Thanks for being so honest. You could have edited out your mistakes and made it look too easy. You help so much by showing what you did wrong (wheels too tight) and then explain what to do to correct it. Make it over and take your time. Patience is a virtue. Nice job on making the bead roller dies. You show it's not easy, but possible.
Honestly showing how not to do it is a great lesson to anyone thinking about cutting up a classic piece of ironwork . Go watch Carl Fisher at "make it kustom and learn something from a true professional
You are a great teacher you are humble enough to admit you mistakes then explain what you did wrong I have learned a lot from you already using some of your techniques on my 67 ford highboy project so many time in the past I would mess up and just say it's good enough for who it's for not anymore I'll throw it in the drop bin and start over until it is right . And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks lol. Keep it up young man and I'm going to continue watching and learning.
Amazing. The greatest lessons here are patience, forgiveness, and perseverance. Inspiring. We all have had a bad day in the workshop/garage, but you can't move forward if you let it get to you. Well done. Another amazing video/tutorial. Go Jap Hands! Keep moving forward! Just got my merch! Thank you!
Kudos! Most people wouldn’t start. The majority of those who start, won’t persist! And of those who persist, and publish their struggles on UA-cam, only a fraction would dare to show “The real struggle” and even fewer would dare to put out an almost hour long video. Thank you! Love it. Kudos again!
Well Karl, I must admit that it is very refreshing to watch you work. Too many videos out there where people are fabricating things like you are doing but they don't show any of their mistakes and that gives a kind of false sense of accomplishment. Your way of doing things looks much more real world and you are showing that mistakes can indeed be made and you just have to work thru them. Keep up the great videos sir!
Thank you for your honesty. Experience is often times the best teacher. Your wide range of skills, combined with a desire to learn and willingness to put in the extra work is a winning combination.
just the best karl a lesson in patience and skill, man if your in kindergarden then i am way back in the womb just love these video's they truly show how to overcome problems good stuff , real quality canadian content
It turned pretty awesome after few "practice" panels. I think some bodyshops would have used the earlier versions, shoveled some bondo all over it call it done, but its cool to see someone working with a high patience and high personal standards for the quality of the results. And it was an educational video again, keep up the good work!
Thanks for showing us how to do things the old school way. Some of us have to do things old school cause of finances. Thanks for giving people knowledge that everyone can utilize. You Rock!!!
I took some lessons from Peter Tomasini, here in Melbourne. If I remember correctly, I over stretched a door skin, rather then starting again he mentioned to release the tension that the unrolled edges are putting into the crown. i.e. by stretching the outside edges (i.e. the areas that weren't rolled) , it can help drop some of the crown. Another thing i saw him do, was to re-roll with very, very light tension on the wheel, he reduce the up and down rocking motion and the panel lost a lot of its crown. He said you can always fix the mistakes - rarely does he start again. Another thing if I can suggest ..... I have the same Cheapo Wheel and they can do a good job for the money , however they flex a lot. I used some 10cm x 50 cm square tube as a reinforcing piece that runs around the outside and doubles up the frame. It has significantly improved stiffness and given me much more control
Seems you never really have a bad day. Eventhough you had to through a bunch of materal, you managed to deliver - both a quality quarter panel and valuable content. My mood gets instantly better by wacthing your vids.
What ! you are human after all ! lol . Polishing the wheels really has made a difference on the panel , almost mirrorlike . Starting over on a new piece of material rather than trying to save a piece is a smart way to go . Thanks again Karl .
Also oddly it gives me more confidence to jump into stuff I don’t think I can do when I see you doing what is hard for you. Thank you for being humble enough to fumble for us.
Carl I think I can help, I went to panel class every week for ten yrs,taught by 80yr old pro, always cut your panel 4 to six inches bigger all the way around and wheel right to the edge ,otherwise stopping short causes the wavy edge ,always wheel in one direction ,never cris cross ,old tutor used to feed skin though rollers turn into a cylinder and then reverse that till flat again,that's handy if you overdo the wheeling ,then trim to finished size. To get the profile for making bead roller oil original panel both sides mix up a fist full.of bog place on original both sides that gives profile to copy ,when you go to put in bead trim edge of panel to curve you want on top edge ,and use a tail stock on the roller to hold edge against and it will follow its not possible to do freehand without waves. I have learnt heaps from your channel,I also have a 59 caddy under resto ,keep up.the great work..
Thank you very much for taking the time to share all this info! It’s interesting to me that some people swear by single direction wheeling. I’ve heard it multiple times so I’ll definitely be giving it a try but so many other guys talk about cross wheeling as well! Thanks again for all the info!
Karl, your wealth of knowledge is absolutely fantastic. It is only second to your unlimited kindness of sharing it with all of us here, thank you so much. And yes, I did close my eyes when you were tacking the wire buck together!!!!
