Peter Pan BURNED as Disney Chases Modern Audience
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Peter Pan is the latest animation to get a live action remake "reimagining" from Disney. A Neverland movie going straight to the Disneyplus streaming service this movie features huge changes from the original source material that has has ignited a response from fans that it seems like Disney loves so much. is Peter Pan live action remake worth watching?
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Disney and their Peter Pan remake come out in the most predictable way possible, although I'm not sure they're sending the message they think they are, nor judging by the trailer reaction is the modern audience excuse working anymore. As this is a movie coming straight to Disneyplus not even hitting cinemas, it will be interesting to see the reactions to it. When you can show it alongside examples of what is happening rather than a description of a cinema picture, I have a feeling, there will be a lot of clips to come out of this one. But what do you think? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
Disney will never learn, will they
Give me "Hook" any day of the week, a great cast, a competent story, and some truley memerable moments. For its worth i dont mind Jude Law as Cptn Hook. Hes a good actor and the design isnt bad.
Why not call wendy peter and vice versa? Or call them both "they" and tell the same story for the modern world we live in today?
What is a Woman?
Disney-Updated Special effects.
@@LocalGooberGoobs Disneypsus...
Wendy was special because she was the only girl on the island. The lost boys considered her their adoptive mother. If there were other girls there, nobody would have cared when Wendy showed up.
Yeah. Tinkerbell and the mermaids are all jealous over Wendy taking Peter's attention.
Correct
So to be more "inclusive", they made girls stupid and Wendy pointless.
Why wouldn’t/couldn’t girls want an adoptive mother. They seem to be really young as well.
The point of the original Peter Pan was basically that boys need their mothers to become real men. Without a mother, Peter Pan and his lost Boys remained perpetually children, which the book made quite clear is not a good thing, because Peter Pan is a massive asshole in the original text....
making Wendy just 'one of the guys' completely negates the point of the story, ruins her character, and robs any thematic weight the story once had. So really you have to wonder what chucklefuck wrote this script, because you can tell from the trailer that they kept nothing of any importance....
When Tinkerbell screamed "Black lives matter'" and burned down the island......man, that was something else.
I actually cried during that scene, it made me rethink my life and go buy cigarettes with fake 20s.
It's Tinkerbellin' time.
Faaaairies built this island!
Peacefully burned down the island
😂😂😂😂
The Lost Boys were a commentary on a segment of young orphans who were living on the street and often engaged in criminal activity, and how they were "lost" from a society that had essentially thrown them away. The reason it was boys is because girls were more likely to either be adopted or taken on as servants, so they were less likely to end up on the street. These boys often never grew up, because they would die young. So when the end of the film comes and they come back to "society," it was a big deal. This was a Victorian and Edwardian issue, as industrialization grew the harshness of the lives of these boys became a social issue and yes, charitable groups took this up. That's why today it's a name given to the boys kicked out of FLDS Mormon polygamous groups in the US, as they are tossed from the community with nothing but what they can carry and limited support.
So now they're just...
Kids?
Doesn't have the same meaning. They could have used this to educate on this historical problem, but instead...
Equality?
interesting
Disney - "theres a Book?" we just watched the cartoon and Robin Williams, nobody mentioned a book. Does this mean we'll have to learn to read? Don't worry, It'll be fine.
really smart comment. thx far background adittional info!
I think understanding the origins of this story and the historical context are indeed important
This is lost on modern film makers. None of them are educated enough to know any of this
The whole point of Wendy being so important to Peter and the boys is that ..they all missed mom. She was the only girl around since forever and they loved her as a sort of "mom" in a way. Having lost girls would defeat the purpose I think
Honestly, there was a whole tribe of native women...if they were going to remove this aspect of the story from Wendy all of those moms could have made the point that the lost boys needed moms and encouraged Wendy to accept her womanhood. But these hacks...
yet the faires and mermaids were women.. there were other females on the island.
its not neverland its wokelandia wakanda
@@xenxander yeah but I'm saying diverse representation was right there and heck those native men could be something more than boogie men...what a waste
Well maybe not. If the kids group have the same purpous, but they will be more of a Lost Children. Little girls, and boys needed a older figure. But this movie will never did ut. Look het. LOOK Inclusive.
The best part was when Peter Pan said "The hook is literal perfection." But then Wendy says "It will be...when it fits a woman."
💀💀💀
☆ Pedro Pan
One time, I accidentally stumbled upon a guro hentai. It depicted a woman who inserted a hook inside her vagina and then proceeded to skin her whole body by pulling as hard as she could in a single motion! The result of her efforts were horrendous....
I want this to happen to Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk.
😂😂😂
@@johndodo2062 In the original book, he was Pedo Pan. Oh, they didn't say so, in so many words, but he was.
At this level this isn't remake anymore, this is Necromancy
More like necrophilia.
