STOP Using Lead Clips Like This | 5 WORST mistakes❗
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Here’s how to set up and fish with lead clips + stop them from becoming dangerous.
If set up properly, lead clips are intended to allow you to dump the lead on a take but if the lead clip isn’t set up exactly right, it can make a rig dangerous to the carp and I show you how it can happen.
I avoid lead clips as much as possible as I hate loosing leads and I fish with running rigs. Here are some of my favourites:
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00:00 Introduction
00:16 How to set the standard Korda lead clip
03:35 Problem no 1: The carp can easily eject your rig
04:14 Problem no 2: The lead can get jammed
05:16 Problem no 3: Lead clips and PVA bags
08:14 Problem no 4: The swivel is not fully engaged in the lead clip
11:22 Problem no 5: Crushing the swivel
13:37 Lead clips with holding pins
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Decent video, although your claim that using clips properly dumps the lead on the take is incorrect. They were designed to release the lead if it becomes snagged, and people have taken to setting up in a way that drops on the take (which I agree is bad, and if you "need" to drop the lead then you shouldn't be fishing there). I use leadclips for probably 99% of my angling and don't drop the lead on the take. It's all about learning the type that you use and getting them to function how you need. With the Korda ones ,push the tail rubber on around 2/3rds and that will drop easily when caught up, but not on the take.
Hi Ian, thanks for commenting and sharing your experience. I make videos to make anglers think a bit more about how they are fishing and whether or not there are improvements to be made. The carp I fish for have long since worked out how to use the weight of the lead to throw out the hook which makes lead clips a very poor choice for my venue and other venues of similar difficulty. We all experience fishing in a different way on different venues. Best of luck with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Correct..the advent of dropping on the take was well after the initial design stage of the clip. You ca make us think about what we do whilst fishing..but.. at.least be factually correct....the hybrid leadclup.set up.. is for dropping ...as is the peg system.in lead clips...that's to.lock the swivel in.place....
@@matthewcollinsangler with all due respect Matthew ,plenty of difficult carp are caught using leadclips. If the carp can throw your hook out then that's the place is be looking at. I'm guessing you are using barbless hooks? That's one of the reasons I won't use them.
@@ianpalmer6586 Hi Ian, thanks for responding. We all experience carp fishing differently and that’s what makes it such an interesting sport. Over the last 12 years as a fishery owner, I worked with many hundreds of anglers on week long sessions which gives me a fairly unique perspective. You won’t believe this but barbless is not the issue. We only made the switch at Beausoleil 2 years ago. 10 years of use of micro barbed and every angler that I met that tried lead clips which were set to retain the lead, they got done countless times. When I swapped them over to a very lightly fixed running rig they started catching. Coincidence? I really don’t think so. The lake bed here is very hard and as a consequence the carp mouths are very hard. Some of the carp are also fairly old. This makes getting a hook hold rather difficult. In my experience the only anglers that were successful here were those that dumped the lead on the take. This is both bad for their wallet and for my lake. I know multiple French venues that have banned lead clips due to anglers not understanding how they should be used. I also know other venues that experience this same phenomenon of the carp using the weight of the lead to throw the hook. I made this video because lead clips are seen as the defacto choice for many anglers. In my experience as fishery owner, they are regularly used in the wrong situation and in the wrong way and I get to see the consequence of this during drain downs and nettings which is something many anglers will never see. All the dangerous rigs I’ve ever found have included a lead clip. We’ve never had any fish damaged by any of my running rig variations. Use of a lead-clip might be absolutely justified for your own fishing. That’s for you to decide and I cannot possibly comment. I still use them from time to time when the situation dictates that it’s the right call. The aim of this video is to encourage anglers to think about how they go fishing rather than just use a lead clip because they believe it’s the right thing to do. Best regards, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I agree with a lot of what you say there Matt, but also take issue with the sort of "matter of fact" statements ie "must drop lead to be used correctly", and the comment about tricky fish learning to use clips against us. I've fished all manor of waters in my 30+ years carping, from dead easy to mega hard one fish a season kind of places and in the last 6 or 7 years you can count the number of fish I've lost on one hand, so I'm obviously doing something pretty well lol. 2 things have stuck out in those years which I've personally had too many problems with for me to be happy using and they are barbless hooks, and helicopter rigs. And yet many people that is their go to choice.so what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. I totally agree that a hell of a lot don't know how to use clips properly , and that the potential for a dangerous rig is there with them. Luckily I've only ever reeled in one what I would call death rig and that was actually a running lead setup which had then had a stopper bead placed behind the lead. Any bit of kit is only as safe as the person using it, be that leadclips, leadcore, Heli setups (and those god awful Heli(un)safes .
Anyway I'm enjoying watching your videos, and even though I don't necessarily agree with all of it, like I say it's all a matter of opinion,and what works for us is what's important (as long as the fish don't suffer for it of course) .
Keep up the vids Matt 👍
Another Brilliant Video Matthew, I am quite new to carp fishing and have been following you for a few months now, all your videos have been great. Very informative, very easy to understand and very impartial, you are not sponsored by any particular company so you just tell it as it is and give your genuine opinion and with your excellent knowledge and vast experience and the professional and easy way you come across and explain things to your audience I think you are one of the best out there. Also because you own a lake you have more understanding then most people on what really goes on. Not only regards carp feeding habits and where they actually feed but also you get to see first hand some of the awful rigs people use, so you talk with more experience and knowledge than many of the other so called experts!! Please keep up the good work and these Great videos coming. Thank you.
Hi Lawrence, well, what can I say? Wow, that’s amazing feedback mate, thank you. We love what we do but we love it even more when we read comments like these. I’m very excited to hear that you have begun your journey into carp fishing. It’s a wonderful sport but it’s really easy to get lost in the maze and I’m happy to be part of your journey. We’ve got plenty more videos on the way and if there’s a subject that you’d like me to cover or revisit then let me know. As always if you’ve got any questions just ask and I’ll do my best to help. The learning never stops in this game and I’m experimenting with a few new things this year myself. I wish you all the very best with your journey. Take care, Matt.
Fish with Carl or the monster carp give more information mate, Dean Macey, Matt Godfrey and Rooney are also a must watch
Another brilliant informative video, thanks Matt
Thanks for the feedback Andy, glad you've enjoyed it.
I don't think manufacturers help with the lead clip issue. They always seem to have those grip lines all the way along the clip, so the temptation is to shove the tail rubber on so all the lines are gripping. If they made them so the lines went half the way along, it might make it more obvious not to ram the tail rubber on all the way on. Great video once again.
Hi Chris, after I made this video, I found that some manufacturers actually do this. Nash for example, has a weed clip, a standard clip and a heavy duty clip. The weed clip has no serration except one small one at the bottom. This ensures that it does dump every time easily which is what you need in weed. I also tested the Nash standard clip and it’s basically impossible to over-jam it. Even with the tail rubber pushed fully on, with a few good shakes and a 3oz lead it’s off and away. I noticed that the tail rubbers are much softer than other manufacturers I’ve seen so it’s quite difficult to use them incorrectly. My hope is that all the big names work on this because it’s a solvable problem. Cheers, Matt.
Really useful! Been doing it wrong for a while now. Going to try your method with the running lead next session.
Hi Jason, thanks for commenting. It’s a very common mistake mate so don’t feel bad about it. I’ve come up with a new running system where swivel leads can be used with tubing so don’t forget to subscribe and you’ll get a notification when that’s available. Let me know how you get on. Cheers, Matt.
thank you Matt, as i am new to carp fishing i brought the carp fishing rig box set with no instructions and being UK and them saying "no fixed leads" but not explaining what that means , you really have helped me understand.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and glad you found the video helpful. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
70 years old and never too old to learn new tips. Great video. Thank you.
Great to hear that feedback, thank you.
Truly amazing vid mate that is such good information this needs sharing on every site possible 🔥
Hello mate, thanks for the awesome feedback! Feel free to share 😊
Very well presented thanks, interesting and informative video I have just ordered my first pack of line clips having been snapped of the other day so will take on board how to use safely.and use heavier line!.
Hi Tony, thanks for commenting. It's great that you're enjoying our work. I always fish with the heaviest line I can. 20lb Nash Bullet is my everyday choice nowadays. I test every knot I tie to very high loads (17lbs+) and that enables me to bank 100lbs + catfish let alone big carp. I don't get every knot right. I still bust a few way too easily but I bust them on the bank not on a fish. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Matthew, yet another excellent video. Clear, to the point and well presented. You got another follower !
