It was very considerate of the rear section to come to a stop just in front of the viewing platform! Great video, excellent town for trainwatching. Thanks for sharing this.
This is one of the more interesting train videos I've seen. It's not too often that you get to see the result of an air hose separation and broken knuckle.
WOW!!!!! talk about something rare to see this happend right in front of you lol lucky that the second part of the train did not ram into the frist part of the train and cause a derailment, Outstanding video Eric this is a BIG TIME FAVORITE and two thumbs up
It usually takes a minimum of 60-70psi in the brake line to push the brake shoes OFF of the wheels. (they work the exact opposite of a semi-truck's brakes) That pressure is constantly maintained during operation unless the engineer makes a reduction on the pressure to apply the brakes. If the train separates, the brakes on EVERY car lose that pressure and are instantly applied back onto the wheels.
@CSX2665 Train stopped automatically. When the air hoses broke apart the train automatically goes into emergency. The engineer can't apply any more brakes to an automatic emergency application!
Wow! Only two hour delay? That isn't bad considering the circumstances in this situation. Like Dave said. You can hear the rear of the train roll into the front about 39 seconds. I am surprised the train stopped as quick as it did and that there wasn't as much slack from the second half of the train. I know that there was a knuckle situation on the NS Brooklyn District and it split a coal train in half. There was also a DPU incident which led to a seperation but great video! 5/5/ and a fav!
0:42, that’s where the knuckle breaks. You can hear the slack. Im a conductor, and have experienced the same thing with my own train. The engineer didn’t pop the tail end fast enough and the stack all ran in, and then when the tail end did set up, it ripped it apart in the middle of the train. Neat video!
@troy12n No, they put the car in the storage track there. They had problems with the derail at the storage and had to call a Road Foreman in to work it out. This is where most of the time was spent. CS
@ChessieStorm oooo,i thought the train stopped by itself,since the air brakes r designed to stop the train immediately if an air hose goes loose but how did he kno the train uncoupled???
great catch, 5 stars on it, what i dont understand is the way it broke off.........never seen or heard something like this.........great catch though.........
Thanks to brilliant westinghouse, when the knuckle broke, the seperation broke the air hose between the front and rear sections. As his invention applies air to release the brakes, when the hose broke, the brakes slammed onto the wheels under spring pressure, only being held off be the nonexistent air pressure from the front end.
WOW! I've never seen this happen when I was railfanning. Would be real scary for this to happen on its counterpart, Q604 also which I've seen which is most likely near to about 160 cars running through Lakeland! Glad they fixed the problem & got the manifest on its way! Btw, Great Catch on Q603, he had an awesome lash up too, Never thought an EMD SD70M would lead, only saw it as dead power on Q604 sometimes, Thumbs Up! This is a quality manifest I've never caught before though.
@firecaptain5405 Yea, it crashed pretty loud, the slack that is, around that time. Certainly an unusal sound. One you don't hear too often. The video didn't really pick up how loud the sound was. Fortunately for the conductor it was only 35 cars back and daylight, so he didn't have too far to walk.
Looks like my dreams at night! Segments of trains moving at the same speed and time, but are separated. (even though this one has different speeds between segments, and stops). I must ask, why did this have to happen?
OMG!!! Talk about a rare catch. What are the odds of this happening at Folkston? Crazy. I just gotta wonder what people at the crossings thought when they saw that lol.
Back arround 2004, I heard when a brake hose busted as the train went by my parents house in SW La. I will never forget the loud ssss-wisss noise it made.!! And that train went from 55 to 0 in about 25 seconds.
Great catch!!! Hope you went and bought a lottery ticket after that. Certainly a one-in-a-million video catch. @CSXBOY187 In this situation, the rear end of the train stopped much faster than the head-end of the train while in emergency. You can hear the slack roll into the head end at 00:40 causing the knuckle to break. Since the rear was stopping faster than the head, the inertia carried the head end farther away from the rear. Sucks for the conductor who had to walk the train.
