Review: The Atheist Delusion (TTA Podcast 301)
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- The hosts of God Awful Movies join Seth Andrews for a review of Ray Comfort's new film, "The Atheist Delusion." They watched the movie...so you don't have to. Enjoy!
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Previous GAM show with Seth: • TTA Podcast 279: God A...
If the eye was so perfectly designed, why do a lot of people end up needing glasses?
That's basically what I've said to other people except I didn't use the eye as my example. I used the throat. The throat and esophagus are stupidly designed for obvious reasons. A person could choke on their food and die.
Because Satan of course. Everything good comes from God and bad from Satan. Now stop asking questions. You're making people unkomfortable
“The human body is a perfect creation!” says Ken Hamm, wearing glasses and a hearing aid. And why is it that humans are the only animals that have to wipe themselves after defecating?
If I may sum up Comforts arguments;Look at this puddle here. How could the hole be the exact shape of the water here if it wasn't designed that way.
SilortheBlade Douglas Adams, eh?
SilortheBlade Ooh! Ooh! My turn!
*New Zealand Accent* You see how these roots anchor the plant and suck up water like a straw? That HAS to be the work of a creator.
Every argument for ID works something like that.
I use that twist for homosexuality... look at this sample. how irs perfectly crafted for a cock? see the prostate right there? how else could there be sex in the ass how else could these things fit perfectly without a creator ?
*SILORTHEBLADE:*
One could not be as stupid as you pretend to be without a great deal of effort! [smh]
*MANJIT TOOR:*
But hey, ooh, ooh! My turn! Have you ever seen how an uncaused explosion of nothing, nowhere, can generate all time, space, and matter, and then how that matter can come to life, and then how that life can become all life, and then how some of that life can claim to know things that there is zero evidence for and only evidence against? Me neither, but that doesn't stop the atheists from believing and being proud of their faith! [face-palm]
*THE AMAZIN' ZEDD:*
And you have a better explanation that is in agreement with all that we do know, observe, and experience - or do you just have blind faith?
*JAMES CROW:*
For sure, no reason for reason or logic when one is defending self-destructive behaviors, right? Oh, of course not! Just course jesting and reveling in idiocy! No IQ necessary! LOL
Seth was a pleasure as always. And I liked the guests. They really cracked me up.
Yes, indeed! Check out the Scathing Atheists sometime (his guests here). They're great! They have three podcasts: Scathing Atheists, God Awful Movies, and the Skepticrat.
Eli is absolutely hysterical.
I would hate to be stuck in a lift with those guys...the incessant cackling at how awesome they obviously think they are.
I couldn't watch this.
that ray comfort impersonation is so perfect.
Isn't it though? I find the NZ accent pretty hard to imitate successfully but he pulls it off.
I lost it at "He made an Austrailian noise."
He is from New Zealand
@@mkely9032 That makes it even weirder.
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I’m pretty sure that doesn’t matter because he does most of his his preaching in AUSTRALIA.
Thanks for your interesting little bit of “who gives a crap”, I’m sure that proves his point. 🙄
For anyone who ever feels a bit sorry for Ray, or is seduced by his cute accent and apparent politeness, never EVER forget that he said this in a recent interview about the movie......................
"Nor should you trust an atheist with your teenage daughter, in the workplace or in the legislature. This is because of their track record. History reveals that atheists have been responsible for the slaughter of 110,000,000 human beings." - Ray Comfort
It's the old communism argument - religious people still don't understand that correlation is not the same as causation.
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Actually, if Stalin believed in leprechauns then he would've tried to take their pot of gold and redistribute it; And he'd never have had time to become an oppressive dictator.
But yeah, the rest of the things you mentioned has nothing to do with him!
Never trust an atheist with your teenage daughter. This from the man who's BFF is Josh Duggar.
Jud
If you don't have anything intelligent or nice to say don't say it...
@@luisocasrio3796 Then he wouild probably never speak.
Eli licked Ray Comfort...
I just blew coffee out my nose.
Well done, Eli.
... Just read YOUR comment and did the same thing ! ...
"He makes a little Australian noise" might be the most amazing sentence I've ever heard.
I laughed, but one must remember, Ray is from New Zealand ...
