THE BEST Season 4 Abbasid Build Order

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @DaLoler1
    @DaLoler1 Рік тому +17

    Text version (F- food, W-wood, G-gold, S-stone. R-Rally vills )
    4 FR (berries) 2 of them will be building mill
    1 W
    1 Builds house
    Keep ralying on berries untill you have 7 then rally to gold till 4
    7 F
    1 W
    4 G
    Wood villager builds house of wisdom with help from the next villager (in que) then return to wood.
    Send 1 more villager to gold.
    Age up.
    During age up
    4 F
    5 WR the extra 3 villagers are from food
    5 G
    Once you have 7 on wood rally to stone
    Get your upgrades in this time then move gold vills to stone up to 9
    4 FR
    7 W
    0 G
    9 S
    Once you have the stone build TC with stone vills
    After this things get civ specific but mainly you should make some army before you start rallying to gold thou

  • @AnotherSchmoe
    @AnotherSchmoe Рік тому +4

    Rally 2 to berries
    5 move to berries (2 build Mill, 1 builds House)
    1 move to woodline (build Lumber Camp)
    Rally 4 to gold (build Mine)
    7F 1W 4G
    Rally 1 to wood
    First wood vill builds House of Wisdom at 50W, gets help from 2nd wood vill
    Rally 1 to gold
    Spam Q on House of Wisdom - age up with Economic Wing
    Move 3 from berries to wood
    4F 5W 5G
    Rally 2 to wood
    Research Wheelbarrow
    Rally 4 to stone (build Mine)
    Move 5 from gold to stone when 3515 remaining on gold deposit
    Research Fresh Foodstuffs
    Research Fertile Crescent
    4F 7W 9S
    Rally to berries
    When 938 remaining on stone deposit move 9 from stone to build 2nd TC
    (2nd TC goes near auxillary berries or hunt, whichever is closer to stone)
    1st TC rally to wood, 2nd TC rally to berries
    Build Barracks
    Research Hardened Spearmen
    Connect 2nd TC to House of Wisdom network
    Build Stables
    Train Spearmen and Horsemen continuously
    Build more Houses for Golden Age
    Rally both TCs to gold around 20/30 structure mark
    Research further upgrades and play out rest of match

  • @greyraven9164
    @greyraven9164 Рік тому +52

    May Allah be on ur side to all my brethren playing the camel lovers in season 4.

    • @wingedhorus1462
      @wingedhorus1462 Рік тому +5

      Christ is King

    • @greyraven9164
      @greyraven9164 Рік тому +7

      @@wingedhorus1462 Sure brother, Christ is our holy prophet peace be upon him.

    • @TheRealDickNixon
      @TheRealDickNixon Рік тому +3

      I main Delhi, but practicing Abbasid as secondary. LETS GOOOOOOOO!

    • @Makofueled
      @Makofueled Рік тому

      Inshallah my dude

  • @MarZhillMagnus
    @MarZhillMagnus Рік тому +14

    Great video Drongo - very easy to follow your videos and the way you explain the build orders.

  • @MrAtaguas
    @MrAtaguas Рік тому +4

    I feel like with fertile crescent you can delay that wheelbarrow cause your lumber camps are cheaper and you can just update camps to lower walk time for vils. Only few other vils will benefit from wheelbarrow until like 6-7 minutes so you still get em early but maybe click on wheelbarrow last when getting all the feudal upgrades and rally to stone quicker (you move your gold vils to stone quicker but keep one on gold to eventually get the wheelbarrow). I think you can get a sub 5 minute TC if you build your TC of stone that way and this allows you to go for mutiple TCs. Also with fertile crescent you can get your golden age way quicker which is neat.

  • @okkomp
    @okkomp Рік тому +5

    I think its better to get early golden age over foodstuffs (FFS) right after fertile crescent then get FFS after 2nd tc has been placed. 10% extra resources gathered over approx 20 vils is worth +2 vils vs foodstuffs worth +0.5 vils (=+1.5 - 1).
    You should be at 7 buildings at 4:20 so will need to spend minimum of around 111 extra wood for 3 buildings for the golden age by around 5 min.
    Once you have 2tc up FFS is worth +2 vils (=2x1.5-1).

