Can Japan's New '4 Day Work Week' Save Them From Extinction?

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  • @Fads
    @Fads  13 днів тому +41

    Thanks for watching!! As always, this is edited from one of my streams here on YT (7.30pm Eastern, picking back up next week on Fri).
    Just some extra context:
    - The policy is for Tokyo govt staff (160k people tho, so it’s a decent chunk of Tokyo’s workforce). A few other prefectures and regions have announced similar plans too.
    - Japan’s 2018 work reforms also ‘encouraged’ the private sector to adopt more flexible working solutions lmao. I bet you can imagine how that’s going.
    - The 69hr workweek is probably like #47 on the list of wild stuff the SK president has said/done lol.
    - Also apologies for shoddy pronunciation of Japanese words

    • @C05597641
      @C05597641 13 днів тому

      Buddy this channel is all about how things arnt right and discussion about how things could improve but its going to get worse. China is kicking our ass. They have lower living standards and work longer hours. Lower living standards and longer hours are whats coming. "living standards must fall" is starting to appear in media. There might be a bright future for your channel. The problems will get worse.

    • @coldflames1D1A5
      @coldflames1D1A5 13 днів тому

      Good to have you back!

    • @LePookieBear00
      @LePookieBear00 13 днів тому +2

      exactly it isn’t the days that kill but the hours and environment japanese work in that is the true problem

    • @keith_5584
      @keith_5584 12 днів тому +1

      2:07 I bet those employees that even mentioned this, not even took the chance either faced backlash or felt like they would receive backlash.
      You cant wait till people are so burned out they dont care to offer them that choice.
      In the best situation, offering or forcing the 4 day work week now, means the generation you are onboarding will be saved from burn out. Maybe a small amount of the last generation who havent already had their relationships (friends, family, partner) compromised.

    • @ljeans531
      @ljeans531 10 днів тому

      It's not gonna work
      Japan has extreme social gender inequality that they refuse to remedy.
      If they accepted more immigration, and stopped being so xenophobic, those 2 things are the real answer to their problems.
      Women will not have children in the modern age if they don't want to or if they feel like they can't.
      Empires have relied on the poor to procreate for centuries and now the contraceptives are available, people are more conscious and have options.

  • @TheNewRobotMaster
    @TheNewRobotMaster 13 днів тому +358

    I live in Japan. I also operated a company for 8 years. I thought I'd add a bit of context.
    1) Except for the most egregious offences like murder and assault, laws in Japan are more like suggestions rather than things you shant do. Even if you don't follow them, you're unlikely to suffer any actual consequences. The most you'll get is a ticket. This applies to labour laws as well. I ran into this a lot with my business partner, as he would try to block me from implementing employee policies that followed the law. He would say "oh no no, nobody cares about that nothing is going to happen" and attempt to bleed our employees dry.
    2) Why would my business partner do that? Because in his mind, those who don't give 100% by working the hardest, constantly, every day, will be cut from the company before anybody else. Japan's office jobs and other skilled positions are extremely competitive. Employees know this. They also know they just have to stick it out long enough because promotion is usually done by seniority. Therefore, in an effort to maintain their jobs, they will actively work endlessly. Nobody _wants_ to work like this, but they do not because of social pressure or shame, but because they fear they will lose their livelihoods.
    3) One of the only laws that's actually actively enforced is that companies can't fire "salaried employees", contingent on the fact that the employee does everything they're told to do, even if they make mistakes. Even then, companies are obligated to provide extra chances and training over a long period to remedy the mistakes. To get around this, there have been two main strategies: 1) no longer hire employees, but make all people who work for the company "contractors", who have severely fewer protections (also companies don't have to match pension and health insurance payments for contractors) and 2) make the lives of those employees so terrible that they quit of their own volition.
    4) There has been a noticable drop in passed out office workers in public. I can't even remember the last time I saw one. There's also been successful movements to get less rigid working conditions. For example, just last year all major supermarkets implemented policies that allowed people to have coloured hair, wear makeup and earrings, or have facial hair (surprising as it might be most major companies required all men to be clean shaven every single day). There has also been improvements to working conditions in general, "customer harassment" also became a topic of discussion with policies now in place to prevent irate customers from venting their frustrations on workeks, typically low level staff who work the registers. But these policies come less as a response to an increasing difficulty in finding employees for low level jobs.
    5) I think it's important to realize that when people do have children, they tend to have at least 2. I personally know many families with 3, 4 and even 5 children in Tokyo. The problem is that fewer people are choosing to have any families at all.
    Things are changing and I do think improving overall. The concept of the "salaryman" worked great in the past but is no longer possible. For people starting to pay national pension today, they're going to get only 70000 yen per month on retirement, while the retirees who had company pension get 300000 yen today. I think a shrinking of the Japanese population will actually help out in the long run. Yes, absolutely everyone will be poorer but I think people will be happier. What's the point of life when all you do is work?

    • @A-se2ur
      @A-se2ur 13 днів тому +15

      Excellent comment!

    • @soundofkrisz7769
      @soundofkrisz7769 13 днів тому +26

      Thanks for the insights!
      Its a problem here too. Husband often cannot support family alone so wife also works and then they both cant spend time with their family so why have it in the first place when the state will raise your kids? A full time job inevitably becomes your life instead of your family because it just takes too much time and energy away from your family.
      Also despite children ensuring the future of the state, it is not rewarded enough by the state. Single people get to live way easier lives and they also benefit from the pension that the children of other people pay into the system. So again that does not honor the sacrifice of those who spent lots of time, energy and money to raising children.