Congratulaions Seth on the 300+ podcast. Looking forward to the next milestone. Hi from Syria.
stay safe....
geoffrey royan
Thanks
Echo the sentiment. Stay safe over there, Paul.
I'm still grateful that Seth pointed me towards the three podcasts made by Noah, Heath and Eli (and also Lucinda and Anna of course), there was a lot of binge watching involved in the meantime and tons of fun not just with the God Awful Movies - movies...
This cast once more proved why the boys are so darned entertaining. And right a lot of the time too :D
The God Awful Movies crew are always a hoot! Thanks for another great episode, Seth. I never had any intentions of watching Comfort's movie, now, I know what I'm being spared from.
If a creator God is so obvious, why is it that so many thousands of religions completely disagree on who the obvious creator God is, and how he she, or it obviously created the world? When where and how?
pretty much
Don't expect logic from indoctrinated people. It's like expecting a snail to solve a complicated math problem.
uncleanunicorn Well he tries explaining that with "people trying to explain the order they see around them".
"What came first the chicken or the egg?" Answer: The fish. I love it. This answer cracks me up.
2 eggs overlight, toast and home fries. Thanx
I wish I had known about these shows earlier!
They're put together so well.. and the combination of the funny, giddy guys and informative interviews really holds you.
Awesome job, thank you!
Stop doing an Aussie accent. Ray is a Kiwi. Isn't it bad enough that you can blame us for Ken Ham? Now you're trying to blame us for Ray Comfort too?
BoskMaster Hear Hear....well said that man!
BoskMaster we don't blame you for Ken Ham. Every country has there kooks unfortunately here in America we elect ours president
We blame you for New Zealand, too. :D
BoskMaster dude, for an american its not bad as far as that type of accent. gimme a break. NZ has more sheep than people and Americans are supposed to study that horrible accent. no thx.
lol well im south african and i think the australians and americans should worry less about accents and rather aspire to out immense polititians who surely are the world standard in ethical and honest behavior ;)
Thank you Seth and the crew from God Awful Movies for doing "the hard work" of slogging through Ray Comfort's personal hell, seemingly limitless projections, and every expanding cognitive dissonance, so that I don't have to. You all desrve a medal.
Jesus you're on a roll Seth! All those 300th videos and now this one with all those interviews. Don't get me wrong, it's all awesome but I can only guess all the work that goes into it. Don't you dare burn out on us man!!
I burst into flames last Monday. Natalie scooped up the ashes and poured them in my studio chair, which is how these got done. ;) Thanks! -Seth
+TheThinkingAtheist Ray is not an Aussie. Ken Ham was, but was to crazy so he's yours now.
We don't want him. You can have him back....but we keep Claudia Black.
If Ray ever asks any of you about porn then describe the porn you watch to him. I think he is just testing if anyone will do that.
I think the number one question when Ray starts about Adam is, :"Were you there?".
I live in New Zealand.
Sorry, about Ray. :P
Azirahael it's ok mate we all have people have were all ashamed of. Hell we here in have given the world Donald Trump
Peter Rivera I think mike pence is worse he makes SHillary look almost presentable then you add Tim Kane and that sunk that ship
Peter Rivera Well, it ain't your fault.
Unless you voted for him >(
No taurus excretus There were no good choices in this election.
Stuck between corrupt and crazy.
Think the system needs an overhaul.
Azirahael no I didn't I have a brain
I was incredibly amused that the ad shown before this was for Prager University complaining about the destruction of "Merry Christmas".
I'm gonna spell this out : Laughing My Fucking Ass Off !!! The whole part about, "the chicken and the egg", had me rolling !! I'm dying over here !! And then, you ask a freaking expert ! So great ! Perfection !! I love it ! Going from serious to crazy funny is a breath of fresh air ! On a real note - I thoroughly enjoy your shows. I've been an Atheist since high school , but the past few years I've been living in Kentucky - deep in the bible belt ! So, I can only talk to my husband about Atheism. So, I need your podcasts ! Everyone here shoves god and jesus down my throat every time I go in public. There's more churches than stores. It's unreal around this place... So, Thank You for making your show ! It really helps to hear like-minded people from time to time . :) Great Job !
" the past few years I've been living in Kentucky "
My condolences.
just a clarification... While Ray Comfort does like to stage interviews that give the impression that he's on a college campus, the DRAMA wing of CSULB while technically part of a college is not likely to be a wealth of informed opinion about biology.
