On my opinion t he Fission 9 because i have a wide feet , not an expensive shoe , mainly an outdoor hooper and my position is a Center (sometimes i play PF ).
The first version of AC12 need break in time with traction..but the latest colorways, Zen, Raz Fuego, Aurora, Birthday and Skyline color, don't need break in time for traction..just fyi..thanks
i feel like i’m watching someone with millions of subs. the quality and the quantity of tommy’s videos are unmatched. by far my favorite sneaker youtuber
Great review, I have the all city 12 laker colorway size 12 big guy and they fit my flat wide feet very well and comfortably, zero pinching or squeezing for anyone considering them
Fantastic video man. Glad you came out with this. Lots of questions answered. Less time in the comments lol. I’m surprised no other channels have done this. Kudos!
Thank you for this, Tommy! Glad that you heard our cries. My Fission 9, in the pink color, is on its way! All of them are good though, maybe getting the 808 3 ultra v2 sometime.
Commenting mad late but, how’d you like the fission 9? I’m between them and the all city 12. I have a wider foot so I’m leaning towards Fissions, but I feel like the all city is a better overall shoe
One of the best reviews out there! Great Job doing contents like this Tommy! Very precise and simple description and comparison but still got the ideas fully! Thank you for this! Got to go between 808 3 ultra v2, ac12 and fission 9.
@@Zanverr Took like two weeks to be at my door. Tommy's right they do get better over time. The grip is amazing now and they are just such a comfortable shoe. Especially when jumping, the cushion absorbs shock so well.
This is a great video which gives youban idea of the shoe and how its like to play in it but the prices have changed, mostly the all city 12 which price droped to 90-110$ in Stock X
Amazing comparison! Really appreciate you doing this. I was really torn on my spring shoe but this helped a lot. I may just have to splurge on the AC12. Any chance you will review the DVD2?
I'm a size 12 1/2, & this All city 12 actually might be the first shoe that fits me perfectly. As you know finding a 12 1/2 can be quite difficult or not available. So I usually have to get a 13, it worked out great this time.
Ive canceld my order of fission 9 and orderd all city 12 thank you so much bro im lightweight player and i just want all around shoe for gym,basketball and whatsoever
@@TommyLiu4 yeah you right the only thing thats annoys me its the style i wish they had same preformance of all city 12 on the looks of red dragon just imagine
Love This Versus Video!!! WOW & Lining Are Killing It For A While Now And Finally Getting The Recognition They Deserve!!! P.S. Versus Video But Not Sure If You Have Enough Anta Shoes...Klay Thompson, JB1/2, Gordon Hayward, Shock Wave 5???
Great video my guy, i tried the all city 11 and i was disappointed with the outsole and comfortablilty after some games. Also i wish you make more videos on li-nings drops like the speed 9 new look and liren 4 v2 low they look really good and no one speaks english are talking about them.
GREAT FUCKING VIDEO! Even the jokes in between are nice and made me laught 😂 Good review, I have a AC11 v2 and I’m waiting on my fission 9 to arrive, pretty sure I made the right choice! Thanks for the video and the effort to put it all out for us. Great work!
Great work on these videos. Nice seeing another Toronto hooper. Couple of questions: 1. How much room is there in the toebox (i.e., above the toes/balls of feet) of the AC12 and Fission 9? 2. Once broken in, how close is the traction of the AC12 to Fission 9 for dusty courts? Thanks
🙏 All City 12 has a snug toe box fit, almost no extra space at all while the Fission 9 is much more spacious. They’re close but traction on dust alone I’d take the Fission 9.
Superb Review!!! Tommy, have you ever tried the Liren 4? I just got myself a pair, for me they are hands down the best shoes ever. And I tought nothing will ever top my asics nova surge, well I was so wrong. Liren4> Asics Nova surge> Ac11 > Son of Flash.
good review with all comparisons..i have 4 li nings now and loved them all. was wondering what do you do with all your unused pairs? do you resell them? you must have amassed a number of shoes by now.