Should somebody inform the Paladins that Disney needs to be purged? 😄
@@johannesseyfried7933 If they don't already know by now, Disney must've already slain them in their sleep.
Lmao, fantastic comment
Necromancy makes it sound like way more care and effort was put in.
This is propping the corpse up in a chair and using ventriloquism to speak for it, then pretending it's Necromancy.
When Wendy turned on her lightsaber and screamed "The Force is female!" at the top of her lungs and took down two grown men, I was on the edge of my seat!
Hook was the Peter pan film "for modern audiences" which did that sort of thing right. Continued the story instead of retreading or rebooting, continues the themes with slight alternations keeping the same lighthearted feel and doesn't confuse audiences by changing that. Doesn't race or gender swamp main characters, introduces new characters that complement the old without belittling them and adds new elements to existing characters.
Oh and it did this all without alienating existing fans or new viewers.
Hook is my favorite Peter Pan movie.
it helped that they cast really good actors; Maggie Smith as Wendy, Robin Williams as Peter, Dustin Hoffman as Hook. plus as you say they didn't monkey with the source material but built on the existing story.
Nobody talking about the film Pan
I miss Robin Williams 😢💔
anyone remember peter pan 2003? or am i the only one who saw that film?
Having a woman play Peter Pan in the original plays wasn’t about social justice. It was logical. If you want an experienced actor to lead your show, but also not be a grown up, you use a woman. Their voices are higher and their body frames are smaller. Casting an experienced male actor with a mature, deep voice would be silly, and trying to find an 11 year old male to lead your play would be a disaster.
Actually young girls played Peter Pan on stage.
@@siewheilou399 Betty Bronson (1924) The first-ever cinematic adaptation of Peter Pan had the leader of the Lost Boys being played by Bronson, whom author J.M. Barrie himself recommended for the role. She was 18 at the time.
Mary Martin, the original Broadway Peter Pan. Originally a dance instructor, she came to Broadway during the Depression to begin her career as a professional actress. A daughter of Texas, she originally began work as a dance instructor until a local evangelical-adherent burned down her studio citing her work as being too sinful for human nature. Coming to New York City, she appeared on Broadway introducing the song "My Heart Belongs to Daddy". She later made a name for herself in several Hollywood musicals during the 1940s and later in her career enjoyed huge success as Peter Pan, which she cited as her favorite role. She was 40 years old when she played Peter on stage.
Should I keep going?
@@siewheilou399 dunno where you got that information, but unfortunately for you they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about
They cast adult women because that was she wouldn't outgrow the role in a few years... and, you know, was almost always a much better actor....
"A disaster?" Haven't you ever heard of "young male actors?" I already checked.....they do exsist.
@@PeterParker-gz6ml like in The Phantom Menace... Oh...
Now, now, everyone knows Jennifer Lawrence was the first woman, ever.
*Ellen Ripley appears as the Wonder Woman theme plays*
Tink got her fairy dust from Jlaw
😂😂😂😂
So Jennifer Lawrence is in truth Lilith, the core of the true nature of women, the mother of beasts and the mistress of Lucifer. Good to know.
I am sure the author of the bible was based AF.
Can we get a new one, she seems broken.
The part when Disney loses millions of dollars and burns to the ground really touched my heart.
Wendy is a central figure in the story of Peter Pan because of her womanhood. Nevermind the fact that she is supposed to be the only girl there (they bring her to Neverland to be the Lost Boys' mother) but there's an interpretation of the story that views the story through Wendy's lens. Her adventure to Neverland occurs right when she is nearly too old to remain in the nursery. She is on the cusp of womanhood and this interpretation provides a very interesting view of her experiences in that other world and her embracing the role of a mother. And then we can review some of her interactions with some of the other characters, like when Peter asks her for a kiss but she gives him a thimble. But it also plays a role in the jealousy that Tinkerbell has toward her.
I think removing some of that 'coming of age' aspect of Wendy's story arc is something of a crime in any Peter Pan tale. It is partly what makes the story more compelling, especially when Wendy ultimately chooses to grow up.
But see now she is empowered! Shes a proper girlboss and not being forced to be the adult.
@@newtpondskipper EMPOWERMENT!🙆♂️
Yes, this is THE central theme of the story! Wendy wanting not to grow up but then eventually learning to accept womanhood and choosing to grow up after all TT
"People whose IQ couldn't boil water". Perfect description not only of those characters, but also the writers/cast and the "modern audience".
@Toask ok Groomer. One of Joe's boys for sure.
@Toask Agreed, Brandon is not a great barometer for intelligence. Blatant corruption and incompetence, but not intelligence.
Was discussing this new movie with my son and he tartly observed that the term 'the modern audience' is a euphemism for zombies.
People whose IQ couldn't boil water? Even, people whose IQ couldn't even melt water...
Like people that hate Trump, because they swallow the lies about him told by his enemies, and believe they are smart, because they are told so by those who who manipulate them.