    • @Fads
      @Fads  13 днів тому +32

      this is faboulous insight, thank you so much!

    • @C05597641
      @C05597641 13 днів тому +13

      @@TheNewRobotMaster so it sounds like Japan is like the west then. Nothing you said sounds that different.

    • @Patternlogic
      @Patternlogic 13 днів тому +2

      Amazing insight, thank you!

  • @ChiekoGamers
    @ChiekoGamers 13 днів тому +630

    It works, but it's a band aid solution. We should be working less than 32-hours per week. We should fix our work culture. These huge corporations are boasting record profits yet our wages remain the same.

    • @meru_lpz
      @meru_lpz 13 днів тому +13

      Idk about your country, but in my country (spain) our companies spend in a wage double what the worker receives. In other word, the state takes half the wage before it even reaches the worker. Is the wages remaining the same solely the fault of corporations?
      In my experience, taxes and regulations are the biggest culprit. And these state-imposed costs always get passed on to the worker and the consumer.

    • @maksimfedoryak
      @maksimfedoryak 13 днів тому +71

      ​@@meru_lpzbelieve, if government will decrease taxes, corporations will not increase wages on next month

    • @meru_lpz
      @meru_lpz 13 днів тому +6

      @ I agree. What im saying is, if taxes like IRPF decreased here, companies could keep paying the exact same (gross pay) and we could have higher wages (net pay).

    • @8qk67acq5
      @8qk67acq5 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@meru_lpz The corporation won't increase your pay at all. They will pocket it.
      Regulation isn't the problem, it's what type of regulation.

    • @emiel_nl
      @emiel_nl 13 днів тому +23

      @@meru_lpz they could but they wont, they will just book it as extra profit

  • @yohann2768
    @yohann2768 13 днів тому +259

    32h work week should be the norm in developed countries.

    • @sprinkle61
      @sprinkle61 13 днів тому +9

      I don't have enough income or hours. Solution - less income and less hours... What ?

    • @SenatorFreddyQuimby
      @SenatorFreddyQuimby 13 днів тому +62

      But the CEO wants that lake house. Wont somebody think of the CEO's

    • @Szczurzyslawa
      @Szczurzyslawa 13 днів тому +37

      @@sprinkle61 The idea is for the income to stay the same for less hours worked

    • @aar0n709
      @aar0n709 13 днів тому

      @@Szczurzyslawa😂🤣 yeah sure

    • @thevindictive6145
      @thevindictive6145 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@sprinkle61Probably talking about fixed income not based on hours.

  • @Bkaz3678
    @Bkaz3678 13 днів тому +266

    Maybe low wages also factor into why people feel the need to work so much?

    • @ZERARCHIVE2023
      @ZERARCHIVE2023 13 днів тому +10

      What future for sla...i mean kid heh ?

    • @jokerpilled2535
      @jokerpilled2535 11 днів тому +5

      Lower prices or increase wages. Or do both

    • @Marshi1
      @Marshi1 11 днів тому +1

      And cost of living rising too

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 11 днів тому +5

      Low wages and poverty was never an issue in the past for fertility. It's an issue with culture and mindset.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому

      @@ed61730 To have relationship, you need time, something person working 12h per day don't have (sorry, not working, he is in job, but how good job he can do be exhausted is other story)

  • @cartr4236
    @cartr4236 12 днів тому +43

    it legit should be a 3 day work week around the world, our lives are complete messes.

  • @Winterascent
    @Winterascent 11 днів тому +51

    Toxic culture is failing. Got it. Makes sense.

    • @socialistcynic
      @socialistcynic 11 днів тому +3

      Yep. Countries with the most peverse work culture are going to end the most broken and unproductive.

    • @dw-yl3ln
      @dw-yl3ln 11 днів тому +3

      Really is that blindingly simple.

  • @monkeibusiness
    @monkeibusiness 13 днів тому +166

    Humans were not made to work that much.

    • @Szkieletor1234
      @Szkieletor1234 13 днів тому +2

      Real they were made to work only 24 h in a day

    • @billrobert3226
      @billrobert3226 12 днів тому +18

      Off grid homesteaders don't even work that much

    • @alphastratus6623
      @alphastratus6623 11 днів тому +10

      I get your point but I would be more specific: humans worked and work a lot for stuff they see a meaning and a benefit. But this alienated time spending that barely pay for an apartment, that need to stop.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому +4

      @@alphastratus6623 you don't get it, 40h work week was introduced not because governments want people to work less, it was because research show that working more don't make them to do more work. As muscles as brain, they need rest to be in top performance.

    • @alphastratus6623
      @alphastratus6623 11 днів тому +2

      @m_sedziwoj That's not my point. I talk about people doing a lot of tasks for way more than 8h a day, and payed work is only a minor part of that.

  • @alimfuzzy
    @alimfuzzy 13 днів тому +170

    I would think samsung employees didn't take up the 4-day work week is that it would make them the most likely to be fired at the next job cuts.
    It's not loyalty, it's fear.

