What Blizzard (Hopefully) Learned from the Mythic+ Invitational

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  • @stevevaii1094
    @stevevaii1094 7 років тому +12

    There were also streams of different languages around. China + APAC had around 40k viewers, US around 45k and EU over 50k viewers.

    • @kukkopillu
      @kukkopillu 7 років тому

      EU speaks english bro

    • @stevevaii1094
      @stevevaii1094 7 років тому

      There were a russian stream, german stream, france stream and whatever for 3rd world languages around all with hundreds and thousands of viewers besides the blizzard ones.

    • @TheCyricson
      @TheCyricson 7 років тому

      do you even know what 3rd world is?

    • @kukkopillu
      @kukkopillu 7 років тому +1

      Well if you live in EU and the majority of your country doesn't speak English, it's because those countries dub their pokemóns to their own language and then the children never learn english. I'm glad that my "3rd world" country didn't dub our pokemons. ps. its fucking stupid not to know english in 2k17

  • @savik90
    @savik90 7 років тому +9

    The viewcount was actually alot bigger, since there was alot of different streams on different languages

  • @Asmongold_CatDany
    @Asmongold_CatDany 7 років тому +74

    BUGGED TOURNAMENT OMEGALUL
    1200 SCORE CASTERS OMEGALUL

    • @barial1
      @barial1 7 років тому +3

      Thinking M+ score matters in 2017 ZULUL

    • @Asmongold_CatDany
      @Asmongold_CatDany 7 років тому +5

      Misusing emotes FeelsWeirdMan
      But for real though, the casters didn't notice the bug completely. I don't blame them - whoever organized and directed the tournament is at fault.

    • @dionysues7449
      @dionysues7449 7 років тому

      CatDany [Asmongold Highlights] What is next... PET BATTLE TOURNAMENTS!?

    • @yoinkau
      @yoinkau 7 років тому

      CATDANYYYYY

    • @Mr_M_1
      @Mr_M_1 7 років тому

      Whats up yall

  •  7 років тому

    Loved MDI, really hope to see it again. As you pointed out, there is lots to be done in the UI. Also the production team behind the scenes need to better communicate if/when something happens to the casters so they can better commentate on the competition. Big CD's is a really nice addition I like to see in the UI. The thing you said about jumping into POV's of the players in certain tricky moments would be awesome if they find a way to do it. Perhaps multiple streams so we as viewers can choose to follow only 1 team with a very small pip for the commentators and/or other team. Was way to much screen commited to non-essential stuff. A small banner displaying affixes, boss timers, etc could do the same job imo. And then free up that space for the actual game play.

  • @shootingdrgn
    @shootingdrgn 7 років тому +1

    I agree with everything you said except the battle rez thing.. strictly because there were times where teams only took 2 classes with battle res and there were times where teams didn't take rogues even though shroud of concealment is amazing for skipping unnecessary trash.. so I believe teams were picking for a multitude of reasons and I think that picking classes for strats is very viable... for instance taking a pally oakheart, very easily the best UTILITY for it but there were plenty of times where they just took different classes and used different strats for that boss, ie not even worrying about the roots at all. So I thin trying to limit actually strategy will just actually limit the amount of differences we will see in teams. But I thought the tournament was awesome and would love to start seeing more.

  • @masarry5127
    @masarry5127 7 років тому

    What i would like to see from asmongold is a host to the turney instead of a full stream at the same time. Keep up the great work mate, loveing your streams and videos

  • @TsunamiGamingBE
    @TsunamiGamingBE 7 років тому

    Battle ress is a utility tool like another though. I don't think they should change that. You can always argue something else like an immunity class wouldn't make you die in the first place, which also allow you to keep the 5 seconds you lose from dying. You don't see people running 5 immunity classes either, because you really want to have an extra stun or whatever. Some people run Resto Shaman for stun and interrupt, others run Resto Druid for defensive bear form and a ress and then there's people running Paladin for other utility reasons and nice damage output. Also the actual battle ress has a high CD and you still lose the seconds, so in theory taking things that prevent you from dying in the first place are still more efficient.