Neither is Santa Monica Pier during the weekdays when the only people on the beach are the trust fund babies who took Skiing as their major with a minor in Tanning Booth.
Very happy this popped up in my feed. I'm a big fan of both GAM and TA, so the crossover episode is great.
The biggest thing for me that makes Ray a bad faith actor is seeing his points across his material. In this one the eye is a glorious creation of god and only he could make something so perfect. In other ones he derides atheists for believing our lying eyes that can't be trusted. Putting them together him pointing at the eye is like me pointing at the Beverly Hillbillies' jalopy and extolling the perfection of its builder.
SNL needs to do a parody of "Audacity" called "Atrocity" staring Kate McKinnon the lesbian that came to SNL after being discovered in an LGBT improve group.
Troy Evitt actually it was an LGBT sketch comedy show
Ray Comfort is a Kiwi, not an Aussie!
And sorry guys. Your accents were not convincing to a native speaker.
Templetonq No kidding! It's not even convincing to me, and I'm an American. It's about on par with Mike Myers' Scottish affectation when he was playing Fat Bastard.
Evhan the Infidel actually both accents u r referring to are pretty good. The kiwi accent isn't quite right but it's not bad for an american and Mike Myers does a pretty good Scottish accent (though exagerated). his parents were from northern England so he has an ear for British stuff.
raleighman3000 He's not bad on SNL or as Shrek, but Fat Bastard is way exaggerated, not just a little. It's like TV Irish versus the various Irish accents that exist in real life. I imagine there's some variation between regions in New Zealand, but I can hear a distinct difference between actual Kiwis I've talked to and listened to and Eli's affectation. Eli's also used almost the exact same voice for Ken Ham before, and he's Australian. That suggests to me that he can't tell the difference.
They mentioned Calvary Chapel in southern California. That's where Church Smith started the chain of churches that are all over the country.
Also, Chuck Missler came up with the "Peanut Butter Argument" years before Ray's "Bannana Argument". Ray pretty much stole Chuck schtick.
Ray has since come back to the banana. using the old no transitional forms argument. As if things evolve from head to toe. the so called fronkey crocoduck type.
He knows and many street preachers know they are cornered. They don't want truth but want to feel superior and get that money. It is about power that cults and religions can give religious leaders. It isn't about anything much related to morals, love, or caring if people accept a certain religion. Also it is funny when Muslims copy these techniques Christian preachers use to advertise and con people.
Jennifer IsaacsHi Jennifer , nothing people do is that black & white, not forgetting these folks sincerely believe with all their hearts that it really helps, as delusional as it may be.
I agree VideoAudioDisco09.
Peter Foote yes all isn't just black and white , but I was talking about con artists where those that just do it for power and money. Not all believe the exact same things about every sect of religion. Though some don't believe really at all, but rather just to stay on the band wagon of whatever theism for other reasons.
Jennifer Isaacs it always was about power. how else could a dumb nobody make a name for himself even in " biblical times"
Rory Tennes lol Ray lived from the start of " biblical times"? I guess people could worship Ray and other con artists as a god of past lives. Many people worship cult leaders all the time as messiahs, gods, or demigods.
Ever see "Monty Python's Life of Brian"?
"Brian Called Brian: You don't need to follow me! You don't need to follow anybody! You got to think for yourselves! You're all individuals! You're all different!
Man: I'm not..."
If you feel cons are dumb I guess you think the gullible and indoctrinated are even more foolish? Snake oil advertising and propaganda comes in variations of trickery.
Religion provides no answers, science does.
Ohhhh Eli. Never change you beautiful, crazy, man.
Ray Comfort ... MONEY... MONEY ... MONEY .... MONEY
Love the breakaways, great guests and great insight. Excellent and entertaining platform. 3 years old and just recommended..🤔
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The accent. I'm just loosing my shit. TOO funny and way too accurate. XD
These 3 guys are hilarious. Great vid.
Noah really looks like a rural republican housewife.
Jesus Christ I laughed so hard this whole interview. Fantastic, Seth!
I've watch a couple of your podcasts now, and I just want to say that it's great to see this level of production on youtube, the quality of your program is great. I feel like it should be on the ABC right after Q&A.
