Mihrimah actually held more power than her brothers because she was always safe from her father. He was free to spoil and love her without expectations. She wasn't a threat to him so he never guarded against her. She gained so much power she was i a consulate of women like her mother who even influenced world views and the government affairs. Simply unheard of. Her brothers also rarely said no to her in rl. One could say that she held the most power of all. She even ruled over Selim's hurrem as Valide instead of his women.
@@lisamonteleone13 I always figured if I was in that situation, i'd rather have a daughter and never understood why Hurrem wasn't more pleased. A daughter is safe, you are far less likely to lose her, and she'll be your support in the future.
@@rockdocandlittlebird Because in those times and religion, men held much more value than women. Having more sons secured Hurrem's power. If she only had Mihrimah, she would not have had the same power as she had in court.
@princess7jasmine but that was only in the show. In real life, the Sultan killed Baezid like Mustafa. Pretty much because he was following Mustafa and wanted to do what he saw him do.
@shirleyy2711 No doubt. That is in evidence in the harem itself. But consider this: he has bound to have had countless girls with other women. They were never killed. Yet only her and one other that came late in life and died young were favored above the others and givrn powerr.
Mihrihmah had been in love with Bali Bey since she was 3 years old. Everyone in the harem knew how she felt about her beloved Bali!! She was always talking about him and obsessed with him. Then when Hurrem tried to tell her that Bali had no feelings for her, she did not believe her. So, Hurrem arranged for Mihrihmah to hear from Bali himself on how "he looked at her as she was still a little girl, and could never think of her as anything else." It broke her heart to know that Bali would never Bey at her!!" And she was forced to marry Rusty Pasha instead!!
Mishima fell in love with one man after another. Had she married Bali Bae, she would have been more miserable. He got around alot with the ladies. If he cheated, she would have had him beheaded because her heart was involved. She fell for at least 3 or 4 men while with Rustem. All which would have broke her heart too. Ecause she was not their priority. Rustem was devoted to her. I believed she loved him a little as her Children's father. When he cheated on her from years of rejection while keeping her family safe, she was upset. But when she found out that he bought his life from Selim at the cost of Baezid, she finished him.
10:30 "So you're taking my leftovers, as usual" - so many times Mahidevran could have fantastic comebacks but the writers are so often focus on making Hürrem win every argument, they miss out on great dialogues opportunities.
i mean, didn't mahidevran also take gulfem's leftovers? and what other leftovers did she take? suleiman was aman in a harem that belonged to all the women, not just mahidevran. mahi should be more concerned about how easy it took hurrem to get suleiman by her side
That is true. Mihrihmah was very beautiful, powerful and rich. After her mother died, she helped her father as an advisor and financially. Then when Suleyman passed away, she was advisor and financially assisted Selim as Sultan.And was considered part of the Sultanate of women. To much of Nurbanu's chagrin.They were very much at odds with each other for the majority of time, until Mihrihmah retired to the Old Palace and died in 1578. Then Nurbanu only had to deal with Safiye, Murad's consort who was a thorn in her side till she popped off this mortal coil!!! Then Safiye had to deal with Kosem, and Kosem had to deal with Turhan. Then the Sultanate of women ended after Turhan, and no other women in the harem ever wielded power like that again!! So, the Sultanate started with Hurrem, Mihrihmah, Nurbanu, Safiye, Halime, Kosem, Turhan.
mahidevran always failed to see that she accused Hurrem of the exact same thing that she herself did. In her mind, she was justified, but Hurrem never was. She did the same thing to Gulfem that Hurrem did to here. Over and over. But two things Hurrem never did that Mahidevran did, make herself a victim or make her kids disloyal to their father.
8:53 ibrahim also called her dragon, and now mahidevran. As per prophecy of episode 46, the future teller said that the dragon (hurrem sultan) will overcome everyone one by one! Then looked at her. Its happening!!!
mihrimah was such a brat thinking she could marry for love when its clear that royals almost never marry for love.they marry to make stronger alliances for their family.