That's a once-in-a-lifetime catch, for sure. Awesome job getting it, Eric. Nothing I can say that hasn't been said already. An incredible fortune for you and just another day at the office for the conductor, I'm sure. Thumbs up, Five stars (if I could), definitely Fav'd and shared with all my friends. *****
Wow! This is certainly the last thing a motorist at one of those level crossings would want to see: a train sever in two directly before his very eyes, and subsequently find himself stranded for a great many hours.
Because there is a lot of walking involved as well as toting the knuckle once you return to the engine to get the knuckle and return 35 cars.Then the fun begins as you replace the coupler. I've done it in my 9 1/2 years working as a brakeman.
with all due respect, the engeneer did not slam on the brakes. when the air hoses part the brakes are fully applied the engeneer has no controil over it.
I've never ever seen anything so strange like this that would totally suprise if i was recording and all of a sudden boom! the train disconnects.that's cool right there.
when all the air is released the breaks auto engaged and even thought the coupler snapped off the first part stopped probably 3/4 of a mile but the second half stop in less time because of the rapid release of air
In the daytime, there was a black tank car between the white tanker and the red boxcar. Yet in the night shot, it clearly shows the white tanker being connected to the boxcar. Was the black tank car set out because it suffered the broken knuckle?
The train did it automatically. The entire train went into emergency as soon as it lost air. As for CP, he's right on except for the engineer hitting the breaks to make it stop faster, once the breaks are applied, there's nothing the engineer can do to help. Trust me, my good friend was an engineer for BNSF. Hope this absolutely clarifies all confusion.
The hose separation caused the brakes to go into emergency all by themselves. That's how train brakes work. Otherwise how would the engineer know there was a problem?
Up here in new York last week a CSX mixed freight went into emergency because the second locomotive CSX C40-8W #7884 caught on fire. I believe due to a blown turbocharger. I live next to the CSX Montreal subdivision and a feed mill run by Gold Star Feed & Grains LLC is right behind my house and the train stopped by the mill on top of the farthest switch leading into the mill siding. And then as the train got back moving the same locomotive almost caught on file again right in front of me going through the crossing at milepost 63. That train had held up 2 or 3 trains ad i know of. One in the yard in Syracuse, one in Watertown (I think), and one in a siding in a town somewhere near Syracuse i can't remember the name.
This is the internet, dont forget. After the knuckle popped, the train cars started drifting apart. Soon after, the air hose (Brake line) disconnected between those two cars. When air pressure leaves the brake lines through the disconnected air hoses, the train brakes automatically apply. Look up train air brakes on Wikipedia. Your welcome for the play-by-play. Its almost easier to look stuff up yourself....
To add to the story, you are referring to a truck's service brakes. Due to the massive bad idea that is a tractor-less trailer bouncing down the highway without brakes, the emergency brakes are designed identically to a train's service brakes, and will apply upon the loss of air pressure.
INSANE!! PURE INSANE!! I so wish i could of been there for this lol i would have had to go change my pants! Never have i seen a train come apart on the move. It's a good thing nothing really bad happened. This just goes to show you'll never know what could happen on the tracks. Sucks UA-cam put that thumbs up crap on here, this one is for the books!! Amazing catch man!!
Why would you comment on something you dont understand? When an airhose seperates, the brakes come on automatically. And how does an engineer slam on the brakes? I didnt know there was a brake pedal in a locomotive cab.
Sorry but,the engineer did not slam on the brakes.. When the air hose separated the brakes came on automatically and slowed the train to a safe stop..Even the bakes on the free rolling cars had their brakes applied that's how they rolled to a smooth stop instead of making a high impact coupling with the rest of the train....
Wow!
I've been railfanning now for 20 years and have never seen that. Great catch and nice edit job on the video.
DH
Tampa
HI railfan Danny Harmon
I didn't expect to see you here
Great job having the camera rolling and the radio hot! Very interesting video!
It was very considerate of the rear section to come to a stop just in front of the viewing platform! Great video, excellent town for trainwatching. Thanks for sharing this.
This is one of the more interesting train videos I've seen. It's not too often that you get to see the result of an air hose separation and broken knuckle.
