waste. It’s a protein source after all.
the trouble with this theory is that the English and their Australian subjects arrived in New Zealand, at that time run by Maori tribes and their chiefs, not the British or Australia. They had a distinctly different culture from the 'Pakeha" (outsiders, but often explained as the whites). Their customs and culture were entrenched for roughly 800 years at that time. If you attacked or disrespected a Chief or his family, you would expect one hell of a problem. The Maori had a custom known as 'Utu', or revenge or payback........ and they were not half hearted about it. It was just the custom. As for the Pakeha getting hurt feelings for visiting NZ and being subject to the local law or customs, that is a bit self entitled. If they didn't like it, they should never have visited in the first place. That was just the way things rolled back then. You got to look at this thru the lense of the time is occured, and the rules in place in that area, at that time. Usually the relationship between Maori and 'Pakeha' was pretty good and many successful business's, marraiges etc started from these beginnings. However some really nasty incidents did happen, with 'blame' lying on both sides, depending on the incident. About young Maori men traveling around on sailing ships, that was fairly common. Sometimes as a local guide/translator, sometimes as crew for cross Tasman trips to Australia, sometimes to England. Sometimes on whalers in the early days.
@@Joefest99 Awww poor Joe doesn't like having his nonsense pointed out. You dismissed multiple other people's comments as not fitting your narrative. If you can do it then understand it can be done to you too.
@@2wahineandadog I didn’t dismiss anything. But facts are facts. Let’s tell the story like it actually happened, and not lie about it. Don’t you want the ACTUAL story in its entirety, not embellished? 🤷♂️
It's important to remember that every time you hear "the duties of ship's boy", we're talking about a bunch of men on a ship for months at a time with no women. It's disturbing to think about but a lot of history is. The story actually makes a lot more sense when you consider what that boy might have told his father.
@@7071t6 Sodomy trials were more common on old British Navy ships than murder trials and that's the military. Shit was way worse on non-military ships and if the captain was in on the "fun", God help anyone onboard who had no rights and couldn't defend themselves. Imagine what went on aboard slave ships (men, women and children).
Where I once worked in California, a Maori came to work there and we became friends. I taught him how to play golf, and we played for years together. ONLY twice, while on an especially isolated portion of the course, did he ever attempt to eat me! Lucky for me I was a former champion faster runner!
@@kiwikat8143 Thanx I visited both islands in 1986 and bought a couple of Maori bolo ties, which I still wear. His name was Lou Uipi, played on an exhibition rugby team and played foreign teams just for entertainment. He was a great friend, but died suddenly from a heart attack while at work, and was dead before he hit the floor....had just turned 40. One of the toughest funerals I ever attended.
Thank you for this piece of history.here is some info for u about the Boyd in a previous trip to Aotearoa the Boyd stopped at kororareka and kiddnaped sevaral Maori women an carried on along the coast.these actions in latter years was cause of many invasion of other tribes along the east coast of the north island.
@Dark Past be wary of maori oral traditions, over the years they've been changed and often entirely fabricated in order to justify atrocities against settlers.
Don't think I've ever heard of this one before. Interesting. I had a total of four Commanding Officers at sea during my days. Fortunately, the days of tyrants like the CO of the Boyd are gone. At least, in the USN and likely most other navies worldwide. Might still exist in some navies? Not sure.
Great that you are telling the story but the images are just so far off. Tahiti. South Island. Clippers. Brigs not brigantines. Im being pedantic? Yeah nah, you have to be historically & geographically correct mate. BTW I lived in Whangaroa harbour.
i heard somewhere, the last ever British slave was owned by Maoris, some other British ships arrived to do trade and the British slaves begged them to buy them but they didnt
You probably watched that on a Disney movie. Half the reason we had so many British countrymen is that they jumped ship after years on board ships and Te Iwi Maori amalgamated them into the tribe. Hard workers who just wanted to belong somewhere and are willing to cut logs and haul them back to the Kainga together make great neighbours.
The story of the HMS Boyd would make a great horror movie. A good title could be: 1. "HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR EUROPEAN MEAT?" 2. "MEAT EATERS?" 3. "HMS BOYD - THE LONG PORK EATERS?" 4. "THE MAORI MEAT EATERS."
The captain DID show restraint for that time in history. He didn't have the kid thrown overboard or killed. This is a wonderful example of how our current culture shapes our opinions. Confirmation bias is a bitch. Other than that, great vid.
@@codychickadee5095 They usually only cannibalized the leader of the other "war parties" or "tribes" whatever they happened to be fighting at the time. They probably didn't eat everyone and if they did it's kinda a normal old barbaric thing native people do.
I have heard the cabin boy on the Boyd felt sorry for the Chiefs son chained up. Snuck him food and water. For this act his life was spared. So try be kind to others it might help you down the road.
@@melvert33 it's an excellent methapor though and on point. Kindness doesn't come naturally to everyone. But if people sense a possible advantage in not treating others like crap, everybody wins.
@Truth Reigns Forever i agree but itd prob be rub people the wrong way. especially any Maori people now, portraying them as savage cannibals. truth or not
@@diegoaespitia you’re right, there are other stories or true stories that Hollywood could produce a movie by? No need to embarrass or cause discomfort to Māori people today.
You could read up on the history of the Chatham Islands . Inhabited by the Moriori and ethnically cleansed by incoming Maori during the 1830s. About 95% of the Moriori were murdered or enslaved.
I thoroughly enjoyed your storytelling. Whether entirely factual or comprised of fragments and embellishments, I genuinely appreciate the experience and the opportunity to have encountered it.