As a retired auto body instructor I must say you are an excellent teacher. A person can be the best tradesperson and suck at teaching. You happen to be excellent at metal work and fabrication and have a natural ability to explain difficult concepts. Thanks for the informative videos. I learn from all of your videos...
quite often we can learn more from your mistakes--so don't worry if you keep making them!!! My theory is that we should learn something new every day, and the day we don't learn is the last day. Keep up the great movies, entertaining and very educational, as even for some of the panel beaters out there need a bit of help. I have seen so many bodged jobs its great to watch you at work. Thanks
It is VERY easy to over stretch a panel, I was making a panel for the roof of my 33 Chevy 5 window. I divided the panel into 2 inch squares. This lets you roll in a systematic way to keep the panel in a smooth curve. You can still put your CLOUD lines in and adjust more curve on one side but the squares keep you from just going nuts in one area. I found I needed to check it against the buck, or in my case I could lay it right on the car AFTER EACH PASS to make sure I was going in the right amount - it takes much less rolling than you think. I have also found it better to start with the large area curve first and then move into the center, this allowed me to watch the center come up instead of chasing the a center that starts out too high. NO expert but it worked for me. Like your channel and the way you work thru things. Thanks
Wonderful instruction. I was however surprised to see you put the panel on the shop floor a few times without cleaning it off afterward. Watching mistakes and making mistakes is the best teacher. Your viewers learn so much more when things aren't perfect.
I love your work you always get there with great patience. Geoff Moss is one of the best on an English wheel. There are several videos of him wheeling well worth a look. However if you want to come to the UK the take one of his courses for a week you will be amazed what you learn by the end of the first day you will be able to make a dish. But on the second day you have to turn it back into a flat sheet. These are the tricks you need to make that door skin and you could have saved your first panel. Watching the video you appear to use far too much pressure and shoud use a combination of long and short strokes that overlap to get flowing curvers. I spent a week with him and learnt more in that week than I have over the years working on cars. Great work making the roller dies. Good luck with the project. I am learning off you all the time. Hugh
Thank you so much for your honesty, so many times people only show a finished product , look what I made, but they don't show the pile of scrap they created, and with the cost of metal now mistakes are Expensive.
Invision Prototypes is another great channel. I think he’s a BC guy as well. Nick does a good job explaining what he’s trying to accomplish on the wheel.
Yes! I have been watching Nick for a minute and that dude rocks on fab! A completely hand built 1940 ford body built onto a modern chassis? Sure, no problem... I'll even build a '40 pickup off the same wire buck while I'm at it. Humble guy too. 🤯
Another awesome video. I don't have an English Wheel and will most likely never have one, but have always been interested in this art form. I've watched a lot of your videos in the last year and you not only know how to create masterpieces, but you really know how to share your passion and that's what makes me keep coming back. Keep up the awesomeness.
As many others have said, it's great to see the mistakes. Those of us without your skillset can easily get frustrated and give up. To see a guy like you continue to try until you get it right is inspiring. I have a very good friend who does incredible work and I can't count the number of pieces I've seen him throw away over the years. Like you, he just keeps plugging away until it's right. His favorite comment when asked if he can build something is, "I don't know, I've never tried."
Great work man. Patience is a virtue. If you dont struggle you dont learn. If you dont learn you'll always struggle. Beautiful work. Respect🙏 from Nova Scotia.
I'm a welder and fabricator in steel, mostly plate and solid stock, but I've watched "sheet metal workers" do their work for better than fifty years, and I really enjoy your "learning curve", your determination to get it exactly right, and willingness to toss the pieces as unsatisfactory. I began in the late sixties, and it's good to see the same sort of workmanship and craft, continuing today. Thanks for showing, warts and all. I don't know if it's pertinent in your shop, but I would probably have made two form cutters out of some O-1 stock, to form the two rollers initially, and of course, bringing to final finish as you have. I certainly can't gainsay the outcome though, the rollers work very well. I've certainly learned a lot about moving the thin metal, Thanks for showing this.
Really excellent video - appreciate watching sombody else "ruin metal'' 😀 . Seriously, this is exactly what me and I'm sure most of your viewers experience on a regular basis. You taught me a lot by watching your approach and by sharing your thought process especially when things go sideways. Thanks Karl 👍
It is good to see you admit when you screw up. We all screw up at times but it is better when you know and admit that is when you learn the most. I did a course with Lazze down in Pleasanton a few years ago he made it look so easy but even he said he is always learning
Patience and determination love it. Not sure if any one has already mentioned this. But you may be able to run a sheet through a metal sheet roller, both ways, if you have one, to take a bit of the stress out and also put a slight bit of shape into it. I’ve tried this on my wagon tailgate skin bottom half, which I am in the process of replacing with 2 opposing curves, if that makes sense, after seeing somebody on UA-cam do it and it certainly helped on the edges. I made it oversize to make sure that the edges had some form, I’ve had a few goes tooo 😂👍
Hi Karl first time I've written. I've been restoring an old MGA 1500 '59. I've been at it for a few years now building up my workshop; TIG, MIG, Oxy Acet, English Wheel, Bead Roller etc.. I decided to try making a complete front shroud 2' 6" ish to replace a rusty horrible section. It's been such an learning curve reflected so much in your video. I'm a Wray Shelin Ron Covell, Trev's blog addict. It's taken me 2 months to make 4 panels to be welded together but used every discipline, area shape patterns. cardboard shape patterns, beading edges. I bought a Wray Shelin shrinking disc which has proved invaluable. Thanks for your input especially in bead rolling.