Tommy I’ve been on the look for the Li Ning Badfive 3, but the only the reviews are in a Chinese with no translation, have you considered doing a review on the Badfive 3? Based off context clues apparently it’s an outdoor beast
Thanks for the Awesome Comparison! I am now wearing 808 2 Ultra V2. I am attracted by your Newer model! Should i pick the Same Size for this 808 3 Ultra V2? Thanks in advance
I play my basketball weekly with my all city 11 v2. But. I own the origin all city 12 and the black 808 3 v2... they are so comfortable I dont even want try and damage them yet hooping..
Might as well just get them now, no one has any idea when wow 11 is coming out. If they come out later this year you can just get them then too. Shoe rotations are a good idea.
Did you get a chance to compare the toe boxes during this? You mentioned the 808 v2 was wider toe box vs previous model but how do they feel compared to each other?
Hey man, this might be 7 months too late, but for strictly outdoor use would you go for the AC12 or Fission 9? Have enough indoor shoes, just want something to tank through rough concrete and asphalt with enough shock absorption.
Hey again Tommy, ive been contemplating whether to get the 808 3's or AC12 as my final choices to pick. My criteria's are good court feel, bounce, traction, and somewhat lightweight as well. I am also on the heavier side, so cushioning would help too. I've been thinking on getting the AC12's instead of the 808s but I just want to know your opinion for what shoe would fit me best. BTW, I play volleyball so impact protection would be very useful as well. *Edit: My feet are also in the wider side
Hola,ya has probado los yushai evolution low??quisiera saber si vienen a la misma talla que los all city 12,y si son cómodos como esos para gente pesada de 90 kg
I’ve been wanting to buy v2s for vball, so I have to jump a lot, high, and forwards. Does the high ankle protection bother while full jumping with approach?
i stumbled upon this video bc i gad the same question. i would like to buy one of this pairs but i would also like to use them as an every day shoe, which one would you consider to be the best one to be an every day shoe? i also have an all city 11 v2 but should i use one pair to be an everyday shoe or just a regular hoop shoe?
Either All City 12 or Fission 9, for daily casual wear I guess it just comes down to which style you like better between those two. Fission 9 is probably more ideal since it fits wider.
I’m thinking if I should buy 808 3 ultra v2s. I’m 14 played Vball for about 7yrs, middle and outside. I wear 25.5cm shoes in mizunos. What size should I get in wade and is it worth it to spend £130 on shoes. Thank you
my wow 10 is 9.5 but it feels little tight like frel like theres not enough room in there i wear 10s normally in like casual shoes j1 and etc it feels like they got little bit more room in them should i get 10 on 808 3 ultra v2 or 10.5 what do you think🤔
Comparing the the fit on the midfoot, would you say that the AC12 has a more snug fit that the AC11 v1? Cause I have the AC11 v1 on sz 10 US, they run a bit long but also a bit tight on the mid foot area
Best Cushion: All City 12 Traction: 808 3 Ultra V2 3:00 Comfort: Fission 9 4:20 Fit: Best for Wide Feet: Fission 9 Best Material: 6:03 #1 All City 12 # 2 Best Stability and Support: Shadow 5 # 3 Lightest" All City 12 # 4 Best looking: Shadow 5 Fission 9 - Soft All City 12 - Breathable and Durable 808 3 Ultra V2 - No Pinching Shadow 5 - Hard & Stif 8:30
Which one do YOU like?? You can find a quick summary & link to each of these in the description box as well. Thank you for watching!!
On my opinion t he Fission 9 because i have a wide feet , not an expensive shoe , mainly an outdoor hooper and my position is a Center (sometimes i play PF ).
Hey Tommy thanks you replied 808 3 ultra v2 is A tier. What is the deciding area it is not a S? Haha
definitely ac 12
The first version of AC12 need break in time with traction..but the latest colorways, Zen, Raz Fuego, Aurora, Birthday and Skyline color, don't need break in time for traction..just fyi..thanks
you honestly deserve more subscribers, you make quick quality content yet you only have 44k subs
🙏🙏
i agree
i feel like i’m watching someone with millions of subs. the quality and the quantity of tommy’s videos are unmatched. by far my favorite sneaker youtuber
@@lukepratti Thank you so much!!
Spread the word!
Great review, I have the all city 12 laker colorway size 12 big guy and they fit my flat wide feet very well and comfortably, zero pinching or squeezing for anyone considering them
Nice. Thanks for your input! 🙏🙏
Did you went TTS ?