@@smartypants5036and white man used fraudulent documentation to steal land and those accounts are documented and some not all of the land has been given back.
I appreciate your considered approach to this reporting. NZ is full of interesting stories, although most Countries are I guess. But it always best to do as you have done and if you aren't sure of all the facts to accept it is a version of a story compiled to interest an audience.
There is a culturally rather sensitive book in NZ entitled 'A Trader in Cannibal Land' published in 1838 written by a Danish trader named Tapsell. This book was kept within the NZ Ministry of Defence's Headquarters Library. Tapsell married the daughter of a paramount chief and was inducted fully into the tribal framework and all the everyday activities conducted. He was so horrified by what he saw with his own eyes that he felt himself compelled to record it for history. It was normal practice to take captives from other tribes to an island and break both ankles so that they were unable to leave from there easily. As fresh meat was required from time to time the island depository would be re-visited and sufficient meat for the planned festivities and feasting was taken from chosen captives, either in whole, but more usually by maiming and partial dismemberment thereby ensuring a remaining living fresh supply for the days that followed. This was an early form of conservation. Public reference to historical cannibalism in NZ has remained officially disapproved of and completely disallowed by successive governments, without exception.
Hans Homman Felk or Falk (probably Falk), also known as Philip Tapsell, was Danish and not Norwegian, according to the book. 😊
My Maori friend was quite civilized...I even taught him how to play golf and he prooved to be quite competitive on the course. He could outdrive me by 50 yards, but I was a better putter than he, so at the end of the day it balanced out.
humans eat all type of animals but humans cant eat humans.....what logic is that....
@@blackholeentry3489you mean maori I think
True
It's stories like this, that are often forgotten when discussing the conflicts between europeans and natives. The world is not just black and white. All humans can be monsters.
thats true but im sure at least a few or at least 50% were innocent people jus living
Ahhhh “Black and White”, I see what you did there
Columbus used that same excuse to turn 9 year olds into sex slaves, feed people babies to dogs for not giving them enough gold because one group of people were cannibals. The United States killed millions of Iraqis because a Saudi terrorist leader stationed and backed by Afghanistan blew up the twin towers. It's all in justifying for the wicked.
@atanasatanasov5437 that's what you got for being less advanced 😅
@@Mike-mh6jd Depends on the nation. Those New Zealand tribes raped the British soldiers. Same as in Afghanistan. Southern India and other places. The small areas Europeans did control they controlled with an iron fist but due to disease and population couldn't hold on to it so they made myths about themselves to display their "dominance".
I'm from New Zealand and we are not told about this history at all... crazzzzy to imagine all that happening here not long ago at all!
Me nz too and I also never heard about the story
Guess it doesn’t fit into the Maori history story
We're you born under a rock
This is a really old story. There are plenty of books around that document this and many other incidents.
@@hendrytjj could you please possibly give me the name of the books if you can remember? I'm very interested in learning more as this side of the history wasn't taught to me in school
@@patrickhauraki8713 were** - and no I wasn't born under a rock, I was born in New Zealand and went to public primary and high school yet I was never taught this, that's why I am on here trying to learn more.. feel free to suggest any books
I live about twenty-five minutes drive from the Whangaroa Harbour. The story is more or less known about in the area but it is certainly not widely aired. Abject political correctness and a sanitised version designed not to offend anyone has seen to that. I've been here since the mid-70s and there were details in your video that I was unaware of. My thanks.
Ah yes. Believe someone who has never visited the place let alone the country over the people who live here
I would debate the term "details" and instead use biased conjecture designed for clickbait
When I worked in Papua New Guinea in 78-79 I remember (hopefully correctly) that at that time the PNG Government passed a law making it illegal to kill a person to eat them, but not making the act of cannibalism illegal.
Excellently told with so much detail and research, well done, looking forward to more of the same 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@darkpast089 look on Hans Staden filme en tupi antigo.A German sold in the 15 hundreds to a brasilian canibal tribe.A shocking real story in the language of this tribe.I never saw a more crazy film. enjoy
yep payback is a bitch ,to think how many natives were killed by british sailors and men, in australia alone and then when its was settled then all natives were treated worse than the african americans even to this day in 2023?
chomp chomp chomp chomp
@@darkpast089generally speaking they also took weapons / gun powder to fight other tribes. It wasn't all "fight the colonisers".
Maori loved fighting, infact they still do... they go 0 to 100 over a wrong glance. The bash.
Watch "Once Were Warriors", that film has classy well spoken and civilised individuals compared to now.
Yikes. What was he thinking; torturing a Chief's son?
Killing them was enough. Eating them is disgusting and foul. Some cultures really are more uncivilized than others.
@@Steve992.1 get ur steve ass outta here
He didn’t treat him any different than he would have treated any other member of the crew that might have acted the same way.
@@Steve992.1 True!
@steve morro when dealing with palefaced savages...you earn respect through SL@UGHTER. Those cowardly europeons thought TWICE from then on. good job, Maru...
Very interesting and informative piece of history.
Never heard this story before
The lesson here: Don't whip people, they might eat you, and turn you into shit...
YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT!
luvya bro
don't be fooled by last name. Adopted
They were shit to begin with
Kei te pai
Very well told. I always find the Maori stories and history interesting. My cousins are from Waitara. Taranaki Maori/Irish. Very proud of both races. I always wanted to visit New Zealand but I have always been so poor. My mum and dad went there and got a great welcome from the family and local Māori.