  • @EzekielyoWoW
    @EzekielyoWoW 7 років тому

    Couldn't agree more. I'm glad you raised some of these topics in a video and hopefully this gets a lot of exposure!
    I think there are a lot of issues to iron out first (imbalances between classes, stacking bres like you say) before an official in game leaderboard can be announced. I think that the seasons idea is a bit more competitive than the bronze/silver/gold system which I think m+ will need (the prestige value). Maybe there could be a leader board which is only available once you hit gold similar to how Hots does the GM ladder: you can only see yourself on a leader board once you have reached the highest bracket of play.

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki 7 років тому

    Yo asmo how long do you think u will continue playing wow? If the next expacs are like legion u think u will have a long way with the game?

  • @xapemanx
    @xapemanx 7 років тому +1

    wish i knew what legendaries they were using during the tournament

  • @Jaggeh33
    @Jaggeh33 7 років тому +2

    Mythic + inv. has been on my loader screen every day for the last week.

  • @Ruodhaid
    @Ruodhaid 7 років тому

    would be nice if the ui showed bloodlust cd / debuff , combatress cd / numers of combat resses ready

  • @knifetoucher
    @knifetoucher 7 років тому +1

    There were over 35k viewers during the EU M+ Invitational on Sat.

    • @kbtdadap
      @kbtdadap 7 років тому

      this fuckin clown in the video almost that on his streams..

  • @Bawk
    @Bawk 7 років тому

    I agree on the bugs -- Blizzard needs to sort them out. I've been running high keys & what really bothers me is that Lower Karazhan still has floor issues with certain AoE spells. Starfall (Moonkin) and Arcane Explosion (Arcane Mage) still aggro trash from lower floors before and after the first boss. Every time then ran Moonkins in that Lower Kara during MDI, my heart skipped a beat because I was worried they were going to pull. How embarrassing would that be if it actually happened live while 30k+ people were watching. Just as awful as the cage bug in Maw of Souls.
    Love all your view points, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • @alw9322
    @alw9322 7 років тому

    they need to improve camera view and also make it so we can see whats getting cast in some way to increase immersion.

  • @fredmyers8366
    @fredmyers8366 7 років тому

    Show when they change gear, show legendary and it's CD if it has one. and they added at the end showing the spec and gear outs that should be at loadout for each character.

  • @rhysatkin-smith6731
    @rhysatkin-smith6731 7 років тому +2

    I couldnt agree more with this video; I've recently come back to WoW after a 7 year "break" as a result of watching you for the last year and even i've been watching the Mythic+ Dungeons Tournaments. As a new player to Legion, watching the best players stomp through the hardest dungeons allows me to see how they use rotations, movements, placement etc and implement that into my own play. Blizzard dun gud but they need to up their advertising and marketing big time; nobody gives a fuck about Brewfest...

  • @ahmadsoliman9919
    @ahmadsoliman9919 7 років тому

    I like the ideas you proposed for the spectator UI :)

  • @DiZzYDeNnis2k9
    @DiZzYDeNnis2k9 7 років тому +1

    The German stream had an additional steady 3-5k viewers btw.

  • @lukeakaxodius
    @lukeakaxodius 7 років тому

    they should also do a class stacking ban one 1 class per run, double war and double rogue was waaaay too common

  • @Lesterow428
    @Lesterow428 7 років тому

    i think its actually a great idea to make a +17 these days the challenge for another pair of challenge mode gear/weapons like mop/wod.. never thought about that. it would at least make me very engaged about m+ and make me try to push it. since +10 is really the only thing you need to do today and its kinda boring only the challenge itself wont make many player beat the timer

  • @mikoajniedziela7383
    @mikoajniedziela7383 7 років тому

    Asmon, they had the invitational advertised in the launcher every time it was live. While I do think they should have made it much more visible, perhaps overlay the whole launcher when you first open it when it's live, it was still very much visible.

  • @Karishin32
    @Karishin32 7 років тому +5

    Blizzard learn from something? I'm sure they'll blame the guy who got stuck in the cage for being stuck.

  • @iMETTI
    @iMETTI 7 років тому

    How does he do that when he switches trinkets in the character panel?

