DERANGED! She Idolized Serial Killers and Became A Murderer! Shaye Groves & Frankie Fitzgerald
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True crime lovers don’t love “crime” we love the psychology, detective work and evidence based information. Long story short we love a bit of puzzle and problem solving and learning what goes on in people’s heads.
Exactly we despise the actual crime and the criminal. the intent in watching is to be more aware and protect yourself/loved ones from shady criminals.
Yes! To all of it!
Exactly me too
Bull
Definitely, it also helps to learn about red flag behaviors so we can be more perceptive of the people around us. It's not about glorifying disgusting things that people do or idolizing them for doing it. Normal people don't put pics of Bundy or Dahmer on their wall.
I am a therapist, true crime lover and my father was a detective. True crime stories will NOT make someone into a killer. They were that way but just happened to immerse themselves in the genre.
Underlying mental illness.
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great post! i agree
💯 I also think a lot of us that grew up in the 90s had a Chuckie doll at some point. So don’t feel too bad Anna lol.
54 year old mom agrees 💯💯💯💯
There is a huge difference between idolizing k!llers and wanting to understand the “why”.
I completely agree!!
100% agree! I'm a true crime enthusiast, but only due to wondering why and my fascination with the psychology of it.
Omg very well said …
I would hope so! Otherwise that’s bad news for all of us 😬
And also wanting to learn warning signs and Red Flags ⛳️to watch out for! Like kids torturing and killing small animals. True Crime is very educational
I don’t think true crime influenced her violent crime. I think she used true crime to justify her feelings of violence and terror. Thanks for sharing Annie, I haven’t heard of this case-it’s actually insane !
There is always the " wanna be 's"
Oh for sure, she clearly loved killing her bf.
She was always a killer.true crime just sparked her want to kill
I think a lot of people like myself are so invested in true crime cases because it’s real world education about the psychology of violence, lies, power struggles, etc. I personally think that watching true crime has helped my “gut instinct” detect unsafe people faster than it did before. Now, when I see someone being very manipulative, I can quickly make the leap that they could become abusive. And then, a few months later, the person I was suspicious of has a DV charge. For women especially, it’s important to stay educated and aware.
The lady in this case, though? Totally sick and twisted 🤢
I TOTALLY agree with your take on the subject. That's how/ why I can sit the 2hrs of just interrogations and not be bored!
Exactly. It's more for education +, not to pick up from it and plan a murder.
I agree I study to heighten my awareness I believe vulnerable people need to know these things. I also do psychic readings for a living helps me read people situations and to understand the world more
Well said exactly my thoughts
I never miss a video. Keep it up Annie!
When I feel like I’m not a stellar success story in our culture, a boring average person who has somehow failed to become rich or famous, a true crime story is just the thing to remind me what a lovely life my family and I have. Topping it off with an episode of hoarders further reinforces how much I have to be grateful for 😂 Love your videos - thanks!
Damnit😂
😂😂😂 the hoarders comment😂👏👏🤣🤣
😂😂😂 I watch hoarders also to soothe myself.
Yes, I love everything True Crime and I binge watch Hoarders when I need motivation to organize!! It's amazing how easily true life can make average people feel better, nay "grateful" for that boring, average life. I'm like, "I'm alive, haven't been tortured, I'm not a criminal with a heavy conscience needing to look over my shoulder, anddddd, I can **usually** invite people into my ghetto, one bedroom apt without being ashamed, lol." So, life is GOOD!!
My mom used to hug me when the nanny with them bad kids would come on. That British people. It was a great memory
I was a victim of domestic violence for 10 years. 12 broken bones, 9 concussions, and too many rapes to count, including one that conceived my last child after I filed a restraining order. I was over sensitive to true crime shows. I couldn't watch them. Finally I found a program I could handle which lead me to others. These shows actually helped me with my PTSD. They showed victims who continued a good life, justice, and the pain the loved ones went thru from grieving their lost loved ones. Why that part? Bc I kept fighting and survived and didn't have to put my family thru that. These shows can be very helpful if taken in by those who are curious of the psychology of the perpetrator.
I'm sorry you had to go through all of that,but grateful you made it out alive 💓
It helps hearing others stories to better understand it was them not you, and take away some of the guilt and shame of "putting up with it", being able to relate, not feel alone and to be thankful it could have had a worse outcome.
I only dealt with "mild" stuff as in threats of taking mine or his life, hair pull, push, non painful items thrown at such as food or liquid, taking away and destroying things & constant surveillance.
But stories help understand that it is abuse, even if he never hit me, and to see the warning signs and potential danger.
And luckily I didn't have a smart home, the technology abuse sucked enough.
So glad you survived 💪, that sounds absolutely horrifically terrifying! ❤
You deserve nothing more than a life of happiness and love, beginning with loving yourself.