@Toask Are you regarded?
I think I can live happily without ever seeing another remake.
Seeing another remake? Wait.... you're actually watching these abominations?
Any way for us to preserve the originals? I don't mind the 4:3 ratio.
i mean like, the little mermaid is super cool in concept, underwater scenes? thats super interesting. atlantis: the lost empire would look amazing in live action as would treasure planet.
Can you live happily ever after without ever seeing it.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 Yes.
'But you're not all boys?!'
'Wendy did you just assume our gender?'
I'm surprised it didn't end up like that tbh
they could have just called them "the lost kids", yet that would not provoke enough outrage I guess
😂
the way they respond "so?" just proves how great the writing is, well done Disney 👍
@@lilithiaabendstern6303 so it’s ok to change? Lets see, Netflix made a whole play of Madison with the main character was portrayed as black. So if this is ok, Black Panther can be cast as a white man?
Or MLK can be a white man?
Check your reasoning before you say “it can be so”
R.I.P. Disney
We will remember you at your best because your worst is easy to forget at this point.
Further proof they modern Hollywood doesn't know how to write a strong woman without turning her into a man. Feminism has destroyed femininity. Wendy was a strong character in the fact that she was a guiding light for the lost boys and Pan. She was a maternal figure. She was their grounding in reality that they couldn't just play pretend forever and had to grow up.
Now she's just a generic girl-boss who can swordfight pirates 3x her size.
Amazing. Score another one for feminism. Turning women into men. Truly a victory for women.
They also can't make a woman look strong without denigrating all the men around her. Implying that to be strong is to bully and beat down all those around you, which is displayed both literally by the characters on screen and metaphorically by the writers.
Feminism doesn't have anything to do with what happens with this movie. Feminism is what allowed the wendy version of the 2003 peter pan movie, in which wendy had the dream of becoming an adventure novelist, something not very well seen at the time for women. And she was still wendy and a well constructed character.
@@mmecharlotte or they are written as weak/" basic". They had a great chance in netflix with the winx club live action, to represent a group of girls/women, all friends and very different in their style. All feminine but each with their own type of expressing their femininity, and all strong, smart, capable and independent. And also of representing healthy female friendship.
But no, they had to make stella and bloom rivals over a guy and dress everyone horribly and make everything dark and gritty.
People in tv need to look back at charmed and buffy and magical girl type cartoons and remember that you can have a female characters who likes glitter and pretty feminine fashion, who may be introverted or shy, etc, and also can kick ass all at the same time in one sense or another. Because animated disney wendy might not be able to sword fight, but she slashed with words, the way she talked to everyone , calling out their bs with 0 fear XD.
They aren't leaving the past where it is.
They're killing it.
After they're done r@p1ng it.
And any goodwill they had is forever gone.
They took Kylo Ren too seriously.
@@majorgear1021 damn straight they did
@@majorgear1021 They MADE Kylo Ren, he was the embodiment of their personalities. a loud, unstable, destroyer of greatness from the past using unearned power and an utter lack of logic while depending entirely on nostalgia for his existence in the first place...the perfect match for Rey. Two sides of the same coin.
You know there is a problem when Disney has so little faith in a project that they will dump it straight to streaming instead of releasing another big screen flop.
Fun fact : Hook was described as ugly and nearly corpse-like in the novel, he was essentially a grotesque caricature of what Peter Pan fears the most: aging.
I love the part where Wendy says, "Sir, this is not Neverland. This is a Wendy's."
well then set it aside...
Booooooooooo
I'll have a #1 with cheese Biggie sized and a Frosty please.
I'll have two number 9s
@@allouttabubblegum799 Have you tried the Wendy's TTRPG? You can probably still find it on the internet somewhere even if the original DL source is dead.
Ahhh Disney, they sure love to burn down every last bit of decent wholesome entertainment from my childhood.
you haven't even seen the movie yet but you have already concluded it's bad because it has people of other race and gender. If you don't see what's wrong with your mindset, I don't know what to tell you.
The actual entertainment still exists in dvds, vhs, and pirate stuff. The new stuff is just drivel tbh
@@patrick7142 did you watch the video?
@@patrick7142 Ssshhhtttt! Not everything is about rasicm!😘
@@patrick7142 Never go full woketard.
What I love about the original Wendy (and heck even the movie Neverland) was that Wendy was the only girl- the voice of reason, she was warm and compassionate- she didn't have to be a sword wielding girlboss because she already 'better' than the lost boys in terms of maturity and wisdom. The original Wendy KNEW that growing up, having a family, watching your kids grow was, itself, magical. She chose the magic of the EVERYDAY over pirates and mermaids. That, I think, was the whole point of the story. Choosing to leave Neverland and find the magic in the mundane. This new Wendy will be hard to convince to leave since she seems to be having a great time. I wouldn't be surprised if they ret-conned the ending where she stays as the new 'captain'- totally undermining the original message.