I think we would all like to see the shrinking disc applied to the last pane, and see how it can correct to much crown. Nice lathe work by the way. Trying to find a tradesperson today that can work X and Y together. If it's not CAD it can't be done. 👍
Karl, thank you for doing honest videos that show your successes and those times it was not so successful. I think we can all learn something when it doesn’t go as you planned and redo it. Your positive and humble attitude are just awesome!
Fantastic job. Good to see someone actually explain the learning process. Just a tip, maybe use a fence to help keep the body line bead roll smooth and on point. Cheers from Oz
Good job Karl what I like is you don't give up . I know this is going to be over the top when all your panels are made and fitted. And it will be like your truck a one of a kind piece of art. Your friend from Louisiana Rick 427
As a perfectionist I have to give the gold star for going through that process in front of the camera. You did fantastic keeping it cool learning through making mistakes, that or good editing, Lol. Either way the panel looks excellent. By the way I was surprised, you definitely need a Contour gauge for doing what you do, pretty sure it is a must have tool for repeating and making virtually any shape. Another great one 👍… Thanks.
I had the opportunity to watch Peter Tommasini Wheel a panel and he demonstrated that you can take crown out of a panel by reducing the pressure to nothing and pulling up against the top flat anvil. Amazing fellow with 40+ years experience in metalshaping. I was surprised at how little tension he used and did more with how he pulled the metal out of the wheel. Pulling down against the bottom wheel increased crown, pulling up against the top wheel reduced crown. The way it was explained to me, pushing flat through the wheel with pressure is like hammer on dolly, using no pressure and rolling up is like hammer off dolly.
That top bead roll wobble came from the dies… I love the idea 💡 just weren’t centred properly in the lathe 48:26 to 48:57 you can see the dies aren’t rotating concentricly……still love your work man
Even without editing you make it look easy! I’m loving watching you learn what to do it will help me when I start. Sure made it look easy to make the dies 😡
So fun to watch you learn. Your humility makes your videos so valuable. Just about have all my parts gathered to build my wheel. Can’t wait to go through the same learning process. Thank you for the education!
I think now that you have all the content for repair in different situations, i think was nice you showing projects from the beginning until the end, congrats for the Chanel
It's amazing to watch you work and learn at the same time. A lot of times it's a professional who just does the job in one go and that's impressive but you don't really learn anything because there was never a mistake made and you didn't get a chance to see how they had to fix it. I really appreciate you taking us along for this journey.
Wray , Covell and Lazze are artists when it comes to sheet metal … I appreciate you sharing your work its much easier to relate too ... I want to get one of you planishing hammers ... saving up for it now
The English Wheel is still a baffling tool to me but these videos are slowly building me up to try it. Definitely fascinating. I guess I will never know until I try........ Thanks for sharing your knowledge - absolutely amazing stuff.
Seen your show for the first time a few weeks ago. Must have been older shows . This show you seem to have much more equipment. Good for you , glad to see that . Good luck in the future.
Great work. As others have probably told you, the is an attachment for lathes where you make a metal template and a pointer runs along it as you move the dials. There is also a hydraulic version. Called a " copy lathe attachment " (of course) Old school ,but great to use.
I love the working through the problem and developing a skill even though you had to take a few cracks at it. Such a relief from the best of the best do everything right the first time videos out there.
This is why I like your videos, you take the time to explain everything and the why. I wish I could find a channel that did auto upholstery the same way you do metal work.
Awesome work and it was really great seeing you fight through the issues. Too many channels just show the final result which is fine but seeing your struggles and how you worked through them is truly inspirational.
Karl you always teach in an entertaining way. I love your videos, you very seldom make anything im not sitting on my seat edge for lol. I dont know how you do it, you have your projects gapped and you always seem to still move along so fast. My projects I go nuts on, burn out, then I lose interest for a while. I wish I was a little closer id love to learn from you Sir!
Agree with the rest, this was fun to watch! I appreciate you showing us the struggle, even a bad ass with a shop full of proper tools has to scrap a panel or two. Now I guess I need to go chop out my b pillar and try again, thanks Karl and Kristina!
A good presentation on how to succeed! Thanks for all of the informative videos that you share here. You must have had a few amazing teachers along the way, because you are talented as a metal worker, as well as, a trainer. I appreciate you. Thanks again Carl.
The mistakes are just as important to see as the successes since us viewers are going to meet the same challenges and have to figure out how to fix them too! Great work- keep it up!
Awesome work man! You're a fast learner! You can always push out the edges a little more to release some of the crown, but it's oftentimes better to just start with a fresh piece because the last one is typically somewhat work hardened. I learned the value of lighter pressure and "wash" passes after a number of frustrating "over cooked" sheets myself 😆
Low crowns are really hard on the English wheel, its hard to not let the panel bend over the wheel then you cant really bend it back. You got the right idea keeping it supported, the frame will do a better job than a second person. Edit* also stagger you finish spot, finish past the line, then on, then short, you will get less of a "bump" at the transitions. After masking where you want your bead roll, trim your panel to a even distance from the bead roll and use a bump stop when you bead roll it.