Really? Interesting considering foot doctor Zach said they narrow. Good to know.
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 maybe it’s cause I have more weight? I’m 6’3 245 and like I said they fit me very nicely
Fantastic video man. Glad you came out with this. Lots of questions answered. Less time in the comments lol. I’m surprised no other channels have done this. Kudos!
Thanks man! Appreciate you here 🙏🤛
Thank you for this, Tommy! Glad that you heard our cries. My Fission 9, in the pink color, is on its way! All of them are good though, maybe getting the 808 3 ultra v2 sometime.
Nice!! That’s an amazing colorway, gorgeous 👍🧧
Commenting mad late but, how’d you like the fission 9? I’m between them and the all city 12. I have a wider foot so I’m leaning towards Fissions, but I feel like the all city is a better overall shoe
@@Yaseen.ZWhat did you choose?
Thank you so much for this video!! I really cant express how much I needed a video going through WOW shows… love the pink colorways!
Before i buy some ball kicks i always watching your videos, thank you so much tommy 👌
Thank you!! Appreciate you watching 🙏🙏
One of the best reviews out there! Great Job doing contents like this Tommy! Very precise and simple description and comparison but still got the ideas fully! Thank you for this! Got to go between 808 3 ultra v2, ac12 and fission 9.
Thank YOU!!
@TommyLiu4 you're welcome my man! Keep hustling!
Great comparison Tommy.. tanx for this
🙏🙏
very nice comparison video of the 4 shoes :)
I bought the 12s based on your reviews and comparisons. Thank you for making this video man truly appreciated !
Nice man! How do you like the 12s so far??
@@TommyLiu4 I haven't received them yet but they'll come in soon. I'll be using them to play volleyball but ill let you know.
@@AlfrancisGuerrero I see I see 👍
@@AlfrancisGuerrerohow are they? How many weeks did it take to arrive?
@@Zanverr Took like two weeks to be at my door. Tommy's right they do get better over time. The grip is amazing now and they are just such a comfortable shoe. Especially when jumping, the cushion absorbs shock so well.
This is a great video which gives youban idea of the shoe and how its like to play in it but the prices have changed, mostly the all city 12 which price droped to 90-110$ in Stock X
'I think this might just be your masterpiece'..thanks man, great video!
🙏 Thanks man!
Great work, Tommy.
I have the Fission 9’s and they feel wonderful.
👍👍 Thank you!!
I have the Fission 9’s too, my first Wade shoe and they are awesome
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87do you use them for indoor or outdoor use?
do you use them for indoor or outdoor use?
@@thomasward5977 BOTH. They work great for both.
Amazing comparison! Really appreciate you doing this. I was really torn on my spring shoe but this helped a lot. I may just have to splurge on the AC12. Any chance you will review the DVD2?
Thank you!! Appreciate you watching. Yes they’re on my list, I’ll do my best 🙏🙏
Great comparison video bro! You should include the li ning liren 3 v2 & 4 v2 next time
I'm a size 12 1/2, & this All city 12 actually might be the first shoe that fits me perfectly. As you know finding a 12 1/2 can be quite difficult or not available. So I usually have to get a 13, it worked out great this time.
Ive canceld my order of fission 9 and orderd all city 12 thank you so much bro im lightweight player and i just want all around shoe for gym,basketball and whatsoever
👌👍
Nice man, I think you’ll like the All City 12 but I mean there’s really no bad choice there between the two.
@@TommyLiu4 yeah you right the only thing thats annoys me its the style i wish they had same preformance of all city 12 on the looks of red dragon just imagine
@@SelarZ Yeahh that’d be sick
Just got my AC12 bro the shoe is amazing@@TommyLiu4
Love This Versus Video!!! WOW & Lining Are Killing It For A While Now And Finally Getting The Recognition They Deserve!!!
P.S. Versus Video But Not Sure If You Have Enough Anta Shoes...Klay Thompson, JB1/2, Gordon Hayward, Shock Wave 5???
I like the 808 3 ultra v2 but im not sure about outside durability since i play outdoor only, this video helps a lot.
👍🙏
How are they when Jumping high and forward? Are the ankle protections bothering? I’ve wanted to buy them to play vball.