  • @ThatGenericCanadian
    @ThatGenericCanadian 7 років тому +2

    I didn't know this was going on until a coworker asked me if I was watching it... Wish they had advertised it more, I'd have watched it.

  • @BoxIsOnRoidsElOhEl
    @BoxIsOnRoidsElOhEl 7 років тому

    Great video Az!

  • @carlosdv3384
    @carlosdv3384 7 років тому

    Why did he used all his aoe cds in the pull before the 2 bears (before 1st boss), when the bears are way more harder??

  • @sanchy1337
    @sanchy1337 7 років тому

    UI for tournament us terrible, like 2/5 of the screen are reserved for "blizzard logo" and just black-green screen.
    When is stream , who are teams , who are players? Who knows, we get no info about any of it.
    And probably most frustrating thing , we have no data in game who are best players in m+ on server , what is their time, what dungeons etc. We need to leave the game to go to some website to find out who are best players.
    But overall not bad for 1st pve wow tournament.

  • @martinjanata2937
    @martinjanata2937 7 років тому +12

    You forgot to mention Slootbag's puns ;) Definitely kept the stream entertained :D :D

    • @NikolaBrkusanin
      @NikolaBrkusanin 7 років тому +2

      Some bad RNG for them there in otherwise RNG free expansion... When he dropped that line i almost died from laughing... That guy is really good! :D

  • @oehan5641
    @oehan5641 7 років тому

    I love the hunter disengage and DH fel rush DC bugs, really adds to my immersion Kappa

  • @maxpheby7287
    @maxpheby7287 7 років тому

    Maybe you can do a weekly video on the mythic plus stuff (if it go's on long enough).

  • @Aidose98
    @Aidose98 7 років тому

    I hope they do some crazy/cool or different things and maybe when they do smaller invitationals like this or at Blizzcon, bust out an affix they have had in development and give the teams competing something new to work with and not something they now to bring a dk for mass grip for or Druid with stampeding roar. That's something I hope they surprise us with

  • @1010-q8f
    @1010-q8f 7 років тому +11

    its ya boy

  • @Dumbmelee
    @Dumbmelee 7 років тому

    00:00 HE SAID IT PogChamp

  • @beverlydingus
    @beverlydingus 7 років тому

    there was a link to the stream on the launcher when it was going on

  • @Wilburbruh
    @Wilburbruh 7 років тому +121

    Hopefully they learned that ASMONGOLD SUBS RULE THE EMOTE GAME MOTHERFUCKERSSSSS

    • @dharcsu
      @dharcsu 7 років тому +2

      His emotes are really shit right now, I hope he steps up the game.

    • @Babachaw
      @Babachaw 7 років тому +16

      You are shit

    • @BigMilo0
      @BigMilo0 7 років тому +4

      normie btw haHAA

    • @Jason-wt8oe
      @Jason-wt8oe 7 років тому

      You are a really angry person.

    • @Wilburbruh
      @Wilburbruh 7 років тому +7

      Ducky1521 *lol talks about keyboard warriors, and is the only one who typed a 50 word paragraph. KeK*

  • @introvertsunited5526
    @introvertsunited5526 7 років тому

    Blizz should give an extra action button b-rez to all members in M+ and treat them the same as in raids. This way all classes are viable and you have to be smart about when to use them. Let the unused ones stack over the entire dungeon as well.

  • @phunkym8
    @phunkym8 7 років тому

    im totally for interface changes. but they need to do something about class and spec representation. nobody brings shadowpriests, enhancement or survival. like in arena it gets boring seeing the same group setups almost all the time.

  • @ezasthat5717
    @ezasthat5717 7 років тому

    I didnt even know there was a mythic + invitational but i sure would have loved to watch it live

  • @metropolismonke
    @metropolismonke 7 років тому +1

    To be fair, this is the first Mythic+ invitational while PvP streams have been going on for more than 10 years.
    It's a new thing, of course people will be curious..

    • @neobahumuth6
      @neobahumuth6 7 років тому

      I do agree that is too soon to say which is more fun or popular to watch

  • @Ahlizz
    @Ahlizz 7 років тому

    what is the m+ addon you use?

