Feeding Bees for Early Spring Buildup
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2021
- How we feed our bees in winter to stimulate brood rearing and build colonies up early.
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Oh that background sound of your guy starting the smoker is a refreshing sound.
I agree, the patties MAINTAIN the brood.
Old school jars, I have not seen those used here for years, nice
Ha ha ha, I see I’m not the only one who stands and talks while the workers work LOL
Great video, a taste of spring work
Keep up the good work
I thought this January weather might make you jealous.
I just looked at your weather forecast for Miami, Manitoba. I suppose you're used to it but you have my sympathies.
Got my box stove fired up, I love it
The bees are nice and tight and quiet
In spring wen come twoo more polen you can gain more brood if you youze polen trap for 1 weeck reduce frem with polen in order twoo lay more but!!!!!wen massive emerging bee too ad additional freame will and make Hany ,or swarms
If there is a patty in the hive that is excess to what is needed for the brood will the bees strip it and store it in cells?
Not many things make me happier than opening a hive on a warm winter day and seeing a beautiful cluster of happy and healthy bees.
Nothing gives me hope more than Bob's videos. Thanks for another lesson on my journey to becoming a beekkeeper
I should have included the word "successful" in front of beekeeper lol
Hi Bob, you started well. Romanian proverb: "He who wakes up in the morning, goes far".
In Belarus we say early bird already picks in her teeth, while late just looking for food .
Well, in California we say "night owl don't have to compete for
worm with early bird, Dude!"
Immediate 'thumbs up' for this video! Much respect for ANY commercial level keeper who is willing to stand in front of a camera and elaborate about what they do. The various choices and approaches to management between hobby level, sideliner, and commercial level is incredible. Thanks to Bob & his team for producing these insightful videos. I hope more follow your lead and do the same. Wishing you and your bees best of success ✌️🐝🐝🐝 Southwest Florida, USA
Thanks Tim.
Bob thank you for all you do and your valuable lessons! God bless you brother!
Wow, so many good tips. These videos are turning me into a top notch beekeeper. Thank you Bob!
God bless you and your work with bees. Greetings from Serbia
Great video. Love getting new ideas from experienced Beekeepers.
Thanks Bob. Excellent explanations as always. Bees looking good for you.
Thank you for sharing this valuable info highly appreciated. We are still in deep snow here in Canada. My season starts in mid April
So thankful for another video from you! Love watching and hearing so much beneficial information. I truly hope you are rewarded for your efforts.
Than you.
I live in NE Alabama and have been following your bee keeping techniques. Added pollen patties and syrup last week. Hives are strong and bees shiney healthy looking. Mite treatments by alcohol wash testing. Thank you Very Much!
Bob, it as great to meet you in Lebanon and listening to you speak. I want to thank you for this video because you’re doing exactly what I’ve been thinking about doing to my hives. I did it last year in mid to late January and on March 14th, I was making splits. It’s been colder here in central AL this year so I’ve been hesitant to remove my top deeps. I will feel comfortable to do it now on a warm day. I normally lay my pollen patties out in the sun for a few hours before putting them in so you made me much more confident in the way I’ve done things in the past. Thanks for all the information that you pass along to folks like me!
Hi Don. It was a pleasure meeting you too. Thanks.
Thanks Bob. I am in about the same location weather wise as you. I have often wondered how the commercial folks did their feeding for build up. General literature is of little help as it is too... general. I appreciate your willingness to share the small stuff and attention to detail. You are helping me to become a better bee keeper.
14:12 The amount of combs in colonies during august and september, together with abundance of stored pollen and honey is the best stimulus for rearing greater numbers of winter bees. In that way, they are instinctively rushing for earlier spring development and swarming, whitch is their upper hand in preparing for winter after that swarming. Amount of combs in late summer are paramount for numerous colony in spring, more than sucrose syrup feeding, which is, on the other hand, essential for winter survival if you are commercial beekeeper. Thank you, sir, for unselfish sharing of your knowledge and experience!
