The 6 ARC is a really cool cartridge!! I've been wanting to build one for a while now and just bought a barrel yesterday. After how good the 20 inch Proof Research match barrel I bought for my 6.5 Grendel shot I went with the same barrel for my 6 ARC. Now I'm playing the waiting game on parts to come back into stock but I can't wait to get it out on the range to shoot... Can't wait to see how this one looks and shoots when you finish it and great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
@@RobsReloading nope and you would think being one of the only bolt action 6 arc rifles on the market more would be released on it. However there’s not much out there on the arc either. Lots of potential for hand loaders with that round tho!
I have replaced stocks and sometimes it's a great solution. I love thumbhole stocks. Sometimes you really need to bed those stocks to even shoot well. There is more to purchasing a stock it doesn't end there. Also, for the less savvy people out there often the stock that comes on the rifle if torqued correctly will shoot better than another stock that may be prettier and be more to one's liking. The Savage stocks are usually pillar bedded even though they are steel pillars and if they are installed correctly in the stock and make good contact and you have the right torque on the stock to action screws, they won't shoot any better with another stock, but they may be prettier. Having said that some of the factory stocks pillars may not make good contact especially if the torque on the stock screws is wrong. Very nice video. I enjoy less expensive rifles that shoot good. I own a lot of Savage rifles and they all shoot pretty darn good. Nice thumbhole stock on one of them too. But I will need to consider a bedding job on it in the future. The factory stock on that one did not really work out and my thumbhole did shoot better, but it still needs a little help to shoot even better. Reluctant to do the bedding because I am afraid of screwing up the nice finish I have on the stock I bought. Boyd's makes some very nice stocks for you people looking for pretty and functional stocks for a fair price.
Which Chassis are you considering to put it on? I am assuming this is a 110 action so it will work on the MDT LSS Chassis (that is the one i am planning to)
@@javierlong It is a 110, so I guess that means it is a long action. The mdt ess is applying, but spendy.I would like to see what other people do with theirs.
I am very impresed with the 6MM ARC cartridge. I built two gas rifles, 18" and a 12.5" versions. They shoot fantastic with this 6mm bullet. MOA all day, from an AR platform. The bolt rifle will obviously do much better, but i am impressed with a 1-1.25" group at 100 yards, with factory 108 grain match ammo, out of a 12.5" barreled AR15 in this caliber.
I think the stock is awesome since it is dirt cheap. As a result, we can buy the cheapest possible 110 barrel action with a 22” threaded barrel. In 6 ARC, their other option is the more expensive Tactical with a shorter barrel and a stock I don’t want. Now, I wait for Black Friday to buy the chassis I want for it.
The Tactical comes in a short barrel version and a long barrel version. It also comes with a better magazine and an accu-stock. You need to do your homework. However, do as you wish because in the end you only need to please yourself.
@@garrytalley8009 In 6ARC, the tactical only comes in the 18" version according to Savage's customer service department (I called to check). If there are longer barreled tactical s out there, I could not find one - I looked. For other cartridges, they do offer the Tactical with longer barrels.
Loaded to Hornady's maximum bolt gun pressure of 62,000 psi, QuickLOAD likes RL17 for top velocity with the 1.26" long 105 grain BTHP that is in the Hornady Black. In a 34.5 grain H2O capacity case, 2835 fps is predicted from a 110% compressed charge out of the 22 inch barrel, loaded to 2.260" (if that is even possible). That's with 31 grains- but, as always, start very low and work up! That predicted velocity increases to 2936 fps out of a 26" barrel, so 25 fps per extra inch of barrel.
So I ran a quick test with r17 that will be coming to the channel and QL predictions were just a little higher than observed. Can you run the Calc with stabal 6.5 or h4350?
@@RobsReloading StaBall 6.5 at max bolt gun pressure with 108 grain ELD-M loaded to 2.300" shows max charge 31.9 grains and compressed at 106.7% and 2688 fps. 99.5% burned.
@@dahut3614 interesting all these powders are mysteriously not included in hornady load data. These slow powders seems to be generating quite impressive numbers to be omitted.