I hope you are healing.
Years of bruses heals but the trauma doesn't.❤❤
I’m sorry that happened to you
So sorry 😢
I have been reading, watching and listening to true crime for 48 yrs (since I was 10) and I have NEVER had the desire or thought to hurt or kill anyone or anything!! I still cry at alot of the stories just saying!! Love you Annie ❤️
I started when I was 8. I found a book my mother had on Fred & Rosemary West and I've been hooked ever since. I'm 35 now. I couldn't ever dream of harming someone else and like you, I still get emotional at these crimes
Exactly❤️
It’s almost like you are, dare I say it……normal😂
As a law enforcement family of 32 years and a former cadaver canine handler for our local S.O., I have always kept up with true crime stories. Most LE keep up with it to stay ahead of it and be alert to whats going on out there. When my daughter was born, i became hyper alert to it so i could be informed and stay even more alert for her sake and safety. These stories do indeed teach people what not to do and what to be aware of.
Yess
I completely agree!
I agree. There is one aspect that I fear. If criminals, or wannabe criminals watch these, they could find out what not to do in order to not avoid getting caught.
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Yup, everyone should know what's out there
It’s not “kink shaming” to call out someone’s messed up sexual perversion. We’re so afraid to judge others’ actions as wrong when a good friend with courage could have stepped in and let her know she was on a dark path a long time ago and could have come off of it!
Right?!? It’s not kink shaming when someone is doing something that is harmful that could come with long term consequences.
I really don't think she would have listened to anyone
Right? We're so tolerant this shit happens right under our noses. Start making people uncomfortable for the right reasons 👏🏻
BDSM is fine when it's between two consenting adults but this shit is straight up torture
agree. I have a former friend continually in dv and part of it is kink related and yet she puts herself as the victim. at the point she pulled a knife on her dv partner that was it "she didn't know why' she did it. because you are escalating perhaps? you know if you keep chasing guys who hit you and you stay, that IS a choice. I know that's unpopular opinion but if you are happy to use your friends as debriefers and enablers to keep going back to bad choices, you need to take a step back and check yourself.
Things like a coffin bookcase I totally get , I love gothic ,horror and macabre things. There is a significant difference between being interested in true crime and glamourising murderers. I personally feel even a mug with a slogan about a real killer is offensive let alone framed photos. Imagine how victims loved ones would feel about that
Completely agree. And there is a difference between collecting and displaying horror movie memorabilia (like a mug with Freddy Kruger on it, a chucky doll, etc) and collecting and displaying serial killer memorabilia.
Absolutely, thank you for saying this! I have a more spooky aesthetic, my husband and I have a lot of Halloween and horror themed Decour in our house, we watch a lot of horror, movies, and I personally am obsessed with the whole Chucky franchise, he being obsessed with Return of the Living Dead, and we are two of the most mild mannered, nicest people you’ll ever meet. Just because we wear horror, fandom stuff and have Chucky dolls and figurines, doesn’t mean anything negative about us as people.
Yes I don't feel gothic things like coffins and skulls are offensive. I grew up next to a cemetery and love the beautiful angel gravestones. I wouldn't have any killer merch or art in my home though, as I don't see any beauty in such things.
Totally agree...
Exactly, people forget the point is to keep the victims in our minds not the serial killers
I watch and read about true crime because I’m autistic and I’m not aware of people’s true intentions or situations that would potentially be dangerous. In fact, before I was a true crime aficionado, I got myself in an unfortunate circumstance. Listening to survivors stories helps me continue living- if they can thrive, I can thrive. It gives me hope. So I watch true crime for education and inspiration to continue living.
Exactly this for me too ☺️
If someone has a framed photo of Ted Bundy immediatly call for help that is not normal. This couple was toxic for each other. Both needed help.
I just saw one of the True Crime UA-camrs I watch and actually really like, her birthday cake was True Crime themed and it was decorated to look like it was dripping in blood with crime scene tape and little metal knives, handcuffs and shards of glass all over it, i personally found it to be INCREDIBLY insensitive to all the victims and their families who she’s done videos about and fundraisers for. Like these are real people who’ve lost their lives, they’re murder victims, not your birthday party inspo. But I seemed to be the only one bothered by it, because everyone else just wished her a Happy Birthday and said how adorable the cake was.
@@01SaltyWitch OK that's creepy
@@01SaltyWitchLord, who is it? That sounds creepy af!
@@01SaltyWitch I agree with you that's creepy
Jonathan Davis of Korn owned Ted Bundy’s Volkswagen & it had handcuffs, a ski mask & a crow bar in it. For ‘fun’.