Great video Bob, full of information... Many thanks
I'm glad to see that you are using soft patties, this is my first time that I'm using it😁
They work well.
Another great video. Thanks Bob!!
Great to see you at the Tennessee Conference earlier this month and really good to see that bee count this early., Thanks for the smooth, info packed video. Nashville
Thanks.
I have to chuckle at some of the comments...seeing is believing...and what you do is what separates the pros from the all the rest...but they're more than willing to point out your poor practices..;)))! I can only hope for such full hives in January here in KY...unreal!
Thanks Bob.
I have bees taking 2:1 right now here in pa, been feeding a few very light colonies for a few weeks now, once I put the jar on, using half gallon jars the cluster seemed to move right below the jar. Had days in the low 20s and it's been 30s until this week. Going to start putting pollen patties on this week.
Always love watching and learning from You and Ian. I myself tho am more like IAN being i am in the upper Mid West bitter cold. Good luck and stay safe
Hey Bob, I stopped by Friday and Saturday to pickup some supplies while I was in the area. Ladies in the shop said you were out and about. Keep the videos coming. Good info
Sorry I missed you. Thanks
It amazes me that I’m looking at another5 or 6 weeks before I can get into any colonies and your already feeding. Must be nice. Maybe I’ll come down and work for you until I can get into mine. Lol thanks again Bob
The trade off is longer, hot summers.
@@bobbinnie9872 you got me there, I can’t stand the heat.
Thanks Bob for your super great vids. I am a beekeeper in Providence NC. Working on using your idea of double scree boards to start splits this year 2021. Honey flow in my area not very good last year due lots rain bleaching out flowers in trees. Hope for better start this year. Thank again Good
Luck to you and your crew in 2021.
Thanks and good luck this year.
It's my belief they need light nectar with patties to really stimulate them(I think you know this) ,I say this because if not it takes weeks of patties to see difference really, but soon as flow hits stagnant colonies push the nitrous button.. that tells me that nectar stimulates them..if you scratch a honey frame and they move it and simulate a flow ,they brood because it stimulates them.. Good looking Clusters Bob!!
15:12 that are some beautiful colonies, Bob!
Those bees are soooooo docile, even our mated queens give us attitude.
Patrick I have one that loves me so much they feel the need to kiss me every time I reach for a frame. Lol I love that hive, Its the best hive in the yard. Im gonna breed from it but I'm hoping since the queen didn't come from me that the drones in the area will calm them down but still work as well as the mother hive but you just never know.
@@Warren76317 Yeah, my meanest ones are my best ones. Where you at?
@@PatrickPease hagerstown Md
@@Warren76317 Oh! My aunt lives up there, no wonder you got mean bees
@@PatrickPease lol
hi Bob families are strong. The weather is good. good luck
Amazing video! We still up here just around -10 C /14F 🇨🇦 .
It is happy to open bees hive seeing heathy bees🐝🐝
In our country, many beekeepers do not agree with winter feeding. I personally will soon be giving pollen cakes of my own making. I consider this a good incentive as long as the bee does not have a constant input from nature. Greetings from Croatia!
If you are in Adriatic area, you should not need any pollen feeding, but continental Croatia cold have some benefits from early pollen feed.
Thanks for sharing this valuable information 👍
Bob you are shifting into rock star status! Your video crept onto the commercial beekeepers FB page and them boys didn’t tear you apart, but rather endorsed,
💥💥That never happens💥💥
Rock on my friend , rock on 🤘
OK, I'm going to show my back side here. I don't do Facebook, perhaps I should? Thanks for the news.
No, don’t start FB, it’s a waste of time lol
Thanks for sharing, great information!
5:35 You bees are so calm! If I did that to my bees at this time of the years, I think the entire colony would jump to my face to try to sting me, including the queen I guess! I open only end of Febuary and early March and only if I have to. The frames, I never pull them out at this time of the year
One of my hives is bringing in pollen on warm days. Grnville NC
Another great video. Thank you!!