  • @Wild_Open
    @Wild_Open 7 років тому

    They have it on the launcher by the way. I found out about it through that.

  • @Langehorn
    @Langehorn 7 років тому

    thank you zack for making this amazing content. well thought out and structured video. exactly what the community (and blizzard) needs!

  • @Carclary
    @Carclary 7 років тому

    I love the amount of puns during the Invitational

  • @alw9322
    @alw9322 7 років тому

    HI youtube comments, what addon tracks his cds? cheers.

  • @alexjake56
    @alexjake56 7 років тому

    Woah playing arms warrior what happened to fury?

  • @Shaktar
    @Shaktar 7 років тому

    Yeah, I thought Brez made the runs a little boring. Because if a team could manage to keep rezzing without running back or something, you basically know who would win starting the run as soon a team hit the boss first. I would remove brez completely from M+I, but would be glad with alternatives to nerf it so ir wouldnt be such an advantage against classes that didnt have.

  • @VampireSakuya
    @VampireSakuya 7 років тому

    I love the fact that they decided to take a chance and do a PvE event like this. I feel like I personally have a shot at getting in (tho I really don't...) rather than just knowing that I really suck at PvP, because I'm a filthy casual. :P I definitely agree with the reasons you already outlined (Able to know more of what's going on, etc). The positives really do outweigh the negatives, if there are any.

  • @anagalf
    @anagalf 7 років тому

    But Blizz did advertise the event in launcher thou

  • @MoltiSanti
    @MoltiSanti 7 років тому

    Lack of marketing in the launcher, an analyst desk during breaks, improvements to the UI (which was my least favorite part of the stream), better production quality (I'm surprised there was no option for 1080p on the stream); all great points. I think Blizzard could learn a thing or two from Valve's Dota 2 TI streams, they've had years of esports-broadcasting experience and it's always enjoyable to watch (minus some production goofs and other technical difficulties that can cause wait times).

  • @Jaigarful
    @Jaigarful 7 років тому

    How many years have we had the Isle of Conquest exploit where Alliance could defuse bombs through the gate?

  • @riklaunim
    @riklaunim 7 років тому

    I see M+ invitational box next to the big box with brew fest and stuff. When it's streamed it's more.

  • @ProfitWord
    @ProfitWord 7 років тому

    Sacrolashes dark strike lego ring for affliction warlocks makes the first boss in vault if the wardens bug... so frustrating.

  • @garberjem
    @garberjem 7 років тому

    Wasn't Cathedral?

  • @chrthdestr
    @chrthdestr 7 років тому

    I'd love the m+ seasons. A mix of classic Challenge Modes and M+ would be my entire way of wow-life.

  • @louisantaya17
    @louisantaya17 7 років тому

    I do a shitload of m+ and the main thing I adapted from it was those nelth pulls on teeming with the pelters. 4 FUCKING PELTERS. I just pull aoe, then run away and they just stack. EZ PZ was great to watch and tons of fun.
    Also mate, just wanna say I love the way the channel is going grats man you deserve it :)

  • @BrendanOriginal
    @BrendanOriginal 7 років тому

    They had it on the launcher that's how I figured out it was happening. I really enjoyed the mdi even more than the arena tourneys. Really excited to see where this takes wow pve esports I guess you could call it lol

  • @Septurez
    @Septurez 7 років тому +4

    Hopefully they learned from the last 4 expacs

  • @thomasrohler2819
    @thomasrohler2819 7 років тому

    Arms or fury for pve??

  • @Nooctae
    @Nooctae 7 років тому

    About the bugs and "exploits", I'm a good friend of Mionelol ( the solo dk/dh ) and he told me Blizzard directly contacted Mione to get a list of what was needed to be fixed bug wise in the dungeons.
    It's kinda weird they didn't fix everything.

    • @Mercuryanka
      @Mercuryanka 7 років тому

      coz WoW is not their priority anymore, they don't give 2 shits about the quality of things. But hey, Battlenet has emojis now. That makes it up for that, right?