Thanks very much indeed 👍
Hi Matt, another very good video. It confirmed what I already knew in the back of my mind. I bought the Korda lead clip because nearly everyone I knew was using them. I used them maybe once or twice but didn’t liked them from the start on. I don’t like rig tubing either. In your video you explained what can go wrong with it and that’s exactly why I don’t use it. I always used to use inline leads since they were available but a version with a hard plastic tube or soft tube with a large diameter already attached to the lead. Never used the ones with the small 0.75 mm diameter. I always believed in-line leads were the ones to hook a carp as quickly as possible. Only when the chod-rig hit the media I realized that a helicopter set-up can be very effective too. Till than I never used a heli set up. But not only was it different to what most people tended to use but the most important thing for me is the safety aspect. In case of a break- off the only thing the carp was left behind with is the hook-link. For the last decade this is what I used for 99% of my carp fishing and I don’t think I will ever go back to anything else. It’s a super save and versatile set-up. In the rare cases when I use an inline lead, it it semi- fixed so after a shake it wil come of the swivel. Not as save as a hel but much better than a lead- clip system imo..
Keep up the good work Matt💪👍.
Hi Louis, it’s really great to have such a detailed exchange of these technical elements with a like minded angler. For some reason I’ve hardly fished helicopter rigs but it’s something that I’ve forced myself to do more of as I also really like the safety aspect. TBH I don’t like rig tubing either lol. I much prefer to use leadless leaders like Durakord and nowadays with the Nash Cling-On which I find so easy to thread. You don’t even need to use a splicing needle with the 65lbs version. I still don’t understand why inline leads are sold with this plastic insert inside. It’s the first thing I remove lol. I used to be convinced that inlines caught me more carp but after a few years experimenting with pure running rigs and now helicopter rigs I no longer believe that to be true. Sure for solid PVA bag fishing they are invaluable of course. I still haven't mastered the chod rig and that’s something that needs to change as there’s definitely a place for it. I wish you all the best with your fishing and thank you very much for your kind words of support and encouragement. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks Matt well explained, Ive seen the swivel slip the clip myself when using cheap lead clip set ups
Hi Chris, thanks mate, glad you liked it. Yeah the cheaper the clip the worse the fit!
Thanks Matt, excellent advice as always.
Hi Mark, thanks mate, glad you liked it :)
Morning Matt
Be great to watch on of your videos with your take on when to fish slack,semi and tight plus when to use back leads.?.
@@markrobbins7043 Hi Mark, thanks as always for your input. Yes, this one's on our “to do” list for filming this year, back leads is a good idea too. Cheers, Matt.
Another excellent teach in that benefits all who watch, with your experience and knowledge. So improving our understanding and keeping the fish alive
Thank you very much for your feedback Michael, much appreciated 👍
great video as usual!
Thanks very much 😊
Brilliant video showing why we must fish safely for our fish I think a lot of people see a certain method being used by top anglers and jump on it with out any thought excellent watch Matt 👍🏻
Hi mate, thanks ever so much for your kind comments of support 😊 I’m glad that I struck a cord and got you thinking, that’s all I’m trying to do really. We’re all responsible for carp safety and as a fishery owner, I also get to see lots of things that shouldn’t happen. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Great idea with the pva on the clip! I shall be doing that from now on. Thanks.
Hi Alan, yeah useful stuff PVA tape. Just helps keep everything where you want it to be, especially when fishing at range or when using PVA mesh bags.
@@matthewcollinsangler do you think pva string would be a bit stronger and easier to tie?
@@alanlcrsuzuki PVA string will certainly be stronger. In terms of being easy to tie I’m not sure there’s much difference between the two. I tend to carry a spool of that PVA tape round with me all the time as it’s what I use for tying up PVA bags.
Well demonstrated matt
Thanks very much 👍
Thanks for the video im going on holiday and this is the only rig set up they allow, apprlicate it mate.
Hi mate, not sure which rig you're referring to... In this video, I talk about the risks of fishing with lead clips. I only use and recommend running leads.
Excellent learnt a lot from this!
Thanks very much, great to hear that 👍
I'm lucky I've had no mainline snap offs with fish on, as I now realise I've been using lead clip incorrectly and pushing rubber all the way up,
Cheers matt another clear, practical video 👍👍
Hi Scott, you know what, that’s great to hear mate. The world of carp fishing is very complicated and very confusing (it needn't be but it is). I always say that I’ve made every mistake imaginable and the learning continues. Glad you found it insightful. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler hi Matt, yes mate I always learn from your channel, I love your no frills approach and solid advice,
You teach on all aspects even a small thing like lead clips,,, I genuinely didn't know that I was doing it wrong, it was a light bulb moment when you explained it, cheers mate
Very informative video mate!
Thanks for the feedback mate. Glad you liked it 😊 Take care, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler amazing how many people I see use lead clips thinking they're designed solely for convinience! Maybe tackle companies should put instructions on the packets lol
@@LLCoolPeas The big carp brands want to sell product…. more product! There are instructions on the packet but let’s face it, who reads that lol?
instructions regarding using them safely? Can't say I've ever seen that on the ones I've used before but kudos to the companies that do! 😁
@@LLCoolPeas Korda have always had a simple instruction diagram and mention the click. 😊
Great video every carper should watch.ive come across some proper death rigs where I had problem getting lead off so Mr carp had no chance great educational vid big thumbs up 👍👍👍
Thanks very much for the support mate, much appreciated 😊
Well done showed me the pitfalls I have been using them wrong for to long time! Worked on snags though.;)
Thanks Phillip, glad you liked the video. It’s so easy to get it wrong with lead clips, I know I have! Cheers, Matt.
Great video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Great vid i've only really used these as a free running lead clip with a bead before the swivel as i personally don't like the idea of dumping a lead in the water and hope this is a safer option for the fish
Hi Tony, as I hope I was able to explain in the video that’s not a great idea but it’s something that many anglers do. It’s great that you want to keep the lead but it’s much safer to use a traditional running rig (without a lead clip). I’ll be doing a video on exactly how to create a super safe running rig setup very soon! Cheers, Matt.
Great stuff Matt! Some of the best organized videos I've seen! What do you use to manage/store your rigs? I'm having trouble finding something that looks like your box there...
Hi Zaq, thanks for commenting. Glad that you’re enjoying what we do here and there’s plenty more to come! So that box was given to me as a gift from a Beausoleil friend actually and it’s made by Fox but they don’t seem to make it anymore. It’s a shame because it’s a great box. I liked it so much I bought a second one! Sorry I can't be of more help on this one. Cheers, Matt.
I have a NGT rig wallet. Cheap and does the trick just as good. Though it would be nice to have a hard back one like Matt has.
Wow, I have to pause a minute and take a deep breath. So many wrongs I've been doing in using this kind of rigs. First time when I really understand how they work. Wow, you're a great teatcher! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
PS: Lovely cat! :-)
Hi Laurentiu, thanks so much for commenting. I’m so glad that you found the video useful. Don’t beat yourself up, these mistakes are very common because not many anglers have been shown how to use lead clips properly. Finally someone noticed our cat! Ah she’s very special and she likes a lot of attention! All the best with your fishing and I hope you enjoy the rest of the channel. Cheers, Matt.
great stuff , I was wondering could you do a video on running rigs
Thanks John. Yes, we'll be filming another simple running rig video this year 👍
In case you haven’t seen them, I’ve created a couple of trick running lead systems over the years. Check out these two links: ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html is a mono ‘D’ rig with a trick swivel lead based system. This is a true all rounder and can be fished at long range.
ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html is my original trick inline running lead system. It’s best suited to fishing in solid PVA bags or at short/medium range.
Cheers, Matt.
Personally I only use the fused in swivel lead clips from korda and I've actually seen korda anglers (TD)do exactly what you showed with him crushing the swivel and it never even crossed my mind that could happen!!!!! or I use the fox ones with a peg as the tail rubber on fox lead clips is much softer than kordas and comes off easier.Great video as ever,extremely well thought out and explained.
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback 😊 Good to hear feedback on other brands. I’ve never used the Korda fused ones myself but they are another way of getting round the problem. Not used the Fox ones either. There are loads out of different types out there but it’s not until you take a really close look at how they work that the pitfalls appear. My default approach is not to use any of them (most of the time 😉) Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt,
Hope you are both keeping well, great little video on the cons and cons of lead clips, got to say I very rarely use one these days as a convert to inline running leads I’m happy.
Not sure if you’ve tried them but the MCF dumper lead clip pretty well resolves most of the issues outlined in your video. So if I find myself in a situation where I need or want to use one the MCF dumper clip is my go to system.