Great video my guy, i tried the all city 11 and i was disappointed with the outsole and comfortablilty after some games.
Also i wish you make more videos on li-nings drops like the speed 9 new look and liren 4 v2 low they look really good and no one speaks english are talking about them.
Will do a vid on all those 🙏
Speed 9 Ultra: ua-cam.com/video/QteeY_2niGo/v-deo.htmlsi=7QAN5P-gPq4RWmdi
Liren’s coming up
Appreciated, also websites to purchase the none-signature li-nings shoes from
@@abedeen4072 kicksown.com
My pick is....all of them😁😁that's my own opinion,they are all solid sneakers,so I Love 😘 them all..
Very informative and hit every point needed thank you very much
🙏🤛 Appreciate you watching!
This helped a lot, thanks man!
Cheers man 🙏
GOAT. Requesting for Fresh Foam BB V2 please!
🙏 Sure thing! Will do.
Blud really called his friends fat LMAOOO
😆😆😆
GREAT FUCKING VIDEO!
Even the jokes in between are nice and made me laught 😂
Good review, I have a AC11 v2 and I’m waiting on my fission 9 to arrive, pretty sure I made the right choice!
Thanks for the video and the effort to put it all out for us.
Great work!
Haha nice, good choice for sure! I think you’ll like them. Appreciate you watching 🙏🙏
Great guide!
Personally, I'm just not really into the looks of the Shadow 5 and the All City 12.
Great work on these videos. Nice seeing another Toronto hooper.
Couple of questions:
1. How much room is there in the toebox (i.e., above the toes/balls of feet) of the AC12 and Fission 9?
2. Once broken in, how close is the traction of the AC12 to Fission 9 for dusty courts?
Thanks
🙏 All City 12 has a snug toe box fit, almost no extra space at all while the Fission 9 is much more spacious. They’re close but traction on dust alone I’d take the Fission 9.
That's the way to do it. Thanks man. Hopefully lining will have shops in the Philipiines same like anta
Superb Review!!! Tommy, have you ever tried the Liren 4? I just got myself a pair, for me they are hands down the best shoes ever. And I tought nothing will ever top my asics nova surge, well I was so wrong. Liren4> Asics Nova surge> Ac11 > Son of Flash.
Yeah agreed - I’ve really loved them too. I’ll do a vid soon! I like that you enjoyed the Nova Surge too haha 🤛
And thank you!!
good review with all comparisons..i have 4 li nings now and loved them all.
was wondering what do you do with all your unused pairs? do you resell them? you must have amassed a number of shoes by now.
Thanks. I’ve kept most
Are you gonna have a performance review on the gt cut academy? Great vids ❤
Yes
Looking forward on your review of Rigorer AR1s 🙏🏻
Someone hired a thumbnail editor, we are cooked now
LOL my wife says thank you, she shall resume with the role.
@@TommyLiu4 dang. You got the whole family working, when will your baby be the cameraman?
@@ttvWideShoes Soon man, gotta make my own sweatshop like Nike does. Jk 😂
Thank you. All city for me.
I'm leaning towards Li-ning, no pun intended. Promise 😅
Tommy I’ve been on the look for the Li Ning Badfive 3, but the only the reviews are in a Chinese with no translation, have you considered doing a review on the Badfive 3?
Based off context clues apparently it’s an outdoor beast
K I’ll consider - on my radar actually. 🙏
Fission 9, hands down.
Great video very informative!
Thank you!!
Already bought shadow 5, damn should watch this youtube first
First?
Edit: Thanks a lot for your review on the Witness 7s btw! Just bought em and they are amazing!
👍👍 Nice!
Thanks for the Awesome Comparison!
I am now wearing 808 2 Ultra V2.
I am attracted by your Newer model!
Should i pick the Same Size for this 808 3 Ultra V2?
Thanks in advance
Which of these is durable one for outdoor court? 12 or v2 are my preference.
Great analysis 👏🏻
Both are durable as mentioned.
Amazing video!
Thank you!
Calling out your friends for being pretty fat on video is insane 😂 waiting for the silver colorway of the AC12 to cop. Can't wait
Let em know 😆
Does the AC 12 fit similar to the son of flash? I think I have a regular size foot and I had to go a half size up on the SoF
Yes
I play my basketball weekly with my all city 11 v2. But. I own the origin all city 12 and the black 808 3 v2... they are so comfortable I dont even want try and damage them yet hooping..