Great work love the videos
I'm a believe of Double deeps for the same reason, they have more bees. That's what I want because in the spring I should be able to get at least 2 health splits and maybe 3. A real good queen should give me at least 12 frames of brood by April 1 to the 15th. I can do 3 frame nucs to expand my yard. I'm just hoping I can get the drone made and queens mated mid April in Maryland. If not May will work. lol I'm still just playin and learning. Good luck this year.
Was hoping for a new video 👏🐝👏🐝👏
Those are some healthy looking clusters. In MN, I am months away before even thinking of opening my hives.
Do you wrap your colonies?
@@bobbinnie9872 Yes, I do. On some of them, I use the black wax cardboard and on others, I use a foam wrap. I only have 6-10 hives so I don't have enough data to state which one is better. The foam wrap is easier to put on. I do enjoy your videos and perspectives.
Gta love how how he slams the first three covers down to clear the bees, :(...Bob moved in quickly with the smoker
Bob, you are so smooth when you mark that queen. You've done it so many times that you don't even have to think about what you're doing! You could do a video called "Quickest way to mark a queen." I have to mark mine in a bee veil so they don't escape!
We just had first flights in NE Ohio yesterday, temps broke 50. Jealous of how soon your season starts.
I'm from Indonesia thanks for the video
Thanks for video.
Hello, sir! In the 10th minute we see you marking a queen with your bare hands. Could you show us (maybe in another movie) this queen marking technique in more detail? I'd especially like to see how you catch and hold the queen. Best regards!
Ha Great to see you. Thanks for the video u are great.
unfortunately lost all 6 of my hives over the winter to an increase in veroa mites that i failed to eradicate. will try again in the spring.
Great video and information 👍 feeding my bees on good warm days to keep them going.
Also, I found some left over patties in my pickup, that isn't driven much, from last fall. Will they still be good? I'm in Otto, NC.
Thanks for sharing!
You have some really strong hives when I see that on my hives I say u are going to give me some honey this year that is real pretty,
My bees are bringing in yellow and red pollen here in Texas. We think it is elm but not sure about the red.
Another great video Bob! Also really enjoyed your knowledge shared at the Bee seminar earlier this month. My question is, when should we put our swarm traps out if we live in the West Georgia area?
Colonies usually start thinking about swarming around the fruit bloom time.
Is there a reason why you don't use canvas inter covers ?
Great videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Have you ever used the cardboard Nuc boxes that brushy mountain had??? What box do you prefer to use when selling nucs???
We use Jester plastic nuc boxes. They are more expensive than the cardboard boxes but hold up better. I didn't ever try the ones Brushy Mountain sold.
Thanks Bob for making these videos! I’m in Denver and enjoy learning from your work. Question: why don’t you over winter double nucs above your deeps rather than single nucs? It seems if you built double screen boards with holes to each side of center you could support two small nucs rather than one, with a separating board down the middle of the deep.
Many beekeepers do what your describing with great results. It works well on individual stands but not as good on pallets. We like using single chamber boxes to allow the bees to expand beyond four or five frames. When the timing is right we like to simply pick up the box and put it on another stand or pallet. It's just a personal preference.
At 11:20 you're putting on the top queen rearing nuc. Where did you place the entrance for the top hive? It looks as thought you placed it towards the back and against the wall of the other hive. Can you tell me where the entrances are on the top hives?
We're getting snow tomorrow night along with temps in the teens.
We've got about six weeks (end of February) before doing this. If it's a warm February I'll get a little pollen on the hives.
Must be great being able to work with the hives.
Yes, it's somewhat hidden in the shadow.
Nice job bro
Thank you.
Great video! One question though, for the colder climates, could the pollen supplement be used with candy/sugar patties instead of sugar syrup?