@@faizakhan4884 thats how that society is though she should have expected that the girls get married off for political gain and the boys get harems of their own and dont typically get married at all.
That's a stupid thing to say Mihrimah is not a toy she is a living human being and every human has right to live a life he/she want for himself/herself If her brothers lives are important and worthy then her life and happiness is equally important. Don't go too far to defend hurrem for doing evil act of forcing her daughter.
@@Wania25 you need to stop applying modern ideals to an antiquated story back then women were property especially in this society. is it right by our standards no but by theirs during that time yes it was expected of mihrimah to marry who her parents expected her to because she was a princess.
@micheleford4282 That's so sick of you to think like that no matter what the era is, every living being has a basic human right to live the life of their own choice. If hurrem married her love of life. Why not mihrimah? When mother of suleiman wanted hurrem to marry another guy in the very early episodes (when she lied about being pregnant but she actually was pregnant) that time why hurrem was not ready to be used as a property ? As you said women were like properties back then. Why did she oppose ? Why ? Because it was hurrem's right. She had every right to take the decision of her life. That time she even said to Maria that she will run away from the palace what does that means ? I'll tell you! That means If I'm not getting suleiman then I'm not Also not going to marry that guy because I don't want to marry him.. same is the case with mihirimah even if she didn't get bali bey then she she still had the right to oppose the idea of being married to the guy she never wanted. Now dont tell me this, that there is huge difference in case of hurrem and mihirimah. That back then princesses marriages were mostly based on politics and hurrem was not a princess like mihrimah so both of the cases are different.. No No absolutely not !!!! Mihrimah, other princesses and hurrem's all cases were same because before being a normal woman or before being princesses they all were human. Its absolutely no ones right to use them as a property for benefits or because of any kind of enmity with them(as suleiman mother had enmity with hurrem) Hurrem tricked suleiman and married him but now She doesn't even care about her daughter's love interest. Ok I understand she talked to Bali bey about this matter and he rejected mihrimah and his chapter was closed but still it is inhumane act to force mihrimah to marry the guy she never wanted. Hurrem loved suleiman so she married him but when it come to her daughter, her politics were more important for her than LOVE.
And of course the scene would be a TOTAL copy paste of Nigar’s wedding, for God’s sake! This screenwriter wasn’t writing a drama anymore, he was making a parody of the old series! That’s the way I see it, and that’s the way it is sadly…
It's henna. A 'henna party' is part of many wedding celebrations in India and the Middle East to this day. It's done the evening before the actual wedding ceremony and usually 'female only'. Kinda like a 'hen party' just less public and rowdy. I think, the bright orange stains on hands and feet are supposed to represent a happy marriage or something. I have only superficial knowledge of this, as I don't belong to a culture where this is done. But I'm sure you can easily find out more, as it's such a widely held custom.
Das ist eine grosssrtige folge ,ich habe mich totgelscht bei der szene,wo rüstem pasha plötzlich vor dem sultan,hürrem und lüfti pasha erscheint ,lüfti pasha dummes gesicht zu sehen war richtig toll,
Mihrimah actually held more power than her brothers because she was always safe from her father. He was free to spoil and love her without expectations. She wasn't a threat to him so he never guarded against her. She gained so much power she was i a consulate of women like her mother who even influenced world views and the government affairs. Simply unheard of. Her brothers also rarely said no to her in rl. One could say that she held the most power of all. She even ruled over Selim's hurrem as Valide instead of his women.
She wasn't a threat UNTIL she openly supports one brother over the other against them.
@@lisamonteleone13 I always figured if I was in that situation, i'd rather have a daughter and never understood why Hurrem wasn't more pleased. A daughter is safe, you are far less likely to lose her, and she'll be your support in the future.
@@rockdocandlittlebird Because in those times and religion, men held much more value than women. Having more sons secured Hurrem's power. If she only had Mihrimah, she would not have had the same power as she had in court.