I hope you can make it to nz one day, we will welcome you with open arms.
One of my earlier patriarchal forebears straight from Scotland married a local girl whose descendants are now quite numerous in the Matata area of the North Island, but they are hard guys who are allegedly not welcome to visit the regional main city of Hamilton. Turning up to make myself known to them, with the same family surname, would be interesting to do. Hopefully they would be welcoming, but maybe not..?? Not sure what might be the outcome . .
I live in tarainki and it's bad place hole county iv allways wanted to leave nz but to poor I'm really warred about everyones safety and I can't say why having kids😢
In 1986, Halleys Comet returned. This was poorly visible from the northern hemisphere, so it was a great excuse to visit New Zealand. My first wife and I spent ten days divided between the two islands and then ten days in Australia. Great trip. Little did I know at that time my wife would run off with another man, and I would end up meeting and marrying a woman who was born and raised in AU. While I've never returned to NZ, we have visited AU on four occasions. Her brother, Denis, was once a speach writer for Malcomb Fraiser, the former PM of Australia.
I've never bought a new car in my life...would much rather spend my money on traveling. New motorcycles? Well, that's another story. BHE
@@demonsmasheroni7354 i completely understand that . . the country has changed remarkably since 2020 . . the lockdowns seemed to alter the personalities of the younger ones . . now the 14 to 17 year olds are utterly lawless . . stolen car ram raids EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK . . we are no longer safe here, and the Police don't seem to do much about it.. these criminals if caught just get home detention or diversion, even after hacking peoples' fingers off with machetes and sledging them with hammers.:(
This was great! Never heard of this event before, amazing turn of events
getting eaten and dismembered because of one guys mistake , yeah amazing
@@6uiti many people dying for one persons mistake is something that is all too common.
Never heard of this event before?
Not surprising since Iwi generally deny all knowledge of cannibalism.
Part of their history that they take pains not to make a meal of. 🤫
I just don't understand why the crew didn't declare their white privilege and demand their freedom from the cannibals
@@777zebo that would have made them appear even more delicious than ever..!
Interesting story, something from the past you don't hear about today. Kudos to the reporters!
@richardbetancourt7412.
Are you French ?
If so, I recommande you this book from Francois Garde « Ce qu’il advint du sauvage blanc ».
Real story.😬
My father fought in WW2. He spent 6 months in Australia before he was sent to New Guinea. He never spoke about his time in the war until I was in high school. He had shared stories with my brothers, but not with me. He once said that he lost more of his men to cannibals than he did to the Japanese! I heard him telling my brothers and his nephews that the men from the tribes would sneak into the American encampment at night----and abduct soldiers who went to the latrine or were sleeping. Sometimes 6 weeks to a few months later, the missing soldiers' dog tags would turn up, secured to a tent post or hung by the latrines for others to find. One soldier shot himself in the foot after one of his friends disappeared, and this soldier was ready to do anything to escape the island. My father was a SGT, and he took the loss of his men very hard. He came back from WW2 with malaria, dengue fever and jungle rot----he coped with these ailments, but he never forgot the men who were brutally tortured and killed----and then eaten.
Incredible story. By the 1930s New Guinea tribes that practiced cannibalism had already stopped mainly due to the pressure of the Australian colonial government, this was particularly true in the coasts and islands not so however for the inland and highland areas of New Guinea where certain groups maintained their cannibalism well into the 70s
@@LamatoPaqali-gc4gq My father used to go to his Battery H reunions every September. When I was an adult he told me that the men all said they were scarred emotionally from their friends being taken and eaten by the cannibals. My father used to have horrible dreams when he was suffering from bouts of the dengue fever. He would relive his time in New Guinea, and the neighbors complained about his screaming----until my oldest brother told them why my father was yelling. Today, no one can envision going to fight a war and having to battle cannibals for your very survival. Thank you for your comments in your post. Appreciate it.
@@LamatoPaqali-gc4gqI just recently visit New Guinea 2022 and I will tell you this they give me the impression they still eat human flesh
If cannibals ate my friends, they might accidentally catch a mortar.
Wow. Quite a interesting story to read ❤
Two cannibals had caught and cooked up a clown. As they were sitting on a log eating part of the clown, one cannibal said to the other "Does this meat taste funny to you?"
Why so serious?😂
The other replied 'no, but it sure gives me gas!' 😊
Who's the clown.. oops
🤣
One cannibal found another cannibal spewing his ringer. He asks, 'What is wrong my friend?' The other replied, 'Oh man, it's so hard bringing up a family these days!'
Although I am little familiar To the experience of story tellers, i found myself attracted to listeniing to this story because of the way it is delivered. Thank you.
Man, for brand new channel you're really cooking right now great story keep it up
Thank you so much for the kind words :)
What did he cook? A eurocentric viewpoint about a culture that is practically alien to him?
My father had a friend, now dead, who was a magistrate in french colony of Africa in 1960.
One of the last cases he tried was a young man from Togo or Benin who had kidnapped a young girl of another ethnicity for human sacrifice…..
1960 is not far away from us.
So be careful.
Eating human flesh in Africa is still reasonably common in several parts of that continent.
@@MichaelTheophilus906 ~ it’s not Islam that instigated both world wars.
That’s another Abrahamic group.
Jeffery Dhamer is a lot closer.