To be honest I don't have any experience with candy boards or sugar patties. My guess is they lack the stimulation aspect we would be looking for. There is a partially inverted sugar called "Drivert", made by C&H Sugar, that is stimulating to the bees in powder form. It's produced for making fondants and frostings in bakeries. It's expensive but works well. I used it in the early 80s and if it wasn't expensive I would be using it still.
We have two dead outs, what appears to be new Saskatraz queen fails. Mites taken care of but no winter bee build up. Plenty of resources, lots of honey and stored pollen (beebread?). Any thoughts or maybe you have a vid but if not, could you do a video on repopulating or reusing such a hive? I'm half tempted to drop a package in rather than a nuc.
Packages work great on drawn comb or you could restart it with a nuc and use the extra frames elsewhere. We usually use drawn comb from dead colonies for starting more nucs.
Your colonies have a lot more bees than mine. My girls are hauling pollen by the truckload these past few days. Baton Rouge
Pollen translates into bees.
Another nice video!! I have pollen that i collected in last spring. How i can give this pollen to my bees, to be better accepted? Can i put some pollen in the frames?
Some people actually do put in frames and place it next to the brood area. You could also make it into patties with sugar and honey or syrup.
It's about 5 weeks until the maple abloom here. Last year a late ice storm took out most of the maple bloom and there was a noticeabl setback n brood production. Horsing we don’t have a repeat this year. I look forward to the maple all winter because that’s when things start to spin up.what are your temperatures like in mid January?
Hi Stu. This year highs have generally been in the mid 30s f to mid 50s with most days in the 40s. Since this video was made most have been in the low to upper 40s. Hoping for a bit warmer soon. The bees in this video have been taking their patties well.
Hi Bob, great to meet you in person a few weeks ago in TN. You are a very gracious person and an incredible teacher! Thanks for these videos and taking time teach all of us! How cold are the low temps when you're feeding that syrup inside the hive? We've had several flying days in NE OK this month already. Some days with highs of 60s, but still some lows at nights in the 30s. Is it safe to feed syrup with frame feeders? I would love to get a jump on early splits this spring. If this would help do that, it might be worth it. Thanks for your feedback.
Hi Kelly. I think your temps are Ok. It sounds like you are at least as warm as us. Our lows have been in the low 30s and high 20s
It's not ideal but it will work with colonies of average strength or more. it doesn't work well with small colonies until it warms up some.
Nice video
We expand when the weather is stable. Because we often have recurrent cold weather. Winter bees are weaker. Therefore, we create fodder reserves in the fall. In the spring we insulate well and achieve the full area of brood filling. Thus, the bees do not wear out prematurely, feed reserves are saved, and the physiological health of the bee is born.
Gday mate were did ya get the plugs for your feed buckets at the moment using ceracell top feeders but now ive hit the 100 hive mark need to look at cost effective viability re feeding PS weve had a shocking wet summer in east coast New South Wales Australia im feeding at the moment bees have taken back there stores Regards Bee Boy Roy
Hi Roy. We talk a bit more about the plugs in our video "Feeding Bees Part 3" if your interested. ua-cam.com/video/zjUjzHDqUtA/v-deo.html.
Info for plug source, 2 inch tint plugs, www.penpoly.com/ or Blue Ridge Honey Co. 706 782 6722
Hi Mr Binnie. Great video. I have a question about the pollen patties. I have been having weather in the mid 70's Fahrenheit and I have been supplementing pollen patties since early January. I've noticed that the stronger colonies are not eating the patty, would you know any reasons why this would happen?
They may be bringing in natural pollen.
hi there and thanks for great content. 12:34 what solar powered electrical fence system are you using?
We use a "Parmak Magnum 12" fence charger.
good
So Bob what happens to the honey made from sucrose? When the store it what do you do with it? Going into 3rd year and I’m in California we’ve so far had warm winter my bees are bringing in natural pollen now and brooding well but I’m very curious what you do with feed they store? I’m running out of freezer space.