Please make a review video in Peak Spirit 1.0 thank you
fission 9 vs 808 3 regular wich one better?
Fission 9 for its better cushion.
Can you do Badfive, the latest version? On an outdoor court?
do the rigorer ar1 please
son of 3 or speed IX premium, wich is better? (overall and traction on clean and mainly dusty courts)
Son of Chi 3.0
Do you think it’s worth to wait for wow11 or choose from the current selection? Specifically for volleyball on dusty courts
I have no idea on anything about the WOW 11 as of now.
Might as well just get them now, no one has any idea when wow 11 is coming out. If they come out later this year you can just get them then too. Shoe rotations are a good idea.
Please review 361° big3 IV quick
Thoughts on best shoe for volleyball players?
From these ones? Probably All City 12.
@@TommyLiu4 awesome thanks. Any overall suggestions for volleyball? I was looking at the Two Wxy V4s. Can’t get the AG4s here in Canada rip.
@@Nolzor Yeah I think the TWO WXY V4 will be great!
I don't know what the feeling is so I don't know how to compare. I hope that I have that kind of shoes. 🏀💪🏼🏀 advance happy Chinese New Year 🐉🐲🐉🐲🐉
Which one would be the best for flat feet? I’m very flat footed btw
Fission 9
Fission 9
What do you think is more worth it for their price?
AC 12, GT Cut Academy or fission 9?
Did you get a chance to compare the toe boxes during this? You mentioned the 808 v2 was wider toe box vs previous model but how do they feel compared to each other?
Most spacious toe box fit here - Fission 9.
@@TommyLiu4 perfect those are the ones I'm looking at! Your reviews are the best 🙏🏽
@@callygonzo 👍🙏 Thank you!!
I am tempted but waiting for the wow11
True.
Haven’t heard anything about that yet though
Wow11 might not come for a while my dude
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 I still have some tread left on my dame certified so I still have some time 😃
I can’t decide between the F9 and the 8083UV2
Hey man, this might be 7 months too late, but for strictly outdoor use would you go for the AC12 or Fission 9?
Have enough indoor shoes, just want something to tank through rough concrete and asphalt with enough shock absorption.
@@johnnyapplesins4502 Hey, All City 12.
Im currently using wow 10 and sadly it does pinches on my slightly wide foot.
Damn. Should have gone a size up.
Hey again Tommy, ive been contemplating whether to get the 808 3's or AC12 as my final choices to pick. My criteria's are good court feel, bounce, traction, and somewhat lightweight as well. I am also on the heavier side, so cushioning would help too. I've been thinking on getting the AC12's instead of the 808s but I just want to know your opinion for what shoe would fit me best. BTW, I play volleyball so impact protection would be very useful as well. *Edit: My feet are also in the wider side
Hey, All City 12 😃 Don’t forget to go half size up.
Thanks! @@TommyLiu4
@@surge4783 🤛
What happened to the Way of Wades Low 10?
I don't know, was interested to buy them
Best shoes for explosive fast changing handlers?
Not sure sorry, that’s the complete opposite of me 😂 From here probably the All City 12.
@@TommyLiu4 lol it’s cool haha thanks man 😂🤙🏻
hey, can you make a review of the newly released wade flash 'raz fuego'??
Hi yes
what do you think about the fission 9 vs the son of flash
Fission 9, better cushion.
And more comfortable, better for wide feet also.
Here's a spanner. Would you go fission 9 over the AC11? Maybe which one is wider?
They’re about the same, both decent for wide feet. I’d go Fission 9.
Hola,ya has probado los yushai evolution low??quisiera saber si vienen a la misma talla que los all city 12,y si son cómodos como esos para gente pesada de 90 kg
808’s ok for wider feet?
I remember buying some PG’s and my foot legit didn’t fit in the shoe even with a size bigger lol
@@fortyforfree 808 3 regular version yes, Ultra maybe not.
which would you say would last longer for outdoors tommy? Fission 8 or Fission 9?
8
Should i buy wade all city 12 or wow 10?