The captain of a Royal Navy ship was judge, jury and almost executioner. He'd usually have his bosun or man at arms to do the real nasty stuff. Any man who crossed a captain was likely to be hurt and maimed. Just look at what a true keel hauling is. So, as others have said, the son of a savage, tribal chief or not, will be treated no worse, if anything, maybe a little better than any other man. Lots of
captains were brutal in the extreme. Some of it was usually out of fear, as if they lost control of 50-70 tough sailors, then it would be the captain who would meet a grim fate.
That may have been true early In the book how the Royal Navy changed the world .A captain in the Royal Navy was only allowed to administer a dozen lashes .If it was a hanging offense. The ship was required to return to England to face an Admiralty court
..you mean served up in the cook's pot??
and by giving the 'ships punishment' to the son of the Maori chief, they totally forgot what the implications would be if that lad ever got back to his home, and reported the incident to his father.
And that is what happened. Whoops.
Just a little cultural 'fox pas'
@@colonelfustercluck486faux pas. But yes, this is what the other side needs to hear. Just because that was the expected behavior of a ship Captain doesn't mean we will accept it. You can treat your own people in such a manner, but not us
@@thomasklimchuk441 Sure they sailed for a year to get in sight of a new country only to have to turn around and sail a year back to England to attend Admiralty court...that sounds plausible
Thus the origin of the old saying, "He gave an arm and a leg.".😅
'And it sure gave me gas!'
Cold shoulder.
Nope....
I was always amazed how Disney let that line in POTC go by about the guy trading spice for that "delicious long pork".
No Australia then. HMS Boyd came from the British colony of NSW which then comprised the whole east coast of Australian (Qld, NSW, Vic). Good story that I was unaware of.
Fascinating and great rundown. I'm a fan of the questionably good cannable-themed horror/comedy 'Ravenous' from 1999. I wonder if the main protagonist's name Boyd in that movie is a reference to this event?
Love that movie
I'm not a fan of horror films but that movie is darn good. All star cast too, including the secondary characters like Neal McDonough.
My first experience of crazy cannibal natives was from Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Men’s Chest 😂. So I never heard of this benevolent cannibalism of the natives that certain people always like to whine about
@@MohamedShou The Moari were colonizers, slavers as well as cannibal like the Aztecs. There's no such thing as benevolent cannibalism and mass punishment for one person's crime is a crime in and of itself.
@@MohamedShou Fijians were well known for it . . also Papua New Guineans . . and the Maori, who had it down to a fine art, including shrinking the leftover heads for keepsakes, and trade and sale of course!
One of the biggest humiliating and belittling acts was to eat the enemy and shit them out taking away their mana (spiritual strength)
Pure superstition and primitive savagery.
And u proud of that?
Europeans had done worse
@@JoeyVega223no they didn't.
@@TRUMPisGODhahaits typical rhetoric lol. Europeans made everything he holds dear
Well done. Not overcooked well done, but done in a pleasing way well done.
Thanks
Sailors may have been over-cooked
English Benedict Over Easy ? ? (the 'full English' breakfast) right?
Wow that's so interesting what is a Maori.???
Well told - This is a recurring theme throughout my experience with people in general. You cant do only one thing - there are always consequences, repercussions, and ramifications. Think carefully about what you do especially when honor is at stake.
To succeed in the world, it is not enough to be stupid, one must also be polite. -Voltaire
whos Honor are you thinking about , it sounded more like revenge to me on everyones part , more so the wailers , there were never even effected at all by the early actions .
@@ianclews8556 The wailers? What's it got to do with Bob Marley?
@@ianclews8556 you must be non sentient if you think nobody else was affected other than those 70 sailors who were butchered and eaten by savages
We'll find out one day that we are responsible for every single action, word, and even thought, over all the days of our lives here. Scary thought . . ! : )
Great upload. Only one thing to add. You mentioned that the Māori took the muskets as they were at war with British colonists.
Untrue: Iwi in the Northland were beginning to use this new technology against each other with the only European involvement being the procurement of arms.
The first actual engagement with British troops didn't occur until 1845.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the correction, I guess it tracks with experiences of other recently displaced peoples like in the western United States during the 1800s.
@@darkpast089
So how were Indigenous People using powdered based weapons without a prior conflict with Europeans?
There is such a Push for the narrative of "look they were having social conflict before we came and brought Genocide". It's a colonial syndrome of sorts.
So you are correct in your video.
-COMANCHE NATION
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 Maori were willing traders. They were also willing warmongers, who needed the slightest excuse to go to war with any other tribe that was probably weaker & and defeat/assimilate (by slavery &/or devouring them usually).
This incident occurred in the period European encounters were often via sealing gangs hunting seal skins (pre whaling) and it was common practice to put a sealing gang ashore, head North & purchase a cargo of timber spars or flax fibre to take to Sydney (Port Jackson), then return & pick up the sealers & their skins. The trading with Maori for spars and food (Maori rapidly exploited this opportunity) was often for muskets. Tribes trading successfully could get muskets, then go visit the problem neighbours who had been giving them a hard time and demonstrate the advantage of muskets vs spears (just as Arab traders did in Africa in the mid-late 1800s).
So shifting the narrative to anti-colonialism is in error. The Whangaroa tribes were at the learning stage, as few trading vessels had visited, and so were not fully familiar with firearms (hence blowing themselves up). Soon afterwards many tribes became desperate for trading opportunities, as to survive they needed muskets. Learn the deeds of Hongi Hika, a chief from a little further down the coast who imported enough to massacre everyone who had slighted his ancestors & whose rampage depopulated large areas of the upper North Island. By the time he got south other successful trading tribes were well enough armed to resist effectively. Between about 1810 and 1830 Maori annihilated themselves in a manner they couldn't achieve with spears. And at the end of that period, with greatly increased trading & Whaling, Britain was invited to enter into a treaty, the content & consequences of which is still cause for dispute today.
