So joy job let's hear you talk about how she is the first overall pick to be left off the team in a Olympic year! Why don't you type in your WNBA STATS on your little computer? Clark is number 14 ahead of you guessed it Diana Taurasa. Ooops
ONCE AGAIN WHY DID THEY PUT ALL THE NUMBER 1 OVERALL PICKS ON THE OLYMPIC TEAM WHEN IT WAS AN OLYMPIC YEAR??? QUESTION IS FOR YOUR GUY TO YOUR LEFT ALSO? HATERS IS WHAT YOU 2 ARE, PERIOD!! DONE WITH THIS CHANNEL AND THERE IS ONLY 1 REASON ANYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE
Hey Joy, ever hear of Derek Rose, Greg Oden, Jay Williams? One injury and your done, son...talk to Joe Theisman or Daryl Stingley's son, if the cheap shots continue as the refs allow, CC will get low bridged and it's over. So don't tell me wait 4, 8, or 12 years.
Clark is the best player in the league.Straight up,and this is not a white guy saying this.I am Mexican and we can all see that all of you are discriminating Caitlin Clark, and it is plain and simple and it is sickening to listen to you all.
I'm from the Philippines, I watch the NBA and didn't know anything about WNBA until Caitlin Clark. She had an impressive college career; the organization is making a mistake not taking the opportunity to capitalize Clark's popularity right now.
@@corneilMadison-hs3vs just because we started watching the WNBA because of one person doesn’t mean anything. It’s always someone who brings eyeballs to what they are doing that someone else has done. Just like Jordan brought new eyes to the NBA, now some Been fans since the dream team.
@@Degen.Youth24that is such a stupid saying. You don’t even know what being woke means. It means not being ignorant of all the injustices that go on around us. Opening your eyes to what is happening. And it’s the Karen’s screaming at a taco bell employee who get fired and go broke.
Diana Taurasi had slightly worse results, as a rookie in 2004, and was selected for the Olympic team. The argument is thin to say she doesn’t belong on the team. If they REALLY picked the “best” twelve players, four or five of those ladies wouldn’t have made that team.
Catlins numbers are better than Diana. Brittney has only played one game, still injured. Chelsea Gray injured, hasn't played a game this season. 12 best, yeah right.
@@choncyterry5374 remember lebron didn't have any accomplishments as a winner until 10 years into his career he didnt win in college didnt play nba didnt win until 10th year highschool he dominated but so did shaun livingston because of their hieght
The problem is take those players out she still wouldn’t make it. These women were already working out and practicing for this, they’ve been there they know how this works. Caitlin is mad fragile right now she still learning her way through the W and you want her to play in the Olympics?!?! Please. Let this woman work her way through the W first see if she can hold up to that physicality. It’s like they won’t let her grow. Then her coach put CC quote out there only for her to get totally locked by Carrington again
One minute Joy was saying they only bring the 12 best players and the next minute she says this is not about the best 12 players it’s about creating a team 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 makes no sense
Right😂every CC video. Her n Molly, get em their 2 innings and one AB. Only dudes watch we barely listen, they start talkin meanwhile Molly has no clue she’s standing up on the desk grabbing her ankles
These girls really think that everyone is watching because of the WNBA haha they don't understand that CC playing more eyes get a taste they might want to watch more games
@@Mid.night1000rrSo, you didnt watch the game tonight? Why is the TRURH so frightening? CC just arrived at the pro level sleepover. She does not get the master bedroom. CC stans wants CC to get a free ride...a free ring..stan bragging rights...NOPE,,, earn it!!! Shady is clearly shucking and jiving. His commentary is extreme and HE doesn't even believe it..? Speak needs ratings.😂😂😂
@@Mid.night1000rr This is a bad assumption. People watching only for one player and are not seriously interested in basketball are not going to drive the WNBA to sustained growth.
You completely ignored the big picture. Building a TEAM! You’re looking at chemistry. These girls have won 7 golds in a row. These girls have chemistry and know how eachother play. Like if you and I played basketball since we were kids and we get in HS. Ima know how you play. Because we played together for a long time. We practiced together, played games together and built a chemistry. Diana dosent have the points but she has the leadership, experience and chemistry. CC, Reese and Brink I guarantee will all be on the next one if not the next👏🏽🙌🏽.
Amazed she does not know what Tiger did for the purses in golf which was already a big deal. He exploded with the viewership as Caitlin seems to be doing now.
This is the woke women's only taking point right now. No one cares about them winning another Gold , we want to be entertained and rarely ngs are everything, but that's why the wnba will stay broke with this stupid mentality
Not a winner like him but is attracting a huge new audience. The 12 best lady players together have not filled up an NBA sized stadium in 17 Years while this girl did in DC.!!!!
I get thinking business but there is a better future to protect here. Those women are completely hateful of CC for getting more than them and not proving or earning anything yet. CC is not even the best player on her team. Its Boston, she's a beast.
@@ronniejohnson196 yeah like having the best rookie ever on the roast for even garbage minutes is going to prevent them from winning, it's not like they are unbeaten since the 90s... oh wait
@@francariglino First thing 1st> Is for what the US Team Want's. Second thing>"best rookie ever" Yet to be determined. Personally, I didn't start watching WNBA or Girls/Womens BB with CC. Peace...
The elephant in the room that no one is talking about... Gray has yet to play a game all season, and she got selected. BS on that "Best Player" argument. Anyone who picks an injured player over a healthy player, has snubbed every healthy player available.
lol crazy thing is is no one is commenting on this comment thats crazy because they dont actually watch the wnba still just highlights or the want to see her fail i seen comments about how she hasnt won anything but when i asked what lebron won before going they couldnt give a reply because its marketing a race that grew the wnba lol nobody really wants to watch them do 80 point games in todays era its just what it is
I disagree with the snubbing every healthy player argument Not all healthy players are good or necessarily a better option than a player at 25%.. obviously not talking about Caitlin Clark
Because the nba players subsidize them and they don't have sell tickets. They are so confident they'll get more money if they just keep crying patriarchy, misogyny... that instead a raise with the increased money from Clark's popularity they chose airplane rides l
The WNBA was selling tickets before Caitlin Clark to people who are fans of the game. These people now are CC fans and if she doesn't live up to the hype they will move on anyway.
Lmao didn’t drake kick the mystics out of there own home stadium because he was doing a concert at capital one , I don’t think that would be allowed if WNBA was selling out . And the nba is literally paying for the existence of the wnba
@@mikee3261 The WNBA has NEVER been operated at a profit. That means that if things were natural. It would not even exist talk less about having discussions about pay.
I don't want to hear one more word about the women's game not getting the same marketing opportunities that the men do, I don't want to hear anything more about low salaries.
@@ggaitheriiagreed, Magic and Bird were there to grow the game globally which they were successful at. If the WNBA doesn’t stop with their BS they will fail to grow the game.
Why does no one know USA got 7 or 8 or 9 gold medals in a row in women's basketball? Because no one saw it!!! If Caitlin Clark was on the team... I would watch the games!!!!!
Also Cardoso and Brink. Griner can't even walk right now and Taurasi is 42 years old. Another two could drop from age and injury recovery as well and wouldn't be missed on Team USA.
So don’t get mad when your max salary is 250k. Olympics is not every year, is every 4 year, they just miss the opportunity to introduce caitlin to the world man.. basketball is an international sport, fans are worldwide. Asia, europe, fans everywhere wanna see caitlin
@@hollo7906Well I am from Canada 🇨🇦 and I started watching the WNBA due to Caitlin Clark!!!!!! I have 0 desire to watch the female U.S. Olympic Basketball team w/out her on it!!!!! And I can tell u, I am FAR FROM being the only Canadian that started to watch the WNBA b/c we heard about C.C balling 🏀 in her College yrs!!!!!!
@@hollo7906 That's the point. You really are hollow, cause the point flew right past you. Nobody cares about Women's basketball. But because of Caitlyn they are starting to care now. So get her the spotlight she needs to show off to the world. It's literally how every other sport blew up, NBA, NFL, etc.
@@ronniejohnson196So you're saying that experience matters? So the best move would be to leave Dinosaur Taurasi at home and get a younger player experience so that it pays off next time.