    • @roberthiggins8234
      @roberthiggins8234 Рік тому +1

      I think you might be right, I also made a comment that in some matchups 535 might be too late to start building your second TC without any military support. French knights, or English archers comes to mind. Skipping fresh food stuff, and possibly wheel barrow might make it safer if you are expecting early aggression

    • @okkomp
      @okkomp Рік тому

      Actually even better to go for golden age before feudal. Dronggas has the wood for it at 4:06 in the video and with some reprioirtising in the macro (gold to wood) should get it done even before wheelbarrow..

  • @roberthiggins8234
    @roberthiggins8234 Рік тому +7

    My only question is what aggression are you likely to see at 5:35? French knights? English Archers? If yes, then maybe missing freshfood stuff until after getting the second TC down might be a little safer... Though that might be situational, I don't actually know the timings. I guess im just a little concerned that if you don't have it complete when the knights arrive its almost game ending.
    Just looked up a season 3 build order for French, their first knight arrived at the enemy base at 5 min flat. Not sure how much time you would save by skipping freshfood stuff, or even wheel barrow but situationally it might be safer against certain civs/certain other openings.

  • @Don_Artie
    @Don_Artie Рік тому +10

    nice BO, however if you remember the time where pro players were spamming abbasid mirrors on lipany we had some people go down to the nitty gritty of the efficiency. it was definitly apparant that wheelbarrow doesnt do as much as you think and golden age does a lot. so probably a slightly different bo with early golden age instead might be even better. also interested in trying a BO where you go trade wing and drop 3 markets+ get trade tech on age up. 2 markets next to marketplace and 1 across the map. get those traders to spawn with food+ gold in them as soon as they come out, will also be good

  • @rubberbumm
    @rubberbumm Рік тому

    Thanks for these videos. This will be the first season I(ll ever dabble in playing the abbasid. I started of with English and learned ottoman last season. This season is gonna be all about delhi and Abbasid

  • @beyondAOE4
    @beyondAOE4 Рік тому +3

    Awesome build order break down, will have to be giving it a try! I am
    an English main now but want to main something in new Season 4, maybe the Abbasid

    • @Krispyy0ne
      @Krispyy0ne Рік тому +2

      Went from English main to Abbid in season 3 and it was glorious! Good luck

    • @beyondAOE4
      @beyondAOE4 Рік тому +1

      @@Krispyy0ne Thank you! Will give them a go!

  • @AskaRobzChaineGaming
    @AskaRobzChaineGaming Рік тому +1

    Just started watching your vids and glad you did this build because I have been maining Abassid. Thanks a lot!

  • @MiroslawHorbal
    @MiroslawHorbal Рік тому +1

    Why not utilize the stragglers instead of spending the wood on a lumber camp?
    1 villager goes to stragglers while all additional wood gatherers go for a lumber camp on the main treeline.
    That 1 villager should produce enough lumber to fund houses, eco buildings and house of wisdom. That extra lumber could be invested into a quicker TC, eco upgrades, or my personal favourite, to get a fast golden age for the flat eco bonus.

  • @quintonmicheau9199
    @quintonmicheau9199 Рік тому +3

    Personally I always go horses or spearmen to start either to harass or defend, but the rest is solid. If the plan is staying in feudal I would get some armor upgrades at the very least which means 2 or 3 vils on gold just after the 2nd tc is built. Cheers!

  • @aleftwinggamer3950
    @aleftwinggamer3950 Рік тому +2

    4:20 Abbasid age up? Guess I found my new main.

    • @wakko9fortyofficial144
      @wakko9fortyofficial144 Рік тому

      I hit 4:15 today but resources placed perfect and flawless macro and micro

  • @terence7009
    @terence7009 Рік тому +1

    I'm definitely going to try this out, though I feel like the barracks has to come down way earlier against french, and I am trying to figure out how to answer a man at arms rush. I suppose you outunit them but they can take forever to kill

    • @wakko9fortyofficial144
      @wakko9fortyofficial144 Рік тому

      Place towers on crucial resources and make some archers. Kite the Man at arms. Practice against ai

  • @Vanhah
    @Vanhah Рік тому +1

    Thanks for coming back. Dinner time wasn’t the same without your soothing tone. Food just wasn’t tasting the same. I may never escape the reigns of bronze league, but I’ll always watch a new upload and toss it a 👍.