The evil colonist narrative belongs elsewhere, as does its use to make excuses for personal choices (different from historic injustices).
@@johnmead8437
So what I said is true?
-COMANCHE NATION
@@thechiefwildhorse4651 hey Chief, NZ Maori here. Europeans arrived in the late 1700s chasing whales, then spars from native timber, flax for ropes etc. Tribes in the north of the north island had 1st contact, a trade developed between ship captains and maori chiefs. The price for 1 musket, was one ton of potatoes, or, one ton of dressed flax, or, one tattooed maori head, sold as curios in Sydney, london. What are now known as the "musket wars" took place. A terrible inter tribal war took place over 30 years, 1802-1834 approx. Resulting in total annihilation of some tribes, displacement of many and a death toll conservatively estimated at more than half the population. The arrival of british sovereignty in 1840, "Treaty of Waitangi" was supposed to bring order and laws to maori(natives) and pakeha(non maori, brits, aussies, americans, black or white etc). Instead, it became a tool to disenfranchise maori of our land, traditions, mana(traditional enhancement, power, personal, accrued thru brave selfless lives. A war then developed between individual maori tribes and brit imperial army, then colonial army from. 1845, as the gentleman said, and 1878, 33 years later. We have honoured our ancestors by fighting in court ever since then, the govt has been paying settlements since 1996, and we continue to pursue independant sovereignty over our own affairs and the well being of our people. We continue to make good progress. Arohanui(big love)
I’m Maori from Nz and only heard a little of an iwi/tribe being cannibals but not much stories on it so thank you Great stuff!
Thought it was pronounced MOWRI and not MORI.
I thought my ancestors here in Norway was bad, but shit! Hehehe!
@@jimbo43ohara51 the pronounciation changes year to year,. bit like maori history and culture.....depends on who's listening and how much money they want this time
@@jimbo43ohara51 There's been a hundred different pronunciations over the years from Moddi to Maadi, much of it by the Maries themselves.
@@bobbobbly7900 Yup Labour pronounciation is different to National
Outstanding story. Thank you for sharing this with us.
This would make one heck of a movie for sure.
Wow what a story,could be made into a film
Absolutely!
I'd love to see it
@@joyhall2736 Yes, they're working on it. It's called The Boyd Boy.
@@hoibsh21Kinda reminds me of the Film “The Green Inferno!!”.. 😬😵💫
@@shahenakhatun7978 Ya, kewl flick!
It sort of has been, released this year (2024) and called, 'The Convert' starring Guy Pearce. It shows Maori massacring sailors and taking over the ship but no reference to cannibalising their bodies. It does, however, mention cannabalising another tribe in passing. It's a good movie.
Was this one of the darkest moments in New Zealand's colonial history?
To any Māori, please excuse any pronunciation mistakes with names or places!
This event and also. 1807-1808 Battle of Moremonui (Te Kai A Te Karoro) (The Feast of The Black-Backed Gull) quick story: The First battle in which muskets were used , Ngapuhi Tribe Vs Ngati Whatua Tribes, Ngati Whatua won . Killed so many Ngapuhi that day the Ngati Whatua could not eat and digest all the dead Ngapuhi lay spread on the Ripiro Beach/Moremonui Gully, So much so that the black backed seagulls feasted on the Ngapuhi as a result of abundance, Negligence. Nga Puhi survivors : Hongi Hika(Warchief Musket wars) , Te Ruki Kawiti (Chief of Ruapekapeka) Te Puhi(Chief responsible for the Attack on Boyd ).
They just New Zealand? 🙄
@@chairmybowl835 ohmmagosh! That. Is.Terrifying! Great tidbit, thank you!
All good
@@damienwilloughby mostly yes, cook island Maori speak a different dialect to nz Maori. While they are related clearly, so is Tahiti and most of the other islands across the Pacific to an extent
The Kiapoi massacre in the south island of New Zealand was an atrocious massacre as well and would a great vid for this channel.
Thanks so much for the suggestion, i'll look into it
It's only the very recent ones (mostly since written history kept since European visits) that are well known. The actions behind the numerous skeletal remains with broken legs (& fatal injuries), shellfish shells & nephrite flakes in the Southern mountains would make for grim entertainment. Suggests the treatment of slaves on the Atlantic trade was positively benign.
Must be other places with similar pre-European remains whose origin record seems to have been lost.
Te Rauparaha slit the belly of the Ngai Tahu eel
@@monkeyjackmonkeyjack3779 maori killed maori than the pakeha ever did.
Just dosen't fit the leftwing narrative.
@@jimmurihiku8009humans are humans, the only difference is that the ball heads brought it to industrial level
*Then there was that missionary who was in the trip who got caught. He was cooked and eaten. Months after, another missionary arrived and noticed the indigenous people still struggling to cook a part of the earlier missionary! The indigenous people complained that despite cooking for days on end, this part of the missioner's body was so hard to chew into pieces. The new missionary asked to see which part they'd been cooking for months, and lo and behold, they pulled out a pair of leather boots!!!*
All I know is that Gilligan and his mates got off pretty easy.
That was a very interesting story about HMS Boyd, I remember hearing something about it many years ago, but it was nice to have my memory refreshed. Thank you.
Refresh your memory on the TRUTH! The true history of how Aotearoa was shaped. Ka whawhai tonu matou!!!