@@RobsReloading H4350 at max bolt gun pressure with 108 grain ELD-M loaded to 2.300" shows max charge of 30.3 grains and would be very compressed at 111.5% with 2671 fps and 94.85% burned. 30.2 grains is max for the IMR 4350, similar velocity but 109.3% compressed.
@@dahut3614 interesting numbers. Wish the throat was a little longer and could push oal a little and those powders would probably be the perfect fit. A custom chamber bolt arc would probably be the ticket.
I have the gas gun from Atheris Rifle Co. I also have the same scope. I really like the setup! If you care to, I have a review and video of 5 shot groups. I might have to pick up this bolt gun. Thanks for the video. Subscribed!
I have watched your play list on 6ARC several times. I picked up a Switchback, myself, but have considered converting it to a 6BR. Any thoughts on that? Keep the videos coming. Love them all.
The reason I inquired about the Switchback conversion, it felt it would be an easy one. Swap bolt head and have a smith run a reamer in to clean chamber up. Two issues I see…money wise, not sure if I would be much better off once I got a new stock, mag, smith work and bolt head vs getting a new barrel cut for my Daniel Defense Delta 5 Pro. The second issue is that I don’t feel the switchback factory barrel is going to be of a quality to allow the 6BR to shine vs the current 6ARC.
Hey you got one! Fortunately, that was a pretty good group out of the box or I would have felt really bad. How about measuring me a case volume? I hope you got the $50 coupon with your $200 purchase (valid 12/6 through 12/16) and the store employee didn't keep it!
@@dahut3614 yes mounted it in my xrs removed from my 6.5 creedmoor and shot it today. The mdt chassis has a cutout for the bottom bolt release, and no issue with recoil lug.
Rob, are you getting a line appearing at the web on your brass? I started out shooting factory ammo to make brass and after the first firing the line showed up. Same rifle.
You mentioned you are going to put the gun in an mdt xrs. Will the xrs work with the front mag release? I got an xrs for savage sa on black friday too. Looking for a gun to put in it.
The powder is ball powder and is designed to work and operate a gas gun. And since you can run higher pressure in a bolt gun, you can hand load and get some screaming fast loads...just don't put that load in your gas guns lol
People have to realize that this is not a benchrest gun! If you want to put another 1000.00 dollars into a a budget rifle to make it shoot sub 1/2" that's up to the buyer? or your could just buy a better gun to start? This is a very good little gun for its price point and a good choice for recoil sensitive shooters
I've been messing with QuickLOAD again. *I still need an actual fired case volume,* so I've been using a volume of 34.5 grains of H2O. I ran some of Hornady's bolt gun data and it shows way over pressure and some seriously compressed charges. The C.O.L. of the 105 grain BTHP, which I believe is in the Hornady Black is listed at 2.200". I know some people were running into the lands in SAAMI chambers with factory loaded rounds when the cartridge first came out, maybe that's why it's short. For their max charge of 30.8 grains of LEVERevolution, QL shows a 117.3% case fill with 71,781 psi of pressure and 2880 fps from a 22" barrel. I didn't know it could even be compressed that much. Be very careful with their data.
@@RobsReloading A 1.6" long 105 grain BTHP loaded to 2.205" with 30.8 grains of RL-17 is a 110% compressed load predicted to be a near maximum pressure (61,256 psi) and producing 2828 fps.
@@RobsReloading *If* it can be loaded that long and if it is not touching the lands, the maximum predicted charge for the 108 grain ELD-M is 31.2 grains of RL-17 (108.7% compressed) producing 2815 fps and 61,727 psi. Supersonic to 1350 yards!
All you kept talking about the entire video was the """"""""""STOCK""""""""""""...!!! Geeze I would never have guessed you didn't like the stock...!!! I bet you're a handful at Breakfast. Get over it.