This type of work can be enough to give diarrheoa the sh#ts at times but with resiliance , a willing to try (and also watch others), along with heaps of material it can be done. I built a "bucket" style roadster from a cowl and grille shell...... it fought me the whole way but with persistance and help from people willing to share skills I got there....along with a trash can full of failures and a little filler, I'm still far from good at this stuff but enjoy the challenge. thanks for sharing Karl, good to see you working it out
Another excellent video! I think I subscribed after watching just one of your videos. I was immediately drawn to your analytic descriptions of your thought process.
Well it's a learning curve and you really do state you and us are all on the journey together . It really is a slow process so it's great if you got patience if not you soon will have a serious understanding on the values of . Great advice on the wire buck taking the time to bend the wires not tension them in to a shape that's going to spring as soon as you weld it . Great seeing a bit of freehand lathe work . Next step is the otherside which will be hopefully done in 1 . Great content as always thanks Karl
Nice to see you didn't hide your failures. Honest work includes mistakes. Unfortunately with the price of steel a screwed up panel is a friggen mortgage payment now
I'm sure you have heard the old welders joke, An apprentice was paired up with a journeyman pipefitter, every time the welder was going to strike an arc he said "watch it" . After a mornings work they took a coffee break and when done went back to the pipe, the welder put his hood on, picked up his torch and said watch it, the apprentice shot back "you watch it, my eyes hurt."
Great job Karl. You give me some hope I might be able to have a go at my boot skin. The support table also seemed to work well. I don't think I've haven't seen any of the big players show how to control the final arrangement of low crown panels, so clamps are not required. I'll keep looking. Remember Wray's catch phrase : Metal is Clay
Thanks for being so honest. You could have edited out your mistakes and made it look too easy. You help so much by showing what you did wrong (wheels too tight) and then explain what to do to correct it. Make it over and take your time. Patience is a virtue. Nice job on making the bead roller dies. You show it's not easy, but possible.
Well stated. I thought the same thing. It’s refreshing to see someone being honest on the work and effort it takes.
So glad you guys love watching and learning from my struggles. That’s why we show it all. Hoping it helps explain the process! Thanks kieth 🙏🙏🙏👊👊👊
Honestly showing how not to do it is a great lesson to anyone thinking about cutting up a classic piece of ironwork .
Go watch Carl Fisher at "make it kustom and learn something from a true professional
You are a great teacher you are humble enough to admit you mistakes then explain what you did wrong I have learned a lot from you already using some of your techniques on my 67 ford highboy project so many time in the past I would mess up and just say it's good enough for who it's for not anymore I'll throw it in the drop bin and start over until it is right . And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks lol. Keep it up young man and I'm going to continue watching and learning.
Amazing. The greatest lessons here are patience, forgiveness, and perseverance. Inspiring. We all have had a bad day in the workshop/garage, but you can't move forward if you let it get to you. Well done. Another amazing video/tutorial. Go Jap Hands! Keep moving forward! Just got my merch! Thank you!
Right on thanks for your support!!!
Your attitude of calm determination is inspiring. Your standard was high on this one and you nailed it. Thanks.
Thanks Joe!!!
A WINNER NEVER QUITS and QUITTER NEVER WINS !!! GREAT JOB Karl 👍 LIVE and LEARN🙏
Thanks Bill!
@@MakeItKustom MY PLEASURE Karl🙏
nice to see someone using the english wheel instead of force fitting a panel on, then using a ton of filler. true craftsmanship.
Kudos!
Most people wouldn’t start.
The majority of those who start, won’t persist!
And of those who persist, and publish their struggles on UA-cam, only a fraction would dare to show “The real struggle” and even fewer would dare to put out an almost hour long video. Thank you! Love it. Kudos again!
Thank you being so straight up with us, showing that you are human. Thank you for being REAL
Well Karl, I must admit that it is very refreshing to watch you work. Too many videos out there where people are fabricating things like you are doing but they don't show any of their mistakes and that gives a kind of false sense of accomplishment. Your way of doing things looks much more real world and you are showing that mistakes can indeed be made and you just have to work thru them. Keep up the great videos sir!
It doesn't get any better than this, a true craftsman and FANTASTIC teacher. Have a new 55 inch TV in my garage and coffee. I have arrived.
Nice ! Haha I need one in the shop set up.
Thank you for your honesty. Experience is often times the best teacher. Your wide range of skills, combined with a desire to learn and willingness to put in the extra work is a winning combination.
just the best karl a lesson in patience and skill, man if your in kindergarden then i am way back in the womb just love these video's they truly show how to overcome problems good stuff , real quality canadian content
Hahaha thanks man I appreciate you 👊🙏👊👊
It turned pretty awesome after few "practice" panels. I think some bodyshops would have used the earlier versions, shoveled some bondo all over it call it done, but its cool to see someone working with a high patience and high personal standards for the quality of the results. And it was an educational video again, keep up the good work!
Thanks man !!
Thanks for showing us how to do things the old school way. Some of us have to do things old school cause of finances. Thanks for giving people knowledge that everyone can utilize. You Rock!!!