Also as an Aussie I think the accent was bang on most of the time, pretty good for a Yank.
Best review of this film so far.
Excellent work.
I remember when this movie was called evolution "vs" God.
Ray Comforts has nothing new! I do not even think he is even relevant any more.
This was an extremely enjoyable episode. Thanks, Seth.
I asked my free schooled drop out teen the “what came first” question and he explained worms probably laid eggs first and he was very well informed about evolution. Maybe we just need to leave our kids in front of Google.
Comfort had to get a dig at Dawkins didn't he. I wonder why is it that so many Christians seem to think that Richard Dawkins is the emperor of all atheists?
They believe that everyone worships something because they assume everyone does. They can't wrap their heads around people not viewing something or someone as infallible.
I think that it is because it threatens their image of what an atheist is like. Så they have to demonize him to make him fit into their expectant conception.
MrMetalover666. they can't get past us having no leaders. they can't imagine any group that doesn't have a leader or that atheists worship nothing.
Jack Chick did do some good. It was a Chick Tract that was the catalyst for the argument I had with my best friend when I was 12 that made me realize I was an atheist.
59:03 Next time I buy an energy boost drink I'm gonna ask the vendor to sell me a can of God xD
At 58:45 in this video: I'm pretty the guy who agreed God was like an energy drink was just going along with Ray Comfort sarcastically like any typical young man would.
-Like an energy drink?
-Yeah. Pfff.
I watched this film and found Jesus!!! He was down at the corner bar, drunk off His ass, but at least he paid me the $20 he owed me.
Atheism is not a delusion. It is the default state of all life forms.
Outstanding. And yup, my mom went through a Chick tract phase when I was little. Horrible. I had nightmares for years. And, as far as punishment for the rapist, what's so lame is that, under Ray's model, a person can rape and murder for their whole life, yet say the magic words on their deathbed and still go to heaven. Great moral model, lol.
2:00 for the full Ray Comfort licking saga, I have to listen to this every few months to confirm what the "Australian noises" are that Ray makes. Something like YEEP-gibbeteh-gibbeteh.
Comfort is from New Zealand, not Australia.
Unfortunately, the same can't be said about Ken Ham.
comrade harps yep. 😒
LachyM8!!!!!! same thing
LachyM8!!!!!! Ray cumfart the Aussies can have him
No taurus excretus well we wouldn't take him seriously here anyway, we're not American.
Check Ray Comforts bank balance, that's his motivation.
When I saw the title "the Atheist Delusion", I was convinced that it was some satirical short-film about non-believe and non-karate. 😃
What I saw seem's to be pretty much against "thou shalt not bear false witness". 🤔
wow! those are some comically talented guests.
I watch the entire movie "the atheist delusion". its a steaming pile of ****.
I'm gonna sit and listen to your program now Seth, go on destroy that thing...
Nomeno Djinova Unfortunately, they didn't really destroy it. It was mostly a ton of comedy. Not complaining, but it wasn't the video I was expecting. :/
Go find the actual god awful movies pod cast it's on audoboom...all of Rays "movies" have the G.A.M. treatment For free.
44:44 "Which came first: the Chicken, or the Egg?"
No matter what, the egg came first. Either before birds as a type of animal came about, there were creatures that layed eggs in the world.
Or, if you specifically mean a _chicken egg_ the egg still came first. As evolution progressed, non-chicken ancestors to chickens gradually changed over time, eventually one that was nearly-indistinguishable from a modern chicken would lay an egg that had a mutation. Thus a chicken-egg was laid. So, a chicken-egg came before a chicken (which would then hatch from said egg).
So you're saying that a non-bird produced an egg first... So what came first then, the creature that laid the egg... or the egg? Well, you say, "EGG!" So something else was alive and had the capability of producing offspring... which begs the question. _Are you really this simple minded or are you honestly so stupid that you miss the entire point?_
@@jessebryant9233TL;DR at bottom.
In the beginning there was no life in the universe. Over time various chemicals, temperature fluctuations, and environmental instabilities allowed for elements, to form molecules, which then went on to form basic proteins.