Idk the more true crime I watch, the more horrified I become that people are capable of doing these things to each other! The shock value never wanes for me, and certainly does NOT make me want to do it to another person.
Same! It makes me more and more uneasy about strangers and makes me feel like I need to be more aware of people when I go out. I am truly horrified by the things some people do, but I think it's important the victim's stories are told. It almost feels like an act of respect to listen to their story. I absolutely HATE serial killers. I don't even want to look at their pictures in the documentaries.
YES SAME!!!!
After watching these videos about crimes against children it made me physically sick and I felt I wanted to really hurt the chomos and I can't imagine getting turned on sexually by this stuff
EXACTLY
@@SquishyCowyes I totally agree, I’m actually more aware of my surroundings & don’t easily trust people upon meeting them.
Good opening point. As an animal rescue worker, hearing about young serial killers torturing animals in every damn serial killer video was literally ruining my mental health. Now I forward past that part but idk, I may just put true crime on pause. I already see the worst in people regarding animals...
Hi Diana! Thank you for your service. The invisible heroes sent to Earth to protect the most vulnerable. Good Luck to you and best wishes to yr fellow angels
Listen to your intuition!
@@darlinevictor oh thank you so much Darline. How kind.
@@TheWestlandgirl thank you, excellent advice. I've been doing that more
Your mental health comes first!! 🩷
The sweet mommy talk come out when Annie says "uncomfy" 10 to Life is my favorite true crime channel because she has a way of making these sad cases a less horrifying to listen to. The solved cases are really why I watch true crime so much..
Agreed!!! I'm usually super paranoid after listening to true crime but after finding her channel I'm not as paranoid because of the way she presents the cases.
@@lilianajoyme too
Thank you for all you do! Not only bringing awareness for the victims in the cases you cover but also for being such a comforting person for those who watch you!
It's so weird... These cases actually help with my anxiety.... Like when my mind needs a break boom tune in and my mind slows down and calms.... And I thoroughly appreciate hearing about the flawed system, the horrible police work, and bringing justice for those who deserve it.
You made very good points!
I believe she already had sociopathic tendencies and embraced them while submersing herself in true crime stories. Instead of seeing those stories through the lens of empathy for victims and how to discern behaviors in potentially bad people, she embraced her dark desires within herself already which is evidenced by her choices. I also believe this is a spiritual battle that ultimately ended in tragedy. There are definitely doors that people open to their souls by engaging in the Occult which bdsm is linked to.
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Yep i totally Agree with You ,👍
@Beth 💯
Bro what the actual fck is that last part of your comment lmaoooo
Neither bdsm or the occult has anything to do with this, what are you talking about? She used true crime as a excuse and a way to learn how to clean up and attempt to get away with it
I’ve been reading books for at least 28 years about serial killers. I been watching podcasts for at least 5 or 6 years. NEVER have I been concerned that I was one of them!!! 🙄🥺
💖Annie, it's women like you ( and a number of other creators) who have inspired me to use my voice after the things I have been through, and have seen. You're always so respectful to the victims but you also deliver things as honestly as possible. I've been watching your channel for a few years now and you never disappoint. I hope it is totally okay that I used your disclaimer as a template for mine LOL. It's well written and thorough. It takes courage to even start to try and use your own voice (and face for many) to start talking about things they care about... So many trailblazers have opened the doors for us to walk through. Just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work over the years and your outstanding coverage on many cases.
Yeah, being intrigued as to how people could do these crazy things is WAY different then buying their portraits and hanging them up!
I and my 71-year-old Ma love your research and presentation. She's quite leery of UA-cam, but your channel is an exception. Thanks!
I love the psychology of crime. It has taught me so much about narcissism and red flags to look for in psychopaths.
That doesn’t mean I would use the information I have learned to harm someone else. That comes down to what is in someone’s heart.
OMG I watch true crime all the time and have no desire to hurt anyone. This woman was just Psycho...plain and simple.❤❤❤❤ LOVE YOUR SHOW ANNIE❤❤❤❤
Its not that plain or simple. Things impact people differently and it's important to acknowledge the various factors that contribute
Exactly I watch serial killers all the time and I have not killed one person
Sometimes bipolar is actually borderline personality disorderly who have the potential to be destructive
A lot of people who are bpd are sociopaths
Sounds like she was just a clear sociopath
@@melissagoode151 I come from England UK where this took place, this woman was a physco, she was also a manipulative, toxic person who took pleasure in using & even blackmailing those around her. That my friend is plain n simple.
I’m a psych np and I watch several youtubers who cover true crime. It isn’t because I find enjoyment in hearing about harm coming to others. It is because it helps me to see why people come to the decisions that they do. I especially like when I can learn a bit about the perps child hood and early life experiences. I like to see if I can put together a differential on the offender. Finally, I always consider my self (hopefully) part of a community that grieves for and with the affected families. You do good work Annie. Well done.