You’re welcome Jason thanks for watching and thanks for your support!
Awesome to watch. Thanks for turning me onto Wray, I've been blasting through his channel and really digging it. Metal is clay!
I took some lessons from Peter Tomasini, here in Melbourne.
If I remember correctly, I over stretched a door skin, rather then starting again he mentioned to release the tension that the unrolled edges are putting into the crown. i.e. by stretching the outside edges (i.e. the areas that weren't rolled) , it can help drop some of the crown.
Another thing i saw him do, was to re-roll with very, very light tension on the wheel, he reduce the up and down rocking motion and the panel lost a lot of its crown. He said you can always fix the mistakes - rarely does he start again.
Another thing if I can suggest .....
I have the same Cheapo Wheel and they can do a good job for the money , however they flex a lot.
I used some 10cm x 50 cm square tube as a reinforcing piece that runs around the outside and doubles up the frame. It has significantly improved stiffness and given me much more control
Respect your honesty, that you don’t hide your mistakes and are willing to share what you’ve learned! 👍👍🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🤘🏻🤘🏻
Karl your skill level is getting better because of your perseverance to get it as perfect as you possibly can. Keep on rolling!
Lazze has a great video demonstrating this very topic.
Seems you never really have a bad day. Eventhough you had to through a bunch of materal, you managed to deliver - both a quality quarter panel and valuable content. My mood gets instantly better by wacthing your vids.
What ! you are human after all ! lol . Polishing the wheels really has made a difference on the panel , almost mirrorlike . Starting over on a new piece of material rather than trying to save a piece is a smart way to go . Thanks again Karl .
Thanks mike!!
Also oddly it gives me more confidence to jump into stuff I don’t think I can do when I see you doing what is hard for you. Thank you for being humble enough to fumble for us.
Welcome James! I say go for it the worst thing that can happen is you make a little scrap LOL
Well, this was certainly what I'd call a textbook lesson in patience and persistence! Looking good Karl! Thanks!
Carl I think I can help, I went to panel class every week for ten yrs,taught by 80yr old pro, always cut your panel 4 to six inches bigger all the way around and wheel right to the edge ,otherwise stopping short causes the wavy edge ,always wheel in one direction ,never cris cross ,old tutor used to feed skin though rollers turn into a cylinder and then reverse that till flat again,that's handy if you overdo the wheeling ,then trim to finished size. To get the profile for making bead roller oil original panel both sides mix up a fist full.of bog place on original both sides that gives profile to copy ,when you go to put in bead trim edge of panel to curve you want on top edge ,and use a tail stock on the roller to hold edge against and it will follow its not possible to do freehand without waves. I have learnt heaps from your channel,I also have a 59 caddy under resto ,keep up.the great work..
Thank you very much for taking the time to share all this info! It’s interesting to me that some people swear by single direction wheeling. I’ve heard it multiple times so I’ll definitely be giving it a try but so many other guys talk about cross wheeling as well! Thanks again for all the info!
“Make sure you close your eyes” haha gold. I’ve done that more than once👍
I really enjoyed watching you teach an alarm at the same time a true inspiration young man
The Zephyr is my favorite content.
More please. Making your own dies... Great!
Will do!
Those dies worked well to and you will have them forever more now ready for the next one
Karl, your wealth of knowledge is absolutely fantastic. It is only second to your unlimited kindness of sharing it with all of us here, thank you so much. And yes, I did close my eyes when you were tacking the wire buck together!!!!
Ha ha ha ha! I knew a guy who is convinced that he couldn’t watch welding on TV because it would burn his eyes
@@MakeItKustom 😄😄
Nice work. I would have thrown that panel across the room by #2. The die creation was a great idea. Can’t wait to see the trunk and roof
Ha ha those are definitely going to be a big challenge
As a retired auto body instructor I must say you are an excellent teacher. A person can be the best tradesperson and suck at teaching. You happen to be excellent at metal work and fabrication and have a natural ability to explain difficult concepts. Thanks for the informative videos. I learn from all of your videos...
Wow man thanks for saying that! I really enjoy this work and the community of people On here! Cheers!
I have a French Wheel at home. It looks just like an English Wheel, except I use a lot of French while using it.
Bahahhaha I get it. I suppose in England they just called a wheel
quite often we can learn more from your mistakes--so don't worry if you keep making them!!! My theory is that we should learn something new every day, and the day we don't learn is the last day. Keep up the great movies, entertaining and very educational, as even for some of the panel beaters out there need a bit of help. I have seen so many bodged jobs its great to watch you at work. Thanks
Thanks a lot man! I hope I can save you some time by showing you all my mistakes
It is VERY easy to over stretch a panel, I was making a panel for the roof of my 33 Chevy 5 window. I divided the panel into 2 inch squares. This lets you roll in a systematic way to keep the panel in a smooth curve. You can still put your CLOUD lines in and adjust more curve on one side but the squares keep you from just going nuts in one area. I found I needed to check it against the buck, or in my case I could lay it right on the car AFTER EACH PASS to make sure I was going in the right amount - it takes much less rolling than you think. I have also found it better to start with the large area curve first and then move into the center, this allowed me to watch the center come up instead of chasing the a center that starts out too high. NO expert but it worked for me. Like your channel and the way you work thru things. Thanks
Thank you for sharing your experiences here! It does help to hear what works for other people cheers!