@@jek4837 Troll or not, I appreciate your opinion, even though the derogatory choice of words used kinda makes me wonder, although> "get a younger player experience," seems valid, nevertheless, in reality the worldwide focus from Global Mass Media, has created SuperStar Like attention with positive and Negative implications. Indeed; So much So that in Reality, that It exposes the economic, ethnic, racial and social undertones of structures that prolong divisions in Society. IOW>The Caitlin Clark Phenomenon with All the implications; Means that Her appearance(Do To No Fault Of Her Own) would be more of a distraction than a benefit, for the attention needed for the team as a Whole(Including Caitlin) to focus on The Objective>Win The 8th US Olympics Gold Medal In A Row. Peace...
@@ronniejohnson196 they don’t need her experience they would win with or without her, every game is going to be a blowout. What they need is star power.
@@ianspruce595 oh, she’s proven already😒🤷🏽♂️ thought it was gonna be someone else. She’s better than Caitlin right now so I wouldn’t replace her for Caitlin.
@@sylvestermorgan2384 Olympics doesn’t start until July 🤷🏽♂️ plenty of time to heal and get ready to play. Plus the exhibition games, use those games to get her rhythm going
@@bradenhazle4378 Yeah, not like the Olympics has companies that pay billions to advertise there?? Or bring money and drives traffic to the city it's taking place in??? You must be a genius lol
AND the girl who can’t even play because she’s injured is supposedly better. How??!! She can’t even play!! 😂😂😂 somebody gotta be paying them they can’t be this dumb
@@FalconsZone6 but still more points, but now do Rebounds and Assist🧐 And DT definitely ain’t seeing the defenses that CC is and yeah still better than a 42 year old
Even if we take 2 people off CC still isn't making it lol. DT brings leadership, experience, and toughness. She has a few team mates on the team so chemistry already exists.
@@jdixon1922the point is if she deserves to make it in the future your racist a$$ would make another point as to why she shouldn’t make the team again. We peep your hate game so stop trying to mask it 😂😂😂
I’m frustrated by people constantly asserting that she will have a long career and play in the Olympics, as if it’s a certainty. In sports, nothing is guaranteed. A career-ending injury could happen at any moment, just like it did for Greg Oden. I find it difficult to keep listening to these unrealistic expectations.
Same!! Omg. The narrative that she’s the key to growing the game is tired too. She’s a scorer and can do it from deep. Lovely, great… but let’s at least acknowledge that she was chosen by the media… for money! not to grow the WNBA as a whole.
@@Moneymattas she may have been chosen, but it was because she could actually ball. It’s a fact that she broke all those records. From what I’ve seen from highlights, she can do more than score. Her passing skills are pretty good.
And this is the taboo no one's allowed to break. While people watch those games only because of the brilliance of Clark on the court. But no, she can't be better than those lumbering giraffes and petty thugs.
Imagine if Kobe said, "Naw young buck, I'm playing in 6 straight Olympics. You don't get a chance." That's was Diana Taurasi is doing. She won 5 gold medals and is 41 years old. That's 24 years. Catty much?
@@LKS-M9323 you have no clue what you are talking about. Kobe went to 2 Olympics. Lebron went to 3. Lebron could have went for the same amount as Diana but chose not to. The vets give the younger gen a chance to win a gold and promote themselves internationally.
You don't know what in the world are you talking about, because when Kobe didn't go, they were losing, finishing with the Bronze 🥉 but when he played, they won the Gold 🥇
Same thing Alex Morgan does with the USWNT soccer, she hardly scores anymore and just prances around the field doing nothing taking playing time from the young stars......Women run off emotions instead of intelligence at times, of course also that crab in the bucket mentality......Does this really surprise anyone that these old heads are trying to hold on to their former glory?!
The women have been playing and winning. What has that done for their biggest complaint, money? They have won every basketball gold medal. Where is the money?
Exactly. Golf was big but Tiger blew up the interest. in a few years the 100 tour player was making a million. People tuned in for Tiger now for Caitlin.
If Joy doesn't want to talk about ratings, growing the sport, or the women's players making more money she can never complain about those things ever again
I cannot listen anymore to these braindead, nauseating points by joy. Turasi or Griner are not one of the 12 best either. So stop it with that argument. its not like she is a scrub either. She is 13th in scoring and 4th in assists per game and her stats after 12 games are just as good if not better than Turasis first 12 games as a rookie and she was on the team.
Taurasi and Stewie played on the USA based on their college resumes, because they didin't have a pro resume. Doesn't CC's college resume count for something?
The 12 best players argument is so weak. Diana Taurasi is not top 12 right now. Even on the mens team it’s not the best 12. Shady McCoy nailed it. Acho debunked that 12 best flimsy argument.
@@petefoster8698 Lol it’s not about the media frenzy. Skip was just blatantly hating on LBJ, while Joy is saying CC is a great hooper but didn’t earn being on the US team. There’s no hate in saying that.
@@edwardt7364 Well, here is something that isn't even close. When Caitlin plays, millions of people watch. When Diana plays, you can hear crickets chirping because no one has bothered to watch her in over 20 years.
Shady is the only one who understand it . . . This isn’t a hard concept. And the girl keeps killing her own argument, first it was “she’s not the best 12”, then she goes to “they are building a team” . . . Which one is it? Again this isn’t hard, tell em Shady.
Joy says “You think people will show up to see her in the warmups?” YES! Stadiums sold out when Messi joined Miami even when he wasn’t on the field. They just want to see Messi, even it was on the bench. Even the MLS understands how to market and grow the league.
She meant it's hard for her. She's got all these years in the business and still can't understand that Olympic viewership will translate to WNBA viewership and purchases of merchandise. She really thinks they're 2 separate entities.... and then 2min later she says the Dream Team inspired global fandom and progressed the NBA
Sickening? Why? Because of the messenger? Her job is totally different. People like herself are the ones that indeed worry about ratings. The job of team USA is to get a gold. Thus… ratings is someone else’s problem.
That lady straight up hating “The men’s team didn’t grow because of Cristian L., it grew because of the superstars, the star names” -_____- contradicting her entire argument
@itsruffoutchea6636 She made the finals and broke the the record for most points scored.. She would have lit the Olympics on fire jacking 3s and going on the break...
@@itsruffoutchea6636You don’t think it’s more impressive to lead a team of nobodies to back-to-back natty appearances than a player on a super team winning one that everybody expected to win?
Claiming a player in Chelsea Gray, who has not played a single game this entire season, is a better player to be on the USWNT roster over Clark is ridiculous. There might have been an argument if two players on the USWNT haven't only played one game combined between Griner and Gray all season.
@guccigucci676 The operative phrase would be "before she got hurt." If you're claiming to only take the best players is the argument a player returning from serious injury would not meet the criteria for forming the roster.
@sammastersful If she hasn't played a single game all season due to injury, the argument she's the best player to be on the roster over another healthy player is ridiculous. You do recognize injuries hinder athletes' ability to play at the peak level of potential, which is what is being argued here for her to be deserving of her spot on the USWNT roster, all the time.
@sammastersful I never questioned her talent, simply the reasoning she deserves a spot on the Olympic roster not being in playing shape as it stands now merely weeks out from the Olympics.
I think more so that he was right and not trying to throw it in their face. I think this was more of a “who am I working with moment” that they don’t get you can put together a great team and the best marketing opportunity. And why would the best team even be a part of the conversation if they are already leaving off other players that are better than legacy players
@@LKS-M9323 I mean, you can disagree with his opinion and say he’s wrong, your reasons would probably be correct. What I was focusing on was when Joy was talking about Christian Laettner and how Shady pointed out what she was saying wasnt analogous. And you can hear the inflection in his voice change, almost like he’s surprised he found himself on the right side of an argument without Acho having to bail him out
Correct best thing for Caitlyn to get much needed rest, which she would not get if she was on Olympic team. Now wasn’t there a young lady from UConn play on the Olympic team her rookie year…Previously, four WNBA rookies - Rebecca Lobo in 1996, Diana Taurasi in 2004, Candace Parker in 2008 and Breanna Stewart in 2016 - have been selected for Team USA's Olympic rosters, while Christian Laettner made the 1992 'Dream Team' roster as an NBA rookie. 🤔
These women in the WBNA and even media pundits are SOOOO jealous of Caitlin Clark. It’s crazy. Clark deserves to be on the team. Even coming off the bench. She’s a 3 point expert.
@@bigman7570 Yes and he was a 1st round exit...next! Diana's averaging 17pts and 5 rebounds and less turnovers than Bron and CC and has the career to back her up with overall team camaraderie. 🤡
Well u could use this same argument on lebron James me personally let the dam hype die down she's only 22 there's plenty of time for her Olympics games.