I got invited to dinner by some cannibals, and all I got was the cold shoulder 🤔
I bet that was tough. 🤮
SALTED ?
Sailors : " Thankyou for having us..."
Cannibals : " Only a pleasure ! Hope to see more of you...."
I said I didn't like the look on his wife's face, he told me to push it to the side and eat the chips.
Ba Dum Tish!
Dam.....the boy really took revenge in the most brutal way.
Being from the US, I've never heard of this. It's very interesting and if there isn't a movie about this, there should be.
I won't get made the current spin on things is that Maori were nothing but kind to everyone and cannibalism and war never happened here before Europeans
@@thetoecutta5716 Don't be such a drama queen - if that were true there wouldn't be movies like Utu or Once were Warriors etc etc
The Rockefellers grandson was eaten by cannibals
Thats where the Rockafullor Soup came from! With Garlic & Ginger of course!
As a kiwi I share mixed blood Māori included and the new age hybrid supremist Māori sure don't acknowledge this past fact today.
I wouldn't say that we Maori don't acknowledge this past... because we do... Infact, our history isn't shared as much as it should be! The good, the bad, and the ugly regardless we as Maori acknowledge it..... its the colonizers who dont acknowledge the history... in fear of people realising how bad things were and the damage they done.... not just in NZ but all over the world!
@@kishak4378 True that - some Te Iwi Maori ate people or at least parts of people...AND so did many other Cultures all over the world - this ridiculous notion that we are supposed to be horrified/embarrassed/shameful??? at what were standard practices of the day is simply not true. It happened....AND - I agree completely we acknowledge our past, how else can we learn and move forward - well said
Did this story make you hungry?
@@kishak4378 what have the maori contributed to anyone but themselves?
what cultures have the maori championed at all but themselves?
whose history do you go out of the way to share within your own culture that isn't about you?
what would've happened if the roles were reversed?
"butbutbut muhhh colonizerssss ;(;("
Cannibalism in the Caribbean islands coined the term barbecue. The victims were roasted over a fire with green bamboo strips ( barbets -barbiqeuts), thus evolved the word barbecue. Now, enjoy those ribs😁
Also where the word cannibal came from. The Caribs were also called Canibs.
P.s. thanks, I'm currently reading about William Dampier, the authors said bbq came from the Caribbean but didn't explain how. They did however explain that Buccaneer comes from the escaped slaves and indentured servants supported themselves by drying the meat of wild cows and pigs on a wrack called a boucain which they then sold and traded, this was before going to sea became the industry of those men.
Thanks for the knowledge
@@cookdislander4372 YW
Nope. The word came from barbacoa, which was a wooden structure, not the method of cooking. They were used to smoke and cure fish. You could also use a barbacoa for storage, or as a platform to sleep on. When the Spanish adopted it, it took on the meaning of a way to prepare food.
Beef Ribs only, l don't eat pork. ((THE NEW WHITE MEAT 🍖)).
Great history lessons...should do many more similar video,..thanks
A very well produced video- thank you. I particularly liked some of the sea paintings e.g. at 3.46 and would like to know the artists...
That story would make a helluva movie. A horror story for sure.
People make mistakes but sometimes others pay for it
Fyi... Its possibly the main reason my family and ancestors never had our island, Stephenson's Island and our inland land taken off us during colonisation of the British, Verbal history says that over 100 European were killed, i was told as a child 110 were gutted, cooked and eaten by my Tribal elders. 2 were left alive, a woman who ended up mute and assimilated into the people as she was taken as a slave, a concubine, but never bred!! And a child, the only child aboard The Boyd a European boy who was assimilated into our tribe . This was told to me by my grandmother who would be 126 if she was alive today, she said her mother told her this story
How much did you pay for "your" Island?
That's Ke'e beach & the Napali coast/Kalalau in Ha'ena, Kaua'i, Hawa'ii at 3:28. Ha'ena is my hometown!
Really interesting. I had never heard this story before. It reminded me of the story about Alexander Pearce which was a great one too
i like how at the end you put the blame on the captain. The kid was supposed to be doing a job and the captain followed his rules and procedure for keeping order on board his ship. Do you think massacring and cannibalizing the entire crew is justice for whipping one sailor who wasn't obeying orders? Most of the crew would have been flogged at some stage, it was normal
Agreed.
but they needed some dinner
In those days this was what happened to Sailors - it was a hard life didnt matter who youbwere if you could not do the work this was the punishment.
Pretty crazy to see how much the maori have adapted and changed since the 19th century. The haka still sends shivers down my spine though!
The maori are a lovely people, but they definitely had their dark moments in history just like everyone else!
They'd still be eating humans if they weren't under Europeans rule.
@@darkpast089 Yes, killing and eating humans was commonly practised by all nations in the 1800s. The Maori were only doing what everyone else was doing. But it wasn't a "moment", dark or otherwise, but a centuries old tradition. They were adept at keeping their food supplies fresh for as long as possible, knowing which parts to slice off first without the rest of the meat spoiling.
Ahh yes and no
@@darkpast089 fire begets more fire bro
He was framed with the missing food utensils or he was insolent towards the ship captain. The fact that most of the entire crew was massacred shows that the first scenario is more likely.
Fantastic vid bro. You're gonna be huge soon
Just found the channel, love the content. Subscribed.
The picture at 3.17 is nothing like the northern east coast, couldn’t be anymore different to what that area actually looks like
The other Dark Channels brought me here. I am impressed, and giving a sub to this well-done history channel!