Cheers
Tel
Hi Terry, nice to hear from you. We are well thank you and hope the same goes for you. Thanks for the feedback on the video. I’ve never actually used the MCF dumper clips myself but I know a fellow fishery owner that advocates dumping the lead on every take no matter what and that is his clip of choice. Best regards, Matt.
Hi Matt,
Pleased you are all OK, we’re all well and hoping to one day return with our grandchildren again, we’ve got 1 more now with little Livvy-June arriving early lockdown 2020.
I’m really not convinced of the need to drop the lead on every take, but as a fishery owner I guesstimated employ rules that you believe look after the best interests of your sock.
Speak soon.
Terry
@@terryseymour1663 Hi Terry, great news on the new addition to the family. I agree, I’m not a fan of lead clips or dumping leads either (I only cover this at the end of the video). I hardly use lead clips because I hate dropping leads. Most of the time it’s just not necessary. That’s why I use running leads for the vast majority of my carp fishing. If you haven't found my videos on running leads then check out: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html. This video’s pretty old now but this rig has caught an insane number of carp for myself and guests over the years. Last year I came up with an alternative that solves a few issues and is deadly effective: ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html. This is what I’ve been using at Beausoleil for a year now and I can’t seem to miss with it. I’ve also had some good success on a large public venue of 500+ acres where I need to blast singles towards the horizon at max range lol. Take care, chat soon, Matt.
Greetings to you, Your Honor is a wonderful and beautiful forum, and I am one of your followers, and I learned everything about fishing from a long time ago
I use leadcore or naked on a lead clip running free and never have a problem however as your said its the tubing that bunches up and stops it running
Nice job
Thanks mate 👍
Thanks Matthew, another great video. I guess many anglers will also have fallen into the trap of 'cost-based thinking'. Likely losing the lead on each retrieve will add up, but no-one wants fish deaths so it's a price worth paying.
Hi David, I’m glad that you liked the video. Yes, lead clips are seen as the go-to solution for every carp situation but some of these systems aren't very good, or very safe and misuse is commonplace. I use some form of running rig for most of my carp fishing, I've done several videos on them, I very rarely lose a lead and I catch a lot of carp. Cheers, Matt.
These are very very very instructional vids. Great stuff. As far as I can oversea it (Pun intendet. Greetings from Germany!) - you would only recommend them when losing the lead is the thing to do here?
Hello there, thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! Yes, I would only use a leadclip if I had to drop the lead on the take because of week or underwater hazards. The rest of the time, I use a running rig or occasionally a helicopter rig. Cheers, Matt.
Best you tuber yer is so throughly explained! Also not in it to sell you stuff you don’t need just cared about the fish!
One video I would love to see is the argument of back winding or clutch when playing a fish!! 😋
Hi David, thanks very much for the awesome feedback mate! It’s very much appreciated. That’s a great idea for a video. I’ve mentioned back winding in passing a few times but I could certainly apply myself to the topic in a more focused manner. We’ll add it to the list! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Yes I have noticed the comments on back winding, as I am using the clutch I feel I am not doing it correct when back winding for eg letting of to much line than needed so always revert back to clutch! Keep up the good work!
one day I will be able to
Make it to your lakes with my family!
Hi Matthew , your every video is spot on about safety and fish care which is most important thing ,learned a lot from you also and i just wanted to ask would crushing the swivel work with rig marole tubing beacuse i tried to thread the line through it and it slides without any resistance?
Hi mate, glad you enjoy the videos. I understand what you’re saying, yes, the Rig Marole has a larger bore, yes, it slides easily, yes it’s easy to thread … but only when it’s clean. As soon as you put that rig tubing in the lake, it will gum up with silt and grit and leaf debris, and be much harder to slide up the line. I wouldn’t crush the swivel in any circumstance. If you want to make a safe running rig with rig tubing, here’s a setup you can use: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html
Hope that helps,
Cheers, Matt
@@matthewcollinsangler Thank you for reply i really appreciate it. Tested it out today without hook, casted into the silt and it was stuck, once again you were right. Im usually using fox drop off running rig kit, perfectly safe, great indication and no lost fish so it will stay my choice for future fishing. Thank again and keep up the good work
The Fox edges clips also have a clip to fasten the swivel in place and I also cut the arm shorter as our wild waters you need the fish up top.
Most take rig n bait out by boat as waters here are massive…
Saw the so called semi running rig video and after seeing this I am questioning that icon’s ethics.
Keep up with the great tips and advice.
Here in RSA most guard their secrets and limit their advice. Not even allowed to mention the one venue name even though every one knows which body of water it is…
Thanks again
Hi Jozua, thanks very much for your comments and interesting to hear your experience. When I’m fishing large public lakes and rivers I do drop the lead if I have to as it’s the safest way to land them. For me carp fishing is fun and when you share fun the result is more fun. The UK carp scene used to be very secretive. Some preferred it that way but I like a more open approach. All the best with your adventures. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew.
I spoke to you a while back, ref washers on my spod reel, and you gave me advice on spooling up with braid which i have now done.
When it comes to attaching shock leader i am using Arma cord 50lb shock leader on 30.6lb main line, am i ok to use back to back grinner?
Many thanks.
Hi Ray, good to hear from you. TBH I’m not a big fan of the back to back grinner. The finished knot always looks fat and the tag ends stick out perpendicular to the mainline which isn't ideal. I’ve tried Armacord for various carp fishing tasks but it’s really expensive and not necessary in my opinion. For spodding, I’d just use something dirt cheap but very robust like Sunset Amnesia in 30lbs. For max distance I’d put on just 6m. At £4.99 for 100m, one spool will last for ages. I use it for my marker rod setup too.
Check out my video on how to setup a marker rod: ua-cam.com/video/4BGnu3FK6ks/v-deo.html. Spin through to 1:20 and you’ll see I use the Mahin knot. It works great and as a bonus you get a tapered knot that flies through the rings easily. Never tried the Mahin with Armacord. It should work, only one way to find out 😊 Don’t forget to wrap both lines round some bank sticks (use leather gloves) and give it a damn good pull. If it slips it’s no good 😉 Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Tbh I started cutting the clips half length about 15years ago... Means you can push rubber all the way on but glad you bought it up.. like the videos btw 👍
Hi David, thanks for commenting. I haven’t come across many anglers that know that trick so it’s nice to hear that it’s worked for you for so long. Glad you like the channel, more videos in the pipeline. Cheers, Matt.
Very good , have you done one on lead core ( folding over etc )and helicopter rigs .
Hi Paul, thanks for commenting and I’m glad that you liked the video. I haven't done a video on leadcore or leadless leader yet but it will be part of a video we’ve made on solid PVA bag fishing that’s coming out this year. I have done a simple mono helicopter rig but I didn't include a how-to in the splicing I’m afraid. Here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/K0A4GSH0z44/v-deo.html. Hope that helps you out mate. Cheers, Matt.
To be honest I've never really understood the idea of gazillions of leads stroon across lake beds up and down the country. For years now I use nothing but inline leads. Also I don't know about anyone else but I can't afford to lose 10/15 quids worth of leads every session either. I just stick to in-line using a very simple blow back rig but just making sure the rig materials are the best money can buy and brand new on every rig.
Hi mate, I hear you! I’ve been using inline leads for many years and dropping leads is not something that sits well with me on any level. I made this video because I wanted to help anglers think about how they are going about fishing. Any running lead system can be tweaked to achieve the right bolt and run or shock and run effect and you’ll find multiple examples on this channel. If you haven’t watched it check my original inline rig which is still super effective to this day: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html It’s very old so I apologise in advance for the quality! All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
i really love yr tutorials I'm watching u from south Africa 🌍 in Johannesburg
Thank you very much Daniel, great to hear!
Similar conclusions to me, used to use kickers, curve shank, lead clips ect but found running settup to be king and use nearly all the time. Hook choice esp stiff riggers. Currently testing thinking anglers 'C' clips on my running rigs, have you tried these? If yes what are your findings.