It's not that man, but she always says it's an entertainment business and now it's flipping clark has better numbers than plum and the goat, but they in. The NBA put names in the Olympics to grow their sports, latner, magic and bird at their end of their careers, if my memory serves me right Larry was on one leg because of the name. This is an opportunity to help the ladies grow their pockets and it was fail. I didn't even know the ladies Olympic women's team has won 7 straight up until this topic one player isn't going to ruin that win streak.
Shady should have said: youre right. Its not their job to grow the game, its their job not to mess it up while it is growing already. And on this they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Update: I was wrong on this. If you go to the usa basketball website mission statement page, it says their mission is promoting, growing and elevating the game at all levels. It is also their mission to increase participation and promote safe and fun environments. So Shady is 100% correct and joy is wrong.
And his stardom that kept some other greats off like Isiah. The WNBA doesn’t get for the same reason Joy doesn’t get it, the WNBA player hating on Caitlin don’t get it. They are delusional. Kylie donating that money and them not supporting him when he was going through it is wild. He is their dad paying their light bills
@@nonamewillbegiven2412 Both can be true. Isiah hunting Jordan caused his own demise but you are missing the point in that the NBA went with the best marketing plan and "relative best team that made mike happy". In that case, people wanted to see Mike so they gave him the power to control roster. Where you and Joy are missing the point is people only want "the idea of Caitlin" she doesnt have to play or dictate anything other than having her name on the roster. That would be enough to maximize marketing and put "relative best product" in that it would not really hurt their competitiveness same as leaving Isiah off team did.
Diana Taurasi - Drafted 2004 (18.3 ppg 3.4 ast first 12 games)--- made the olympic team in 2004 . Candace Parker (16.8 ppg 4.1 ast in first 12 games) - Drafted in 2008 -- made the olympic team in 2008 , Breanna Stewart drafted in 2016 -- 16.3 ppg 2.9 ast (first 12 games) made the olympic team in 2016. And then you have Caitling clark with similar stats if not better ( 16.8 ppg and 6.3 ast in first 12 games) But she is not selected. Somehow, now, USA needs experience and the best 12 , and a team of players who know each other. Apparently not in 2004, 2008 nor in 2016.
Laettner was a decent player but if they wanted to put a college player on the team it obviously should've been SHAQ. Yeah, Laettner was a great white hope.
Laettner was a serial winner (21-2 in NCAA Tournament games), one of the great big game players in college history. Sheq was a loser until he hooked up with Kobe and Jackson late in his career.
@@RayManzarekRocks Laettner won one NCAA title. Shaq won four NBA titles. One NBA title equals three NCAA titles so Shaq essentially was 12 times the winner that Laettner ever was.
@@keenannorris3309Laettner won TWO national championships (1991, 1992) and was runner-up for a third (1990). While he was there, Duke won 83 percent of its regular-season games and 91 percent (21-2) of its NCAAA Tournament games. Shaq didn't win jack in college or the pros until he hooked up with Kobe and Jackson later in his career.
I am a filipino, I Never watched WNBA before,but when i saw this girl CATLIN CLARK how good she was,then i started watching wnba because of her.she is a GOAT.
True, plus if the Olympic team loses, then its going to go back to if cc would have made a difference, which ultimately is still a win for the qnba because all eyes would still be on them
Joy is usually on point, but it seems like she's in her feelings here. It feels like she's legitimately angry at the thought of Caitlin Clark making the Olympic team.
Joy is always full of herself and wrong, she dissed the 49ers last year said they wouldn't make it to the Super Bowl and of course dead wrong as usual, she sucks as an analyst
THIS IS NOT ABOUT CC BEING A ROOKIE AND HERE’S PROOF: DAWN STALEY FIRST WENT TO THE OLYMPICS IN 1996, BEFORE ENTERING THE DRAFT IN 1999. DIANA TAURASI WENT TO THE OLYMPICS IN HER ROOKIE YEAR IN 2004. TAURASI ROOKIE SEASON AVERAGE: 17-4.4-3.9.
It's just pure jealousy. Stewart and Taurasi made the roster as rookies there should be no excuse to leave her out. They all jealous because she is more popular and has the gaze of hoops fans you can even see how Joy talks about her. They absolutely don't like her
It's Agenda they are trying to push. CC is not ready. She is only a 3 point shooter. I don't see anything else special about her. In college she lost. She didn't bring her team a championship. Bunch of nonsense
@@bleak83These three examples were champions. Taurasi won 3 chips in college. Stewie was 4 for 4 in college chips. Parker won 2 chips. You also left out Rebecca Lobo who also won a chip on a 35-0 team. That’s the difference. All those examples won in college on top of sweeping the same awards, and they won their final college game as well. If Clark got one of those chips in the last two years she would have been the 5th rookie. Kelsey Plum is the record she broke. Kelsey Plum played for Washington where she put up record breaking numbers that were since surpassed by Clark. She didn’t win in College either, this is her first year on the team in 7 years. They left her off as well even though she had crazy stats coming into the league. Plum wasn’t even allowed to shoot her first three years, she was held back then they let her be her. Clark got the green light. Clark won nothing in high school, and won nothing in college. You got to win at some point if you talked about the way she is talked about.
Can't believe the other players wouldn't band together and riot that she's not on the squad. Like they should want more money, but alright no one is going to take them seriously anymore if they talk about getting paid better.
What's hard to understand about ratings lol?? 1. You have a marketable product 2. You show and make that marketable product available 3. People tune in and buy the product 4. You get ratings
😂 she basically saying don’t worry about ratings(views) worry more about winning but if you not trying to get ratings then who is watching you win a gold? 😂😂 when women speak emotionally it never makes sense ever
She is not speaking emotionally. Dare I say that people all over the world will be tuned in to watch the Olympics. Maybe you were not aware of this. With that being said even if viewership was low, winning a gold medal period and legitimately being able to say you are the best in the world is more important than viewership or popularity.
I disagree, this is about Business!!! You have to have her on this team period. Give the fans what they want, they are the ones paying these players pay checks.
From Canada,I started watching women’s basketball because of Caitlin Clark. Maybe they need to put together an all star team of college players. I think N B C is concerned about the ratings
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So joy job let's hear you talk about how she is the first overall pick to be left off the team in a Olympic year! Why don't you type in your WNBA STATS on your little computer? Clark is number 14 ahead of you guessed it Diana Taurasa. Ooops
Y y'all won't recap Boston game🤣🤣🤣🤣🍀🍀🍀🍀💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
why didnt u cover the real reason she was left out the usa team because fear of cc fan reaction .
ONCE AGAIN WHY DID THEY PUT ALL THE NUMBER 1 OVERALL PICKS ON THE OLYMPIC TEAM WHEN IT WAS AN OLYMPIC YEAR??? QUESTION IS FOR YOUR GUY TO YOUR LEFT ALSO? HATERS IS WHAT YOU 2 ARE, PERIOD!! DONE WITH THIS CHANNEL AND THERE IS ONLY 1 REASON ANYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE
Hey Joy, ever hear of Derek Rose, Greg Oden, Jay Williams? One injury and your done, son...talk to Joe Theisman or Daryl Stingley's son, if the cheap shots continue as the refs allow, CC will get low bridged and it's over. So don't tell me wait 4, 8, or 12 years.
Because of this, I just learned that the USA women's basketball team has won seven consecutive gold medals.
lmaooo same
Same here 😂.
I was gonna care but with Caitlin not playing.. I won’t. Again.
Clark is the best player in the league.Straight up,and this is not a white guy saying this.I am Mexican and we can all see that all of you are discriminating Caitlin Clark, and it is plain and simple and it is sickening to listen to you all.
Right! Me Too!
@@juanespinosa8064she isn’t close
Isn't Joy the one that always says that this is a business and entertainment 😂
🤔🫣🤫🫢
Not Olympics WNBA is
It's Olympics smart guy
@@play030 The mens team usa has done it with Jordan, Laettner and some other players.
@@play030which the majority of us dont care about, all the more reason they shouldve focused on the entertainment aspect of it
Before watching we know what Joy’s gonna say😅
Same 😂
Yup
Surprisingly she doesn’t think it’s disrespectful 😂
Facts 😂😂😂
Some foolishness as usual
I'm from the Philippines, I watch the NBA and didn't know anything about WNBA until Caitlin Clark. She had an impressive college career; the organization is making a mistake not taking the opportunity to capitalize Clark's popularity right now.
No they ain't I been watching since Lisa Leslie not y'all bandwagon folks
I live in Atlanta and didn't even know we had a WNBA team, Atlanta Dream, until Caitlin Clark.