Revenge for a brutal naval discipline is one thing. Cannibalism is quite another.
I agree, it certainly leaves a nasty taste in one's mouth.
It's OK they have KFC now! No need to be afraid.
@@broadside1944 The commentator is justifying cannibalism as a proper course of revenge when someone does you perceivably improper or wrong. If you think that's funny then I know a good shrink for ya.
Wow! People eat each other. People do worse than that to one another. At least your nasty old dead body isn’t going to waste. It’s a protein source after all.
the trouble with this theory is that the English and their Australian subjects arrived in New Zealand, at that time run by Maori tribes and their chiefs, not the British or Australia. They had a distinctly different culture from the 'Pakeha" (outsiders, but often explained as the whites). Their customs and culture were entrenched for roughly 800 years at that time. If you attacked or disrespected a Chief or his family, you would expect one hell of a problem. The Maori had a custom known as 'Utu', or revenge or payback........ and they were not half hearted about it. It was just the custom. As for the Pakeha getting hurt feelings for visiting NZ and being subject to the local law or customs, that is a bit self entitled. If they didn't like it, they should never have visited in the first place. That was just the way things rolled back then. You got to look at this thru the lense of the time is occured, and the rules in place in that area, at that time. Usually the relationship between Maori and 'Pakeha' was pretty good and many successful business's, marraiges etc started from these beginnings. However some really nasty incidents did happen, with 'blame' lying on both sides, depending on the incident.
About young Maori men traveling around on sailing ships, that was fairly common. Sometimes as a local guide/translator, sometimes as crew for cross Tasman trips to Australia, sometimes to England. Sometimes on whalers in the early days.
According to John Rutherford, a surviving passenger, Te Ara was 30 years old, not a boy, and was punished for theft.
Oh well if a white guy says it then it must be true
@@2wahineandadog Dismissing someone’s comment due to their race - Who’s the real racist?
@@Joefest99 Awww poor Joe doesn't like having his nonsense pointed out. You dismissed multiple other people's comments as not fitting your narrative. If you can do it then understand it can be done to you too.
@@2wahineandadog I didn’t dismiss anything. But facts are facts. Let’s tell the story like it actually happened, and not lie about it. Don’t you want the ACTUAL story in its entirety, not embellished? 🤷♂️
This was definitely a good story and worth the watch.Well done.Two thumbs up.
This is not what we got told by the locals....
It's important to remember that every time you hear "the duties of ship's boy", we're talking about a bunch of men on a ship for months at a time with no women.
It's disturbing to think about but a lot of history is. The story actually makes a lot more sense when you consider what that boy might have told his father.
Also known as " peg boys" .
pofters that's what i say?
@@7071t6 Sodomy trials were more common on old British Navy ships than murder trials and that's the military.
Shit was way worse on non-military ships and if the captain was in on the "fun", God help anyone onboard who had no rights and couldn't defend themselves. Imagine what went on aboard slave ships (men, women and children).
Also called the "ships cat".
@@carolinerowles5951 This video even says that this ship was transport for convicts for the first part of the voyage. Geezus...
Great story masterfully told! Subscribed
Welcome aboard!
Highly biased for one...
Thanks for the good work friend.
Imagine looking down after a dump and seeing an eye
I remember reading and learning about this in my 4th grade world social studies class.
Where I once worked in California, a Maori came to work there and we became friends. I taught him how to play golf, and we played for years together. ONLY twice, while on an especially isolated portion of the course, did he ever attempt to eat me!
Lucky for me I was a former champion faster runner!
Maori !!!
@@kiwikat8143 Thanx I visited both islands in 1986 and bought a couple of Maori bolo ties, which I still wear.
His name was Lou Uipi, played on an exhibition rugby team and played foreign teams just for entertainment.
He was a great friend, but died suddenly from a heart attack while at work, and was dead before he hit the floor....had just turned 40. One of the toughest funerals I ever attended.
U got lucky I met a guy who was part Maori by consumption....his grandfather was eaten
@@markgritt4876 Times have changed since the biblical Ezekiel.
@BLACK HOLE ENTRY not in New Guinea they havent
Thank you for this piece of history.here is some info for u about the Boyd in a previous trip to Aotearoa the Boyd stopped at kororareka and kiddnaped sevaral Maori women an carried on along the coast.these actions in latter years was cause of many invasion of other tribes along the east coast of the north island.
Great find on that information, the story just gets more horrific doesn't it..
@Dark Past be wary of maori oral traditions, over the years they've been changed and often entirely fabricated in order to justify atrocities against settlers.
Don't think I've ever heard of this one before. Interesting. I had a total of four Commanding Officers at sea during my days. Fortunately, the days of tyrants like the CO of the Boyd are gone. At least, in the USN and likely most other navies worldwide. Might still exist in some navies? Not sure.
I'm fairly sure flogging was only banned in the British navy in 1942
I'm wro g, apparently it's never been abolished, but it has been suspended since 1879
no just the natives..
..the William Blighs and the Captain Queegs . . !
Was USN Capt Queeg just a fictional character? : )
Superb documentary - thank you for this. Definitely subscribed :)
This needs to be made into a feature length theater film.
Excellent work - riveting. Thank you
You’re British Indian aren’t you ?
There’s something very calming about Indian British narrators, makes for great storytelling.
I'm Australian actually, but thank you for the compliment :)
He's a cannibal
There are many Australian accents depending on which state and location you hail from.
I think that he might be South African. with that accent.
@@darkpast089 Most of them speak Bogan.