OK, cool, good to hear. I’m convinced the lead setup is the most important part of the rig and running rigs are the best choice. Never used C clips. If I want to create a rotten bottom, I just tie a couple of overhand knots in light mono, as I show in this video: ua-cam.com/video/pSjT2wPKtTw/v-deo.html. Cheers, Matt
Hi Matt great video but I wasted £10 in buying a lead clip kit + leads.. Now I am not going to bother using it given how precisely they need to be fitted. Given you lose the lead doesn't it make fishing a tad more expensive as well. Aged 71 I have just taken fishing up so I am learning as I go along and for now I will stick with float fishing as it seems a lot easier. When I brought my fishing gear I got chatting with the shop owner and he mentioned he likes fishing for Silver fish rather than Carp, he of cause had to explain what he meant and I thought to learn how to fish I should initially do that as there would be far less chance of me damaging the fish. Sadly finding access to lakes rivers down here in East Sussex [roved to be a nightmare so I am now joining my son in law when he goes Carp Fishing. For me its not about catching monster size fish but rather enjoying fish that with my limited knowledge I very little chance of harming. Pretty sure now I have subbed I will learn a lot from yourself Ted
Hello sir! Wow, I’ve never heard of anyone getting into fishing at that age but one of our favourite clients is in his 80s and he does wild river carping with us! I think it’s great and I love how you’ve explained your motivations and interests. Carp fishing can become expensive for sure but there are many ways to reduce the costs (if you know how!) If you want, try ledgering for carp (BTW no modern anglers use that term lol.) Then I suggest you watch this video which is a complete ”how-to” using minimal terminal tackle. It’s a simple running rig which means that you won’t lose the lead but the carp can’t use the weight of the lead against you either. It’s virtually impossible to set-up wrong so it’s certainly worth looking at. Here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html If you’d rather stick with float fishing for silvers then that sounds great. It’s where I started and I wish more carp anglers would start with silvers rather than jump straight into carp fishing as you can learn so much about fishing and, more importantly, have a lot of fun doing it! Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks Matt, this is just what I need. Fish were safe today as I blanked.Still enjoyed myself though .
Hi Matthew, what lead clip is safe for river fishing with 4.5 oz and heavier loads. I throw the rig at about 80-90 meters. Thanks for your answer.
Hi there, I don’t fish with lead clips on the river anymore (or anywhere if I can help it). I’ve done a video to explain why: ua-cam.com/video/NzmQgIiwFI0/v-deo.html.
On the river, I use a simple running rig with a plastic ring and a quick change clip so that changing lead sizes is easy. Here’s a photo from instagram:
instagram.com/p/CsoJFuBMfH7/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==. There will be a full video on this rig next year 😊
If you have to use a lead clip due to rocks or heavy weed then I would use the Nash heavy duty lead clip body & tail rubber system that’s been designed for use with heavier leads. I would set the tail rubber to dump the lead on the take. Tape the leg in place with PVA tape when casting at that range to avoid premature lead ejection. Best of luck, Matt.
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Thank you very much for the extra quick reply. Yes on the Elbe my lead often ends up among the stones. I will check out your next video in the link. Thanks again and good luck!
Wow... I've recently returned to fishing after a gap of 20 years... And I have been trying my hand at ledgering with these clips.. I never knew that they are supposed to eject the lead!! 😳 I just thought they was an easy system of attaching a lead to the line 🤦🏻♂️. I feel so ashamed, the instructions on the packets are not exactly clear on these things. I feel I need to learn a lot more, and will be staying away from lead fishing (and putting fish in danger) and will stick to my old faithful float fishing and method feeder, until I'm confident enough. Thank you very much for your very informative videos. I have subscribed and look forward to watching more. I will eventually get to a point to be confident enough to Carp fish. I do like some of your rigs and will be taking some of that for my method feeder. Have you done any videos on making your own bait glug/goo? I've been researching that quite a lot, and it's cheaper to make homemade... And just as effective.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting! Don’t feel bad, I see experienced anglers make these mistakes so I’m just glad that I could help. And you’re right, the information from the manufacturers is just poor.
I’ll be filming a new video shortly showing you how to use lead clips in a completely new and safe way so don’t bin them! It’s relatively easy to make your own glug. All you need to do to make a basic glug is to mix the bait flavour of your choice with some glycerin which is readily available from any chemist and is pretty cheap. I use a ratio of 1:1. It works for me.
Thanks for subscribing, there'll be a new video out this week-end! Always happy to help and answer questions.
All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Lots of leads on the lakebed though ! Surely a running inline weight system is best ?
@@cbing4036 Absolutely, I’ve been fishing with running rigs for over 15 years and all the videos on this channel are running rigs. This video is to alert anglers using lead clips all the time to the downsides and potential dangers of using them.
First, I just wanna say your videos are so great, i love that you explain everthing, and we can get an understanding why to do what we do. Second, you sayin the proper use of leadclip is :one bite = one lead in the lake?! Or I just didn't understand it?
Hi Krisztian, thank you very much for your feedback and support. It is very much appreciated. I want to help anglers like you understand “why”. With regards to lead clips, yes that is exactly what I am saying but I don’t like it. It’s expensive and is bad for the environment. This is why I do not use lead clips unless absolutely necessary. If the weed is very bad, or there are lots of snags on the bottom and you have to get the carp up to the top as quickly as possible, then I have and I will use a lead clip. In my opinion, it should not be the default choice and if set up wrongly, it can be dangerous for the carp. I use a variety of different types of running leads for most of my fishing. IMO they are safer and far better at catching carp. They also save me money and they are better for the environment. I would suggest two other of my videos: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html I hope this helps clarify my thoughts on this subject. Regards, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you for the response, i wull see the videos, and keep doing these great videos😉
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks for the new video:)
@@krisztianvarga332 Hi mate, thanks for the support. Glad that you liked it!
Hey Matt, I fish with the korda basix lead clip leaders without tubing and ive very slightly crushed the swivel on mine, ive checked and double checked that it takes a few shakes to let the lead clip run and checked that the lead clip can run all the way up my leader on to my main line without any problems. Ive only been angling a couple of months and from my experience, the lead clip stays clipped in to the swivel on the take and only slides down the mainline after a few head shakes. So far, i havnt had any mainline breakages but in the event of that happening, i thought that the lead clip would slide up the mainline to the breaking point and drop off. Do you have any recommendations as to how i can make the rig safer for the fish. Im not on the best budget and so the idea of dropping leads on every take doesnt seem like a great one for me personally
Hi mate, lead clips are not designed to be used in the way that you are using them. I totally understand why you are doing it as there are some high profile anglers that do this but as a fishery owner, I can tell you that it’s not a great idea (even though you are using the leaders and not tubing). All you need is a basic running rig. I’ve just filmed a full video on the setup I’ve been testing for two years but it’s not out …. yet! If you watch these videos you’ll get a good idea of what I’m doing. The secret to the rig's safety is a large plastic run rig that can be broken if necessary (as long as your knots and mainline are strong enough!) Here are some links to be going on with: ua-cam.com/video/NzmQgIiwFI0/v-deo.htmlsi=qH6bLaQ84zoEpkXu
ua-cam.com/video/Ch032Nsihcc/v-deo.htmlsi=lwqXQB6ZffFaLCTj
If you don’t want to buy a pack of rings then the other option is to use this:
ua-cam.com/video/pSjT2wPKtTw/v-deo.htmlsi=6X35pEdnmPekXwmY
It’s great that you are thinking about carp safety. I hope this channel continues to help you out. Cheers, Matt.
I'm new to carpfishing and get myself a lovely secondhand 2,25 Lbs rod and use it with 2 oz lead. The seller from the tackle shop sold me.korda lead clips without demonstrating it properly. I made the same mistake as showing in the video by pushing the rubber to firm on the lead clip. Now I've a question. If I assemble the rig properly as shown in the video and if I hook a carp and he shakes his head it will loose the lead. That's nice but it isn't good for the environment if all that lead what was shakin off by the carp is lying on the bottom. I'm a newby so I'm searching for a fish friendly solution but also with respect for the environment. Can you recommend me a system? Thanks in advance.
Hi Marco, thanks very much for your comment. Glad that you found the video useful and it’s great that you don’t want to drop the lead each time. There is a really easy solution to this problem and that is the running rig. As you’re just starting out I don’t want you to have to go back to the tackle shop to buyl more bits so I’m going to try and describe a way of using the components that you’ve bought but in a different, safer and environmentally friendly manner.
1. Thread some rig tubing onto your mainline
2. Thread the swivel of the lead you bought onto the mainline and up the tubing
3. Thread a tail rubber and then the leadclip onto the mainline
4. Tie on a size 8 swivel (I like size 8 ring swivels but any swivel will work) with a palomar knot (nice and strong)
5. Hold the leadclip and pull the swivel into the clip using the mainline until it clicks into place or insert the locking pin if one is available
6. Slide the tail rubber over the leg of the leadclip fully
7. Insert the rig tubing into the tail rubber.
8. Hold the mainline above the tubing and the lead should slide over the tubing and then come up against the tail rubber.
9. Lightly push the large swivel on the lead onto the tail rubber until it stops.
10. Connect a rig to the mainline swivel in the normal manner.
I can send you a picture if you like.