  • @MesaGaming
    @MesaGaming Рік тому +3

    gonna try it! Just two questions:
    1. Is there too much excess wood at the start?
    2. I feel like this might struggle against HRE (my worst nightmare) , or any fast castle builds because by the time you push out they might already be close to a castle, of course scouting is key, but not sure how good this fares against other boom civs with strong mid game , gonna try it out like i said tho!
    Thx

    • @Gammeljonny
      @Gammeljonny Рік тому

      1. I'd say no, you can immediatly use all of that wood for early military buildings, houses (to get the golden age) or build army. You'll need it.
      2. I agree, it will always depend on match ups, the French were just an example. But on the bright side: FC with Abbasid got huge buffs, so going culture wing for second age will almost certainly be an option

  • @MrAtaguas
    @MrAtaguas Рік тому +1

    Anybody try Abbasid with fertile crescent on water and just spam 56 wood docks? I feel like you could never lose water that way if you spam docks and research emplacements on em. You could even afford to go 1 dock per 3 boats realistically lol so that you can garrison everything

  • @BjornIvarstead
    @BjornIvarstead Рік тому +1

    Very tight, but sounds insanely strong when mastered!
    Love these kind of content. Keep it up!

  • @Silverlance988
    @Silverlance988 Рік тому +2

    Wish we could see how this works on the ladder tbh... I usually get mauled by an early English push by 5th minute.

    • @Thehoneybadger90
      @Thehoneybadger90 Рік тому

      get an early tower or 2 (placed a little towards enemy not back in case of english archers)

  • @rodneyharris3470
    @rodneyharris3470 Рік тому

    Ya we saw you geek out about it when you still casted games lol love ya you beautiful bastard

  • @ElectTheChopStick
    @ElectTheChopStick Рік тому

    This is awesome! Thank you so much!! I would love a delhi one aswell :)

  • @6theseeker
    @6theseeker Рік тому

    Keep in mind that hunted animals brings in food at a faster rate than foraging bush.

  • @diggoran
    @diggoran Рік тому

    There's no point waiting for the golden age bonus to research techs in most cases, because most tech buildings aren't doing anything else, so there's no sacrifice in not getting the 15% faster research speeds. If it was 15% cheaper, then I would understand waiting.

  • @Krispyy0ne
    @Krispyy0ne Рік тому

    We missed you so drongo. And your custard games 😂

  • @DamnGoodTrading
    @DamnGoodTrading Рік тому

    I like this build order a lot tbh

  • @ContattodiSparta
    @ContattodiSparta Рік тому

    I was sure I was subscribed yet but no, so I've fixed that immediately! Great content, I do think Abbassid will stay with Economic -> Cultural wing order, they are great with these news!
    Great content again, keep it up! :D

  • @ragonhar
    @ragonhar Рік тому

    Good build, thanks for sharing, but in small maps against aggro, you cannot play in this way because you were arrased soon

  • @ortensfavor1t242
    @ortensfavor1t242 Рік тому

    ..i'm trying to get past intermediate but i can't, which one is the easiest to face if you're the abasids

  • @penguinfriend
    @penguinfriend Рік тому

    Thanks for nice video, will test this out

  • @JamesFischer_35
    @JamesFischer_35 Рік тому

    thanx alot aussie.
    and it would be great if you write the build order at the end of the video imo. take care!

  • @supernova4543
    @supernova4543 Рік тому

    I'll try it out much thanks man

  • @raptorhacker599
    @raptorhacker599 Рік тому

    awesome guide

  • @rayankawas2851
    @rayankawas2851 Рік тому

    hey guys, i cant access the pup server for some reason when i go into properties - beta. Is there something im missing or is it no longer accessible for everyone?