It looks like my comment about which 6mm pellets were in stock at she'll + z yesterday was deleted. I provided no actual links and used no dot com in the name. The store's specific projectile search is broken and instead you have to use the main search for 6mm and/or .243. There are some of the 108 grain ELD-M as well as some 108 grain Berger Elite Hunters, and they also have the ELD-X seating stem from Hornady, but only 90 grain in that style.
Thats pretty awesome for a stock rifle and factory ammo. Looks like 6 arc is a winner.
The 6 ARC is a really cool cartridge!! I've been wanting to build one for a while now and just bought a barrel yesterday. After how good the 20 inch Proof Research match barrel I bought for my 6.5 Grendel shot I went with the same barrel for my 6 ARC. Now I'm playing the waiting game on parts to come back into stock but I can't wait to get it out on the range to shoot... Can't wait to see how this one looks and shoots when you finish it and great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Sounds like a nice build. Thanks for the kind words.
Good job an great shooting, that’s the way more videos should start off out of the box shooting and no sugar coating, keep them coming
Thanks for the review! That XRS chassis will be a great upgrade and will improve groups and overall feel.👍
Once you start shooting with nice comfortable stocks/chassis you never go back! She seems like a shooter so far!
Boy, even with the “stock” stock it sure shot well. I saw a later video with the new stock and it’s certainly looking like a sweet shooter!
Glad someone did a review on this rifle
There is not much information out there about this rifle.
@@RobsReloading nope and you would think being one of the only bolt action 6 arc rifles on the market more would be released on it. However there’s not much out there on the arc either. Lots of potential for hand loaders with that round tho!
@@MrBoostin18 I've thought about doing an actual in dept review of this gun for that reason.
@@RobsReloading be interesting to see. Thanks for this initial review. I will def be picking one up.
Great start. Interesting offering. We are very pleased with our 110 Storm & 110 Apex Storm we bought @ the end of 2020.
I have replaced stocks and sometimes it's a great solution. I love thumbhole stocks. Sometimes you really need to bed those stocks to even shoot well. There is more to purchasing a stock it doesn't end there. Also, for the less savvy people out there often the stock that comes on the rifle if torqued correctly will shoot better than another stock that may be prettier and be more to one's liking. The Savage stocks are usually pillar bedded even though they are steel pillars and if they are installed correctly in the stock and make good contact and you have the right torque on the stock to action screws, they won't shoot any better with another stock, but they may be prettier. Having said that some of the factory stocks pillars may not make good contact especially if the torque on the stock screws is wrong. Very nice video. I enjoy less expensive rifles that shoot good. I own a lot of Savage rifles and they all shoot pretty darn good. Nice thumbhole stock on one of them too. But I will need to consider a bedding job on it in the future. The factory stock on that one did not really work out and my thumbhole did shoot better, but it still needs a little help to shoot even better. Reluctant to do the bedding because I am afraid of screwing up the nice finish I have on the stock I bought. Boyd's makes some very nice stocks for you people looking for pretty and functional stocks for a fair price.
I love 6ARC gas gun . It's my favorite AR15 cartridge for sure .
Thanks for the review. I got one of these from my Spotsmans Warehouse. I haven’t shot it yet, I am also planning on putting it in a chassis.
I'm thinking of doing the same thing getting one put it in a chassis
Which Chassis are you considering to put it on? I am assuming this is a 110 action so it will work on the MDT LSS Chassis (that is the one i am planning to)
@@javierlong It is a 110, so I guess that means it is a long action. The mdt ess is applying, but spendy.I would like to see what other people do with theirs.
Number 1! Thank you Rob for another great video!
I am very impresed with the 6MM ARC cartridge. I built two gas rifles, 18" and a 12.5" versions. They shoot fantastic with this 6mm bullet. MOA all day, from an AR platform. The bolt rifle will obviously do much better, but i am impressed with a 1-1.25" group at 100 yards, with factory 108 grain match ammo, out of a 12.5" barreled AR15 in this caliber.
Love my 6 arc.
I think the stock is awesome since it is dirt cheap. As a result, we can buy the cheapest possible 110 barrel action with a 22” threaded barrel. In 6 ARC, their other option is the more expensive Tactical with a shorter barrel and a stock I don’t want. Now, I wait for Black Friday to buy the chassis I want for it.