With this method when the carp picks up the rig, it will feel the resistance of the lead then shake its head. The lead slides away up the tubing and the carp will find it much harder to throw the hook. Whether you catch or blank or the carp is lost due a hook pull, the lead is not lost. The only time the lead is lost is if the mainline fails. Because of the way you’ve setup the leadclip, the lead on the swivel will run freely up the tubing and along the mainline until the break. Because the swivel has a very large diameter compared to that of the tubing and the mainline, this system is very safe. I will make a video of this system (that I’ve only recently begun testing) very soon. It’s very safe and I have caught some very big carp using it. If you like the way it works and you want to make the setup more streamlined then carefully cut the leg of the leadclip off as it’s no longer necessary. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler, thank you very much. This makes sence and in theory the carp will always loose the weight only when the main line breaks. I think I'm gonna fabricate some stones with a swivel as a substitute for lead in case the line breakes. It's very easy to make and cheap in comparison with lead. Oke maybe it's not so streamlined for casting long distances but I'm only fishing 30 or 40 metres out so I don't need massive weights. 2 oz is more then enough. I'm gonna try your method as soon as possible and will let you know my experience with the running rig.
@@marcohermans3207 Hi Marco, mainline failure should be a very rare occurrence as long as you are using the right materials for the right tasks. You mentioned that you are only fishing 30 - 40 yards out so I would use a nice robust mainline such as Big Game in 20lbs or Nash Bullet in 20lbs. I’d suggest a simple and strong knot such as the Palomar knot: ua-cam.com/video/vQNU7wGsbo8/v-deo.html
I do commend your efforts to avoid using lead but you’ll need a surprisingly large stone to make a weight of 2oz. To start with I’d stick with regular fishing leads that have a robust plastic coating. The coating will help prevent the water being exposed to the lead. Some specialist companies make alternatives to fishing leads but they are considerably more expensive. Using the setup I suggested, losing a lead should be a very rare occurrence. All the best, Matt.
Hi Matthew. What is your take on crimping the swivel on an inline lead?
Hi Phil, it’s not something that I do personally and it’s not something I would advocate but I know it’s done. My personal preference is to remove the plastic insert and to push either a tail rubber or an inline lead insert over the swivel. This way the lead slides off and over the tubing rather than having to rely on the tubing sliding up the line. Example of these two types of system are shown in these two videos: ua-cam.com/video/7VlmNHg0BD0/v-deo.html , ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html. Which one you use will depend on whether you are using rig tubing or a lead-free leader. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
This Lead Clip Running Rig has been featured in the latest Korda Master class...
Thanks for these extensive explanations. Not gonna use that kinda rig.
Hi Markus, thanks for commenting. Yes, I saw this video yesterday... I haven't seen this swivel crimping for a few years and I was hoping that they’d stopped doing it but much to my surprise (and horror) there they are at it again. It’s daft really as they make components for a running lead system so if they promoted a simple running rig using their bits it would be safer and still be good for business. I know that I’m fighting an uphill battle on this one but I’ve seen the results of this kind of rig. We’ve had carp and catfish towing round lost gear with lead welded on the lead clip, swivel separated from the lead clip (because it was crimped), and shit loads of crap and branches all tangled up. It took one of our carp years to recover from the mouth damage he suffered. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and for the feedback. Regards, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I gave a lead clip running rig at my last session last year a try. Fortunately, I didn’t loose a fish. Your video made me change my mind for the new season.
The Korda-thing... at the last few minutes of chapter one. I am gonna comment there too, that this tends to be death rig in most of the scenarios. It is not worth improving the last 10 % of you Edge of the carp, if you risk too much. Even, if the lakebed is clear and there is no weed...
I am gonna share this with my mates, so they either use real running rigs or real lead clips...
@@Markusgebvor Hi Markus, that’s great to hear mate. Feel free to share my video far and wide. The more people that it reaches, the safer our beloved carp will be. Here’s a shareable link: ua-cam.com/video/a6WI6Y1o_Xk/v-deo.html For more information on how to create a very safe running lead system check out my mono ‘D’ rig video. At 21:00 you’ll find an example of a mega effective, really simple, really safe, running rig that can be made from a swivel lead, a silicon tapered sleeve, some rig tube and a size 8 ring swivel. Here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html. I’ll be doing plenty more on this topic in the coming months. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler 👍 I’ll check your recommend video. Didn’t see this one yet.
I really think, that somewhat fixed rigs at the beginning, which change to running rig after first pick-up, are performing well at lakes with high angling pressure. Maybe, combing them with COG-leads will be a good alternative. I’ll check 😉.
@@Markusgebvor Hi Markus, I’ve been using trick rigs like this for well over 10 years and they’ve made a massive difference to me and for all of our guests at Beausoleil. If you haven't seen my original trick inline rig then check this video out as well. The video and the rig are quite old now but no less effective when used correctly: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html Best of luck, Matt.
Hi Matt. Could you use the lead system you used in the mono d rig video on tubing instead of on lead core/ lead free leader material?
Hi mate, yes absolutely, you can use the lead system of my mono d rig with tubing. However, you can’t use the beads like on the leadless leader version. If you use beads with tubing, it is dangerous. Use just rig tubing, a size 8 ring swivel, a swivel lead and a tail rubber. Spin forwards to 21:00 in the mono ‘D’ rig video ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html for a demonstration of that setup. Any question, just let me know. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you Matt. I’ve been using lead clips for a while now, using them running. Now I’ve watched this video I realise I’ve been using them completely wrong. I had them set not to drop the lead and squashed the swivel to make them running. Luckily I never snapped off. Thanks
@@banditfishing1558 I’ve done it myself, and I’ve certainly seen other anglers do it. It’s not until you see lost rigs that look like this that you realise the danger of the setup. Making mistakes is how we learn so it’s okay 😊 Thanks for sharing.
@@matthewcollinsangler yea. I haven’t been fishing too long, maybe 2 years. My current pb common of 20lb 11oz and my pb mirror of 23lb 15oz we’re all caught on a running lead clip. However I’m definitely making the change to you’re lead setup
@@banditfishing1558 Moving over to running leads was the best decision I ever made. You’ll never look back mate.
Hi Matt, really love your videos! I'm new to carp fishing, and a bit confused about lead clips though.. I thought the point was that the swivel can pop out of the clip in the event of a break off, making it safe? Clearly, I'm wrong, just don't understand why!
Re-watched, and I see you talk about rig tubing getting trapped when this happens. But what if you don't use rig tubing?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and for your question. I’m glad you enjoy the videos. For a newcomer I completely understand why you’re confused. It’s because it’s very confusing! Here is the question you need to ask yourself: do I need to dump the lead to safely land a carp? If the answer is no then don’t use a lead clip.
I didn't explain what happens if you use a leadless leader type material as the video was complicated enough as it was lol. The bottom line is this: if you have to use a lead clip because of weed or under water hazards, always use a lead clip that’s pinned to the swivel, whether you’re using rig tubing or a leadless leader and set it to dump on the take by partially pushing the tail rubber on. I hope that clears things up for you. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for the video, amzing having your feedback from seeing whats left in the lake. im looking at the theory and the way i have been fishing with an in line lead with tubing set up. in this type of setup, if there was a snap off, the swivel would need to come out with the line through the tubing to dump the lead ? but in your video explanation this means that debris and weed etc could trap the line in the tubing and even worse still carry the lead around!! you have the benefit of seeing the left over rigs in the lake. am i right in thinking this type of rig would be even more harmful, even though it would be used as manufacture intends ? my gut is now saying to stop using this in line method, or move over to an inline method that dumps the lead. any advice would be appreciated. ive not used helicopter set up much, can you explain why you are not a fan of it? thanks
@@richardfleming3308 Hi Richard, yes it’s a real eye opener owning a lake and being able to witness first hand how these things work in the real world. You mentioned inline leads and using them as the manufacturers intend. So yes, I used them this way for years believing them to be safe. Luckily before I owned a lake I came up with a better way of fishing with inline leads. At the time I did it because it solved the problem of the total lack of bite indication when using a semi fixed rig but the added benefit (which I didn't understand at the time) was that the rig was much safer. You need to check out my video on in line leads here: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html The video is very old now but this rig is still deadly effective. If casting isn't your strong point then use a solid PVA bag. If you want to use an inline then use my method. It’s safer and far more effective. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I’m not a fan of the helicopter rig. It’s not a rig I use much but I’ve been playing with it this year (for a very specific situation) and it works well. There’ll probably be a video at some point lol. Check out our latest video too. It’s very simple but very effective and very safe. Not great for heavy weed though: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you, perhaps wrong choice of words by me saying your not a fan of heli rig, i think you said its a rig you dont use much. cheers for advice
Which way does the lead clip face? Tail toward the hook or the main line? Thank you
Tail rubber towards the main line otherwise the lead won't eject.