It doesn’t matter how many times I’ve heard of a case, when you upload it, I will watch it.
She was using "he was talking to another chick" as an excuse to kill Frankie. She is a total psycho,thank God her friend told on her. To have the gull to laugh and act like nothing is wrong with killing him is deranged. Let alone trying to make an alibi for herself and than asking her friend if they are still friends??? I'd say " of course" in fear if I'd said no she would try to kill me too because I know what she did!
a minor, he was talking to a minor.
I’ve been reading about serial killers since the 90’s and watch true crime all day at work. I enjoy horror movies etc. I am not a criminal nor do I have feelings of committing violence. grew up with an abusive alcoholic neglectful mother. anyways, I think you can’t broad stroke it. Each person needs to be treated individually.
Your history sounds scarily similar to mine. I guess with people like us you either fall into step with the alcohol-fuelled abuse yourself, or you spend most of your life and personal interests trying to figure out what on earth makes people do the things they willingly do to others.
So true!
Not everyone will have the same outcome but it's important to acknowledge the increased risk/impact that these events tend to have. That's how public health determinations happen. Treating people as individuals has a time and place but so does a broader perspective
Girl, don't justify our true crime interests... some people just here because we like to see bad people caught and innocent people set free.... you have a good perspective, glad you share it ❤
I’m so glad to see you’re back!😅
Toxic people are so scary…to live with! It’s very real and can be intensely draining! Take care everyone! ✌️
So true!
I live round the corner from where this all happened, scary to think someone is capable of such horrible things so close to home. Unfortunately this isn’t the only brutal murder happened in this area as 16 year old Louise Smith was murdered a few years ago also. Luckily both of the victims family have got justice, but both should still have their lives. Thank you for bringing awareness to this case. Everyone be safe out there!
I grew up in Leigh park but my home was in the warren. I've since moved 2 hours away from the area and do not regret that after this case. I was still living there at the time Louise Smith had been murdered and had walked through the same woods on the day she had been murdered and the offender had walked past my house after the murder. Definitely too close to home. I'm so glad these victims got justice. It's crazy to see horrible things happening in Leigh park and now seeing them become known. Ive had an interest in true crime for ages and there's no excuse for this horrible crime. I did a degree in criminal psychology and now work for the probation service. My whole life revolves around crime and I'm nothing like this person.
I have to say that I'm hooked on 10 to life. You do such a great job Annie! 👏 ❤
Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!!
You're welcome! I'm on your channel almost every day. BTW, hi from France 🇫🇷
I'm from the county of Hampshire, but thankfully a nice area of it. I've been to Portsmouth and it's no suprise this took place nearby. Leigh park is rough rough rough.
Omg at first I thought you were referring to me as a true crime lover and becoming desensitized and not empathetic. But after reading other comments here I really believe that the reason is to learn more and stay aware of red flags. I do feel sympathy for the crime committed on the victims, but I also try to understand why the perpetrators did what they did. It’s also not just true crime that I watch. I also watch court cases criminal and civil.
I do appreciate Annie you bringing this awareness as well. Seeing it from all angels is even better. All the best ❤❤
I think you said it really well. There’s definitely a line between informing others and telling cases with the utmost respect for victims and families, and using true crime for entertainment. At the end of the day people need to remember that someone has died tragically. These are horrible, uncomfortable topics, but often need to be spoken about, especially for cases that have gone cold and have no attention. I definitely think a lot of creators and consumers of true crime could stand to remember that instead of treating it like a fun little hobby.
Annie, you really are so VERY important to our society, exposing all of this very important and scary fact of other peoples lives.
All she is doing is reporting what has been said before and stringing every word out to make it look engrossing Shaye was a lovely young lady I not sure what went wrong
I believe in the Strange and Unusual and I think having framed photos of serial killers brings in evil energy in your home.
I agree. Crrrrreeppppy!
I absolutely agree! 💯
I agree, I display a "home" life... positive ĝvɓ for me AND my family. It really brings the best out of us ❤❤❤
I think that evil is already there who on earth frames bloody a sick serial killer who killed tons of women and a 12 year old!!!!!! Disgusting! This isn’t a red flag this is a bloody trooping of the colour red (British thing)
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I got into the true crime community because of grandma. I remember being 6 and she would play true crime at night then she would fall asleep and the tv be left on. She didn’t live in the best neighborhood and I was scared but got used to it and I started watching it on my own.
❤ I love your videos and have been with you for a few years!! You have helped me through some dark days. My husband passed away in October 2022!! So thank you for your amazing videos!! Much love from Florida. Please talk about aiden fucci sentencing!!!