These proteins would be shifted and moved around; sometimes they'd be broken back down before anything special could happen, but other times they'd manage to link together with another protein that was lucky enough to be shaped correctly. Lather, rinse, repeat for an unknown amount of time, and these combinations would link together into linger chains until the most basic single-celled "lifeforms" came to be.
They were barely above complex chemicals, just reacting to the environment in predisposed means: wet? float. dry? break. too acidic? energize a bit and move away. (basic _potential_ examples that could come about through chemical reactions).
Over time means of self replication would be acquired through chance (proteins arrange in such a way that they gather new ones to start building a new chain), and because it improves the number of this same "cell" it continues to be created. More and more of these "cells" are being made, so more of this simple "life" continues to spread into new areas.
In these new areas, different kinds of proteins could be found. Some may even have partial shape similarity to the old ones, allowing them to be brought into the production line. Here we have random mutations.
Different but similar proteins are brought into the mix, causing new reactions to external stimulus. The "cells" become more complex, causing them to advance more rapidly into new territories and gaining more mutations.
Millions of years of this, the types "cells" dying off, sometimes permanently sometimes because they changed too much to be considered the same thing. They get longer, more complex chains, causing them to get bigger and have more parts that have different functions.
Eventually, they gain code that lets them work together- multi-cellular organisms. These are larger, much more complex, and better at surviving. However they still need to go about gathering energy and slowly changing.
Eventually we have ancient fish, plants, lizards, amphibians, etc... Most of the mutations in life are caused during the newly produced "sexual reproduction." Since the new lifeforms aren't built by a single lifeform they don't have as rapid of extreme changes, so they're more stable but also slower to adapt as a species.
For the animal-based life, producing a protected egg that contains the basic necessities for producing a new life becomes much more useful. In fact you could argue that seeds are just "plant eggs" (excluding the normal terminology for sexual reproduction cells). So, "egg" but not a "chicken egg."
Millions of years go by, eventually we acquired birds in our menagerie. Slow mutations change one species until a "non-chicken" lays a chicken egg. Out hatches the first "chicken."
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*TL;DR*
-If they want the answer to "What came first? The chicken, or the chicken's egg" The answer is the egg. *(non chicken laid first chicken egg)*
-If they want the answer to "What came first? The chicken, or any kind of egg" The answer is still obviously the egg.
*(eggs have existed in various forms long before chickens did)*
-If they want the answer to your version "What came first? This creature that laid an egg, or the egg laid by this creature?" _That_ creature that laid _that_ specific egg... *(it's freaking obvious that the chicken that laid the egg you're holding, came about before the egg **_it_** laid)*
-If they want the answer to "What came first, *life,* or an egg?" The answer is going to be *life.*
But no one ever specifies _life_ it's always "chicken." They ask "Which came first, this creature that hatches from these eggs, or the eggs that it lays?"
Some other type of creature will have come before it, whether the first version of this current species is in any form similar to to now, is irrelevant. It's a direct ancestor, without that prehistoric non-egg-laying semi-lifeform, we wouldn't have the now egg-laying version.
It may be a question intended to make you think in circles over "how can something be created before the thing that created it" but that's not the game everyone wants to play. However you phrase it, there is an answer. But if the asker just wants to confuse the other person and not listen to the answer, who's the real fool?
@@DraconicDuelist
Wow, the king of blather! Thanks for sharing what you believe... purely by blind faith. It was a cute story that contained... almost no science... and completely missed the point while ignoring empirical science (what we actually do know and observe)! Nice! (Proverbs 1:22, 14:7) Who is the real fool? The one who believes the anti-science fairy-story you just told. Talk about easy-believism. The Bible says, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..."
Please don't blame Australia for Ray Comfort. He originates from New Zealand.
Some friends and I streamed a live reaction to this film if anyone's interested.
Love your stuff, Seth.
I actually had to debate myself into watching this as i know anything produced by the likes of Ray Comfort about atheism is just going to be so much cringe i will facepalm myself into a concussion.
So if a stoned, badly educated teen doesn’t get something God exists, how does that make sense?
42:57 Cardinal George Pell was indeed convicted of child sexual abuse in 2019, upheld on appeal, but the High Court of Australia decided both juries may have "relied too heavily on evidence from the victim and not considered other evidence."