Wow, great catch. Thank's to everyone for explaining all the different sounds. I wouldn't have known what each one was exactly.
You can hear that air hose go prety near to the back of the units!
What abit of filming, great stuff!
A fascinating occurrence to catch on video. The mid-train separation was especially a surprise!
Thanks for posting.
I remember watching this video so much when I was young
Lucky and amazing catch Eric!! You never know what could happen while railfanning. Glad to see nothing bad did happen.
Thumbs up and a Favorite!!
WOW!!!!! talk about something rare to see this happend right in front of you lol lucky that the second part of the train did not ram into the frist part of the train and cause a derailment, Outstanding video Eric this is a BIG TIME FAVORITE and two thumbs up
It usually takes a minimum of 60-70psi in the brake line to push the brake shoes OFF of the wheels. (they work the exact opposite of a semi-truck's brakes) That pressure is constantly maintained during operation unless the engineer makes a reduction on the pressure to apply the brakes. If the train separates, the brakes on EVERY car lose that pressure and are instantly applied back onto the wheels.
A black tank was at the separation then they couple a white tank to the rest of the train ?
@CSX2665 Train stopped automatically. When the air hoses broke apart the train automatically goes into emergency. The engineer can't apply any more brakes to an automatic emergency application!
WOW. I was counting cars until 0:44 and realized I sure wasn't going to miss that.
Wow! Only two hour delay? That isn't bad considering the circumstances in this situation. Like Dave said. You can hear the rear of the train roll into the front about 39 seconds. I am surprised the train stopped as quick as it did and that there wasn't as much slack from the second half of the train. I know that there was a knuckle situation on the NS Brooklyn District and it split a coal train in half. There was also a DPU incident which led to a seperation but great video! 5/5/ and a fav!
Excellent job shooting and narrating! Nice work including the scanner traffic!
That's what being in the right place at the right time is all about. Nice video!
0:42, that’s where the knuckle breaks. You can hear the slack. Im a conductor, and have experienced the same thing with my own train. The engineer didn’t pop the tail end fast enough and the stack all ran in, and then when the tail end did set up, it ripped it apart in the middle of the train. Neat video!
Always blaming the engineer
wow great catch not only does the train break apart it happens right in front of you. thumbs up and faves. very rare sight to see
@distantsignal
Thanks Danny. Like you been doing it a while and this was a first for me too.
Thanks for watching.
CS
Spring Hill
@troy12n
No, they put the car in the storage track there. They had problems with the derail at the storage and had to call a Road Foreman in to work it out. This is where most of the time was spent.
CS
I should upload the longer version of this and make it look presentable again since UA-cam decided to shrink this one
Cool lashup and footage of the emergency stop!
My goodness, what did UA-cam due to my videos, looks like they stretched it and compressed it too much. ugh
@ChessieStorm oooo,i thought the train stopped by itself,since the air brakes r designed to stop the train immediately if an air hose goes loose but how did he kno the train uncoupled???
"This ain't a good situation."
Understatement of the year. Nice vid.
One in a million shot!
great catch, 5 stars on it, what i dont understand is the way it broke off.........never seen or heard something like this.........great catch though.........
Did They Ever Replace The Air Hoses......
How busy was Folkston after Q603 got out of there?
I'm from Powder Springs, GA. Do you see more CSX or Norfolk Southern trains where you are in Folkston?
nice job i like the comments on a video makes it more instating once in a life time catch
Thanks to brilliant westinghouse, when the knuckle broke, the seperation broke the air hose between the front and rear sections. As his invention applies air to release the brakes, when the hose broke, the brakes slammed onto the wheels under spring pressure, only being held off be the nonexistent air pressure from the front end.
jfsa380 ...no. the brakes apply from the pressure inside the pressure tank on each car controlled by the 3 way valve.
did the train stop automatically or did the engineer slam the brakes?
WOW! I've never seen this happen when I was railfanning. Would be real scary for this to happen on its counterpart, Q604 also which I've seen which is most likely near to about 160 cars running through Lakeland! Glad they fixed the problem & got the manifest on its way! Btw, Great Catch on Q603, he had an awesome lash up too, Never thought an EMD SD70M would lead, only saw it as dead power on Q604 sometimes, Thumbs Up! This is a quality manifest I've never caught before though.