That is a good point. Same reason I bought the gun. Wish they offered the switchback in more chamberings.
The Tactical comes in a short barrel version and a long barrel version. It also comes with a better magazine and an accu-stock. You need to do your homework. However, do as you wish because in the end you only need to please yourself.
@@garrytalley8009 In 6ARC, the tactical only comes in the 18" version according to Savage's customer service department (I called to check). If there are longer barreled tactical s out there, I could not find one - I looked. For other cartridges, they do offer the Tactical with longer barrels.
Loaded to Hornady's maximum bolt gun pressure of 62,000 psi, QuickLOAD likes RL17 for top velocity with the 1.26" long 105 grain BTHP that is in the Hornady Black. In a 34.5 grain H2O capacity case, 2835 fps is predicted from a 110% compressed charge out of the 22 inch barrel, loaded to 2.260" (if that is even possible). That's with 31 grains- but, as always, start very low and work up! That predicted velocity increases to 2936 fps out of a 26" barrel, so 25 fps per extra inch of barrel.
So I ran a quick test with r17 that will be coming to the channel and QL predictions were just a little higher than observed. Can you run the Calc with stabal 6.5 or h4350?
@@RobsReloading StaBall 6.5 at max bolt gun pressure with 108 grain ELD-M loaded to 2.300" shows max charge 31.9 grains and compressed at 106.7% and 2688 fps. 99.5% burned.
@@dahut3614 interesting all these powders are mysteriously not included in hornady load data. These slow powders seems to be generating quite impressive numbers to be omitted.
@@RobsReloading H4350 at max bolt gun pressure with 108 grain ELD-M loaded to 2.300" shows max charge of 30.3 grains and would be very compressed at 111.5% with 2671 fps and 94.85% burned. 30.2 grains is max for the IMR 4350, similar velocity but 109.3% compressed.
@@dahut3614 interesting numbers. Wish the throat was a little longer and could push oal a little and those powders would probably be the perfect fit. A custom chamber bolt arc would probably be the ticket.
elevation looked great not sure the barrel cleaning really made a difference, looking forward to see more videos in a bolt with 6mm arc thanks
I have many videos up now with the 6 Arc, check my playlists
I have the gas gun from Atheris Rifle Co. I also have the same scope. I really like the setup! If you care to, I have a review and video of 5 shot groups. I might have to pick up this bolt gun. Thanks for the video. Subscribed!
I have watched your play list on 6ARC several times. I picked up a Switchback, myself, but have considered converting it to a 6BR. Any thoughts on that? Keep the videos coming. Love them all.
Have you watched my 6BrA playlist?
Oh yeah! That is what got me interested in the 6BR’s.
@@kriskyzer7912 it’s very similar to 6 arc in performance
The reason I inquired about the Switchback conversion, it felt it would be an easy one. Swap bolt head and have a smith run a reamer in to clean chamber up. Two issues I see…money wise, not sure if I would be much better off once I got a new stock, mag, smith work and bolt head vs getting a new barrel cut for my Daniel Defense Delta 5 Pro. The second issue is that I don’t feel the switchback factory barrel is going to be of a quality to allow the 6BR to shine vs the current 6ARC.
morning Rob 🌄
Just ordered the same rifle in 6 ARC and I’m thinking about an XRS chassis for it. How much did you pay for it during their Black Friday sale?
Hey you got one! Fortunately, that was a pretty good group out of the box or I would have felt really bad. How about measuring me a case volume? I hope you got the $50 coupon with your $200 purchase (valid 12/6 through 12/16) and the store employee didn't keep it!
Did not get any gift card? Mdt mag on the way. Just shot it out of my xrs with with 308 mag and seemed to function just fine.
So you put it in your XRS? If so, any issues with the recoil lug or bolt release?
@@dahut3614 yes mounted it in my xrs removed from my 6.5 creedmoor and shot it today. The mdt chassis has a cutout for the bottom bolt release, and no issue with recoil lug.