  • @UnoDPS
    @UnoDPS 7 років тому

    They should make a ranked system for Mythic+ with bronze-silver-gold-platinum-diamond-master-grandmaster ranks and also implement seasons with achievements and titles, that would incentivize even more people into playing Mythic+ and that way make the audience for the Mythic+'s competitive scene grow.
    What do you guys think?

  • @RaidenSaya
    @RaidenSaya 7 років тому

    I can't wait to see Asmongold at the next Mythic+ Invitational.

  • @Alex-zc3bj
    @Alex-zc3bj 7 років тому

    8:21 who is mary jana? kappa

  • @Angel0fDeath93
    @Angel0fDeath93 7 років тому

    Love these vids man, keep sayin it how it is!

  • @vitsavicky
    @vitsavicky 7 років тому

    I don't think throttling Battle Resses would be an OK thing to do. Other than BR the Druid has nothing. It is basically his only utility. Compared to a Paladin who has a ton of utility it just wouldn't be fair to basically take away the utility of one tank and not others.
    Full disclosure: I main a Druid. :)

  • @izadarx
    @izadarx 7 років тому

    17:38 I'm like hey what's up hello

  • @muumuumu
    @muumuumu 7 років тому

    Bring back CM in addition to current Mythic+ basically. Remember CM's didn't award gear other than cosmetic rewards.
    Mythic invitational is basically a CM anyways with the gear ilvl's normalized for everyone. Why can't we have that in game?

  • @coleswims8043
    @coleswims8043 7 років тому

    I quit retail to play vanilla and tbc, however wow has always been amazing with pve content and it isn't a huge shock pve tournaments are awesome. I even watched!

  • @MelkromisteinWeeb
    @MelkromisteinWeeb 7 років тому

    Anything against Beer and Sausage?

  • @madtrade
    @madtrade 7 років тому

    this is the first wow stream that actually kept me engage
    i used to do arena for a loooong time and even a 'pvp dude' like myself had fucking problem to understand wtf is happening
    i really fucking love it
    and as a tank i learned a TONS of shit ( because i play tank i hardly see other tank :-)
    i bloody love it

  • @Dlihc
    @Dlihc 7 років тому

    They should have added a fourth affix for the mythic+ I dont want to watch people run around in content current gear. I want to see them perform above and beyond what i expect myself to do

  • @dextriseffect9431
    @dextriseffect9431 7 років тому

    I like your ideas they really would make me watch the invitational if I was actually able to learn something from them with povs and ability cds and what not. having pvp and pve competitions setup like how the NFL does their sports would make it 10000000% more interesting and engaging. I don't know if they are trying to be different from that or if they just don't have the recources to do so but it would help a lot.

  • @draylexdoom9243
    @draylexdoom9243 7 років тому

    Theyve had an ad for invitationals on the launcher for awhile,must have recentley taken it down

  • @strzaskanyalf2928
    @strzaskanyalf2928 7 років тому

    Do a video about the finals! I loved the bugs that influenced the outcome, not saying that FM did not deserve the win. The "cant release" bug has been in this game for quite some time, only way to get around it is to do a relog. Also it has shown how unprepaired Blizztwats have been, they should have procedures in place for a fuckton of possible things that could fuck up, they had none.

  • @kumasu321
    @kumasu321 7 років тому

    Warriors having insane OP output damage is the trade-off of for not having an immunity.

  • @tylerboblett9470
    @tylerboblett9470 7 років тому +1

    Ayeee it's my boy

  • @borga6566
    @borga6566 7 років тому

    I noticed this also with the twitch promotions for the HGC tournament for HotS... It was very poorly advertised. Not nearly as many people were involved once they stopped advertising for even just a few days. Blizzard needs to make streams more known on the app.

  • @rosslogan4019
    @rosslogan4019 7 років тому

    Jim a bm hunter and im sure loads of others feel the same that there pet often bugs out and gets stuck causing u to not be able to cast your main stills such as kill command. Wastes so mucj time dismissing and summoning again

  • @JoyKeaton
    @JoyKeaton 7 років тому +14

    I hope you aren't dissing the Brewfest sausage hat 😉

    • @thepsychomagus
      @thepsychomagus 7 років тому

      I hope not too because some of the npcs in Skyhold are wearing them.