@firecaptain5405
Yea, it crashed pretty loud, the slack that is, around that time. Certainly an unusal sound. One you don't hear too often. The video didn't really pick up how loud the sound was.
Fortunately for the conductor it was only 35 cars back and daylight, so he didn't have too far to walk.
Ahhh sweet!! I remember when this happened in my back yard back in 2003. An ns train was racing through and the train ended up splitting apart.
Looks like my dreams at night! Segments of trains moving at the same speed and time, but are separated. (even though this one has different speeds between segments, and stops). I must ask, why did this have to happen?
They took the tanker off and put it where?
OMG!!! Talk about a rare catch. What are the odds of this happening at Folkston? Crazy. I just gotta wonder what people at the crossings thought when they saw that lol.
@CSX2665
It does stop on its own when it loses air pressure.
Back arround 2004, I heard when a brake hose busted
as the train went by my parents house in SW La.
I will never forget the loud ssss-wisss noise it made.!!
And that train went from 55 to 0 in about 25 seconds.
What a great catch, Thanks for posting
Thanks for the all the comments, lucky to say the least.
I hope you all pardon the obvious statements in here when it happened.
@ChessieStorm The train automatically slams on brakes. Anytime an airline comes lose the train goes into emergency.
I also noticed the last set of trucks on the black tanker were locked when the train started to move b4 the brakes were released..
@DetroitLove4U
There's a storage track just south of town along track 1, so the train crew put the tanker in the storage track for pick up later.
Great catch!!! Hope you went and bought a lottery ticket after that. Certainly a one-in-a-million video catch.
@CSXBOY187
In this situation, the rear end of the train stopped much faster than the head-end of the train while in emergency. You can hear the slack roll into the head end at 00:40 causing the knuckle to break. Since the rear was stopping faster than the head, the inertia carried the head end farther away from the rear. Sucks for the conductor who had to walk the train.
What a great catch. Awesome video.
That's a once-in-a-lifetime catch, for sure. Awesome job getting it, Eric. Nothing I can say that hasn't been said already. An incredible fortune for you and just another day at the office for the conductor, I'm sure. Thumbs up, Five stars (if I could), definitely Fav'd and shared with all my friends. *****
Took him 2 hours to change out a knuckle?
@Boots1282
Yea, it wasn't frozen in time this time.
WOW!!! Great catch on this and I know it wasnt a good thing but I would like to have been there for this. Like and Fav.
right place right time. beautiful
Can't believe the braking was loose. Fav'd it.
Wow it is cool that the cars that uncoupled were following the rest of the train
Holly cow ! the automatic emergency brakes system at work !
This always happen my model lay yal my first time seen it in person.
Wow!
This is certainly the last thing a motorist at one of those level crossings would want to see: a train sever in two directly before his very eyes, and subsequently find himself stranded for a great many hours.
Awesome catch, thanks for sharing.
so thats what happend was watching the web cam at folkston and was trying to figure out why he was stop for so long
Because there is a lot of walking involved as well as toting the knuckle once you return to the engine to get the knuckle and return 35 cars.Then the fun begins as you replace the coupler.
I've done it in my 9 1/2 years working as a brakeman.
No ... the engineer drops the knuckle off and pulls the head end up to the knuckle. You only walk as the last option.
The black tank car had a broken knuckle so they set it out. But the track they set it out in had issues. That caused the long delay.
AWESOME so simular to a Millenniumforce video.
with all due respect, the engeneer did not slam on the brakes. when the air hoses part the brakes are fully applied the engeneer has no controil over it.
Sweet, but kind of scary catch, at least you got footage of it and the 2 lead engines were SD70M's!
wow never exepect an Emergency in Folkston Ga awesome video :)
Michael Scott
I've never ever seen anything so strange like this that would totally suprise if i was recording and all of a sudden boom! the train disconnects.that's cool right there.