@@corneilMadison-hs3vsyou must be the only one. You do need bandwagons, that’s revenue…
Team WNBA beat Team USA enough said!!! World would of rather of seen Team WNBA than Team USA 😂😂😂
@@corneilMadison-hs3vs just because we started watching the WNBA because of one person doesn’t mean anything.
It’s always someone who brings eyeballs to what they are doing that someone else has done. Just like Jordan brought new eyes to the NBA, now some Been fans since the dream team.
Its so odd how women hate on other women and keep em down even-though it would help their league and expanding the brand.
Clark doesn't have the complexion or the sexuality for the woke media to get behind her
Or maybe they're just competitors. You act like male athletes be shaking pom-poms for their competition.
@@soda8736what have Clark won
@@choncyterry5374 viewership.. isn't that what professional sport entertainment is all about?
@@choncyterry5374 what did the Fab 5 win?
Joy act like the WNBA has been a hot commodity for years 😂
Go woke, go broke! 😆
She's an idiot. It's lost money ever since it's been in existence. It's been subsidized for decades by the NBA. FACTS.
@@Degen.Youth24that is such a stupid saying. You don’t even know what being woke means. It means not being ignorant of all the injustices that go on around us. Opening your eyes to what is happening.
And it’s the Karen’s screaming at a taco bell employee who get fired and go broke.
@@skillethead15 all I know is, go woke, be broke 😂😂😂
She's delusional! That's the jealousy talking!
This the first time the WNBA ever had a box office type of player and they don't know what to do with it 😂😂😂
USA basketball is not WNBA
@@JayBiggz when did I ever bring up USA?
You can't fix a culture of "hot mess" over night 🤦🏻♀️
No, Chamique Holdsclaw. She was a bust. The "Be Like Chamique" marketing campaign was over the top.
@@JayBiggzglobal exposure is different tho. The era w mj opened up a whole new era of European players kukoc etc !
Diana Taurasi had slightly worse results, as a rookie in 2004, and was selected for the Olympic team. The argument is thin to say she doesn’t belong on the team. If they REALLY picked the “best” twelve players, four or five of those ladies wouldn’t have made that team.
Catlins numbers are better than Diana. Brittney has only played one game, still injured. Chelsea Gray injured, hasn't played a game this season. 12 best, yeah right.
Brittney should still be in a Russian jail.
Clark haven’t won anything
I don't believe people are watching. It's already over
@@choncyterry5374 remember lebron didn't have any accomplishments as a winner until 10 years into his career he didnt win in college didnt play nba didnt win until 10th year highschool he dominated but so did shaun livingston because of their hieght
The problem is take those players out she still wouldn’t make it. These women were already working out and practicing for this, they’ve been there they know how this works. Caitlin is mad fragile right now she still learning her way through the W and you want her to play in the Olympics?!?! Please. Let this woman work her way through the W first see if she can hold up to that physicality. It’s like they won’t let her grow. Then her coach put CC quote out there only for her to get totally locked by Carrington again
Disrespectful = No
Dumb decision = yes
Butch Griner going - disrespectful! She doesn't even like America, our flag, or our National Anthem!
Exactly
@@motherofthreeb6337exactly.
Exactly
Disrespectful = no.
Dumb decision = no.
End of discussion.
Joy really acts like the WNBA has been this flourishing 😂😂
it has been on the up for a couple years now yall just didnt care and still dont care so why comment and why are you even here??
@@SuperAliciakeysfanBro ur a simp😭and she doesn’t even know u. The Wnba has been getting popular from caitlin clark. look it up
WNBA ratings and attendance have been rising last 5yrs. Just say you're commenting for the sake of talking
@@kingshabazz1310it literally was going up by what 10 percent 😂😂😂 they still having to take papas money to keep from going bankrupt
Still been going up 🤷🏿♂️ @@LukeSchmidt89
One minute Joy was saying they only bring the 12 best players and the next minute she says this is not about the best 12 players it’s about creating a team 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 makes no sense
But she said that I’m her first statement. She said they are picking the best team that can play well together. Pay attention.
She never make any sense
She is a walking contradiction g
@@bijaystephens2240a floor spacer that can also pass and doesn’t need that ball wouldn’t fit in a team full of stars 😂 lmao
Right😂every CC video. Her n Molly, get em their 2 innings and one AB. Only dudes watch we barely listen, they start talkin meanwhile Molly has no clue she’s standing up on the desk grabbing her ankles
Wow, Joy Taylor doesn't think people know how ratings work. The more people that watch the better the ratings are. The Gaslighting is so bad.
ratings has NOTHING to do with the US National Team choices...they are NOT the WNBA,
These girls really think that everyone is watching because of the WNBA haha they don't understand that CC playing more eyes get a taste they might want to watch more games
@@Mid.night1000rrSo, you didnt watch the game tonight? Why is the TRURH so frightening? CC just arrived at the pro level sleepover. She does not get the master bedroom. CC stans wants CC to get a free ride...a free ring..stan bragging rights...NOPE,,, earn it!!! Shady is clearly shucking and jiving. His commentary is extreme and HE doesn't even believe it..? Speak needs ratings.😂😂😂
I agree She don't know what she talkin about looks at stats oh okay lmao 🤣
@@Mid.night1000rr This is a bad assumption. People watching only for one player and are not seriously interested in basketball are not going to drive the WNBA to sustained growth.
Joy is ridiculous so the WNBA is going lose the gold medal if CC went instead of Diana Taurasi?? 😂😂😂 Knock it off bro
Clark haven’t won anything
The WNBA is not the same as USA basketball. They don't make the decision. Y'all need to learn.
You completely ignored the big picture. Building a TEAM! You’re looking at chemistry. These girls have won 7 golds in a row. These girls have chemistry and know how eachother play. Like if you and I played basketball since we were kids and we get in HS. Ima know how you play. Because we played together for a long time. We practiced together, played games together and built a chemistry. Diana dosent have the points but she has the leadership, experience and chemistry. CC, Reese and Brink I guarantee will all be on the next one if not the next👏🏽🙌🏽.
Joy is really trying to argue like the WNBA is established and does not need marketing.
Amazed she does not know what Tiger did for the purses in golf which was already a big deal. He exploded with the viewership as Caitlin seems to be doing now.
This is the woke women's only taking point right now. No one cares about them winning another Gold , we want to be entertained and rarely ngs are everything, but that's why the wnba will stay broke with this stupid mentality
@@kishoreannavajjhala9432Caitlin is not Tiger Woods
Not a winner like him but is attracting a huge new audience. The 12 best lady players together have not filled up an NBA sized stadium in 17 Years while this girl did in DC.!!!!
Joy doesn't want to anger the woke brigade. She might need them some day.
"Men are thinking business, women are thinking emotional".
Nope. Women are thinking another Gold.
nah they want another gold
I get thinking business but there is a better future to protect here. Those women are completely hateful of CC for getting more than them and not proving or earning anything yet. CC is not even the best player on her team. Its Boston, she's a beast.
@@ronniejohnson196 yeah like having the best rookie ever on the roast for even garbage minutes is going to prevent them from winning, it's not like they are unbeaten since the 90s... oh wait
@@francariglino First thing 1st> Is for what the US Team Want's. Second thing>"best rookie ever" Yet to be determined. Personally, I didn't start watching WNBA or Girls/Womens BB with CC. Peace...
The elephant in the room that no one is talking about...
Gray has yet to play a game all season, and she got selected. BS on that "Best Player" argument. Anyone who picks an injured player over a healthy player, has snubbed every healthy player available.
lol crazy thing is is no one is commenting on this comment thats crazy because they dont actually watch the wnba still just highlights or the want to see her fail i seen comments about how she hasnt won anything but when i asked what lebron won before going they couldnt give a reply because its marketing a race that grew the wnba lol nobody really wants to watch them do 80 point games in todays era its just what it is
Clark Not better than her tho but I get it
@@Skiandthstswatitis
Clark is better than her right now. And she'll continue to be better for as long as Gray is on the mend.
I disagree with the snubbing every healthy player argument
Not all healthy players are good or necessarily a better option than a player at 25%.. obviously not talking about Caitlin Clark
@JiKeeY202 They are when compared to someone at 0%. Gray hasn't suited up since last years finals.
Before Caitlin Clark:
Bill Burr.. You Don't sell Any F'N tickets
With Caitlin Clark:
The WNBA... We Don't want to sell
Any F'N tickets
Because the nba players subsidize them and they don't have sell tickets. They are so confident they'll get more money if they just keep crying patriarchy, misogyny... that instead a raise with the increased money from Clark's popularity they chose airplane rides l
The WNBA was selling tickets before Caitlin Clark to people who are fans of the game. These people now are CC fans and if she doesn't live up to the hype they will move on anyway.