We already had a live action Peter Pan movie, it was called hook with the late Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman and Julia Roberts. And as I remember the lost boys were extremely diverse. It was literally a perfect adaptation to a classic movie. Anything else will be mediocre
My one criticism is Tink. She wasn't nearly b tchy enough, but her infatuation with Peter is accurate
@mobbs6426 think she wasn't btchy enough was because she was older and became less jealous since Peter grew up. She wasn't a child like fairy anymore.
Peter Pan: Come with me to Neverland, Wendy. You'll never have to grow up!
Wendy: No thanks. I can just put a bunch of pronouns in my social media profile, move to LA, get a job in the entertainment industry, and play pretend for the rest of my life.
LOL yeah the adult daycare that was the old Twitter
imagine hating pronouns when literally you use them every day of your life when people has to refer to you 😂 imagine being upset at words
Well you somehow do it every time we call women - women and men - men, when no amount of scrossdressing will ever change that.
Wendy: Stop Man-splaining me, Peter!!! OMG!
@@EveTheRaviolo You were just upset at words.
When Hook and Pan reveal their love for each other in the middle of that Lozt Boys orgy was truly stunning and brave. My wife's boyfriend and I cried so much.
Good point. I wonder how much the little girls like the raunchy sex part.... Because historically, y'know... We can't let them complain, after the fact, when they find out, it's not for girls.
They knew they weren't welcome.
Did she leave you both after that?
Did Wendy Join In?
The part when Peter told wendy i can fly and she said i can fly better then you was such a good scene
7:30 my thoughts exactly. If they want representation there are thousands of myths and folk tales hailing from peoples of all demographics. Why is it so difficult to do one of those? Moana may not be my favorite Disney animated movie but that is an excellent example of representation done properly and people loved it.
People want new stories now more than ever.
Lilo and Stitch is another perfect example of a culturally diverse film done right.
as a matter of fact i don't think there's a single white person in that film, and i never even thought about that until now, because its never been a problem since it was an original story that took place in a realistic and more importantly; _BELIEVABLE_ cultural setting.
can you imagine the screams and outrage if someone did a live action version of Lilo and Stitch and replaced the native hawaiians with white people?
Exactly 💯
Because of lack of creativity, obviously. It's easier to change the already exist interesting stories instead of creating whole new ones. Lack of confidence, too.
Whoever said the gal playing Tinker Bell is the first black disney fairy knows NOTHING of disney fairies. WHY does everyone keep forgetting about the 3d animated Tinker Bell movies?! They were some of my favorites growing up - adorable characters, good storylines, and actual decent values to teach the kids.
Because it was a flop?
@@siewheilou399 cause this' gonna be a blockbuster eh? 🙄
I didn't see those until I was an adult, but I have to admit, they are a guilty pleasure of mine. And you're right, the fairies were pretty diverse in that. But the difference there is that it felt natural.
It's the "first openly gay character" thing all over again. I'm willing to bet some articles are calling this version of Tinkerbell Disney's first black character.
I actually really liked the second one.
I never say no to a good treasure hunt! 😊
When Peter took the decision to transition and Wendy to took the decision to transition so they could meet each other in the middle, that was so stunning and brave
When Tinkerbell turns to Peter, holds out her hand and says "Come with me if you want to live!" sent shivers down my spine!
My favorite character in the 'Hook' movie was Rufio and he was Polynesian I think. Race was never an issue until they threw a spotlight down ontop of it.
The actor also voiced Zuko in ATLA.
I always liked the fat kid that rolled into people.
Rufio and Thud x3
Hook is still one of my fav Peter Pan Movies
"Ru-Fee-Ooohhhhhh!!!" ✊️
Thudball is still my guy.
Peter Pan can compete with grown angry pirates because he's an immortal who has been fighting for longer than anyone else has been alive.
Wendy can do it because she has feminist rage.
I'm sure it's over the pay gap.
Peter Pan is gonna be a pedo in the new movie. How much you wanna bet I’m right
No. The real reason Peter Pan can compete with grown angry pirates is that he is male. The same rage for combat runs in his veins as it does for the pirates. Asian cultures already understand this which is why shonen anime exists in Japan.
@@kaizokujimbei143 Ye but they are grown men. Pan is just a boy.
This is all semantics tho, pick your battles. Both are reasons that make sense. Wendy swordfighting makes 0 sense.
not really? She can because she's literally in a fantasy world where you can fly with fairy powder, talk to mermaids and where kids fight against pirates on a daily basis. I love how when all the kids of the movie sword fight pirates everyone is ok, but when the only girl of the movie does it everyone starts screaming "FeMInIsM!!!1!!!!" lmao
Also plenty of peter Pan movies have Wendy joining in in the sword fights against pirates, having her little fun with the other kids, and still keeping the core message of her deciding to not dwell on childplay forever and go back to her world, grow up and become an adult. The 2003 Peter Pan movie was pretty nice!