@princess7jasmine but that was only in the show. In real life, the Sultan killed Baezid like Mustafa. Pretty much because he was following Mustafa and wanted to do what he saw him do.
@shirleyy2711 No doubt. That is in evidence in the harem itself. But consider this: he has bound to have had countless girls with other women. They were never killed. Yet only her and one other that came late in life and died young were favored above the others and givrn powerr.
Mihrihmah had been in love with Bali Bey since she was 3 years old. Everyone in the harem knew how she felt about her beloved Bali!! She was always talking about him and obsessed with him. Then when Hurrem tried to tell her that Bali had no feelings for her, she did not believe her. So, Hurrem arranged for Mihrihmah to hear from Bali himself on how "he looked at her as she was still a little girl, and could never think of her as anything else." It broke her heart to know that Bali would never Bey at her!!" And she was forced to marry Rusty Pasha instead!!
That's right. Since childhood, her heart was set on Bali Bey. how could she ever love another man? I was so sad when Bali Bey rejected her.
Mishima fell in love with one man after another. Had she married Bali Bae, she would have been more miserable. He got around alot with the ladies. If he cheated, she would have had him beheaded because her heart was involved. She fell for at least 3 or 4 men while with Rustem. All which would have broke her heart too. Ecause she was not their priority. Rustem was devoted to her. I believed she loved him a little as her Children's father. When he cheated on her from years of rejection while keeping her family safe, she was upset. But when she found out that he bought his life from Selim at the cost of Baezid, she finished him.
10:30 "So you're taking my leftovers, as usual" - so many times Mahidevran could have fantastic comebacks but the writers are so often focus on making Hürrem win every argument, they miss out on great dialogues opportunities.
i mean, didn't mahidevran also take gulfem's leftovers? and what other leftovers did she take? suleiman was aman in a harem that belonged to all the women, not just mahidevran. mahi should be more concerned about how easy it took hurrem to get suleiman by her side
With this specific writer, not even Hurrem is smart. 😂😂
That is true. Mihrihmah was very beautiful, powerful and rich. After her mother died, she helped her father as an advisor and financially. Then when Suleyman passed away, she was advisor and financially assisted Selim as Sultan.And was considered part of the Sultanate of women. To much of Nurbanu's chagrin.They were very much at odds with each other for the majority of time, until Mihrihmah retired to the Old Palace and died in 1578. Then Nurbanu only had to deal with Safiye, Murad's consort who was a thorn in her side till she popped off this mortal coil!!! Then Safiye had to deal with Kosem, and Kosem had to deal with Turhan. Then the Sultanate of women ended after Turhan, and no other women in the harem ever wielded power like that again!! So, the Sultanate started with Hurrem, Mihrihmah, Nurbanu, Safiye, Halime, Kosem, Turhan.
mahidevran always failed to see that she accused Hurrem of the exact same thing that she herself did. In her mind, she was justified, but Hurrem never was. She did the same thing to Gulfem that Hurrem did to here. Over and over. But two things Hurrem never did that Mahidevran did, make herself a victim or make her kids disloyal to their father.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
8:53 ibrahim also called her dragon, and now mahidevran. As per prophecy of episode 46, the future teller said that the dragon (hurrem sultan) will overcome everyone one by one! Then looked at her. Its happening!!!
She also fortolled that only one of Hurrems sons would make it
@@Wenchework yes
I never liked Rustem. I don't think I ever will, he's just kinda a creep imo.
4:29 hurrem proud
mihrimah was such a brat thinking she could marry for love when its clear that royals almost never marry for love.they marry to make stronger alliances for their family.
Mihrimah felt it was unjust as her brothers very much could have the woman they wanted due to the harem system when she couldn't
@@faizakhan4884 thats how that society is though she should have expected that the girls get married off for political gain and the boys get harems of their own and dont typically get married at all.
That's a stupid thing to say Mihrimah is not a toy she is a living human being and every human has right to live a life he/she want for himself/herself If her brothers lives are important and worthy then her life and happiness is equally important.
Don't go too far to defend hurrem for doing evil act of forcing her daughter.