The upper deep that is full of feed will ether remain with the lower box and be a double deep colony or be split off to make another hive. I'm not sure which for this yard yet.
Thanks !!
Hi Bob, a quest on internal and bucket feeders. Do the forages fetch the syrup or do the house bees collect this syrup and take it into the comb
I have read that it is the house bees.
@@bobbinnie9872 interesting thanks Bob
Hi Bob did the entrance get put on backwards at 11.30 second box
When we're working with our 4 way pallets we have every other one pointing backwards in a position where the bees can come and go from the side. This makes for less traffic and confusion in the front. If we had every one facing backwards two of them would have the entrance in the middle of the pallet which would be a difficult position for the bees to get too.
Hey Bob....love your videos...thanks for all your advice. On pollen patties...i buy the mann lake ultra bee pollen patties.. They are pretty expensive ....have you ever tried to make your own would equal the Mann Lake Pollen patties?? recipe? thanks!!
I have not. The bulk soft patty also works well and is less expensive. I agree they're expensive, probably more than they should be.
@@bobbinnie9872 oh...ok...i didnt know about the bulk Mann Lake Ultra b...prob cheaper than the premade patties...ill check it out ---thanks Bob!
nice video my friend
I was wondering about the mix. I prefer to mix up about 40 pounds in late winter but I collect about 10lbs of pollen every year of fresh pollen and freeze it and add it to the Mann Lake dry mix at about 10%. It seems to work. We have 5 gallon vacuum stoppage containers that can be resealed with vacuum each opening and we store them in our root cellar at about 42F year round. No fermenting and no mold ever. I always find I have a few weeks after Christmas of slow time to do my woodworking, patty mixing and sheep vaccine catchup time…you know…the slow time for a farmer! We started with 2 hives and doubled every year. Eventually we will sell the sheep operation and equipment and go to bees entirely.
In reference to one of your other comments, parts of Tennessee have good locations for bees. I know of several people doing well there.
Anytime you can mix in quality pollen with your supplement the bees do better with it.
Good video bob.
I don't use pollen substance. Majority of my bees are in South Florida pretty well much pollen comes in all year there.
You know it's all about location location location. My bees Caucasian.mix with Italian
You are right it is a about location.
As I look at your hives you have a queen right hive in the bottom box and then a 3/4 shim and then your double screen bottom board for your nuc on top. So what month did you introduce your mated queen in the top box? and I guess you bought your mated queens out of Florida being it is so early in the year. I live near Baltimore, Maryland it is still to cold here to do anything in the hives. The earliest I can put in pollen patties in the hives is about the second week in February.
The nucs on top were left over queen mating nucs from the fall and had queens that were mated in September. These nucs were installed in deep boxes, with double screen boards, over already established lower hives in November.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks Bob, You just gave me a great management idea that I can use. Now I can do the same thing in my yard with those late mated queens that are just not built up strong enough to get through the winter. looks like I will be building double screen bottom boards and shims.
11:24 curious to know why you placed the entrance towards the back?
We do this when possible to reduce drifting. On our four way pallets it puts a double screen board entrance on all sides of the pallet. Overkill maybe but why not.
The plugs in the bucket feeders... where do they come from?
"Feeding Bees Part 3" has info for these in the video description. ua-cam.com/video/zjUjzHDqUtA/v-deo.html
Ha 1 question I live in virginia, its still pretty cold here 28 now 40s days
the syrup in the videos I have watched they said no syrup when the temp are below 45 there where u live with the bucket does it lose suction is it ok to give bees syrup I have internal frame feeders Thanks have a wonderful day
Syrup in winter is questionable but we do it when temps rise above 50f.
Greetings from southern Chester County, southeastern PA - hardiness zone 6 I have seaweed Pattie’s in my freezer and feeding using mountain camp.
Is there benefit in adding Pattie’s in January or would they simply attract small hive beetles? Your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
If your colonies are healthy and well populated I would wait a while before giving patties.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you, sir.