The wnba wud have been bankrupt 2 decades ago had the nba not been obligated to pay for it
@@44sgyrl Soooo, the WNBA doesn't want to sell any FN tickets??
Lmao didn’t drake kick the mystics out of there own home stadium because he was doing a concert at capital one , I don’t think that would be allowed if WNBA was selling out . And the nba is literally paying for the existence of the wnba
Can tell Joy is mad 😂😂😂😂😂
Yet shes making money. Meanwhile you are broke
@@BLACKSTA361SIMP
@@BLACKSTA361 this is as pointless as me saying Joy is attractive but is pushing 40 and unmarried
She’s mad that she didn’t make the team?
@@BLACKSTA361 is obviously a chick 😂😂😂
If it was a talk about Reese, some of them would have a COMPLETE different argument
My thoughts exactly
Thats true because Reese is not on CC level. Your point is?
@kawhiiee his point is valid. If you know the people involved, you know where their conversation goes.
I don’t ever wanna hear women in sports complain about pay.
What does that have to do with this situation? 😂😂😂 yall just say anything
Uhmm it certainly have something to do with this situation. Use ur brain for a minute.
Very true
@@mikee3261 The WNBA has NEVER been operated at a profit. That means that if things were natural. It would not even exist talk less about having discussions about pay.
If they played Caitlin in the Olympics, you could bet that salaries should double next year.
Not disrespectful, just financially negligent.
They are neglecting their fiduciary responsibility.
@@RealPackCatNo kidding. I like seeing Caitlin hit 3s. I'd watch, suffer through ads..
Chelsea Gray and Diana Taurasi are not among the best 12 players of the WNBA based on their performances, so why are they on the Olympic team? 🤷🏽♂️
Chelsea Gray was voted by her peers and the WNBA as the best PG in the League WTF are you talking about??
Neither is american hater Brittany Grimey!
Because they're monkey pox mafia
I was looking for this comment. Plus, Griener that's 3 of the 12 that don't qualify.
Two other players who made the team don't deserve it ... therefore, Clark does "deserve it?" I don't get that. One or two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't want to hear one more word about the women's game not getting the same marketing opportunities that the men do, I don't want to hear anything more about low salaries.
I love how women are acting like if they added Clark they still won’t win every gave by 30 points
They won't win every game by 30. Australia has a good team.
Bruh it's crazy 😅😅😅
But add post injured player hasnt played for a long time will secure the gold, 😂
How so?
Anything goes as long as they can spit on Clark.
Taurasi being on the team disqualifies Joy’s entire point. If it’s the 12 best players, I get it, but it’s not.
CC ain't Taurasi. Larry Bird and Magic had no business on the Dream Team based on "12 top players", but they were legendary players. As is Taurasi.
Every team need veteran experience and leadership fool. The dream team didn't need bird and magic but their leadership was unreplaceable.
@@ggaitheriiagreed, Magic and Bird were there to grow the game globally which they were successful at. If the WNBA doesn’t stop with their BS they will fail to grow the game.
Fool….😂 Perhaps the “fool” is the one who can’t decipher what “legendary” means with regards to the Dream Team 🤷🏾♂️
She didn't say 12 best, she said they put together a TEAM. It's not about money, it's about gold medals. Period.
Why does no one know USA got 7 or 8 or 9 gold medals in a row in women's basketball?
Because no one saw it!!!
If Caitlin Clark was on the team... I would watch the games!!!!!
FACTS!!!
Putting her on the team won’t spoil their chances for getting gold but it’ll sure make them more popular and make more money
This was a dumb decision
So yall enjoy watching someone turn the ball over at a high clip and shoot 3 for 10 from 3?
Facts. Always watched the men’s Olympic finals n still didn’t realize they had a women’s team. Thx Caitlin 😅
@@Macintoshllc what's yall obsession with a turnover prone pg who shoots 30% from 3.... yall really scrapping the bottom of the barrel there.
Then how does a player who hasnt played ALL SEASON make the team!
Indeed
BRO, they literally should have Reese and Clark on the Olympic. Get some swag out there! GROW THE GAME, GET PAID!
Instead they choose 41 year old Taurasi and a player who hasn’t played a game all season (Chelsea Grey)
Exactly , they should be sending popular rookies. It’ll make more fun tv. Reece, Cameron and Caitlin
Also Cardoso and Brink. Griner can't even walk right now and Taurasi is 42 years old. Another two could drop from age and injury recovery as well and wouldn't be missed on Team USA.
I agree but they hate Angel Reese 🙄
I don’t even like Reese but this is facts
So don’t get mad when your max salary is 250k. Olympics is not every year, is every 4 year, they just miss the opportunity to introduce caitlin to the world man.. basketball is an international sport, fans are worldwide. Asia, europe, fans everywhere wanna see caitlin
The rest of the world don't give a ish about women's basketball in the Olympics buddy
@@hollo7906you talked to the rest of the world ? You got the rest of the world in your contacts right now ? What they telling you now ?
@@hollo7906Well I am from Canada 🇨🇦 and I started watching the WNBA due to Caitlin Clark!!!!!! I have 0 desire to watch the female U.S. Olympic Basketball team w/out her on it!!!!! And I can tell u, I am FAR FROM being the only Canadian that started to watch the WNBA b/c we heard about C.C balling 🏀 in her College yrs!!!!!!
@@hollo7906 That's the point. You really are hollow, cause the point flew right past you. Nobody cares about Women's basketball. But because of Caitlyn they are starting to care now. So get her the spotlight she needs to show off to the world. It's literally how every other sport blew up, NBA, NFL, etc.
@sonikspeed19
Nobody care about women's basketball in the Olympics... stop it
Imagine being named Joy and being such a hater
Imagine watching 3 weeks ago and calling yourself a WNBA historian/expert.
@@cruzinthruspaceimagine assuming anything from a single anonymous comment
Facts
I'll laugh my a** off if the U.S. women's team doesn't win gold.
What was she hating on
Womens Olympic team has won 7 straight golds and no one cared. Gold wont change anything for these women.
Exactly Straight Up Real True Facts
They are sending a player who has 5 gold medals.Five! This is insane
they easily coulda left Taurasi at home.
Nope. That's Experience in Olympic Play.
@@ronniejohnson196So you're saying that experience matters? So the best move would be to leave Dinosaur Taurasi at home and get a younger player experience so that it pays off next time.
@@jek4837 Troll or not, I appreciate your opinion, even though the derogatory choice of words used kinda makes me wonder, although> "get a younger player experience," seems valid, nevertheless, in reality the worldwide focus from Global Mass Media, has created SuperStar Like attention with positive and Negative implications. Indeed; So much So that in Reality, that It exposes the economic, ethnic, racial and social undertones of structures that prolong divisions in Society. IOW>The Caitlin Clark Phenomenon with All the implications; Means that Her appearance(Do To No Fault Of Her Own) would be more of a distraction than a benefit, for the attention needed for the team as a Whole(Including Caitlin) to focus on The Objective>Win The 8th US Olympics Gold Medal In A Row. Peace...
@@ronniejohnson196 they don’t need her experience they would win with or without her, every game is going to be a blowout. What they need is star power.
There’s a player on the roster who hasn’t even played this season ….
Who?
@@730FlightRisk Chelsea Gray
@@ianspruce595 oh, she’s proven already😒🤷🏽♂️ thought it was gonna be someone else. She’s better than Caitlin right now so I wouldn’t replace her for Caitlin.
@@730FlightRisk She's hurt...lol
@@sylvestermorgan2384 Olympics doesn’t start until July 🤷🏽♂️ plenty of time to heal and get ready to play. Plus the exhibition games, use those games to get her rhythm going
It’s basketball not business??? ….Then don’t complain about your salary!
FACTS. Joy is a clown
Exactly 😂
Exactly. They want it BOTH ways
Not for the Olympics lol
@@bradenhazle4378 Yeah, not like the Olympics has companies that pay billions to advertise there?? Or bring money and drives traffic to the city it's taking place in??? You must be a genius lol
it's not a disrespect for CC. It's a disrespect for the fans...
SKIP
This is ridiculous, they say a 42 year old lady who can barely walk is a better basketball player than Clark.
AND the girl who can’t even play because she’s injured is supposedly better. How??!! She can’t even play!! 😂😂😂 somebody gotta be paying them they can’t be this dumb
I don't think you've ever seen Diana lol. She *just* played a double over time and wasn't even breathing hard.