Great video people don't enough of these videos they just promote the product.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. The manufacturers don't have any motivation for doing anything more than push product. I'm just an angler that enjoys sharing my experiences for the fun of it really. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
I totally understand the usefulness of loosing the lead BUT beating mother nature in her face by pesting lakes by corroding swivels and leads by tensof thousends of anglers... Any water solved metal by corrosion, fucks up the water quality and therefore any living being. Fish with heavier lines, do a running rig, though brake and keep the lead. So in ermergencies the lead will still come loose and the fish will live! So wise words at the end Mr. Collins! I am totally d'accord! :-)
Hi Christoph, thanks very much for taking the time to comment and for your support on this subject. I’m glad that you are d’accord with me! Cheers, Matt.
this video is just what i was looking for thanks for your knowledge it has just shown me what i was doing is right, and im glad to now go back and show my people that they was wrong and i was right thank you sir
Great to hear mate 😊
What about the safety of it when used on leadcore/ leadfree leader materials?
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I stopped using leadcore years ago but I use leadless leaders and I do use them with lead clips. As I’ve said in the video, I only use lead clips when I have to dump the lead and for me, most of the time, that’s not necessary. If I have to use a lead clip, I only use one with a pin and set the clip to dump on the take. If you use a lead clip with a pin with a leadless leader, as long as you set the clip right, it is safe. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Awesome video mate, what's your thoughts on the Atomic lead clips? Normally use a helicopter set up. But when I need to dump the lead atomic bombs away lead clips seem to be the best 😎
Hi mate, thanks for the feedback 😊 I’m not familiar with the Atomic lead clip, it does look different but I’ve never used it. I must admit that the helicopter rig is not a rig I use so I have very little knowledge and confidence in it. It’s definitely a weakness in my game lol. I’ve been a massive fan of running rigs for the last ten + years. If you haven’t found them yet then you could check out these other two videos. The first one is olden but golden and perfect for short to medium range on tricky estate lake where carp have seen it all, here’s the link: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html Next up is something a bit more universal. Not many situations where this rig doesn’t excel (apart from weed lol), it’s my current favourite and I can't seem to miss! Enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html. All the best, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I'll give it a try, cheers mate 😎
hey Matthew, i'm having some truble seting up runing feeder leeds coold you make a vidio on that plz
I'm sorry, I don't use swim feeders in my fishing, can't help.
Why use a ring swivel instead of a quick change swivel? saves looping on hair rig and would get better use from the anti tangle sleeve?
I use them too mate.
@@matthewcollinsangler cheers mate I commented too early in the video, just feel the anti tangle sleeve will kick out more on a quick change than the ring but very informative videos mate thanks
Hi Mathew on the Nash heavy duty lead clip you didn't wet the lead clip arm
Well spotted Ryan! We edited it out by accident lol
I'm new to big boy carp fishing ( although iv had bags well over a hundred pounds multiple times and a 20lb mirror) and just started investing in carp kit and studying the sport. Anyway from this video you are telling me I will lose my led everytime I hook a carp? And dropping the led is actually expected? Sounds daft and expensive to me?
Hi mate, lead clips were designed to drop the lead on the take but of course, it doesn’t make sense to do that either for the environment or your wallet. I don’t fish with lead clips. I made this video because I hate to see anglers deliberately dumping leads and I’ve found plenty at the bottom of my lake over the years.
Most of my fishing is done with some form of running lead system which the carp find extremely hard to deal with and I don’t lose the lead. There are plenty of examples of safe and effective running lead systems on this channel and that’s all I recommend for our guests at Beausoleil. Here are some examples: ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6meZucvGzWoXCl774le4hw-J.html.
Hope that helps and all the best in your fishing.
Cheers, Matt
Genuine question as I’m quite new to fishing, why would you drop the lead on every take? Surely it can’t be good dropping lead after lead into ponds etc? Also the cost of this would be ridiculous? If you catch 5 carp in a session, that’s 5 lead at the bottom of the water. Surely that just makes no sense? Cheers
Hi John, I totally agree. It is expensive and bad for the environment and as I show in the video, they can be set up wrongly by accident. That’s exactly why I hardly use lead clips in my carp angling. My go-to approach is to use a running lead system where you don’t dump the lead on the take. You’ll find lots of safe and effective versions on this channel so have a browse and choose something that interests you. If you are looking for a simple, safe and easy and effective option then watch this: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html Cheers, Matt
Is there a safe way of using a semi fixed set up that turns into a running rig?
Hi mate, so there are two really good safe and effective options that I’ve been using for years. For short to medium range and for compliance to tubing only rules then check out my trick inline running rig: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html. Another great option that is more of an allrounder is my trick mono ‘D’ rig: ua-cam.com/video/hoHB1gi_sQs/v-deo.html. I’ve only been using the mono ‘D’ for two years but it’s so effective it’s my go to rig for general carp fishing. The only time I don’t use it is when I fish massive lakes and rivers. Hope that helps, let me know. Cheers, Matt.
Put the lead and the rig in the PVA bag
Out in one helicopter rig more efficient i.e. Chhod or standard helicopter
08:03 on that cast was you clipped up?
Yeah he was
Does it not get expensive loosing your leads after every bite I’ve been fishing a couple months and been using the lead clip wrong
Hi mate, lead clips are the most popular lead system available and most anglers use them wrong so don't beat yourself up lol. It can get expensive if you do a lot of fishing and it's not great for the environment. I only use a leadclip when absolutely necessary because of weed or snags etc. I use running rigs most of the time, more effective, safe and cheap. Here's a good example of a simple running ledger rig: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html Best of luck, Matt.
Good video! But can’t say I’ve had any of these problems, or there is actually a problem. If your fishing a in-line lead you don’t lose fish, so I don’t see why it’s important to dump the lead straight away as obviously you can’t dump lead and also using tap on lead clip system to stop lead coming off on impact, dont believe is even a issue, it doesn’t happen.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I totally understand your scepticism. I’ve been using inline systems for years but the first thing I do is to remove the insert and replace with a tail rubber. Watch this for more details: ua-cam.com/video/ED58TfFEcqM/v-deo.html. These “trick” lead systems prevent the carp from using the weight of the lead when they first encounter the rig, after that it’s a running rig and there’s no issue. It all depends on the waters you fish but I know that when I started fishing harder lakes I’d get aborted takes and short flurries of beeps and proper runs were very rare. It’s easy to write these off as liners but when I changed to this type of lead system I got solid takes much more often. I’ve been working with guests here for the last ten years and turning blankers to bankers by tweaking their rig setups so it can definitely make a difference. Anyway, if it’s not an issue for you on the waters you fish then great. Cheers, Matt.
I'd like to see how the weight behaves in those situations while under water
Good vid but some info for you , NASH brought out the lead clip first not korda , also Nash designed it so if you crack of the fish can get rid of the lead not get rid of the lead on the take , also it were designed for weedy,snaggy waters .
Hi Chris, thanks for your input and for sharing your knowledge. Kevin Nash invented so much I’m not surprised he came up with the lead clip first. I’m aware of the MCF dumper clip but never used one. Since I made this video I also found out that Nash launched a lead clip specifically designed to dump the lead on the take called the weed clip. Not tried them myself but it’s something I’ll be looking into. Cheers, Matt.
I’m so confused so we are meant to dumb are weight and leave it ?? So then we haft to put another weight on ??
Hi Kaleb, it is very confusing and everyone has a different opinion! Lead clips work best when the tail rubber is pushed on very lightly so that they can dump the lead on the take, that’s how they are meant to work. This prevents the carp from using the weight of the lead to throw the hook. However, it’s bad for the environment and bad for your wallet!
The simple solution is to use a running rig! No dumping of the lead, and the carp can’t throw the rig. Watch this video and it will show you exactly how to tie a simple, yet highly effective mono hair rig which uses a basic run rig setup: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html. I hope you enjoy the rest of the channel. Cheers, Matt.
So, in the first example, are you saying that if you set up the clip right, you lose a lead every time you get a fish? I thought the idea was for it to detach if you're snagged up with a fish still attached?
Hi mate, yes, that’s right, if you set up a lead clip correctly, you dump the lead on each take, not just in snags. That’s how they were designed to work (and a great way to sell a lot of leads). If you set the clip too tight, you keep the lead on but you’re potentially fishing with an unsafe rig.