    • @fallenshallrise
      @fallenshallrise 10 днів тому +4

      Agreed. In most places bosses don't really know what people do day-to-day and working "more", just being around more is what gets people promoted. In practice when some people work 4 days and some work 5 the 4 day a week people will NEVER be promoted. In my company I've seen people who don't take their vacation time and call into meetings when they are sick get promoted because they seem dedicated. I've seen other people who literally walk around the office with with a coffee cup and a notebook all day get promoted not because they do anything but because they are there early and there late and always "looking busy".

  • @mishmashmarsh9499
    @mishmashmarsh9499 11 днів тому +27

    The wages can't go down with the extra day off.
    People will not sacrifice their quality of life because the government wants you to have another child.
    A populations needs have to be met, either wages need to go up, expenses need to go down, or both.
    The rich don't spend their money, but people living pay check to pay check will always spend the extra money.
    Most economic activity is consumer spending, workers make the wheels of any country turn.
    The second people forget that, or are convinced otherwise, the economy starts to flounder.
    We need to start treating the working population like the bedrock they are, or the wheels of economic growth won't start turning.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому +1

      Raise wages or lower expenses, those are really the only 2 choices. A child is way more expensive than a day of work a week.
      It's barely even basic economy. It's middle school arithmetic. It isn't economically worth having a kid. The government needs to fix that if they want more kids.

  • @FramerTerminater
    @FramerTerminater 12 днів тому +57

    I lived in Japan for half a year. I can confirm that one of the major reasons I ultimately decided not to stay in Japan was due to how incredibly silly the lengths people will go to in order to create the image that they are working really hard. They have created tons of bureaucracy around even little things such that each person in office jobs have loads of paperwork to do, most of which is stuff that could be entirely digitally automated or is completely unnecessary altogether. As their labor populations decrease, rather than ask themselves "is all of this extra meaningless work necessary", they instead go "OH NO, WE NEED TO HIRE MORE PPL SOMEHOW TO DO THIS MEANIGNLESS WORK!" However even that they often fail at because of rigid beliefs when it comes to accepting migrant workers outside of only a few narrow types of jobs. They are at least making strives in trying to automate medicine by developing devices that track the elderly's vitals such that they reduce the load on medical professionals, but it is only going to get worse...

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому +4

      I think what they must change is not law, but culture. But it easy to say as to say people from USA to give up on guns ;)

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 13 днів тому +73

    It sounds like Japan can change the law all they want, but changing the culture will take time.

    • @luisa146
      @luisa146 12 днів тому +10

      It doesn't seem a culture problem to me, it seems a lack of labor unions and enforcement of labor laws. Corporations are free to exploit people as they please and workers have no choice but to comply.

    • @duduvec5971
      @duduvec5971 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@luisa146it's not. Here in brazil we have that and every time they do this we get less and less people getting those jobs because it's way too much commitment from the company. So we go more and more to informal jobs

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому +1

      @@luisa146 lol do you read yourself? Do you know why unions don't enforce labor law? Because culture...

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому +6

      Culture never changes overnight. Laws need to be made with the idea of seeing effects in 3, 5, 10 years in advance.
      That or they need to really buckle down and enforce laws. Laws without enforcement are just polite suggestions. I don't know why laws are rarely enforced

    • @luisa146
      @luisa146 10 днів тому +3

      @m_sedziwoj My man, it's not unions who enforce labor laws.. that would be paradise... it's the government who has to enforce the laws it makes. If the government makes laws but lets corporations decide if they feel like respecting them or not, what's the point? What labor unions can do is demand of the government to enforce the existing law and to implement more laws who benefit workers. I don't deny that this problem is influenced by social and cultural norms, in way that are unique to Japan, but those are not the reason, these awful working conditions happen (with different flavors) everywhere there isn't strong workers representation and where governments let corporations do what they want (exploit workers more = more profit).

  • @spotlessmind9263
    @spotlessmind9263 12 днів тому +24

    I thought burn-out was only individual but Japan is undergoing country-sized burnout

  • @Prodigy70
    @Prodigy70 11 днів тому +19

    Glad to see many more people discussing pay, work hours and the cost of living in many parts of the world. Corporate greed is going so far that the 99% are all feeling it more.

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 11 днів тому +4

      In fact they aren t.
      The japanese law just allows you to work 4 days, but paid 4...
      So it doesn t change the pay. You get one free day, but less money, housing is still unaffordable, grocerie pricier etc..
      And at worst, your boss will look at it with a negative eye, prefering someone working 5days...

  • @FactsCountdown
    @FactsCountdown 13 днів тому +52

    Farmers are trying to increase breeding of their livestock.

  • @wxpuuu
    @wxpuuu 12 днів тому +21

    The article about some of Japan's elderly population shopplifting to seek care in prisons was excellent to bring up. great video another banger

    • @wxpuuu
      @wxpuuu 12 днів тому +1

      finishing up the video now 69 HOUR WORK WEEK FROM SOUTH KOREA HUHHHHHH

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому

      ​@@wxpuuuI guess North Korea is gonna take over sooner than expected.

  • @eligore6908
    @eligore6908 13 днів тому +18

    I doubt it will change anything. They have something called Furikyuu 振り休 which means that of you work outside work hours, then you can substitute that time to rest on regular hours.
    But what happens is that workers will work overtime, stockpile more furikyuu then they could ever use in a year. What Japan friends can be made outside of work. Work romance is romanticized because people can't be bothered to find communities outside their work and home routine.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому

      The last part sounds like America. Removing or weakening 3rd places and are surprised when people talk less outside of the internet. Where we supposed to talk without paying $10 for a beer or $20 for a meal? Especially teens?