Ray Comfort is a businessman who sells lies in books and movies. He markets them by doing personal promos on video, in which he attempts to argue his preferred deity into existence with people who aren't prepared for such arguments, and giving selective interviews. He's a perpetual motion machine, using snippets of his films as promos, and including his promo work in his films, apparently. Therefore, he has no interest in learning anything that would slow sales, and he has no interest in engaging in meaningful discussion with any intelligent individual...that would slow sales. See how this works? It's really not worth tilting at this windmill any further than to say, "Oh look, Ray Comfort has added another item to his inventory," every time he releases a book or a movie.
There's not just white people in New Zealand, there are Maori in New Zealand too.
atheist death is the peace that surpasses all understanding. ceasing to exist means not missing out on any tiny thing or ever missing one's loved ones again.
Omg this was just a great video, I was chuckling all the way through! Thank you!
I needed a laugh, I learnt some things from Lawrence and Jerry too. Eliis accent is more Aussie than Kiwi. Australia can have Ray.
Ray Comfort (not his real last name) is so deserving of this roasting by Seth and some very comical atheists.
Eli's Ray Comfort impression sounds just like Rhys Darby... :p
Even though he thinks Ray's Australian.
Seth's urbane voice combined with the acid humour of the guests just had me cracked up.
Ray Comfort has a couple of "saving graces"
a) he doesn't disable comments.
b) without Bananaman there would be less laughing on this earth.
Keep up the good work.
I too count the seconds from opening credits until first tears in Ray Comfort movies... what an odd thing to have in common with Seth.
The best part is: Ray Comfort thinks god is omnipotent, right? So HE believes that the book can come out of nothing if god wants it. He is what he is accusing others of.
Absolutely enjoyable show.
Thank you, Seth
I needed that
😂😂😂😂😂
Omg! I love these guys😂
…thx for all you’re doing Seth
Seeing the banana video makes me feel old. Has it been 20 years?! geez
Wasn't the long-haired dude in Dazed and Confused?
Thank the stars for scientists, if we had to rely on people like comfort to figure things out; the human race would would have died out a long time ago.
My first time seeing the God Awful Movies crowd! Now I have faces to the voices...maybe it was better when I imagined them as superheroes?
I don't know what you guys are talking about. I just watched the Atheist Delusion for the 3st time and became a born again Christian… not really. Great stuff guys.
Here's Ray thinking (if you can call it that), Books can't write themselves, therefore there is a magical, invisible, intangible, conscious being outside the universe that can will things into existence magically.
Sounds like a rational conclusion! lol
The God Awful Movie guys rock !
“Like an energy drink?” I had to pause the video at that point.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that millions of people do in fact deny the obvious, billions in fact. The obvious is that we generally have almost everything figured out about our universe, a few things were just now learning the mechanics of, and whatever else is left to discover which is irrelevant because if we don’t know it then it isn’t knowledge. We even have the how and when our universe came to be through science. The who (if there is one) and why are still unknown but we will figure it out someday
I would like to hear an answer from Ray to the question of parasitism. Like if God created everything so perfect and beautiful then why does there need to be something like that which at best is just a minor nuisance to the host and at worst leads to the host dying, because it is necessary for the parasitic organism to survive. I of course referring to parasitic wasps (and yes you can find several videos on youtube about them) and certain species of nematomorpha (aka horsehair worm).
You might find this helpful:
creation.com/what-about-parasites
Ray Comfort living in your Country has increased the I.Q. o f his homeland and yours. On behalf of his homeland, thank you.
I guess I misinterpreted their meaning of "licking Ray Comfort".
Wow.
Oh my gawd, I watched it and it was an entire video of misrepresenting evolution and mental gymnastics. Lying for god is still the only argument that they have.
I remember those Jack Chick cartoons! They scared me as a child and had me wondering...if God loves everyone, why would he make these bad things happen? And how can anyone go to Hell if God loves everyone?
1. In order to know what 'bad' is, you must know what 'good' is. But in a godless universe, there is only stuff that stuff happens to. It isn't good or bad. Or are you declaring that anything you don't happen to like is 'bad'?
2. Because love requires justice. Nobody has to go to Hell. But in order to be forgiven, you must first repent and transfer your trust from yourself to the Savior. It is not a question of whether God loves you. The question is, do you love God? Do you love what is good and hate what is bad?