When I heard Tick-Tock the Crocodile recite the “I Have A Dream” speech, I felt more awe and wonder than I had ever felt with a Disney film beforehand. Truly an inspiration among cinematic reptiles.
That part where Wendy took Peter's Big Kahuna Burger and ate it, exclaiming "That is a tasty burger!" had me in tears!
Remember in "Hook" when the Lost Boys took on Hook's pirates with their brains and not strength alone!
But that would not fit with the current narrative, where women are GODS AMOUNG THE SUB HUMAN MEN!!!!!! Where a 90 pound girl could defeat grown men in feats of strength and skill
"Let the past die. Hold it down and violate it like prison if you have to." - Hollywood
😆
That's my line - Kylo Ren
My favorite part was when Wendy said " I am ALL the Jedi!!!" And Killed the story fill in Emperor. Truly breathtaking.
Every time I think Disney has hit rock bottom, they blow me out of the water. At this point, even if they ever recover and go back to making family entertainment, I will have nothing to do with them. They have attempted to totally destroy some of my most treasured childhood memories. If the entire company folded tomorrow, the party would be noteworthy. I got sick of them and sold my stock @ $187 in 2021.
"You must be a biological boy to be one of the Lost Boys."
"Where is that written, though?"
"In the name 'Lost Boys'."
Don't tell me that's actual dialogue. Are you sure it's not from Velma?
@@rommix0 It's modified from an exchange between a random leftist and Ben Shapiro. Swap "Lost Boys" with "Boy Scouts" and it's just about verbatim.
Reeeeeeee! That toxic masculinity!!!
@@ironcladnomad5639 It's pretty stupid regardless of the reference. Ben Shapiro is a useless tool.
Did you just assume their genders?
LOL
We already have two good live-action adaptations of Peter Pan: Hook (1991), with Robin Williams and the Peter Pan (2003) live action starring Jeremy Sumpter.
The Hook (1991) film asks: what if Peter chose to grow up and left Neverland? It's an interesting concept because of his relationship with the Lost Boys and Tinkerbell upon his return and having to make the choice of going back to reality or staying in the fantasy of Neverland.
Peter Pan (2003) is a great adaptation as it stayed true to the main story. I really liked the addition of the scene where Peter reunites with Wendy when she's grown up and has become a mother. It gives the audience a hint that Peter may have regretted his choice not to grow up, yet he sticks to his decision to never grow old.
Unless this new adaptation is going to add something new to the story that wasn't already explored in the previous adaptations, I don't see the point of this film aside from race/gender swapping. If these are the only changes, it comes off as shallow and boring. Give us something new and original, please!
Race/gender swapping is the whole point of this movie, just as it was with Little Black Mermaid.
They have trans girls, trans boys now.
Hook 1991 was really an interesting movie. The storytelling along with it is intriguing.
I really love the scene. Especially the Lost boys (they're like a thousand of them)
The Ending scene was badass and rebelious. BANGARANG !
Pretty sure Peter will just decide not to be a racist man, and then transition into a woman.
"Hook" was more of a sequel. And it was crap.
Never have I been more confident I could make a better movie than Hollywood.
This is an excellent and pretty dense video. You’re absolutely right: “If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn’t need to use that an as excuse, they’d lead with the themes, they’d lead with the story.”
There was a time when I loved Disney, its hard to believe now. It was in the 70's through the 90's, there was some good stuff back then.
The 2000s had some masterpieces. More so from Pixar than Disney but still
I'm glad I grew up with 90's Disney. Makes a great comparison to today's
Wonderful World of Disney on Sunday nights was good stuff when I was a kid back then. BTW, you and I are old now, cheers.
@@dudeguy8686 Dame here. 80's, 90's and early 2000's are God old times.
@@finnmcginn9931 Cheers!
To paraphrase the immortal Pink Floyd: Hey! Disney, leave them kids alone!
Are people forgetting Peter Pan has had 100 reboots? This is the latest one. Hugh Jackman was in Pan in 2013 and that movie tanked. And 2003 version was good but it also failed at the box office. People are just being racist because Tinkerbell is black as if black women can't play feminine roles. No one was mad at Ursula being played by a black woman, but went nuts at black Ariel. VERY telling.
@@suzygirl1843 I don't have a problem with Tinkerbell being black, I have a problem with Peter Pan being re-written as feminist/diversity/inclusion propaganda.
@@gagatube 1995 Hook was rewritten for Peter to be grown up. 2013, Peter Pan and Captain Hook were re-written and Black Beard was the main villain. Rewritings are fine.
@@gagatube Western cinema has ALWAYS been propaganda. The first film ever made was Birth Of A Nation about the KKK
@@suzygirl1843 "The first film ever made" - indulging in a little propaganda, or at least hyperbole, yourself, aren't you? Oh, and re-writings are only fine if they are done well with some respect for the source material.