  • @utyr1830
    @utyr1830 7 років тому

    Congratz on the fox mount asmonbald

  • @golvellius6855
    @golvellius6855 7 років тому

    either bugs or content
    make your mind.

  • @Meusberg
    @Meusberg 7 років тому

    Lol at the 4 button Arms spec

  • @jaredarseneault9414
    @jaredarseneault9414 7 років тому

    That is a damn good point! Has Blizz ever contacted you about anything? Even to say something like, "Fuck yeah man, you're right. Maybe we'll look at that!"

  • @rickhogan3975
    @rickhogan3975 7 років тому

    The M+I was advertised in the launcher... when it was going on....

  • @Kyderra
    @Kyderra 7 років тому +1

    One think I'd like to add onto of the Battleress issue are the racial ability of Blood Elfs causing almost every team being only made of Blood Elfs.

  • @vstylex
    @vstylex 7 років тому

    You nailed it. Team death match (aka arenas) aren't that compelling to watch. Make smaller BG maps and set up 6x6 BB tourneys for more objective based PVP and more casual viewers will tune in

  • @MrStreager
    @MrStreager 7 років тому

    I honestly didn't even know this was a thing.

  • @criticalmass3993
    @criticalmass3993 7 років тому

    Yeah they really need to do better PR if they continue this, i had absolutely no idea it was already going on. Also kinda surprised pvp in wow is so dead nowadays.

  • @RedRagedRooster
    @RedRagedRooster 7 років тому +23

    I couldnt figure out if this was a troll vid or a serious one. Eitherway, i like it.
    M+ is the best feature added since Battlegrounds in vanilla or HCs in TBC.

    • @Alex-pb7rq
      @Alex-pb7rq 7 років тому +5

      john m you must be trash.

    • @aals2974
      @aals2974 7 років тому

      Because repeating the same dungeons every week for more than a year is fun right?

  • @lipHs1
    @lipHs1 7 років тому +1

    Blizzard should also limit class stack, watching double warriors/rogues every map isn't that good.

  • @RaiWS
    @RaiWS 7 років тому

    The Russian stream from Exorsus for m+ was awesome with all the insights

  • @danbill9165
    @danbill9165 7 років тому

    Really strong video , e-sports continues to prove a completely hot and growing area. Could shape future game content

  • @adox8574
    @adox8574 7 років тому

    I think the PvP event numbers VS the PVE numbers is more of a sign on just how much blizzard has ignored and alienated PVP players. I am suprised they even get half of what the PVE events get. I am willing to be PVP events could get even more if blizzard actually gave some attention to PVP

  • @styxzero1675
    @styxzero1675 7 років тому

    how do you make so much gold, asmon?

  • @valebonfi4482
    @valebonfi4482 7 років тому

    I want to see CDs and Trinkets too.

    • @valebonfi4482
      @valebonfi4482 7 років тому

      Leggos too would really help to undestand some of the pulls.

  • @dyllanmiller4267
    @dyllanmiller4267 7 років тому

    I hope they take half your advice, would make it much more of a spectator event. Fantasy Mythic leagues coming soon if they did...

  • @kevinrex7414
    @kevinrex7414 7 років тому

    The legion invasions are buggy as fuck. Mages will still dc when blinking from an elevator.

  • @shrill_2165
    @shrill_2165 7 років тому

    Watched the whole thing and didn't even get to see what loot you got :(

  • @MyKoolaidz
    @MyKoolaidz 7 років тому

    After seeing a lot of sub rouges running cheese builds, and some BM hunters in the invitational.... and Blood dks. I was really let down with the talent. I was looking to see individual decision making and everyone bringing something respectable to the invitational.

  • @Pyromancer
    @Pyromancer 7 років тому +103

    Kek

    • @August-ok9rt
      @August-ok9rt 7 років тому +1

      Love your vidoes Pyropaul, dab om em mages. The lore videoes are awesome keep them up.

    • @sirhenry0
      @sirhenry0 7 років тому

      dab on dem hater ma nibba trihard bruh