Karl. I love your show. When I get the notification that you have a new episode I get very excited. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us.
Awesome Kevin thank you! I’m glad that you like it cheers!
Wonderful instruction. I was however surprised to see you put the panel on the shop floor a few times without cleaning it off afterward.
Watching mistakes and making mistakes is the best teacher. Your viewers learn so much more when things aren't perfect.
I love your work you always get there with great patience. Geoff Moss is one of the best on an English wheel. There are several videos of him wheeling well worth a look. However if you want to come to the UK the take one of his courses for a week you will be amazed what you learn by the end of the first day you will be able to make a dish. But on the second day you have to turn it back into a flat sheet. These are the tricks you need to make that door skin and you could have saved your first panel. Watching the video you appear to use far too much pressure and shoud use a combination of long and short strokes that overlap to get flowing curvers. I spent a week with him and learnt more in that week than I have over the years working on cars. Great work making the roller dies. Good luck with the project. I am learning off you all the time. Hugh
Toby Southan and his Father from the UK and very good as well.
He’s an incredible metalshaper. I would definitely benefit a lot by taking someone’s class
Thank you so much for your honesty, so many times people only show a finished product , look what I made, but they don't show the pile of scrap they created, and with the cost of metal now mistakes are Expensive.
Hard to copy people that have done it for 20+years...at least you have the courage to keep going. You're an inspiration to many of us Karl 😉 sweet!
Invision Prototypes is another great channel. I think he’s a BC guy as well. Nick does a good job explaining what he’s trying to accomplish on the wheel.
I’ll check them out!
Yes! I have been watching Nick for a minute and that dude rocks on fab! A completely hand built 1940 ford body built onto a modern chassis? Sure, no problem... I'll even build a '40 pickup off the same wire buck while I'm at it. Humble guy too. 🤯
I was on the edge of my seat when you were bead rolling the final panel. Great job! Thanks for the continued content.
Thanks for your support man! LOL I thought I nailed it until I walked down the body wine LOL
Wow, love that you have shown the mistakes and admit that you are learning!
Karl that’s sweet!! You killed it mate. I reckon even Lazze would give you a thumbs up. 👍
Another awesome video. I don't have an English Wheel and will most likely never have one, but have always been interested in this art form. I've watched a lot of your videos in the last year and you not only know how to create masterpieces, but you really know how to share your passion and that's what makes me keep coming back. Keep up the awesomeness.
As many others have said, it's great to see the mistakes. Those of us without your skillset can easily get frustrated and give up. To see a guy like you continue to try until you get it right is inspiring. I have a very good friend who does incredible work and I can't count the number of pieces I've seen him throw away over the years. Like you, he just keeps plugging away until it's right. His favorite comment when asked if he can build something is, "I don't know, I've never tried."
Wow custom does for the bead roller and panel fabrication amazing work and your not afraid to start over to learn with each panel.
You are among the bests!! Greetings from Argentina!!
Thanks man greetings from Canada!
Great work man. Patience is a virtue. If you dont struggle you dont learn. If you dont learn you'll always struggle. Beautiful work. Respect🙏 from Nova Scotia.
I'm a welder and fabricator in steel, mostly plate and solid stock, but I've watched "sheet metal workers" do their work for better than fifty years, and I really enjoy your "learning curve", your determination to get it exactly right, and willingness to toss the pieces as unsatisfactory. I began in the late sixties, and it's good to see the same sort of workmanship and craft, continuing today. Thanks for showing, warts and all. I don't know if it's pertinent in your shop, but I would probably have made two form cutters out of some O-1 stock, to form the two rollers initially, and of course, bringing to final finish as you have. I certainly can't gainsay the outcome though, the rollers work very well. I've certainly learned a lot about moving the thin metal, Thanks for showing this.
Really excellent video - appreciate watching sombody else "ruin metal'' 😀 . Seriously, this is exactly what me and I'm sure most of your viewers experience on a regular basis. You taught me a lot by watching your approach and by sharing your thought process especially when things go sideways. Thanks Karl 👍
It ain’t all butterflies and rainbows LOL the struggle is real and the struggle is real important to growth
It is good to see you admit when you screw up. We all screw up at times but it is better when you know and admit that is when you learn the most. I did a course with Lazze down in Pleasanton a few years ago he made it look so easy but even he said he is always learning
Patience and determination love it. Not sure if any one has already mentioned this. But you may be able to run a sheet through a metal sheet roller, both ways, if you have one, to take a bit of the stress out and also put a slight bit of shape into it. I’ve tried this on my wagon tailgate skin bottom half, which I am in the process of replacing with 2 opposing curves, if that makes sense, after seeing somebody on UA-cam do it and it certainly helped on the edges. I made it oversize to make sure that the edges had some form, I’ve had a few goes tooo 😂👍
I’ll give that a try thank you!