  • @_vofy
    @_vofy 12 днів тому +18

    When was the last time living standards improved anywhere for the common man?

    • @tru7hhimself
      @tru7hhimself 8 днів тому +1

      real wages in china have quadrupled in the last 30 years.

    • @cjthebeesknees
      @cjthebeesknees День тому

      1917, Russia.
      😉

  • @Sub0Kate
    @Sub0Kate 13 днів тому +28

    I'd like to see a chart of percapita hours worked and birth rates for countries. It would have to include side hustles too, since that wouldn't show up in a "work week".

    • @calebjohnson7685
      @calebjohnson7685 11 днів тому +1

      Country,Average Annual Working Hours¹,Total Fertility Rate²
      Colombia,2,400,1.8
      Mexico,2,128,2.1
      Costa Rica,2,073,1.7
      South Korea,1,915,0.72
      United States,1,791,1.6
      Japan,1,598,1.3
      Germany,1,349,1.5

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 11 днів тому +1

      It s more a wealth gap thing than a pure work hour/week.
      The Gini index is a better indicator to compare with fertility rates.

  • @AncelDeLambert
    @AncelDeLambert 13 днів тому +40

    I've come across SO much manga that has "Black Companies" (abusive, corrupt, illegal) as a keystone to the story that it's kinda shocking that it seems like the population at large just isn't overly concerned by the ongoing underlying issues that allow those companies to operate. Change is slow, for certain, but it still seems glacial

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому

      Gen Z is actually slowly rebelling. But old ways die hard. Japanese boomers have the exact same "gen Z is lazy" mentality as America does. Maybe even worse given their culture of "live to work".

    • @riowhi7
      @riowhi7 7 днів тому +1

      Wow maybe manga shouldn't be your primary source of what real life within Japan is like

  • @Cynidecia
    @Cynidecia 8 днів тому +2

    When Japan has worked itself into the ground, for whoever is left behind from the decline, nothing will get done.

  • @nyanko8972
    @nyanko8972 12 днів тому +41

    Unfortunately a lot of these “4day work weeks” here in Japan aren’t what they seem. When companies say 4 day work week they mean, you can take a pay cut and work one less day, or you can work 4days with 10 hour work days instead of the usual 8 hour work day.

    • @duduvec5971
      @duduvec5971 11 днів тому

      Of course it is. You produce less and you earn less. That's not unfortunate, that's common sense.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому

      @@duduvec5971 it is not, how long you work have nothing in it how much money you making for company, how much good work you finish have more with it, and it must not be BS work not giving any benefits for company, only to do something. This is why most countries have 40h work week, not because is good for workers, but because research show, that working more is not productive at all, only wasting time in job. But how people for Japan can understand that sometimes less is more... because what is important and missed in Japan work culture is to to appreciate people with better skills and not how long he working, how long he is in company, or what background he have. If Elon Musk go to Japan not USA, he would be nothing, and don't build 2 big companies (if you like him or not, have nothing to do what SpaceX take over space industry, and Tesla in 2024 is bigger than Audi)

    • @matthewarnold4557
      @matthewarnold4557 10 днів тому

      ​@@duduvec5971but 4-day work weeks have been proven to be more productive for workers and companies.

    • @moonknight2865
      @moonknight2865 10 днів тому +1

      @@duduvec5971” you produce less, you earn less” good lord, you sound like a bootlicker.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому +5

      ​@@duduvec5971that's not how the 20 countries with 4 day work weeks were conducting experiments.
      Also, not how salaried employees work. You pay them whether work 20 or 80 hours a week.

  • @JeffBilkins
    @JeffBilkins 13 днів тому +27

    What is it like for young parents in Japan? Do they still work? And is childcare, housing and having kids even affordable?

    • @burtburtist
      @burtburtist 13 днів тому +13

      tons of interview videos out here but from recent memory, its nowhere near worth it by the sound of it.

    • @nyanko8972
      @nyanko8972 12 днів тому +11

      For most people? No not really.
      Like, it’s not the worst. Many companies provide maternity/paternity leave. And some will also provide child support money. But it’s not enough. And is the child support really worth it if you can’t see your because you’re working all the time?

  • @theforkedman3030
    @theforkedman3030 13 днів тому +24

    To have children you need money and time. Then you have to put 68hrs of work in 48hrs that only increases stress. When you make less money you can afford baby medical bills, food, housing or clothing.

  • @BlitzkriegOmega
    @BlitzkriegOmega 12 днів тому +6

    Honestly, the four day work week is incompatible with Asian work culture. Nothing will change because they will be shamed by their bosses into continuing to 996.
    They tried to encourage Fridays off, and nobody took it because nobody wanted to burden the workplace With their absence.

  • @joels7605
    @joels7605 13 днів тому +31

    "People tend to have false memories." How true this is. Years gone by tend to turn into caricatures of themselves. I'm even noticing that in my own memories. The most noteworthy events and qualities are over-amplified, and the rest just fades into history.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому

      Those memories are also just in a different time. They not only probably worked less, but had way more buying power. That just isn't what's happening now.
      People confused with the struggling youth need to talk to and understand that youth. Hell, just look at a modern apartment/housing listing and realize rent isn't $300/month anymore. It really doesn't take that much work to empathize.