Wow I am so sorry for your loss!! Aiden Fucci is coming this week. You know I have A LOT of thoughts
I know you do have a lot of thoughts, and I can’t wait to hear them!!! We all love you and value your opinion!!! I watched the sentencing and the parents of trystan are such amazing people!!!!
@@annieelise seriously cannot wait to hear your opinion on The Aiden Fucci sentencing, and all that went along with it..
I'm so sorry for you loss. My thoughts are with you ❤
@@suzannaarnold8604 so so sorry for your loss!!! Sending lots of love and light your way!
Annie, just want to say, I am obsessed with your videos! I love the way you present each case and your thorough research. Over this weekend I started watching your videos from the first one and my kids think I am becoming addicted to watching you😂. I am just amazed at the amount of sick and twisted people out there and especially those who harm children.
Please keep up the great work that you are doing.❤❤❤
This happened 10 minutes down the road from me! So scary. I’m a huge fan of yours Annie! ❤
I’ve noticed in these last few videos that your letting your goofy side show a little more and I love it! You seem like such a genuine person with a great sense of humor! I absolutely LOVE the coverage you give the families and how wonderful of a job you do covering these cases!
Just so you know I also had a Chucky doll and mayyyyy have used it to scared the neighbor kid. 🤣 keep up the good work!
Annie is so beautiful, and with her talent of telling true crime stories she deserves her own Netflix series
Agreed ❤
I second the Netflix series idea!
Stop simping. I lost count of how many posts the people put in these channels making the same thing.
all she is doing is reading off a script. anyone can do that. it’s too obvious especially in her voice and eyes.
@@anonymous44448 Were you expecting her to have it all memorized? She and her team put a lot of time into researching and writing so it's important that she's only reviewing facts instead of giving off-the-cuff opinions about this one thing she heard on the internet. You realize every journalist, news anchor, and documentary voice does the same thing, right?
I think for most of us, we are interested in what could possibly be behind the mind of someone who can carry out these horrific crimes, but we don’t idolize them. There’s a huge difference! I would say those of us who have an interest in psychology are going to be more fascinated in human complexities a little more then people who aren’t. There’s mystery behind these things and that’s always a draw for us. She must have just related to these murderers and maybe felt good learning about people that she understood to give her some validation. There’s definitely a difference.
Hi Annie Elise. You could tell by this killers appearance she was extremely personality disordered. I personally wouldn't have any involvement at all with someone who's that insane. You'd never ever be comfortable or safe around them. Love your channel & wishing you a happy spring season, peace & good vibes only, Janine Smiley✌👍☕🍩☕🍪🆒️💯❕❗🏡🚗🚘🌈🌚🎵🎶🆒️🇺🇸
07:30 in Portland, Oregon.. A cup of coffee and some true crime with Annie. Thank you for the outstanding commentary. ✌
I love watching this stuff because I've been hurt and abused so often that I want to figure out what makes people do these things. I've had to jump a 8ft fence to save my own life and I had no clothes on. So yeah I want to know why.
I have never heard of this case, wasn't a big thing here in the UK. Wonder why? It's sickening. Unfortunately, life in prison will probably only be around 20 years, our justice system is ridiculous. Best wishes, stay safe
It was well-known locally
So true 😕Our justice system is the same in the US I think they all are "broken" in some way.
It was also all over TikTok and Facebook. The video of the body cam footage of the police arresting her x
20 years wasn't a bad guess. She has to serve at least 23 years,(not quite life, is it?)
What a beautiful child she was! I have the same peculiar habit of watching true crime and serial killer shows but I am 64 years old and never hurt a soul!
I've always enjoyed True Crime stories and fictional crime as well- I am horrified at the actions and get an immense satisfaction when the criminals get caught and justice is dealt.
Keep doing what you are doing. 🎉
The way you tell a story shows all the effort you do on your research and as a 10 to lifer that means a lot and makes it so easy to follow you and the story you tell. Very much appreciated for all your hard work.
I've always been super into true crime. My mom and I were extremely close and she passed her love of true crime down to me. I think most of us are interested bc of the psychology of it all, and it is fascinating delving into the mind of a murderer. I'm not one of those ppl with "a favorite serial killer" bc they're bad ppl we don't need to idolize or worship.
I thnk you are Scorpio
I always watch true crime just to remind myself how dangerous we can be. I can be naive sometimes but true crime helps me stay alert
How on earth are her ex husband and roommate not charged as accessories after the fact? Mind blown 🤯
Because it’s the uk and they can’t be arsed
@Betty & Barney Hill please don't taint the whole of the UK with the same brush. It consists of 4 different countries, with 4 different police forces and 4 different sets of laws
@@emneeson yes I know .. o live in the one 🏴 .. The uk sentencing system is weak. 12 years on average for murder. Infanticide even less - it’s a joke!