The other problem with setting it tight enough to stay on during the take is that the carp will use the weight of the lead to throw the hook out of its mouth without giving you any indication at all.
I hate the idea of losing a lead on every take but with lead clips it’s the best way of preventing the carp from doing you. I avoid using lead clips whenever possible because of this. I’ve been fishing running lead systems (in various forms) for the last 12 years and I always encourage our guests to adopt this practice. IMO a simple running lead system is safer for the carp, better for the environment and will outfish any traditional semi fixed lead system like a lead clip (unless you dump the lead on the take). This is based on my experience at my lake which is weed free but weedy lakes are different. I've fished lakes that are so bad, if you don’t drop the lead you will not land the carp. Hope that clears things up for you. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsanglerThanks for the reply. Hmmmm, interesting. Expensive and bad for environment as you say. I must admit, I’ve only started to look at these different rigs over the last year or so. Always fished running or in line semi-fixed bolt type rigs previously.
@@bigbrobunny Hi mate, I’d stick to the simple running rig. It’s all I’ve been using this year. New video out later today on that actually :) No dumping of the lead and the carp can’t do the rig. If the mainline fails the lead slides off very quickly so yeah, simple, safe. Cheers, Matt.
Could a possible solution to problem #4 be to use a lead core leader instead of using tungsten tubing ?
Hi mate, I haven't used lead core for years as I found that after a while the lead core can poke through the outer sleeve and that becomes dangerous. You are right though that a leader (I use the Nash cling-on lead free leader) does reduce the risk of problem#4, but I still wouldn’t advocate using a free running lead clip in this manner. I’ve tested it myself and I’ve seen what happens at my own lake when customers have tried it and things have gone wrong. It’s not pretty! The bottom line is 1) avoid using lead clips as far as possible 2) if you have to use them, use the pinned versions and dump the lead on the take. There are lots of safer and more effective running rig options available. Have a browse through the channel and pick one that suits your needs. I’ve used running rigs of one sort or the other for 15 years and I’d never swap back. Cheers, Matt.
@matthewcollinsangler thanks for the quick reply Matthew. I'll take your advice and look around your channel for a running rig I like 👍
@@LuisGutierrez-fi5rv Cool mate, here are a few options:
ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6mcp3DEbfqp0ruDrcWUFM0U_.html
@matthewcollinsangler Matthew I've just got done going through your Playlist of running rig videos. Phenomenal stuff, I appreciate you sharing your lifetime of wisdom. I'm left with a question, I'll be tying my mainline to a lead free leader directly. Can the ring swivel you use to connect your rig to the lead free leader be replaced by a quick change swivel without any added risk to the fish or rig?
@@LuisGutierrez-fi5rv Yes absolutely. In fact a size 8 quick change swivel is my go-to solution for the connection between rig and the cling-on leader. To attach the rig I just make them with a loop at the one end and slip on a short tungsten anti tangle sleeve. This then slides up onto the quick change swivel to hold the rig securely in place. Hope that helps, cheers, Matt.
How does it get a hook out when the trailing line has no lead?
Hi Lloyd, good question. I’ll take my lake as an example. We used to use micro-barbed hooks and I know the carp do get rid of them eventually (most of the time) although I don’t actually know how but they do it! Occasionally the carp were re-caught and had the hook removed for them. Two years ago we changed the rules to barbless only and it’s clear, with barbless, the carp gets rid of the hook much quicker. We’ve had zero incidences of fish trailing gear so barbless are clearly safer for the carp in all situations. Nowadays, I only fish with barbless hooks. If you’d like to watch more on this subject then checkout this video where I talk about barbless in more detail: ua-cam.com/video/ZxGllV2Zc5o/v-deo.html. Cheers, Matt.
I saw Tom Dove do that crush the swivel on the masterclass
Yes he loves it and now he's got DF at it. If you watch our latest video on lake features you'll see the result of doing this sort of thing and it ain't pretty: ua-cam.com/video/0XJoVYv_rIk/v-deo.html
Dropping the weight I feel is a game changer when you have to use barbless hooks !
Why?
@@james2614mc my personal experience was in the uk , fishing a 4 acre lake which was barbless hooks only . After losing 4 fish in the fight ! I had to change something! I went inline drop off and I landed the next 10 ! This lake had lots off lillys and reeds . All o know is I dropped the weight and could keep direct pressure on the fish. I fished in France on a barbless hook venue and what I also did not like was the damage the hook did to the carps mouths when using a rig where the weight stayed on ! Where possible I always drop the weight.. I on a personal point off veiw don't think the weight banging against the side off the carps gills when using a 4/5 inch rig is a good thing . Hope this explains clearly
You better show us how to do a running rig while using tubing now!
I’ve got several options on my channel:
ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/pSjT2wPKtTw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/aBvZyHBCyAE/v-deo.html
And there will be more in the future.
my apologies if I sound ignorant, but are you setting the rig so the lead falls off the line and into the water? Isn't that a waste of a lead?
Hi Harry, no problem at all with your question. Lead clips are designed to drop the lead on the take. That means you drop a lead in the water each time which of course is not a good idea for multiple reasons. That’s why I’ve seen many anglers try and force the lead to stay on so that they don't lose the lead. The problem in that case is that the rig becomes dangerous to the fish if the line breaks. I’m trying to show in this video the different ways that lead clips become dangerous if you don’t use them the way they are intended to.
I hate dumping leads and I only use lead clips if I absolutely have to drop the lead on the take, for example in heavy weed. The solution to the problem is simple and that’s to use running rigs which is what I do for 95% of my fishing. I’ve done several running rig videos. Cheers, Matt
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for replying. I was getting inline setup and lead clips mixed up together. Il stick to an inline rig, I watched your other vid on setting one up properly. Defo helped a lot!
I just use inline lead with no tubing if line breaks lead falls of and barbless hook will just fall out of hooked carp
Hi Oli, thanks for sharing. Most of my carping is also done using some form of running lead system, be it in-line or swivel based. All the best with your fishing, Matt.
I never knew you could have a problem like that, premature ejection. 😮 As you have discovered, lead clips and rig tubing can be a dangerous combination. Stick to running rigs which are less likely to tether a fish if the line breaks.
Totally mate, I’m a massive fan of running rigs, that’s what I use for most of my fishing and I've got several examples on this channel.
So you lose a lead every take? Do you have shares in a tackle company?
Lead clips were designed to drop the lead on the take but of course, it doesn’t make sense to do that either for the environment or your wallet. I don’t fish with lead clips. I made this video because I hate to see anglers deliberately dumping leads and I’ve found plenty at the bottom of my lake over the years. Most of my fishing is done with some form of running lead system which the carp find extremely hard to deal with and I don’t lose the lead. There are plenty of examples of safe and effective running lead systems on this channel and that’s all I recommend for our guests at Beausoleil. Here are some examples: ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6meZucvGzWoXCl774le4hw-J.html. Cheers, Matt
Hallo Matthew,
Like your video’s! But in this instance I don’t really share your opinion. These days Pole position tackle (CS lead systems) and PB products (Hit and Run) make very refined leadclips that are more “save” than the standard clips you show in your video. Also as a bonus your indiction is better, and you get to save the environment!
Best regards, Guus.
Hello Guus, thanks for commenting. I’m glad you like my videos (mostly 😉). I totally get where you're coming from. I’d heard of the Hit and Run system but not the CS system. PB Products is not well known in France or the UK and I haven’t been able to try their system yet. Thanks for passing on the information. As I said at the end of the video, I avoid using lead clips and dropping the lead whenever possible. My preference nowadays is to use a plastic run ring with a large hole that’s difficult to jam. The plastic ring is also easily broken in the worse case scenario. To be honest, I did this video because I still see lots of anglers here at Beausoleil that set up this Korda lead clip wrong. It’s still a widely used product in the UK. In fact in the latest Korda video (released this week), they crush the swivel which for me is totally wrong! I think anglers in the Netherlands have moved on from this old fashioned product, but not in the UK or France yet unfortunately. Thanks for the feedback 😊 Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler No problem😉 I do find it remarkable that leading company’s like korda or Nash, do not develop a similar system.. especialy when fish safety is sutch a thing these days.
I think we both know the anwser to that 😬
Thanks for replying to my post👍
Looking forward to your next vid!