  • @TheRocketRat
    @TheRocketRat 13 днів тому +8

    Where I work, I’m part of a large, independent union that is very active and that supports and is supported by other unions in other industries. However, workers, especially in more white-collar jobs find unions in general useless, don’t care about them, or only join them to get help on their one issue, then promptly quick, treating them like a service instead of an actual union. Also, I’m surprised so many of those workers chose the 4-day work-week. There is quite a lot of passive-aggressive bullying that can happen, which prevents people from taking off when they’re sick or taking maternity/paternity leave, etc.

  • @SuperGameFan77
    @SuperGameFan77 12 днів тому +7

    4 day work weeks will not work in Japan unless it is legally mandated with severe penalties. The work culture will not allow it. There is so much social obligation to your company that it would be career and social unalive to "only" work 4 days.

  • @Royaleoake
    @Royaleoake 10 днів тому +4

    Everyone always says, “the cost is too high to have children.”
    Nobody ever seems to ask: what is the cost of NOT having children?

    • @takumu781
      @takumu781 7 днів тому +2

      having a child in japan will just result in A HUGE expense because of school fees, living etc
      maybe dont have private education in the first place lol

    • @Discotekh_Dynasty
      @Discotekh_Dynasty 6 днів тому +1

      If people don’t have the money they aren’t going to do it. If you want birth rates to rise you have to provide the material conditions that allow people to raise kids.
      Japan needs a bottom up reform of its work culture if it wants to survive

    • @greyblob1101
      @greyblob1101 6 днів тому

      @@takumu781 Maybe that makes a lot of sense in Japan, but I hear this from middle class people in the US too. I think a lot more people are aware of what being a parent actually entails and just opting out.

  • @nightsage217
    @nightsage217 12 днів тому +5

    It's alright. I think in the future, people will look back and say it's a crisis of social stress that almost take out the nation. If somehow it is truly an extinction event, I think it is the lamest one, and I think we deserve to be gone.

  • @smol_angr_void7224
    @smol_angr_void7224 12 днів тому +3

    I really like the topics you cover, they're relevant and insightful. Also, I like the sound of your voice, it's nice!

  • @shawngrinter2747
    @shawngrinter2747 9 днів тому +1

    I worked for three Japanese companies in the UK all of which the Japanese staff worked excessive hours and in every case they were just staggeringly inefficient achieving nothing the local staff didn’t do on their nine to five.

  • @boccobadz
    @boccobadz 11 днів тому +3

    Work is not a problem. The problem is your wage is too small and you can't save up for a house in a reasonable time even if you spend 0 - in most countries it would take over 10 years of not spending a single penny to be able to afford basic small place. And you need more space if you wanna have kids. Like in most cases, greedy boomers are the real root of the problem.

  • @vietimports
    @vietimports 12 днів тому +10

    this is coming to every country. literally every country. interestingly even developing countries, usually perceived as having very high birth rates, are experiencing slowdowns in their birth rates. something is happening globally

    • @mr.unknown11ભરવાડ11
      @mr.unknown11ભરવાડ11 12 днів тому +1

      What to expect when we have a childhood where we used to eat chemical driven vegetables, fast-foods and packaged foods.

    • @daviddobarganes9115
      @daviddobarganes9115 11 днів тому

      Humanity is being crushed into paste

    • @Royaleoake
      @Royaleoake 10 днів тому +3

      The human population has gone up and down throughout the millennia. Perhaps all of this is more ‘natural’ than we think it is.

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise 10 днів тому +1

    Most of these 4 day work week experiments are designed to fail either requiring 40 hours to be compressed into 4 days or by offering to have employees keep the same workload for a 20% pay cut. During the pandemic companies offered the option to move to a 4 day work week at a 20% pay cut or stay at 5 day work week for a 10% pay cut and the majority of people still stayed at 5 days.
    The issue of being on 4 days with the same workload when everyone else in the office is on 5 days is that no one respects your time. The 32 hour person has to get things done quickly and efficiently while the 40 hour people want to chat about the weekend and hold useless check-in meetings and generally waste time. Meetings will be held on your day off and you'll just be expected to work overtime in a way that a 5 day a week worker never is.
    This is why people won't do it. They see through the tactics and when they realize that they are just going to have to produce just a much for the company for less money the cut in pay isn't worth it. Better to stay on 40 hours and go to the coffee machine 4 times a day and stand around chatting with coworkers and ask the boss about their vacation and play on your phone in the bathroom and stall your way through the work week.

  • @leponpon6935
    @leponpon6935 13 днів тому +24

    Actually, instead of 4 day work week, a 3 day work week would've been much better...although...at this point... it's too little too late...

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому +2

      Not too late. We just need baby steps. When eventually people adopt 4 days, we can move to 3 days.

  • @zachurich5046
    @zachurich5046 13 днів тому +5

    First to leave is first to get fired, real productivity be damned!

  • @alimfuzzy
    @alimfuzzy 13 днів тому +25

    I think what you'll find is why this was originally proposed during covid. To increase spending.
    It's what happened when we moved to a 5 day work week. Huge boost to the economy.