By they I meant the law - not us Brits 😉
@@bettybarneyhill4289 I was more commenting on the fact that the other people weren't charged with being an accessory. In Scotland, we tend to charge anyone connected. I do agree with you on the length of sentencing. It's an absolute disgrace! It's something that really needs to be looked into and changed
@@emneeson Totally agree! It’s shocking how light sentences are. We need to follow the US. And for cases like Star, baby P and Arthur- they need the 💀 sentence IMO
Never heard of this case! What’s craxy is that it’s not too long ago and it had not been mentioned in the media. Instead we watch on social media and news about how big Kim Kardashians but is! This case is sad and scary at the same time. Wish you all a healthy life. Ty Annie❤
My brother or men I have known always got weirded out by my interest in true crime or dont get why women are the general audience. Personally and from interactions with fellow true crime fans (mostly women) we just want to be aware and have knowledge of such crimes because the victims in true crime are mostly women. Its great to know these things and what to watch out for should you god forbid end up in these situations. I have been stalked and close to being assaulted multiple times in my life and I am only in my 20s but learning about true crime has taught me to trust my gut and be aware of my surroundings. Also a lot of the times we learn about these cases and want justice for the families that is why I watch and listen to true crime. There is a difference between wanting those things and being a psychopath that uses true crime to understand oneself or be better at crime.
Yesss.!! My husband and my son act like I'm plotting to become a suspect because I watch so much true crime lol. It's not the same for most men because they're typically the ones committing the crimes
Male victims are catching up - this guy and Christian Olubselmi
Yea last time we went on a roadtrip and it was my turn to drive/control the radio. So of course I turn on true crime or actually it was Mr ballen (strange dark and mysterious stories not always crime), and my husband after an hour or 2 was like why do u want to listen to this, its just a bunch of people who died or crazy messed up stories...and I couldn't quite explain why lol. My mom was into true crime, when I was a kid I watched rescue 911 and unsolved mysteries religiously, when I started reading novels it was goosebumps and fear street and stephen king...if im picking the movie itll probably be horror or some type of survival drama...that type of stuff just has always been interesting to me 🤷♀️
True crime videos of all kinds have taught me how to be aware and safe to the best of my ability for many years now. I am also a survivor of indescribable PA growing up and I’m extremely compassionate, empathetic, and wouldn’t hurt a fly. So I’ve always wondered why some who share the same sort of childhood go right and some extremely left per say. It intrigues me why. I also am not on board with criminals blaming their pasts. We all have free will and choices
Whooohooo new video from Annie!!!! I look for new videos everyday! Thank you Annie for all that you do! You are amazing! I dont know how you manage mom, wife, full time job and youtube but I am so glad you do!!
Not taking away from anything she does, bc she is super woman, but I think she left her job to create content full-time 😊
I think due to COVID-19 lockdowns, Shaye's already unbalanced mental state just went further downhill. She became more dark and angry. I'm curious how Ashley felt about his daughter living in a home plastered with serial killers and weapons everywhere was a safe and healthy environment ? How was she financially able to survive ?
I feel so bad for her daughter, losing both mother and father. Truly heartbreaking, I hope they are giving that sweet child a lot of therapy.
No, the child's bio father is alive.
The child is much better off without a mother like this, if we can even call her a mother as she didn't spend much time being one.
Her daughters father isn’t dead or in prison ?
There is a huge difference between liking true crime and idolizing killers. I have never liked or admired those monsters
Oh, Annie, you never cease to post a video right when I need it! I'm snuggled up in bed and wanted a new true crime video to watch and boom! Here you are! Lol Thanks for all your hard work! ❤
You had a Chucky doll and I have a coffin shaped shelf in my skull room. I love watching true crime just not committing them lol
A 9 am coffee with Annie? Happy Monday to me ❤️
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Same here!
I was about to post something like this! 🫶
Love that!
I’m from just over the water from Portsmouth and this case was hardly covered on our news stations.
I've learned to becareful what you see with your eyes and hear with your ears. This is why I take a break from any negativity (not because I would be tempted to murder), but for me... I have serious anxiety and have traumatic nightmares when I watch too much evil. Mental illness and trauma is a real thing and our mind is like a computer and we receive messages through these gateways subsonciously, which we can control through self awareness and self-control.
Nobody's fault, just unfortunately some people are mentally ill or even evil that can use anything to feed it.