I'm just amazed they could control themselves and not make a scene where Wendy and Tinker Bell go crazy on each other, and Tinker goes sprinkling all over the place.
I think all wokeness will be referred to as Post Velma and Pre Velma because that show made even the wokest of woke people address the wokeness. Truly an achievement. In other words, Velma was the breaking point. Movies/shows that are gonna come after that, like this are going to suffer seriously both financially and critically.
50 years of Norman Learism has got to stop.
I think I'll just purchase Hook on 4K and call it a day.
I just had this thought: If the Lost Boys includes girls... what, pray tell, leads Peter to grow any sort of interest in Wendy? "Oh, hey! Another girl... eh, seen one, seen 'em all..."
The argument could be made that mermaids exist in Never Land as well, but Peter was bored of them when he found Wendy...
There aren't any straight white girls in the Lost Boys.
It's just that the mermaids are half-fish too, so nah
Exactly!!! Wendy's arc is the epitome of a feminine power overcoming the pitfalls of masculine fantasy. Literally their whole message. Yet it was written nowadays so they have to shoehorn modern politics in even tho with a good writer they could meet said goals. I'm just at the point where I think they don't know how to write
Like Mulan
We already have a _good_ live-action _Peter Pan._ The 2003 movie with Jeremy Sumpter and Rachel Hurd-Wood. It more directly referenced the source material and dealt with the themes in a complex way. Not to mention that everyone in the main cast absolutely owned their roles.
Yes, agree!! Plus, Jason Isaacs rocked both Mr. Darling and Captain Hook. He looked so kuch better than Jude Law does in this movie.
They knew it was gonna get roasted if they blocked it
The girls in lost boys was the flag
Plus the fact that there's race and gender flips abound in the "Lost Boys", while Hook's pirates are all still white men.
@@jacksimpson8529 yeah they had to have known they would get roasted it if the girls wasn’t there it might’ve been fine
@@jacksimpson8529 tbh I may have preferred some women in the pirates instead of lost girls even if it would still be strange because of the implication Peter did kidna- I mean, took girls in Neverland in the past, but they all decided to grow up, hence Peter's decision to abandon them.
Oh I forgot this is Disney remake, they don't talk about that part of Peter
DIsney is still desperately chasing the phantom "Modern Audience" they're sure will show up. Just have to get rid of those pesky longtime fans first. 🤦♂
When Tinkerbell attacked Captain Hook and said it was a mostly “peaceful protest”, it gave me shivers.
Alyssa Wapanatakh has watched all the Peter Pan movies.
Good for her!
Obviously doesn’t mention that she’s familiar with at least ‘Peter and Wendy’ by a Scottish author named Sir James Matthew Barrie. Probably no one working on this abomination has ever read the book much less come to grips with its complex themes.
EDIT: let me share this, one of my favourite quotes, which now has an added air of sadness,: “So come with me, where dreams are born, and time is never planned. Just think of happy things, and your heart will fly on wings, forever, in Never Never Land."
A book? Don't be crazy! You'll be expecting Tolkien "experts" to read The Lord of the Rings next.
I loved this story as a child. They are now trying to… Barrie the original. 😉
Hurry up and watch the Disparu take because Disney has been slapping copyright violations around to shut people up.
Heh
Someone should sue Disney for transformative changes. I know Disney is wealthier than god so it probably wouldn’t work but it’d be nice to see someone stand up to them.
@@xjood805
Get that trial televised like the Heard vs Depp one too. The cameras being there would hopefully stop some of the shithousery atleast.
@@xjood805 Disneys wealth is only going in one direction, and at speed if they keep churning out crap like this.
The reason why Wendy is a professional swordfighter better than any life long pirate, is because she duels her younger brother every night with wooden swords. so... yeah, which means her 10 year old nerd brother is a literal sword fighting prodigy, but Wendy is still a better sword fighter then him,
Wendy the teen girl also has enough armstrength to block 2 grown men's downwards sword momentum without even staggering🥴
@@sophrenia considering that they're pirates they're probably drunk all the time, because why not, and that makes them incompetent unlike the heroine Wendy who trained daily with her little brother.
@@MollyHJohns Drunk adults vs 14 year old noodle girl arms
Well... Disney always reimagined the original stories to fit his audience.
Problem is - unlike modern "reimaginators" he was a talented man with great artistic vision.
I wonder if the day will ever come when the modern audience actually likes a show made for the modern audience. Haven't seen it yet
Fat chance of that ever happening! Liking stuff is too cliché for today’s ever evasive -cool- blasé cats, but bitching endlessly about the haters on Twatter, now that’s where the money is to them.
"The Expanse" has all the diversity and representation and social commentary wokies love but still is well written and executed, people liked it so Amazon cancelled it too early.