Wait...are you implying 'good' and 'bad' are related to religion and don't exist without god or religion? If so, you need to look at Humanism...it's 'goodness without God.' If you need religion to be a decent human being, that says nothing good about you.
@@gingersgiraffes219
Objective good does not exist if there is no transcendent standard. Otherwise, as with humanism, it is an arbitrary standard. Humanism is not rational.
There doesn't have to be a standard. If you don't like something someone does to you, you consider it to be bad--you don't need a god to tell you hurting someone is a bad thing. Humanism is much more rational than believing in something that doesn't exist. There is no proof of a God and lots of contradictions in the bible--a book that is supposedly the word of God.
@@gingersgiraffes219
1. Who said there HAS to be a standard? But, do YOU live as if there is no standard? Obviously YOU do not! This of course is an inconsistency/contradiction on your part.
2. Don't like ≠ ought not, bad, evil, wicked, wrong, or sinful. YOU are being arbitrary and acting as if YOU are the source of the standard even while YOU are claiming that there is no standard while acting like there is. (Confused and contradictory? Yep! But that's humanism for ya!) Fact is, YOU recognize the there IS a standard, even while YOU deny the only possible source of such a standard. (See Romans 2:14-15)
3. Also, when YOU say that hurting people is bad - YOU are acting as if there is a standard outside of YOURSELF - a standard that applies to ALL men and not just Y-O-U.
4. So WHY do you think that hurting people is immoral?
5. It also seems to me that YOU just stated that YOU know that there is no standard (while acting like/pretending there is) and implying that YOU know that God does not exist. _Okay, how do you know that?_
6. Give me one example of how humanism is more rational than say... biblical Christianity. (I'm asking for evidence that supports the claim YOU made.)
7. What kind of thing would you consider to be "proof of God"? (Just a couple of examples.)
8. Also, what "proof" can you offer me that shows that naturalism is true/that there is nothing outside of nature? (Again, 3 examples should suffice.)
9. How does the humanist answer the question of origins (universe, life, laws of physics) scientifically?
10. Give me any 3 supposed contradictions in the Bible that YOU personally find compelling.
Ray does not want to debate a real scientist/atheist. The truth would make his eyes melt.
Such silly questions Seth. Obviously all the bad design is because our ancestors ate some magic fruit before we were born.
I have to find that guy's channel. He is funny AF. These guest are funny and entertaining
Did Jerry refer to ontology recapitulating phylogeny? That was thrown out within six years of its introduction.
Ill admit, of the "big 3" YECs, I like Ray the most.
He seems like the nicest of them, and Sincerely Genuine believer (and ill admit, not very educated/smart...)
I'd LOVE to have dinner with him and just ChitChat... He had a GREAT call into AXP with Dillahunty. It was congenial and friendly and he seems like an Honest Interlocutor when confronted with Well Versed opponents....
He seems pretty dishonest to me. Deliberately trying to catch people out all the time and acting like he is really interested.
He is really looking for easily confused people to put in his videos.
I've got it! I figured it out! The reason so many bad things happen in the world is God has OCD! He spends the majority of his time hand-crafting snowflakes! Since It snows almost continuously somewhere on the planet, he only has time between storms to occasionally help someone find their car keys. I feel better now.
Damn, Seth! These were funny guests! Please, have them on again?
That was awesome! I laughed out loud!
Paula G Whyte
How did inorganic material become organic material? If you don't know, then you are just another cult member of the Evolutionary church.
Watcher: That is so ironic you saying that I belong to a cult. Lol. No, I don't know the complete answer, but I'm learning and that's what makes you and I so different. I have an open mind and I love science, you know, the best method for finding out the truth? And we will know how life began. You just plug, "God did it" in when you don't know the answer and join a church when you don't have a clue like most sheep.
Why are we giving him an Australian accent he's from new Zealand
You guys are frickin hilarious! Keep it up :)
gawd i could only watch a couple of mins before my brain started to seep out my ears
Haha loved it, you really fit into the dynamic of these guys as the conductor, a lovely lively review :D
I always looked at the "Chicken & the Egg" problem with an assumption, that they are referring to the chicken egg and not just a generic egg.
The answer of course is the chicken, because the egg that the chicken hatched from was a "proto-chicken" egg. This means that the chicken did indeed come first.