Front row seat to the drama!
How cool is that?
wow talk about being in the right spot, good catch
when all the air is released the breaks auto engaged and even thought the coupler snapped off the first part stopped probably 3/4 of a mile but the second half stop in less time because of the rapid release of air
Both portions would be in emergency. The difference in stopping distance would be based upon the TOB of each individual cut or equipment.
In the daytime, there was a black tank car between the white tanker and the red boxcar. Yet in the night shot, it clearly shows the white tanker being connected to the boxcar. Was the black tank car set out because it suffered the broken knuckle?
yes, they could not find a replacement knuckle for it, so they set it off in the storage track right there.
at 0:11, you can hear the train dump the air, thats when the knuckle and air hose broke.
Right place at the right time.Good stuff.
@ke4crc
Thanks, it was exciting for sure when it happened.
That was a great video, dude! Great catch! :)
The train did it automatically. The entire train went into emergency as soon as it lost air. As for CP, he's right on except for the engineer hitting the breaks to make it stop faster, once the breaks are applied, there's nothing the engineer can do to help. Trust me, my good friend was an engineer for BNSF. Hope this absolutely clarifies all confusion.
Dang now thats a one in a million shot!!!!!
Virtual railfan caught a more recent separation here.
how late was q603?
The hose separation caused the brakes to go into emergency all by themselves. That's how train brakes work. Otherwise how would the engineer know there was a problem?
DAMN!! Possibly the luckiest catch EVER!! Right place at the right time!
@murjax
Many turned around and headed to the bridge overpass to get to the other side of town.
Up here in new York last week a CSX mixed freight went into emergency because the second locomotive CSX C40-8W #7884 caught on fire. I believe due to a blown turbocharger. I live next to the CSX Montreal subdivision and a feed mill run by Gold Star Feed & Grains LLC is right behind my house and the train stopped by the mill on top of the farthest switch leading into the mill siding. And then as the train got back moving the same locomotive almost caught on file again right in front of me going through the crossing at milepost 63. That train had held up 2 or 3 trains ad i know of. One in the yard in Syracuse, one in Watertown (I think), and one in a siding in a town somewhere near Syracuse i can't remember the name.
That Train was HAULING! What a catch!
damn I've never seen that on any video..............great catch!
This is the internet, dont forget. After the knuckle popped, the train cars started drifting apart. Soon after, the air hose (Brake line) disconnected between those two cars. When air pressure leaves the brake lines through the disconnected air hoses, the train brakes automatically apply. Look up train air brakes on Wikipedia. Your welcome for the play-by-play. Its almost easier to look stuff up yourself....
@mikephfl
Yep, and to think I was upset that I wasn't on the other side of the tracks for the shoot.
All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great catch! Stopped in the perfect spot for you!
@ChessieStorm How do you know?
To add to the story, you are referring to a truck's service brakes. Due to the massive bad idea that is a tractor-less trailer bouncing down the highway without brakes, the emergency brakes are designed identically to a train's service brakes, and will apply upon the loss of air pressure.
Nice catch. Awesome post. I subbed to your channel as well.
INSANE!!
PURE INSANE!!
I so wish i could of been there for this lol i would have had to go change my pants!
Never have i seen a train come apart on the move.
It's a good thing nothing really bad happened.
This just goes to show you'll never know what could happen on the tracks.
Sucks UA-cam put that thumbs up crap on here, this one is for the books!!
Amazing catch man!!
how did the second half go into full breaking?
Same way the first half did.
Why would you comment on something you dont understand? When an airhose seperates, the brakes come on automatically. And how does an engineer slam on the brakes? I didnt know there was a brake pedal in a locomotive cab.
Great. (not for the engineer, but for us)
Good video
Sorry but,the engineer did not slam on the brakes..
When the air hose separated the brakes came on automatically and slowed the train to a safe stop..Even the bakes on the free rolling cars had their brakes applied that's how they rolled to a smooth stop instead of making a high impact coupling with the rest of the train....
Totally 💯 agree
Automatically stops if the airhose snapped. He's got no control over the air in that case.