Hi Bob, couple questions for your top cover design. 1. What prevents rain from getting into the hive through the top opening (where the buckets goes). 2. What provides ventilation for the hive in the winter? I noticed you don’t have any sort of holes anywhere to provide venting. I really like your videos, and am learning quite a bit.
Hi Timothy. We rely on the canning jar ring shown in this video to provide an edge or lip that keeps the little bit of rain water that seeps under the bucket from running in. When not feeding we install a solid, one piece, 70G mason jar size lid as a plug.
@@bobbinnie9872 Gotcha, thank you for the reply!
Ha Again as I watch your videos I have questions pop up in my head they do not pop up all at the same time that why so many post in your syrup do you put any oils in it thanks I think that my
last question .. Thanks for every thing Have a great day God Bless you and your wonderful family Keep the videos coming They are great
We put a half dose of Mann Lake Pro Health.
I guess you can use that Mann lake bulk without wax paper huh? It doesn’t melt down between the frames when the bees warm it up?
I've used it before and had good luck with it. It stays put.
Hi Bob
Greetings from Lebanon 🇱🇧 a small country in the Middle East
I collect bee pollen in spring and put in freezer. When I want to use it I mix 4 parts freezed pollen with 1 part sucrose and keep it for about 10 days in room temperature then I put little honey to make patties. And sounds good for the bees.
What's your opinion about this method?
Excellent!
Hey Bob. Why don't you use pollen traps to collect excess pollen at the time of golden rods pollen flow, store it and use it when its deficient, say January? Is that because you get a decent quality off the shelf and you save time and effort? In my country pollen is not available that easily off the shelf, so I guess its suitable here for me in India to store excess pollen and use it when ever needed!
We are lucky that pollen always comes in the spring when we need it.
Being from the Oregon area what are your thoughts on feeding pollen and syrup this time of year? I am in Oregon and would like to start ramping my bees up. While we are getting day time temps in the mid 50’s and low 60’s we are getting a lot of rain so I am a little hesitant to add moisture inside (using frame feeders) the colonies. We are getting periodic nice days so they are able to get out.
Thanks
Although not ideal you should get away with mid 50's to low 60's for inside feeding as long as the colonies aren't too small. Try a few first and see.
What temperature do you believe is okay to get into your hive during winter.
Best above 50f but occasionally we have to go down into 40s and it works if your careful and fast.
Did you mean to say that the colonies coming out of the mountains in Georgia gained temperature and that's why they started brood rearing or was it as you said that they gained daylight?
In this instance I believe it was because they gained daylight. If I remember correctly there wasn't a big temperature difference at that time.
Intetesting ,never heard or read about the daylight theory before ,something to think about . Out of interest how many hives totally do you have ?
Hi Peter. We had 2000 last season. I haven't decided yet where we'll be this season but I expect it to be less.
Great video. Thanks! Where can I get those plugs you used in the buckets?
I talk more about these plugs and have info on where to get them in the video description of "Feeding Bees Part 3" ua-cam.com/video/zjUjzHDqUtA/v-deo.html
Thanks for the reply.
Hey everyone I’m writing from Albania
My bees here is not to much colonies
2 /4 Framework if someone can help me what I can do ?
Sir,
Greetings from Anoop ..
Sir, one doubt...please make it clear ...
As literature says virgin queen fly solo in the air during mating flight ....and mate with several drones..and back her hive solo..
??? DOES SCOUT BEES ESCORT VIRGIN QUEEN IN THE MID AIR DURING MATING/ NUPTICAL FLIGHT ?
Thanks..
I have never heard or read that they do.
How do you keep the sugar water from freezing in cold weather?
In our temps I've never had a problem because the sugar content keeps it from freezing. You're question made me curious so I looked it up. 1 to 1 freezes at 22f and 2 to 1 freezes at 12.5f so I guess our 1.5 to 1 would be in between these two. I found the info at cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/82732/at-what-temperature-does-simple-syrup-freeze#