Love your channel x
Good on you for that opening statement. It is really important to know. I know, for me, it's time to step away when cases start to make me actually cry, like sob. Then I take a break from it. Personally, I've had conflicting feelings about my interest in true crime. I don't want to be "entertained" as such, by the horrific things that have happened to real people. On the other hand, I think it can be a very useful tool for understanding people, behaviours, motives, the journeys and events in people's lives that lead them to those dark places, and an opportunity to pray for all the people affected by these criminals and their heinous acts. So I appreciate your opening statement, because even though true crime is like your bread and butter, you still gave really good points for people to think about that may cause them to stop watching your channel. So I just think that shows a lot of integrity. Thanks again for your hard work.
I do admit I sometimes over watch true crime, I use it as a study guide to be aware of my surroundings and it can make me paranoid at times😅 but she went too far😳
I make pictures from true crime to decorate my house too only not about the killers but victims or their families that touch my heart in one way or the other
My favorite is a poem by Phoebe Handsjuk:
"A bird trapped behind tall glass,
flying into its own reflection
Blood stained feathers,
a broken wing
Wait, wait
for the pain of new feathers
breaking the surface of delicate skin
Wait, wait
You will fly again Spring is here Freedom is near"
I'm fascinated by true crime too (probably to an extent most people besides you guys would consider a little excessive) but it would never occur to me to physically hurt or kill anybody. I once read that people who have been victims of violence themselves can become strangely drawn to the subject, which tallies with my own experience. I was once a victim of a very brutal SA. My interest in true crime is I feel "normal" because I always feel empathy for the victims in most of these stories, coupled with intense curiosity about what motivates the perpetrators . Does that make sense?
Yes you want to know why the perps do these things they do, but you can also empathize with the victims bc as awful as it is you can relate, so I think it’s totally normal to be interested in it, just take care of yourself also
@@Bootyjuice.. You said it better than I did. Cheers, bootydevil
I feel you, I wasn't able to do anything but thanks God, I escaped. I wish I could learn why this person did it and I feel relief knowing the many cases the guilty people no longer can hurt any one.
Great job Annie, you are wonderful at what you !! This case is way out there, I can’t even wrap my head around it!!❤❤❤
I've never said WTF out loud so many times watching a video. Framed photos of serial killers... WTF?!
Maybe my ears are too sensitive but I thought the beeeeps were really loud and made me jump up every single time 😂🙈 Also, I think an important takeaway from this case is that while the vast majority of us true crime viewers/listeners are highly unlikely to be turned into killers by our interest in crime, I think it's good to check oneself and maybe go on a "crime detox" every now and again. Personally I've been feeling how it's been affecting my anxiety a bit lately, but I find it hard to stop watching my favorite true crime UA-camrs because it feels like I'm letting them down 😐🙈
You're so right about everyone needing a crime detox occasionally!! Don't feel like you're letting down your favorite tc UA-camrs, you can always come back and watch when you're feeling like you're in the right place again! 😁 Mr ballen does this thing with his UA-cam videos and discord channel where he has a section for "top ten crazy stories/mysteries" and "places you can't go but people went anyway" and things like that, for people who need a true crime detox but still want to show support! I think that's such a brilliant idea and more UA-camrs need to implement that! ♥️
No they are super loud 🤣 it's really bad weather here in southern Louisiana and I thought I was getting bad weather alerts at first.
@@alex.tagspot oh that sounds really interesting!! Yeah sometimes I feel like I'd be fine with just someone telling me an interesting story that's not necessarily crime related at all, but I feel like these are harder to find. I should definitely check that out!
@@chelseathibodeaux7029 omg 😂😂 I first thought something was wrong with my laptop haha
@@alex.tagspot I did wonder where those vids came from, they seemed super random when they popped in my sub list. Makes total sense though
my overconsumption of true crime just tells me the kinds of people to be aware of and to not commit any crimes
The culmination of events & the escalation of their ‘preferences’ was a disaster waiting to happen really. You could see it wasn’t going to end well. She needs help & to be honest I don’t know how her friend lived with her!!! I would be too scared.
I’m obsessed with true crime. In no way shape or form does it hinder or change the way I think-negatively. If anything I become smarter, more aware. It’s relaxing to me 🤗😊
Thank you for All your hard work as Always!
******ANNIE, Please look at this new case*****Macombs, Michigan. Bio parents starve 2 year old to death!! Both parents( if you can call them that) were arranged on 1 million dollar bonds. I would love to hear you deep dive in this case and see all the red flags🚩🚩. Apparently, the little boy was in foster care and was thriving, prior to being placed back with the 2 defendants in this case.
If you read this, will you please give it a thumbs up so Annie will see this. Thanks
Time for me to go I guess....I have a whole ass room filled with serial killer memorabilia 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️😂
That’s so crazy like I can see how violent content can make us harder and desensitize us but I feel the opposite. I’ve become even more empathetic, more sensitive, more careful and just an all around better human of society after getting into true crime years ago. I can see how this type of thing could totally do the opposite for someone else though especially someone with mental health issues. I do have depression and anxiety myself so I can say it does make me sad listening to these stories sometimes.