@@guusnijhuis4420 Hi Guus, yes definitely. What's remarkable is that Korda makes the components for a simple running lead system which is much much safer! Why on earth anyone would want to convert a lead clip into a running rig is beyond me. That’s why running lead systems have dedicated plastic rings with big holes in them! I will order some of the hit and run clips to try for myself. We’ve got more videos already in the pipeline and we’ll be filming more this year. If there’s a subject that you’d like to see me cover, let me know and we’ll see what we can do. Best regards, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I really don’t know the reason that’s behind that. I do find that the only save setup is a setup that just leaves the hooklink in the carps mouth.
Great that you are willing to try the CS system! I think it’wil surprise you! If I come across something
worthy to do a video about, I will let you know. Thanks again for your comments👍.
I never drop the lead. I think it's bad for the lake, water quality and there for, for the carp in it.. it's also verry expensive to use new leads every fish. So i use a safety Leadclip systeem. In case the main line snaps the line can run true the line clip and the fish is only left with the rig and a quick change swivel. In al of you're line clips the fish wil be left with al of the main line and there for it's still dangerous to the carp.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting. I totally agree with you. I am not a fan of lead clips either and I don't like to drop the lead on the take, that's what I say at the end of the video. With regards to rig safety I’ve now changed over to barbless hooks. I also prefer running leads with a large safety ring which is very easy for the line to pass through even if there is chod or weed on the line. I’m not sure what system you’re using where the mainline can run safely through the clip and only leave the hooklink. This sounds like a helicopter setup to me? I'd be interested to know what it is. There are loads of different designs out there and I’ve certainly not fished with them all. I meet a hundred anglers a year and I can only tell you what I’ve seen. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler the setup i use is the safety Leadclip from carpwisperer they have great video's about it on UA-cam. It's a sythem whit normal Leadclip where the rig swivvel is not tight to the mainline. It runs true the swivvel. I use a leadfree leader on it. Runs true Every time and gives great bite indication!
@@thijsvermeer8565 I'll check it out. Thanks for making me aware of the product :)
@@matthewcollinsangler my pleasure! I find your video's really learnfull! This is the video about the saftyleadclip: ua-cam.com/video/XNez8IFl1mA/v-deo.html
Best to put subs on cus it's in dutch. Fish safety is a big thing here in Netherlands and Belgium. Also look at the product of the brand: PB products. Cheers mate!
So every time you get a bite,you lose a sinker ?
Lead clips were designed to drop the lead on the take but of course, it doesn’t make sense to do that either for the environment or your wallet. I don’t fish with lead clips. They should only be used in very weedy waters where you have to dump the lead to safely land the carp. I made this video because I hate to see anglers deliberately dumping leads and I’ve found plenty at the bottom of my lake over the years. Most of my fishing is done with some form of running lead system which the carp find extremely hard to deal with and I don’t lose the lead. There are plenty of examples of safe and effective running lead systems on this channel and that’s all I recommend for our guests at Beausoleil. Here are some examples: ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6meZucvGzWoXCl774le4hw-J.html
did korda invent the lead clip system?
Yes, that's right, they did, they launched it late 1990's.
I was under the impression it was Nash tackle
@@crazyjeffy4964 Hi Adam, I thought I read on the Korda website that they launched them in the late nineties but looking at it again, you’re right, they weren't the first one, looks like it was Kevin Nash who released them in 1992.
Thanks 😊
@@matthewcollinsangler many thanks,
Great video the less carp that get tethered the better. There's not enough talk and video on fish welfare
Hi Alan, thanks for the support. It's a major focus for me as both angler and fishery owner.
Well at more than 3.00 USD each for leads I push mine all the way up...them being "Disposable" is insane.
I get where you’re coming from. There’s an alternative to lead clips and that’s a running rig: you keep the lead and they’re very safe and effective. If you fancy going through my channel, you’ll find several designs of running rigs, here’s where to start if you’re interested: ua-cam.com/video/ckzalwJuh0c/v-deo.html
@@matthewcollinsangler I will check it out.
Wait so you are supposed to loose a lead every time you hook a fish?
Lead clips were designed to drop the lead on the take but of course it doesn’t make sense to do that either for the environment or your wallet. I hate dumping leads and I don’t fish with lead clips. They should only be used in very weedy waters where you have to dump the lead to safely land the carp. I made this video because. Most of my fishing is done with some form of running lead system which the carp find extremely hard to deal with and I don’t lose the lead. There are plenty of examples of safe and effective running lead systems on this channel. Here are some examples: ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6meZucvGzWoXCl774le4hw-J.html
I agree fish safety is priority but I have one question as it doesn't scientifically work...you cut the leg of the lead clip system so therefore are required to push the tail rubber further up the lead clip making it tighter than previously was...doesn't make sense 🙃
Hi David, thanks for commenting. With a standard lead clip the lead is hooked onto the leg of the clip and then the tail rubber is pushed over the leg to retain it. With my solution I remove the leg, push the tail rubber onto the tail rubber fully, and then use a ring to slide onto the tail rubber and then attach a lead to that. The lead slides quickly and easily away (up the line) rather than being ejected and dumped on the lake bed. I hope that clears things up for you. Regards, Matt.
Premature eject..ulation :D
I'm genner push it all a way on ly at
I would love to dump the lead on every take but can’t afford to replace them all the time.
It all depends where you’re fishing… Dumping the lead on a heavily weeded water is the difference between banking what you hook or losing the carp. Dumping the lead at any other water is bad for the environment. I made this video to encourage anglers to consider alternative solutions such as running leads, which is what I use for 90% of my fishing. Running leads prevent the carp from using the weight of the lead against you and you get to keep the lead so it's a win win. If you’re interested, you'll find various different running lead setups on this channel. Cheers, Matt.
If i push them on half way im loosing a lot of fish even with very sharp hooks, every situation is differend ! I push them on all the way and i lose my leads even on the take ... depends on the weight of the leads to !!! Im even losing my leads with no reason even if i push them all the way !
Hi Danny, thanks for commenting. Sounds like you are having a bit of a mare mate! I meet many anglers that believe they are fishing with sharp hooks when they aren’t. A couple of things that you may find of interest:
- Here’s a video I made where I show what hook points really look like under a loupe: ua-cam.com/video/yPDZV9xY_UA/v-deo.html
- And why don’t you watch this rig video, that might help reset your carp fishing: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html
All the best, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler i fish for carp almost 30 years now, i know what a sharp hook is 😁 i even sharp them myself if i need to ... no need to drop my leads that fast.
Have you ever tried pushing the rubber on the inside of the arm ? It’s all I do these days as it works better… try it 🤔
Hi Lee, thanks for the suggestion. I’m not exactly sure I follow. Are you saying that you fish with a version of this shock and run system (with a run ring pushed over the tail rubber) but rather than chop the leg off, you tuck the tail rubber underneath the leg? I guess it depends on what lead clips and tail rubbers you are using. Maybe you’re not using a run ring and just pushing the swivel in between the tail rubber and the leg of the lead clip 🤔 I can see that working for sure. I’m testing a new run clip at the moment which will make this system redundant but that sounds like a great version. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt
I don’t like the idea of the tail rubber going over the serrated arm so we all used to cut them down for safety, but now I just slide the rubber under so the lead can always eject , that’s why I prefer the mcf dumper system
Thanks
Lee
So every time he catches a carp he loses a lead?
Hi James, I know, it’s mad, but that’s what lead clips were designed to do. However, that’s not what I advocate!! I hate dumping leads (that’s why I made the video). I know a lot of anglers do it and are okay with it. For me there are usually better alternatives but sometimes, depending on the fishing situation, you have to. Most of my fishing is done with some form of running lead system which the carp find extremely hard to deal with. Plus it saves me money and it’s better for the environment because I hardly lose any leads. There are plenty of examples of safe and effective running lead systems on this channel and that’s all I recommend for our guests at my lake. Here are some examples: ua-cam.com/play/PLHQUkuWLN6meZucvGzWoXCl774le4hw-J.html. Cheers, Matt
@@matthewcollinsangler hi Matt
Thanks for replying.
I fished in the 90’s , when fishing for carp I had a ledger an one split shot free running set the drag on the reel an wait for it too scream, great days
I am just getting back into it with my son who is 6, omg it’s a different ball game now, anyway the excitement I had as a boy has been reignited
I never thought I’d get that back,
Just subbed to your channel
All the best
James
@@jamessteal121 I had a very similar journey mate, starting back in the 80’s then had a 10 year break. I was very shocked when I restarted lol. Check out my mono hair rig, super simple, deadly effective: ua-cam.com/video/LzFina92brM/v-deo.html. Thanks for subscribing 😊
@@matthewcollinsangler 👍👍👍
Only true safe lead clip is made from MCF called the dumper lead clip