@@csmedia5279 Its not that they can't create something good now days. Its that they are only concerned about putting politics into their shows. They don't care about the shows they make.
The trailer was grim beyond belief, though at the same time is exactly what we should expect from Disney.
If Disney wanted a TRUE reimagining of their films, they'd change the films' setting. Like what if Snow White took place in a future where the Dwarves were cybernetic. Actually alter the setting instead of simply race swapping a cast and calling it reimagined. Romeo & Juliette starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes is a reimagining. It takes the setting from several hundred years ago and moves it into the 1990's.
They aren't making movies for the audience that exists but for the one they are creating. And the acceptance of the product is used to measure the results of the programing!
Well said
Too bad it won't work
Bingo
Kids from every part of the world watch Peter Pan so yes, they are actually making movies for the audience that exists, a multiracial one. Sorry but the world doesn't revolve around you.
@@patrick7142 "Αλλά καθώς το θέμα εξελισσόταν, γεννήθηκε στην καρδιά του Μέλκορ η επιθυμία να συμπεριλάβει θέματα της δικής του φαντασίας, που δεν εναρμονίζονταν με το θέμα του Ιλούβαταρ· γιατί επιζήτησε μέσα από αυτά να αυξήσει τη δύναμη και τη δόξα του ρόλου που του είχε ανατεθεί." -Το Σιλμαρίλλον του J.R.R. Tolkien
Will they ever figure out that these "modern audiences" don't actually care about their product?
“Let the past die. Kill it if you have to.” -Wendy Darling probably
Besides, there is already a good live action version of Peter Pan. It came out in 2003. It took some liberties, but was overall pretty true to the book. And Tinkerbell actually looked like Tinkerbell.
There's the Hook movie 1991. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend you to watch it.
Amazing and Rebelious film
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 yes, "woke" before "woke" became a thing. The only light in that production was, not surprisingly... Dustin Hoffman.
@@Hiraghm and Robin Williams of course
the 2003 movie was amazing, i used to LOVE it as a kid! I would rewatch the dvd over and over again, i had a huge crush for Peter Pan in that movie lol
Why is a black Tinkerbell inherently bad but red-headed Julia Roberts playing a canonically blonde Tinkerbell is fine
Cried when Peter Pan tells Wendy, "You have not seen what I have seen"😭
The part where Peter Pan grabs Hook and says "I know it was you, Fredo...you broke my heart" was just so great.
I showed the trailer to my 9yr old daughter the other night and she stood up & shouted “Disney ruin everything! I hate them!”
Proud doesn’t describe how I felt in that moment .. hail to the fellowship
- that just sounds hard to believe, unless she was just parroting you. Why would a 9yr old girl have enough of a connection and understanding of the past iterations of peter pan to declare that disney has ruined it? This is like when feminists say how proud they are of their little daughter saying smash the patriarchy.
And then everyone clapped.
Amazing! Even a 9 year old child can see the bullshit!! Congrats, sir. You did a great job with your daughter, I'm an adult blk male and I hate all this woke, diversity shit! Tinkerbell isn't black, the little mermaid isn't black and she doesn't wear a hair weave underwater! When I watched the live action version of Disney's Beauty and the Beast (the animated verison was a longtime classic), I knew Disney was a woke path. It's only going to get worse, prepare yourself, friend.
You don't need to invent stuff in order to criticize Disney, liar.
Our queen
I like how you think they don't understand their IPs rather than understanding that this is deliberate throughout media and education. This is what they want, and they don't care about success...they seek only to tear down what came before.
That's why they're always "the first of "
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984
They say they are being more inclusive but they’re excluding their entire potential audience in the process. Oh, the irony.
"They're creatively bankrupt." You hit the nail right on the head!
Can we talk about not just Tinkerblack but also how it's Patel Pan now?
His bits in the trailer did not give me great confidence in his acting ability or charisma. However, getting Peter Pan himself right is bound to have been waaaaay down in Disney's todo list for this film.
Next sequel will probably only be titled as Wendy and the Found Girls, because they'll be kicking Peter Pan out the curb after this one.
Never trust a Patel
The real drama is Disney's descent into madness and long suicide.
Interestingly they never change the image of the bad guy .
I love the scene when Tinkerbell self-identifies as the balrog. All the feelings!
Disney taking the flamethrower to yet another classic.
One has to wonder, with Disneys status removed in Florida and ever diminishing returns, does no one there want to keep their job??
What do you think the answer is?
It's so brave and stunning to have a Romulan play Tinkerbell.
In next season of Star trek Discovery, she will magically appear and save everyone...lol
@@user-tq6hj8bh9y Don't give them ideas!
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Disney be like,
-Were the lost boys.
-You’re not boys…
-Are you assuming our gender?!?🥴🥴
The first question any time a sensitivity reader is interviewed should be "why don't you write your own story expressing these values?"