Great that you are telling the story but the images are just so far off. Tahiti. South Island. Clippers. Brigs not brigantines. Im being pedantic? Yeah nah, you have to be historically & geographically correct mate. BTW I lived in Whangaroa harbour.
i heard somewhere, the last ever British slave was owned by Maoris, some other British ships arrived to do trade and the British slaves begged them to buy them but they didnt
You probably watched that on a Disney movie. Half the reason we had so many British countrymen is that they jumped ship after years on board ships and Te Iwi Maori amalgamated them into the tribe. Hard workers who just wanted to belong somewhere and are willing to cut logs and haul them back to the Kainga together make great neighbours.
good history lesson...thx for posting....I enjoy learning on the internet even if its not a pleasant subject.
The story of the HMS Boyd would make a great horror movie.
A good title could be:
1. "HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR EUROPEAN MEAT?"
2. "MEAT EATERS?"
3. "HMS BOYD - THE LONG PORK EATERS?"
4. "THE MAORI MEAT EATERS."
@ outrageous alan - or : " Boyd ,that was tasty , any Maori left?"
Those are shit names 😂
'Over-easy' please . . !
5. "PLEASED TO MEAT CHEW!"
I regret watching this at 4:00 in the morning. I commend this video for successfully scaring me.
Māori are far more likely to aggressively feed you than eat you nowadays. Very hospitable people.
Loved it and well delivered.
Much appreciated
Hell yeah! Found another dark history channel.
Welcome aboard!
The captain DID show restraint for that time in history. He didn't have the kid thrown overboard or killed. This is a wonderful example of how our current culture shapes our opinions. Confirmation bias is a bitch. Other than that, great vid.
This is just a story "retold an no doubt changed over the years"
Whipping=cannabilising 60 people. Ok, makes sense.
Yeah seems fair.
@@CoinManKak "if we wins we gets to eats it"
@@codychickadee5095 They usually only cannibalized the leader of the other "war parties" or "tribes" whatever they happened to be fighting at the time. They probably didn't eat everyone and if they did it's kinda a normal old barbaric thing native people do.
@@CoinManKak free scran why not
That kid is the equivalent of modern day millennials
A very interesting historical video. It is so interesting how one act can perpetuate a cycle of violence and death. Tragic.
Some cannibals were given the cold shoulder.
Thought this was a new DARK series! Just a new viewer here. DARK tech or DARK seas or DARK docs was the other channel I was referring to!
unfortunately it still happens to this day!!!!!
Well Done! Enjoyed the video.
Thank goodness we now have Kentucky fried chicken in New Zealand
Only learned about this today. Good to see new video on the topic. Awful events.
I had no idea there had ever been cannibals in New Zealand. I knew they were in Papua and Fiji.
And Australia
And Solomon Islands not that long ago
Wow… I guess the past can really be terribly DARK !!!! ☠️
I have heard the cabin boy on the Boyd felt sorry for the Chiefs son chained up. Snuck him food and water. For this act his life was spared. So try be kind to others it might help you down the road.
Yes be kind to others as it might create an advantage for you in the future, like not getting eaten by cannibals, what a wonderful ethos!
@@melvert33
it's an excellent methapor though and on point. Kindness doesn't come naturally to everyone. But if people sense a possible advantage in not treating others like crap, everybody wins.
Yes the chiefs son apparently saved him just before he was about to be killed.
That is part of the version I know as well - do no harm and no harm will come to you.
Why isn’t this “Boyd Massacre” spoken of more? This is a phenomenally tragic story to speak of
because stuff like this happened frequently throughout history, why would this be so important?
@@diegoaespitia this is Hollywood material. Don’t know how a movie isn’t out based upon it?
@Truth Reigns Forever i agree but itd prob be rub people the wrong way. especially any Maori people now, portraying them as savage cannibals. truth or not
@@diegoaespitia you’re right, there are other stories or true stories that Hollywood could produce a movie by? No need to embarrass or cause discomfort to Māori people today.
You could read up on the history of the Chatham Islands . Inhabited by the Moriori and ethnically cleansed by incoming Maori during the 1830s. About 95% of the Moriori were murdered or enslaved.
Everyone should listen to David Barton’s lecture on Columbus.
The story about his encounter with cannibals is incredible!!!!
The eating of enemies was not for food but the final insult to the defeated. Basically, by eating them, they are turning them into shit.
So basically, Cannibals eating a Can o' balls. gotcha.
I thoroughly enjoyed your storytelling. Whether entirely factual or comprised of fragments and embellishments, I genuinely appreciate the experience and the opportunity to have encountered it.
Not Story telling. History. These accounts are well documented.
@@smartypants5036and white man used fraudulent documentation to steal land and those accounts are documented and some not all of the land has been given back.
I appreciate your considered approach to this reporting. NZ is full of interesting stories, although most Countries are I guess. But it always best to do as you have done and if you aren't sure of all the facts to accept it is a version of a story compiled to interest an audience.
@@smartypants5036 I agree that there are multiple versions of this story - however this one was a bit too "Disney" to be real
As a student of cannibalism (which was much more widespread than we are generally told) I thank you for this valuable video.
Quite common throughout Native American people as well.
Even though some people might find this hard to swallow.
And as a student of cannabilism how good of a teacher is it?
@@mikeansley5306 Tasty
Is human meat classed as organic? Just out of interest
They should make a movie out of this story...
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing such neglected parts of history!
Michael Rockefeller 1961 New Guinea
❤ really like your comment on that I think I feel that that is true to I think that we are all cannibals in some way as well