@@Wania25 you need to stop applying modern ideals to an antiquated story back then women were property especially in this society. is it right by our standards no but by theirs during that time yes it was expected of mihrimah to marry who her parents expected her to because she was a princess.
@micheleford4282 That's so sick of you to think like that no matter what the era is, every living being has a basic human right to live the life of their own choice.
If hurrem married her love of life. Why not mihrimah? When mother of suleiman wanted hurrem to marry another guy in the very early episodes (when she lied about being pregnant but she actually was pregnant) that time why hurrem was not ready to be used as a property ? As you said women were like properties back then. Why did she oppose ? Why ? Because it was hurrem's right. She had every right to take the decision of her life. That time she even said to Maria that she will run away from the palace what does that means ? I'll tell you! That means If I'm not getting suleiman then I'm not Also not going to marry that guy because I don't want to marry him.. same is the case with mihirimah even if she didn't get bali bey then she she still had the right to oppose the idea of being married to the guy she never wanted. Now dont tell me this, that there is huge difference in case of hurrem and mihirimah. That back then princesses marriages were mostly based on politics and hurrem was not a princess like mihrimah so both of the cases are different.. No No absolutely not !!!! Mihrimah, other princesses and hurrem's all cases were same because before being a normal woman or before being princesses they all were human. Its absolutely no ones right to use them as a property for benefits or because of any kind of enmity with them(as suleiman mother had enmity with hurrem) Hurrem tricked suleiman and married him but now She doesn't even care about her daughter's love interest. Ok I understand she talked to Bali bey about this matter and he rejected mihrimah and his chapter was closed but still it is inhumane act to force mihrimah to marry the guy she never wanted.
Hurrem loved suleiman so she married him but when it come to her daughter, her politics were more important for her than LOVE.
Hurrem was hellishly selfish
Finally someone spoke the truth 👏
Say whatever about Rustem, his clothes are fabulous, like Suleiman.
Beautiful mahidevran ❤️😘
Beautiful and crazy
Her soul is too envious and corrupt to be beautiful.
😂😂😂😂😂@@patrickmartin6449
Beautiful song. I’m American and I do not understand what they are doing to Mihrimah’s hands. Help please.
Henna, I suspect.
They're applied henna on her hand it's ritual in Muslim n hindu wedding
Thank you for your reply.
And of course the scene would be a TOTAL copy paste of Nigar’s wedding, for God’s sake! This screenwriter wasn’t writing a drama anymore, he was making a parody of the old series! That’s the way I see it, and that’s the way it is sadly…
What was the substance they put in her hand? What is the meaning of that ritual?
It's henna. A 'henna party' is part of many wedding celebrations in India and the Middle East to this day. It's done the evening before the actual wedding ceremony and usually 'female only'. Kinda like a 'hen party' just less public and rowdy.
I think, the bright orange stains on hands and feet are supposed to represent a happy marriage or something. I have only superficial knowledge of this, as I don't belong to a culture where this is done.
But I'm sure you can easily find out more, as it's such a widely held custom.
Henna
@@raraavis7782 I read that it symbolizes good health and prosperity in a marriage.
Das ist eine grosssrtige folge ,ich habe mich totgelscht bei der szene,wo rüstem pasha plötzlich vor dem sultan,hürrem und lüfti pasha erscheint ,lüfti pasha dummes gesicht zu sehen war richtig toll,
If Hürrem bestows her mercy upon you , you will be indebted for life . This is how she made Mihrimah pay the fact she was born a girl .
Thiis is the sean where rustem turn maggot to pasha
His look changed to nobel man
13:27 thats because she is valide sultan. She will be. Its her position.
She dies before she became on officially.
@@lisamonteleone13 she was valide sultan
Shut up, and respect other opinions
She died before she achieved the title, that's a fact
@@legostarline5197 she was valide sultan
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18:19
Nigar are very special, her scandal Hatice Sultan Husbands. xHusband become Mihrimah Sultan Husbands. 😂