Friendly reminder to never give Disney another dollar.
Funnily enough, this has got to be one of the first of these Disney remakes that I have seen 0 advertising for. And given that it’s not slated for a theatrical release only cements the point that Disney is in the gutter.
If they want to leave Disney's past alone, why do they keep remaking old films?
Last time I tried to leave something, I didn't drag it with me.
“But where do you live mostly now?"
“With the lost boys."
“Who are they?"
“They are the children who fall out of their perambulators when the nurse is looking the other way. If they are not claimed in seven days they are sent far away to the Neverland to defray expanses. I'm captain."
“What fun it must be!"
“Yes," said cunning Peter, "but we are rather lonely. You see we have no female companionship."
“Are none of the others girls?"
“Oh no; girls, you know, are much too clever to fall out of their prams.”
“Oh no; girls, you know, are much too clever to fall out of their prams.”
Or far too cowardly. Females will never truly understand the male's romanticism for adventure and danger.
In retrospect, it kinda sounds like 'cunning Peter' is buttering Wendy up for second base...
Duck Fisney. Just … 🙄🤦🏽♂️
The part where Wendy fought with another Wendy outside a Wendy's and then she screamed; "So you think you're tough? There can only be one Wendy in this world!" it was so touching. It felt as if I was floating. Hits harder than a brick. Truly one of the Wendy moments of all time.
at this point, I'm almost shocked they didn't change 'lost boys' to 'lost thems'
Love your material. Keep up the good work! 👍
They went full fan-baiting. Never go full fan-baiting.
Wendy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude....
Can you imagine Peter Jackson trying to make LOTR now? I can't either.
No, don't drag the veteran director in these Wokies Hollywoke groupies. His TLOTR will probably be better if done today than back then, even, due to the latest tech.
Disney: "We're remaking it for modern audiences"
Modern audiences: "Yeah, we're just gonna wait for Dreamworks' next movie".
“All the Amazon’s are called Dave” had me fucking rolling
Dude, I have to tell you that ever since I found your channel that you are my new hero. I wish that I had the same for them to be able to express the exact same thoughts but you are spot-on. I am probably going to have to go and see the chiropractor because I busted a gut laughing and also I just have to sit back in amazement at how accurately you describe what should be to everybody who is not woke, obvious. "Modern audiences." Here is hoping that more people understand exactly the ugly nature of that descriptor and avoids this s*** like the plague.
If you want to go to the deep end of it, you can check out James Lindsey who's doing a deep dive on the matter. Preferably in order since it can be difficult to jump on the wagon he's been on for several years.
They legitimately watched Spy Kids and thought Wendy could take on those Adult-sized Pirates
I was awed when the crocodile opened its jaws and all of its teeth were pride colored.
The more things that go into the public domain, the better, then we may be able to get quality movies made from classic characters again.
Didn't work out well with that Winnie the Pooh horror movie
I think most people are scared to compete with the original Disney versions, and I believe you have to try to make it as different as possible because while the story is in public domain, the movies are Disney property. There are still many classic tales that deserves to be adapted, but it seems no animated studio is interested in classical fairy tails anymore.
Musicians back in the day learned all there is to know about their craft, their kind of music, the thoughts other people had put into it and only then they changed it.
When Disneys new Patel Pan fails hugely, Disney can take comfort in the fact that this was never about money in the first place it was always about "THE MESSAGE".
Ah "the message" which is not really doing any good nor yielding profits.
All it is doing is causing resentment and segregation, which will then lead to violence further down the line as society becomes unhinged.
There is no such thing as "the message" or "modern audience", it's all propaganda.
The essential story was Wendy being a prepubescent girl became the maternal figure for the boys, the live interest for Peter Pan and because they were only boys without any female reverence they treated her like a boy in the beginning. Until they accepted her as their surrogate mother and or lover. This made all of them realize that they had to grow up and fir Wendy to come to terms with leaving her childhood behind to become a woman. Putting in Lost Girls completely undermines the plot and storyline. A bunch of greedy corporate shells taking an original coming of age story and despite their education not understanding that if you take that basic premise away it doesn't work anymore. Fire these people a.s.a.p.
I've watched 3 versions of Peter Pan, the cartoon when I was a kid was 100% disney magic, and the one with Robin Williams, and Juliia Roberts as Tinkerbell is still my favorite to this day, the sheer expression of imagination in the "no food" feast scene is just pure perfection. Even the one with Hugh Jackman singing Smells like Teen Spirit has amazing scenes and kickass music.
So do they really need to retell the tale just for diversity sake? Or do they have something to offer that all the other 3 movies made lovingly unforgettable to us?
It's a CORRUPT Disney cash grab with WOKE Virtue Signal race/gender swapping so they can blame the AUDIENCE for being some kind of -IST when nobody goes to see it! LOL
@@veeclash4157 So just like everything else they've done over the last 5 years or so?