I really appreciate that 10 to Life plus my other favorite true crime channels make a conscious effort to focus on the victims and clearly shame the perpetrators. We should all try to forget the murderers' names while honoring and remembering the victims.
You should look at the case if Logan Mwangi. It’s completely heartbreaking. Also in the UK. Worth learning about just to see the narcissism present in everyone involved. Also, pronounced Keltic. Spelled Celtic, hard K sound. Most Irish & Scottish names are K sounds, spelled with C. Like Cillian (killian). Lots more examples though.
Yep. It's only really pronounced Celtic (Seltic) when talking about Celtic Football Club in Scotland
You forgot about us Welsh, 🏴the oldest of the celts. 😳
Your glowing! Your latest videos, really show, your talent of connecting with the audience!
Beautiful job❤❤❤❤
I've been fascinated with true crime since I was 6 years old. Particularly because (Idk why.....having raised my own 5 kids) I was allowed to watch the first Ted Bundy movie called The Deliberate Stranger when I was 6 years old. Fast forward 1 year and a man tried to abduct me omw to school and I remembered Ted Bundy and ran like hell. I've been fascinated with the Psychology of criminal behavior ever since.
But some people are just not good people, unfortunately.
Hey Annie - thank you very much for covering this story, you did an awesome job and your research is amazing! Best wishes 🇬🇧
Love you and what you do!! You're amazing, I look forward to new videos every week ❤
True crime makes you cautious and aware. It also makes you very sad for the people who are just like yourself, but fell victim to these so called people. If you are a normal person anyway.
I am interested in true crime. Not from the perspective of being fascinated with "killers" but because I feel like by hearing these stories I can learn the warning signs and protect myself better. I will say I've never owned a Chucky Doll but I don't think that holds much weight in this conversation 😂
I'm just making my way through these videos and I live about 10 minutes away from havant in Hampshire! great video
There’s a very large difference between “I’m interested in true crime” and “I love true crime”. Be sure you’re the former.
She was a cold blooded killer. My mother used to call me macabre for my interest in dark life matters. I went on to a career in Embalming. Never have I ever been influenced by anything I’ve seen or heard to think of harming a living soul! We only get one life..
I think in order to be a cold-blooded murderer, it’s already in you. I get being desensitized by certain things, but if you see something insane in real life, a normal response would be fear, you’d be horrified, disgusted etc. I could be wrong, but it’s how I feel.
5 minutes in and I'm horrified anyone would have pictures of serial killers on their wall! Rose West?? Are you kidding me? I remember that case so well and it broke our nation's heart 😔
I love you Annie! That's pretty funny you had a Chucky doll! Not everyone becomes a serial killer though right by being influenced by such a dark presence? But what is wrong with people these days? It's terrifying what's going on in the world and society. But thanks for making me laugh. I just began chemotherapy and I ache everywhere and the fact that you can make me laugh is huge and maybe this sounds odd but it's comforting. Love your videos and thank you for your kindness and your time.
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May God hold you in His healing arms. May you feel comfort and peace as you continue treatment.
Only 23 years !!..
This case and cases similar to this should be LIFE SENTENCE in all countries.
Calling your partner the name of your ex is not a "Big NONO" it happens by error. The gudge telling her she is not a monster is plain insane, she is a monster and I can't believe a judge gives execuses to a cold bloded killer what place on earth is this.
I love Annie she cracks me up, "I should take self inventory for owning a Chucky doll when I was young, that's a lil' weird," she says of herself! 🤣
Annie is great. Very well spoken and intelligent young woman. I enjoy listening to her, she knows how to engage you into each story. She makes everything easy to understand and visualize.
I wonder if it is not so much that watching and researching these things pushed her over the edge, as much as she wanted to hurt / kill and so she watched and researched these true crimes. She was already the person that she was before she decided to dive right in with the obsession.
My ex a couple of times shared on social media about ted bundy’s thoughts on women and that was all. I slowly let him go. Thank you Annie for the awareness.
Yay new 10 to Life ❤
you're just so good at putting your thoughts into words. So glad there are women doing true crime justice and also not over fetishizing the topic.
There are definitely some serial killer fanwhores who pop up in a Facebook page that I'm a member of. They not only have all the merchandise with the faces of various serial killers, they collect stuff that belonged to killers. They also have tattoos of killers adorning there bodies prominently. These freaks aren't just interested in true crime, it is their entire persona. It's only a matter of time before some of these people end up taking their obsession to far, just like Shey did.
Very scary!
@@judymurray191 they think it's normal to glorify these murderers and see nothing offensive about doing so. Weirdo freaks basically.