WOW 10
could you do the 808 vs the liren 4 v2?
i agree with bros decision
tommy what do you suggest the most for volleyball?
All City 12
@@TommyLiu4thx!
Which one would be best for tennis or even Pickleball?
Fission 9
AC 12 ❤
Which would you recommend for vertical jumps?
All City 12
do you have a review between All City 12 vs 808 3 Ultra V2 low? which do you pick? :)
All City 12
@@TommyLiu4 thank you sir :)
I’ve been wanting to buy v2s for vball, so I have to jump a lot, high, and forwards. Does the high ankle protection bother while full jumping with approach?
Nope didn’t bother me at all - but I’m not nearly as athletic so keep that in mind… I think you should be fine.
i stumbled upon this video bc i gad the same question. i would like to buy one of this pairs but i would also like to use them as an every day shoe, which one would you consider to be the best one to be an every day shoe? i also have an all city 11 v2 but should i use one pair to be an everyday shoe or just a regular hoop shoe?
Either All City 12 or Fission 9, for daily casual wear I guess it just comes down to which style you like better between those two. Fission 9 is probably more ideal since it fits wider.
hi tommy, which one should I pick between wow 808 3 regular and all city 12 for outdoor court (they have similar price)
Hi All City 12
@@TommyLiu4 thank you bro 🥰
What if 808 3 reg not ultra v3 ? Which better
If i have a 10cm feet is the all city 12 good?
Like you lost half of your foot?
@@TommyLiu4 i meant width,I think it's pretty wide
@@BAGUETTEO8 All City 12 is on the narrower side, as mentioned.
@@TommyLiu4 if i go half a size up?
I’m thinking if I should buy 808 3 ultra v2s. I’m 14 played Vball for about 7yrs, middle and outside. I wear 25.5cm shoes in mizunos. What size should I get in wade and is it worth it to spend £130 on shoes. Thank you
I wouldn’t know the specific measurements by each size, you can look up their size chart.
my wow 10 is 9.5 but it feels little tight like frel like theres not enough room in there i wear 10s normally in like casual shoes j1 and etc it feels like they got little bit more room in them should i get 10 on 808 3 ultra v2 or 10.5 what do you think🤔
10
Which one of this is good for outdoor?
All of them are 😃
@@TommyLiu4 like yeah, but the overall durability of the shoe that doesn't get damage faster. Because the floor we have are concrete,asphhalt,cement
im considering between ac12 and fission 9. which outsole do you think is more durable
Both should be good, durable enough.
@@TommyLiu4 im having 808 3 ultra in size 9, what size should I get fission 9 in?
Comparing the the fit on the midfoot, would you say that the AC12 has a more snug fit that the AC11 v1? Cause I have the AC11 v1 on sz 10 US, they run a bit long but also a bit tight on the mid foot area
Yes
@@TommyLiu4 how about the Fission 9, in terms of mid foot fit?
@@JerichoPavon More spacious
Best Cushion:
All City 12
Traction:
808 3 Ultra V2 3:00
Comfort:
Fission 9 4:20
Fit: Best for Wide Feet:
Fission 9
Best Material:
6:03
#1 All City 12
# 2 Best Stability and Support: Shadow 5
# 3 Lightest" All City 12
# 4 Best looking: Shadow 5
Fission 9 - Soft
All City 12 - Breathable and Durable
808 3 Ultra V2 - No Pinching
Shadow 5 - Hard & Stif
8:30
Do you think the 808 3 ultra v2 looks good for going out?
Sure
Why not 😁
Which one has the best courtfeel?
All City 12
Best for a slim/skinny foot?
All City 12
AC11 V2 or the AC12?
12
how is it compared to the AE1s? Thanks!
@@TommyLiu4
@@m.pomlancechristian5281 ua-cam.com/video/B9lTdfuc3E4/v-deo.htmlsi=wfTa9tTbxa-9cvBx
What about the sun of flash?
Great still 😃
If I wear size 8 on ultra should I go half size up for v2?
No, the V2 toe box fits wider then the Ultra V1. Go with the same size or even half a size smaller if you’d like.
There is no 11.5 size in 808 3 ultra v2, should I go my size(11) or size up?
You can stay true to size.
Can you make comparison also for Way of Wade 808 3?