  • @bmona7550
    @bmona7550 12 днів тому +3

    Thankfully I only work 3 days (albeit nights only) because I'm a nurse. But every shift is 12 hours straight..so basically its like 4-5 days in those 3 shifts. The 4 days off I have I'm most likely sleeping. Certain jobs already give you 3-4 days a week and it depends on the country as well. Despite the 4 day work week advantage I think the European work culture is better to follow because of law mandated 3-4 or more weeks PTO/vacation EVERY year? Yes, every year!! Companies can't decline PTO because the required PTO is actually planned the moment you are hired or its at certain months. That's something to dream of and truly work for even in the US. Heck I'd be willing to work overtime just for that. Not sure if Japan can afford to do that but I know the US for a long time should have done that decades ago. In some countries there if a woman gives birth they can take 1-3 years off and they are paid the whole time at a certain percent depending on how long they are not working due to child care. Paid paternity leave is reasonably long as well (though probably not as long as the woman who gave birth).

  • @aaronogden9900
    @aaronogden9900 13 днів тому +7

    It sounds like my idea of hell. I work 4 days a week/32hrs but I’d gladly do less. Work is boring and sucks, you only live once so you shouldn’t want to spend it all dying in slow motion doing crap to make someone else rich.

  • @GooseCee
    @GooseCee 13 днів тому +16

    It’s so funny how Fads is covering intellectual topics but then uses Gen Z phrases like “they don’t wanna smash” 💀god I love this channel 😂

  • @belava82
    @belava82 9 днів тому +2

    Poland fertility rate is the same as in Japan, yet our culture is very different.
    Nothing works for fertility because people chose not to have kids at firstplace.

  • @MaydaTiger
    @MaydaTiger 13 днів тому +2

    fads my boi
    thanks again for yet another enlightening and wonderful vid

  • @smajliiicka
    @smajliiicka 13 днів тому +8

    South Korea govt suggested what?!? 🧐🥺

  • @funkymunky
    @funkymunky 13 днів тому +4

    Blowing bubbles into a hurricane...☹️

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment 13 днів тому +8

    we need this everywhere

  • @SenEmChannel
    @SenEmChannel 11 днів тому +1

    As long as profit is the highest value, there are no hope.

  • @drantino
    @drantino 12 днів тому +1

    from my personal observations, the work culture and how they got to keep up apperences has such a massive clash with the ability for the majority of these people to even actually have a life outside of work. then theres the other side of people who are feedup with it and become hikikomori, they have common sentement of not wanting to change the situation even if it can be proven better for everyone because it will cause issues for others, so they sign them self into fading away out of the system entierly because they cant fit the current system.

  • @slothc
    @slothc 13 днів тому +4

    Croatia had a similar population drop due to finally having a census after more than a decade 😅

  • @Arewmon
    @Arewmon 12 днів тому +2

    Yeah, anything that's optional is not going to have an impact in a country like Japan.
    Like, people often voluntarily come in over the weekend anyway and I'm sure most companies would make all their employees come in every weekend if they could. That's just a little harder to do than making them work overtime until midnight every day since they're already in the office. If you forced a four day work week, that might actually have a change because even if the companies still tried to make employees come in every Friday, that barrier to extra work is just a little bit higher. Still, without any forced change, the brutal cultural norms are just gonna win over.

  • @InOrlando
    @InOrlando 11 днів тому +1

    Sounds like the boss needs to be forced to leave....

  • @neitherdoi5790
    @neitherdoi5790 12 днів тому +2

    "without taxes from younger workers" has always been nonsense, we are not in the gold standard. Monetary base can be limitless expanded (as you can see in any financial crisis).

    • @daviddobarganes9115
      @daviddobarganes9115 11 днів тому

      Yes but taxes>debt.
      Debt is to the wealthy and it just makes them more powerful.

  • @SkellyHertz
    @SkellyHertz 8 днів тому

    A problem is that, unless all companies around the world get on board with reduced work schedules that still provide sustainable salaries, other companies abroad that burn up and toss away employees for short term gain will outcompete local companies that pat livable wages and schedule sustainable work weeks. It already happened with manufacturing jobs, and call centers, and would happen for office jobs too.

  • @markchang2964
    @markchang2964 12 днів тому +3

    Time to visit before it becomes a ghost town.
    😂😅😥😭

  • @burtburtist
    @burtburtist 13 днів тому +2

    the work days might not matter that much, the income, protections, enforcement, and stress matter more. or they will simply decide to cram 5 days worth of work in 4.
    i would like to imagine that if they were payed enough to support another person or two they may be encouraged to have stay at home wives/husbands, this gives people the opportunity to build families, it feels frustrating that bandaid solutions are the only ones proposed when they ask their own people why they wont start families and get direct responses.

  • @tooleyn
    @tooleyn 10 днів тому

    The work week really does make a difference. I work for a company where it’s 12 hour shifts but it alternates. Work 3 shifts for 12 hours one week, and then the next week it’s 4 shifts of 12 hours. My last job before this one was mandatory overtime every week. Monday through Friday. I love my current schedule. Yeah it sucks working 12 hour days but getting the guaranteed 3 days off a week, and then after the long week you have 4 days off. It’s wonderful and I would never want to go back to typical Monday through Friday and mandatory overtime. It kills any time to keep relationships with people you’re close with and hard to get everything done at the household

  • @eugene4786
    @eugene4786 11 днів тому +1

    I bet, nothing will change.

  • @joseponte5802
    @joseponte5802 13 днів тому +6

    6:55 the problem is, they still have the mentality of that time. They even have a mostly paper based company culture, so when automation took over they didn't adapt, and now are competing with a hand tied back, and the exec think it is just a case of "work more hours"

  • @krissydiggs
    @krissydiggs 10 днів тому

    I feel like no one is looking at the most important problem with the birth rate. It's Tokyo. Living in tokyo is too expensive. It's the same in Korea and likely in every big city. But because most people live in Tokyo... the problem is very dire.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 10 днів тому +1

    This might be one of the things we can all agree AI is good for. If we can automate part of most jobs (wich we can), then we can keep the same productivity with less work hours, or even have wayyy less work hours by sacrificing some productivity aswell.