Hi Karl first time I've written. I've been restoring an old MGA 1500 '59. I've been at it for a few years now building up my workshop; TIG, MIG, Oxy Acet, English Wheel, Bead Roller etc.. I decided to try making a complete front shroud 2' 6" ish to replace a rusty horrible section. It's been such an learning curve reflected so much in your video. I'm a Wray Shelin Ron Covell, Trev's blog addict. It's taken me 2 months to make 4 panels to be welded together but used every discipline, area shape patterns. cardboard shape patterns, beading edges. I bought a Wray Shelin shrinking disc which has proved invaluable. Thanks for your input especially in bead rolling.
You are so welcome nick. Those are all amazing instructors to learn from. Sounds like a well equipped shop you have built ! Have fun!
I think we would all like to see the shrinking disc applied to the last pane, and see how it can correct to much crown. Nice lathe work by the way. Trying to find a tradesperson today that can work X and Y together. If it's not CAD it can't be done. 👍
I love the warts and all approach to these videos. You really are a master craftsman. Thank yuou.
Karl, thank you for doing honest videos that show your successes and those times it was not so successful. I think we can all learn something when it doesn’t go as you planned and redo it. Your positive and humble attitude are just awesome!
Your so welcome ! I hope more people are less afraid to try this craft with these videos!
Fantastic job. Good to see someone actually explain the learning process. Just a tip, maybe use a fence to help keep the body line bead roll smooth and on point. Cheers from Oz
Good job Karl what I like is you don't give up . I know this is going to be over the top when all your panels are made and fitted. And it will be like your truck a one of a kind piece of art. Your friend from Louisiana Rick 427
Thanks so much Rick! I can’t wait to get a roof on this thing. Definitely taking a hard road on this project
As a perfectionist I have to give the gold star for going through that process in front of the camera. You did fantastic keeping it cool learning through making mistakes, that or good editing, Lol. Either way the panel looks excellent. By the way I was surprised, you definitely need a Contour gauge for doing what you do, pretty sure it is a must have tool for repeating and making virtually any shape.
Another great one 👍… Thanks.
Thanks man! I made a couple gauges that I used throughout but the wire buck was a good representation as well
What a battle, but it looks great 👍
Those custom bead roller dies were awesome
Man you're a wizard in the metal shop. Bravo. And thanks for showing the mistakes too
Dat's exciting to watch. Fun to watch. Thank you
Impressed with your learning curve and showing all of the steps. Good video. Thanks for sharing.
I had the opportunity to watch Peter Tommasini Wheel a panel and he demonstrated that you can take crown out of a panel by reducing the pressure to nothing and pulling up against the top flat anvil. Amazing fellow with 40+ years experience in metalshaping. I was surprised at how little tension he used and did more with how he pulled the metal out of the wheel. Pulling down against the bottom wheel increased crown, pulling up against the top wheel reduced crown. The way it was explained to me, pushing flat through the wheel with pressure is like hammer on dolly, using no pressure and rolling up is like hammer off dolly.
That top bead roll wobble came from the dies… I love the idea 💡 just weren’t centred properly in the lathe 48:26 to 48:57 you can see the dies aren’t rotating concentricly……still love your work man
Yea I didn’t
Notice that !!! Pretty bad 😂
Even without editing you make it look easy! I’m loving watching you learn what to do it will help me when I start. Sure made it look easy to make the dies 😡
Ha ha ha ha learn from my mistakes! You can make the dies too. Sometimes people almost giveaway big lathes like those
@@MakeItKustom Never used one 😟. My father in-law was a machinist wish he was still around.
I love that your not afraid to show your journey to perfection. I learn a lot along the way and always look forward to every video. Thank you.
Thanks a lot George I’m glad that you are enjoying the content!
Karl Excellent video nicely done Coming along great
You are a marvelous fabricator and teacher... props bro😁
So fun to watch you learn. Your humility makes your videos so valuable. Just about have all my parts gathered to build my wheel. Can’t wait to go through the same learning process. Thank you for the education!
I think now that you have all the content for repair in different situations, i think was nice you showing projects from the beginning until the end, congrats for the Chanel
It's amazing to watch you work and learn at the same time. A lot of times it's a professional who just does the job in one go and that's impressive but you don't really learn anything because there was never a mistake made and you didn't get a chance to see how they had to fix it. I really appreciate you taking us along for this journey.
we appreciate your talent patience and down to earth way you teach!
cant wait to see it running down the road!
it will be drop dead beautiful!
Wray , Covell and Lazze are artists when it comes to sheet metal … I appreciate you sharing your work its much easier to relate too ... I want to get one of you planishing hammers ... saving up for it now
The English Wheel is still a baffling tool to me but these videos are slowly building me up to try it. Definitely fascinating. I guess I will never know until I try........
Thanks for sharing your knowledge - absolutely amazing stuff.
Seen your show for the first time a few weeks ago. Must have been older shows .
This show you seem to have much more equipment. Good for you , glad to see that .
Good luck in the future.
Great video Karl, it's incredible how fast a panel like that can get away from you.
Great work. As others have probably told you, the is an attachment for lathes where you make a metal template and a pointer runs along it as you move the dials. There is also a hydraulic version.