So you want to replace Clark with a forward?
Yes
@@bradenhazle4378i mean there wnba games, it can't be that hard
They literally didn't go with the 12 best. 2 are injured. 1 has played 1 game. Her stats are better than DT.
She averaging .2 points more than DT. She is not better. Stop it
Do you know how long it took them to put this team together? 2 years. Roster been competing and playing together since 2022.
@@FalconsZone6 but still more points, but now do Rebounds and Assist🧐 And DT definitely ain’t seeing the defenses that CC is and yeah still better than a 42 year old
WHY IS THIS NOT THE POINT??? 2 player's = 1 game total this season. C'MON MAN.
Even if we take 2 people off CC still isn't making it lol. DT brings leadership, experience, and toughness. She has a few team mates on the team so chemistry already exists.
I disagree the WNBA on life support. They haven’t been profitable for 28 years. Y’all need to stop lying on these shows. Wow
Its not on life support. The nba wont let it die.
@@universe-ie2mkthe nba is the life support. So technically it is on life support
And as I'm watching this the Fever is down 30 in the 3rd Quarter and CC has 10 just stop...she will get her chance
@@jdixon1922facts
@@jdixon1922the point is if she deserves to make it in the future your racist a$$ would make another point as to why she shouldn’t make the team again. We peep your hate game so stop trying to mask it 😂😂😂
I’m frustrated by people constantly asserting that she will have a long career and play in the Olympics, as if it’s a certainty. In sports, nothing is guaranteed. A career-ending injury could happen at any moment, just like it did for Greg Oden. I find it difficult to keep listening to these unrealistic expectations.
Same!! Omg. The narrative that she’s the key to growing the game is tired too. She’s a scorer and can do it from deep. Lovely, great… but let’s at least acknowledge that she was chosen by the media… for money! not to grow the WNBA as a whole.
This is why you play her while you can and grow the viewership. It's all a gamble
@@Moneymattasthe current numbers back the claim. It's not like there isn't evidence
@@Moneymattas she may have been chosen, but it was because she could actually ball. It’s a fact that she broke all those records. From what I’ve seen from highlights, she can do more than score. Her passing skills are pretty good.
Especially when you see the career-ending attempts on her by these veterans that they're calling "hard fouls."
Where you guys loose me is you guys saying caitlin ain't better than those other women. Because she is better than most those women
And this is the taboo no one's allowed to break. While people watch those games only because of the brilliance of Clark on the court. But no, she can't be better than those lumbering giraffes and petty thugs.
@@jeanfourcadetrollll
Caitlin hate is unreal 🤦🏾♂️ they acting like the team is going to loose with her on the team
But if they do play her and they end up loosing people would never let her live that down so it’s really a loosing battle either way
Imagine if Kobe said, "Naw young buck, I'm playing in 6 straight Olympics. You don't get a chance." That's was Diana Taurasi is doing. She won 5 gold medals and is 41 years old. That's 24 years. Catty much?
Kobe would do that TF 😂😂😂😂
@@LKS-M9323 you have no clue what you are talking about. Kobe went to 2 Olympics. Lebron went to 3. Lebron could have went for the same amount as Diana but chose not to. The vets give the younger gen a chance to win a gold and promote themselves internationally.
You don't know what in the world are you talking about, because when Kobe didn't go, they were losing, finishing with the Bronze 🥉 but when he played, they won the Gold 🥇
@@raise1000 Bron didn't care anymore and hiw does anything you said prove I don't know what I'm talking about?
Same thing Alex Morgan does with the USWNT soccer, she hardly scores anymore and just prances around the field doing nothing taking playing time from the young stars......Women run off emotions instead of intelligence at times, of course also that crab in the bucket mentality......Does this really surprise anyone that these old heads are trying to hold on to their former glory?!
LeSean McCoy cooked this session. He made the best points and no one could not him off his square. Well done Shady!
To say the Olympic Games are not used to elevate players in their respective sports is dishonest it’s literally the reason the NBA is global
The women have been playing and winning. What has that done for their biggest complaint, money? They have won every basketball gold medal. Where is the money?
@pmh1nic Good point.
Exactly. Golf was big but Tiger blew up the interest. in a few years the 100 tour player was making a million. People tuned in for Tiger now for Caitlin.
The NBA players only started going to the Olympics because the USA wasn't winning in the Olympics.
What's more important, the wnba or the Olympics? The Olympics...Fine, now don't complain that you have no fans
If Joy doesn't want to talk about ratings, growing the sport, or the women's players making more money she can never complain about those things ever again
When joy said women’s sports isn’t a novelty I chuckled
It's not....9 time golds in basketball, currently 7 in a row. 4 golds in soccer. 4 world cups in soccer. and won the first Gold Cup in soccer
@@bradenhazle4378and still isn’t as big as those accolades would warrant
@@bradenhazle4378and no one cares, plus the women are still whining about money.
Imagine comparing Caitlin Clark to Christian Latner lmao…. It’s wild bruh
I cannot listen anymore to these braindead, nauseating points by joy. Turasi or Griner are not one of the 12 best either. So stop it with that argument. its not like she is a scrub either. She is 13th in scoring and 4th in assists per game and her stats after 12 games are just as good if not better than Turasis first 12 games as a rookie and she was on the team.
I agree, she sounds like a total simpleton.
I agree, she sounds like a total simpleton.
And she has more turnovers than every player selected to the team
@@dionellwalker9762you're also dumber than anyone commenting BUT we won't hold it agaisnt you buddy!
Taurasi and Stewie played on the USA based on their college resumes, because they didin't have a pro resume. Doesn't CC's college resume count for something?
The 12 best players argument is so weak. Diana Taurasi is not top 12 right now. Even on the mens team it’s not the best 12. Shady McCoy nailed it. Acho debunked that 12 best flimsy argument.
No one mentions that Chelsea Gray is on the team but hasnt played for 8 months and is still on the injured list
@@ianspruce595 Griner can't even walk right now. I saw her on a Walmart go-kart last game. 😂
There are players on that roster that are injured/HURT, and not currently playing… This is DUMB AF!!!! the WNBA and Team USA will REGRET this!!
bruh joy talking about caitlin is starting to sound like skip talking about lebron..
The more time that goes by the more Caitlins treatment feels like when Lebron came into the league
This the dumbest take I’ve ever heard.
Was thinking the exact same thing
@@ktaylor2522 the media frenzy is the same level 🤷🏾♂️ name another player getting this much attention?
@@petefoster8698 Lol it’s not about the media frenzy. Skip was just blatantly hating on LBJ, while Joy is saying CC is a great hooper but didn’t earn being on the US team. There’s no hate in saying that.
Diana Tauras's numbers are worse than Caitlin Clark this year. One of the guards on the USA team is injured and hasn't played a game all year.
No they’re not, they’re the same
@@edwardt7364No. Clark has higher assists and rebounds lil bro
@@edwardt7364 Taurasi has almost no assists on one of the most veteran, experienced teams in the league. She's not passing the ball.
@@edwardt7364 Well, here is something that isn't even close. When Caitlin plays, millions of people watch. When Diana plays, you can hear crickets chirping because no one has bothered to watch her in over 20 years.
@@christianharding5681 and more turnovers
Shady is the only one who understand it . . . This isn’t a hard concept. And the girl keeps killing her own argument, first it was “she’s not the best 12”, then she goes to “they are building a team” . . . Which one is it? Again this isn’t hard, tell em Shady.
I don’t think you understand, it’s really easy too
@@ntrroberts6040 Break it down to me then . . . love to hear this . . .
Its been an 1hr we are waiting @ntrroberts6040
Facts women are dumb they hate on their own women without the men watching the league and without Caitlyn Clark the WNBA would be trash.
lol she was better than majority of the players.
They've always let 1 legacy and 1 rookie go. But now all of a sudden they want the 12 best. GTFOH
Joy says “You think people will show up to see her in the warmups?”
YES!
Stadiums sold out when Messi joined Miami even when he wasn’t on the field. They just want to see Messi, even it was on the bench.
Even the MLS understands how to market and grow the league.
🤘🏿tx✌🏿🤎💚🖤
MLS does. NBA does. NWSL doesn't. And WNBA doesn't nor has to: the boys are footing the bill.
Back in the day with the Galaxy similar story.
@@tednorberto3086 for sure. With Zlatan
@@Nicholas-HTXwell that just says what weirdos you people are
Larry Bird wasn't a top 12 player at that stage of his career. His back was toast.