  • @Zoopop13
    @Zoopop13 13 днів тому +5

    no, i dont think it will. honestly, making it a “norm” to have kids when theres so many in the foster system, my generation has shifted views. plus the toll it does on the body and how many complications, its dangerous! nah i think adoption or nothin for me.

  • @gregorybreen7705
    @gregorybreen7705 9 днів тому

    I was never paid for my 20-30 hrs of overtime per week. But the company did take measures to make sure that I would go to jail for defamation for saying where I worked.... progress?

  • @57ashdot
    @57ashdot 11 днів тому +1

    People aren't having kids because there is a global cost of living crisis happening right now

    • @takumu781
      @takumu781 7 днів тому +1

      on top of that there are school fees in japan

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 12 днів тому +2

    Please read about unit 731

  • @Borb-t4x
    @Borb-t4x 10 днів тому

    "boringly consistent" is quite high praise from an academic

  • @Aoki84
    @Aoki84 13 днів тому +1

    I think they need to tackle this from multiple angles like what about the fact that so many japanese ppl fled the country?

  • @imranahmad-uh9fi
    @imranahmad-uh9fi 12 днів тому

    I really appreciate your videos btw. Much love and take care :D

  • @duduvec5971
    @duduvec5971 11 днів тому

    I feel like this is an issue in all countries.
    If the wife goes to work and gets pregnant then she wont be working anymore and somebody gotta pay that cost either through taxes or the family has to "pay" by not earning the money which both are really bad situations. Not mentioning the time that she loses by not ascending on her company

  • @donschiffer7400
    @donschiffer7400 9 днів тому

    We should all be working a 4 day work week. Within a few years (depending on the impact of ai) that should go down to 3 or even 2.
    Otherwise we will continue to see our standard of living go down as labor becomes cheaper or less necessary.

  • @curbthepain
    @curbthepain 12 днів тому +1

    Its almost like common sense should just be common sense.

  • @m_sedziwoj
    @m_sedziwoj 11 днів тому +1

    I don't think young people change anything, where is this experiment with monkey in cage, ladder and banana at top, when monkey try climb ladder all monkey get shower by water, so they pull one climbing down, and even when they change all monkeys with time, so none of them get this shower, they still pull down which is try to one climbing ladder. I know it wasn't exactly real experiment, but I think it would still happen in Japan. Simply because is not about law, is about culture, but they would not acknowledge that they culture is bad, it would as people from USA say that too much freedom is bad (which is true, but...).
    And that they not focus on performance, but "saving face" (some translate it as honor, but it is wrong translation) they would not grow, simply because they grow in past, because they go from nothing to something, after war, so simply working was enough.Not giving opportunity people with most brilliant minds make they stagnate, and as they not working unions show, this people would not even fight for they place, and some which would, will immigrate, because they would understand that is no way they change culture.

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft 11 днів тому

    Intensify it. Do the weekend work, do the excessive hours. Intensify the economic activity. Then watch the house of cards fall.
    Work until everyone either burns out or self-deletes. A great conflagration. Entire civilisations crumbling, with the rich flailing around in the detritus, desperately seeking another dollar.
    No children. No families. No love. Nothing. Just maximised shareholder value.
    They get what they want. And the result is still a world covered in ash.

  • @viktornesovski1884
    @viktornesovski1884 11 днів тому

    Save wage in a 4 week trial, plus a mandatory, government regulated raise for everyone to match inflation year by year. If you paid for that position 4000$/month, it has to be increased this year

  • @wl6020
    @wl6020 10 днів тому

    Big issue is jobs are in the big cities, so the ypung move there. Plus its so expensive , many live in tiny places, or have to commute very far. Working 4 days a week will help, but the lack of time is huge.paying for childcare is expensive

  • @CC3GROUNDZERO
    @CC3GROUNDZERO 12 днів тому +4

    I mean, they did a study asking Hikkikomori why they are Hikkikomori. And the answer was that they want meaning in their lives. Capitalism cannot ever provide any meaning to anything, and so a four-day work week will not change anything imho.

  • @lexmortis5722
    @lexmortis5722 12 днів тому +1

    damn, imagine not focusing on economic and public stability and instead driving the economy into an early grave
    couldnt be us, of course

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 10 днів тому

      Anything for the shareholders

  • @returningwhisper
    @returningwhisper 10 днів тому

    If you are aware that your environment is unhappy and unfulfilling, why would you want to bring a child into it? People are having to deal with this ethical question.

  • @TheNanoNinja
    @TheNanoNinja 11 днів тому

    I'm all for working fewer hours as long as my salary allows me to sufficiently enjoy my time off.

  • @kiwifruitkl
    @kiwifruitkl 11 днів тому

    Just last year, Japan had a total number of 687080 births. Let's just forget about birth rate for a moment and just take a look at the total number of births. The total number of births (687080) is still a very high number.
    Will it replace the earlier generations? Hell no!
    Should it replace the earlier generations? No way!
    Instead of finding a way to replace the earlier generations, let's try to give the youngest generation the best possible life they can ever have.
    A well-off couple may have 1-2 children, and then the siblings and cousins may help support the kids financially/monetarily OR contribute to the household duties. That will be like having a double set or triple set or quadruple set of parents for some kids! Then, the older generation will get older and become euthanized so that they do not cause a burden on the younger relatives. The older generation's assets will be passed onto the kids, of course, instead of being used for elderly healthcare.