Called a " copy lathe attachment " (of course)
Old school ,but great to use.
I have not seen that tool but if I ever see it at a garage sale I’ll be buying it LOL
Seems like a person could just make one of those. Its just an extension that follws a profile that is probably clamped down flat, right?
I love the working through the problem and developing a skill even though you had to take a few cracks at it. Such a relief from the best of the best do everything right the first time videos out there.
This is why I like your videos, you take the time to explain everything and the why. I wish I could find a channel that did auto upholstery the same way you do metal work.
Awesome work and it was really great seeing you fight through the issues. Too many channels just show the final result which is fine but seeing your struggles and how you worked through them is truly inspirational.
Very challenging panel! Looks like you got it though 👍! Awesome 😎
Fantastic! Learning new skills takes time, patience and a good teacher. Thank you!
Karl you always teach in an entertaining way. I love your videos, you very seldom make anything im not sitting on my seat edge for lol. I dont know how you do it, you have your projects gapped and you always seem to still move along so fast. My projects I go nuts on, burn out, then I lose interest for a while. I wish I was a little closer id love to learn from you Sir!
Thanks for saying that man that’s part of the reason why I hop around on projects. Sometimes you got to take a break and come back to it
@@MakeItKustom thanks again Sir! You guys have a place for us to stop in and grab some merchandise and bitch about fuel prices and priministers?
Agree with the rest, this was fun to watch! I appreciate you showing us the struggle, even a bad ass with a shop full of proper tools has to scrap a panel or two. Now I guess I need to go chop out my b pillar and try again, thanks Karl and Kristina!
You’re welcome Eric! Every day is a school day for me too!
A good presentation on how to succeed! Thanks for all of the informative videos that you share here. You must have had a few amazing teachers along the way, because you are talented as a metal worker, as well as, a trainer. I appreciate you. Thanks again Carl.
Thanks so much man cheers! 🙏🙏🙏
The mistakes are just as important to see as the successes since us viewers are going to meet the same challenges and have to figure out how to fix them too! Great work- keep it up!
Awesome work man! You're a fast learner! You can always push out the edges a little more to release some of the crown, but it's oftentimes better to just start with a fresh piece because the last one is typically somewhat work hardened. I learned the value of lighter pressure and "wash" passes after a number of frustrating "over cooked" sheets myself 😆
This is your best video yet! Learned a ton! Thank you!
Low crowns are really hard on the English wheel, its hard to not let the panel bend over the wheel then you cant really bend it back. You got the right idea keeping it supported, the frame will do a better job than a second person. Edit* also stagger you finish spot, finish past the line, then on, then short, you will get less of a "bump" at the transitions. After masking where you want your bead roll, trim your panel to a even distance from the bead roll and use a bump stop when you bead roll it.
Thanks for the suggestions! I’m definitely going to try to fix that roll with a fence
This type of work can be enough to give diarrheoa the sh#ts at times but with resiliance , a willing to try (and also watch others), along with heaps of material it can be done.
I built a "bucket" style roadster from a cowl and grille shell...... it fought me the whole way but with persistance and help from people willing to share skills I got there....along with a trash can full of failures and a little filler, I'm still far from good at this stuff but enjoy the challenge.
thanks for sharing Karl, good to see you working it out
Good for you! Big projects teach you the most!
Really admire your perseverance.
You have shown me exactly what I imagined the challenge would be.
Another excellent video! I think I subscribed after watching just one of your videos. I was immediately drawn to your analytic descriptions of your thought process.
Dude as good as you are, It makes me feel better to see how humble you are on your own work, Thanks as always, love watching you work!
You always get it done. Great job 👍
Well it's a learning curve and you really do state you and us are all on the journey together . It really is a slow process so it's great if you got patience if not you soon will have a serious understanding on the values of . Great advice on the wire buck taking the time to bend the wires not tension them in to a shape that's going to spring as soon as you weld it . Great seeing a bit of freehand lathe work . Next step is the otherside which will be hopefully done in 1 . Great content as always thanks Karl
That’s my hope too! Hope to get the driver side done in one and make it better than the passenger side
Nice to see you didn't hide your failures. Honest work includes mistakes. Unfortunately with the price of steel a screwed up panel is a friggen mortgage payment now
Hahahaha !!!
I'm sure you have heard the old welders joke, An apprentice was paired up with a journeyman pipefitter, every time the welder was going to strike an arc he said "watch it" . After a mornings work they took a coffee break and when done went back to the pipe, the welder put his hood on, picked up his torch and said watch it, the apprentice shot back "you watch it, my eyes hurt."
Bhahaha !
Has my absolute respect and reverence after this post.
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Nice one Karl!! You may be learning but you are an inspiration to those of us that have a lot more to learn than you do!!!!!
Great job Karl. You give me some hope I might be able to have a go at my boot skin. The support table also seemed to work well. I don't think I've haven't seen any of the big players show how to control the final arrangement of low crown panels, so clamps are not required. I'll keep looking. Remember Wray's catch phrase : Metal is Clay
Yeah that’s definitely a struggle I’ve always had is controlling the final arrangements so there’s no Clamps are needed