    • @ElectTheChopStick
      @ElectTheChopStick Рік тому

      Its no longer accessible but in two days the update drops

  • @franzmauermann4386
    @franzmauermann4386 Рік тому

    I don't understand the early lambercamp, the walk time on the strugler tree is not so bad and y have your age up 10s faster.

  • @CrazyMiso
    @CrazyMiso Рік тому

    How does this build order perform in comparrison with 2/2/2 build order?

    • @Krispyy0ne
      @Krispyy0ne Рік тому

      This build order focuses early tech aka wheelbarrow and is optimized for fertile crescent where as 2.2.2 is not...

    • @bradsapro
      @bradsapro Рік тому

      @@Krispyy0ne I thought the whole point of 2/2/2 is for early wheelbarrow?..

    • @maxmustermann3811
      @maxmustermann3811 Рік тому

      @@bradsapro yes, but 222 isnt getting fertile crescent

  • @nonono9681
    @nonono9681 Рік тому

    is this build stiilll doable?

  • @MechaStorm7
    @MechaStorm7 Рік тому +1

    the 420 build lessgo

  • @attidack
    @attidack Рік тому

    can you make an Abbasid guide the way you did Chinese

  • @amelre9353
    @amelre9353 Рік тому

    can someone help me on how to acces the new beta, when I go under betas tab there are none

    • @olegdragora2557
      @olegdragora2557 Рік тому +1

      The beta is over.
      Everyone is waiting for the next season on February 16.

  • @ginosajii
    @ginosajii Рік тому

    love the guide, thanks for sharing.

  • @Nverzi
    @Nverzi Рік тому

    Can we get a french build order??

  • @teemo2029
    @teemo2029 Рік тому

    Abbasid looks very scary now...
    Forbidden knowledge you're sharing here!

  • @MarkusHauthaler
    @MarkusHauthaler Рік тому

    thats the thing i want to see. I want the pup now and not waiting till new patch is there. didnt played a game on normal patch since PUP was out. seemed like time waste

    • @sigitang9398
      @sigitang9398 Рік тому +1

      At first i was like you but let's be real, your skills transfer from patch to patch. By not playing you are just loosing habits

  • @Xsplitme
    @Xsplitme Рік тому

    😍

  • @foxplot7287
    @foxplot7287 Рік тому

    luv me camels

  • @PBunyanOx
    @PBunyanOx Рік тому

    420😉

  • @mateuszpk5511
    @mateuszpk5511 Рік тому

    a bit over engineered. just start the game. send 5 on a tree and one on the mill/mine

  • @chrisnewtownnsw
    @chrisnewtownnsw Рік тому +4

    More and more I'm starting to believe build orders are rubbish. To pursue a build order is to ignore countering what the enemy is doing. What's the use in going for a rush build order if the enemy is turtling e.t.c. It's just a lame way to play this game. Better to start in a neutral position and then pivot into the counter based on what you scout.

    • @MechaStorm7
      @MechaStorm7 Рік тому +5

      Of course, what build orders do is to come with a plan. You start a game with a defined direction and then you adapt it to your opponent. Because trying to adapt before having your own strategy means you have too high of chances of fighting an uphill battle right at the 0 second mark.

    • @reecenaidu6020
      @reecenaidu6020 Рік тому

      @@MechaStorm7 Exactly. You need to pursue something they should worry about, over and above the countermeasures you have to implement.

    • @maxmustermann3811
      @maxmustermann3811 Рік тому +1

      With abba you Go Always 2tc No Matter what your opponent does, and a build Order is extremely important to Reach feudal optimized and get techs as fast as possible

    • @chrisnewtownnsw
      @chrisnewtownnsw Рік тому

      @@reecenaidu6020 and what if they have the same mindset but their build order is a counter to yours? see how this philosophy is flawed?

    • @chrisnewtownnsw
      @chrisnewtownnsw Рік тому

      you could have the fastest most polished lb rush build order as English but you're digging your own grave if your opponents build order is a cav rush

  • @jaydoles88
    @jaydoles88 Рік тому +1

    Can we get a game please...not build orders or drama....just you talking about two players going head to head...

    • @maxmustermann3811
      @maxmustermann3811 Рік тому

      Build Orders are very important and Most viewers want to get better, what they need a bo for