  • @daijaareona
    @daijaareona 12 днів тому +1

    How about hours decrease and pay increases to keep up with the economy

  • @Phoenixzs1012
    @Phoenixzs1012 13 днів тому +1

    Elderly wages should not be paid in money but in labour force. New workers wages should be paid also a bit in accomodation. A lot houses are being emptied but nobody is living in them.4 day week is also very good but people shouldn't use that to "hustle" more work(I am looking at you Americans! :D).Also the entry of the video is very hilarious.

  • @inderbirsingh3592
    @inderbirsingh3592 13 днів тому +1

    and he's back ladies and gentlemen

  • @Da1its0Uf8oma
    @Da1its0Uf8oma 13 днів тому +1

    first ask their government and central bank to stop printing money. Ask the companies to pay workers their wages. I don't think anyone cares about the people of Japan, including their government. If they really do, they would have taken steps to increase the workers' pay. for the past 15+ years population is declining, nothing is done to address this issue. Soon this will be the case around the world, where income inequality is high.

  • @kuuja4345
    @kuuja4345 12 днів тому +1

    korea in shambles

  • @nopenopenope678
    @nopenopenope678 11 днів тому +1

    No, higher wages will work

  • @Marqan
    @Marqan 13 днів тому +4

    Which day are they getting?
    Will they rename Friday to Friskyday?
    Or Thursday to Thirstday?
    Wednesday to Wetnessday?
    Tuesday to.. I have no idea..
    Monday to Moanday?

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel 12 днів тому

      The days of the week in Japanese are moon(Monday), fire, water, wood, gold, earth/soil, sun so wednesday being wetnessday is perfect.

  • @andrewcruz1931
    @andrewcruz1931 9 днів тому

    I don’t think it would have much effect with dating though . You’d have people just staying in an extra day .

  • @informationtransmitter599
    @informationtransmitter599 День тому

    Canada is now below 1.5, will all indications that it will continue to fall.

  • @evilryutaropro
    @evilryutaropro 13 днів тому +4

    Extinction of Japan sounds kinda overblown. If Japan went extinct it’s prob because humanity went extinct. I don’t think you could see everyone on a large archipelago die off. Just like how the overpopulation crowd of the 1960’s couldn’t have predicted falling birth rates of today people today aren’t going to predict higher birth rates 60 years from now. Once population climbs down and industrialization probably significantly slows down or ends via depletion people will have more children because farming would be more essential.

    • @cybernetic_crocodile8462
      @cybernetic_crocodile8462 11 днів тому

      None of those countires with low birth rates will go extinct. They will just quickly decrease their populations, which will have its consequences, but it won't be any apocalypse.

  • @johnnyng8527
    @johnnyng8527 13 днів тому +1

    Would work but there are also a gender dynamic and financial issue.

  • @kiyasuihito
    @kiyasuihito 10 днів тому

    Can the US get 4 day work weeks please

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku 13 днів тому

    16 years? First time I heard about plummiting birth rates in Japan wasd 1998.

  • @antonbonin5003
    @antonbonin5003 10 днів тому +1

    Japan needs to modernize the workplace. Literally switching from paper filing to digital would over quintuple their efficiency. They could work half the time, and get 4x more work done. They're shooting themselves in the foot by being stubborn.

    • @connorgrynol9021
      @connorgrynol9021 10 днів тому +1

      This implies that Japan would not get by less than their current workforce. Which is not true. Even if they don’t modernize, Japan is perfectly capable of reducing people’s work hours.
      And increasing efficiency wouldn’t reduce work hours, it would just increase profits. The businesses wouldn’t give bonuses or raises, they would just work them the same while they, themselves get wealthier.

  • @tempoaccla4041
    @tempoaccla4041 13 днів тому

    no, with the way they work they need a 3 day work week but a 4 day one might help them survive karoshi a bit more

  • @6ftNaturalBeauty
    @6ftNaturalBeauty 8 днів тому

    It’s moving in the right direction

  • @wiseturtule
    @wiseturtule 13 днів тому +3

    You should have a podcast. And I don't mean make special episodes on the podcast. Just upload the audio from these videos.

  • @seeblu
    @seeblu 13 днів тому +5

    yay more friends online in multiplayer games!!!

  • @_comrade9163
    @_comrade9163 12 днів тому

    40hr per week absolute maximum, 1 free house per child.
    There, easy fix.

  • @Adromelk
    @Adromelk 11 днів тому

    No, all that will happen is their bosses will continue to expect them to work for free now and If they don't, they won't be considering for promotions or raises. Bet.
    Also, their cultural issues on dating and sex won't go away overnight. This stuff is ingrained in them. Sure it's not all bad but it's not helping them either.
    That being said Most of Japan's younger generations don't see the population decline as a problem, only the boomers do. I wonder why. 🤔

  • @azmodanpc
    @azmodanpc 13 днів тому +4

    I think not. It's going to be a placebo until a massive societal change makes baby making a great asset. Technology may help but we need to rethink labor, work and other issues related to the capitalist economy.