Rob, are you getting a line appearing at the web on your brass? I started out shooting factory ammo to make brass and after the first firing the line showed up. Same rifle.
You mentioned you are going to put the gun in an mdt xrs. Will the xrs work with the front mag release? I got an xrs for savage sa on black friday too. Looking for a gun to put in it.
Yes check out my channel I have 4-5 videos with this rifle in the xrs now.
The powder is ball powder and is designed to work and operate a gas gun. And since you can run higher pressure in a bolt gun, you can hand load and get some screaming fast loads...just don't put that load in your gas guns lol
Thank you 😊
Really believe savage
What's next rob? 🤔
People have to realize that this is not a benchrest gun! If you want to put another 1000.00 dollars into a a budget rifle to make it shoot sub 1/2" that's up to the buyer? or your could just buy a better gun to start? This is a very good little gun for its price point and a good choice for recoil sensitive shooters
Hopefully this means savage will be offering a 6.5 Grendel👀
Now don't get me wrong . But I would like to see the 6 mm ARC using 55 to 100 gr in a AR 15 not no bolt action .
How are you removing the bolt after putting it in the chassis?
The chassis has a cutout for the bolt release.
Whats some handloads going to be for this one? And what’s some speeds you’re gonna be shooting for?
105-110gr at 2700-2800fps
Why’s your scope so far forward
Scope is set up for the proper eye relief for myself.
@@RobsReloading suggest you watch oneilops channel on how to mount a scope
22 inch barrel? Why build a fire and then pour water on it with a 22" barrel. ?
That's what savage offers? Think I shoulda gone with a 32"?
I've been messing with QuickLOAD again. *I still need an actual fired case volume,* so I've been using a volume of 34.5 grains of H2O. I ran some of Hornady's bolt gun data and it shows way over pressure and some seriously compressed charges. The C.O.L. of the 105 grain BTHP, which I believe is in the Hornady Black is listed at 2.200". I know some people were running into the lands in SAAMI chambers with factory loaded rounds when the cartridge first came out, maybe that's why it's short. For their max charge of 30.8 grains of LEVERevolution, QL shows a 117.3% case fill with 71,781 psi of pressure and 2880 fps from a 22" barrel. I didn't know it could even be compressed that much. Be very careful with their data.
Case capacity from 6.5 g brass after fired in 6 arc is 34.9 gr. Oal of my factory hornady ammo is 2.205".
Reloader 17 I'm guessing is way to bulky to get that much powder in unless they were able to be loaded very long.
@@RobsReloading A 1.6" long 105 grain BTHP loaded to 2.205" with 30.8 grains of RL-17 is a 110% compressed load predicted to be a near maximum pressure (61,256 psi) and producing 2828 fps.
@@dahut3614 that's interesting hornady doesn't list load data with r17. What's it predict for the 108eld at 2.3 coal
@@RobsReloading *If* it can be loaded that long and if it is not touching the lands, the maximum predicted charge for the 108 grain ELD-M is 31.2 grains of RL-17 (108.7% compressed) producing 2815 fps and 61,727 psi. Supersonic to 1350 yards!
What height are those rings?
Wow, the front scope ring is barely on the rail.
The rail runs past the front scope ring.
All you kept talking about the entire video was the """"""""""STOCK""""""""""""...!!! Geeze I would never have guessed you didn't like the stock...!!! I bet you're a handful at Breakfast. Get over it.
Barrel break in is a total waste of time.......
agreed
It looks like my comment about which 6mm pellets were in stock at she'll + z yesterday was deleted. I provided no actual links and used no dot com in the name. The store's specific projectile search is broken and instead you have to use the main search for 6mm and/or .243. There are some of the 108 grain ELD-M as well as some 108 grain Berger Elite Hunters, and they also have the ELD-X seating stem from Hornady, but only 90 grain in that style.
Lol wild how they keeps tabs on comments. I'll check them out. Forming some six arc brass as I comment this.
Those Bergers are the same length and have the same B.C. as the Hornady ELD-Ms of the same weight.
For under 500 dollars its awesome