Neither was Magic Johnson
@@analyticalinsight or Laettner
Magic was out the league when he got selected and the Olympics was Bird last basketball game! Women didn't have a problem with that then...
Maaan, I’ll take Bird now over some of those bums going to the Olympics this year.
Yall really went back lol name someone recently 😂??
She is one of the best at her position already in the WNBA
Did Joy seriously say it's hard to understand & analyze ratings? 😂🤣😂🤣
Since you know so much break it down for us.....how do ratings work? I'm waiting.....
@@kingshabazz1310 If you need me to explain it you must be one of the idiots she was talking about!! 😂🤣 Nice try though! ✌
if I turn off my TV to those feminatsi, that's what you called ratings @@kingshabazz1310
She meant it's hard for her. She's got all these years in the business and still can't understand that Olympic viewership will translate to WNBA viewership and purchases of merchandise. She really thinks they're 2 separate entities.... and then 2min later she says the Dream Team inspired global fandom and progressed the NBA
@@sonikspeed19lol she’s just walking contradiction
She actually said ratings is someone else's job with a smug face but will be the same person complaining about salaries.Its sickening.
even if the wnba didn't exist the USA would still have a women's olympic basketball team. You dont play in the olympics for the money
Sickening? Why? Because of the messenger? Her job is totally different. People like herself are the ones that indeed worry about ratings. The job of team USA is to get a gold. Thus… ratings is someone else’s problem.
@@railot13
Fans are not their goal.
You admit it.
Now, if it’s not their job, who’s is it?
Obviously not the ones creating the team.
They did not pick the 12 best players. That’s just a fact.
Who are the 12 best then?
They did. 12 best LGBTQ.
@@ntrroberts6040 arike better than a few of them
@@ntrroberts6040 Chelsea Gray hasn't played in 8 months and Griner can't walk. Literally anyone is better than those two.
@@twizms2 change your pfp scrub
That lady straight up hating
“The men’s team didn’t grow because of Cristian L., it grew because of the superstars, the star names” -_____- contradicting her entire argument
Taurasi, Candace Parker, Breanna Stewart all made Olympic teams as rookies. They weren’t one of the 12 “best” in the WNBA at the time.
Nah Candace Parker did not make it as a rookie she was snubbed I remember that conterversy
All of them also came into the wnba from the ncaa fresh off championship wins. MULTIPLE ONES BACK TO BACK. How many did clark win??🧐(0)
@itsruffoutchea6636 She made the finals and broke the the record for most points scored.. She would have lit the Olympics on fire jacking 3s and going on the break...
@@itsruffoutchea6636You don’t think it’s more impressive to lead a team of nobodies to back-to-back natty appearances than a player on a super team winning one that everybody expected to win?
Claiming a player in Chelsea Gray, who has not played a single game this entire season, is a better player to be on the USWNT roster over Clark is ridiculous. There might have been an argument if two players on the USWNT haven't only played one game combined between Griner and Gray all season.
U must dnt know before she got hurt she was the best guard in the W
@guccigucci676 The operative phrase would be "before she got hurt." If you're claiming to only take the best players is the argument a player returning from serious injury would not meet the criteria for forming the roster.
Please you tube Chelsea Gray. Tremendous ball handler defender and magic Johnson level passer. You have no idea 😔💡
@sammastersful If she hasn't played a single game all season due to injury, the argument she's the best player to be on the roster over another healthy player is ridiculous. You do recognize injuries hinder athletes' ability to play at the peak level of potential, which is what is being argued here for her to be deserving of her spot on the USWNT roster, all the time.
@sammastersful I never questioned her talent, simply the reasoning she deserves a spot on the Olympic roster not being in playing shape as it stands now merely weeks out from the Olympics.
The best moment of this debate was Shady realizing that he was actually right for once and being absolutely shocked by it
😂😂😂😂
I think more so that he was right and not trying to throw it in their face. I think this was more of a “who am I working with moment” that they don’t get you can put together a great team and the best marketing opportunity. And why would the best team even be a part of the conversation if they are already leaving off other players that are better than legacy players
Hilarious
He's actually wrong lol
@@LKS-M9323 I mean, you can disagree with his opinion and say he’s wrong, your reasons would probably be correct.
What I was focusing on was when Joy was talking about Christian Laettner and how Shady pointed out what she was saying wasnt analogous. And you can hear the inflection in his voice change, almost like he’s surprised he found himself on the right side of an argument without Acho having to bail him out
Correct best thing for Caitlyn to get much needed rest, which she would not get if she was on Olympic team. Now wasn’t there a young lady from UConn play on the Olympic team her rookie year…Previously, four WNBA rookies - Rebecca Lobo in 1996, Diana Taurasi in 2004, Candace Parker in 2008 and Breanna Stewart in 2016 - have been selected for Team USA's Olympic rosters, while Christian Laettner made the 1992 'Dream Team' roster as an NBA rookie. 🤔
These women in the WBNA and even media pundits are SOOOO jealous of Caitlin Clark. It’s crazy. Clark deserves to be on the team. Even coming off the bench. She’s a 3 point expert.
Clark has a losing record 😂 she doesn’t deserve anything
"Ratings is someone else's problem." - Joy... That quote reflects EXACTLY why losers stay losers.
no..because it is true.. The Women's National Team has NOTHING to do with the WNBA, except they are using the best players in the country.
@@darrellwinston8909they are using the best players from the WNBA so it has EVERYTHING to do with it, people can’t be this dense.
Why do you think the NBA is so big internationally, the 92 dream team
There is a reason why NBA cooked playoffs with Lakers, so rating will increase. Still sad for jailblazers, but rating earning money is priority.
Ok idgit are u telling me people will stop watching the WNBA cuz she’s not on the USA team. If she was black her fans wouldn’t be her fans.
No way they prioritized winning with a 41 year old Diana Tarausi on the team
Do you feel this way about Lebron playing for Team USA @ 40 yrs old?
@@trust4honor335 did you watch LeBron play this year?🤡
@@bigman7570 Yes and he was a 1st round exit...next! Diana's averaging 17pts and 5 rebounds and less turnovers than Bron and CC and has the career to back her up with overall team camaraderie. 🤡
Well u could use this same argument on lebron James me personally let the dam hype die down she's only 22 there's plenty of time for her Olympics games.
@@benjaminchisolmjr7863 please explain to me how I can do that, you're basically saying you didn't watch LeBron play this year
The only thing dumber than leaving her off, the team is going on TV and saying you think it’s a good idea
I think it’s better for her to rest.
Facts
@@earljohnson8936 Rest her at the All Star Game, really get her strong. Heck, give her next year off.
Well she wont be missed🤣
What is even dumber is to think she's one of the 12 best when I can name 15 that's better....
Can’t wait for the crowds in Paris to be screaming “we want Caitlin”.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Won’t happen.
caitlin is a american thing. Not a international thing.
Yeah right 😂😂
Well we know that would have nothing to do with basketball
It's obvious Joy doesn't like Caitlin.
She don't like white players
She is just like the Vets on the Olympic team.
Just because she's not bowing down and kissing up to Caitlin,she's hating on her?! You Caitlin Clark stans are ridiculous.
It's not that man, but she always says it's an entertainment business and now it's flipping clark has better numbers than plum and the goat, but they in. The NBA put names in the Olympics to grow their sports, latner, magic and bird at their end of their careers, if my memory serves me right Larry was on one leg because of the name. This is an opportunity to help the ladies grow their pockets and it was fail. I didn't even know the ladies Olympic women's team has won 7 straight up until this topic one player isn't going to ruin that win streak.
How can these people not like her. She’s a very well mannered girl.
Shady should have said: youre right. Its not their job to grow the game, its their job not to mess it up while it is growing already. And on this they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Update: I was wrong on this. If you go to the usa basketball website mission statement page, it says their mission is promoting, growing and elevating the game at all levels. It is also their mission to increase participation and promote safe and fun environments. So Shady is 100% correct and joy is wrong.
Biggest star is not same as best player. Jordan was both, but it was his stardom that made dream team big.
And his stardom that kept some other greats off like Isiah. The WNBA doesn’t get for the same reason Joy doesn’t get it, the WNBA player hating on Caitlin don’t get it. They are delusional. Kylie donating that money and them not supporting him when he was going through it is wild. He is their dad paying their light bills
@@casherj1 Isiah kept Isiah off smooth brain
@@casherj1 you don't get it
@@nonamewillbegiven2412 Both can be true. Isiah hunting Jordan caused his own demise but you are missing the point in that the NBA went with the best marketing plan and "relative best team that made mike happy". In that case, people wanted to see Mike so they gave him the power to control roster. Where you and Joy are missing the point is people only want "the idea of Caitlin" she doesnt have to play or dictate anything other than having her name on the roster. That would be enough to maximize marketing and put "relative best product" in that it would not really hurt their competitiveness same as leaving Isiah off team did.
@@casherj1 no, the Pistons walk off caused his own demise
Diana Taurasi - Drafted 2004 (18.3 ppg 3.4 ast first 12 games)--- made the olympic team in 2004 . Candace Parker (16.8 ppg 4.1 ast in first 12 games) - Drafted in 2008 -- made the olympic team in 2008 , Breanna Stewart drafted in 2016 -- 16.3 ppg 2.9 ast (first 12 games) made the olympic team in 2016. And then you have Caitling clark with similar stats if not better ( 16.8 ppg and 6.3 ast in first 12 games) But she is not selected. Somehow, now, USA needs experience and the best 12 , and a team of players who know each other. Apparently not in 2004, 2008 nor in 2016.
Ding-ding-ding-ding!
woooooooow....reposting!!!! lol
Clark’s stats are better than 75% of the Olympic roster, but these women keep saying she’s not a top player.
All 3 of those players won Natys coming out of college.. lemme know how many Natys and WNBA wins Cailtin Got?
so better player's have not played at all this year??? Griner= 1 game the other has no games.
Laenttner out here catching strays like wtf did I do?? 😂
One of the greatest men’s college basketball players,AD played in 2012 there are cases shady saying he was the great white hope is hilarious
Laettner was a decent player but if they wanted to put a college player on the team it obviously should've been SHAQ. Yeah, Laettner was a great white hope.
Laettner was a serial winner (21-2 in NCAA Tournament games), one of the great big game players in college history. Sheq was a loser until he hooked up with Kobe and Jackson late in his career.
@@RayManzarekRocks Laettner won one NCAA title. Shaq won four NBA titles. One NBA title equals three NCAA titles so Shaq essentially was 12 times the winner that Laettner ever was.
@@keenannorris3309Laettner won TWO national championships (1991, 1992) and was runner-up for a third (1990). While he was there, Duke won 83 percent of its regular-season games and 91 percent (21-2) of its NCAAA Tournament games. Shaq didn't win jack in college or the pros until he hooked up with Kobe and Jackson later in his career.
I am a filipino, I Never watched WNBA before,but when i saw this girl CATLIN CLARK how good she was,then i started watching wnba because of her.she is a GOAT.
Bro joy is the most predictable person ever lol she makes Molly look great on first take
Imagine a show of just two of em😂😂😂 Molly & joy on sports. My my my.
Molly is better looking
@@PhoenixRising82672joy better lookin stop it
@@Mdtsports97they bout what and what to me lol both fine
@@Mdtsports97 That's my opinion why you mad
Growing the sport is also mentioned on their website as a reason for them playing, not having Clark not on the team is a huge slap in the face!!
The reality of this is you don't usually use the 12 players in a game, CC's inclusion is a win win situation for the USA team and the WNBA as a whole.
Right! Yet>Then The Cult Of Caitlyn Will Be Crying A Ocean if She don't Get Superstar Treatment!
True, plus if the Olympic team loses, then its going to go back to if cc would have made a difference, which ultimately is still a win for the qnba because all eyes would still be on them
I’m NBA fan but I don’t watch WNBA, but I’ve been following Catlin Clark since in Iowa now the Indiana Fever
Clark’s stats are better than 75% of the Olympic Roster. These women that hate Clark need to stop lying.
She's played in how many WNBA games?
Despite her stats, what's her team record 🤔.. She good but it ain't like she a one person to win it all without a team
She haven’t won anything
She is rated the 30 guard, stop lying!
Stop lying! She only shoot 3’s at a 29% average! No inside game and no defense! She’s HORRIBLE!
Joy is usually on point, but it seems like she's in her feelings here. It feels like she's legitimately angry at the thought of Caitlin Clark making the Olympic team.
Just crazy!!! How do you leave her off the team. It’s about Business people!!!!
She’s always in her feeling
Joy is always full of herself and wrong, she dissed the 49ers last year said they wouldn't make it to the Super Bowl and of course dead wrong as usual, she sucks as an analyst
McCoy is right, I couldn’t name one player without the name on the back of the jersey except Caitlin Clark
@@myztowhy do yall be so proud about being ignorant on something 😂😂
THIS IS NOT ABOUT CC BEING A ROOKIE AND HERE’S PROOF:
DAWN STALEY FIRST WENT TO THE OLYMPICS IN 1996, BEFORE ENTERING THE DRAFT IN 1999.
DIANA TAURASI WENT TO THE OLYMPICS IN HER ROOKIE YEAR IN 2004.
TAURASI ROOKIE SEASON AVERAGE: 17-4.4-3.9.
the jealousy of caitlin clark is insane...
“Womens sports is not a novelty” no joy that’s exactly what it is
Yea until it's wide spread and has national power it unfortunately needs to prioritize
James Jones and Emmanuel trying hard to not make Joy stand alone. Hahah they know that was some BS. Leave Joy on an island.
😂😂😂
Yea! They protect her so much, her toned now is as if she’s all knowing and y’all need stupid heads need to sit back and listen
She makes sense
I was thinking the exact same thing. They were pretty quiet 😂😂
It's just pure jealousy. Stewart and Taurasi made the roster as rookies there should be no excuse to leave her out. They all jealous because she is more popular and has the gaze of hoops fans you can even see how Joy talks about her. They absolutely don't like her
Candace Parker as well
It's Agenda they are trying to push. CC is not ready. She is only a 3 point shooter. I don't see anything else special about her. In college she lost. She didn't bring her team a championship. Bunch of nonsense
and candace parker.
@@bleak83These three examples were champions. Taurasi won 3 chips in college. Stewie was 4 for 4 in college chips. Parker won 2 chips. You also left out Rebecca Lobo who also won a chip on a 35-0 team. That’s the difference. All those examples won in college on top of sweeping the same awards, and they won their final college game as well. If Clark got one of those chips in the last two years she would have been the 5th rookie. Kelsey Plum is the record she broke. Kelsey Plum played for Washington where she put up record breaking numbers that were since surpassed by Clark. She didn’t win in College either, this is her first year on the team in 7 years. They left her off as well even though she had crazy stats coming into the league. Plum wasn’t even allowed to shoot her first three years, she was held back then they let her be her. Clark got the green light. Clark won nothing in high school, and won nothing in college. You got to win at some point if you talked about the way she is talked about.
Can't believe the other players wouldn't band together and riot that she's not on the squad. Like they should want more money, but alright no one is going to take them seriously anymore if they talk about getting paid better.
Women can’t help but hate on eachother 😂😂😂
You have to stop asking Joy Taylor any questions regarding CC22. She just doesn’t get it.
lol , Sounds like you don’t get it
Sound like you don’t get it
Joy doesn’t get it
She gets it but at the same time she has to be in the spaces (sisterhood) with these black woman, she ain’t risking that
And never will 😅
This is the first time in my life I've watched a conversation about the WNBA, and it's because of Caitlin Clark!
Yup 😂
Are you going to watch a non cc game tho?
That's nothing to brag about
@@mrzuniga1821 same goes for you emoji boy
What's hard to understand about ratings lol??
1. You have a marketable product
2. You show and make that marketable product available
3. People tune in and buy the product
4. You get ratings
If you look at her stats she’s better than three players on this team
😂 she basically saying don’t worry about ratings(views) worry more about winning but if you not trying to get ratings then who is watching you win a gold? 😂😂 when women speak emotionally it never makes sense ever
She is not speaking emotionally. Dare I say that people all over the world will be tuned in to watch the Olympics. Maybe you were not aware of this. With that being said even if viewership was low, winning a gold medal period and legitimately being able to say you are the best in the world is more important than viewership or popularity.
I disagree, this is about Business!!! You have to have her on this team period. Give the fans what they want, they are the ones paying these players pay checks.
@@Gracelynsgotcharismayour a female aren't you
Chelsea Gray has a “friggin” broken leg?!?!? She hasn’t been able to do her job, but she has the priority of an all-star team?!?!?
I agree. That surprised me. They should have picked Arike.
From Canada,I started watching women’s basketball because of Caitlin Clark. Maybe they need to put together an all star team of college players. I think N B C is concerned about the ratings
Thank you Joy-for telling me I don't understand anything about ratings. No one is as smart as you.